That’s actually not the worst, just try to turn that into learning to whiff punish on reaction… people tend to be very impatient in this game so you can turn that toxicity into a strength
@@jayythechosen again, a lot of people do that, I do it, especially with Hwo we didn’t have a panic rage art last game. So it’s awesome, but like with b3 try to turn that into a strength on whiff rather than a panic tool that can be reacted to by my dead grandma.
Thanks man, yeah he seems like a good dude n very informative n I maybe would’ve came up with this at some point on my own but it was watching some of his videos that really lit the spark for it so I couldn’t leave that one be.
@@swankygamez69420 naw It’s all good 👍. I just find it funny because in the orange ranks using those moves pushed me up into Garyu. Now I’m realizing my gameplan is too much D3,4. Which makes it easier for my opponent to catch on and make a guess to catch up in damage cause it’s just constant 17 dmg I’m doing.
I actually figured out the flamingo grab on accident maddd long ago and been loving it ever since. It catches ALMOST everyone off guard if you dont flash duck ur toast !
This is really simple advice but you called me out so hard. I couldn’t figure out why I could always win one round or game and then id lose the rest. Trying to be more unpredictable seems obvious but actually trying to do it takes some thought going on autopilot and just throwing stuff out obviously isn’t going to work but we do it anyway. No lie I went on a 5 game win streak after this video
Oh dude Lotus is the homie, hell if a teacher. I've also learned alot from you as well and I definitely wanna improve my own hwoarang gameplay and get my foot into the whole RUclips thing as well because I really enjoy the game and wanna help other players too
Hey swanky, I just wanna say appreciate the Hwo tips you give out, I'm more on the experienced side with Hwo, So this was like a refresher course after taking a long break from T8 💯 29:51 (Funny you mention that approach, I always used that 1 jab along with wavedashing in order to condition them to duck, Then JFSR/ or D34 mixup) Keep up the content man 👍
Thank you I appreciate it. I was just playing some quick matches with Hwo n kept seeing these same moves over n over again n it’s like, are people really letting them get away with this??? N maybe it’s cuz I’m more experienced but I see them n my brain just shuts off cuz I no longer have to think anymore. It’s frustrating. But I’ll take free wins. lol
@@swankygamez69420 Actually, If I may add one more thing to fully complete this vid, When you were mentioning the moves beginner Hwo's do **(4,4,4,4 D4,4 DF3,4 D3,4.)** You may have forgot one major spam move (Or maybe you didn't, I just didn't notice).......1, 1, 3, 3 😂 (I did this so much in T7, It's fun abusing it when the opponent does not have Hwo experience) As for current ME, As soon as I see 1,1~ It's like a macro in my arm, And I have a grin if they finish the string lmao ifykyk)
@@Rome_ForeiignSSE Yeah, but i don't see that one nearly as much... never in those matches but you are correct, come people abuse them like there's any kind of a mix up there... I love doing the 1,1 on it's own but yeah, the whole string's usually a no no
I'm glad you enjoyed it, & I'm glad it helped... keep improving & don't check out my newest video Road to Tekken King... It's so far my best work IMO. If you have time... if you want to learn more join the discord... lots of friendly people practicing n bsing all the time, it's extremely engaging.
just got this game, glad i found this channel, hwoarang was my favorite to play in tekken 3 so i chose him as my main, its funny the 4,4,4,4 string is the first one you learn in practice mode so i figured every new player probably spams it, trying to learn how to really play this character and your channel is helping a lot
Would you be down to answer a few things over a quick gaming session together whenever you’re available ? Would really like to learn a few things about how you make certain decisions
just got to fujin and a big part of it was almost always going for mid mix ups on d3,4 and JSFR helped so much. After heat engage it's a 50;/50 d3,4 or jsfr and you get so much reward with no risk basically
I can do one for sure. That wouldn’t be too hard but I have done combo guides where I’ve went from easy combos n built up to more difficult combos so it’d just be its own separate thing.
You really need to be unpredictable at higher ranks. Everyone knows the matchup, and sidesteps what you think are your dangerous tools. I throw out downforward 4 to train them that sidestepping will get smacked.
That’s decent but just remember that all those options can be beaten by a crouch jab cuz you’re only +2 in RFS. It’s not terrible but it’s not the best either.
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll yes & no, it’s true that all those options can be beat with a crouch jab, but now the true 50/50 comes from either f4, or uf4. Cuz the uf4 will low crush. Main issue there is your taking all those + frames & putting yourself in that situation n all they have to do is block n they can even punish the uf4 if they just stand there. A better option would be ff3, is +6 on block, leaves you in rff, between that & d3,4 where you’re back at rfs like before but if you hit them you’re at +14 rather than just +2 on a blocked hunting hawk, chances are if they block low they’ll go for a low parry either way so it becomes an in interruptible 50/50 where even if you’re blocked it’s still your turn
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll I mean don’t get me wrong… so few Hwoarang players do that, that you could probably get away with it for a while, but once you get into the higher ranks or deal with different opponents that won’t matter n it’s better to knock a… I wouldn’t say bad habit, but am ideal situation either. It might be okay to have that in your back pocket though
it's good that it works in red ranks but if you keep doing and relying on that eventually you'll find it harder to break those bad habits. so keep that in mind
You didn’t see enough there???? I just showed you like,,, 4-5 different things,,, (he says jokingly XD), df4, b3, 1, d3, d4, there’s also 3~4, uf3, f3, f4, but that’s a high but also an 8f start up rather that the 13f jab everyone does. What do you mean??? Like pressure? I have 2 1 hour videos that cover pressure & ideas to learn if that’s what you’re looking for as well
@@swankygamez69420 hahaha i already wrote everything down thts in the video and yea kinda ... like i tried to look up which moves are possible to do for example after d3, 4 and all but couldnt find any like list or so so i wanted to know like for example what strings are good to use and all but i will watch ur other videos too and try to find more thanks alot :D
This video needed to be longer. Gotta sprinkle some knowledge berries about punishment follow up pressure. 1,2 into flamingo. 4,3 into delayed SS+4 etc..
Running 3 leaves you in +6… I got confused cuz the dummy did the move n I looked at the frame data on screen. Cuz it reflected my frame data not the computer’s.
That’s a very good option, especially if you learn the JF version but even without it, mid/mid… only -3 I see no issues with that autopilot or anything.
I'm trying to see speed kick video to start practicing my hwoarang since I haven't touched hem since tekken tag 2 I'm not bad with hem but there is a lot of things I need to learn since I'm tekken king with mu victor so I want to try different characters now being thinking off getting a arcade stick but don't know
@@swankygamez69420 yeah im thinking off getting one but don't know if just the arcade stick or hit box i only play for fun not competitive since i be working and play other games to only reason i do well on this game is cuz of my knowledge of play the game before
I do. If your on pad, swap left trigger or bumper to 1+4 so your trying to produce JFSR with one hand, it’s much easier than trying to do it with both. You will sometimes get Df1 or the occasional Rfs by mistake but it’s a shortcut worth taking.
Every bad string you showed is exactly what i do to my hwoarang. I practiced that 44 move and how to cancel it but that only happens in lab in live match i still do it. God help me
you just have to practice it until you can basically do it in your sleep. But if you're trying it you got this, you're trying to improve so you'll get there
@@swankygamez69420 sure sensei🙏ykw i did try your tips and i did manage to win some matches with just those tips...i felt like yes there is an improvement but I still have a long way to go..
@swankygamez69420 yeah, there's just less mistakes than there are knowledge checks and frame advantages. As a hwo main, it's extra sweaty. People know the match up, and i gotta resort to fundies, if which hwo isn't the best with. But doable. End up playing the keep out game and little pokes, back into neutral. It's a big change lol as i was climbing i could flow chart quite a bit, but have dialed back on that a heck of a lot, just to compete with them. Having fun, at the expense of some hair loss 😂
I like 44F, but I feel like it should be +frames instead of being minus 2 frames (irrc) since you're going into flamingo.ive been jabbed out of stance so many times by mashers before i can even do a jab after .lol
I didn’t mean to necessarily talk that long but I’d rather help newer players UNDERSTAND what I’m talking about n not just tell them the dos & don’ts. Plus you can always skip it. I plan to remake all my videos so they’re cleaner, shorter, & overall easier to follow. I do appreciate the feedback n hope to do these videos better Justice in the future
I feel like a dck. You put it in a shit ton of effort to make this video and i want you to know that i 100% recognize. Yeah to be more constructive. Just make the video flow from topic to topic smoothly. Or allow the viewer to “skip ahead” by letting us know like: “For those more advanced, skip to xyz, otherwise feel free to listen to the following.” This makes us feel like we have a choice rather than waiting to find out if what you’re about to say is “the important part” or if its coming later .””
my toxic trait is random b3
That’s actually not the worst, just try to turn that into learning to whiff punish on reaction… people tend to be very impatient in this game so you can turn that toxicity into a strength
My toxic trait is panic rage art at the end of a round lol
@@Humanwall123 lol, a lot of people do that
Bro same
@@jayythechosen again, a lot of people do that, I do it, especially with Hwo we didn’t have a panic rage art last game. So it’s awesome, but like with b3 try to turn that into a strength on whiff rather than a panic tool that can be reacted to by my dead grandma.
Skip the first 7 minutes
Thx 😂❤
Bro is a talker What the
Thank you for that😅
Lotus is AMAZING, and the fact you give him that much credit, but stay humble and caring still is awesome. Exactly what youtubers should be doing
Thanks man, yeah he seems like a good dude n very informative n I maybe would’ve came up with this at some point on my own but it was watching some of his videos that really lit the spark for it so I couldn’t leave that one be.
I felt so exposed when you called out the 5 moves I use the most.. It's like my hwoarang exodia deck fell all over the table.
sorry, they're bad habits... you gotta fix it before it's too late, especially if you want to improve.
@@swankygamez69420 naw It’s all good 👍. I just find it funny because in the orange ranks using those moves pushed me up into Garyu. Now I’m realizing my gameplan is too much D3,4. Which makes it easier for my opponent to catch on and make a guess to catch up in damage cause it’s just constant 17 dmg I’m doing.
@@Dyetai fair enough
I actually figured out the flamingo grab on accident maddd long ago and been loving it ever since. It catches ALMOST everyone off guard if you dont flash duck ur toast !
@@Ghvst__ yeah cuz no one expects it let alone knows how to deal with it when you throw it out, out of nowhere.
This is really simple advice but you called me out so hard. I couldn’t figure out why I could always win one round or game and then id lose the rest. Trying to be more unpredictable seems obvious but actually trying to do it takes some thought going on autopilot and just throwing stuff out obviously isn’t going to work but we do it anyway. No lie I went on a 5 game win streak after this video
@@Blood-Talon nice
Oh dude Lotus is the homie, hell if a teacher. I've also learned alot from you as well and I definitely wanna improve my own hwoarang gameplay and get my foot into the whole RUclips thing as well because I really enjoy the game and wanna help other players too
Never too late to try it out
Hey swanky, I just wanna say appreciate the Hwo tips you give out, I'm more on the experienced side with Hwo, So this was like a refresher course after taking a long break from T8 💯
29:51 (Funny you mention that approach, I always used that 1 jab along with wavedashing in order to condition them to duck, Then JFSR/ or D34 mixup) Keep up the content man 👍
Thank you I appreciate it. I was just playing some quick matches with Hwo n kept seeing these same moves over n over again n it’s like, are people really letting them get away with this??? N maybe it’s cuz I’m more experienced but I see them n my brain just shuts off cuz I no longer have to think anymore. It’s frustrating. But I’ll take free wins. lol
@@swankygamez69420 Actually, If I may add one more thing to fully complete this vid, When you were mentioning the moves beginner Hwo's do **(4,4,4,4 D4,4
DF3,4 D3,4.)**
You may have forgot one major spam move (Or maybe you didn't, I just didn't notice).......1, 1, 3, 3 😂
(I did this so much in T7, It's fun abusing it when the opponent does not have Hwo experience) As for current ME, As soon as I see 1,1~ It's like a macro in my arm, And I have a grin if they finish the string lmao ifykyk)
@@Rome_ForeiignSSE Yeah, but i don't see that one nearly as much... never in those matches but you are correct, come people abuse them like there's any kind of a mix up there... I love doing the 1,1 on it's own but yeah, the whole string's usually a no no
Great PSA. The Tekken Community needs the fear of Hwoarang instilled in them.
Always
thanks man, best video about hwoarang seen so far
@@no_yane appreciate the props. Working on a full break down for him to come out soon
Bro, I just found your channel and this is awesome and so informative. Thank you for the work you put into this!
I'm glad you enjoyed it, & I'm glad it helped... keep improving & don't check out my newest video Road to Tekken King... It's so far my best work IMO. If you have time... if you want to learn more join the discord... lots of friendly people practicing n bsing all the time, it's extremely engaging.
just got this game, glad i found this channel, hwoarang was my favorite to play in tekken 3 so i chose him as my main, its funny the 4,4,4,4 string is the first one you learn in practice mode so i figured every new player probably spams it, trying to learn how to really play this character and your channel is helping a lot
Glad to hear that. I’m kind of slowed down ATM but I will be posting more tutorials soon
Would you be down to answer a few things over a quick gaming session together whenever you’re available ? Would really like to learn a few things about how you make certain decisions
Yeah let’s make it happen
@@swankygamez69420 p s.n: Supahotfiiire. I’ll be on later tonight (est) if you’re available. Otherwise any other day can be scheduled
just got to fujin and a big part of it was almost always going for mid mix ups on d3,4 and JSFR helped so much. After heat engage it's a 50;/50 d3,4 or jsfr and you get so much reward with no risk basically
Thanks for the confirmation,,, HEAR THAT EVERYONE??? The stuff works, it really works!!! lol, jokes aside thanks. Keep it up
What do you mean my doing a mid after d34? What do you use?
@@Yalbou 3~4 the flying Eagle is what we’re talking about.
@@swankygamez69420 would RFS u/f + 3 also work?
@@coolername98 yeah probably
Any plans on advanced combo guide? Esp interesting to see someone explaining that Korean combo like "b3-u3-Lfs2-rff3-4-u44-finishers
I can do one for sure. That wouldn’t be too hard but I have done combo guides where I’ve went from easy combos n built up to more difficult combos so it’d just be its own separate thing.
@@swankygamez69420 thx a lot, it's always interesting to watch your guides
@@RaiseYourFlag fair enough,,, I’ll start working on it this weekend.
made it to raijin under 100 hours and you helped me with that
That’s awesome dude. Keep that up. Congrats as well
As a brand new Hworang player, these videos are awesome.
Thanks,,, hope that means these helped
6:25 where video begins yall
@@YourFather1555 you’re a bit late
@@swankygamez69420😹aye your videos really help tho thanks man
@@YourFather1555 I’m glad. They’ve been more refined over time & I’ve learned a lot so hopefully they’re helpful & a bit more to the point.
always practicing TWAHHH but its still hard for me
It took a while for me to get comfortable doing it… Just keep practicing
Yeah you definitely played me that day
You & I both
You really need to be unpredictable at higher ranks. Everyone knows the matchup, and sidesteps what you think are your dangerous tools. I throw out downforward 4 to train them that sidestepping will get smacked.
Yeah that’s really good.
I do uf 3,4 after heat engager and now im plus on block in right flamingo... i either do a f4,4 ch or df 4 ch launch or even d3,3 for the low option.
That’s decent but just remember that all those options can be beaten by a crouch jab cuz you’re only +2 in RFS. It’s not terrible but it’s not the best either.
So your saying its not a true 50/50 because your opponent can option select with down jab? @swankygamez69420
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll yes & no, it’s true that all those options can be beat with a crouch jab, but now the true 50/50 comes from either f4, or uf4. Cuz the uf4 will low crush. Main issue there is your taking all those + frames & putting yourself in that situation n all they have to do is block n they can even punish the uf4 if they just stand there. A better option would be ff3, is +6 on block, leaves you in rff, between that & d3,4 where you’re back at rfs like before but if you hit them you’re at +14 rather than just +2 on a blocked hunting hawk, chances are if they block low they’ll go for a low parry either way so it becomes an in interruptible 50/50 where even if you’re blocked it’s still your turn
@@swankygamez69420 omfg thank you, this is amazing!
@@TheMetalInsideUsAll I mean don’t get me wrong… so few Hwoarang players do that, that you could probably get away with it for a while, but once you get into the higher ranks or deal with different opponents that won’t matter n it’s better to knock a… I wouldn’t say bad habit, but am ideal situation either. It might be okay to have that in your back pocket though
On heat eng. I found good to do is uf 3,4 rf d 4,3,4 it works on red ranks 90%
it's good that it works in red ranks but if you keep doing and relying on that eventually you'll find it harder to break those bad habits. so keep that in mind
geat video thanks alot ... can you show some strings for example what to do after d3, 4 etc or some other strings
You didn’t see enough there???? I just showed you like,,, 4-5 different things,,, (he says jokingly XD), df4, b3, 1, d3, d4, there’s also 3~4, uf3, f3, f4, but that’s a high but also an 8f start up rather that the 13f jab everyone does. What do you mean??? Like pressure? I have 2 1 hour videos that cover pressure & ideas to learn if that’s what you’re looking for as well
@@swankygamez69420 hahaha i already wrote everything down thts in the video and yea kinda ... like i tried to look up which moves are possible to do for example after d3, 4 and all but couldnt find any like list or so so i wanted to know like for example what strings are good to use and all but i will watch ur other videos too and try to find more thanks alot :D
@@EFresh0104 no problem
thank you for your info bro helped me a lot.
Glad it helped
Picked up hwo cuz of you bro, tysm
No problem, welcome to the fun side
This video needed to be longer. Gotta sprinkle some knowledge berries about punishment follow up pressure. 1,2 into flamingo. 4,3 into delayed SS+4 etc..
But none of that was what this video was about, it was about pointing out bad habits n alternatives
@@swankygamez69420 fair point. Guess I was getting excited for your next help vid lol.
@@DevaughnEC03 you’re good, still want ideas for vids
@23:29 am i crazy or did you mean it leaves only you at -6?
Running 3 leaves you in +6… I got confused cuz the dummy did the move n I looked at the frame data on screen. Cuz it reflected my frame data not the computer’s.
rfs into 34 is also a good mid now in this patch. feels like homing and safe, used it a lot. might just be my default autopilot option
That’s a very good option, especially if you learn the JF version but even without it, mid/mid… only -3 I see no issues with that autopilot or anything.
Good stuff 👍🏼
Thank you, really hope this helped you out
I'm trying to see speed kick video to start practicing my hwoarang since I haven't touched hem since tekken tag 2 I'm not bad with hem but there is a lot of things I need to learn since I'm tekken king with mu victor so I want to try different characters now being thinking off getting a arcade stick but don't know
Hey man, whatever you want to do. Hwoarang can be fun, & the stick can be a solid way to start.
@@swankygamez69420 yeah im thinking off getting one but don't know if just the arcade stick or hit box i only play for fun not competitive since i be working and play other games to only reason i do well on this game is cuz of my knowledge of play the game before
Any tips on doing jfsr from LFF?i find that jfsr is much easier to do in rff eventhough the input and timing is the same
You just have to practice unfortunately
I do. If your on pad, swap left trigger or bumper to 1+4 so your trying to produce JFSR with one hand, it’s much easier than trying to do it with both. You will sometimes get Df1 or the occasional Rfs by mistake but it’s a shortcut worth taking.
Most times whn I do D4,4 it’s due to misinpit bcuz Im trying to do DB4🤦🏾♂️
@@Nefelibata95 yeah I used to do it too, it’s a hard habit to break but you gotta do it.
Every bad string you showed is exactly what i do to my hwoarang. I practiced that 44 move and how to cancel it but that only happens in lab in live match i still do it. God help me
you just have to practice it until you can basically do it in your sleep. But if you're trying it you got this, you're trying to improve so you'll get there
@@swankygamez69420 sure sensei🙏ykw i did try your tips and i did manage to win some matches with just those tips...i felt like yes there is an improvement but I still have a long way to go..
@@babayaga9805 I’m glad they worked out
8:51 how are you just continuing the loop like that??
4,4,4f, U+4f, U+4f over & over
@@swankygamez69420 thank you sir!!
@@noiadelamollymop4991 no problem
Swanky what're your staple b3 and jfsr combos?
B3, F4, 3~4, UF3+4f, UF4 then ender which is whatever I feel in the moment, JFSR, Backlash, dash u3, 2, UF3+4F, UF4, Ender.
@@swankygamez69420 Thanks, been trying out a few staples but had trouble choosing a reliable one. Will definitely try these out
@@coolername98 if you need easier ones ask, those ones can be a little tricky until you actually get used to them
@@swankygamez69420 Yeah i'm having trouble hitting the u3 on the jfsr combo, do you have an easier one?
@@coolername98 Backlash into 4,3f? Might work. More forgiving
I need this
@@jsr450 you & many others. It’s here. I should be getting some more vids out soon so keep an eye out & hope the guide helped
Thank you
No problem, really hope this helped
I think i played you or someone who had same skin
@@214325326457 maybe.
The struggle is once you hit gold ranks 😢 will get punished for everything 😅
Not necessarily… you just gotta be smart about how you place everything
@@swankygamez69420 tell that to the gids if destruction lmao. Stressful
@@josephchase9609 I watch GODs, get away with mistakes a lot… I’m sure it’s stressful as hell but by then they should just be having fun
@swankygamez69420 yeah, there's just less mistakes than there are knowledge checks and frame advantages. As a hwo main, it's extra sweaty. People know the match up, and i gotta resort to fundies, if which hwo isn't the best with. But doable. End up playing the keep out game and little pokes, back into neutral.
It's a big change lol as i was climbing i could flow chart quite a bit, but have dialed back on that a heck of a lot, just to compete with them.
Having fun, at the expense of some hair loss 😂
@@josephchase9609 lol
i can't play rn but i started a coaching career that no one bought i had useful lessons no one knows about i can text my teachings but i'm poor
I like 44F, but I feel like it should be +frames instead of being minus 2 frames (irrc) since you're going into flamingo.ive been jabbed out of stance so many times by mashers before i can even do a jab after .lol
That’s why you have to create the mix up,,, plus when you’re at -2 you have access to f4 which is an 8f start up
@@swankygamez69420 true but it's highs . It's ducked sometimes . And easier dick jabbed lol
Bro you talked for 7mins STRAIGHT 🥲.
Shorter videos and I’ll subscribe due to effort
I didn’t mean to necessarily talk that long but I’d rather help newer players UNDERSTAND what I’m talking about n not just tell them the dos & don’ts. Plus you can always skip it. I plan to remake all my videos so they’re cleaner, shorter, & overall easier to follow. I do appreciate the feedback n hope to do these videos better Justice in the future
I feel like a dck. You put it in a shit ton of effort to make this video and i want you to know that i 100% recognize.
Yeah to be more constructive. Just make the video flow from topic to topic smoothly.
Or allow the viewer to “skip ahead” by letting us know like:
“For those more advanced, skip to xyz, otherwise feel free to listen to the following.”
This makes us feel like we have a choice rather than waiting to find out if what you’re about to say is “the important part” or if its coming later .””
@@HabibiC fair enough
5 min intro bruh.
You can skip it it’s like the first time stamp you can skip