I have been a plasterer for 46 years and been doing 2 coats for 45 years only last year i started 1 coat sponge and my income has almost tripled i bought a new house a brand new van and i am going to see an escort every week next year i am gona buy a house in Spain and also planing to buy a nice Mercedes in a couple of years . My wife is so happy for me that she has booked herself for a boob job and a face lift . My life is so great now i could not be happier this life of being a plasterer is so amazing its like ,, LIVING THE DREAM ,, every single day , i would encourage every milenial to take it up . So thank you everyone . My life is great !!!
Used sponge float first time today after watching this video. Absolutely blew my mind. Finish is perfect and is so easy to do. Done it the old way for 15 years... never again now
Been plastering years and this is a legitimate method. A lot of comments about the thickness, it’s exactly the same thickness as two coats! That’s the point. Like people have said if you’re a good plasterer you’ll get there with any decent method. Proof is in the finish.
Nice job, a few tips for anybody interested in this method.. Use the belly of the trowel when applying a thick coat of skim this will ensure the correct thickness.. Flatten the wall using a trowel and a hawk of stuff to fill in any hollows.. When sponging the wall use as less water as possible, a small empty kitchen spray will do.. Hold the sponge at the same angle you would a trowel keeping the belly of the sponge of the wall once up from bottom once down from top there's no need floating like you would a sand and cement finish. You just need to get the fat from the plaster to spread over the top.. Two rubs with any decent skiming trowel and it's done first rub to close the wall in and fill any hollows don't remove any fat just spread it around and don't use water second rub will after a brew with clean trowel keep wiping it with a brush and you will need less water if any apart from angles brushed in..off home easy peasy
I'll try. When putting the skim on the wall try keep the leading edge of the trowel as close to the wall as you can. This way when the skim spreads on you won't here a grating noise from the sand in the thistle bond or whatever is painted on the wall. I would just pva myself for a wall like that...anyway after you put the wall on wich should take lets say 5mins or so. Take a hawk or two of stuff from the same mix and spread over the top leaving it as neet as you can.. And go clean your bucket or whatever you have to do... You have to stay on top of the wall so make sure that all your angles are clean coving and skirting lines look straight etc. This is the time saving bit When it's ready to sponge use a small spray bottle a light mist will be enough to get the sponge moving.. For a wall this sise half a mister muscle bottle will be enough. There is no need to sponge in circles.. Just use the edge of the sponge along the angles and once up and once down the wall. Keeping the middle of the float off the wall, the sponge will move smoother this way... When you've done this flatten the wall straight away using no water removing none of the skim just spread it around closing the wall in filling any hollows as you go.. The wall at this point should have a layer of fat on it. The fat is what gives the nice finish. At this point you can't go wrong clean your angles and when the wall is ready trowel up you should need very little water because the wall is full of fat just flatten it in. This is not a new method of skiming you don't need special tools a cheap sponge float about 8euro, Good skiming trowel which you should already have and give it a go..I use a traditional skiming trowel up the final rub and pollish with a flexible. This is not a criticism of the video but there is no need for the amount of water the lads use here fair play to them for putting it up.. It's a hard thankless job at the end of the day
Lovely job boys. All those plasterers who think this is not a legit method are in denial. The finish is good and you get paid on results not the amount of work you put in.
if l finished a job like that id jack it in, 2 bloks to skim a little wall jeeeeeeeeeeeez, you say the finish is good if l finished my work like that l would plaster a 3 bed house in a day.
For 12 years I've two coated apart from the odd lid or wall I couldn't be arsed with and in general, I'm with the old skool method, but I'm gonna try this way on a wall as an experiment. If it comes up as good as a two coat finish, I might use it a bit more, in situations where it saves some ball ache. However, on the whole, on areas where there are multiple joins, I'd be more inclined to stick to the traditional two coat method, as not every wall or ceiling you turn up to do is flush where the boards join.
I'm a staunch believer in two coats and steel trowels only. But eh who cares if the finish is good and when it's painted the decorator isn't cursing who cares how you get there.
Two coating 30 years and one coating like this for 7/8 years on plasterboards only and can’t tell difference once painted. Still two coat on old walls tho find its sets more evenly when troweling up.
I used to take the piss out of people who one coated, i always swore by two. Only in the past 3 months or so i've been watching these 2 other lads i work with and their finish is probably one of the best i had ever came across in 10+ years. All they did is put one thick coat on...flatten it, leave for about 15 mins and spray it all over with water, sponge floated it and trowelled it over a couple times, couldn't find a single hollow in it (on old existing walls). I tried it for myself and then started wondering what the fuck have i been doing for 10 years!?
Not my trade but I had a kitchen replastered like this 50msq approx wth 2 doors with 2 Windows I was impressed because the painting was easy no filling or rubbing - my neighbour had his hall replastered and the geezer completely cocked up left him with bumpy walls worse than before........????
After 35 years of plastering I've developed severe tennis elbow, what I'm going to take from this is to go and buy a spatula to reduce trowel use and ease pressure on my elbow. Will still be doing 2 coats though as sponge floating looks just as tough on the elbow as applying a 2nd coat with a trowel.
Had never plastered in my life, watched this video a little over a month ago, purchased the tools on eBay...Practiced one weekend in my back garden on a sheet of plasterboard, was really impressed with the results. Now I’m advertising on mybuilder and doing odd jobs evenings and weekends after work. Great video, really inspired me and created a second income stream in my spare time. Lol Got a whole house booked to do next week during school holidays!
That’s the thing about plastering that I love there’s no one “right way” of doing this everybody has his own unique way of doing things and at the end what matters is the finish you get. :)
I've used this method for years but not all the time.it does work especially if it's a small job and you want to speed it up or on an old wall that not perfectly straight and skim happens to be over heavy. Brings up a brilliant finish .only wish those long blades were out twenty yrs ago I'd still have my shoulders in one piece. Antin that makes a hard job a bit easier is a bonus. It's not up to plaster to remove sockets.nice work lads
I've been plastering for 31 years , and I'm not of fan of 1 coat plasters , plus I'm sure you don't need 2 spreads on that little wall , but with all said they have got the done ,
This can only be done inside buildings and houses where the Sun is not on those walls to EXPOSE the waveness of the walls Because no one coat system especially a finish can be done in 1 coat.In 30 years in the Unions we are exposed to Latest and greatest so called "One coat System" none of them panned to be any good.Fly by finish system maybe 1 job and then no more because of bad material system and couldn't be done in 1 Coat
If the spreads that taught me 43 years ago saw this they would self combust! Still, if it works, crack on I say. Only thing is, the wall would have to be very flat.3 or 4mm of finish won’t accommodate much of a slack.
I'm here in Southern California this will look good in interior jobs but on the outside when Critical light hits the wall look out.sll walls look bad in Critical light but it is up to the Plasterer to make those walls only look bad for a small amount of time.If a wall only looks bad for less than 5 minutes then good conscientious Plasterers worked on the wall.and Smooth Finish enhances the imperfections even more.Plastering now for 30 years in the Union.I started when E.I.F.S. the foam system really started to take off
Freaking amazing job, well done guys. Looking at some of the comments you've received, pay no attention, every wanna-be plaster has to add their two cents
hey Will, no not a plasterer as such, only done a few small areas. If I was their client or the house owner I would be super happy with the results and the smooth flawless finish. We're now 18 months down the line, so did it develop hairline cracks or not, we'll never know unless we ask them. maybe they've perfected their method. They could do my walls any time.
Any1 saying that's amazing has no idea what they are looking at .just done 17 years on price and if there is enough money in that wall to pay 2 men. Sorry but you are ripping the job off and should go and work stacking shelves at Morrison's. These 2 are not tradesmen
Mr Varus ... It's NOT the painter, it's NOT the electrician and it's NOT the joiner whose opinion you should be seeking! Try asking the bloody customer! THEY'RE the ones paying your wages! Sheesh! 😱😱🤔🤔😕😕😕
Good flat walls you'll get away with one coat bumpy or artex walls it will need two .And thank goodness vinyl silk has gone out of fashion that always showed how good your finish was .
Nice job. A lost art in the states though. Plaster is a thing of the past. Lath, brown coats, and much more. Too expensive nowadays. There’s some out there but it very far and few in between sort of trade.
I just don't know if i trust it yet. I've had a go with superflex but i haven't found it much use it. I don't feel i can get enough pressure on it for trowelling up. Maybe it just needs breaking in. Thinking about chucking some render one with it to break it in.
it does take some time to get used to. The steel is softer so the angle of the trowel and the pressure is different to using Marshall Town. Worth the persistence in my opinion. The trowels don't need any breaking in, the are good to go as soon as you buy them.
Greeat finish i must say but worried about any cracks in the future. did you use any pva? how do you know the mix you did will not show hair line crack since its not two coats! i know its volatile topic but worth asking
The two coats makes it stronger, layers are always stronger like ply wood but this looks good useful to know. Specially on plasterboard. Thanks for the video. What sponge float are you using?
There are SO MANY great products we cant buy in AmeriKa! CAn you define 'Fascism'? That is AmeriKa today! Europe has so many products i would like to try, but can't even buy them he in the AmeriKan Gulog! NICE WORK GUYS!
Well, I have been plastering for over 40 years, the whole point of two coat skim is any imperfections are not rectified with one coat, the only time I will one coat is in a cupboard, the one coat stem is crap
Wait 20 min oh I can't as it already going rock hard I put two coats of plaster on and still dries out fast. Multifinish is well in date, I hav e to get cracking and there's only myself doing it wish I had someone doing the mix etc I'm still learning
good method but been a plasterer for 31 years prefer usind steel to lay on then nella superflex 2 to finish.have used sponge in past and spats but mostly use trowels
Been plastering for 10 years...like to put on and then lay down with traditional steel ,recently bought a Nela superflex mark 2...love the feel of it. also about to buy the Nela plastic finishing trowel..would you do the 2 polishes nela superflex or the first polish with steel and then Nela superflex
london-plasterer.com thanks for the fast reply, was looking on e bay for one but wasn't sure which one to get , was looking at the blue refina fine sponge float , think ill buy them both ☺, have you ever used the fine one's?
This is down to personal preference.. only thing with metal spats is the tend to warp and lose there shape. The other thing is it can draw the water out to the surface and can increase setting time.. i personally prefer plastic, the more rigid versions made by Refina, as they tend to hold there shape and last the longest.. they are a bit more expensive though. But if your starting out the plastic Ox Speedskims are good.. then maybe can look to add to your arsenal of tools in time. I hope that helps!
Michael Burr in a bucket of what or under a tap and push the plaster out with your hand a much as you can.. it won't be perfect but you can get a good six months constant use out of It before it needs replacing.
@@Coecoebrown light isnt at a sharp enough angle to see the pits in it, from a real plasterer this looks discusting, very unprofessional Spongers are not real plasterers! Click on my name and youll see traditional plastering and how it should be done start to finish, this is just fraud for those that have no technique
@@DanSoloPlastering I get your point, to an extent. However, all trades evolve in terms of processes and equipment. Bricky mate of mine worked with an old plasterer that wouldn't use a mechanical mixer and insisted on using an old metal 'bath' to mix in. Anything new, to him, wasn't 'traditional' and therefore was to be dismissed. You can't deny their speed and in reality they'd be a bit slower as the point of the video was to show the speed. Go back 20 years and you'd be taught to use one trowel which you'd need to break in. Now there are supa-flex trowels, speedskims and plastic trowels. Times change. Best embrace it.
i did this method today in a room..afterwards i could feel where the boards were kicking out on the joints..i know this does happen but thought maybe i was missing something suttle in the process 🤔
Hi Dean, could be you didn't lay on thick enough. Also use the spat starting from the bottom going up not from left to right where there are joints. Maybe go over it a couple of times with the spat that way if the boarding is not great.
We had the same problem. Had the room dot n dabbed and room was plastered using this same method. Joints on boards were visible, but on the 2 overskimmed walls they were bang on. Thre next room I used another spread I know who is more of the 2 coats with a trowel and every wall was bang on, whether it be d n d or over skimmed.
British gypsum multifinish mate , its good and bad , nicest and fastest plaster you will ever use to put on and work once you have used it a couple times but its not great as far as breathability and stuff goes , when somebody can creat a modern plaster that goes on like multifinish but has the advantages of natural stuff they will be rich as f**k.
Evening squires..do you put much pressure on the sponge. Also, do you see any faint lines left behind after you flatten that then come out with the wet trowel. cheers 👍
Dean Arnold u need to put some pressure on the sponge so you can liven up the surface of the plaster. Almost making the second coat on the wall. Should leave a nice cream to trowel up. Shouldn't see any lines, should leave a matt and even finish.. if you see lines then yes, should come out with a final hard press trowel.
Do you not get call backs with cracks appearing in time doing it that way ? I've always done two and only use sponge on over set or dragging plaster didn't realise you could use it to manipulate a second coat going on
How do u go on about a plaster board wall with scrim do u double coat it were the scrim is or just as you are doing in the video thanks Micky please reply very good video
Michael Burr it's exactly the same process as seen here.. the video doesn't show how thick we are putting on.. but it is 3mm thick.. that's usually the same thickness of two coats.. it's just that we are used to putting that thick first time.. it's take a bit of time to get used to putting on 3mm thick in one go.. I recommend to start with put two coats on straight away, no waiting around between coats and try and use the same mix.. when a little more confident then try putting in 3mm first time..
In my country multi-finish us not popular due the price. We use thick layer renders as Knauf Rotband, Goldband, MP 75. There are also available other manufacturers - western and eastern europe ones. And basically, they all recomend to work with gypsum based render similar way as you do. Only difference is thicness of layer our minimum (recommended) is from 5mm. And I personally havent never seen in my country somebody plastering a drywall. We use Sheetrock and similar stuff for that. Actually, there are few times, when i do render a drywall, but that means, that somebody has had really poor quality and is not getting paid for it
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stick a l.e.d light on it when it dries up,looks great when flattening in with a refina but you need a stiff trowel to water your walls refina drags fat every where.i first and second with a stiff marshel town trowel flatten once with refina leave it for a while then finnish of with marshel town trowel then use refina for a polish
That's the best way and if you want it quicker throw some dirty water or cement in there I did a set yesterday only a small one but finished it in 1hour and a half from start to finish it did go a bit fast hahaha
most of the properties in the uk are solid walls , plaster boards are only used on partitions and ceilings in a traditional building , and any skim coat should be 2 mm . and the first rough coat should be no less than 3/8 with the finish at 1/8 .
Cowboys.... how can you leave sockets on the wall while skimming? It have only 2 screws to take it off :D I guess its tooooo dificuilt for plasterer.... :p
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I have been a plasterer for 46 years and been doing 2 coats for 45 years only last year i started 1 coat sponge and my income has almost tripled i bought a new house a brand new van and i am going to see an escort every week next year i am gona buy a house in Spain and also planing to buy a nice Mercedes in a couple of years . My wife is so happy for me that she has booked herself for a boob job and a face lift . My life is so great now i could not be happier this life of being a plasterer is so amazing its like ,, LIVING THE DREAM ,, every single day , i would encourage every milenial to take it up . So thank you everyone . My life is great !!!
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Used sponge float first time today after watching this video. Absolutely blew my mind. Finish is perfect and is so easy to do. Done it the old way for 15 years... never again now
Been plastering years and this is a legitimate method. A lot of comments about the thickness, it’s exactly the same thickness as two coats! That’s the point. Like people have said if you’re a good plasterer you’ll get there with any decent method. Proof is in the finish.
Nah you've not been plastering for years,
I cant see the benifit personally put your 1st coat on flat lay it down 3 trowels its done
All.l that water is breaking it down
im not a big fan of one coat system but i love how u guys work u look like u love ur job and clearly u guys know what u are doing
Years of practice and a great skill. Not for the average man. Not everyone can learn this skill
Like so many things people make look easy; you think, I can do that. No, no you can't in the time these gents took to do it.
It’s not a skill to put a fat first coat on the wall and sponge it. If anything it takes the skill out of plastering
Nice job, a few tips for anybody interested in this method.. Use the belly of the trowel when applying a thick coat of skim this will ensure the correct thickness.. Flatten the wall using a trowel and a hawk of stuff to fill in any hollows.. When sponging the wall use as less water as possible, a small empty kitchen spray will do.. Hold the sponge at the same angle you would a trowel keeping the belly of the sponge of the wall once up from bottom once down from top there's no need floating like you would a sand and cement finish. You just need to get the fat from the plaster to spread over the top.. Two rubs with any decent skiming trowel and it's done first rub to close the wall in and fill any hollows don't remove any fat just spread it around and don't use water second rub will after a brew with clean trowel keep wiping it with a brush and you will need less water if any apart from angles brushed in..off home easy peasy
Shay Doyle
Can you say that again but go through point by point please?
I find it hard to follow. It's not you, but me.
Cheers
I'll try. When putting the skim on the wall try keep the leading edge of the trowel as close to the wall as you can. This way when the skim spreads on you won't here a grating noise from the sand in the thistle bond or whatever is painted on the wall. I would just pva myself for a wall like that...anyway after you put the wall on wich should take lets say 5mins or so. Take a hawk or two of stuff from the same mix and spread over the top leaving it as neet as you can.. And go clean your bucket or whatever you have to do... You have to stay on top of the wall so make sure that all your angles are clean coving and skirting lines look straight etc. This is the time saving bit
When it's ready to sponge use a small spray bottle a light mist will be enough to get the sponge moving.. For a wall this sise half a mister muscle bottle will be enough.
There is no need to sponge in circles.. Just use the edge of the sponge along the angles and once up and once down the wall.
Keeping the middle of the float off the wall, the sponge will move smoother this way...
When you've done this flatten the wall straight away using no water removing none of the skim just spread it around closing the wall in filling any hollows as you go.. The wall at this point should have a layer of fat on it. The fat is what gives the nice finish. At this point you can't go wrong clean your angles and when the wall is ready trowel up you should need very little water because the wall is full of fat just flatten it in.
This is not a new method of skiming you don't need special tools a cheap sponge float about 8euro,
Good skiming trowel which you should already have and give it a go..I use a traditional skiming trowel up the final rub and pollish with a flexible.
This is not a criticism of the video but there is no need for the amount of water the lads use here fair play to them for putting it up..
It's a hard thankless job at the end of the day
Shay Doyle Thanks Shay, appreciated
Lovely job boys. All those plasterers who think this is not a legit method are in denial. The finish is good and you get paid on results not the amount of work you put in.
those who think this is not a legit method are just butthurt "professionals"
if l finished a job like that id jack it in, 2 bloks to skim a little wall jeeeeeeeeeeeez, you say the finish is good if l finished my work like that l would plaster a 3 bed house in a day.
Absolute shite lads you see how good you're work is when its painted a good decorator will always recommend a good plasterer!
Thanks for commendation. I also appreciate you work, seen a few of your videos. Let us know if you want to do a collaboration!
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I think these young men did a great job
For 12 years I've two coated apart from the odd lid or wall I couldn't be arsed with and in general, I'm with the old skool method, but I'm gonna try this way on a wall as an experiment. If it comes up as good as a two coat finish, I might use it a bit more, in situations where it saves some ball ache. However, on the whole, on areas where there are multiple joins, I'd be more inclined to stick to the traditional two coat method, as not every wall or ceiling you turn up to do is flush where the boards join.
I'm a staunch believer in two coats and steel trowels only. But eh who cares if the finish is good and when it's painted the decorator isn't cursing who cares how you get there.
Two coating 30 years and one coating like this for 7/8 years on plasterboards only and can’t tell difference once painted. Still two coat on old walls tho find its sets more evenly when troweling up.
That looks really satisfying to do
I used to take the piss out of people who one coated, i always swore by two.
Only in the past 3 months or so i've been watching these 2 other lads i work with and their finish is probably one of the best i had ever came across in 10+ years.
All they did is put one thick coat on...flatten it, leave for about 15 mins and spray it all over with water, sponge floated it and trowelled it over a couple times, couldn't find a single hollow in it (on old existing walls). I tried it for myself and then started wondering what the fuck have i been doing for 10 years!?
goldenalex one think coat is the best away
goldenalex I do just one coat
One coat all day
Not my trade but I had a kitchen replastered like this 50msq approx wth 2 doors with 2 Windows I was impressed because the painting was easy no filling or rubbing - my neighbour had his hall replastered and the geezer completely cocked up left him with bumpy walls worse than before........????
I have been plastering for 10 years and one coat is for people who don't know how to plaster set of cowboys
At the end of the day, if it’s smooth and will last, then what’s the problem?
After 35 years of plastering I've developed severe tennis elbow, what I'm going to take from this is to go and buy a spatula to reduce trowel use and ease pressure on my elbow. Will still be doing 2 coats though as sponge floating looks just as tough on the elbow as applying a 2nd coat with a trowel.
Had never plastered in my life, watched this video a little over a month ago, purchased the tools on eBay...Practiced one weekend in my back garden on a sheet of plasterboard, was really impressed with the results.
Now I’m advertising on mybuilder and doing odd jobs evenings and weekends after work.
Great video, really inspired me and created a second income stream in my spare time. Lol
Got a whole house booked to do next week during school holidays!
R B your joking right 😂
That’s the thing about plastering that I love there’s no one “right way” of doing this everybody has his own unique way of doing things and at the end what matters is the finish you get. :)
Yeah,there are loads of ways of plastering,it's just there's only one way of doing it properly.
Nothing a load off easyfill can put right lol
Exactly. On plaster board one coat no problem. Olds walls 2 coats.
I've used this method for years but not all the time.it does work especially if it's a small job and you want to speed it up or on an old wall that not perfectly straight and skim happens to be over heavy. Brings up a brilliant finish .only wish those long blades were out twenty yrs ago I'd still have my shoulders in one piece. Antin that makes a hard job a bit easier is a bonus. It's not up to plaster to remove sockets.nice work lads
I've been plastering for 31 years , and I'm not of fan of 1 coat plasters , plus I'm sure you don't need 2 spreads on that little wall , but with all said they have got the done ,
stevep they are gifted from college.
This can only be done inside buildings and houses where the Sun is not on those walls to EXPOSE the waveness of the walls Because no one coat system especially a finish can be done in 1 coat.In 30 years in the Unions we are exposed to Latest and greatest so called "One coat System" none of them panned to be any good.Fly by finish system maybe 1 job and then no more because of bad material system and couldn't be done in 1 Coat
I've been plastering for 89 years..nice work lads..
I initially tried one coat plaster using different method and it was bad enough to put me off. I will give this method a try and see how it goes.
These two lads are quick.
I have done so much mudding my body starts hurting watching this, lol.
Respect for hard working People's
Absolutely brilliant job you’ve done that before lovely work larrysullivan in London
Many thanks!
NYC job guys,,, is that blue tool u are using to flatten made up of steel or rubber
You guys are so good
Those trowels are magical.
This arguments been going on for years...
Rental: 1 coat
Owner: 2 coats
You make it look so easy. Having never plastered myself, I’d still be worried I’d make a big mess and have to call someone in.
Aaron Agnew-Griffith Snap
Practice makes perfect give it a go
Aaron suck it
Made it look like hard work
I could do it on my own in five minutes lol two lads for a small wall like that
I dont know about 5 mins on your own but yea.
Don't talk shiet!
One spraying water and the other on the sponge and your man sticking his head round the door occasionally 😂
There's me , 4hr in and still trying to get the protruding lines out 🥱😂
I have not seen that giant spatula in the US. Was thinking of making one... and see it here for the first time.
It's called a speed skim dude you can get a 1200mm nela finishing spatula over there in the u.s.a
If the spreads that taught me 43 years ago saw this they would self combust!
Still, if it works, crack on I say.
Only thing is, the wall would have to be very flat.3 or 4mm of finish won’t accommodate much of a slack.
I'm here in Southern California this will look good in interior jobs but on the outside when Critical light hits the wall look out.sll walls look bad in Critical light but it is up to the Plasterer to make those walls only look bad for a small amount of time.If a wall only looks bad for less than 5 minutes then good conscientious Plasterers worked on the wall.and Smooth Finish enhances the imperfections even more.Plastering now for 30 years in the Union.I started when E.I.F.S. the foam system really started to take off
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Freaking amazing job, well done guys. Looking at some of the comments you've received, pay no attention, every wanna-be plaster has to add their two cents
hey Will, no not a plasterer as such, only done a few small areas. If I was their client or the house owner I would be super happy with the results and the smooth flawless finish. We're now 18 months down the line, so did it develop hairline cracks or not, we'll never know unless we ask them. maybe they've perfected their method. They could do my walls any time.
I'm a time serverd plasterer with 30 years experience so I'm allowed a view and it's not a good way of skimming, to slow
Any1 saying that's amazing has no idea what they are looking at .just done 17 years on price and if there is enough money in that wall to pay 2 men. Sorry but you are ripping the job off and should go and work stacking shelves at Morrison's. These 2 are not tradesmen
If a painter hasn't got a problem with it = good job
If a ceramic tiler hasn't got a problem with it = good job
Mr Varus the joiner might have a moan plastering over the frame - when he comes to put the architrave on
If the paint and tiles fall off the wall 6mths later = shit job
@@sbnqy Why would that happen?
Mr Varus ... It's NOT the painter, it's NOT the electrician and it's NOT the joiner whose opinion you should be seeking! Try asking the bloody customer! THEY'RE the ones paying your wages! Sheesh! 😱😱🤔🤔😕😕😕
@@boblewis5558 But i'm not looking for an opinion????????????
Very high level finish...good job
Good flat walls you'll get away with one coat bumpy or artex walls it will need two .And thank goodness vinyl silk has gone out of fashion that always showed how good your finish was .
That seems like loads more work than just putting on a second coat and sponging it.
Two men one wall seems a bit of a waste of time
You don't sponge finish mate 😂
@@holyherb1234 Not if it takes half the time....what's the difference??
Nice job. A lost art in the states though. Plaster is a thing of the past. Lath, brown coats, and much more. Too expensive nowadays. There’s some out there but it very far and few in between sort of trade.
I just don't know if i trust it yet. I've had a go with superflex but i haven't found it much use it. I don't feel i can get enough pressure on it for trowelling up. Maybe it just needs breaking in. Thinking about chucking some render one with it to break it in.
it does take some time to get used to. The steel is softer so the angle of the trowel and the pressure is different to using Marshall Town. Worth the persistence in my opinion. The trowels don't need any breaking in, the are good to go as soon as you buy them.
Paint ready in a day and not as easy as it looks for a novice like myself that's why I do the best I can and learn from my mistakes.
Looks good lads.but wots it look like when u put silk paint on it .??
before plastering someone should call sparky to sort those surface mounted sockets out .
Greeat finish i must say but worried about any cracks in the future. did you use any pva? how do you know the mix you did will not show hair line crack since its not two coats! i know its volatile topic but worth asking
Looks good but how are 2 lads making any money doing a wall between them?
Small wall for two lads.
Super dooper we got a 1 swooper . And was this over thistle bond it ??🤠🤠🤠🤠🤠
Faisal
I need that English plaster here in Poland. Can’t buy it anymore after Brexit
Can u make a video with same process on a ceiling please really enjoyed video micky
that will be my best video..
2:39 i like the way he moves
The two coats makes it stronger, layers are always stronger like ply wood but this looks good useful to know. Specially on plasterboard. Thanks for the video. What sponge float are you using?
Cracking job boys
very rare I ever follow or see good plastering work these lads look top draw
How do you know its flat at all without screeds?
There are SO MANY great products we cant buy in AmeriKa! CAn you define 'Fascism'? That is AmeriKa today! Europe has so many products i would like to try, but can't even buy them he in the AmeriKan Gulog!
NICE WORK GUYS!
The background will have to be very low suction for this method to work .. probs the reason why they blue gritted the wall first
Put masking tape over the edge of that door frame and pull it off on final rub up… the joiners and painters will love you.
I LOVE IT! WISH I COULF DO THAT!!!!
No marshalltown were hurt in the process of making this,, think I'll stick tae my mt boys,, got a few spats, though they're no bad for flattening in,,
Well, I have been plastering for over 40 years, the whole point of two coat skim is any imperfections are not rectified with one coat, the only time I will one coat is in a cupboard, the one coat stem is crap
Nice work!
Wait 20 min oh I can't as it already going rock hard I put two coats of plaster on and still dries out fast. Multifinish is well in date, I hav e to get cracking and there's only myself doing it wish I had someone doing the mix etc I'm still learning
How about the ceiling?Same prodecure?
good method but been a plasterer for 31 years prefer usind steel to lay on then nella superflex 2 to finish.have used sponge in past and spats but mostly use trowels
Been plastering for 10 years...like to put on and then lay down with traditional steel ,recently bought a Nela superflex mark 2...love the feel of it. also about to buy the Nela plastic finishing trowel..would you do the 2 polishes nela superflex or the first polish with steel and then Nela superflex
looks great👌what kind of sponge float are you using?
peter fido refina 18 inch medium course sponge float.
london-plasterer.com thanks for the fast reply, was looking on e bay for one but wasn't sure which one to get , was looking at the blue refina fine sponge float , think ill buy them both ☺, have you ever used the fine one's?
peter fido I have used the fine ones, don't work as well on multifinish.. fine sponges work well with finishing renders
london-plasterer.com thank you 👍
Is metal spatula beter then plastic? What is your opinion?I'm thinking of buying OX speedskim spatula
This is down to personal preference.. only thing with metal spats is the tend to warp and lose there shape. The other thing is it can draw the water out to the surface and can increase setting time.. i personally prefer plastic, the more rigid versions made by Refina, as they tend to hold there shape and last the longest.. they are a bit more expensive though. But if your starting out the plastic Ox Speedskims are good.. then maybe can look to add to your arsenal of tools in time. I hope that helps!
Did yo method on Monday worked very well thanks is it the same on a ceiling what is the best way to clean my sponge float mick
Michael Burr in a bucket of what or under a tap and push the plaster out with your hand a much as you can.. it won't be perfect but you can get a good six months constant use out of It before it needs replacing.
Shine a light down it!
I bet it looks like the surface of the moon 😆 just follow the instructions on the bag 🤦🏼♂️
3:50 there is a light...looks like their technique is working 🤷🏽♀️
@@Coecoebrown light isnt at a sharp enough angle to see the pits in it, from a real plasterer this looks discusting, very unprofessional
Spongers are not real plasterers!
Click on my name and youll see traditional plastering and how it should be done start to finish, this is just fraud for those that have no technique
@@DanSoloPlastering I get your point, to an extent. However, all trades evolve in terms of processes and equipment. Bricky mate of mine worked with an old plasterer that wouldn't use a mechanical mixer and insisted on using an old metal 'bath' to mix in. Anything new, to him, wasn't 'traditional' and therefore was to be dismissed. You can't deny their speed and in reality they'd be a bit slower as the point of the video was to show the speed. Go back 20 years and you'd be taught to use one trowel which you'd need to break in. Now there are supa-flex trowels, speedskims and plastic trowels. Times change. Best embrace it.
@@bladeboy2041 Same with bricklaying, nobody builds corners now, its profiles or box section all the way.
It’s a shame as you’re right they do evolve but for speed and not quality
i did this method today in a room..afterwards i could feel where the boards were kicking out on the joints..i know this does happen but thought maybe i was missing something suttle in the process 🤔
Hi Dean, could be you didn't lay on thick enough. Also use the spat starting from the bottom going up not from left to right where there are joints. Maybe go over it a couple of times with the spat that way if the boarding is not great.
We had the same problem. Had the room dot n dabbed and room was plastered using this same method. Joints on boards were visible, but on the 2 overskimmed walls they were bang on. Thre next room I used another spread I know who is more of the 2 coats with a trowel and every wall was bang on, whether it be d n d or over skimmed.
@@SME_Ste that's because your boarding was not layed flat and true
Sponge and refina make a job absolutely different😁
What is the equivalent of this product here in the US? We can't get this, the only thing that's close to it is USG Structolite
British gypsum multifinish mate , its good and bad , nicest and fastest plaster you will ever use to put on and work once you have used it a couple times but its not great as far as breathability and stuff goes , when somebody can creat a modern plaster that goes on like multifinish but has the advantages of natural stuff they will be rich as f**k.
Hows it look with white paint on is the question...!
Evening squires..do you put much pressure on the sponge. Also, do you see any faint lines left behind after you flatten that then come out with the wet trowel. cheers 👍
Dean Arnold u need to put some pressure on the sponge so you can liven up the surface of the plaster. Almost making the second coat on the wall. Should leave a nice cream to trowel up. Shouldn't see any lines, should leave a matt and even finish.. if you see lines then yes, should come out with a final hard press trowel.
All these comments slagging them off 😴never had a problem with one coat plastering
Hope you sorted them angles out
I would like to see this wall after painting and LED lights. 🙃
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Do you not get call backs with cracks appearing in time doing it that way ? I've always done two and only use sponge on over set or dragging plaster didn't realise you could use it to manipulate a second coat going on
How do u go on about a plaster board wall with scrim do u double coat it were the scrim is or just as you are doing in the video thanks Micky please reply very good video
Michael Burr it's exactly the same process as seen here.. the video doesn't show how thick we are putting on.. but it is 3mm thick.. that's usually the same thickness of two coats.. it's just that we are used to putting that thick first time.. it's take a bit of time to get used to putting on 3mm thick in one go.. I recommend to start with put two coats on straight away, no waiting around between coats and try and use the same mix.. when a little more confident then try putting in 3mm first time..
is finish not only to be applied 3mm to 5mm thick...lay in coat with a plastic trowel same effect
Guy coming in the door at the beginning 🤣🤣
I'm inspired. Thanks.
Awesome work. That looks like it would kill your arms and back
Enjoyed a good work and almost at the end i realized, that you guys are using gypsum render tecnology :)
We are using Gypsum Multi-Finish in the video. Which render system are you referring to?
In my country multi-finish us not popular due the price. We use thick layer renders as Knauf Rotband, Goldband, MP 75. There are also available other manufacturers - western and eastern europe ones. And basically, they all recomend to work with gypsum based render similar way as you do. Only difference is thicness of layer our minimum (recommended) is from 5mm. And I personally havent never seen in my country somebody plastering a drywall. We use Sheetrock and similar stuff for that. Actually, there are few times, when i do render a drywall, but that means, that somebody has had really poor quality and is not getting paid for it
don't look to bad to be honest but will stick with the 2 coat method i think
Well done!!
👍think i might have sponged a little early in the past..if i try to flatten the lines straight away they dont really come straight out.
Yo también se de empastado pero que pasa si la pared es descuadrada de seguro que te demoras....... no digo que su trabajo no es impresionante porque para mi lo es .... pero hay un pro y contra en este arte de verdad éxitos amigos buen trabajo
stick a l.e.d light on it when it dries up,looks great when flattening in with a refina but you need a stiff trowel to water your walls refina drags fat every where.i first and second with a stiff marshel town trowel flatten once with refina leave it for a while then finnish of with marshel town trowel then use refina for a polish
That's the best way and if you want it quicker throw some dirty water or cement in there I did a set yesterday only a small one but finished it in 1hour and a half from start to finish it did go a bit fast hahaha
Too much plastic these days .need 1 good hard troweling and polish
Edges brushed?
Looks like not 😂
You can only tell a good skim once painted and seen in strong sunlight.
I haven’t seen this done in Canada in a long time. What’s the point of plastering? What is it? It is similar to a skim coat of drywall mud?
most of the properties in the uk are solid walls , plaster boards are only used on partitions and ceilings in a traditional building , and any skim coat should be 2 mm . and the first rough coat should be no less than 3/8 with the finish at 1/8 .
lovely jubbly boys 10 out of 9 :)
Bravo London-Plasterer
I thought those ergo grip refina spats was for finishing stages only as the blade is 0.3mm like a superflex,
Whats the point of step 5? Why was it not finished at step 4?
Cowboys.... how can you leave sockets on the wall while skimming? It have only 2 screws to take it off :D I guess its tooooo dificuilt for plasterer.... :p
Isn’t multifinish a 2mm coat max?
Why is it important to complete screeding before bleedwater appear on the surface?
Is this wall care?