The fact that everyone only speaks their own native language yet they can all understand each other is one of my favorite aspects to this franchise I just always thought it was really cool
also crazy to think kids born mostly in the 2010's and going forward will probably never get to experience games like this when they were in the arcade all pixelated, putting a quarter in the machine to continue all that
@@JemuzuDatsWhoConsidering how Lili's been pretty consistent about how she doesn't want news of her fighting to get to her father, he must be a swell guy. Though I do wonder how it's managed to stay secret considering how Tekken 8's been 😆
Love that in the final battle, Kazuya keeps changing forms to become more powerful, going full anime. And Heihachi's answer to every power up is "More Heihachi".
Honestly, i think Heihachi's death would have been more believable and less memey if the real way to kill Heihachi for good was by giving him a proper burial in peace, next to Kazumi's grave.
I find this the perfect opportunity to remind people that Akuma is/was a fruit vendor. Strictly speaking, he is not an evil person. Yes, he's killed a few people, but it should be said that they were incredibly strong and barring his master, he's killed pretty much only bad guys. And his master was glad to die at his hands. He does not oppress, let alone kill, anyone weaker than him -- in fact he will defend them sometimes -- and he backed out of a fight with Gen once he realized he was ill. He fought Oro and they both realized they were evenly matched and if they took the fight seriously, they would more than likely have killed each other, so they stopped. He's probably the best example of a morally gray character that is infamous for using evil powers, literally called "evil intent," and even spouts some edgy one-liners sometimes... without actually doing anything inherently evil.
To be fair Kazuya did tried to kill him but that was Hechi fault , he should have just apologized for killing Kazuya mother and try to explain things to him.
Armor King having a long hidden brother that replaces him in Tekken 6 is the perfect combination of pro wrestling and Mexican telenovela schlock I wonder if it was intentional
You can see stuff like "Hey, let's throw a bear/Kangeroo/raptor in and just attach it to someone, something, somehow." Or "wouldn't going forward in time be really cool?" But then still have Ganryu chase after the fighter with Michelle's moves (her daughter...coincidence? Lei arrests him for perversion!), Tradition (Kazuya and Jin constantly taking over corporations and end up being evil...mostly), even though it's just kinda humourous they all hate their father, so why mimic them? Anna seems like more of the innocent sister after all, and I grew up thinking she was the evil one that was with evil Kazuya and fucked with her sister's memories. I didn't know Heihachi also raised Panda and rewarded Xiaoyu, I thought she had beef with him based on her ending! Panda thinks she is too old for Kuma?? That's it?? That's hilarious. Jun only met Kazuya because he created had Dr B create Rojer. Lol
Honestly as a writer I love writing stories like this. It starts off completely incoherent with a bunch of borderline incomprehensible plots happening at the same time. But as things go on you seamlessly transition into a heartwrenching and epic tale that leaves a genuine impact on the reader.
It's all so stupid and meaninglessly random that there is no point to get invested into any of it though. I'd rather a hero story where the writers don't constantly just make shit up like crappy fan fiction. Anything "works" if you don't care about consistency/quality. It's amusingly random and dark sometimes, I'll give it that.
@@kelp7060 I mean you're asking to find a meaningful storyline in a fighting game series. I thought it was kind of obvious it wouldn't be the most thought-provoking and emotionally intelligent work. The focus isn't the story, the story is just to justify the character roster and gameplay is the most important part of a fighting game.
As far as I can tell, Tekken's entire story is Kazuya and Heihachi taking turns throwing each other off a cliff while yelling "I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT."
TO BE FAIR* TO HEIHACHI: Tekken 7 revealed he knew Kazuya had a cursed bloodline from his mother’s side and was basically trying to be the “genre savvy” dad in the horror movie that makes the difficult choice* of killing his demonically possessed child before they can become a problem. Unfortunately for him, even as a child, Kazuya was just THAT tough plus his dormant Devil Gene was enough to help him survive.
The asterisks are because Heihachi is still definitely 100% an asshole, and it’s saying something when you can STILL be the “asshole they love to hate” when you’re trying to end a demonic curse before it ruins the world
This.. We've had the bs "misunderstood" anti-hero plot lines beat over our head since the early 2000s. Tekken was having none of that. Some people are just evil, no explanation needed.
@@yoursonisold8743 the way jin was handled in t6 towards the end pisses me off, i didn't mind his heel turn as much as i did for the fact that they tried to justify his actions.
"No one in the Mishima bloodline is untainted by evil. No matter how good someone seems, there's monstrosity lurking beneath the surface. Also...two kangaroos are married and the father cheats on the wife and she leaves him for a genetically engineered velociraptor who becomes a stepfather to his son."
@@irvinalexanderflores "For now" it's not like he's gonna turn evil or pull a Jin/Kazuya/Heihachi besides Lars has Alisa to keep him on the good guys. He also has a strong sense of justice.
They kinda cheat a bit with King by using actual wrestling priest Fray Tormenta's backstory for him. Heck even King Jr.'s whole background is basically the same as Fray Tormenta Jr., who really was an orphan inspired by the original (said backstory was also fictitiously given to Lucha star Mistico).
@@MrNITROPSYCHO Well he said something about Heihachi's return at the end of the Mortal Kombat vid. I ain't played the new story mode yet, so no spoilers please (ain't even played the original story mode yet either), but I'm just pissed off that Kazuya's biggest achievement just became undone!
I'm assuming they were able to use him since they never made Tekken vs street fighter but Capcom made street fighter x tekken... so they used Akuma and called it even
Has anyone noticed the subtle story telling of the character designs? Specifically with Jin and Kazuya’s devil forms. Kazuya is a villain, he’s always been a villain, the only time he aligns with good is when he’s trying to kill a family member. So his devil form has bat wings. Jin meanwhile is generally good aligned, but willing to do immense evil if it means saving the world. So his wings are feathered. Kazuya is a devil and nothing more, while Jin is a fallen angel.
@@The_Acolyte she had a good intent, but this intent is slowly corrupting her into spitting words that she might gonna regret in the end(like saying Heihachi should never marry that woman in the first place), and she had more direct inspiration to theatrical art of Kabuki, so the wings were like spitting flames all around
The cursed sword is also called Yoshimitsu, what if the sword is instigating its wielder to sign it up to the tournament? Then, the real participant is the sword, and the sword is not using a weapon, it's using the fists of its wielder.
Jun/Kazuya’s relationship was basically- Jun: “I can fix him” **one pregnancy and years later** Jin: “Did you fix him?” Jun: “….don’t get involved with your father or the Mishimas.” 2024 Update Jin: "I got involved with my father and the Mishimas." Jun: "And what did we learn?" Jin: "...don't get involved with father and the Mishimas." Jun: "Mmhmm, eat your peas."
@@TheHuskyK9 I just watch the latest Tekken anime and I didn’t see any instance where Jun told Jin to stay away from the Mishimas prior to Ogre. Granted she didn’t talk about Kazuya, but I didn’t see her actively telling him to stay away from them
I mean right after they had seggs and she probably doesn’t even know she’s pregnant yet kazuma got thrown into the lava and wake up all the way after the ogre arc where jun disappears So she never really had the chance to do “I can fix him”
Fun lesser known fact. Tekken 5.0 arcade version before the console release was released with heihachi locked away in the game with no signs of his character existing. This made us arcade players thinking he really was dead. Then months later he was time released and shocked everybody. But the console was released months after that.
@@KaitouKaiju They did something just as sneaky in apex legends where they faked a whole character and "Accidentally" left him in the files before the new season came out only for the reveal trailer to kill him off and actually reveal the character
Dude survives explosions, being thrown through the air, getting lasered by the devil and he catches bullets with his teeth. If there's one thing in this series that indestructible, it's Heihachi. He was cursed by baldness but blessed by sheer plot armor.
At around 14:45. I played Tekken 1 EXTENSIVELY with my friends. And this is the first time I realized that King's orphans that he takes care of in Mexico are 1) Japanese and 2) they're actually adults wearing office attire. Tekken is wild
Kazuya smiling after throwing his old man off a cliff is both hilarious but also terrifying. He just murdered a person and became the head of his father's crime empire. Yet he doesn't do a maniacal laugh or even greave the only father he knew. He just smiles. Coldly looking into the distance before smiling. If the animation didn't look so Bowling Alley, that scene could have been a lot more terrifying than goofy.
I think the one in Tekken 7 is perfect too, he's been saving up one of Heihachi's quote and used it against him while showing a cold, collected face after throwing his father off a cliff the second time.
@@junilog that game also had one of the most heart wrenching prologue fights in gaming history in my opinion especially the end because it actually prompts you, the player, to infamously throw Kazuya off the goddamn cliff
I used to love Lei Wulong since he was basically Jackie Chan, but learning how he actually impacts the lore makes me like him more. He is never the focus or protagonist or considered one of the strongest fighters, but his investigation skills reveals info that changes other characters’ motivations and even takes down important organizations. He’s pretty underrated to the story and probably impacts it more than more important characters.
@@HOTD108_ a sneakerhead is this: a person who likes sense of fashion among shoes or style of shoes therefore he collects those particular shoes or a Style of shoes. The other word of shoes are sneakers, therefore we are called sneakerheads
14:58 I've been playing Tekken for so long since I was 4 years old that the fact King is 100% a human man but only speaks in jaguar sounds completely went over my head and I never truly thought about it until now lmfao this franchise really is insane I love it
@@deanchstr i started on Tekken 2 and the intro cutscene that plays showed King stumbling around drunk in an alley then cuts to Armor King throwing his mask on the ground which is when I realized he was a just a dude wearing a mask lol. still i never questioned why he never talked 😂
As a Hwoarang main, I was really happy seeing him reject the Devil Gene. Man has the makings of being a future Heihachi but with a cleaner moral compass.
Fun fact: not only does Heihachi land in a grave after the Honmaru explosion, he lands literally in the Mishima Family Grave. The tombstone says 三島家之基 which roughly translates to „Mishima family foundation stone“
Adopt the Lee Chaolan grindset: - take care of your body and mind - be kind and respectful to women - work for your success the hard way - say excellent...A LOT, while throwing out singular roses - be adopted into a very screwed family that literally caused a world war and never get mentioned as part of the family so youre always not involved with the global chaos they are causing (optional step for added motivation)
If I had to guess, all of the reverence shown, and retcons made to Heihachi's backstory are due to the longest running voice actor for the character passing away in 2010 between games. So they wanted to send off the character properly. Which unfortunately seemed to have turned into a double send off, as the replacement voice actor also passed away 3 years after the release of Tekken 7.
@@bestdadakasongoku4157 Don't feel too bad, after the release, the initial marketing got completely over shadowed by all of the additional guest characters and DLC. I didn't even know that the second Heihachi VA passed until I relooked up the info about the first, after watching this video. T7 came out back in 2015, and a lot has happened between then and now. So I don't blame you at all. lol
I pretty much knew the 2nd Heihachi VA passing away since that man also voiced Old Joseph Joestar but I didn't even know he was a replacement of a previous Heihachi VA, thought he was the same all throughout even though I started playing the series in Tekken 5.
The rabbit hole goes deep. Can't wait for him to do Xevious, that arcade game where you're a ship that shoots and drops bombs and has no plot, which has an untranslated japanese novel of lore.
15:15 Not only does having each character speak their own language make for incredible cutscenes, it has to save Bamco a TON of money on localization. No need to have voice actors for the whole cast in a half dozen different voice languages, just get the one VA for the character's "native language" and you're golden.
@@Killgore-ip2yqthen there's Lidia. She's well made but why? Why make a polish character a prime minister, where politicians are most hated social group. And fighting karate of all things. Why.
I'm an American, and If I were a videogame character, I would want to speak Japanese in the Japanese release (because it's such a beautiful language). And every other language in every other regional release. Honestly, it's a huge pet peeve of mine when games do as you described. (Punch-Out!! Wii being a notable exception.)
I mean at the end of the day that's his child deep down inside. It's like how he shred a tear when he killed his wife even after finding out their entire relationship was essentially a lie
I think you're confusing him with Heihachi? Unless there's number symbolism here that I'm missing, in which case do correct me. For some oversimplified context: Mishima = 三島 = "three" + "island" Jinpachi = 仁八 = "humanity/virtue" + "eight" Heihachi = 平八 = "peace" + "eight" [I assume this is what you meant?] Kazuya = 一八 = "one" + "eight" Hachijou = 八条 = "eight" + "article/clause" Kazumi = 一美 = "one" + "beauty" Kazama = 風間 = "wind" + "interval" Jun = 準 = "to correspond/to be proportionate [to something]" Jin = 仁 = "humanity/virtue" I guess the main takeaways from all this are that Tekken 8 is going to be epic, and that Heihachi's lack of imagination when it comes to names precedes the Kumas and Panda, because "Kazuya" is just a mashup of "Kazumi" and "Heihachi". ...And also that Kazuya had likely talked with Jun about his family life prior to being thrown into lava, seeing as Jin was clearly named after Kazuya's beloved grandpa.
@@phytohormones Bruh I never realized that Jin name is literally the first kanji from Jinpachi's name. Really shows how Kazuya really loves his grandpa. Also I kinda hope one of the new character will be from Hachijo clan but that might just extend the story even more huh.
@@phytohormones Actually Kazuya DOES mean *peace* FYI: It's similar to the character 'Kazuhira' Miller whose first name also means peace.... It's actually a plot theme in MGS Peace Walker where he and another character 'Paz' have a discussion about their names mean *Peace* ✌🏾. But yeah Kaz's name means peace, I remember hearing it from a dev discussing the name when back when Tekken 4 / 5 came out. Also, just Google the name Kazuya, and it's literally the first result showing the name meaning peace
@@curtisjackson4090 I looked it up, and while you're right (thank you, I genuinely didn't know!), it's a little more interesting than that. "Kazu", written with the kanji "和" instead of "一" (any applicable kanji may be used for the "ya" part, it's the first one that is relevant), can indeed mean "peace". "和" on its own actually just means "harmony", but when combined with "平" into "平和" (= "heiwa"), it results in the standard, commonly used, normal word for "peace"; the association between the two kanji is quite strong. Kazuhira Miller's first name is written only in katakana, as "カズヒラ", but this "peaceful" meaning is still implied; I'm therefore assuming (I don't actually know for sure, unfortunately) that the usage of the "和" kanji is common in "Kazu" names and a Japanese person will infer this meaning even with a different kanji. This gets me to my point: "和" is notably NOT the kanji Kazuya's (and Kazumi's) name uses; he just has the number "one". He is pointedly and intentionally not "peaceful", despite being given the opportunity to be. It gets better: as I wrote above, Heihachi's name IS, ironically, written with a "peaceful" kanji (平), the first one in the normal word for "peace" (平和). If Kazuya's name were written with that second kanji (和), as "Kazu" names often are, the father-son duo's names would, combined, mean "peace"... and, perhaps, they would be a peaceful family...? But it isn't, and they aren't. And so, they are instead the dysfunctional mess we all know and love.
William Afton: I always come back heihachi: I always comed back before you were always coming back! William Afton: Wait... Did you kill kids? Heihachi: attempted to, yes William Afton: wanna be murder buddies? heihachi: HELL YEAH both: WE ALWAYS COME BACK
Can't believe you never picked up King's real life inspiration of Fray Tormenta ("brother tempest") the actual wrestling priest who ran an orphanage and who, both IRL and Kayfabe, would inspire some of his orphans to become pro wrestlers as well. He's actually still alive and occasionally performs mass wearing his old Lucha mask.😁
At least in the world of Tekken you can be assured that when you become a villain, the hero that defeats you will live long enough to become a villain as well…
Fun Fact: Said by Harada himself, the Tekken Tag Tournament Games are actually apart of Ganryu's Imagination, so even though the Tag Games aren't fully canon, they're just apart of Ganryu's Imagination and he knows something about Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya.
i've heard that the creator of tekken used imperial japan as his inspiration for hiehachi. that is why he's power obsessed and ruthless. after the war, parent's were extremely hard on their children, using these experiences he created the michima blood feud as a representation for the growth of japan, hiehachi representing before and during wartime japan, kazuya being the in between. and jin being the rep for modern japan and how much it has changed over the past 70 years.
Dude, make so much sense actually, I was thinking this while at Tekken 7 Heihachi it's simple UN-KILL-ABLE and how much that remember me from the vision that Japan has from Nobunaga, being 3 main characters in a dynamic of the story, representing exactly Oda and his successors, being the second the most ruthless and violent above them and the last one, Tokugawa, like Jin, though have done terrible things in war, being the hero that's the unifier and pacifier of Japan, starter of the new peaceful era that last for 200 years!
I love that Akuma is basically like “you were all a bunch of weak bitches so I waited until you weren’t” then proceeds to body both main characters (but not really) and then come back again and try it against an even stronger Kaz. He’s just the biggest ass
In any other game it’d be a lousy way to cover a plot hole. In Tekken, with all the insane motivations and Akuma being Akuma and not honoring a promise 100% to ‘save the world from Heiachi’, just to fight and kill them, it fits perfectly.
Ascended Heihachi is now my favorite character lorewise. No superpowers, special devil genes or murderous intent with magic fireball martial arts. Just yells, rips his shirt halfway and maximizes old man strength lmao
What made Heihachi's so damn unkillable, is that Jinpachi trained him to be so stubborn that even in the face of death he just "nuh uh" out of everything. Just to prove them wrong.
To be fair he collapsed to his knee due to using the form and was left vulnerable to Base Kazuya. Seemed like he overdid it and his body paid the price
@@newhybrid101point is he outlasted Kazuya. If it werent for the devil gene, Kaz would be long gone. Hei really tanked full powered lasers that can destroy satellites, and beat the devil out of Kazuya forcing him to win in his base form lmao
About Jun Kazama, Harada confirmed that she wasn't killed. He said that she went missing. So hopefully she'll come back in tekken 8 as she's also a main part of the story. It's insane that she's actually supposed to be in tekken 3 and 4. Edit: Oh boy. I'm so glad that I was right. Welcome back Jun! Edit 2: Well, looks like Heihachi is... ALIVE!
Jun is better off dead. She sits back and watches Jin go through everything? Watches a war between Jin and Kazuya? Then she comes back? Better off without her
Just to correct you on one point, it wasn't that Anna ''couldn't live without Nina'' as to why she volunteered for cryosleep, it was because she was envious that Nina would remain a smoking hot blonde babe whilst she (Anna) would be a greying old lady. Its also kind of funny that you said that Anna stopped Nina from getting a gangbang in her Tekken 3 ending and that was her revenge, when in the original Japanese version Nina actually rips Anna's bra off! Nina during this time was absolutely the bigger bully.
I’ve watched so many tekken lore videos and as a massive lifelong fan myself, I’ve never found one that covered all the characters so well until this one! I loved how much detail you went into for each character! However I don’t know if it was mentioned that Xiaoyu’s ending in tekken 4 I believe is canon as she started her search for Jin resulting in her ultimately ending up being taken by Claudio which was teased in Tekken 7. Hopefully he becomes a big villain in 8 and Jin and Xiaoyu can reunite
@@adiksaff loved her role in Blood Vengeance! I’m really hoping her and Hwoarang get to play bigger roles in Jin’s squad moving forward in the series, Asuka too!
Tekken 8: After his death, Heihachi’s soul looks for someone worthy of his mighty power, and binds to Jin’s body, making him evil again while also making him stronger than ever Tekken 9: Dr Newcharacter finds a sciencey way to destroy the Heihachi part of Jin. This fails, and Heihachi and Jin are split into two, with Heihachi receiving a magically younger body Tekken X: Turns out Dr. Newcharacter had been working for Heihachi this whole time, and split him from Jin on purpose. For this loyalty, Heihachi kills Dr. Newcharacter, leaving Dr. Newcharacter Jr. in charge. Tekken (reboot): Heihachi’s actually a good guy now. Tekken II (after fan backlash): In a shocking twist, actually he was evil the whole time!
Fun fact: The reason all the fighters can understand each other, is because they all were given a translator ear piece device that helps translate the language being spoken to their own.
@@AlexThat200 canonicaly, Kuma knows Japanese, so maybe there is some way to translate they're speech. Mokujin and Panda never really talk actually, I personally don't remember a scene that is canonical where they actually talk. correct me if I'm wrong
@@thatdudefromthehood2960 I can't remember for Panda all too well, but I know they do talk in their rival cutscene in Tekken 5, and ending in Tekken Tag 2. For Mokujin, the only time they've actually talked is actually the same case for Panda in Tekken 5 where they talk in their rival cutscene. And Mokujin talks in way that sounds like knocking wood.
The lore for fighting games is usually why I love these franchises. I love street fighter mainly for the characters. I’ve played them and liked them but I absolutely suck at them but I still can’t wait to see SF6 and Tekken 8.
Damn! An entire video going through an entire fighting game franchise and its story and lore. Wonder if other fighting game franchises will get talked about in this style?
I like to think that Paul actually did leave early for his fight against Heihachi in Tekken 2 to make sure he wouldn't miss it, but instead he ended up meeting the fate he tried to avoid. Dude had bad luck since the beginning that only got worse as time went on.
I literally just bought Tekken 6 for the ps3 from a thrift shop on a whim and watched this vid to get caught up on the story. It is currently 1 am and i am cheering silently at the screen. Thank you so much for introducing me to this franchise.
That reason doesn't work anymore because of Tekken Bloonlines existing, which prominently features Heihachi. He's gonna come no matter what because he is the poster guy/most popular character. If anything, I'd like to see if they actually change something about him time instead in JUST coming back(like being a robot now or something....and his name is Jackhachi since it would obviously be based of Jack tech and Hachi is 8 in Japanese.)
It’s funny that “Heihachi’s dad is here” isn’t even the most insane part at all. It’s even funnier when you consider that everyone’s just like “yeah no that’s just how it is”
After a year, I’m still thinking you rocked the internet with this video. What a piece of hard work (thank you) for this incredible saga. Again, thank you ❤️👏🏻
I’d love to see a redemption arc for Paul Phoenix in t8 where he turns serious again and trains hard to actually finish off and win the tournament. Paul as the main protagonist would be cool af.
Paul does need to become a serious character again!!! I really hated how he became a comic relief in the later games. Also, Forrest Law needs to make a return in the main games.
I'm glad that TEKKEN Bloodlines, as slightly odd as it might be, made justice for Paul for the first time since Tekken 4 (AND also had something for King II's backstory). Spoilers below for the series but... At the same time though, I was a bit bummed that Paul didn't get to really fight Ogre as it was implied in his T4's intro (he attacked True Ogre but ineffectively), but I know that was from how it wanted Jin to be the spotlight (and Paul being defeated by King), but at least it was the most respectful representation of him since a long while (and even though this didn't affect much in the story, they did say he was the only one comparable in fighting Kazuya, only defeated by his devil gene but otherwise considered a monster)
So many of these lore type videos don't take the time to actually structure the video to the audio... Thank you so much for taking the time to actually make it fun to watch!
@@iamspikefire It's a big story spoiler, but... Jin uses his Kazama powers of purification (along with his mom's, who communicates and helps him through visions) to purify the Devil Gene inside himself, becoming Angel Jin.
Yeah... sadly I think we won't see Heihachi back in full glory ever again. His exodus from the series and final death in 7 were the result of his actual seiyu (jp voice actor) dying. Harada sent the character off rather than replace the actor as a sign of respect, iirc.
I like to think Devil defeating Angel was a metaphor. The devil gene killed what good was left in Kazuya. Now he's 100% bad man with control over his devil powers.
Judging from your other videos, I don’t know what drove you to do a 2 hour deep dive into the lore of Tekken but I’m so grateful that you did. This franchise desperately needed one of these videos and I’m glad we finally have one that explores everything that’s canon and disregards everything that isn’t and explains every nook and cranny the series had the offer. Seriously, thank you. Now I only wish you’d do the same for that other very confusing franchise called Street Fighter haha.
I absolutely love your video! I just Platinum Tekken 8 on PS5 and I've re-watched your video every couple of times I love the content the story and I always get something out of watching your video even though it's long, thank you honestly❤
Azazel was a lot easier once I realised you needed a fast 3-hit string to break his armor. Jinpachi, however, just destroyed you whenever he wanted. At any point he could decide to stomp the ground, which was instant, unblockable, would freeze you and give him a free fireball, taking like a third of your health bar. and he wasn't above doing it 3 times in a row...
Jinpachi was a bastard, but you can get used to him and destroy him after going through the arcade mode a couple times. Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection Jinpachi tho it's just cheap AI given form
man i really love that clip from the t2 intro where king is stumbling around in an alley, armor king turns up, and throws his mask at his feet. no dialogue but you instantly understand what's happening (also a great character moment, having armor king just be like "get your shit together" and not letting his friend destroy himself)
i just love the whole insane lore of tekken, i love that there is such goofyness along with the absolute badassness i think we should all give a big thanks to this series for the years and years of entertainment it has given all of us
Something that may be important to note: There's no confirmation of Jun's death. Ogre shows up, she disappears, but she's never mentioned again. It's possible she ran away and is in hiding, or is chained up in an aztec temple, or some other thing so she can be used as a plot device in Tekken 8
It has crazy comedic elements but has a serious storyline with the Mishimas, and a number of the other fighters. I don't know any other videogame that combines such contrasting elements as well as Tekken and that is why it is my favorite fighting game of all time.
*Tekken 4* is the black sheep but definitely my favorite one, the first Tekken I played. The atmosphere, serious tone, music and story were all amazing.
shame none of his videos will ever see these numbers again mostly thanks to youtube. His newest videos been out for almost 2 weeks and RUclips never told me
Dude this is great. I would love to see this become an ongoing series where you tackle the confusing lore of famous fighting game franchises. Like I think it would be interesting to see you cover Street fighter and all of the bizarre characters and things that were introduced outside of the core cast as the plot went on. Other franchises like mortal Kombat and Guilty Gear would probably be good for some humor as well.
Oh god... how about the SNKverse? That'd be one HELL of a doozy, especially with King of Fighters splitting off from the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting timeline into its own continuity.
@@maliciousbugman I don't think I could ever ask someone, in good faith at least, to do that to themselves. That would take so much effort. Anyway, Thorgi's Arcade already made that Noble sacrifice and it took them four videos and a metric butt ton of work to do it. And that was just for the history of the king of fighters. If they had Incorporated fatal fury, the art of fighting, samurai showdown, and all the other franchises it would have taken them months. Well more months than it already did.
So Heihachi threw Kazuya off the cliff because he believed that if he survived, then he must have the Devil Gene. But when Kazuya threw Heihachi off the cliff, he also survived. Heihachi doesn't have the Devil Gene, he's just THE DEVIL.
@@Juju2927 i strongly disagree; "hes HIM" goes wayyy harder than "hes built different" i.e. if i said "hes built different" instead, it would have been a missed opportunity to say "hes HIM", imo (nothing personal)
Who else back here now that Heihachi was announced to return? My man had his perfect, emotional sendoff And now they bring him back... they really don't care, it's insulting
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“You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself a villain.”
Kazuya Mishima: “Why wait?”
Yeah that seems about right.
that's good 😂
Don’t forget about Jin.
I mean, had he died when his father first threw him off a cliff he would have died a hero...
@@boitata2617but that didn’t happen so why are we talking about it
The fact that everyone only speaks their own native language yet they can all understand each other is one of my favorite aspects to this franchise I just always thought it was really cool
They could see the subs lol
They read the subtitles
Someone even did a comic about it:
ruclips.net/video/k3SeEwVDazI/видео.html
In my mind everyone in the series is multilingual
it’s like a Sergio Leone movie
It's crazy to think that the boxing kangaroo and velociraptor have the most realistic storyline at the end.
😂😂
They also indirectly made Jin Kazama
😂😂😂
also crazy to think kids born mostly in the 2010's and going forward will probably never get to experience games like this when they were in the arcade all pixelated, putting a quarter in the machine to continue all that
@@b1bbscraz3yTruth! And the community that came with it. Seeing the guys and your rivals again and again.
I have now learned that tekken is a game franchise where the only respectable father figure is a dinosaur
Don't forget Marshal Law. The only thing he was bad at was keeping his business afloat.
Lili's dad is (probably) not terrible either!
He's not the step-raptor, he's the raptor that stepped up!
Hahaha ~
@@JemuzuDatsWhoConsidering how Lili's been pretty consistent about how she doesn't want news of her fighting to get to her father, he must be a swell guy. Though I do wonder how it's managed to stay secret considering how Tekken 8's been 😆
Love that in the final battle, Kazuya keeps changing forms to become more powerful, going full anime. And Heihachi's answer to every power up is "More Heihachi".
That old man survived things that no else would lol
He didn't sugarcoat it
that is not just true, it's canon
Honestly, i think Heihachi's death would have been more believable and less memey if the real way to kill Heihachi for good was by giving him a proper burial in peace, next to Kazumi's grave.
@@Paronakkazuya would never do that lol
He’s the living embodiment of the gigachad meme
Honestly, the fact that Akuma waited 40 years to kill Heihachi and Kazuya because he "wanted them to get stronger" is a very Akuma thing to do
How was is akuma's story?
Indeed.
@@Tha-mountain Because it's tek-ken
I find this the perfect opportunity to remind people that Akuma is/was a fruit vendor.
Strictly speaking, he is not an evil person. Yes, he's killed a few people, but it should be said that they were incredibly strong and barring his master, he's killed pretty much only bad guys. And his master was glad to die at his hands. He does not oppress, let alone kill, anyone weaker than him -- in fact he will defend them sometimes -- and he backed out of a fight with Gen once he realized he was ill. He fought Oro and they both realized they were evenly matched and if they took the fight seriously, they would more than likely have killed each other, so they stopped.
He's probably the best example of a morally gray character that is infamous for using evil powers, literally called "evil intent," and even spouts some edgy one-liners sometimes... without actually doing anything inherently evil.
@@forgot7en thx u for the lore dude
Y'know, it's kinda funny to think that Heihachi treated a pet bear better than he ever did his own son.
Wouldn't you?
Not once, but TWICE!😆
*Correction: 3 times [Kuma Sr., Panda, and Kuma Jr.]
To be fair Kazuya did tried to kill him but that was Hechi fault , he should have just apologized for killing Kazuya mother and try to explain things to him.
you would be surprised how much better most of the world would treat animals than kids sadly
"After all that, Heihachi Mishima, is finally dead."
Hehachi: *"You fool. I HAVE 70 ALTERNATIVE ACCOUNTS!"*
😂
Fun fact Tekken holds the Guinness world record for longest cohesive storyline in all of gaming.
Interstanding
Is this true?... Googling it now
Its true. Apparently they broke 2 records, look up the information yourself.
Thats nuts, of all the games out there my favourite fighting game holds the record, well deserved id say
I reckon yakuza will be coming up on that
Armor King having a long hidden brother that replaces him in Tekken 6 is the perfect combination of pro wrestling and Mexican telenovela schlock I wonder if it was intentional
It's definitely intentional, it's fucking great
the way its revealed was fucking hilarious as well
You'd think some old Weng-type of dude who's dad trained the Armor King brothers, would finally tell King his master had a brother
It's a mix of Mexican telanovela, Turkish drama and pro wrestling. It's fucking intentional.
How would it not be intentional?
I've always loved how Tekken's lore manages to be both completely bonkers _and_ serious at the same time. And it works.
You can see stuff like "Hey, let's throw a bear/Kangeroo/raptor in and just attach it to someone, something, somehow." Or "wouldn't going forward in time be really cool?" But then still have Ganryu chase after the fighter with Michelle's moves (her daughter...coincidence? Lei arrests him for perversion!), Tradition (Kazuya and Jin constantly taking over corporations and end up being evil...mostly), even though it's just kinda humourous they all hate their father, so why mimic them? Anna seems like more of the innocent sister after all, and I grew up thinking she was the evil one that was with evil Kazuya and fucked with her sister's memories. I didn't know Heihachi also raised Panda and rewarded Xiaoyu, I thought she had beef with him based on her ending! Panda thinks she is too old for Kuma?? That's it?? That's hilarious. Jun only met Kazuya because he created had Dr B create Rojer. Lol
Honestly as a writer I love writing stories like this. It starts off completely incoherent with a bunch of borderline incomprehensible plots happening at the same time. But as things go on you seamlessly transition into a heartwrenching and epic tale that leaves a genuine impact on the reader.
@@Sluggadome_Rotunda_Bernardson Homestuck in a nutshell
It's all so stupid and meaninglessly random that there is no point to get invested into any of it though. I'd rather a hero story where the writers don't constantly just make shit up like crappy fan fiction. Anything "works" if you don't care about consistency/quality. It's amusingly random and dark sometimes, I'll give it that.
@@kelp7060 I mean you're asking to find a meaningful storyline in a fighting game series. I thought it was kind of obvious it wouldn't be the most thought-provoking and emotionally intelligent work. The focus isn't the story, the story is just to justify the character roster and gameplay is the most important part of a fighting game.
As far as I can tell, Tekken's entire story is Kazuya and Heihachi taking turns throwing each other off a cliff while yelling "I'M NOT GONNA SUGARCOAT IT."
He also shot his own grandson after using him for bait
Daaaaaaaaamn
TO BE FAIR* TO HEIHACHI: Tekken 7 revealed he knew Kazuya had a cursed bloodline from his mother’s side and was basically trying to be the “genre savvy” dad in the horror movie that makes the difficult choice* of killing his demonically possessed child before they can become a problem. Unfortunately for him, even as a child, Kazuya was just THAT tough plus his dormant Devil Gene was enough to help him survive.
The asterisks are because Heihachi is still definitely 100% an asshole, and it’s saying something when you can STILL be the “asshole they love to hate” when you’re trying to end a demonic curse before it ruins the world
It's really refreshing how in Tekken, psychotic violent madmen are portrayed as psychotic violent madmen, not misunderstood heroes.
Or are they the ultimate misunderstood heroes? Those muscles are too thick for normies to understand their hearts.
This.. We've had the bs "misunderstood" anti-hero plot lines beat over our head since the early 2000s. Tekken was having none of that. Some people are just evil, no explanation needed.
Insane... The MOTHERFUCKERS who made these games oughta be in goddamn STRAIGHTJACKETS...!!!
And I'm here for it...!!!
Don't act like it's just me...
Except for Jin Kazama in Tekken 6 I guess.
@@yoursonisold8743 the way jin was handled in t6 towards the end pisses me off, i didn't mind his heel turn as much as i did for the fact that they tried to justify his actions.
"No one in the Mishima bloodline is untainted by evil. No matter how good someone seems, there's monstrosity lurking beneath the surface. Also...two kangaroos are married and the father cheats on the wife and she leaves him for a genetically engineered velociraptor who becomes a stepfather to his son."
Go on.
🍿🍿🍿
But Lars is a good guy.
what
@@ricardomarquez7730 for now
@@irvinalexanderflores "For now" it's not like he's gonna turn evil or pull a Jin/Kazuya/Heihachi besides Lars has Alisa to keep him on the good guys. He also has a strong sense of justice.
To the writers’ credit, the King and Armor King storyline is generally on par with most professional wrestling storylines.
I dunno if that’s a compliment considering all the shit they’re putting out on TV these days
They kinda cheat a bit with King by using actual wrestling priest Fray Tormenta's backstory for him. Heck even King Jr.'s whole background is basically the same as Fray Tormenta Jr., who really was an orphan inspired by the original (said backstory was also fictitiously given to Lucha star Mistico).
@@ItsAVolcano sounds more like nacho libre lol
@@Shin_Akumi which was based on his life, and unfortunately how most people remember him.
koron
Welp, we can add another to the list of Heihachi just not fucking dying
"i wasnt in that tank" lookin ass
I hope he does a Tekken 8 vid talking about Heihachi's resurrection!
@Iqzzy-KO I know. At this point, the dude must have a controlling stake in plot armor
@@MrNITROPSYCHO Well he said something about Heihachi's return at the end of the Mortal Kombat vid. I ain't played the new story mode yet, so no spoilers please (ain't even played the original story mode yet either), but I'm just pissed off that Kazuya's biggest achievement just became undone!
Akuma jumping into being cannon in an entirely different franchise for a worthy opponent is the kind of energy I wish I had in everyday life.
Peak Akuma tbh.
I'm assuming they were able to use him since they never made Tekken vs street fighter but Capcom made street fighter x tekken... so they used Akuma and called it even
How come he didn't mention Gon, the Dinosaur in Tekken 3?
@@KairoKprobably because gon was a guest fighter and not cannon
If you find the need for a rival to overcome, then look into the mirror.
Love how no matter which Mishima’s in charge of the zaibatsu they still make Paul & Kuma fight 💀
And Paul is still determined
i love that in seven kuma cant fight with paul at the time so they make him fight panda💀they just hate mah boy
Now in 8 they also do, lol.
That was his punishment for almost being stronger than a Mishima 😂😂😂
It's a family tradition
It says a lot that a lot of the Mishima family members have demonic superpowers yet Heihachi does not but can still fight on equal footing with them
an honest determined & caring father, turned evil by the forces which bound him alongside misguided solutions
I think at some point they said he was a descendant of a god but I honestly couldn’t tell you if I dreamed that or not
@@Diogenes76__ yeah the Mishima all are descendent of thunder gods hence the big ol hair
@@keatonyung938 I always told myself their hair stands up from all the electricity flowing through their beings
He's that badass! Repeat after me, Heihachi did nothing wrong.
You know Tekken's insane when Akuma is the most normal thing there.
honestly, if he was a mishima, he would probably be one of the lesser evils
Love how King just roars and then the guy answers: don't lie at me!
that's how it feels to talk with your cat, i think it's wholesome
Dude with jaguar mask is one of the most lawful good characters in the series
Pretty sure that's his head though
nah its just a mask ;d@@Asterion_Mol0c
Has anyone noticed the subtle story telling of the character designs? Specifically with Jin and Kazuya’s devil forms.
Kazuya is a villain, he’s always been a villain, the only time he aligns with good is when he’s trying to kill a family member.
So his devil form has bat wings.
Jin meanwhile is generally good aligned, but willing to do immense evil if it means saving the world.
So his wings are feathered.
Kazuya is a devil and nothing more, while Jin is a fallen angel.
I actually didnt notice thats awesome
What about Kazumi? her wings are weird
@@The_Acolyte she a furry i guess
@@The_Acolyte she had a good intent, but this intent is slowly corrupting her into spitting words that she might gonna regret in the end(like saying Heihachi should never marry that woman in the first place), and she had more direct inspiration to theatrical art of Kabuki, so the wings were like spitting flames all around
lol devil wings bad man angel wings good man
very subtle
"Swords are allowed?! In the 'Iron Fist' Tournament?!" yeah... we've been raising that point for years...
The kanji for fist, "ken", also means sword, so in a very yoshimitsu style, it's sort of a pun.
The cursed sword is also called Yoshimitsu, what if the sword is instigating its wielder to sign it up to the tournament? Then, the real participant is the sword, and the sword is not using a weapon, it's using the fists of its wielder.
Point? I see what you did there
🗡 😎👍
It's probably some sort of charm that every time King makes an enemy, they become his friend after awhile.
Like naruto 😂
or jojos
Or Goku
Or Kenshin?
@@crimsonthereaper3015man it eh pro wrestling version of goku
This definitely one of the most thorough Tekken breakdowns I’ve ever seen.
Jun/Kazuya’s relationship was basically-
Jun: “I can fix him”
**one pregnancy and years later**
Jin: “Did you fix him?”
Jun: “….don’t get involved with your father or the Mishimas.”
2024 Update
Jin: "I got involved with my father and the Mishimas."
Jun: "And what did we learn?"
Jin: "...don't get involved with father and the Mishimas."
Jun: "Mmhmm, eat your peas."
💀💀💀
She told Jin to go see Heihachi
@@Sjono Right before encountering Ogre and her fate. Before that, she considered the Mishimas a no-fly zone
@@TheHuskyK9
I just watch the latest Tekken anime and I didn’t see any instance where Jun told Jin to stay away from the Mishimas prior to Ogre. Granted she didn’t talk about Kazuya, but I didn’t see her actively telling him to stay away from them
I mean right after they had seggs and she probably doesn’t even know she’s pregnant yet kazuma got thrown into the lava and wake up all the way after the ogre arc where jun disappears
So she never really had the chance to do “I can fix him”
1:45:22 Well... *THAT DIDN'T AGE WELL!*
What was the line again, Clement- Oh right!... *UNKILLABLE!*
UN KILL A BLE
I mean, he basically survives, so...
Heihachi treats 3 bears better than 3 of his own family members
You mean 4. Kazuya, Jin, and Jinpachi, yes, but don’t forget Kazumi
@@edmpunkfire7793 then Lars and Lee should count too
@@pedrocavalheiro3825 True
Well in Heihachi's mind he was toughening Kazuya up. Which did in fact work out.
@@edmpunkfire7793he actually loved Kazumi and shed tears at her death, but he had to kill the devil.
King is unironically one of deepest and best characters gameplay and lorewise
Eurgh 'uNiRonIcaLly'
@@Alostwanderer88deez nuts
Nah king is literally nacho libre
@@gabriel9116jKing is Fray Tormenta
Nahhh yoshimitsu, wang and Juns story go much deeper if you read the manga
Fun lesser known fact. Tekken 5.0 arcade version before the console release was released with heihachi locked away in the game with no signs of his character existing. This made us arcade players thinking he really was dead. Then months later he was time released and shocked everybody. But the console was released months after that.
I remember this! there were all sorts of wild debates as to whether he was alive or they'd truly killed him off, and the release was so hype!
You could never pull that off today
@@KaitouKaiju They did something just as sneaky in apex legends where they faked a whole character and "Accidentally" left him in the files before the new season came out only for the reveal trailer to kill him off and actually reveal the character
Who is here after Tekken'8 Hiehachi reveal?
THE OLD MAN IS UN-KILL-ABLE!
Dude survives explosions, being thrown through the air, getting lasered by the devil and he catches bullets with his teeth.
If there's one thing in this series that indestructible, it's Heihachi.
He was cursed by baldness but blessed by sheer plot armor.
@@nisnast the baldness is what makes him so unkillable
@nisnast but can he survive the stairs?
When the world ends and humans are all dead, the only thing left will be cockroaches and Heihachi.
At around 14:45. I played Tekken 1 EXTENSIVELY with my friends. And this is the first time I realized that King's orphans that he takes care of in Mexico are 1) Japanese and 2) they're actually adults wearing office attire.
Tekken is wild
BRO WHY DID YOU TELL ME THAT
MY GOD YOUR RIGHT
HOW FUCKING TALL IS KING???
@@hilotakenaka Probably 7 foot.
33:14 “Aside from the non-canon Tag games, Jun never comes back.”
NOT ANYMORE
Wdym?
@@levy5698she back watch t8 trailer
@@Tha-mountainOnly in flashbacks and spirit
@@edmpunkfire7793 she’s a playable character
@@jayarby8494 no she ain’t. She’s only in a flashback of Jin’s
Kazuya smiling after throwing his old man off a cliff is both hilarious but also terrifying. He just murdered a person and became the head of his father's crime empire. Yet he doesn't do a maniacal laugh or even greave the only father he knew. He just smiles. Coldly looking into the distance before smiling. If the animation didn't look so Bowling Alley, that scene could have been a lot more terrifying than goofy.
I think the one in Tekken 7 is perfect too, he's been saving up one of Heihachi's quote and used it against him while showing a cold, collected face after throwing his father off a cliff the second time.
The music doesnt help 💀
Bowling Alley is a fantastic description. Just needs a big Wii Sports STRIKE and you're dead on.
@@junilog that game also had one of the most heart wrenching prologue fights in gaming history in my opinion especially the end because it actually prompts you, the player, to infamously throw Kazuya off the goddamn cliff
I used to love Lei Wulong since he was basically Jackie Chan, but learning how he actually impacts the lore makes me like him more. He is never the focus or protagonist or considered one of the strongest fighters, but his investigation skills reveals info that changes other characters’ motivations and even takes down important organizations. He’s pretty underrated to the story and probably impacts it more than more important characters.
Plus, he's one of the few characters that are legit heroes to some extent
Fun fact - in a "blink and you'll miss it" throwaway line in Kazuya's Tekken 1 Character Bio, he is canonically a sneakerhead.
He was wearing Chuck Taylors on Tekken 1
What's a sneakerhead?
@@HOTD108_ a sneakerhead is this: a person who likes sense of fashion among shoes or style of shoes therefore he collects those particular shoes or a Style of shoes. The other word of shoes are sneakers, therefore we are called sneakerheads
@@thomasanderson3892 no he was actually wearing low top Nike’s
@@MT-jd8pc okay so when he did upper cuts was he wearing the Space Jam's?
14:58 I've been playing Tekken for so long since I was 4 years old that the fact King is 100% a human man but only speaks in jaguar sounds completely went over my head and I never truly thought about it until now lmfao this franchise really is insane I love it
lmaooo I always assumed he was just another mutant thingy 💀
I didn’t think about that until I read this, and yea I been playing since ps1 too but never thought about it lol
as a wrestling fan who only played a little bit of tekken, this was pretty much the only fact I knew that was mentioned in this video.
@@deanchstr i started on Tekken 2 and the intro cutscene that plays showed King stumbling around drunk in an alley then cuts to Armor King throwing his mask on the ground which is when I realized he was a just a dude wearing a mask lol. still i never questioned why he never talked 😂
As a Hwoarang main, I was really happy seeing him reject the Devil Gene. Man has the makings of being a future Heihachi but with a cleaner moral compass.
1:45:25 heihachi was not in fact dead. He has now officially beaten William afton's respawn record
Where do Ridley, Sigma and M. Bison rank on that list?
@DarthMolgy not as up to date with metroid or Mega Man lore but I know M. bison is probably beaten the record at this point too
Fun fact: not only does Heihachi land in a grave after the Honmaru explosion, he lands literally in the Mishima Family Grave. The tombstone says 三島家之基 which roughly translates to „Mishima family foundation stone“
They probably have stocks of food under their tombstones just so that the dead can enjoy because why not.
Lee Chaolan:
Starts from being an orphan involved in street fights, ends up being a wealthy engineer.
Be like Lee.
Be excellent.
😂
Whoop ass build jets
Adopt the Lee Chaolan grindset:
- take care of your body and mind
- be kind and respectful to women
- work for your success the hard way
- say excellent...A LOT, while throwing out singular roses
- be adopted into a very screwed family that literally caused a world war and never get mentioned as part of the family so youre always not involved with the global chaos they are causing (optional step for added motivation)
The Lee Chaolan CEO Grindset
Last bullet point: wear ultra tight pants to show off your big schlong.
If I had to guess, all of the reverence shown, and retcons made to Heihachi's backstory are due to the longest running voice actor for the character passing away in 2010 between games. So they wanted to send off the character properly. Which unfortunately seemed to have turned into a double send off, as the replacement voice actor also passed away 3 years after the release of Tekken 7.
Oh dang... I think this comment should be bumped up then. Double RIP
Damn I am so sorry for criticizing the voice acting for Heihachi and Jin being too slow now.
@@bestdadakasongoku4157 Don't feel too bad, after the release, the initial marketing got completely over shadowed by all of the additional guest characters and DLC. I didn't even know that the second Heihachi VA passed until I relooked up the info about the first, after watching this video. T7 came out back in 2015, and a lot has happened between then and now. So I don't blame you at all. lol
I pretty much knew the 2nd Heihachi VA passing away since that man also voiced Old Joseph Joestar but I didn't even know he was a replacement of a previous Heihachi VA, thought he was the same all throughout even though I started playing the series in Tekken 5.
Is it the same Heihachi va who also voiced Jack, P. Jack, and Ganryu in Tekken 1 ?
This whole video is why I love this series. They don't take themselves too seriously. And I am here for it.
I hope you'll turn this into a series, there's so many overlooked, crazy lores in video games these days.
Would love to see the lore if soul calibur next ngl
The rabbit hole goes deep. Can't wait for him to do Xevious, that arcade game where you're a ship that shoots and drops bombs and has no plot, which has an untranslated japanese novel of lore.
Same
15:15 Not only does having each character speak their own language make for incredible cutscenes, it has to save Bamco a TON of money on localization. No need to have voice actors for the whole cast in a half dozen different voice languages, just get the one VA for the character's "native language" and you're golden.
It's also a weirdly nice thing to see a culture of a fighting game appreciate globalization.
@@Killgore-ip2yqthen there's Lidia. She's well made but why? Why make a polish character a prime minister, where politicians are most hated social group. And fighting karate of all things. Why.
@@mimikyulostatail4705cause its poggers
@@mimikyulostatail4705 For the same reason Warhammer 40k is batshit insane & stupid: Because it's cool.
I'm an American, and If I were a videogame character, I would want to speak Japanese in the Japanese release (because it's such a beautiful language). And every other language in every other regional release. Honestly, it's a huge pet peeve of mine when games do as you described. (Punch-Out!! Wii being a notable exception.)
The fact that heihachi shed a tear when fighting Kazuya kinda made it seem like he didn’t want it to be that way
I mean at the end of the day that's his child deep down inside. It's like how he shred a tear when he killed his wife even after finding out their entire relationship was essentially a lie
If he could change it he absolutely would.
It’s unfortunate.
@@ValentinoMarino11 it doesn't matter if Heihachi can change anything, it all comes down to Kazuya. If Kaz changed none of this would happen
@@NiCoNiCoNiCola it's not like Heihachi made strides to make him change, the bastard has been antagonizing him for so damn long.
he threw a kid off a cliff
Man the funny thing about the whole lore of tekken is that it has some sort of a similar structure with the jojo lore.
Ogre is basically inspired by the Pillar Men
And Paul’s hair pre-Tekken 5 was basically Polnareff
The whole story is even more sad and ironic considering that Kazuya's name means *'Peace'* / loving.
I think you're confusing him with Heihachi? Unless there's number symbolism here that I'm missing, in which case do correct me.
For some oversimplified context:
Mishima = 三島 = "three" + "island"
Jinpachi = 仁八 = "humanity/virtue" + "eight"
Heihachi = 平八 = "peace" + "eight" [I assume this is what you meant?]
Kazuya = 一八 = "one" + "eight"
Hachijou = 八条 = "eight" + "article/clause"
Kazumi = 一美 = "one" + "beauty"
Kazama = 風間 = "wind" + "interval"
Jun = 準 = "to correspond/to be proportionate [to something]"
Jin = 仁 = "humanity/virtue"
I guess the main takeaways from all this are that Tekken 8 is going to be epic, and that Heihachi's lack of imagination when it comes to names precedes the Kumas and Panda, because "Kazuya" is just a mashup of "Kazumi" and "Heihachi".
...And also that Kazuya had likely talked with Jun about his family life prior to being thrown into lava, seeing as Jin was clearly named after Kazuya's beloved grandpa.
@@phytohormones Bruh I never realized that Jin name is literally the first kanji from Jinpachi's name. Really shows how Kazuya really loves his grandpa.
Also I kinda hope one of the new character will be from Hachijo clan but that might just extend the story even more huh.
i think kazuya is an anagram for the yakuza mafia it has something to do with that
@@phytohormones Actually Kazuya DOES mean *peace*
FYI: It's similar to the character 'Kazuhira' Miller whose first name also means peace.... It's actually a plot theme in MGS Peace Walker where he and another character 'Paz' have a discussion about their names mean *Peace* ✌🏾.
But yeah Kaz's name means peace, I remember hearing it from a dev discussing the name when back when Tekken 4 / 5 came out.
Also, just Google the name Kazuya, and it's literally the first result showing the name meaning peace
@@curtisjackson4090 I looked it up, and while you're right (thank you, I genuinely didn't know!), it's a little more interesting than that.
"Kazu", written with the kanji "和" instead of "一" (any applicable kanji may be used for the "ya" part, it's the first one that is relevant), can indeed mean "peace". "和" on its own actually just means "harmony", but when combined with "平" into "平和" (= "heiwa"), it results in the standard, commonly used, normal word for "peace"; the association between the two kanji is quite strong.
Kazuhira Miller's first name is written only in katakana, as "カズヒラ", but this "peaceful" meaning is still implied; I'm therefore assuming (I don't actually know for sure, unfortunately) that the usage of the "和" kanji is common in "Kazu" names and a Japanese person will infer this meaning even with a different kanji.
This gets me to my point: "和" is notably NOT the kanji Kazuya's (and Kazumi's) name uses; he just has the number "one". He is pointedly and intentionally not "peaceful", despite being given the opportunity to be.
It gets better: as I wrote above, Heihachi's name IS, ironically, written with a "peaceful" kanji (平), the first one in the normal word for "peace" (平和). If Kazuya's name were written with that second kanji (和), as "Kazu" names often are, the father-son duo's names would, combined, mean "peace"... and, perhaps, they would be a peaceful family...?
But it isn't, and they aren't. And so, they are instead the dysfunctional mess we all know and love.
Heihachi is the true owner of the phrase
"As you can see, I'm not dead"
Kratos, literally climbing out of Hell multiple times: "Death can claim me WHEN it has earned it."
"Well, my death was quite... exaggerated"
This comment is probably a spoiler for tekken 8 honestly
@@marcusgabriel8365 nah heihachi is dead
William Afton: I always come back
heihachi: I always comed back before you were always coming back!
William Afton: Wait... Did you kill kids?
Heihachi: attempted to, yes
William Afton: wanna be murder buddies?
heihachi: HELL YEAH
both: WE ALWAYS COME BACK
Can't believe you never picked up King's real life inspiration of Fray Tormenta ("brother tempest") the actual wrestling priest who ran an orphanage and who, both IRL and Kayfabe, would inspire some of his orphans to become pro wrestlers as well.
He's actually still alive and occasionally performs mass wearing his old Lucha mask.😁
Did Nacho Libre take inspiration from this as well?
@@dividedxzero2202 actually it was
That's amazing.
So... you're telling me all other Tekken lore could actually be real...
Clement watching Heihachi’s reveal in Tekken 8: “UN-KILLABLE!”
*"either you die as a hero, or live long enough to be the villain"*
Jin in T5: *WHY TF DIDN'T SAY THIS BEFOREHAND?!*
Tbf Jin was already a "villain" in 6
At least in the world of Tekken you can be assured that when you become a villain, the hero that defeats you will live long enough to become a villain as well…
t8: nvm im good
Fun Fact:
Said by Harada himself, the Tekken Tag Tournament Games are actually apart of Ganryu's Imagination, so even though the Tag Games aren't fully canon, they're just apart of Ganryu's Imagination and he knows something about Devil Jin and Devil Kazuya.
Godbless Ganryu and his imagination for giving us the Tekken Tags lol
I like to imagine that the tag tournaments are Ganryu just going full Alex Jones to the world and it just happens to be true
I love how this implies Ganryu is omnipotent, given how much he knows about other characters.
i've heard that the creator of tekken used imperial japan as his inspiration for hiehachi. that is why he's power obsessed and ruthless. after the war, parent's were extremely hard on their children, using these experiences he created the michima blood feud as a representation for the growth of japan, hiehachi representing before and during wartime japan, kazuya being the in between. and jin being the rep for modern japan and how much it has changed over the past 70 years.
Dude, make so much sense actually, I was thinking this while at Tekken 7 Heihachi it's simple UN-KILL-ABLE and how much that remember me from the vision that Japan has from Nobunaga, being 3 main characters in a dynamic of the story, representing exactly Oda and his successors, being the second the most ruthless and violent above them and the last one, Tokugawa, like Jin, though have done terrible things in war, being the hero that's the unifier and pacifier of Japan, starter of the new peaceful era that last for 200 years!
I kinda figured that along time ago
@@kaisarr7632 good for you?
that also ties in with him being the head of a war-profiteering zaibatsu.
@@eliseubonato8298 let’s not abandon Jin starting WW3 out of blue
This video felt like me and six friends arguing and sorting out everything we know about tekken at the lunch table.
I love that Akuma is basically like “you were all a bunch of weak bitches so I waited until you weren’t” then proceeds to body both main characters (but not really) and then come back again and try it against an even stronger Kaz. He’s just the biggest ass
Understandable
He has fuck you bitch die energy and I love it every time he shows up
In any other game it’d be a lousy way to cover a plot hole. In Tekken, with all the insane motivations and Akuma being Akuma and not honoring a promise 100% to ‘save the world from Heiachi’, just to fight and kill them, it fits perfectly.
Ascended Heihachi is now my favorite character lorewise. No superpowers, special devil genes or murderous intent with magic fireball martial arts.
Just yells, rips his shirt halfway and maximizes old man strength lmao
What made Heihachi's so damn unkillable, is that Jinpachi trained him to be so stubborn that even in the face of death he just "nuh uh" out of everything. Just to prove them wrong.
To be fair he collapsed to his knee due to using the form and was left vulnerable to Base Kazuya.
Seemed like he overdid it and his body paid the price
@@newhybrid101point is he outlasted Kazuya. If it werent for the devil gene, Kaz would be long gone. Hei really tanked full powered lasers that can destroy satellites, and beat the devil out of Kazuya forcing him to win in his base form lmao
Tekken 8 will give heihachi super dementia which will give him the ability to forget that he died
Pretty much
lol
Brother predicted the future
bro kinda predicted it
bruh
"Jun never comes back"
Well, about that.
Unknown?
@@BBoy4040 No, Tekken 8.
About Jun Kazama, Harada confirmed that she wasn't killed. He said that she went missing. So hopefully she'll come back in tekken 8 as she's also a main part of the story. It's insane that she's actually supposed to be in tekken 3 and 4.
Edit: Oh boy. I'm so glad that I was right. Welcome back Jun!
Edit 2: Well, looks like Heihachi is... ALIVE!
They back peddle so much. in tekken 3s opening ogre is holding her head.... i luv tekken but they be messin up with their story.
@@vinloc3854 or was it👀
@@vinloc3854 That was a nightmare sequence in Tekken 3's opening that Jin was having.
Jun is better off dead. She sits back and watches Jin go through everything? Watches a war between Jin and Kazuya? Then she comes back? Better off without her
@@vinloc3854 I think it's king one's head
Sorry for late response.
Just to correct you on one point, it wasn't that Anna ''couldn't live without Nina'' as to why she volunteered for cryosleep, it was because she was envious that Nina would remain a smoking hot blonde babe whilst she (Anna) would be a greying old lady. Its also kind of funny that you said that Anna stopped Nina from getting a gangbang in her Tekken 3 ending and that was her revenge, when in the original Japanese version Nina actually rips Anna's bra off! Nina during this time was absolutely the bigger bully.
the japanese version have a different lore sometimes? But you gotta admit the « No gangbang for you Nina ! » line was funny
I thought i was the only one who noticed that.
"Lars is actually a Mishima"
You basically can't NOT be a Mishima with this haircut
facts
Weird hairstyle is definetely a Mishima must have thing
If it Spikes, it's a Mishima
@@Kiisluu
That and male patented baldness.
Must mean Lars has the devil gene.
so.. Tekken 8 Paul will too?
Who's here after heihachi just walked out the volcano 🌋 💀???
Me
How is he still alive?😂
@@sonicrush44because he's heihachi
I’ve watched so many tekken lore videos and as a massive lifelong fan myself, I’ve never found one that covered all the characters so well until this one! I loved how much detail you went into for each character! However I don’t know if it was mentioned that Xiaoyu’s ending in tekken 4 I believe is canon as she started her search for Jin resulting in her ultimately ending up being taken by Claudio which was teased in Tekken 7. Hopefully he becomes a big villain in 8 and Jin and Xiaoyu can reunite
Another Xiaoyu fan!!! Hurray!
Ever since Blood Vengeance, I've been dying to see Xiaoyu play a bigger canon role alongside bestie Alyssa and Jin.
@@adiksaff loved her role in Blood Vengeance! I’m really hoping her and Hwoarang get to play bigger roles in Jin’s squad moving forward in the series, Asuka too!
Tekken 8: After his death, Heihachi’s soul looks for someone worthy of his mighty power, and binds to Jin’s body, making him evil again while also making him stronger than ever
Tekken 9: Dr Newcharacter finds a sciencey way to destroy the Heihachi part of Jin. This fails, and Heihachi and Jin are split into two, with Heihachi receiving a magically younger body
Tekken X: Turns out Dr. Newcharacter had been working for Heihachi this whole time, and split him from Jin on purpose. For this loyalty, Heihachi kills Dr. Newcharacter, leaving Dr. Newcharacter Jr. in charge.
Tekken (reboot): Heihachi’s actually a good guy now.
Tekken II (after fan backlash): In a shocking twist, actually he was evil the whole time!
tekken 8,9, and X: pauls still consistently whooping bear ass all over the place
And id still buy it
Dumb as hell but make sense perfectly for a tekken plot
@@sabbathjackal and he still can't get to the finals of the tournament on time.
Underrated comment 😂😂
Fun fact: The reason all the fighters can understand each other, is because they all were given a translator ear piece device that helps translate the language being spoken to their own.
The existence of the animals and Mokujin makes me question that statement.
@@AlexThat200.....Animal whisperers?
I just assumed everyone in the Tekken Universe is a Polyglot.
@@AlexThat200 canonicaly, Kuma knows Japanese, so maybe there is some way to translate they're speech. Mokujin and Panda never really talk actually, I personally don't remember a scene that is canonical where they actually talk. correct me if I'm wrong
@@thatdudefromthehood2960
I can't remember for Panda all too well, but I know they do talk in their rival cutscene in Tekken 5, and ending in Tekken Tag 2.
For Mokujin, the only time they've actually talked is actually the same case for Panda in Tekken 5 where they talk in their rival cutscene. And Mokujin talks in way that sounds like knocking wood.
the armored king 2 reveal scene had me dieing of laughter, even the expression on kings mask fits perfectly xD
The lore for fighting games is usually why I love these franchises. I love street fighter mainly for the characters. I’ve played them and liked them but I absolutely suck at them but I still can’t wait to see SF6 and Tekken 8.
You and I are the same on this, nice :)
some will say "fighting games doesn't need a story" but if those characters fight each other for no reason then it's no different than MUGEN.
@@obiyofi9792 same thing with every competitive games. Some people wonder why fps and moba need world building and lore
Funny part is SF's lore is the Tamest lore compared to all FGs save for, say Virtua.
@@obiyofi9792
>MUGEN
There's a name I haven't heard in a while.
Damn! An entire video going through an entire fighting game franchise and its story and lore. Wonder if other fighting game franchises will get talked about in this style?
I must recommend the PCP University video on Guilty Gear if you want more of this sort of thing
I know Yakuza is not technically a fighting game, but that series I would love if he gave full-blown retrospectives on
Sonic the Fighters lore video when?
I recommend Thorgi’s Arcade’s King of Fighters, Darkstalkers, and Rival Schools retrospectives
Woolie did a 5 part series on guilty gear lore. It came out right before Strive, so that is excluded, but it is more than comprehensive up to that
I like to think that Paul actually did leave early for his fight against Heihachi in Tekken 2 to make sure he wouldn't miss it, but instead he ended up meeting the fate he tried to avoid. Dude had bad luck since the beginning that only got worse as time went on.
its probably better he didnt show up, who knows what mightve happened if he eventually faced devil
@@Cloverlee19He's the strongest in the universe, he'd win
watching this video while downloading Tekken 8, so good.
Just did the same and binged the whole story mode, you’re gonna enjoy it bro
Should’ve watched this before Tekken 8 came out so I could at least play Tekken 7 first. 😭
Bro I never have been able to beat jinpachi
whats the song on this vid called ?
@@strudelh yh imo tekken 7 is better cause tekken 8 is too beginner friendly
I literally just bought Tekken 6 for the ps3 from a thrift shop on a whim and watched this vid to get caught up on the story. It is currently 1 am and i am cheering silently at the screen. Thank you so much for introducing me to this franchise.
I can imagine them adding an orangatang character doing some gimicky monkey moves and annoying the heck outta tekken players in Tekken 8
sorry just a random thought from looking at your pfp
i read this and looked at my clock. 1:17AM.
This makes me so happy to hear. I hope you enjoy the other games too!!!
@@TJBlack3.5and then the orangutan actually turns out to be a secret love child that Heihachi had many years ago, making it another Mishima
I refuse to believe that Heihachi is dead. And also props to Lars and Lee being good uncles to Jin in the end of Tekken 7
He's dead because the VA is dead Heihachi wasn't going to die VA died so yeah.
@@videocommets Ah I see. It’d be awkward to hire a new va as well.
@@videocommets That has nothing to do with it. The previous Heihachi VA also died and was replaced
I am so used to Heihachi living, the feeling is unexplainable when he canonically died
That reason doesn't work anymore because of Tekken Bloonlines existing, which prominently features Heihachi. He's gonna come no matter what because he is the poster guy/most popular character. If anything, I'd like to see if they actually change something about him time instead in JUST coming back(like being a robot now or something....and his name is Jackhachi since it would obviously be based of Jack tech and Hachi is 8 in Japanese.)
It’s funny that “Heihachi’s dad is here” isn’t even the most insane part at all. It’s even funnier when you consider that everyone’s just like “yeah no that’s just how it is”
After a year, I’m still thinking you rocked the internet with this video.
What a piece of hard work (thank you) for this incredible saga.
Again, thank you ❤️👏🏻
I’d love to see a redemption arc for Paul Phoenix in t8 where he turns serious again and trains hard to actually finish off and win the tournament. Paul as the main protagonist would be cool af.
#PAULISPOWER
#PhoenixSmashForever
Paul does need to become a serious character again!!! I really hated how he became a comic relief in the later games. Also, Forrest Law needs to make a return in the main games.
I'm glad that TEKKEN Bloodlines, as slightly odd as it might be, made justice for Paul for the first time since Tekken 4 (AND also had something for King II's backstory). Spoilers below for the series but...
At the same time though, I was a bit bummed that Paul didn't get to really fight Ogre as it was implied in his T4's intro (he attacked True Ogre but ineffectively), but I know that was from how it wanted Jin to be the spotlight (and Paul being defeated by King), but at least it was the most respectful representation of him since a long while (and even though this didn't affect much in the story, they did say he was the only one comparable in fighting Kazuya, only defeated by his devil gene but otherwise considered a monster)
Paul ACTUALLY becomes the protagonist
So many of these lore type videos don't take the time to actually structure the video to the audio... Thank you so much for taking the time to actually make it fun to watch!
Bro, I'm a fighting game lore nut so I knew a lot of the obvious absurdities, but I'm 30 minutes in to this and I AM HOWLING
RIGHT
in Tekken 8 they decide to use that angel u mention at 29:27 so thats pretty cool ig
how did they utilize it?
@@iamspikefire It's a big story spoiler, but...
Jin uses his Kazama powers of purification (along with his mom's, who communicates and helps him through visions) to purify the Devil Gene inside himself, becoming Angel Jin.
@@tyrus1235... so does that imply the angel gene part is handed down to Jin along with part of the Devil gene as explained in Tekken 4?
Hyped to see how Tekken 8 resurrects Heihachi.
FORCE GHOST HEIHACHI IS HERE TO GIVE EVERYONE A NUDGY
probably a robo-heihachi, I wouldn't minde having him have a robotic laugh
Hachi is Japanese for eight I believe, so jack hachi would be jack eight. Which would make sense
Yeah... sadly I think we won't see Heihachi back in full glory ever again. His exodus from the series and final death in 7 were the result of his actual seiyu (jp voice actor) dying. Harada sent the character off rather than replace the actor as a sign of respect, iirc.
G corp transfers his mind into an identical clone, calling it now
I like to think Devil defeating Angel was a metaphor. The devil gene killed what good was left in Kazuya. Now he's 100% bad man with control over his devil powers.
Judging from your other videos, I don’t know what drove you to do a 2 hour deep dive into the lore of Tekken but I’m so grateful that you did. This franchise desperately needed one of these videos and I’m glad we finally have one that explores everything that’s canon and disregards everything that isn’t and explains every nook and cranny the series had the offer. Seriously, thank you. Now I only wish you’d do the same for that other very confusing franchise called Street Fighter haha.
I'm just wondering what got everyone suddenly interested to the point that this one million views.
@@CompletelyNewguy RUclips recommended looked kindly upon this video.
@@CompletelyNewguy
Probably helped that Tekken 8 was teased not too long ago when this released.
@@AlexThat200 And Tekken 8 is going to have Jin facing against Kazuya. Son vs father.
@@MegamanNG
And I’m so rooting for Jin on that fight!
May have made the biggest tragedy happen, but he’s still the guy I want to be behind.
I absolutely love your video! I just Platinum Tekken 8 on PS5 and I've re-watched your video every couple of times I love the content the story and I always get something out of watching your video even though it's long, thank you honestly❤
“The hero is now the villain and the villain is now the hero. How many sequels pulled that off?”
Donkey Kong Jr:
Azazel was a lot easier once I realised you needed a fast 3-hit string to break his armor. Jinpachi, however, just destroyed you whenever he wanted. At any point he could decide to stomp the ground, which was instant, unblockable, would freeze you and give him a free fireball, taking like a third of your health bar. and he wasn't above doing it 3 times in a row...
Yep, the AI on him was cheap AF
@@davidjsaulYeah....he wasn't hard I beat him 1st try on Ultra Hard
Jinpachi was a bastard, but you can get used to him and destroy him after going through the arcade mode a couple times.
Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection Jinpachi tho it's just cheap AI given form
So basically the entire series is just father and son uno reversing each other 8 times back to back
I said the same thing 😂😂 like damn ain’t nobody go try to talk it out 😭
@@519sasuke so its basically family drama. But like turn up the drama to yes
Dude the mishima family is so wack bro
@@susiehaltmann3342communication is hard skill to master 😂💁🏽♂️
"And then I had a son with the power of The Devil! No one saw that coming!"
"Oh yeah? Well guess what, Dad... so did I!"
[Crowd gasps]
@@zadenhomunculus8652 "I also have the angel power, because somebody remembered that plot point since a decade."
man i really love that clip from the t2 intro where king is stumbling around in an alley, armor king turns up, and throws his mask at his feet. no dialogue but you instantly understand what's happening (also a great character moment, having armor king just be like "get your shit together" and not letting his friend destroy himself)
i just love the whole insane lore of tekken, i love that there is such goofyness along with the absolute badassness
i think we should all give a big thanks to this series for the years and years of entertainment it has given all of us
Insane lore wtf try king of fighters
Something that may be important to note: There's no confirmation of Jun's death. Ogre shows up, she disappears, but she's never mentioned again. It's possible she ran away and is in hiding, or is chained up in an aztec temple, or some other thing so she can be used as a plot device in Tekken 8
u got the right yooo
She better off gone tbh. Why would should stay back and leave the face of the earth then have the audacity to come back? 😒
@@dilkuuu9567
How’d ya take the recent story news regarding Tekken 8?
Well, this aged like very, fine wine.
So Jun is confirmed in Tekken 8
It has crazy comedic elements but has a serious storyline with the Mishimas, and a number of the other fighters. I don't know any other videogame that combines such contrasting elements as well as Tekken and that is why it is my favorite fighting game of all time.
I'd say the Yakuza/RGG series does a good job of that as well
@@mohammedali-ol9lg i just wanted to comment the same thing
Killer Instinct has somewhat of this vibe on super Nintendo.
I remember orchid had a finisher move where she'd whip out her boobies and make the other persons head explode.
He just can't be stopped.
*Tekken 4* is the black sheep but definitely my favorite one, the first Tekken I played. The atmosphere, serious tone, music and story were all amazing.
The ending with everyone in the dojo used to give me chills, I think that ending is the best.
serious tone, until heachi comes out wearing a fucking diaper
Tekken 4 was always my favorite. Probably my favorite soundtrack too I love that game
As a gigantic lore nerd for this series, thank you for this. Did this story better justice than Namco has as of late.
Can u provide some insight on Leo I've always wanted to know who his mother is
@@Markill19 ayo?
Seeing Clement getting 1 millions views is making cry. Man its so fun seeing your favorite youtuber get so much. Keepnup the good work
Yeah when he does videos like some call me Johnny he gets more attention like the Sonic 06, rants.
2.7 million. So proud of him. Been a fan since 2010 with his X series videos
One of my favorite gaming youtubers from the 2000's getting a MIllion views just makes me so Happy loved his mega man and sonic videos.
shame none of his videos will ever see these numbers again
mostly thanks to youtube. His newest videos been out for almost 2 weeks and RUclips never told me
“THE MAN IS UNKILLABLE” and now that statement is still true.
Aged like fine wine (sorry couldn’t think of anything clever to say)
The Tower of Babel communication between the characters always amazes me lol
Dude this is great. I would love to see this become an ongoing series where you tackle the confusing lore of famous fighting game franchises. Like I think it would be interesting to see you cover Street fighter and all of the bizarre characters and things that were introduced outside of the core cast as the plot went on. Other franchises like mortal Kombat and Guilty Gear would probably be good for some humor as well.
iilj gg
Yes absolutely
Oh god... how about the SNKverse? That'd be one HELL of a doozy, especially with King of Fighters splitting off from the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting timeline into its own continuity.
@@maliciousbugman Thorgi’s Arcade Already did that just recently.
@@maliciousbugman I don't think I could ever ask someone, in good faith at least, to do that to themselves. That would take so much effort. Anyway, Thorgi's Arcade already made that Noble sacrifice and it took them four videos and a metric butt ton of work to do it. And that was just for the history of the king of fighters. If they had Incorporated fatal fury, the art of fighting, samurai showdown, and all the other franchises it would have taken them months. Well more months than it already did.
So Heihachi threw Kazuya off the cliff because he believed that if he survived, then he must have the Devil Gene. But when Kazuya threw Heihachi off the cliff, he also survived. Heihachi doesn't have the Devil Gene, he's just THE DEVIL.
kazuya survived because he had the devil gene. heihachi survived because hes HIM.
@@siwap3809also known as "that guy"
@@siwap3809 Missed opportunity to say "He's built different".
@@Juju2927 i strongly disagree; "hes HIM" goes wayyy harder than "hes built different"
i.e. if i said "hes built different" instead, it would have been a missed opportunity to say "hes HIM", imo
(nothing personal)
@@siwap3809yeah you're right, I feel like "he's built different" is too old in meme years nowadays. He's HIM is the new thing I guess.
Who else back here now that Heihachi was announced to return?
My man had his perfect, emotional sendoff
And now they bring him back... they really don't care, it's insulting