Responding to Cody Rhodes
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- From The Stevie Richards Show episode 4 - Responding to Cody Rhodes
A few days ago, friend of our show Chris Van Vliet posted a sit down interview with current WWE Champion, Cody Rhodes - • Cody Rhodes On Turning...
During the interview, Cody Rhodes invoked the name of Stevie Richards in somewhat of a snarky manner, regarding Stevie Richards telling all young wrestlers on RUclips how they don't know how to wrestle. Now, does Stevie Richards get upset over the comments? Absolutely not!
Aside from the free (and appreciated) plug for Stevie Richards Fitness, Stevie knows that Cody Rhodes has a rather dry, sarcastic sense of humour, and that no ill will was intended... probably!
The conversation then veers to other comments Cody Rhodes made regarding his departure from AEW. He's never stated the explicit reasons, but in the Chris Van Vliet interview, he drops hints that there was a bad fallout at the end, as well as suggesting that AEW was only a stop gap until he returned to WWE. Stevie Richards analyses Cody Rhodes interesting comments.
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Love you Stevie, I could listen to you talk for hours about wrestling. Keep up the great work! Thanks for checking out my episode with Cody. Also your 75 minute workout sounds insane 😅
W CVV
KOO VOO VOOT
75 minute workout
My knees say that is not happening😂
I echo that. I love listening to this wrestling podcasts. Maven, Taker, Stevie, the old austin/jericho ones, yours. All good stuff.
@@ComicBookGuy420worst... comment... ever...
To be fair to Stevie, he was a main eventer in the story mode for WWF No Mercy on N64.
Stevie is the most level headed, polite, intelligent wrestling RUclipsr. I fucking love this dude, mega over
Well written and accurate.
I agree 100%!
Right to Censor was one of the most hated groups in the Attitude era Stevie was the head of that and he deserves credit for being a top heel.
I’m with Stevie on this one. I love Stevie and Cody both. When I watched the interview with Cody and CVV, I laughed. I didn’t take it as Cody being salty or mean or anything like that. I think the fact that Cody watches tells you a lot as well.
Word
Stevie looks like Adam Coles dad
Dad'am Cole? I love that guy!
Stevie is probably still in better shape than stickman Cole
I came to the comments to write this
@@davidblank420people still mash up names? 😂
Love Cole but even Stevie look like he would snap him in half.
I assume most will consider this the most boring request ever: but I'd be really interested to hear Stevie Richards discuss how a wrestler should navigate the profession socially. It's very obvious Richards has very good social skills and knows how to navigate a world full of politics where it's easy to take things personally. I notice Stevie doesn't and seems to want to get along with everyone. He's very socially astute and I suspect it helped him a great deal in his career.
Also, I'd REALLY like to hear Richards talk about having MENTAL TOUGHNESS in regards to navigating and working in the business. As someone else who recently listens to your show said to me, "Richards seems to have a real strong sense of self-preservation and mental toughness to be able to survive in the industry in the way he has."
This comment! 🤞I’d like to hear that too
Seconded!
@@j.g.michael3229- Another excellent point!
I'll do my best to answer for him - it is a rare thing to be both in the entertainment industry and have an ego that is undamaged by what other people think. Stevie has both. I have both. There are many who have both, and we are always successful. There's no specific strategy other than having genuine self esteem and value in what you do, because then you can have all your focus in what you are doing, you can know and promote exactly what you are doing, and completely ignore any drama and politics. The only drama and politics that will come is from people jealous you have the inner focus to do so - at which point you just keep trucking.
He has to know that you put him over plenty. You always give credit where credit is due and you only call out things that are legitimately bad/dangerous. You're also a lot kinder than other critics out there
Yeah I watch a few other wrestling podcasts. Stevie is a lot nicer than the majority if not all of them.
I think he was just joking around tbh
@@JoKiR90 Yeah he was probably being facetious. He's got a dry wit like that.
Much kinder than Corny, for example.
@LimaKiloRomeo even when Corny's trying to be nice, he can be very backhanded
I started watching WWE during the ruthless aggression era when I was a kid. I thought characters like Steve Richard’s, Al Snow, and Goldust were nobody’s because of their record but 20 plus years later I have greater appreciation for the mid card guys back then especially compared to today’s mid card roster.
I love it! Cody's gimmick in AEW was "The WWE Guy" lol That makes total sense.
@Bigboxlittlebox471 He is a strange cat isn't he? Something odd...
@@Bigboxlittlebox471hi Tony Khan! How are you doing with your 4 pilars that are going to drive your company into the future.
@@louiohey leave him alone! Everything over there is "GREAT" 😉
@@Bigboxlittlebox471 and wwe fans are eating it up and i cant understand why, hes not good on the mic, hes not impressive in the ring, his moveset relies more on his opponents to sell it rather than the move being impressive in itself. his finish has no impact, he is all look no substance. he has a great look and in inring/entrance gear though
@@Bigboxlittlebox471yeah but you forget... He's a nightmare. And American.
If Cody were to say, "Stevie is cool" nobody would have paid attention. But Cody said things in a way to bring attention to Stevie.
lmao sure
it draws attention when he puts people over like ddp and mjf . he could do a show and debate these guys instead of burying them fro a far .
@@antonycuff4512 He doesn’t have to debate them. He’s bigger than they’ll ever be and THEY are the ones steadily bringing him up. Be real.
I think you mean...Big Stevie Cool 💪🕶️
@@_Mista_X of course he is bigger than they will ever be because they are retired but he lowers himself by attacking them . if weren't for these past 3 years stardust would be at the level of a disco inferno and aew will never make the same impact as ecw .
Got to respect codys path as he turned himself from a wwe mid carder into a wwe champion and main event player,being part of the aew startup and early growth is also something to be commended
Cody's promos in the Ogogo feud cemented him as "the heel is thinks he's a face", and nothing he did afterwards contradicted this. It's as simple as that.
That was when the fanbase started to sour on him plus the complete separation of him from the bucks, kenny, and hangman
I remember that mixed baby promo being the tipping point as well
Agreed
And he tried to be too cute in his promos “my wife’s doing her weird thing…”
“Am I even in the elite anymore?” He was the only one in the ring…
“I was the first phone call, or the second, or the third (holds up 4 fingers)”
@secularbelt my favorite was when he backed out a golden shovel in his match with andrade and yelled, "I leaning into it"
"Scrub, jobber, lower card..."
Arn Anderson prefers the term "carpenter" becaus they're building a talent, a brand, a card, a feud, etc. And he counts himself as a "carpenter."
That carpenter is the only wrestler who ever pinned Hogan and Flair in back to back weeks.
@@jamelwright7524But there was also a time before then as well.
Stevie forgot Kurt Angle and Shelton Benjamin and Bret Hart. Those guys had very great wrestling background
Stu Hart would’ve stretched anybody. That grizzled old codger and his sons would cripple guys.
Yeah how did he forget Kurt ? The guy won a gold medal with a freaking broken neck !
If WWE was shoot fighting you'd have very boring boxers and kickboxers beat everyone up, it wouldn't be wrestling anymore. Unless you ban punches there's no way even the best wrestler would stand against someone who just hits hard.
@@MR.__GHe actually starts to say Kurt then stops and clarifies what he had said before then forgot to say Kurt again when going through the list. Kurt was definitely at the front of his mind when it comes to those types of pro rasslers.
Wrestlers are more dangerous than strikers. There's a reason there are more jiujitsu fighters and wrestlers than boxers in MMA.
Hi, Stevie, I'm currently going through wrestling training, had my day 1 training last week where I practiced bumps and rolls. I passed the bumps with flying colors first try and my trainers were impressed and I owe it to you, Maven, and other former WWE wrestlers for showing how to work in the business. Please keep up the analysis and information and God bless you, brother.
That’s awesome dude! I had my day one a few years ago and damn near gave myself a concussion because I can’t keep my chin tucked. I can’t wait to see your first match one day. Good luck to you brother.
You're welcome
How's your bumping & feeding?
Don't let your head get too big. It was only 1 single day.
I only say this because the less hyped up on yourself you get right now the less devastating it will feel when they inevitably grind your ass into the dirt, and they will literally no matter how good you are or aren't. Cuz part of the process is grinding your ass into dirt THEN building you back up.
Basically assume you're the worst pro wrestler ever until you get to the end or get towards the end of your training. You'll be much more of a sponge that way.
Cody in AEW was so over. Then he said he would never go after the AEW championship when he lost to Jericho. The fan base wanted him to turn heel so he would go after the title.
it WAS brandy. because he forced her in everything and nobody really wanted to see/hear her.
many wrestler can't take criticism, Stevie Richards was just giving more of a sports channel approach to wrestling that's all
I just feel that Cody comes off as a natural heel. The handsome blonde guy that wears suits and sounds condescending. He has an heir of “I’m perfect”. That’s what made his heel run so perfect for him on the independents. I think it began to wear on AEW fans. He was John Cena 2.0.
Yes! But in WEE Cena was very needed and here we are enjoying!
Very true
AEW fans, being the good leftists that they are, have such a strong desire to be counter cultural hipsters that it means any clean cut no frills all american good guy can NOT be over with them.
I agree with that 2
Yeah, I like Cody, and wasn’t as bothered by his AEW face run as others, but it just felt like it was so perfectly set up for him to go heel and do a very interesting “heel who thinks he is the hero” gimmick. I still hope he pulls that off in WWE and doesn’t go the Cena route of wearing out his welcome as a face
Weird that when Stevie made that comment about "if wrestling was real it would just be Brock, Bob Holly, Ken Shamrock...." that he completely forgot Angle. Kurt was the most legitimate real wrestler to enter the business
Cap Kurt couldn’t fight lol that’s why
@@MrDuckman0852 angle was actually in the Olympics tho. In wrestling
He was just naming a few people. Don't think he skipped him as a dig or anything. But Kurt also has less actual fighting experience as the others he named. Olympic style wrestling has a very specific set of rules that wouldn't apply.
Also this list is mark's idea of tough guys, like come on, seriously Undertaker and some MMA guys? XD No, in shoot fighting you'd have bulldozers like Mike Tyson or Usyk destroy everyone. There's a reason Brawl for All was such a failure - nobody who marks thought would win did.
@@KasumiRINA if you think the undertaker can't actually fight all I can say is challenge him. When he laughs at you make sure to punch him as hard as you can in face.
This is an extremely humble take from the guy who won the main event of WrestleMania XX at MSG against Shawn Michaels and Triple H for WWE World Heavyweight Championship.
What about being in the main event of WrestleMania 2000 with Triple H, Rock and Mick Foley after you replaced Big Show?
Doing this all AFTER you broke your neck? Simply incredible!
Stevie’s such a good guy for putting over Orton for his first chip too!
Anyone remember when he returned and hit Cena with 16 German suplexes?
Unfunny
The word you guys were looking for is "Codyverse." Cody should have been their long term champion. Instead he took himself out of that, and then booked his own stuff that was separated from everything else.
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There’s something about the Rhodes family. Maybe it’s their upbringing, maybe their passion for wrestling,maybe it’s part genetic, maybe something else but these guys are built different and can work any card. Dustin managed to get a ridiculous gimmick over! ❤
I think it comes down to Dusty. Something about Dusty specifically. Cuz he had a very prominent hand in Dustin's career up to the point where he went to WWF and became Goldust. And then Cody was raised from birth by Dusty who also guided him into the business and was pretty much behind him all the way up to his death, and I don't think it was too long after that when Cody was sacked by WWE and he went on his big indie & NJPW excursion that led to the creation of AEW and then his return to WWE in his current top star form.
He didnt work in AEW because alot of the storylines were corny and he should have been AEW champion
Yeah one the biggest mistakes aew made early was not making legacy to their top title .
May your schedules always align. Because this show needs to NEVER go away.
I remember exactly when Cody started getting booed.
1) Cody had a match that had a stipulation where if he lost, Cody would never compete for the World Title again. He lost and honored that but when AEW finally created a midcard title, immediately Cody was the first person to hold it. Fans saw this as a loophole to get a championship on him.
2) Next Brodie Lee puts Cody on the shelf, and the Dark Order were beating up every friend and family member that Cody had in AEW. They did this every week while Cody was out. Cody's family was fighting for him while he was gone and losing the battle every week. And then finally AEW announced that Cody was back and that he was finally going to address where he's been the whole time. And when AEW finally air the anticipated vignette...It's Cody, promoting some game show that he was away doing.
Everyone realized that while Cody's friends and family were fighting for him, Cody wasn't there solely because he was away filming a tv show. So AEW admitted that he wasn't on the shelf, he wasn't mentally defeated and trying to overcome it, he was written off to film another tv show. And that rubbed everyone the wrong way.
3) I remember why the boo's lasted long after this. He would wear expensive watches and suits, and let the crowd know they were expensive. He would use big words and acknowledge that the crowd might not know what they meant. His cadence of speaking even seemed heelish. And then he did the one thing that fans feared.
4) He became John Cena 2.0, expect not in the good way. The good way, that's what he's doing in WWE right now. The 'not good' way is what he was doing in AEW, acknowledging the negative crowd reaction in interviews but flat out refusing to turn heel and ignoring the negative crowd reactions in the live arenas every week. He even cut a promo, while being booed, saying that despite what anyone thinks of him, he would never turn heel.
Because Cena never turned, during a decade of fans thinking that WWE didn't listen to them, that's what AEW fans feared was going to happen to them. They feared that this meant that AEW were going to ignore the fans, just like WWE and that Cody was turning into Super Cena 2.0
This comment should get pinned tbh , I started watching AEW in 2021 and quickly understood why the fans are booing Cody.
@@chikowashere I will say this comment has a fairly accurate recounting of history, and is put together extremely well.
Though to be sure we’re giving full context, Cody has since claimed that part of the Super Cena 2.0 thing he was doing was purposeful. The whole thing of him cutting a promo about not turning heel, was his attempt at being “meta” and effectively announcing that he is a heel by saying he will never be a heel. Trying to blur the lines and lean into his divisive status by NOT allowing the fans to alter his presentation.
Cody has basically acknowledged that this was an ambitious concept that didn’t work out very well in execution. In my opinion, I can see it and I actually like the idea, but AEW simply isn’t a place that can pull off a high concept story like that. They don’t have anyone who knows how to polish ideas and present them in a way that’s mostly digestible for the audience though still slick enough to slide it past you if you’re not fully engaged.
@@pearcemark2 Good point, but it also would have taken more time to develop the "meta" tweener character to get it to work. By the time he started playing with this idea his contract was up with AEW, and once he couldn't come to new terms with TK and WWE was willing to offer him what he wanted, he was out of there.
Nah. The Cody vs Ogogo feud did him in. The stuff you mentioned hurt his appeal, but he bounced back. Crowd was still there for him mostly. But when he had a piss poor feud with one of his own wrestling students - who was NOT tv ready (making it obvious that this was to get cody's student over). And as it was failing he kept looking for a spin it. First it was master vs student, then it was US vs UK for some reason. Then it had weord tone deaf racial undertones as Cody bragged about having a mixed race child and acted like he was this civil rights champion - leading to the ridiculoua memes of him with MLK and Rosa Parks. Or the 'Cody Raheem Rhodes' song on youtube.
This was when people hated on Cody more openly. And then he gets taken out by Malakai. Films his show. Obviously repeating the Brody deal. And he cuts that dumb promo where hes about to leave his boots in the ring and Arn has a senior moment and rambles excessively about guns. Only for Cody to win the feud and move on AGAIN
Ok by similar logic LA Knight is and should 100% be a heel, yet there was this groundswell of "we like this guy" or a crowd that misses chanting yes that can now repeat YEAH out of nowhere....I've never liked him and continually baffled by the face support...he's a loudmouth egomaniacal asshole...he's about as convincing a face to me as the goddamn Miz.
Hey Stevie, I just want to tell you that I’m glad that you didn’t give up on this RUclips thing. I remember that you used to review electronics around 2016-2019 with two other dudes. I don’t really remember everything I used to watch before the pandemic but I know you wouldn’t get enough views. I think you used to get 1k views or less and I don’t know why I used to watch your 1 hour+ videos because I only saw you perform on smackdown in 2004 or 2005 but I was still entertained. I didn’t watch wcw or ecw because they were gone by the time I started watching wrestling. Well, anyways I’m glad you didn’t give up, it was tough to get views or go viral before the pandemic and I think you used to have a different channel too, but again I’m glad things are working out now.
Stevie, you were always more than a jobber to anyone who paid attention. You were an amazing worker!
You missed out Steve ma fuggin Blackman 😅
That’s because Blackman had to fight robot monsters and save the world
If it was real, Steve would have been it. it would have been Sagat from street fighter. We'd still be waiting for "Ryu" to come take down the master
I'm with Cody Rhodes but I'm also with this podcast. Stevie seems like he's being honest and trying his best to give us a good show. Idc if he was a "jobber" as ppl put it. He has a great perspective of the business and great intentions I think.
Dusty was a multiple time NWA champion. But it's criminal Vince never gave him a run. Dustin should have an ROH run. The guy is so good.
Mr Richards, the only thing you have to be concerned with is staying true to your beliefs. State your business, take care of your business, and mind your business. Everything else will fall into place. Believe Me, BROTHER!
If Taker (?) is included because he’s a) retired now and b) I don’t think he had a background in amateur wrestling anyway, then where the hell was Kurt Angle (!!), the Steiner brothers and Bret and Owen Hart on that list???
oh, I don't know, maybe it's because the show is unscripted and he was saying it off the cuff and they slipped his mind? Seriously man it's not worth getting offended over
Taker did some boxing& bouncing, plus has reach.
@@sstrykert a non-shoot fighter would lose against a trained fighter 99% of the time, reach he damned. A lightweight boxer would generally defeat even the heaviest WWE guys in a shoot fight... This is like competing in cooking with a pro chef, you just don't
@@KasumiRINA I can 75% agree, the dismal performance of CM Punk in UFC highlights that, if the person had no wrestling in their background. The older pro wrestlers such as Danny Hodge, Iron Sheik(Olympian), Lou Thesz, or even a Billy Robinson, with enough time to build up their striking game, might have had a chance, then factor in that reach referenced. Today most pro wrestlers even despite the rise of grappling's popularity are still from folks who barely make frosh soph or j.v. wrestling teams. If the Steiners, when younger knew how to box, look out!
I kind of disagree with Stevie here. Cody was very over for the first couple of years in AEW. It wasn't until after the Brodie Lee program where the wheels started to fall off and he had that terrible feud with Anthony Agogo.
Protecting america and the world’s first interracial baby
The Codyverse didn’t help either. It’s showed the elite wasn’t on the same page
Cody is too woke
Both of the examples you used happened in year 2. That would make Rhodes over for one year max.
@@JOBdOut The Agogo thing happened in 2021. He was doing well in 2019 and 2020 so he was over for 2 out of 3 years he was with the company.
Stevie, not sure you read all the comments but I wanted to say that as a kid that did get to catch at least the tail end of the bwo stuff that I was always a big fan and rooted for you to get more time in the sun! Love the videos keep up the great work
1. Lance Storm
2. Shawn Michaels
3. Stevie Richards
Top 3 Super Kicks ever.
Chris Adams says hello. He laterally named it the Superkick. Even Michaels said his was the best.
@@doubles7533 Can the man have his opinion?
@@pearcemark2In the year 2024, no. That’s not allowed
Cody was booed in AEW because he overexposed his wife and friends on TV the point it became known as the Codyverse. He's also a natural heel especially so to non-WWE fans with his suits and whole motivation being to get over to go back, but he never has wanted to embrace that.
Going back to WWE and having the finish the story angle took heat off him but he's still a perfect heel. He could still have WWE fans turn on him if he refuses to turn once the wind comes out of the sails from this run as the leaving AEW and finishing the story shine will be gone.
Cody and WWE are like Homelander and Vought.
Bro, first Philly is proud of you and Meanie no matter where you were on the card.
Cody would've turned heel and the fans would've started cheering him. They were cheering him when he would take digs at WWE. I think it definitely goes back to the fact he was never accepted as a "BTE" guy. I think people who were riding with the Bullet Club pre-Cody felt that maybe Cody was trying to ride their coattails on the indies, just from what I had read online. BC was basically let's use everything about the nWo except for the root of the group's formation. Cody fit that mantra more than anyone in the stable but again, I think there were a lot of anti-WWE fans who looked at him as an outsider and never truly gave him his props.
When Cody said “wrestle”, you know what he was talking about. Don’t act like he was talking about ‘shooting’.
I found Stevie to be more entertaining than Cody. So does that mean "wrestle"?
In my opinion, Cody was too generous. I get he didn't want to open up himself to criticisms about booking himself as the champion, but him booking himself to never challenge for the world title was a big misstep. After that, he wanted to be the star maker, which is an awesome role, but he really needed to assert himself as a force within the ring. The final mail, as I see it, was the melodramatic presentation. From the "Cody-vator" entrance to leaving his boots in the ring, etc, and it got to be just too saccharine.
You can clearly see in Stevie's eyes how proud he is of Cody! It just feels good!
The starkest contrast between AEW and WWE's presentation of talent lies in their preparedness for TV. As Bubba Ray observed on his podcast, those who have thrived in WWE and are now with the other brand stand out because they know how to maximize their airtime. MJF is an exception, but even he benefited from his feud with CM Punk in learning how to conduct himself effectively on TV.
I have to say. I always rated Stevie as a worker and he should've been given a push. Love his analysis video and his breakdowns are brilliant. Also, totally agree Dustin for me is the most underrated wrestler of the 90s and should've gotten the gold
Early 90s WCW Dustin was 🔥🔥🔥
Of course, Goldust was incredible.
I agree with ya 100
Cody's look is manga heel
Blonde hair, his outfits in public and on the ramp.
He looks like homelander
Blond hair and great ring gear makes you a heel now? Wow
@@reeseangle9621which is funny because before Homelander was a household name, Cody would have been captain America.
@@reeseangle9621 No dude he looks like geese Howard from fatal fury he has a very corporate heel look
I'm not saying it's a bad thing
Id give anything to have some of you watch something other than super heroes or harry potter. Absolute phillistines
@@DarranKern I've been a wrestling fan since I was 4
I'm 50 years old
If you mute and watch you can still tell Stevie oozes charisma.
If that was true he would have had a bigger push
That never came off on tv tho sadly. Even when he had complete creative freedom in TNA, he still lacked charisma.
@@d.52555 Nah his tna return was more centered towards Raven
Vince proved you wrong with AJ Styles. AJ was a TNA guy, Vince signed him, and then proceeded to push AJ to the moon as a World Champion. Now that may've been an exception, but still an exception that proves you wrong. WAY BEFORE Cody was ever back in the WWE too.
He just talks about his experience. He believes it too much. Kurt Angle came from other fucking world and he was straight to the top. Paul Heyman then? RVD? Dean Ambrose? Come on, if it worked for the bussiness, the pervert guy was making the push.
You guys don't get it either. It's not about aew being indirific like so many e-fans think, We did not want to see Cody, Roman Reigns himself after all those years of Roman just running through everybody. If you go back and watch that Cody Rhodes and Dustin Rhodes match, he was loved. We wanted a Cody and Dustin tag team run and Cody spoke out against it in multiple press conferences and then proceeds to send himself on an undefeated streak only losing to drop the tnt title just to pick it back up two more times. One bring Brodie Lee and then continues said undefeated streak after Brodie until Sammie then he's out. Like what in the actual fuck...? We wanted him to hold tag team gold with his brother and do something in his career with his brother like they talked about back in WWE but Cody was too focused on himself and was beating newer talent in aew like Malaika. The boos slowly started as he just racked up wins one after another over EVERYONE. We were tired of seeing it with Roman for years and not Cody.
Point of the story was you had to watch aew to understand and most people that I hear talk about this with a microphone on RUclips or tiktok obviously didn't watch the program very much or at all.
Jake the snake, Rick rude, million dollar man, and Mr perfect would have been great world champs. I'm sure I'm missing some people but it would have been great
Best active Wrestler, best active booker - DUSTY RHODES!!! and COWBOY BILL WATTS IN MID SOUTH. Flair's best paydays were in Mid-South, especially the Louisiana Superdome.
Cody Rhodes probably reveres Stevie Richards as the legend he is.
Cody is very much a “respect the legends” guy.
I'm a fan of stevie's stuff but I wouldn't call him a legend
@@petebagwell6666Quiet down.
@@AlfredFJones1776 Delusional AF lmao.
@@AlfredFJones1776 Define “legend”? Stevie seems to be a great guy, work was always solid, was involved in some really good stuff at different times in wrestling……but legend?
It’s kind of like saying “The legendary Tristan Thompson”. I mean yeah he was on a championship team once but he was scoring 6 points a game. He played a role.
Stevie is not a legend, stop watering that word down
Stevie vs cody at mania is about to go hard and we can look back to this video was the start of the feud lol
Stevie, you say perception is reality, but you are assuming what fans perception is about you. Maybe ask us what our perception is instead of telling us. To me you were always one of the great workers. You made everyone who worked with you look better. A Dolph Ziggler type. Dolph might have never really gotten over with management, but like you, the fans saw his worth. Stop selling yourself so short.
If wrestling talent mattered in pro wrestling Dynamite Kidd would be Hulk Hogan on Mt Rushmore.
Doesn't matter if you were popular or not you still busted your ass for the company . You got in that ring and wrestled you damn right have the right to voice your opinion.
I'll take the opinion of someone like Stevie over many of the "big stars" There were plenty of people out there who got pushed into the top spot because of their look or a gimick but who had no real skill in the ring
@@tullyDT exactly just like gold dust , Stevie said he should of been champion. I totally agree with that , gold dust was such a hard worker and great gimmick then they wasted it by making him do that tourette syndrome crap .
I would say the fact that Stevie was a jobber probably makes his opinion even more valid. He made his entire career on getting other people over and not hurting them. Show me a job guy that injures somebody and I'll show you somebody standing in an unemployment line lol.
Cody was a midcarder before he dyed his hair blonde and started looking like a Bladerunner Replicant. Stevie looks like every AEW jobber's vegetarian uncle. Stevie could have been the greatest wrestler of all time and he still would have been a jobber. He made the most of what God blessed him with.
I get what you are saying but I personally think someone that's never been to the top or "the guy" doesn't really have any room to speak on the top people or the guy. Even if they were political to get there, that just means they played the game better.
I'll take Stevies opinion over someone like Oldberg any day
Fragile minds of people today. Want all the praise and cannot take criticism
You're reading too much into it.
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6:49 Cody with the Batman reference regarding his AEW departure HE IS THE VILLAIN THAT GOTHAM NEEDS lol 😂 Jesus
Cody loves ya brother lol gotta love the new 75 minute workout plug. Love the content Big Stevie Cool
Cody was hated by the AEW crowd because he kept ignoring the natural progression of his character. The story should have been him turning heel after losing to MJF that would have led to a double turn with MJF at the time. He came off as "too good" to turn heel and it burned him bad with the audience.
Stevie is an easy target. I know Undertaker is a pretty diplomatic guy, but if he called Cody "a garbage wrestler" for an hour on his podcast, would Cody call him out on it?
Stevie never called Cody a garbage wrestler though, nor will undertaker ever.
@@1KQ_, I wasn't being literal. It was a hypothetical example.
@@MichaelMartin-qe5ye a silly one at that, Cody is back home in the big leagues 😍
@@1KQ_, well, I tried to make it obvious so there wouldn't be any idiots that misunderstood - but there's always one.
@@MichaelMartin-qe5ye repeat yourself a 3rd time bud, might finally hammer that amazing point home LMAO
Cody's character just didn't make sense during the Ogogo feud. He was trying to represent the common man, to represent the American folk, while wearing suit and tie, having elaborate gear and entrances (God, that epic prelude theme song...) and just, let's be honest, trying to be Triple H-esque, but it all made sense for Triple H because he was a heel, the King of Kings, he was supposed to be presented as greater than just a man, but Cody should look like the opposite of that.
Bro that’s one Feud. You didn’t think American men wear suits? Like what’s wrong with you people
@@reeseangle9621 one feud is more than enough to ruin a wrestler for the audience, specially since Cody dealed with the backlash terribly.
And no, the average American man doesn't walk around in suits.
Haku would have been champ if it were real street fights. Seriously though, at the time AEW was much closer in ratings. I never thought Cody wasn’t going to have the rocket put on him. To show the younger wrestlers what WWE could do for them. And it gave them a feel for what’s going on in AEW at that time.
Stevie I always felt was underrated. He had a great look and positive look on wrestling even being used the way he was. He had a lot of potential and was overlooked alot.
"If the business were real, it would be like Brock, Ken Shamrock, Dan Severn, maybe taker... Billy Gunn, Bob Holly"
Stevie, i'll have you know, i would pay a lot of money to watch this episode of raw underground. Especially if it was all these guys in their primes.
You did what 99% of us can’t do, don’t stress the 1% that made it further. Stevie is an absolute beast in this format and that’s why you’re mentioned. Lift your head legend
Yeah, Cody is a massive smart ass. WWE just put out a video where he interviews R-Truth and he's just tearing into him the whole time. You gave a good take here, Stevie.
When you mentioned if the business were real and listed wrestlers who could actually fight, gotta throw Matt Riddle in there. Riddle is seriously legit
Cody's promo's in AEW during his final year were really preachy and super cringy. That's why people hated him. The one where he talks about his daughter being born and how it somehow ended racism was the biggest culprit.
You aren't wrong you made ur opinion based on vince being in charge and u were right the year everybody thought cody would win title at wrestlemania vince said no. He didnt win it until vince left and HHH was in charge
If La knight and Cody was to Feud right now LA knight would be more over than he is.. if Roman comes back as a face its a wrap for cody as the top babyface on smackdown... Unless him and Orton can tell a better story.
The fans turned on Cody because he came across as a bit smug and pompous and because of all the blatant Hollywood stuff ... the reality show, the talk of workshopping and acting classes and such, plus Brandi is a heel through and through. Cody does seem a little salty about criticism - I don't think the DI stuff is a complete work and there was a whiff of the 'ROCKY! ROCKY! ROCKY! era with the way the announcers constantly kissed his arse and had him pushed as a superhero. Cody's a good all-round talent though and I think he's found his real home in WWE. I agree about him seeming bigger than AEW in his all-round presentation; my first experience of AEW was Cody's entrance at the beginning of Dynamite and everything seemed like a step-down after that, particularly Moxley doing a one-eye gimmick and making everything look super sloppy and the Bucks' intolerable gurning during their entrance, trying to look badass and failing miserably
its not that he didnt look like an AEW talent he was booking himself and his wife in very forced angles
A Cody knock on Stevie Richards is like a Mick Foley burial of Al Snow. If anyone thinks it's vicious and MEAN, they're missing the point.
Speaking of the disconnect between you IRL and Right to Censor, I didn't realise you were the RtC ringleader until I'd watched like 10 episodes of yours (I'm a new fan, great stuff)! I HATED you!!! You were awesome.
Cody saw that many fans were getting tired of "edgy " type faces. A revamp of the "vanilla face", who nobody was trying, was overdue. That was never gonna work in AEW(plus, that stupid neck tattoo), but he stuck to his guns and took it to where it WOULD work. I think he'll end up back in AEW though.
What's Cody's beef with Stevie?
Didn’t like any sort of criticism it seems.
Can't handle criticism
He said on his podcast with Chris van vliet that Stevie is one of these wrestlers online who talks about how wrestlers don't wrestle properly anymore.
@@theboxingboy7422 lol that's it? From Cody's tone I assumed something happened backstage between them.
@@vileluca You’re a Godless weirdo mook😒
Can any of these guys take even the slightest bit of criticism ffs? Stevie goes out of his way to be polite and is almost too apologetic about giving any criticism. He focuses on safety first and foremost and is beyond respectful. What a bullshit clown comment from Rhodes.
Stevie I'm loving this show format. You guys are doing great work.
I commented on Chris's channel when I heard Cody make that comment. I have never heard Stevie be disrespectful toward anyone. Stevie is probably the most respectful of any of the retired wrestlers that have podcasts. Stevie simply points out the obvious mistakes, but he also points out when something is done right. I was surprised when Cody said that.
On Vince making an example out of Cody that is exactly why Roman won at Vince's last Wrestlemania. Had Vince not been pushed out not long after that WM without a doubt we would have gotten Roman v Rock as well.
Lame to not remember Kurt angle
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He had the crowd where he wanted them in AEW. He was going for the super Cena babyface hated from the crowd. He was a heel to the fans because he was the squeaky clean babyface AEW currently lacks.
That’s a detailed I’ve never really paid attention to before, but yeah, the whole Rhodes family can make ANY gimmick work if they wanted to.
Always appreciate the humility from you brother. Doesn’t come off as disingenuous, just keep being you man. Do the right thing and try your damndest to be a good person. I believe if you are able to successfully do those two things, you are all set. Thanks for the content, we enjoy hearing your takes and opinions regardless of your level on the card. You made it to the dance, and are now sharing your experiences and insights. That’s what it’s about at the end of the day.
Cody’s whole plan was to go back to WWE anyways and TK got pissed and basically held stuff over Cody’s head. When TK made an Interm TNT champ after Cody was only gone for 2 weeks it was the beginning of the end.
Cody Rhodes vs Stevie Richards. Book it Triple H
I do wonder if Nick Khan at that time convinced Vince that he can’t pull that shit anymore of constantly burying talent just because they come from another company
Bro, we LOVED Cody we just didn’t want him to be this beacon of light. And WWE fans are realizing that too. He’s just a better heal
I think Stevie has the best, most level headed takes of anyone and he nailed the reason for why he was booed in AEW and it was Brandi. Everyone knew that at the time and also the over presentation with his entrances and suits, seemed like he treated himself as a bigger deal than anyone else but other than that he had great matches and the average fan wanted to like him
Mr. Richards I just have to say how much respect and love I have for you. When I first became a wrestling fan you were the first person in the industry I ever loathed (on screen only of course). The Right to Censor were the first heel faction I experienced and holy heckins did you accomplish your goal with that character. That entrance music (if you can call it music) was pure rubbish but I’d be a liar if I said it didn’t still pop into my head every time I see that red circle with a line through it. I know I’m just a random RUclips commenter but I just want you to know you hold a special spot in this marks heart.
I say this everytime I watch AEW with friends - AEW is not family entertainment. And this is evident with the crowds, it’s all middle aged males, some women, and very few kids. Watch WWE programming, there are families in the crowd. And Cody appeals to those families - the kids love him, therefore the parents shell out for merch and tickets. They get to enjoy him with their children. AEW has a long way to go in understanding the possibilities of their market.
Steve has always done great jobs. I've seen and have been impressed by the bumps he took and his approach to doing the job he was put to. He does deserve some credit and has contributed.
7:43 it’s not that he left it’s when he left. When he left fans were not behind him I don’t think his heart was in it after that. He booked himself into a corner.
Absolutely 💯...that whole I'll never go for the World Championship was dumb.
It's refreshing to listen to Stevie
Cody is always working and he never lets the truth get in the way of humour.
I would love to see a show with Stevie and Dutch together.
Booker T had a exceptional career in WWE thought, its just storyline.
It's weird people, and even Stevie, keep referring to him as a 'jobber' lately. I never thought of him any less respectfully than any other Attitude era star.
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I wasn't *completely* worried about how Cody would be treated once he returned given how WWE treated AJ Styles as such a big deal.
Oh, wait. They did do the thing where they tried to belittle AJ at first with the pitbull thing, but fortunately it didn't work.