Jordan Love Looks Like the Future in Green Bay | The Play Sheet
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2024
- The Ringer’s Ben Solak looks at the recent play of Packers quarterback Jordan Love, to try and discern whether he's the future of the franchise in Green Bay. Love's athletic talent and trick-shot throws have gotten a lot of attention this season, but Solak argues that his underlying mechanics are just as noteworthy. Love only has one year left on his contract after this season, but if his stellar play keeps up, he could be in Green Bay for a long time to come. Watch 'The Play Sheet' on RUclips or Spotify every Wednesday at 8 a.m. PT.
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This show is amazing and should be one of the most watched shows on The Ringer!!
It is. It's quite the contrast to Ruiz who is absolutely not a serious person.
I love hearing people that watch and analyze every game saying they like what they are seeing from Love and that he has potential. Yet I'm still hearing people, especially Packers fans saying they don't like him still and he has been lucky recently. Clearly not even watching Love play right now, he is improving in front of our eyes!
The most annoying people are usually the loudest. I wouldn't pay attention to vocal minority. Most packers fans are seeing it too.
Even when he's struggling I haven't given up hope, there are so many examples of QBs evolving and significantly improving over time and he's now showing his doubters he is getting better. I remember some dumb Packer fans saying Clifford needed to start..
@@outcesticide69 unfortunately I hear it from my family all the time 😂
@@user-tc7eo4os5c then you have my sympathies 😂
They are secretly Jets fans, let them be miserable
Not sure whats more impressive- Love or the analysis. Outstanding job!
Never watched anything by Ben Solak before but this was extremely entertaining. Haven't been able to watch much Packers this season but seeing their recent surge had me curious as to how Jordan was doing. Looks like he's developing nicely! His ceiling? Who knows. But the arm talent certainly seems to be there.
Long time listener, first time caller. I could care less about the Falcons' season but am curious to see how you dissect Arthur Smith's misuse of key players and their otherworldly talent. Otherwise, thanks for everything and please keep these videos coming.
lovely analyses, thanks!
New subscriber, excellent take and content .. this young team is literally showing improvement every game.. the scary thing is in the Lions game, they left points on the field.. when this chemistry connects and more confidence is in each game , this young team could be a force to wrecken with
Nothing better than a little Benny soles film study.
Well haters, it looks like Ben Solak called it - roughly a month before Jordan Love’s terrific performance against the Cowboys. These Play Sheet segments are great, as is the Philly Special podcast Ben does with Sheil Kapadia on The Ringer. Keep up the great work!
Good content. Just a little help on Romeo Doub's last name that several media folks outside of Packerland often get wrong: It's pronounced DAHBS, not DUBS.
Congrats to the new baby on the way. Pray you and the lady have a healthy pregnancy.
I really enjoyed this video, no bombastic obnoxious screams or proclamations, just facts and opinions load. If I had to say 1 negative it would be the background music. Other than that - well done. +1
nice man, you we're a believer before everyone else came around on Sunday.
both Farve and Rodgers inherited a group of experienced receiving corps, JLove inherited two sophomores, a rookie and a rookie tight end. and don't get me started on the injuries
Don't forget that Rodgers was in his fourth year as well if you're gonna think about it that way. One more win this year and he will tie the wins for Rodgers first year. So far their stats are basically identical
We have more games in the season than they did back then, so not really relevant to compare number of wins
@@paulkaehn6203 Ya it is if you are talking bout their first 11 games
Great video
I'm a Packers fan and I have faith in Jordon Love
Respectfully - maybe get his name spelled right then!
Dude he looks like Arod on that scramble trick shot at the end of the video
wow watching this after the wild card game against the cowboys, prescient!
I’ve watch love aside Rodger’s it’s a honor to see
I'm a Vikings fan, and I gotta say, I don't completely hate this latest crop of Packers guys--yet! 😂
3/3 for Qb’s calling it now giving Niggas Love all season
My Q.B. finally gets to play in Green Bay Sunday night
Hope for a great game
G.B. 18< K.C. 27
if Favre did that fuck it ball in pittsburgh nobody would say a thing
There was less than a minute left with no timeouts and the length of the field to go. They needed a big play and he made it.
I’m sad that around week 5 I was already about to give up on Love. He’s looked crazy accurate the past few weeks. I just hope he can clean up his deep ball accuracy! It’s gotten better, but he’s still under throwing guys way too much. If he gets that figured out, watch out!
If the Packers got themselves another qb. The memes are never gonna end.
"They can't keep getting away with this!"
The truth is Is seeing the team gel , I figured two years this being one of them just like the Buffalo Bills then we should be a force to be reckoned with , get a new tackle or two who has to be in the system at least two years by that time we should know what we got by the beginning of next year we should be able to string A few wins together by the end of the season we should be at least in the playoffs if that’s not happening, then it’s time to look around but we look decent by next year’s end. I say we got our team.
Let's hope the progress continues. The Packers must have seen something in him to spend a #1 pick. But I wouldn't start anointing him after one or two good games. Pulling off an upset in the KC game would go a long way in Love's development.
Ur never gonna believe what just happened
6:17 what does this mean? 🤘
i think this just means we need a dominant wideout....we gotta get a beast or a few more beasts...maybe try to get brock bowers too. we need to start planning for draft...lets get a few badboys on offense. an change the outlook a bit. we'll be free of a-rods contract so that will open up money. but you could get rid of bahk too cuz lets face it...he ain't playing much
This kid is playing with the youngest offense in the NFL, and his stats are better than Patrick Mahomes right now. He has learned how to check down and not force it to Watson anymore. The last three weeks, he's looked like a top-tier QB. He doesn't have a healthy running game either. He's definitely for real. I can't wait to see how he plays against Kansas City. All aboard the Love train!!!! Go, Pack!!!
it absolutely kills me that the last play you review is exactly what lost the packers the divisional game
I’m a Romeo/Love girl all the way!
If they wanted to win some of those earlier games, they should have brought back Mason Crosby. So many games lost because of missed FG attempts. It’s not too late!
Sorry what are you talking about? Anders Carlson is currently 15-19 with field goals this season and didn’t even miss one until week 6. So what game losing field goals are you referring too? You said “so many games lost”
@@kylemtc2280probably talking about the broncos game.
Tell me you don't watch any games without telling me you don't watch any games.
The way I see it is that Crosby might have been better on FGs this year, but going with Carlson is probably more important to the team's future.
One of the biggest issues with Crosby in the last few years has been his declining leg strength. How much of that is due to injuries vs. age is up for debate, but it definitely had an effect on his use. We rostered a 2nd kicker for a game last year because we weren't sure Crosby was going to be able to go, and we punted or went for a riskier 4th down in a few situations because there was no longer confidence in Crosby being able to make kicks from those longer distances. We had also been sitting around the bottom of the league in touchback percentage on kickoffs for several years and were giving opponents good starting field position as a result.
Carlson may or may not work out, but his leg strength was the immediate tangible upgrade over Crosby and the staff believes they can develop his accuracy. He may not work out and we might need to turn to another kicker in a year or two if that is the case, but keeping Crosby would only delay the need to start that search; likely with declining results in the meantime.
This next 1-2 years where we're rebuilding, limited in cap space, and not likely to be competitive in the postseason is the perfect time to try and find a younger kicker to carry forward for the next decade, even if that causes some issues in the short-term.
Compare 2023 Jordan Love to 2008 Aaron Rodgers. Records (5-6) are the same after 11 games. 2,599 passing yards are exactly the same! 21 total touchdowns are exactly the same! Love's 19 passing touchdowns/10 interceptions & Rodgers' 17 passing touchdowns/9 interceptions are not all that different after 11 games. You can't look at the stats & say Rodgers was way better when he took over the offense back in 2008. If GB had decided to go a different direction after Rodgers first 11 games or first season as a starter, would GB have won the Super Bowl two seasons later? The coaches & players love Jordan Love, and they know him the best! Personally, I think Love is a breath of fresh air (Rodgers became a Diva, & he has brought that to Jets - demanding sub-par players & coaches be on their team). When a team lets a player call the shots, they are doomed! No one is missing Rodgers in the GB locker room this year. GB still controls their own destiny after 11 games, which is better than some teams. The Packers have not been perfect this year, but that is not all on Love. The pass protection has improved, & the young receivers are improving, too! It's a team sport, & this year is a good reminder of that!
You can't compare the stats of today to the stats of 2008. Quarterbacks and receivers today are coddled like never before. Also, Love's receivers are much better than what Rodgers had back then. Watson, Doubs, Reed, and Musgrave are all future stars. Even the backup tight end, Tucker Kraft is a potential future pro-bowler.
@@tomcollins5112 Yet, Rodgers" receivers won a Super Bowl! Guys like Jordy Nelson were pretty good! One can compare. You don't have to.
@@driftlesshunter9200The 2008 Packers didn't have anyone like Watson. Watson has Randy Moss type speed. Greg Jennings was comparable to Doubs, but the 2008 Packers didn't have anyone as speedy as Reed. This years Packers have better tight ends, and better running backs. If Rodgers was still the quarterback, they would be leading the NFC North right now.
@@tomcollins5112 Packers would suck with Rodgers. He spent no extra time with last year's receivers & they didn't make the playoffs because of it. He's become a Diva that would bring any team down at this point of his career. They wouldn't have Reed, because Cobb would have to be here. Love is the future & Rodgers is just a memory. No looking back!
@@driftlesshunter9200 The Packers have 1 win against a team with a winning record this year. They have 1 of the easiest schedules in the NFL this year whereas in Rodgers first year they had the 3rd toughest schedule in the NFL. Competition level matters. I will agree Rodgers had better more veteran receivers his first year starting. The reason the Packers sucked last year was because of their D and the fact their WRs led the league in drops. They still drop to many balls this year so it isn't all on Love but they still have only played 4 out of 11 game against teams with winning records and they've lost 3 of them.
Another Future MVP in Love?? Go Pack Go!!!!!
Do we still love Josh Dobbs?
If we were run run by the Giants brain trust, the Packers would give him a 4 year 200 mil contract now...😂
Where is the Cheesehead, Ben?
He's had a couple good games, lets not go crazy...
Yet people after a couple games said he was bad and wanted him benched.. so it goes both ways
@@qaxcgyujm true, Sunday Night will be fun to watch
It’s been 4 weeks. He’s PFFs 5th highest graded QB in that stretch.
It's not the fact that he's had 4 good games it's the fact that he has been playing better and playing a little better each game yes he still has a lot to work on but you can deny that he is slowly progressing
Fire gutty
How deep is your Love? Well, in this case specifically it's continually underthrown.
As a long time Packers fan just give him time and just watch he burns the league up‼️🔥🔥🔥
If the dimes he's been throwing recently are all under thrown, under throwing must be a key QB skill
@@jqualls7901 - 💯 Just drives me crazy when they talk about his arm strength, and he's legit underthrown every deep ball, even while on this heater he's on. Especially with all the speed at WR.
@@ajs8779 I think in some cases it's more a question of timing & decision-making vs. just arm strength.
I think on some of those deep balls, including the big one to Watson vs. the Lions, he's still gotta dial in at what point exactly he wants to commit to the throw based on what he's seeing from the defender. Sometimes where the receiver has had to slow down & wait for the ball they still would have been open & likely got the ball in stride if it had been thrown a few tenths of a second earlier.
Life is not based on "if."
💯💯💯💯 this conversation is over Jordan Love the future of GB
Yeah, and then he will have a bad game and everyone says get rid of him. It changes every week or two.
I heard 'bad sex' and did a double take 😅
This middle schooler sure knows a lot about football
He was playing the Lions. The Lions have the easiest schedule in the League.
Detroit has the 8th worst defense in the league.
Love has a passer rating of 87.4. B+.
The future is Footwork. The Packers (if they ever want to win another playoff game) will start a QB who has good footwork. Love has a looooong way to go with that--he is not the off platform phenom that people have been saying he is. He has about 70% of the zip and about 50% of the touch that you need to have to be an effective off-platform passer. Let's see how defenses adjust to him in the second half of the season. If the Packers make the playoffs that's good enough for a new contract--but a Blockbuster Deal? He better bring back the silverware if he wants Deshaun kinda money.
100%
That’s a horrible take imho. Yes, Love is more accurate with throws that come out on the first read, and he can rip it. BUT, last week he made all the throws, footwork or not. Also, it’s well past mid season, people have been game planning for him for several weeks, including the past 4 weeks where the Packers went 3-1. Can he get better, yes. Is he doing crazy good things recently? Sure is.
No he did not make all the throws footwork or not. It happened on the first play of the game. With good footwork Love hits Watson in stride before the safety can cross the field. Instead of a 53 yarder Watson takes it to the house.
This play was complete but footwork has cost many incompletions or loss of YAC.
If this is a dumb way to look at a QB then every NFL QB coach is dumb.
Bench him we want Clifford
Probably just you. Not we
he had a few good games now hes "on the rise" lol. calm down guys.
You earned a like for your explanation of Love's audition year and how the contract enters into it. You earned a "here we go again" for assuming because Love has turned some sort of corner because he's had two good games. YT is full of videos gushing over these two game.
But you said it yourself. He has been inconsistent all season. So why has he suddenly become consistently good? It is just as likely he will have two mediocre games in a row.
I am not saying he is a bust. I am saying he has not improved his very bad footwork all season. This leads to his accuracy inconsistency and his routinely underthrown long balls.
With bad footwork his ceiling is pretty good but not great. Does GB want to roll that way? Or in a deep QB draft do they make a move to snag a top prospect? That route means a cheap QB under a rookie contract for 4-5 years.
IMO Jordan Love still has considerable convincing to do.
Will everyone jump off the bandwagon after the first poor game Love has? I think the dude’s gonna be a solid QB, but let’s allow him an occasional imperfection.
He had 3 bad games in a row. He’s been really good the past 4 weeks
I don't think you can say hes the future yet. Id say more than 50% of the games this season he has been poor, like actually bad poor not just "oh he has no oline" he actually has an okay oline, sure it needs bodies but its not terrible. Its funny that these channels are pumping out this content now he has had a good 3/4 games stretch. Lets say next 4 games he does poor, guarentee there will be "GB need to draft a QB!" videos popping up.
It's marketing. No one want to be hyper-critical early because it shuts down viewers and that hurts your click-through. Love is under the microscope, and frankly--he's not there yet, and may never be there. But if the Packers sign him to some ridiculous contract without prove playoff success they got more problems than a so-so QB.
Yeah I like realists like you the O line has not been terrible and if you looked at the stats we are in the middle of the pack in O line stats
Agreed, also Love doesn't have to be a HOF QB, many 'average/above average' QBs have won championships and super bowls, GB just need him to be good, as their core team is young but quiet talented. @@DimitriDelCastillo
IOW GB just needs a game manager throwing to slants and checkdowns. Why pay veteran QB money for a game manager when a much cheaper rookie can fill tyat role.
No, teams do not draft QBs in the first because the plan is to get an average starter.
He's been all over the place.
Way too much hand movement, for a camera this close.
Another blabbermouth fanboy stuck in middle school😅
No. He doesn't. Sports writers and pundits have to stop gassing people over ONE performance. You all said the same thing after Week 1 against a terrible Chicago team. Then he proceeded to play TERRIBLY for 7 weeks. He looked "decent" against LAC and good against Detroit. If he goes right back to his standard 50% completion and multiple INT games the next couple weeks, the honest assessment is, when you play poorly in 10 games and good in 2, law of averages, you aren't good.
Even the sun shines on a dog's ass some days.
He was a raw prospect and hasn’t played much football besides practice in the last 3 years. As he’s gotten more reps he’s steadily gotten more confident and sharper mechanically. It’s easy to see why people are excited.
He was actually good vs stealers 2 his int came in the last 3 min of 4th quarter
Nah he's QB16 this season.
He started well, sucked for a bit now he's back on track.
He's better than Rodgers was last year
If he beats the Chiefs this week, then we'll talk.
You forsure a packers hater and thought the packers were going to get blown out last Thursday lol keep crying kid you don’t know ball