Finally, a video recent enough that YT will let me send you some moolah! This is a thanks for the entire series; I thought I'd do the story of FO4 finally (after owning it for 7-8 years) and then move on to another game... nope. 300+ hours in, I'm building settlements, and who's Shaun? 😁 [up to getting the synth component in the MQ] I just finished decorating Tenpines using the basic house of yours and adding to it; it's no experty place but I'm chuffed nonetheless. So, ty!
@@SkooledZone I also should have said I really enjoyed this video but forgot. I just picked up the manor and was "oh gods, wtf am I going to do about this." I'm not going to do _exactly_ what you did here but now I have Big Ideas For The Place.
In my last playthrough I had a ghoul that kept respawning but non-hostile. He'd just stand there outside around back and twitch about. I gave him a little doghouse, a light, and a beach umbrella, and named him Terrence.
The same thing happened to some dead mole at red rocket. Named them ronnie,donnie,and connie. Sadly they despawned after a while so I made them graves.😔
I can't believe I get to make a comment 3 hrs after a new No Mods Shop Class video is posted to RUclips in 2024. A month ago, I found this channel and watched about every vid in the playlist. Thanks for the videos!
Thanks man. No I haven't started playing on my Series X yet. Not everyone has one and I want to make sure all my tips are accessible to everyone. But it probably won't be long before I migrate over.
I've been building on settlements and restart building for ten years now. Seen all settlements build by others. Won't bother me showing my settlements on YT as well. Mine is different anyway, like yours will be too. Just continue building and showing your style.
That's how I rebuilt Sanctuary. Made an entire house, then moved it inside one of the existing buildings. More accurately, built the new interior, tried moving it, cussed at whoever came up with this system, found the bottle/dead radroach/whatever that was blocking me, tried again (and again with renewed cussing), and eventually got it to fit once I figured out I was trying to put it in the wrong existing building.
@@edmartin875 i don't think you need to have ocd to not like how the floor is uneven or facing different directions, that'll throw anybody off. the problem is getting them to face the direction your wanting to put them in, too many things easily snap, and it can often be difficult in facing the direction you're trying to put it. what Bethesda should've did is, instead of pieces automatically attaching, you just have to manually place it, that way you can just grab it all together the way you put it. now i get why they did it that way, it's because if we had to do everything manually, it would take alot longer to get a build going. but then again carpenters and construction workers need some days of rest in between building, but this is a game i don't people would have that kind of patience. it's no wonder why i can't blame people who play Minecraft, choose the free option to build something first, and turn on survival later. I've seen people do that, but it is sort of cheating in a way lol.
Another great building tip you can do: make your HUD color fully black. the reason you do that is because for whatever reason, the colored outline matches your HUD color so by making it black, you remove any colored outline and it makes lining things up waaay easier. The red outline doesn't get removed so that helps too
For so many years I played with mods. Now when I can no longer play with them, RUclips recommends me your channel. Best algorithm decision ever. I watched almost everything in retrospective and I want to thank you so much. For some reason, being free to do whatever I wanted with mods sort of killed my imagination. Now my mind is brimming with so many clever ideas and I am having time of my life in Fallout settlements. And this came at the perfect moment. I may have to redo something on my Croup Manor but your idea is super neat!
Like others, 8 years ago I never did much building, but after deciding to replay after watching the TV show, I loaded up my old disc, already had main DLCs, got the next gen update and have been having a blast! Then I saw these awesome build videos and bought the workshop DLCs (They are about £4 each on PS in the UK) and...wow, I'm discovering a whole new world of fun thanks to you!
Thanks for continuing this series so many years later. I'm on PC now but I started settlement building on PS4 and your videos were invaluable. Even with the advantage of mods these techniques are still incredibly useful and creative. I find having the ability to place things anywhere with mods can actually stunt creativity in some cases, especially when it comes to decorating, so these videos will always be appreciated.
You can literally build all the walls and floors outside of the manor. Using the pillar glitch and start with a floor at the door near the motorcycle. It's hard to explain but you can build the whole thing outside the home and keep checking back using the pillar glitch as you go and repositioning the fixed parts then take it out add a wall ext. and just build the whole thing separate. Wish I had a channel to show it. :) Love the fire glitch. I've learned a ton from you!
Greetings all! Salutations Mr. Zone! First of all, there is no need to apologize for taking breaks/vacations, or for not producing more content. Believe it or not, community members, it's OK to have a day job on the side! Unless Mr. Zone is a synth programmed for engineering and architecture, this intensive building content must take many hours to design and execute. (I came across a different vid last night, but couldn't find it on my communication device, so am addressing Mr. Zone's comments here.) I am playing on an Xbox1 offline at this time, with no mods, no DLC's, original release copy, with no access to a pc, so many of these tricks don't work, but the content is very inspiring nonetheless. Mr. Zone is an excellent tutor, and I always learn alot from viewing his content. I haven't finished building up this settlement site yet, so am looking for all the assistance I can get! My worst personal issue is the respawning ghoul annoyance. If I can't make them disappear for good, (except for the dining room "decoration" hanging through the ceiling, which seems to be a permanent fixture, barring access to console commands and/or mods, I guess I'll have to surrender to the inevitable and go with a messy horror vibe and rename this location "Creep Manor" 😅. Thank you very much, Mr. Zone, for another excitingly educational vid, and IMHO, the solarium is a beautiful and actually historically correct addition. Your music is laudable too. SKÅL!
I have to be honest. I dont use mods at all when playing Fallout 4. I know, I know blasphemous. but, I enjoy the building as is in the game and using the ingame tricks to build how I want rather than downloading the Place Anywhere mod. I feel that using the in game tricks it puts limitations on you and breeds creativity. Just me tho. its awesome that after these many years that this series is still on going. thank you for all the No Mod Shop Class videos. they have been alot of help....heres to many more!!
I've always been of like mind about mods until recently. I limit myself to 3 mods. First is the p-99 pistol which holds 10 rounds of 10mm ammo and does a little less than double damage over the regular 10 mm pistol. I use it for my first 10 levels or so with a new character so that he has a chance to kill someone before he dies. After that I give them all to my settlers that have only a pipe pistol. Second is glowing bodies so I can actually find lootable bodies after a fire fight. Third is My Jetpack. This allows me to cross downtown Boston via the rooftops without my game crashing every half dozen steps. I have also found there is occasional loot on rooftops that was here-to-fore totally unknown and/or inaccessible to me.
This place was the first build I was truly proud of. This was before any of the dlc, and finding your channel. I used the small and full floor to fit the roof. I used rugs to cover all the wholes.
Since Skooled Zone has been away for a while I found another builder I would also recommend. His name is Shawzzo. His style is different but does an amazing job with the builds he comes up with.
Another great vid Paul. Your creativity is showing no signs of fading, a really unique solution here. As others have said, it is possible to do the whole building in one go, floors, interior walls and all but the door way you made is super clean, whereas doing the entire building in on does leave a janky edge on the right of that doorway. Maybe a combo of the the two methods would be perfection. PLK 👍
I have played this game for a long time. Every time i start a settlement that needs clearing, i solo it and agro characters off property. Makes it easy. Just agro them past the boundaries then kill. The planter also works the same as the campfire.
Love it! I like Croup Manor but it is hard to do anything with.... I love this idea!!! I did manage to get that area useable on a previous save... Still have that one actually... Managed to Pillar Glitch some floors in but this looks so much nicer!
LOL. "Awesome Sauce" came and went, and this is the first time I've heard it in a couple decades. I'm too old to remember when that phrase was on the lips of the "in" crowd, but all the users of it will be dating themselves to a short range of ages.
A truely creative choice. I might use that idea. I have used the old roof for hiding power, so I tend to build a set of stairs up from that balcony, but power can be sunk into the cliffs instead. ❤
Replaying fo4 again and just recently rebuilt Croup Manor exterior walls, interior floors and roof. Did it using techniques from your videos. Cheers dude.
Thanks. About the most I've done with Croup is use the double floors to reroof the big hole. Then expand out from the carport. I usually only use it as a turnaround point for a couple provisioners, and home to a few brahmin.
The locations are pretty accurate in the game to real life except the placement of the police station and the church are a bit off. My guess is Croup Manor is meant to be the Cary Street Club (where my parents have been members my whole life).
This video just got recommended to me, and that is such a weird coincidence because in my new playthrough, I just discovered Croup Manor this morning. The beach resort environment intrigued me to settle here, but as I was walking through it, I was thinking to myself, why would I want to use this dump as a settlement? There are so many missing walls that are going to be such a PITA to patch up. Do I really want the headache that comes with this property? But now I have a "No Mods Shop Class tutorial" to make it a settlement I'd like. Gotta love fate.
I want to see an amazing Croup Manor build. It's such a difficult settlement, without mods, though. A lot of the Croup Manor builds I've seen so far have been disappointing. It's sad too because it has amazing potential. But the way you did that sunroom gave me hope that Croup Manor is salvageable.
Nice to see you back on building again. My last Crucks... Croup Manor build is quite old by now on my part-time Raider Boss. I made extensive use of the white and red checkered floor from the creation club because it's such a damn game changer. I also build a glass walled garden on the damaged roof but I prefer to stay in the boundaries of this white rim. Most of the times I start there and build down from it until I have a clean level pass into the existing structure. Which means I have to stick in the wall extra but I don't mind that if the roofs better align with the existing walls. But I'm also that crazy to re glas the windows...
Just wanted to say thank you for all your help witb Tutorials! I've been building in F4 for years, and I'm working on my masterpiece Vault 88 right now!
THANK YOU Croup Manor is one of my favorite settlements edit: Also my hubby and I have been binging your videos over the last few months playing fallout together 🥰
Been trying to figure out what to build there. You might explore the building height option. You can actually build pretty high at Croup. Was thinking about building a skyscraper and/or light house design there since it is close to water. Thanks for the rebuild tip video. Fixing it up will be way easier now 👌
You bet. And you know actually, while I was building the roof of the sunroom, I was thinking about how easy it would be to add a second story to it. Then you could built back over on top of the original house and then continue upwards 😉
This was wonderful! I was really struggling with the walls and floors of that place. Im glad i found your channel becuse now i have been using that pillar method and remaking my settlements in the way i originally had planned. Thanks!!❤
I've been wondering what you'd do with Croup Manor and you not only did that but also showed me new tips on pillar glitching! Now I think I can fix the walls in a house I've already got floors in thanks to the campfire method! I'd love to see what you'd do or have done with Taffington Boathouse. That repair has me stumped so far. Great video, thanks!
Hey Schooled Zone! Hahahahah! I laugh because I have been following you since you first started. Very great to see you still going. Gotta admit I have been lurking a bit, but when I (re) saw this one I just had to say hi. Best of luck sir and I am looking forward to many more!
I discovered your channel a few weeks ago, when looking for a way to get rid of the ghoul remains in Croup's Manor... I've managed to clean most of them, and built a little junk mortar for the ones that refuse to leave 😅 and I'm loving your videos, you gave me a lot of inspiration and I'm learning a lot of new tricks! Cheers!
All outside walls most walls indoors and al floors and roofs can be fixed in the same way. You need to start at the bottom and build the next floor on top. Pretty hard way of building and I am loving it. You can have Group Manor always almost perfect lol. So my old time teacher, the post trick. The barn post is even better and easier to use. Just one of the four sides of the pole will get you closer to the object, works so with all pillars and posts. So you need to figure out which side that is first. Pick up the post to high or to low or to close by, the trick won't work or your view will be hindered, so place and angle are indeed the worst part to figure out. Save and quick saves are both mandatory. a save for each floor maybe even two hard saves for each floor.
It’s so good to hear that music agar glad your back dude Remember last time I commented I said to drop back on to starfield now look at the boom that’s had
Yep, I fix the Croup Manor myself every time I play FO4, but I use the console command to actually duplicate good sections of the original floor and walls. Takes a wile to do it this way because they don't lock in place like the building materials from the shop does. Plus, if I remember correctly, you need a mod to place these pieces where you want them. And, I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect this may cause problems with the game because these pieces were not meant to be duplicated in the game in this manner. Using the shop materials is the 100% stable way to do this, and is much easier too. Cool video! 👍👍
I just nabbed the Kingsport lighthouse from the children of atom and somewhat built there. But now, I gotta do this at the manor!!! I'm so doing this. 😊😊
I'm 3 mine into the video and you already got me hooked, you're funny bro keep it up and I'll keep watching haha I've just started getting into fallout, (Skyrim skooma addict haha)
Greetings Paul! Thankyou very much for your response! I enjoy practicing politeness and respectful manners, and if my adress "hah--made you laugh", so much the better! (I had no other reference at the time, so went with "Mr. Zone".😅) But just the same, your content is indeed always top drawer, and it is my habit to state the facts regarding performance, quality, and quantity, etc. People seem to forget nowadays that those with ourstanding talent work hard too, and are human beings like everyone else. I get very annoyed with uncalled-for criticism toward actors, musicians, and content creators, etc. We're all prone to eccentricities, and while unhealthy behavior on the part of a creator (or anyone else) is never acceptable, people in general would be alot happier if they stopped spewing negativity and focused on the positive facts. So THERE! 😃
I agree. However I reserve the right to an occasional sarcastic comment in response for dumb comments. My pet peeve is when someone's entire comment is "First". I let them know that we are all so very proud of them and they will undoubtedly go down in history as one of the greatest commentors of all time. And that their name will be held in the highest regard till the end of time.
That was awesome. I did a vault tec build with a restaurant in that space that worked out well years ago. I'm adding vids on my channel where I recreated the carvana building with better ways to move cars. Great ways to hide wires as well. Especially with street lights. I don't want to use the wifi glitch. That can easily break your game
Genius I didn't know about the fire glitch. I have been using farm plots to plant water pumps inside buildings and poke the faucet through the wall over a tub for indoor plumbing. I only have vanilla gameplay.
That was beautiful! I glitched in wall and ceiling repairs but hit build limits before getting too fancy. I always have to build decent defenses which uses up a fair chunk of my build limits. I do try to attend all fights when I can… so that kinda helps me to justify the drain on limits. Kinda. If I rebuild Croup a third time, I’ll see if I can build that observatory… and maybe go one square wider around back, side and front if I can. Thanks for keepin’ on keepin’ on! ;-)
I like how you approached it, it looks clean and the plant idea sounds classy. A thought for a future build is that you can fit 4 floor units with the existing frame of the parapets. Wirh this method I had made a build that built upward either 3 or 4 floors higher than the roof. Combining our ideas I like the idea of a tall glass skyscraper-like build and possibly wider wraparound structures that can make use of the existing house windows as vendor windows.
I had originally tried 4 floor units (2 across) but the doorway wall was too far off center. So I expanded it to 3 across and was able to center the doorway.
Hey brother I really do appreciate that bill that I just seen now the reason why I say I appreciate it is because you are planning on a console and that's what I find interesting people that like to play on PC use commands and use back doors personally me I don't I don't like that I hope to see more of your bills and if you can in the future or if you already done it I will love to see a full build on vault 88 that's the only one I have a lot of problems with maybe you can show me or tell me some good ideas Thank you Chris AKA whitelion
This is actually one of my favorite places to build! At least once the barn and warehouse doc came out. They make the walls really easy to fix, both interior and exterior! You can make the courtyard into a marketplace, farm on the cliff,and put a ceiling fan right where it will play whack-a-corpse all day!
Paul, great to see you back in the classroom again!! I noticed that the next-gen updates have killed the mods but what about the various wireless, rug glitches etc -- VERY happy to see pillar glitch is still a thing though!! 😁😁😁
I normally turn Croup Manner into a brothel-looking place. This is much better than any of the attempts I made to class up the joint. Now my clientele has a place to wait for a room to open up.
9:56 "Floor - upper" means it's a Floor/Ceiling combo. It's meant to be the floor of the second story so you don't have to have a ceiling part underneath the floor, which is why it's "double stuffed"
I did a thing where i created some pillbox type things on the main entrance to protect my turrets a bit better and still allow them to shoot out. Works surprisingly well. I would share if i could.
This place gives me nightmares, lol. I have recommended your build videos to so many people. You are the best…thx to you my Sanctuary ( with no mods at all) is so awesome. I couldn’t be more pleased and every time I start over it just gets better and better. I can’t thank you enough for these great videos. I’m wondering if you have thoughts on Hangman’s Alley…..that’s another trouble spot for me🤔
Thanks for the kind words (and spreading the word)! Yeah, Hangman's Alley is a tough-one. I haven't tried anything there yet because I can't think of a "theme" I want for it yet. Maybe someday something will inspire me.
Hangman's Alley is a trouble spot for everyone 😭😭 lol I see a lot of people are doing markets/red light district type of themes over there. Not gonna lie, some of them look awesome.
Managed to place this on the first try. If you balance the sunroom on both sides of the house it sticks out the back a little bit I used the campfire to line up my doorway
I think it would look really nice if you went another 1/2 floor farther out, so you encapsulate the entire balcony thing, and the white edge bit doesn't end up clipping through the end. You can do planters all around, then. Or a wraparound bench, perhaps. If the angled roof won't work that way, you could just do a flat roof.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work, as there is no half window or half roof. There are concrete half walls, and obviously half floors, so it may be possible, but it would not look seamless.
Glad to see you had the time to drop back in & give us a lesson. Do the garden plots also count as dirt for the purpose of sinking pillars? Using that trick makes me want to work on one of my favorite settlement, the National Park Visitor's Center. Its a pain to patch that house, but the settlement itself is laid out beautifully. Happy Father's Day, if applicable.
Only the rock portion of the campfire will allow pillars to sink through the floor beneath it. The actual fire part cannot. The garden plot is similar. You can sink a pillar anywhere in the garden plot on it's own, or on many Bethesda built floors, but if you are trying to sink through a player built floor only the edges of the garden plot will work. I have a Tips & Tricks vid called "Softening things with soft drinks" that shows what I mean on Bethesda floors around the 5:00 mark vs player built floors around the 6:00 mark. All that being said the campfire is often more convenient to use due to it's smaller size.
@@TheInsaneShecklador Thank you very much. I handicap myself w/ survival mode and often forget to catch a nap before trying to move/adjust things. Sooner or later (usually sooner) I throw up my hands in frustration. As such, I have a few very wonky settlements, particularly Hangman's Alley.
@@Mr._Anderpson I love building in Fo4 but I can't give up my quicksaves while building. I have regular mode characters for building and separate survival mode characters for actually playing the game.
Another thought on what to do with the parapets, especially if you do have them off center where one side has space for plants, but the other doesn't. On the "short" side, you could rug glitch in some counters/bars/etc to cover that strip and also make it look like something that belongs in the room. After all, you need storage for your tea service and a counter for your evening hors d'oeuvres in the solarium before moving to the dining room for the dinner party. 😉
Finally, a video recent enough that YT will let me send you some moolah! This is a thanks for the entire series; I thought I'd do the story of FO4 finally (after owning it for 7-8 years) and then move on to another game... nope. 300+ hours in, I'm building settlements, and who's Shaun? 😁 [up to getting the synth component in the MQ] I just finished decorating Tenpines using the basic house of yours and adding to it; it's no experty place but I'm chuffed nonetheless. So, ty!
I really appreciate that! Viewers like you keep me going 😁
@@SkooledZone I'm glad!
@@SkooledZone I also should have said I really enjoyed this video but forgot. I just picked up the manor and was "oh gods, wtf am I going to do about this." I'm not going to do _exactly_ what you did here but now I have Big Ideas For The Place.
In my last playthrough I had a ghoul that kept respawning but non-hostile. He'd just stand there outside around back and twitch about. I gave him a little doghouse, a light, and a beach umbrella, and named him Terrence.
😂😅
Terrence seems pretty chill. I think you did good
he’s just standing there😰 MENACINGLY 😱😱😱
Is there anyway to just scrap Croup manor and other similar situations,?
The same thing happened to some dead mole at red rocket. Named them ronnie,donnie,and connie. Sadly they despawned after a while so I made them graves.😔
I can't believe I get to make a comment 3 hrs after a new No Mods Shop Class video is posted to RUclips in 2024. A month ago, I found this channel and watched about every vid in the playlist. Thanks for the videos!
Have you started playing on the XBox Series X, yet? Or still using the last gen Fallout 4?
I can't believe it's not butter.
Thanks man. No I haven't started playing on my Series X yet. Not everyone has one and I want to make sure all my tips are accessible to everyone. But it probably won't be long before I migrate over.
@@SkooledZone I'm curious to see how your way-over-the-limit settlements perform with the new hardware.
@@buddyhoss You mean you don't know about the settlement size glitch?
I was literally just working on Croup Manor and getting frustrated when this posted. Thanks a million.
I've been building on settlements and restart building for ten years now. Seen all settlements build by others. Won't bother me showing my settlements on YT as well. Mine is different anyway, like yours will be too. Just continue building and showing your style.
Croup... *shudders* ...Manor.
Nice work on this fix for it! I never think to build on the side then place the module after its built. Genius!
That's how I rebuilt Sanctuary. Made an entire house, then moved it inside one of the existing buildings.
More accurately, built the new interior, tried moving it, cussed at whoever came up with this system, found the bottle/dead radroach/whatever that was blocking me, tried again (and again with renewed cussing), and eventually got it to fit once I figured out I was trying to put it in the wrong existing building.
You have been SORELY missed.
I thought about coming back but I’m sorta busy with 76 builds. Ty
@@halottember3429 . . .? I'm talking to SkooledZone. . .
6:56 Glad I'm not the only one obsessed with making the floors face the same direction.
My OCD would not allow it to be any other way.
I wasn't OCD until Fallout 4. Floor boards go the same direction irl so it just makes sense to do it in a video game.
There are many of us … you are not alone.😄
@@edmartin875 i don't think you need to have ocd to not like
how the floor is uneven or facing different directions,
that'll throw anybody off. the problem is getting them to face
the direction your wanting to put them in, too many things easily
snap, and it can often be difficult in facing the direction
you're trying to put it. what Bethesda should've did is,
instead of pieces automatically attaching, you just have
to manually place it, that way you can just grab it all together
the way you put it. now i get why they did it that way,
it's because if we had to do everything manually, it would take
alot longer to get a build going. but then again carpenters
and construction workers need some days of rest in between
building, but this is a game i don't people would have that kind
of patience. it's no wonder why i can't blame people who play
Minecraft, choose the free option to build something first,
and turn on survival later. I've seen people do that,
but it is sort of cheating in a way lol.
Another great building tip you can do: make your HUD color fully black. the reason you do that is because for whatever reason, the colored outline matches your HUD color so by making it black, you remove any colored outline and it makes lining things up waaay easier. The red outline doesn't get removed so that helps too
For so many years I played with mods. Now when I can no longer play with them, RUclips recommends me your channel. Best algorithm decision ever. I watched almost everything in retrospective and I want to thank you so much. For some reason, being free to do whatever I wanted with mods sort of killed my imagination. Now my mind is brimming with so many clever ideas and I am having time of my life in Fallout settlements. And this came at the perfect moment. I may have to redo something on my Croup Manor but your idea is super neat!
Like others, 8 years ago I never did much building, but after deciding to replay after watching the TV show, I loaded up my old disc, already had main DLCs, got the next gen update and have been having a blast! Then I saw these awesome build videos and bought the workshop DLCs (They are about £4 each on PS in the UK) and...wow, I'm discovering a whole new world of fun thanks to you!
Thanks for continuing this series so many years later. I'm on PC now but I started settlement building on PS4 and your videos were invaluable. Even with the advantage of mods these techniques are still incredibly useful and creative. I find having the ability to place things anywhere with mods can actually stunt creativity in some cases, especially when it comes to decorating, so these videos will always be appreciated.
When the community needed him most, he returned. Hail to the King!!
You can literally build all the walls and floors outside of the manor. Using the pillar glitch and start with a floor at the door near the motorcycle. It's hard to explain but you can build the whole thing outside the home and keep checking back using the pillar glitch as you go and repositioning the fixed parts then take it out add a wall ext. and just build the whole thing separate. Wish I had a channel to show it. :)
Love the fire glitch. I've learned a ton from you!
There’s a video on here that shows exactly this. It’s old but still works great
That’s probably where I got it from! 😁
The campfire trick just blew my mind
Yep. Mine as well. That is something I did not know.
So, dumb question, if campfire works as dirt, could that be used as a glitch at the airport for food/water and to make an ACTUAL No-Mods settlement?
@@Shado0911 Well, you have "dirt" at the Airport, so you can actually do food/water there.
@@WebShaman01 Well what about the machinists lair?
@@WebShaman01the workshop menu at the airport is missing the food tab so no, you can't
Greetings all! Salutations Mr. Zone! First of all, there is no need to apologize for taking breaks/vacations, or for not producing more content. Believe it or not, community members, it's OK to have a day job on the side! Unless Mr. Zone is a synth programmed for engineering and architecture, this intensive building content must take many hours to design and execute. (I came across a different vid last night, but couldn't find it on my communication device, so am addressing Mr. Zone's comments here.) I am playing on an Xbox1 offline at this time, with no mods, no DLC's, original release copy, with no access to a pc, so many of these tricks don't work, but the content is very inspiring nonetheless. Mr. Zone is an excellent tutor, and I always learn alot from viewing his content. I haven't finished building up this settlement site yet, so am looking for all the assistance I can get! My worst personal issue is the respawning ghoul annoyance. If I can't make them disappear for good, (except for the dining room "decoration" hanging through the ceiling, which seems to be a permanent fixture, barring access to console commands and/or mods, I guess I'll have to surrender to the inevitable and go with a messy horror vibe and rename this location "Creep Manor" 😅. Thank you very much, Mr. Zone, for another excitingly educational vid, and IMHO, the solarium is a beautiful and actually historically correct addition. Your music is laudable too. SKÅL!
I really appreciate the kind words 👊 Although you made me giggle a bit by calling me Mr. Zone 😅 You can just call me Paul.
I have to be honest. I dont use mods at all when playing Fallout 4. I know, I know blasphemous. but, I enjoy the building as is in the game and using the ingame tricks to build how I want rather than downloading the Place Anywhere mod. I feel that using the in game tricks it puts limitations on you and breeds creativity. Just me tho. its awesome that after these many years that this series is still on going. thank you for all the No Mod Shop Class videos. they have been alot of help....heres to many more!!
I've always been of like mind about mods until recently. I limit myself to 3 mods. First is the p-99 pistol which holds 10 rounds of 10mm ammo and does a little less than double damage over the regular 10 mm pistol. I use it for my first 10 levels or so with a new character so that he has a chance to kill someone before he dies. After that I give them all to my settlers that have only a pipe pistol. Second is glowing bodies so I can actually find lootable bodies after a fire fight. Third is My Jetpack. This allows me to cross downtown Boston via the rooftops without my game crashing every half dozen steps. I have also found there is occasional loot on rooftops that was here-to-fore totally unknown and/or inaccessible to me.
The return of the king
That roof looks really good, I love the greenhouse styling.
This place was the first build I was truly proud of. This was before any of the dlc, and finding your channel. I used the small and full floor to fit the roof. I used rugs to cover all the wholes.
Hahah! Since I've never been part of the "in" crowd, I had no idea that "Awsum Sawce" was ever "in". I just happen to find it useful and amusing. LOL
Respect. I'm learning how to fiddle with some things in Fallout that I haven't known all these years, AND I'm learning random terminology and trivia.
Wow it’s been a while ! You’re one of the few people that I recommend for hard builds and glitches. I can always count on your ideas .
Since Skooled Zone has been away for a while I found another builder I would also recommend. His name is Shawzzo. His style is different but does an amazing job with the builds he comes up with.
I love this whole series.
the last 30hrs out of 400+hrs playing fallout 4, taking lesson from your vids on how to build stuffs.
thanks mate~ 😊
Finally the master is back
Another great vid Paul. Your creativity is showing no signs of fading, a really unique solution here. As others have said, it is possible to do the whole building in one go, floors, interior walls and all but the door way you made is super clean, whereas doing the entire building in on does leave a janky edge on the right of that doorway. Maybe a combo of the the two methods would be perfection. PLK 👍
I have played this game for a long time. Every time i start a settlement that needs clearing, i solo it and agro characters off property. Makes it easy. Just agro them past the boundaries then kill. The planter also works the same as the campfire.
Yes, the garden plot also works. I use the campfire more often just because it's more compact.
@SkooledZone I figured. Was just mentioning for new players really.
Love it! I like Croup Manor but it is hard to do anything with.... I love this idea!!! I did manage to get that area useable on a previous save... Still have that one actually... Managed to Pillar Glitch some floors in but this looks so much nicer!
With the next Gen update for Fallout 4, I've been going back to all the No Mods Shop Class videos to brush up on my building skills.
Oh absolutely--the floors have it! Mine MUST all be facing the same direction, or I can't think; it completely messes up my zen. 😅 Awsum Sawce!!
LOL. "Awesome Sauce" came and went, and this is the first time I've heard it in a couple decades. I'm too old to remember when that phrase was on the lips of the "in" crowd, but all the users of it will be dating themselves to a short range of ages.
A truely creative choice. I might use that idea. I have used the old roof for hiding power, so I tend to build a set of stairs up from that balcony, but power can be sunk into the cliffs instead. ❤
Replaying fo4 again and just recently rebuilt Croup Manor exterior walls, interior floors and roof. Did it using techniques from your videos. Cheers dude.
Nice work!
OMG I am soooo happy to see the Skooled Zone tutorials back again! :) :) :)
Thanks. About the most I've done with Croup is use the double floors to reroof the big hole. Then expand out from the carport. I usually only use it as a turnaround point for a couple provisioners, and home to a few brahmin.
Love croup manor, this and Taffington. Thanks for the build vid.
I grew up in Nahant so you’ve inspired me to finally tackle Group Manor next on my build list:) Thank you!
That's pretty cool you get to build in your old stomping grounds.
The locations are pretty accurate in the game to real life except the placement of the police station and the church are a bit off. My guess is Croup Manor is meant to be the Cary Street Club (where my parents have been members my whole life).
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@@lahainanoon5838 The building does look similar.
This video just got recommended to me, and that is such a weird coincidence because in my new playthrough, I just discovered Croup Manor this morning. The beach resort environment intrigued me to settle here, but as I was walking through it, I was thinking to myself, why would I want to use this dump as a settlement? There are so many missing walls that are going to be such a PITA to patch up. Do I really want the headache that comes with this property? But now I have a "No Mods Shop Class tutorial" to make it a settlement I'd like. Gotta love fate.
I want to see an amazing
Croup Manor build. It's such a difficult settlement, without mods, though. A lot of the Croup Manor builds I've seen so far have been disappointing. It's sad too because it has amazing potential. But the way you did that sunroom gave me hope that
Croup Manor is salvageable.
I am always so excited when you post. I never used to be big on the settlement aspect of the game but thanks to your videos it isn't as frustrating
This is awesome. I wish i knew these tricks years ago, but I'm happy to finally know them now. Thank you
Nice to see you back on building again. My last Crucks... Croup Manor build is quite old by now on my part-time Raider Boss. I made extensive use of the white and red checkered floor from the creation club because it's such a damn game changer. I also build a glass walled garden on the damaged roof but I prefer to stay in the boundaries of this white rim. Most of the times I start there and build down from it until I have a clean level pass into the existing structure. Which means I have to stick in the wall extra but I don't mind that if the roofs better align with the existing walls. But I'm also that crazy to re glas the windows...
with this games resurgence i have realized that i have been watching your videos since early to mid 2016
Nice! Thanks for being such a longtime viewer :)
Just wanted to say thank you for all your help witb Tutorials! I've been building in F4 for years, and I'm working on my masterpiece Vault 88 right now!
THANK YOU Croup Manor is one of my favorite settlements
edit: Also my hubby and I have been binging your videos over the last few months playing fallout together 🥰
Haha, that's awesome! Couples that game together, stay together 💞
Great video as usual. Croup and I have come to an understanding over my many plays, but I know this will help a lot of people.
Looks great! I might try this after church today! Happy Father’s Day fellas!
So cool. I had built it up as just a deck/guard station. I'm going to have to go back in and redo that whole area. Great build.
I am a student of the no mods so class!
Glad to see you again!
Been trying to figure out what to build there.
You might explore the building height option. You can actually build pretty high at Croup. Was thinking about building a skyscraper and/or light house design there since it is close to water.
Thanks for the rebuild tip video. Fixing it up will be way easier now 👌
You bet. And you know actually, while I was building the roof of the sunroom, I was thinking about how easy it would be to add a second story to it. Then you could built back over on top of the original house and then continue upwards 😉
Soooo glad you're back making these videos....WE'VE MISSED YOU. (family of gamers)
This was wonderful! I was really struggling with the walls and floors of that place. Im glad i found your channel becuse now i have been using that pillar method and remaking my settlements in the way i originally had planned. Thanks!!❤
Glad I could help!
I've been wondering what you'd do with Croup Manor and you not only did that but also showed me new tips on pillar glitching! Now I think I can fix the walls in a house I've already got floors in thanks to the campfire method! I'd love to see what you'd do or have done with Taffington Boathouse. That repair has me stumped so far. Great video, thanks!
Taffington is actually in my next video, so you're in luck! :)
Hey Schooled Zone! Hahahahah! I laugh because I have been following you since you first started. Very great to see you still going. Gotta admit I have been lurking a bit, but when I (re) saw this one I just had to say hi. Best of luck sir and I am looking forward to many more!
Awesome! Thank you!
I have nothing but respect for people who are able to do amazing things like this with vanilla FO4's janky, unfinished building system
19:06 yes Parapet
Phenomenal work. The pillar and firepit tip is wild!!
That campfire trick.. pure genius!
I discovered your channel a few weeks ago, when looking for a way to get rid of the ghoul remains in Croup's Manor... I've managed to clean most of them, and built a little junk mortar for the ones that refuse to leave 😅 and I'm loving your videos, you gave me a lot of inspiration and I'm learning a lot of new tricks! Cheers!
Getting rid of ghouls with a junk mortar 😅 Reminds me of this video: ruclips.net/video/sG02ZeWyOZk/видео.html
All outside walls most walls indoors and al floors and roofs can be fixed in the same way. You need to start at the bottom and build the next floor on top. Pretty hard way of building and I am loving it. You can have Group Manor always almost perfect lol.
So my old time teacher, the post trick. The barn post is even better and easier to use. Just one of the four sides of the pole will get you closer to the object, works so with all pillars and posts. So you need to figure out which side that is first. Pick up the post to high or to low or to close by, the trick won't work or your view will be hindered, so place and angle are indeed the worst part to figure out. Save and quick saves are both mandatory. a save for each floor maybe even two hard saves for each floor.
Watching this again bc I'm about to start on Croup soon myself. Remember to support your local post apocalypse handyman people, ammo is expensive
It’s so good to hear that music agar glad your back dude
Remember last time I commented I said to drop back on to starfield now look at the boom that’s had
Yep, I fix the Croup Manor myself every time I play FO4, but I use the console command to actually duplicate good sections of the original floor and walls. Takes a wile to do it this way because they don't lock in place like the building materials from the shop does. Plus, if I remember correctly, you need a mod to place these pieces where you want them. And, I'm not 100% sure, but I suspect this may cause problems with the game because these pieces were not meant to be duplicated in the game in this manner. Using the shop materials is the 100% stable way to do this, and is much easier too. Cool video! 👍👍
I just nabbed the Kingsport lighthouse from the children of atom and somewhat built there.
But now, I gotta do this at the manor!!!
I'm so doing this. 😊😊
I'm SOOO glad you're still going!!
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I did something similar in other play throughs, but this is far cooler! Thanks!
I'm 3 mine into the video and you already got me hooked, you're funny bro keep it up and I'll keep watching haha I've just started getting into fallout, (Skyrim skooma addict haha)
Greetings Paul! Thankyou very much for your response! I enjoy practicing politeness and respectful manners, and if my adress "hah--made you laugh", so much the better! (I had no other reference at the time, so went with "Mr. Zone".😅) But just the same, your content is indeed always top drawer, and it is my habit to state the facts regarding performance, quality, and quantity, etc. People seem to forget nowadays that those with ourstanding talent work hard too, and are human beings like everyone else. I get very annoyed with uncalled-for criticism toward actors, musicians, and content creators, etc. We're all prone to eccentricities, and while unhealthy behavior on the part of a creator (or anyone else) is never acceptable, people in general would be alot happier if they stopped spewing negativity and focused on the positive facts. So THERE! 😃
I agree. However I reserve the right to an occasional sarcastic comment in response for dumb comments. My pet peeve is when someone's entire comment is "First". I let them know that we are all so very proud of them and they will undoubtedly go down in history as one of the greatest commentors of all time. And that their name will be held in the highest regard till the end of time.
That was awesome. I did a vault tec build with a restaurant in that space that worked out well years ago. I'm adding vids on my channel where I recreated the carvana building with better ways to move cars. Great ways to hide wires as well. Especially with street lights. I don't want to use the wifi glitch. That can easily break your game
Genius I didn't know about the fire glitch. I have been using farm plots to plant water pumps inside buildings and poke the faucet through the wall over a tub for indoor plumbing. I only have vanilla gameplay.
Oh I forgot to mention it is a combination of farm plots plus rug glitch. 😊
Yeah, the garden plots work a little like the campfire but usually use the campfire because it's more compact and can fit into tight spaces.
That is an awesome fix! Great class and great ideas! Thanks for the video and thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experience with us.
That was beautiful! I glitched in wall and ceiling repairs but hit build limits before getting too fancy. I always have to build decent defenses which uses up a fair chunk of my build limits. I do try to attend all fights when I can… so that kinda helps me to justify the drain on limits. Kinda. If I rebuild Croup a third time, I’ll see if I can build that observatory… and maybe go one square wider around back, side and front if I can. Thanks for keepin’ on keepin’ on! ;-)
Yeah, I wanted to build one square back too but I couldn't find any decent vertical half-walls. If you come up with a solution, let me know.
I like how you approached it, it looks clean and the plant idea sounds classy.
A thought for a future build is that you can fit 4 floor units with the existing frame of the parapets. Wirh this method I had made a build that built upward either 3 or 4 floors higher than the roof.
Combining our ideas I like the idea of a tall glass skyscraper-like build and possibly wider wraparound structures that can make use of the existing house windows as vendor windows.
I had originally tried 4 floor units (2 across) but the doorway wall was too far off center. So I expanded it to 3 across and was able to center the doorway.
Hey brother I really do appreciate that bill that I just seen now the reason why I say I appreciate it is because you are planning on a console and that's what I find interesting people that like to play on PC use commands and use back doors personally me I don't I don't like that I hope to see more of your bills and if you can in the future or if you already done it I will love to see a full build on vault 88 that's the only one I have a lot of problems with maybe you can show me or tell me some good ideas
Thank you
Chris AKA whitelion
This is actually one of my favorite places to build! At least once the barn and warehouse doc came out. They make the walls really easy to fix, both interior and exterior! You can make the courtyard into a marketplace, farm on the cliff,and put a ceiling fan right where it will play whack-a-corpse all day!
"...put a ceiling fan right where it will play whack-a-corpse all day!" 😂
Welcome back, man!
Paul, great to see you back in the classroom again!! I noticed that the next-gen updates have killed the mods but what about the various wireless, rug glitches etc -- VERY happy to see pillar glitch is still a thing though!! 😁😁😁
Thanks! And all the glitches should still work unless you have certain mods installed: ruclips.net/video/xKX4E1yQkig/видео.html
I normally turn Croup Manner into a brothel-looking place. This is much better than any of the attempts I made to class up the joint. Now my clientele has a place to wait for a room to open up.
Haha I also do this. I’ve got neon lights on the house saying “Red light manor”
😂 Make sure you use those king-sized beds: ruclips.net/video/jJ6zEqaSAeQ/видео.html
PS. Love the bit with the campfire I’ll have to try and remember that! Thanks
9:56 "Floor - upper" means it's a Floor/Ceiling combo. It's meant to be the floor of the second story so you don't have to have a ceiling part underneath the floor, which is why it's "double stuffed"
Right, of course. It's just funny because in theory, Floor Upper = Ceiling and Ceiling Lower = Floor 😂
Been watching your videos for years glad your still here 🎉🎉🎉❤
Thanks for being such a longtime viewer 👊
I did a thing where i created some pillbox type things on the main entrance to protect my turrets a bit better and still allow them to shoot out. Works surprisingly well. I would share if i could.
Haha, great minds think alike: ruclips.net/video/ool9QBzDzHI/видео.html
@@SkooledZoneyeah i pillar glitched some walls to protect the body of the turret, and made it of some scrappy looking pieces.
YES! So glad to see these videos again! Cant wait for more, and maybe some from FO76? new map expansion has great spots for CAMPS
The MAN IS BACK!!!
This is so helpful managed to add an upper floor to this as well thanks you 😊
This place gives me nightmares, lol. I have recommended your build videos to so many people. You are the best…thx to you my Sanctuary ( with no mods at all) is so awesome. I couldn’t be more pleased and every time I start over it just gets better and better. I can’t thank you enough for these great videos. I’m wondering if you have thoughts on Hangman’s Alley…..that’s another trouble spot for me🤔
Thanks for the kind words (and spreading the word)! Yeah, Hangman's Alley is a tough-one. I haven't tried anything there yet because I can't think of a "theme" I want for it yet. Maybe someday something will inspire me.
Hangman's Alley is a trouble spot for everyone 😭😭 lol
I see a lot of people are doing markets/red light district type of themes over there. Not gonna lie, some of them look awesome.
😂🎉🎉🎉 hello there my friend! It makes me so happy to see a new video from you
Managed to place this on the first try. If you balance the sunroom on both sides of the house it sticks out the back a little bit I used the campfire to line up my doorway
Great idea, I'm definitely going to use this.
You really helped me out with the building in Fallout 4 i really am not good at building so thanks alot
Omg, welcome back 🎉🎉I've missed your videos
Oh you think you can just come back into my life like you never left you are absolutely right
New Skooled zone video sleep can wait.
Excellent. I have been looking for ways to actaully use the manor house.
So cool. I would love to see what you do with crap... I mean croup manor. I think it's one of the most challenging but has a ton of potential.
I think it would look really nice if you went another 1/2 floor farther out, so you encapsulate the entire balcony thing, and the white edge bit doesn't end up clipping through the end. You can do planters all around, then. Or a wraparound bench, perhaps. If the angled roof won't work that way, you could just do a flat roof.
Unfortunately, that wouldn't work, as there is no half window or half roof. There are concrete half walls, and obviously half floors, so it may be possible, but it would not look seamless.
Good to see you making fo 4 videos again
Nice to see another video from you🎉
Another great lesson-thank you for all the inspiration!
Glad to see you had the time to drop back in & give us a lesson. Do the garden plots also count as dirt for the purpose of sinking pillars?
Using that trick makes me want to work on one of my favorite settlement, the National Park Visitor's Center. Its a pain to patch that house, but the settlement itself is laid out beautifully.
Happy Father's Day, if applicable.
Only the rock portion of the campfire will allow pillars to sink through the floor beneath it. The actual fire part cannot. The garden plot is similar. You can sink a pillar anywhere in the garden plot on it's own, or on many Bethesda built floors, but if you are trying to sink through a player built floor only the edges of the garden plot will work. I have a Tips & Tricks vid called "Softening things with soft drinks" that shows what I mean on Bethesda floors around the 5:00 mark vs player built floors around the 6:00 mark. All that being said the campfire is often more convenient to use due to it's smaller size.
@@TheInsaneShecklador Thank you very much. I handicap myself w/ survival mode and often forget to catch a nap before trying to move/adjust things. Sooner or later (usually sooner) I throw up my hands in frustration.
As such, I have a few very wonky settlements, particularly Hangman's Alley.
@@Mr._Anderpson I love building in Fo4 but I can't give up my quicksaves while building. I have regular mode characters for building and separate survival mode characters for actually playing the game.
@@TheInsaneShecklador Yep, I have this strange, masochistic attraction to doing things the hard way.
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Excellent! New content, I love it.
Another thought on what to do with the parapets, especially if you do have them off center where one side has space for plants, but the other doesn't. On the "short" side, you could rug glitch in some counters/bars/etc to cover that strip and also make it look like something that belongs in the room. After all, you need storage for your tea service and a counter for your evening hors d'oeuvres in the solarium before moving to the dining room for the dinner party. 😉
Brilliant!