Maybe the most concise, abbreviated tutorial I've ever seen. Honestly I learned more in 4:09 than I have watching maybe 2-dozen other forehand tutorials.
Thank you, young Man! This video is a huge help. I went out to the front yard after watching this video and literally throwing the best forehands consistently, ever! Trust me, there were some stinkers, but if I can just get consistent throwing forehand’s 200-250 feet that will help my game tremendously.
newbie here, Watched your video twice, and went out to throw, after 10 throws I was doing a decent job. Forehand is my fav throw now. Thanks for a great tutorial!!
Thank you for taking your time to show us beginners the forehand. This was short, to the point and very instructive. Do you use the same grips, etc for mid-range and putting? If not, perhaps future videos?
I started playing disc golf around a year and a half ago. I filtered in a out what to throw and honestly MVP has the best plastic to throw forehand. Appreciate this video. I know its like 6 years old but still helpful
Nice video man! it's hard to find a good disc golf instruction video. Most people just aren't good at teaching, but you got it down bro. And the ease of it shows your experience.
Yeah man, whats up?? Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to do this video if ur still around?? Was a difference maker for me rgt away!! Its magical!! Thanks again for trying to pass along a little knowledge!!
Hey! Started with the sport for real a few weeks ago and to this point I couldn't throw a straight forehand over 5 meters. Then I saw your vid and got out and threw three discs with your technic and they were all perfect. Thanks man!
Watched this several months ago (started playing early summer), and it's the main reason I can throw as far as I can now. great vid man. Throw them discs in the description!
I just learned how to throw the forehand thanks to this video. Took several weeks of practice. Another key is to throw relaxed. I still need to work on generating power, but I now can throw the shot regularly.
Thank you for a great video. Short, simple and to the point. I don't throw forehand because all it does is go about 80 feet and flutter while my backhand is pretty strong. Today I practiced with your technique and without using a run up, was able to get most of my throws between 150 and 200 feet. Not great, but a big improvement. I'll practice more, then incorporate your x-step technique.
Nailed it! Your the only one I've seen that explains the index finger/thumb pinched together. Last night a major AHA moment when I realize it. I used to just bury the disc in the web and then lay the thumb on the plate and push down. I had no contact of the thumb with the index finger, or if I did , it was just on the edge of the index finger. You need the index finger tip and thumb touching for a "1 pivot point" release. I now throw without OAT!! I'm floored at how well I can throw. I use the stack grip like Paul McBeth. Just my preference, but the index and thumb are pinched. I see how you can throw over 300ft now. I can get a TL3 to about 290ft without a run up. Crazy. All the videos showing FH are people showing their grip but they have opaque discs. They can't get the pinch idea through to us. You have a translucent MVP. I have translucent Champion mold and I saw how awful my thumb placement was. Great video and I hope other can see that all important index/ thumb pinch!!
after 20 years of only having a backhand, this video gives me the info i need to start getting a forehand shot! thanks! Every time i try to forehand, i have no control.. turns out my grip, and approach suck lol
Soooo before this video, I was doing this all wrong, getting no distance, disc was flapping like a bird, just real ugly. After this video perfectly smooth, fairly accurate and almost as consistent as my backhand. I feel like I have 25 new discs in my bag now that I can throw flicks. Thank you!!!
Nice tutorial! I really like how you broke it down, and I have learned a few things about myself in the process. I can get 300' from a standing flick fairly consistently. Anywhere from 350-420+ with 2 steps. I can see adopting some of your techniques in certain situations, and have used your methods and differing methods at different times. The differences are: Technique: Grip - Stack the index finger on top of the middle finger, which some refer to as "behind it". This will increase inconsistency, but gets max power. Mechanics - I keep my elbow in tight as well, and try to keep my hand at the same height as my elbow at all times. I find that the snap feels like throwing a ball sidearm, and the only way I can describe it is: keeping my middle finger completely straight, and trying to have my thumb touch the first knuckle (makes the hand bend a little bit). I also keep my middle finger pointed slightly below parallel with the ground, and the farther you dip it down, the more hyzer. Your mechanics seem to dip the disc down while launching off the back foot, and any motion spent moving the disc up/down is energy not spent powering it forwards. Try locking your elbow at 90+ degrees before the throw, so you don't raise your forearm during the x-step. I bet you will experience more anhyzer, and here's why: Since your current motion pulls the disc down at the end, it forces the "wing" down even if your grip dictates an anhyzer trajectory. These competing forces cancel out, and you get a nice straight trajectory. Remove the downward motion, and that unconscious anhyzer grip you've been using will become apparent. If you can adjust, you will see distance gains, and more flight path options :) Footwork - Same, standing for control, x-step for maxx powa. Strategy: I'm not sure these are different from your strategy, but if you're still reading... This throw is almost all snap, and snap causes the disc to flip. Lots of people have a hard time keeping the disc from turning over into an anhyzer roller. The other end of the spectrum is mechanics compensation like in this video. My strategy is to consider the "flat" flight of a flick to have a slightly hyzer release point, like a hyzerflip back hand. This means slightly tilting down the farthest away edge from your thumb. That's now neutral. Tilting farther down means hyzer, but tilting up means anhyzer. I take my other hand and put it flat on top of the disc, then practice holding the disc at whatever angle I choose while simulating the pull. I find it easier to hyzer with the grip in this tutorial (Pistol), and easier to anhyzer with my grip (The 2 Finger Blast). This works ok, as I usually anhyzer for open distance, and hyzer for control. The pistol grip has more control! Keep on chuckin'
Thanks, this made my day! I'll let you know if I get around to it, but I don't practice as much these days so I'm down to 300-350 with the lack of conditioning. Went from 2-5 rounds a week to 1 every 3 months :(
Most of the forehand power comes from the wrist. (Pop the wrist like you're popping a bullwhip. If you've never done that, get one. It's fun and it will help your disc golf forehand game big time.) I'm a Grandmaster and can standstill flick approaches to around 150 feet with no problem. I'm watching this video to try to get my drives from the tee from around 250 to over 300. The standstill forehand is easy. It's when movement is involved when it gets difficult.
I'm always amazed that in various sporting or physical activities how often it happens that when the technique is correct, the effort goes way down. I just started learning disc golf and my shoulder is really sore. But on some throws, it feels so smooth and so easy and the disc go right where I want. If I could only get that consistent, low stress, high efficiency throw I'd be way further along.
cool been thinking about trying out forehand throws, i grew up playing baseball so i naturally gravitated to throwing them as such in a tomahawk throw which i have gotten quite good at but i feel the need to diversify ma portfolio lol. whats sweet is i already employ a similar grip to your method so it shouldn't be to hard to make the switch
Great video, thanks! Want to get out to try it. My forehands usually flutter early, then tighten up, but I'm sure the flutter scrubs off a bunch of speed/distance. Any thoughts on how to correct that?
That flutter is from OATs (over axis torque) which can be helped if you practice smoother releases. It’s not a bad thing to have oats, but you can practice flicking a putter around the yard/field and you’ll be able to control every flick much better, leading to less flutter from your release.
@@nathankdiscgolf8816: Cool, thanks for the advice! I'm looking forward to trying some of your tips. I'm new to the game, and haven't spent any time practicing forehands so far, but there are two holes where I play that I give it a shot that usually looks a wounded duck followed by a hyzering crash 😵💫
Thanks for making this video. I really like how you break down the mechanics. For those standstill throws with putters, what's a good distance to try to build up to? 250 feet (or more)?
taotefling That's probably a goal to shoot for. I would stress having more control and comfort with anything sub 200. That way you can feel comfortable with flicking a putter for any upshot that you come across!
What differences do you see in your group vs other stacked grips? I use the same grip you do but I've noticed a lot of people use the two finger stacked grip.
With the off set grip, I feel I have more stability while holding the disc. Your fingers cover more surface area off set which helps with accuracy on the release
nice video! I think I have to work a lot on my wrist when releasing the sidearm...I seem to want to turn a lot of discs over, like an anhyzer, instead of a slight hyzer or flat, when I throw sidearm
This is a great video to teach forehands! The one thing that I would say to beginners is that there's a multitude of different grips that all work well so if this grip doesn't feel right it's okay. And as a beginner I would DEFINITELY have a slower run up and x-step than this guy at least until you figure things out a little better
When I first started playing disc golf a year-and-a-half ago I threw nothing but fore hands and I couldn't even throw a backhand now it's reverse! Everytime I try to throw a forehand I got a lot of wobble and a lot of hyzer. Ill try more. Thanks for the video!
@nathankdiscgolf thanks for the video. Can you recommend a disc to throw forehand that doesn't trail off to the right at the end? (I am really new to this. I've gone out maybe 4 or 5 times.)
krillansavillan I to throw the disc as flash as possible. That way I only have to adjust the speed and disc rotation to get the flight I want. Consistency is key!
Far be it for me to mention those socks, because that’s what you want me to do. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I just started working on a side arm after two years of playing.
I cant throw a disc with a finger on the inside, I grip the side of the disc, a pinch so to speak, reduces power maybe, but its the only way I can throw forehand
Jungle Skunk For the vast majority of people, the FH is a utility shot, for when you need to finish to the right, or to bend it around a tree or hazard with a big right hyzer. (Those examples for RHFH of course) At lest that’s how I treat it...I’ve got straight flight covered with my backhand throw. So fading right is...kind of the point here? 🤷🏻♂️😆
Ok, I've watched this 50 or so times, copied the grip, kept the elbo in, rotated my hips and it comes out like a wounded duck flopping around and goes 200ft if I'm lucky.
Maybe the most concise, abbreviated tutorial I've ever seen. Honestly I learned more in 4:09 than I have watching maybe 2-dozen other forehand tutorials.
Thank you, young Man! This video is a huge help. I went out to the front yard after watching this video and literally throwing the best forehands consistently, ever! Trust me, there were some stinkers, but if I can just get consistent throwing forehand’s 200-250 feet that will help my game tremendously.
Probably the most detailed and easy to grasp tutorial. Use to do 2 fingers tucked in but I'm way more consistent with the off set grip, thanks!
newbie here, Watched your video twice, and went out to throw, after 10 throws I was doing a decent job. Forehand is my fav throw now. Thanks for a great tutorial!!
Been watching forehand videos for almost an hour and finally one that makes sense!!! Great video man
One of the best FH tutorials I've seen.
Thank you for taking your time to show us beginners the forehand. This was short, to the point and very instructive. Do you use the same grips, etc for mid-range and putting? If not, perhaps future videos?
This may be my favorite flick video. Makes a lot of sense, and it's simple.
Charles Cunningham I appreciate the love!
@@nathankdiscgolf8816 truly. I'm new to the sport but I'm totally addicted.
I started playing disc golf around a year and a half ago. I filtered in a out what to throw and honestly MVP has the best plastic to throw forehand. Appreciate this video. I know its like 6 years old but still helpful
Glad it’s still helping folks still to this day!
Nice video man! it's hard to find a good disc golf instruction video. Most people just aren't good at teaching, but you got it down bro. And the ease of it shows your experience.
Yeah man, whats up?? Just wanted to thank you for taking the time to do this video if ur still around?? Was a difference maker for me rgt away!! Its magical!! Thanks again for trying to pass along a little knowledge!!
Finally - concise, clear and helpful. Thanks for posting.
Rob Van Wyck Thanks for the feedback!
Hey! Started with the sport for real a few weeks ago and to this point I couldn't throw a straight forehand over 5 meters. Then I saw your vid and got out and threw three discs with your technic and they were all perfect. Thanks man!
Oskar Elter awesome to hear!! Keep on discin'
Nathan K Disc Golf. Yeah man! Have you done a vid on hyzers and anhyzers and such stuff on your Chanel? Could really need that
Watched this several months ago (started playing early summer), and it's the main reason I can throw as far as I can now. great vid man. Throw them discs in the description!
Jeg Sesame Awesome! I really appreciate your feedback!
Jeg Sesame Awesome! I really appreciate your feedback!
I just learned how to throw the forehand thanks to this video. Took several weeks of practice. Another key is to throw relaxed. I still need to work on generating power, but I now can throw the shot regularly.
white deion glad to hear it!! Keep it up
Thank you for a great video. Short, simple and to the point. I don't throw forehand because all it does is go about 80 feet and flutter while my backhand is pretty strong. Today I practiced with your technique and without using a run up, was able to get most of my throws between 150 and 200 feet. Not great, but a big improvement. I'll practice more, then incorporate your x-step technique.
Abraham Lincoln love to hear it honest Abe
im 15, and i just started. Since I came from ultimate frisbee, i got a pretty solid forehand. It goes anywhere from 200-300 feet each time
Nailed it!
Your the only one I've seen that explains the index finger/thumb pinched together.
Last night a major AHA moment when I realize it. I used to just bury the disc in the web and then lay the thumb on the plate and push down.
I had no contact of the thumb with the index finger, or if I did , it was just on the edge of the index finger.
You need the index finger tip and thumb touching for a "1 pivot point" release. I now throw without OAT!!
I'm floored at how well I can throw. I use the stack grip like Paul McBeth. Just my preference, but the index and thumb are pinched.
I see how you can throw over 300ft now.
I can get a TL3 to about 290ft without a run up. Crazy.
All the videos showing FH are people showing their grip but they have opaque discs. They can't get the pinch idea through to us. You have a translucent MVP. I have translucent Champion mold and I saw how awful my thumb placement was.
Great video and I hope other can see that all important index/ thumb pinch!!
That was well done, and explained. Time to get out and practice. Thanks brother!!!
after 20 years of only having a backhand, this video gives me the info i need to start getting a forehand shot! thanks! Every time i try to forehand, i have no control.. turns out my grip, and approach suck lol
Great video. And definitely the only DG video I’ve ever seen that uses the term trebuchet! Nice vocab!
Soooo before this video, I was doing this all wrong, getting no distance, disc was flapping like a bird, just real ugly. After this video perfectly smooth, fairly accurate and almost as consistent as my backhand. I feel like I have 25 new discs in my bag now that I can throw flicks. Thank you!!!
Short and to the point best forehand tutorial!
Awesome video!!! My forehand needs work. Great explanation!!! I can't wait to get out and practice!!
Nice tutorial! I really like how you broke it down, and I have learned a few things about myself in the process. I can get 300' from a standing flick fairly consistently. Anywhere from 350-420+ with 2 steps.
I can see adopting some of your techniques in certain situations, and have used your methods and differing methods at different times. The differences are:
Technique:
Grip -
Stack the index finger on top of the middle finger, which some refer to as "behind it". This will increase inconsistency, but gets max power.
Mechanics -
I keep my elbow in tight as well, and try to keep my hand at the same height as my elbow at all times. I find that the snap feels like throwing a ball sidearm, and the only way I can describe it is: keeping my middle finger completely straight, and trying to have my thumb touch the first knuckle (makes the hand bend a little bit). I also keep my middle finger pointed slightly below parallel with the ground, and the farther you dip it down, the more hyzer.
Your mechanics seem to dip the disc down while launching off the back foot, and any motion spent moving the disc up/down is energy not spent powering it forwards. Try locking your elbow at 90+ degrees before the throw, so you don't raise your forearm during the x-step. I bet you will experience more anhyzer, and here's why: Since your current motion pulls the disc down at the end, it forces the "wing" down even if your grip dictates an anhyzer trajectory. These competing forces cancel out, and you get a nice straight trajectory. Remove the downward motion, and that unconscious anhyzer grip you've been using will become apparent. If you can adjust, you will see distance gains, and more flight path options :)
Footwork - Same, standing for control, x-step for maxx powa.
Strategy:
I'm not sure these are different from your strategy, but if you're still reading...
This throw is almost all snap, and snap causes the disc to flip. Lots of people have a hard time keeping the disc from turning over into an anhyzer roller. The other end of the spectrum is mechanics compensation like in this video. My strategy is to consider the "flat" flight of a flick to have a slightly hyzer release point, like a hyzerflip back hand. This means slightly tilting down the farthest away edge from your thumb. That's now neutral. Tilting farther down means hyzer, but tilting up means anhyzer. I take my other hand and put it flat on top of the disc, then practice holding the disc at whatever angle I choose while simulating the pull.
I find it easier to hyzer with the grip in this tutorial (Pistol), and easier to anhyzer with my grip (The 2 Finger Blast). This works ok, as I usually anhyzer for open distance, and hyzer for control. The pistol grip has more control!
Keep on chuckin'
you need to do a tutorial. im not being sarcastic either. i feel like you understand this throw very well and would like to see it
Thanks, this made my day! I'll let you know if I get around to it, but I don't practice as much these days so I'm down to 300-350 with the lack of conditioning. Went from 2-5 rounds a week to 1 every 3 months :(
😂 I'm blown away with the sidearm putter throw at the beginning. Never seen anything like that. I have to try it now.
Todd Takeda thanks! Just takes practice!
"rubber duckie.. ur the one.." good vid. My forehand sucks right now, hope this can help me. Time to go throw!
I still can't get over how far that disc goes with what seems like very little effort.
Yeah. My friend throws forehand very well. Always makes the rest of us feel bad xD
Most of the forehand power comes from the wrist. (Pop the wrist like you're popping a bullwhip. If you've never done that, get one. It's fun and it will help your disc golf forehand game big time.) I'm a Grandmaster and can standstill flick approaches to around 150 feet with no problem. I'm watching this video to try to get my drives from the tee from around 250 to over 300. The standstill forehand is easy. It's when movement is involved when it gets difficult.
It's all in how much that disc spins from the "snap" of the wrist.
That first one i went “wow” and i have seen some decent forehands i think
I'm always amazed that in various sporting or physical activities how often it happens that when the technique is correct, the effort goes way down. I just started learning disc golf and my shoulder is really sore. But on some throws, it feels so smooth and so easy and the disc go right where I want. If I could only get that consistent, low stress, high efficiency throw I'd be way further along.
Thanks bro, thanks for keeping it short and sweet, very easy to understand 👌🏻👌🏻
Awesome video! I'm taking those tips to the course tomorrow!
Thanks Andrew! Hope they help!
The hip explanation really made the flick drive make sense to me.
I’m a newb in disc golf, really appreciate the video. Time to practice!
Thanks for taking the time to make this! helpful as hell.
cool been thinking about trying out forehand throws, i grew up playing baseball so i naturally gravitated to throwing them as such in a tomahawk throw which i have gotten quite good at but i feel the need to diversify ma portfolio lol. whats sweet is i already employ a similar grip to your method so it shouldn't be to hard to make the switch
great video. it took me a while to grow my hair out long enough, but now I'm throwing forehands no problem!
Thanks for the video, I'm trying this out now for the first time!
Ben Smith awesome to hear!! Let me know how it goes !
Still working on this..My first day out didn't go so well but I need more practice
Great video, thanks! Want to get out to try it. My forehands usually flutter early, then tighten up, but I'm sure the flutter scrubs off a bunch of speed/distance. Any thoughts on how to correct that?
That flutter is from OATs (over axis torque) which can be helped if you practice smoother releases. It’s not a bad thing to have oats, but you can practice flicking a putter around the yard/field and you’ll be able to control every flick much better, leading to less flutter from your release.
@@nathankdiscgolf8816: Cool, thanks for the advice! I'm looking forward to trying some of your tips. I'm new to the game, and haven't spent any time practicing forehands so far, but there are two holes where I play that I give it a shot that usually looks a wounded duck followed by a hyzering crash 😵💫
Thanks Nathan K. Clear and concise.
Thanks for making this video. I really like how you break down the mechanics. For those standstill throws with putters, what's a good distance to try to build up to? 250 feet (or more)?
taotefling That's probably a goal to shoot for. I would stress having more control and comfort with anything sub 200. That way you can feel comfortable with flicking a putter for any upshot that you come across!
Nathan K Disc Golf Sounds good. Much thanks for the feedback!
What differences do you see in your group vs other stacked grips? I use the same grip you do but I've noticed a lot of people use the two finger stacked grip.
With the off set grip, I feel I have more stability while holding the disc. Your fingers cover more surface area off set which helps with accuracy on the release
nice video! I think I have to work a lot on my wrist when releasing the sidearm...I seem to want to turn a lot of discs over, like an anhyzer, instead of a slight hyzer or flat, when I throw sidearm
Awesome tips man love this sport
Beautiful flick!
Excellent Video. I'll give it a try.
This litteraally added 80 ft yo my drives
Joseph Mccluskey Glad to hear it! Keep it up!!
@@nathankdiscgolf8816 what discs were you using in the vidoes?
This is a great video to teach forehands! The one thing that I would say to beginners is that there's a multitude of different grips that all work well so if this grip doesn't feel right it's okay. And as a beginner I would DEFINITELY have a slower run up and x-step than this guy at least until you figure things out a little better
Great form...Thanks for posting
Very good tutorial.
Nova Ceo thank you! Hope it helped
liked the part on the foot work a lot. good throws
Sweet video i learned a lot
Thank you bro it does help every tip helps
jacob henson thanks Jacob!
Just worked on it in the field si.ple and powerful . Thank you for keeping it simple
Awesome breakdown!
Great video thank you. I will try this
Good vid that deserves a subscribe and like
Thanks, great video
When I first started playing disc golf a year-and-a-half ago I threw nothing but fore hands and I couldn't even throw a backhand now it's reverse! Everytime I try to throw a forehand I got a lot of wobble and a lot of hyzer. Ill try more. Thanks for the video!
what disc(s) are you throwing in the video?
Great video !!
Very nice.. what discs are you throwing here?
Pink putter - eclipse anode
Light blue mid - vector
Other pink putter - envy
+Nathan K very nice form man! thanks for the tips
You should go into teaching. Smooth clear description. Thank you.
@nathankdiscgolf thanks for the video. Can you recommend a disc to throw forehand that doesn't trail off to the right at the end? (I am really new to this. I've gone out maybe 4 or 5 times.)
David M I would recommend a slightly under stable driver or a disc that has a lighter weight. A lot of people love fission Tesla’s
"And that's how I grip it"
*mic drop*
nice socks
i will keep working on my throw good video 🖒
Great video.
Finally clicked for me when slowed arm down , shortened up and concentrated on wrist snap
Great video
Can you explain where to put my ring and pinky fingers as well?
1:10. You has me at trebuchet!
Kevin D Blew lol
Kevin D Blew lol
the forehand x-step is more along the lines of a baseball double hop then an x-step. little more shuffle like.
Yeah is just crow hop. That's what it's called in. Baseball.
so do you throw it slightly cocked to the right so that it evens itself out in flight?
krillansavillan I to throw the disc as flash as possible. That way I only have to adjust the speed and disc rotation to get the flight I want. Consistency is key!
Awesome!!! Thanks.
good shit
the slow motion tells all
you have really good compression in the brace
Are you using that grip with drivers aswell?
Adam Benkö Yes sir!
Far be it for me to mention those socks, because that’s what you want me to do.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I just started working on a side arm after two years of playing.
Thanks! Great Vid.
awesome. thank you so much!
What are you tossing?
as I watch your discs, some have some wobble in them after release, I find this makes them understable. do you compensate for that in your aim?
I cant throw a disc with a finger on the inside, I grip the side of the disc, a pinch so to speak, reduces power maybe, but its the only way I can throw forehand
Great video! However, your x-step is less of a pirouette and more of a chasse through 4th position.
a Sexton hop
Chasse... ah a word I thought I’d only hear during my nutcracker ballet rehearsals
What disc are you using?
My favorite forehand disc is the Avenger SS. Farthest disc I can throw
After watching this like 200 times I want a full 3-piece suit made from the same print as those socks. It would be glorious.
BEAST
Just went outside and threw straighter and about 5-15 feet more distance on all my throws immediately
I like how he shanks them off in the bushes most of the time. Nice tutorial.
Jungle Skunk For the vast majority of people, the FH is a utility shot, for when you need to finish to the right, or to bend it around a tree or hazard with a big right hyzer. (Those examples for RHFH of course)
At lest that’s how I treat it...I’ve got straight flight covered with my backhand throw. So fading right is...kind of the point here? 🤷🏻♂️😆
thank you!!
Thanks.
Geaux Nathan!
One thing you needed to add, is the snap you use at release, Simon Lizotte describes it as driving a nail into a wall by your side.
Yep
Woah that disc became invisible at 2:22 :o
yo wtf. youre right
to me, it looks like it goes behind a tree
Video compression algorithms doing their work there.
Flow god
filthy flow
agree with everything except keeping the elbow close to the body the entire time.
Thx
Ok, I've watched this 50 or so times, copied the grip, kept the elbo in, rotated my hips and it comes out like a wounded duck flopping around and goes 200ft if I'm lucky.
Work on a harder and clean snap of your wrist. Try standing still and just flicking the disc using your wrist to create that muscle memory.
I'm going to try this lol my backhand throw is awful
Coming from a flicker, that grip is odd..Everyone throws different though.