No doubt. Especially in the case of the Petit family. I can’t tell you how angry that story made me. “Duh, turn around Roscoe. Fergot muh vest”! Gross negligence and incompetence should be a more serious offense when lives are at stake, you have the power to basically kidnap people at gun point, and there exists such a thing as “qualified immunity “.
@@torachan23 no. Train them better and actually hold them accountable. I actually know a lot of really good officers who are good people and love serving others. There are bad apples everywhere, though. Good cops would be the first to say that.
In Nona's case: how tf can forensics fail to collect ALL the evidence. 🤦♀️ I can't stand it when someone fails to do their frickin job properly, especially when lives are at stake. 🤬
I think they didn't do a thorough job because they 1000% believed the case was solved . Any fingerprint involving the bf , after a 5 year relationship can too easily be speculated . Luckily he's innocent because it was fumbled from the beginning 😩
That footage in the supermarket REALLY Freaked me out. I was stalked for a week by a man I delivered a pizza to an interacted with for barely 30 seconds. Scariest part of it is I NEVER would have known I was being stalked. It was my fellow employees who told me about some guy who kept calling the store and ordering pizza asking for me specifically to deliver it. Then he would ask whoever answered the store phone , (usually a 15 or 16 year old girl) for my number and address claiming he was an old highschool friend who had just moved back to Philly and wanted to surprise me with his return. when none of that worked because everyone in the store was told he spent the final two days of the week sitting in the bar across the street from my Shop. sitting right by the back door which was always open, watching me work and trying his high school friend story on anyone he watched either talk to me or just come from the store to the bar. even when he'd try his story on someone who knew what was happening and that person called him a liar he'd just keep it up. A good friend of mine Was the bartender there FRI Night and he said I'm gonna end it. he told five other guys we knew to come hang that night. when they were all there and knew what was up, my friend gave the stalker a shot on the house and did one himself. Then he said if you don't stop this shit and disappear look down the bar and tell me what you think will happen. he looked down and all the guys were looking him right in the eyes. lol that was it far as I know. like I said . interacted with this man for 30 seconds while he paid his bill. if not for all the employees telling me what he was doing I never would have had a clue until he already had my address and number
Nona murderer lived almost right next to her, was know to be obsessed with her and has a history of violence. How did the police not get him? He was right there!
Because they weren't looking for real evidence left by who actually killed her. They were trying trying to look for evidence that will make the boyfriend look guilty. They had made up their mind that he was the killer and were trying to fit evidence in that scenario. They wanted to pin the muder on him instead of actually doing their job, investigate and catch the real killer. They probably forgot that "everyone is a suspect until the real culprit is caught" or "everyone is innocent until proven guilty." The were trying to prove Kevin guilty instead of finding the real culprit.
Story 3 is infuriating! I can't beleive police didn't go straight to the woman's address to save her and her family 😡. If she was committing bank fraud they could have dealt with it later.
So true, if money is threatened then they’re straight on the scene. When it’s human life at stake, “oooh it could take a little while before we reach you”.
I actually live in Russellville, knew Nona, and live a 1/4 mile from the apt she was murdered in. The police here are incompetent, to put it mildly. I know most people say that about their small town police, but I REALLY mean it. They completely fumbled her case on so many levels. Dunn did it. He's admitted to "friends" that he did it. It's pretty well common knowledge around here.
She didn't deserve what happened to her. She was the victim, no one had the right to take her life. Unless the victim posed a danger to others, the "he/she was not innocent" is very cruel and insensitive.
@@toufusoup I NEVER said she deserved what happened to her. I wouldn't say that about my worst enemy. But, when her and her besties bully someone so bad they attempt to unalive themselves? Not ok.
@@Muirmaiden Algorithms flag key words. The proper word for it is a key word. I'm sorry, I assumed most people that use the internet knew how the algorithms work.
Exactly. And "team" being the magic word. ALL of them forgot??? What a Mayberry PD. On second thought: even Barney Fife always remembers to put his one bullet in his gun.🤗
I'd really to know how that one happened by accident. And while I can't explain or provide any evidence it seems like an on purpose to me. SWAT teams a lot of them are made up of former military. Marines soldiers some of which served in advance infantry or even special forces. They would absolutely unequivocally never forget something so vital.
@@voiceofreason1208 I’m with you. Seems really fishy too, that PD assumed the wife was involved in a bank scheme…and why did the police chief stall on getting to the house?? They could have arrived at the home WELL before Jennifer made it back there with the 2nd killer, if they took anything about the bank teller’s findings serious.
It's absolutely shameful how many of these cases are marred by the absolute incompetence of the police, especially the hostage situation where the idiot chief told officers to stay away until he got there & then SWAT had to turn around & go back because they forgot their vests? What sort of useless idiot is running a SWAT team that can't remember basic equipment when they get called out? This poor man lost his entire family because of the incompetent idiocy of these clowns in uniform & unfortunately he probably won't be the last.
Story 3 was a lot worse than many people know, not only were the daughters and the mother being s***ually abused by one of them. That was all going on, while the police were outside trying to decide weather or not they were going to escape from a certain door and weather they were a threat or not. All of that decision making, took the worse part of half an hour and they did not consider the fact that there was a family inside that home that had just experienced the worse thing possible anyone could ever face in their lives. I do hope they all R.I.P
Right?! This "summary" is a mockery. To this day, that story is the WORSE I have ever heard. I remember being absolutely gutted and distraught after hearing the full tale. For anyone interested, look further into it. The backstory of the perpetrators and the horrific atrocities that family endured while the police grossly failed them is something you will never forget. As soon as I seen their faces, I said burn in hell. I'll never forget the journal entries by Josh and Steven's suicide letter. Josh was a monster, at least Steven had sense of remorse from the shame and humility for what a disgusting and weak coward he was to be sucked into that pedophiles "robbery."
@@aleeshaj2084 Yes you are right, I see the full documentary and the things you find out about the two disgusting men, if you can call them men it's horrible. Those women and children did not need to suffer through any of their disgusting actions......then to find out their backgrounds was just horrifying. The police made a major f**k up, were careless and should be punished themselves for not taking action when they needed to.
I think police need better pay *after* getting far more training. It also seems that many cops are promoted in the wrong way - because they are popular, not skilled or smart. There also needs to be an easier way to sue them or prosecute them for not doing their job. In many areas, they show up when called, ask a few questions, write out a report, yet do no research and otherwise blow it off. In at least one state, a citizen cannot get the state B.I. to investigate - only the sheriff is allowed to do that.
@@genkiferal7178 my hometown is Cheshire the town has hardly any crime-speeding, a little theft, and dui’s. I say this as a pro cop person: the cheshire cops royally screwed up. Instead of going to the Petit’s house they went to the bank. They prevented poor Dr Petit from running back in the house to save his daughters and wife. They had plenty of time to breech the house and save the wife from being raped by Steven and the youngest daughter being raped by that pedophile Josh. The poor eldest died of smoke inhalation trying to get out.
I live about 20 mins from Cheshire and this story gutted our entire state. What that family went thru was absolutely horrific and the cops failed them horribly. If anyone deserves to die for their crimes it was those 2. Connie and Alisha's comments above pretty much said all that needed to be said. RIP Petit girls, you all deserved better 🙏🏼💗
This one could have almost been titled ‘Devastating Police Fuck Ups’-not cross checking the time on a receipt (literally the only thing that would make it an alibi), opting to protect a bank from possibly being swindled over helping a possibly kidnapped family (only to finally show up with an entire SWAT team who somehow all left their bulletproof vests back at whatever camouflage colored Mickey Mouse Club House they operate out of), and doing nothing when a woman reports her attempted murder, so she ends up (wait for it) MURDERED.
The police were literally created to protect the rich and they're interests and they're very well aware that their budgets will be slashed if they don't say, protect a bank over one random family
seeeeeeeeeeeeeee this what we Black people been trying to tell ya'll. This is YA'LL police force. This type of NON work is something we know ALL too well!!! Idk you Liz but you articulated this SOOOOOOOOOOOO well.
The Petit Family is one of those stories you don't forget. It's gut wrenching & gives you pause on how random running into danger can be, by simply going to the grocery store.
There is a heartbreaking documentary about the case. It goes to show that you can have all the privileges America can bestow and still be touched by evil.
He became a politician after? They didn't kill him? He survived? They just left him alone didn't kill him? He shortly remarried after? The police and swat actively made decisions that ruined the case? No one suspicious? At all? He remarried in 2012 his family was R and M in 2007 assuming the couple started dating years before that's essentially no time..... again.... they brutally murdered the woman but he somehow got away..... it's shocking no one is saying anything. I also found out his family has political connections. He at the time had the influence to control police and swat into those horrible calls and to not investigate this obvious clue....... silent......
The scheme is generally to withdraw your own funds and not properly document some part of the process, or in some other way sabotage the process, in order to blame the bank and have the funds dispersed a second time. It's not as common anymore in the digital age, and it absolutely shouldn't have been an excuse used by the police to not properly follow up. Basically, if it was a scheme, bank fraud takes time to investigate and prove, so that's really not an excuse to wait. On the other hand, if they are legitimately being held under duress, time is of the essence. This was inexcusable sloppy policing, plain and simple.
@@Datura981 great explanation, Thank You ! i just wsh more people could see your post. can you , please, repost it on the main page? that would be so helpful for people to understand with Your TWO great points. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I’ve been stalked before and learned a habit that has probably kept me out of being stalked again. When I get out of the store I don’t drive straight home, I drive around and take a few extra turns just to make sure nobody is following me. People can call me paranoid but the best way to see if someone is following you is to take four consecutive left turns, if the car or person is still there, they’re likely stalking you.
I live in Russellville. My sister played softball with her boyfriend in High School. They were broken up when this happened. The murder weapon was laying across her body. He knelt next to the body and got her blood on his clothes. He lifted a lamp off of her body so he could check for a pulse. And FYI, Russellville Police are notoriously lazy! They took him to trial over is 3 times and all 3 times there was a mistrial. They bankrupted this poor kid's family with legal fees. They sued the city a few years back to recover the legal fees. It's the 3rd time the actions of Russellville police have caused the city to be sued. That supposed kidnapping only got him 5 years in prison, not 15. A lot of us think that was a setup. The incident was supposed to have happened in the parking lot of the church that ""literally"" runs this town.
He truly loved Nona bc logic would stop him from even touching her let alone hugging her! Then to be blamed while grieving. Long distance is hard to remain faithful yet 1 cop said SHE WAS TOO PRETTY TO BE WITH HIM SO HE KILLED HER BC SHE WANTED TO MOVE ON. To the press. Dont quote me but same meaning that he wasnt good enough so another hurt rt there!
#1 no way. The boyfriend is 100% Innocent. He literally looks scared. He didn’t ask for a lawyer and he looks genuinely shocked. How unfair of them to hold him under hours of questioning just after he finds his girlfriend dead.
He's a very kind guy, too. The whole thing left him with serious PTSD. They wanted it to be him so bad, they ignored the evidence. We all know Dunn did it. He's gotten drunk and told multiple people he did it. It's insane that he wasn't convicted.
The case of The Petit family happened in my state very close to where I live. I can't even explain how horrifying and heartbreaking that was for the family and the community. What those monsters did to that family was beyond depraved and we were all left terrorized. I remember my daughter, who was a preteen at the time, was afraid to go to sleep for about the next year. And poor Dr. Petit has to live with this.
I thought the same like "YOu alive?" or "Hey you dead?" are just common things you might send a friend when they're usually good about getting back to you (From Cali)
Back in 2016 both my friend and I were going through devastating break ups with our respective significant others. Over six weeks or so we spoke everyday. One day I texted him several times and he didn't respond. I sent a message saying, "I hope you're not sitting on the couch dead." I received a call from his niece the next day. He was found dead in the bathroom. 😫
I knew Kevin for years and wondered what happened to him all of the sudden. “He was a huge online gamer.” Our friends told me what had happened I’m in PA and he was in Arkansas, I knew for a damn fact he would’ve never done something like that. He was one of the nicest most stand up people you’d ever meet. They need to charge Dunn for the murder he committed! Police failed miserably and had blinders as they do a lot when they WANT it to be someone that didn’t do the crime.
Never say "I know he/she would never do that" Because you NEVER know a person a 100%, sadly, you can't put your hands in fire for anyone. I know he didn't do it, but just saying lol
Wtf were the police doing over there???!!! I feel sorry for Kevin; the person he loved was murdered, turned out she was cheating on him, they tarnished his reputation, charged for her murder even went to court, imagine the trauma, I hope he sued them and live a happy and peaceful life now.
They were broken up when this happened. He was in town visiting family and went to check on her when she didn't answer his text. Russellville police are notoriously lazy.
It's insanity. They need to actually find out who committed the crime by getting all the facts straight, not ask a bunch of people if they think a suspect did it or not.. What the fuck.. I just cannot get behind this.
Sad when forensics doesn’t get all of the dna they need for whatever reason but they may never solve that case now. Tunnel vision by detectives puts a lot of innocent people behind jail.
The story about the man who followed the lady and her daughter home from the store reminds me of a sermon I regularly preach and that is, DON'T EVER ALLOW ANYONE TO FOLLOW YOU HOME. An incident happened here in Nashville about 45 years ago where a man and woman were involved in some sort of road rage altercation. The man followed the woman all the way home and as she stepped out of her car, he shot her. She was not killed but I believe she was permanently partially paralyzed. Since that time when I get close to home, I start looking behind me to see what cars might be following me. If I make two or three turns and the car behind me makes those same turns, I do not go home. I keep driving until that car is no longer following me. PLEASE, keep an eye on cars behind you and do not allow any car to follow you home. In this story it literally could have saved three lives.
Ugh, I hate that people have to worry about this, but it's sound advice. When I was 17 and still new to driving, I waited too long to turn and pissed off the driver behind me. They followed me for 15 minutes and took every turn I did-- even when I went down winding dirt roads, pulled into other people's driveways, and looped back around. It scared the absolute shit out of me. I was stupid and pulled over to get out and confront the person (turns out it was my ex-boyfriend, but that still doesn't make it okay). Never, NEVER go home if someone is following you.
@@RedfernInkanina If you were 17 I think we could say you were not stupid but rather you were young. I'm glad you made it through that scary incident okay.
@@RedfernInkanina Also, never EVER get out of your car to confront the person. Instead, I would drive my car into the parking lot of the nearest police station, 😳 and scare the living 💩 out of them for a change , and possibly get out there, especially, if I saw a policeman in the parking lot. Guaranteed...... THAT WOULD PUT A STOP TO THEIR B.S. Just a little friendly future advice. 🤗
Story three hit home. I was at work the day that happened and when I hear about it I felt for the family. I didn’t know them but I felt bad. People can be monsters.
For the petit murders the police didn’t arrive and the house was already up in flames. They sat there for over 2 hours and were too scared to enter the home. If they had entered the home when they got there, all 3 of those lives would’ve been saved. They also pushed the lies to the media that William petit was involved. I grew up in ct and thought the father orchestrated it because of the media depiction of him being involved, it was on the news constantly. Shame on the Cheshire police for the way they acted during the crime and the many months after.
Police's actions were just like in that school shooting incident, what's the name, it was last year, in Texas: Arrendondo was their police Chief, and same as the Chief here, he wanted SWAT and god knows how many other agencies there first, he forbid anyone from doing anything, and they laid siege to the school for over an hour with the shooter still killing in a classroom. I'd say, the police Chief was the culprit here, too: no one would dare to go ahead and do anything without his permission.
@@raphaellavictoria01yea was abt to comment abt ulvade but u beat me to it lmao, it’s fucking despicable when the people who have over 3k worth of gear are scared of a crazy guy w a gun. they should’ve gotten their ass’ in that school n done something. hell even let the parents run in there na ave their kids but to keep ppl out and not even go in yourself is pure unfiltered pathetic human existence
@@ananasbanana Chengis khan and gang killed most human in recorded history. If "you alive" text considerd as a red flag for a potential murderer then I killed almost a million people because I sent it to everyone. There for I "sarcastically" said I am chengis khan.
Third story is very sad. I truly think the police could’ve saved the girls in time if they did act quickly. They also could’ve sent two sets of police to her home and to the bank. Such a sad loss for those beautiful women. 😔
I feel so sad hearing about the Petit family murders. Such a trivial thing like going to a grocery store can trigger this terrible event. What would have happened if they haven't gone to the grocery store this day? Would they have lived a happy and normal life? What about the murderers? Would they have targeted another family? Is that family alive now thanks to the fact that one of the murderers took an interest in Michaela and Jennifer?
I think he stalked them bc he already knew of them having money. Regardless, to me, this case highlights something else: the need to have ACTUALLY secured entrances to one's home. Had there been a serious lock on the cellar, had there been bars in their windows, etc: if they can't enter, they will go away. Do you have a solid door, a lock with a key that is not easily duplicated, what about your windows, your basement? It's terrifying.
@@raphaellavictoria01 There is some truth to this. In my country it is standard practice to have window grills, gates, multiple door locks, etc. Even posh gated communities where celebrities live have huge gates in their homes here. It was surprising for me to learn that this is not common in america.
Saying that the pervert in the #3 story had become obsessed with Michaela and brutally attacked her tells you what kind of attack it was 😞 Breaks my heart that a sweet 11 year old had to endure that in the final moments of her short life.
The Petit case pull my heart strings to no end. He tried so hard to get help sadly it was too late. The bank failed her to a fault the cops even dropped the ball. Two parolees looking to do what they do best commit crimes and kill as naturally as they breathe air! Makes me sick!
apparently, someone purchased the home where the murder of the final story in this vid took place. the person turned this home into a haunted house and literally recreated the crime scene in the kitchen with fake body parts in the oven, in pots and pans, and in the fridge, just like addy’s body was. like, how absolutely fucked up are you to do that?
I thought there’s a law that was created after a series killer got caught that banns earns on any crime. am I missing something? and what sick minded would visit that place even if he created it?
Sadly, just look at the high number of both tv shows & RUclips channels that do similar acts. Making money off of other's painful & miserable horrors and calling it entertainment. I'm not sure what's worse, those profiting or those giving the profits.
the one with domestic violence makes me mad (Gail Katz); my mom would contact the police regularly about my father hurting her, and they either blamed it on her or ignored it and it’s disgusting. i hope that poor girl rests well, the world failed her.
Also I can't get over how the police manage to bungle every single case on this channel because they immediately blame the people who are in actual danger/trying to help
Re: case #3 and 2: Talk about POLICE INCOMPETENCE but even more so the *firefighters’ incompetence!!!* Can you imagine they stubbornly wouldn’t drive around on sidewalks and grass lawns in their trucks because they were waiting for the *road to clear* for half an hour while police was tinkering with the two psycho criminals?! WHY?!?!?! 😵😳🤯🤭🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️ All the while the poor three women/girls were *burning alive* to death in the house!!! I would contend they’re even *more incompetent* and absolutely psychopathically indifferent, cynical and callous, than the police! What’s wrong with these “emergency” services in that state?! Seems like they’ve done it all on purpose, because they WANTED for that family to suffer and die. I am surprised the father did not SUE the PD and the FD for *NEGLIGENCE and incompetence!* He should have.
The Cheshire home invasion really rocked CT all around. I remember hearing about that and being terrified that someone could follow me home and do the same. Really wish we had better police in all aspects
The first case is a classic example of lazy, inept policing. When they get a scenario in their heads, they skew the evidence to fit instead of following where it goes.
I'm not one of those super picky people who can't listen to a video on YT unless someone's voice is "just right" - that's picky and weird to me, as I'm interested in the content. However, I think the male narrator for all the EWU channels has one of the best voices for the genre that I have ever had the pleasure of hearing, as well as terrific content. Great channel!!
Took me two weeks to make it through the entire 30 minutes. Such an artificial voice, that adjusting the playback speed didn’t have any effect on the tone.
My mom has texted me "You alive?" for my whole life, especially if I hadn't called or texted in a while or when I was supposed to check in with her and I hadn't. So to me it's not that shocking or suspicious.
My wife and I have lived in Russellville all our lives. The RPD definitely screwed Nonas homicide up. I don't think she'll ever have justice. The FBI or state police should have been brought in.
Right after the story about the Petit's... when you said "I know, I know. It's hard to come back from that one." I felt that. 100%. My eyes were starting to well up hearing about the memorial & the dedication at Dartmouth... & I just felt like you were talkin to me. ;) You both are amazing narrators. Seriously. But your voice is my fav. Have you done any other narrating?
"I'm smart, I'm loving. My love will cure." Welp, she sure did contradict that first statement. Honestly people stop thinking your love will save a toxic person. It's not worth it to stay in an abusive relationship. Stop ignoring all the red flags just cuz you see some shred of human decency in them from time to time and just run!
apparently she had a loving family so she did have a place to go, sad she didn´t do that. Iknow people can feel heavily trapped with their abuser even if they´re not. But seriously..if someone hurts a pet (or person) on purpose LEAVE the F immedietly.
"You alive?" is extremely common. Practically everyone I've ever texted has used that at some point, usually when you don't hear back within a reasonable amount of time.
CT native here, it definitely hit the entire state hard. Another case where the daughter lived, my mom had the pleasure of being there the night it went down. And was able to stay with the girl and comfort her, very surreal moment. Thank you for bringing awareness.
I lived near the Pettis for a short internship & I was about 21… it was so devastatingly real that I couldn’t eat for a while. Please do a story on my fellow Columbia U student that was horrifically tortured by a CONVICT who was just released for doing almost the same thing. 2007/2008 Robert Williams
Police often don't follow the evidence to find out who committed the crime, but decide who committed the crime and "find" or actually create evidence against that person, of course ignoring or even concealing all evidence that leads in other directions.
I just can't wrap around the family that perished in the fire. Police had her address because that was on file with the bank. It's ridiculous beyond all measure, to the point of disgust. I hope to dear God, that police chief was fired, was held in court for mismanaging the whole event, by doing criminal charges. 😡
Unfortunately not, the fact that the went directly to the bank and didnt send a car to her house too is mind boggling. The town has plenty of officers and they don’t have much to do there.
For the fourth story, how is it that no one has questioned the fact that Margaret Sanchez and her boyfriend committed a murder in a similar manner that Addie was killed?
That's what I've been thinking as well! I suspect that they both killed the girl, dismembered her body, made it seem like the guy killed her, killed the guy, and made it look like suicide due to guilt/no remorse for killing the girl. I am suprised this theory isn't mentioned in the video or in any of the comments.
@@gaurikakhosla5011 it isn’t mentioned because security caught the suicide moment on video, so it was no doubt a suicide. Considering that, the likeliness of him committing suicide with a forged letter in his possession without being aware is extremely low.
A lot of people have clowned this woman for not immediately leaving her toxic relationship. “My love will cure”, this is such a clear scenario of a man taking advantage of a woman and manipulating her. By saying she was stupid for not getting out of there immediately, you fail to see how someone like that could’ve easily gaslit and manipulated this poor woman. People never think about those kinds of things, it’s always “Well i’d never stay with a guy like that”, please remember that being manipulated, gaslit, and groomed ( even as an adult. ) are all very real things that happen to people, and it can completely warp your world view.
I live close to Cheshire CT and when the Petit family murders happened I was only 11 but I remember the huge impact it had on the state. People still talk about it today. Such a horrible crime! I feel so bad for Will!
I lived a few minutes away from the Petit family and remember when that happened. Such a tragedy that could’ve had a different outcome…Cheshire police have blood on their hands. They arrived at their house before it was lit on fire and waited outside
I’ve watched another clip on this case and the bank personnel apparently did ring the police and they went to the house and sat outside for 30 mins before entering. During these 30 minutes was the time the torture began and the daughters and mum were killed. They had time to go in but didn’t xx
I text "you alive?" to my oldest son all the time. He's married and living in the next town over. I usually talk to him every few days, and if he doesn't reply to my messages, I'll text back, "you alive?" .... Hmm... Maybe I'll rethink it next time. 🥺
Thanks for including the New Orleans story, not many people include out stories (even though we have one of the highest murder rates) I was born, raised, and still live here. I was 17 and only 2 weeks into my senior year when Hurricane Katrina hit. Even though I went to 3 different high schools that year, I was able to graduate from my actual school at the New Orleans Arena (next to the Superdome).
It is an honor to be among some of the first people to view this production! Thank you for all your hard work EWU; I'm happy to have been part of the crew since the early days 🥰 And what a crazy collection of stories, especially ones I'm not super familiar with. Raven, you weren't lying when you said it'll be a rollercoaster of emotions exceeding beyond those illicited from soap operas lol!
@@katalinas9264 Yes, I'm honored to be able to watch all the quality work EWU puts out. That's called complimenting someone; a social norm you're obviously unfamiliar with. I'm sorry no one loves you- I'd shit on people's enthusiasm too!
i live the town over from cheshire & was 16 when this happened.. the cops seriously fxcked this whole thing up. so, so bad. i wish they didn’t take away the death penalty for those two “men” tbh. may those beautiful young women rest peacefully.💛
Me and my siblings always text 'are you alive?' when we haven't heard from each other. It's literally a common thing people jokingly ask idk why people read so much into that as him being sus 🙄
Thats what I said & love cannot cure that evil. A defenseless kitten. Obviously he was a narc & hopefully someone will learn from this. Narcs manipulate but facts r facts. I wonder if Id be in jail hurting him defending kitty?💜🐾💜🙏
@@aishadavina4426 My cat is missing & I looked in every bkyd & put up rewards. She is my Baby my emotional support & PTSD cat. Someone couldve of killed her? So many of my neighbors wouldnt chk their bkyards so I pretty much did & Im disabled & fell & hurt myself. I got her from metheads who abandoned & abused her so she was afraid of ppl. She thought she was a Princess & deserved the only best & would only eat fish. A palate that I couldnt afford so she'd eat better than me bc I LOVE HER SO MUCH. My hand tremors r back & when I wake from a nightmare she is not here to let mw know Im safe & loved. Her dad bolted going to the Vet so 2 cats in 2 mths. Never thought someone couldve killed her but not her dad, he can defend himself. She was my everything & Im sorry u mustve been in major pain to kill & no counselor or anyone to talk to? China puts live dogs on the barb & beats them while alive to tenderize. 60 MINS Aussie. U cannot unsee or unhear dogs plus other creatures in Wet Markets. They promised after Mers & Sars they were shut down so Aussies were going to sue China with these clips. Aussies have lithium so China needs them. They eat cats, rats, bats etc but clips I saw were dogs howling. Another virus will develop bc ppl r hungry in climate chg. Thought mad cow disease was bad & HIV guess zombie virus will be next. Id pray for God's forgiveness since he created creatures which Im so happy he did. Lassie for 1 or Mr Ed etc wtx
I was actually in jail in the same holding cell as Margaret Sanchez when that happened. I also was friends with Jaren Lockhart as well. Imagine the terror sitting across the murderer of my friend, but not having any clue of it until being released the next day..
County jails are crazy, they'll place people who forgot to pay their tickets next to psycho murderers. Here in Colorado a boy stabbed his family to death and they had the guy in general pop, he was actually in my bay. I'll look up the case if anyone is interested
This likely had little to do with Zack's experiences in the military. He was obviously a born psychopath to be capable of the things he did. He had been burning himself with cigarettes for years prior to his service. Just because someone is a veteran and they do something horrible...that doesn't automatically mean that horrible thing was caused by their experiences during war. I spent 20 years in the Army as a combat medic and deployed multiple times to Iraq and Afghanistan. I lost many brothers and sisters over there and saw some stuff that haunts me to this day. I have had numerous friends become addicts and/or commit suicide. War will mess you up. But don't think for a second that Zack was the way he was because of his time in service. That's like giving him a get out of jail free card. He was already a very badly broken human being wayyyy before his Army days. A normal person does not do the things he did no matter how many effed up things they've seen and experienced. Murder? Sure. It happens all the time. But what he did to Addy was absolutely barbaric.
@@albtckl Zack was not born psychotic. Watch Jon Chrymes Zack & Addy story. No one is saying all Zack's problems are because he was in the Army. But it's a huge part of why he broke. He needed help. The VA fkg failed, again. you can think whatever you want. My husband is a 3x Iraq deployed combat veteran, US Army. He has PTSD. It took 7 years to get his rating and help. The VA failed. I'm not saying you're messed up. But the Army breaks people's psyche, yet have no problem taking their own sweet time to try to fix it.
Am I the only one that thinks he was plied with alcohol and pushed off of the roof? They were friends with a couple that did the exact same thing to another girl. Thats an extremely unlikely coincidence
These videos are so well-done. Narration is excellent. The details to the cases are perfect. All in all you are a real addiction to true crime enthusiasts.
So they just ignored a suspect who lives in her complex bc of he said he was at a store but if they simply looked at the date they could tell he was lying? I’m confused are they detectives or
Tragic all of these cases. The neighbor whose alibi is an easily discovered lie could've prevented her boyfriend from all that. f'd up cop delays in the 2nd case. . Sadly you always have to be aware of people following you.Gail that poor soul never should've believed her love will change an egotistical violent man. Just glad the killers were found and some form of justice was served
So the police raced to the bank instead of the house, based on their belief of her being complicit. I’m losing faith in the police more and more every day.
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Sheesh that's brutal. Not only did he find his girlfriend's brutally murdered body, he also found out she was sleeping with other men behind his back. Then to make things worse he gets accused and trialled for her murder simply cause it made sense that he did it. I hope he's doing okay wherever he is cause damn, once again, That's brutal
The petit family case was so horrible- he used to be my grandmothers doctor! We attend a charity motorcycle ride for them once a year- not sure if it’s still going on since Covid but it was an awesome alliance
This is like the 3rd story I've heard where a group kidnaps a family, sends a person to a bank to extract money and the stupid bank manager takes all the wrongs steps and it results in one or more deaths!
The bank manager certainly isnt at fault in this case. They called 911 despite the mom telling the teller not to (timestamp: 14:19). She did all she could at that moment. From then on it was the LOCAL POLICE who took the wrong steps. 14:34 - Instead of going straight to the family's home; they went to the bank instead 15:18 - firetrucks had to WAIT until the men got apprehended BEFORE putting out the fire??????? (Isn't it the job for firemen to rescue victims....in a fire?) 2 lives couldve been saved from smoke inhalation if the fire dept was called in right away 16:25 - waiting 33 MINUTES before going to the family's home 16:31 - police chief telling units to "STAY AWAY" from the area until HE arrives (ridiculous if u ask me) 16:37 - SWAT team FORGETTING???? their bullet proof vests(????) (honestly i could not wrap my head around this one) Idk what type of stories uve heard abt bank tellers not making the wrong moves; but it aint this video my guy.
That second story started on my 19th bday.. July 22nd, 2007.. I hate hearing of families going through horrible things while I'm celebrating... Makes my stomach turn everytime! I can't even begin to express my feelings of how they failed this family as well as the young couple in the first story.... They wouldn't even check the fire until they apprehended the men?? Some protocols needs to either be changed or some people needs to make executive decisions in mid tragedy! I would lose my job for someone's life!!!
Struggling to think of another case where a ginger man was erroneously incriminated for another ginger man's crime and it had nothing to do with their hair color
18:57 If there's anything to take away from this tragedy, it's that this is never true. Your love cannot fix violent people. Get out of abusive relationships. There is nothing but suffering in the future of these people.
"You alive?" Is my go to text when someone isn't answering me. Maybe I should hang that so I don't become a suspect at some point
I do that too, with my oldest son, who is living with his wife a town over. He's 29. Maybe I'll rethink that text... 😑
Same!
Haha I say that too!!! 🤣🤣
My friends and I say that all the time lol
@@GenXfrom75 LOL I just text my adult son "you alive" right at the start of this video 😂🤦
Some of these "twists and turns" feel more like "police need to do better"
Hmmm nugget of truth there Sis
Indeed.
No doubt. Especially in the case of the Petit family. I can’t tell you how angry that story made me. “Duh, turn around Roscoe. Fergot muh vest”! Gross negligence and incompetence should be a more serious offense when lives are at stake, you have the power to basically kidnap people at gun point, and there exists such a thing as “qualified immunity “.
I guess we should defund them right?
@@torachan23 no. Train them better and actually hold them accountable. I actually know a lot of really good officers who are good people and love serving others. There are bad apples everywhere, though. Good cops would be the first to say that.
In Nona's case: how tf can forensics fail to collect ALL the evidence. 🤦♀️ I can't stand it when someone fails to do their frickin job properly, especially when lives are at stake. 🤬
Or hangs all on a fingerprint on a lightbulb that a BOYFRIEND might have changed quite awhile back, totally forgetting about it! Unbelievable!
I know the CSI actors would’ve don’t a better job.. absolutely disgraceful.
It’s AK…
I think they didn't do a thorough job because they 1000% believed the case was solved . Any fingerprint involving the bf , after a 5 year relationship can too easily be speculated . Luckily he's innocent because it was fumbled from the beginning 😩
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That footage in the supermarket REALLY Freaked me out. I was stalked for a week by a man I delivered a pizza to an interacted with for barely 30 seconds. Scariest part of it is I NEVER would have known I was being stalked. It was my fellow employees who told me about some guy who kept calling the store and ordering pizza asking for me specifically to deliver it. Then he would ask whoever answered the store phone , (usually a 15 or 16 year old girl) for my number and address claiming he was an old highschool friend who had just moved back to Philly and wanted to surprise me with his return. when none of that worked because everyone in the store was told he spent the final two days of the week sitting in the bar across the street from my Shop. sitting right by the back door which was always open, watching me work and trying his high school friend story on anyone he watched either talk to me or just come from the store to the bar. even when he'd try his story on someone who knew what was happening and that person called him a liar he'd just keep it up.
A good friend of mine Was the bartender there FRI Night and he said I'm gonna end it.
he told five other guys we knew to come hang that night. when they were all there and knew what was up, my friend gave the stalker a shot on the house and did one himself. Then he said if you don't stop this shit and disappear look down the bar and tell me what you think will happen.
he looked down and all the guys were looking him right in the eyes.
lol that was it far as I know.
like I said .
interacted with this man for 30 seconds while he paid his bill.
if not for all the employees telling me what he was doing I never would have had a clue until he already had my address and number
Wow, that's scary! Glad you're safe 💕
@@allya4749 Thanks. It happened when I was still in my 20s awhile back but I'll always remember it.
It's a horrible thing to go through
@@luvmenow33 I imagine so. I just shudder to think what might have happened if your friends/acquaintances and coworkers hadn't have stepped in.
Oh! Glad you got rid of that weirdo! Bless you dear.❤️
@@luvmenow33 You had some good friends. But never let that psycho know anything about you. Some don't ever give up.
Nona murderer lived almost right next to her, was know to be obsessed with her and has a history of violence. How did the police not get him? He was right there!
Because they weren't looking for real evidence left by who actually killed her. They were trying trying to look for evidence that will make the boyfriend look guilty. They had made up their mind that he was the killer and were trying to fit evidence in that scenario. They wanted to pin the muder on him instead of actually doing their job, investigate and catch the real killer. They probably forgot that "everyone is a suspect until the real culprit is caught" or "everyone is innocent until proven guilty." The were trying to prove Kevin guilty instead of finding the real culprit.
Police are inept, that's saying it lightly.
It was easier for these policemen to plant evidence, thereby tarnishing all policemen, who sometimes devote their whole lives to finding the killer.
Story 3 is infuriating! I can't beleive police didn't go straight to the woman's address to save her and her family 😡. If she was committing bank fraud they could have dealt with it later.
So true, if money is threatened then they’re straight on the scene. When it’s human life at stake, “oooh it could take a little while before we reach you”.
These police have there blood on their hands. Can’t believe the incompetence of these forces. You’re so right.
@@torachan23 how do you know if she's a thot
@@Ladyjojo695 that's the world we live inn. It is so wrong. Profit always ahead of humanity
They can't collect the money from the bank fraud if she's dead. What were they thinking??
I actually live in Russellville, knew Nona, and live a 1/4 mile from the apt she was murdered in. The police here are incompetent, to put it mildly. I know most people say that about their small town police, but I REALLY mean it. They completely fumbled her case on so many levels. Dunn did it. He's admitted to "friends" that he did it. It's pretty well common knowledge around here.
Is Kevin still shunned? Or has his name been cleared?
She didn't deserve what happened to her. She was the victim, no one had the right to take her life. Unless the victim posed a danger to others, the "he/she was not innocent" is very cruel and insensitive.
@@toufusoup There are still some that suspect him, but for the most part, the court of public opinion opinion cleared him.
@@toufusoup I NEVER said she deserved what happened to her. I wouldn't say that about my worst enemy.
But, when her and her besties bully someone so bad they attempt to unalive themselves? Not ok.
@@Muirmaiden Algorithms flag key words. The proper word for it is a key word. I'm sorry, I assumed most people that use the internet knew how the algorithms work.
How does a SWAT team forget their bullet proof vests, when that’s one of the things that they are KNOWN for???🤨
Exactly. And "team" being the magic word. ALL of them forgot??? What a Mayberry PD. On second thought: even Barney Fife always remembers to put his one bullet in his gun.🤗
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I'd really to know how that one happened by accident. And while I can't explain or provide any evidence it seems like an on purpose to me. SWAT teams a lot of them are made up of former military. Marines soldiers some of which served in advance infantry or even special forces. They would absolutely unequivocally never forget something so vital.
They would have gone in without them cowards!
@@voiceofreason1208 I’m with you. Seems really fishy too, that PD assumed the wife was involved in a bank scheme…and why did the police chief stall on getting to the house?? They could have arrived at the home WELL before Jennifer made it back there with the 2nd killer, if they took anything about the bank teller’s findings serious.
It's absolutely shameful how many of these cases are marred by the absolute incompetence of the police, especially the hostage situation where the idiot chief told officers to stay away until he got there & then SWAT had to turn around & go back because they forgot their vests? What sort of useless idiot is running a SWAT team that can't remember basic equipment when they get called out? This poor man lost his entire family because of the incompetent idiocy of these clowns in uniform & unfortunately he probably won't be the last.
Yeah, not letting those two fu*king monsters that killed them, get off that easy.
Story 3 was a lot worse than many people know, not only were the daughters and the mother being s***ually abused by one of them. That was all going on, while the police were outside trying to decide weather or not they were going to escape from a certain door and weather they were a threat or not. All of that decision making, took the worse part of half an hour and they did not consider the fact that there was a family inside that home that had just experienced the worse thing possible anyone could ever face in their lives. I do hope they all R.I.P
Right?! This "summary" is a mockery. To this day, that story is the WORSE I have ever heard. I remember being absolutely gutted and distraught after hearing the full tale. For anyone interested, look further into it. The backstory of the perpetrators and the horrific atrocities that family endured while the police grossly failed them is something you will never forget. As soon as I seen their faces, I said burn in hell. I'll never forget the journal entries by Josh and Steven's suicide letter. Josh was a monster, at least Steven had sense of remorse from the shame and humility for what a disgusting and weak coward he was to be sucked into that pedophiles "robbery."
@@aleeshaj2084 Yes you are right, I see the full documentary and the things you find out about the two disgusting men, if you can call them men it's horrible. Those women and children did not need to suffer through any of their disgusting actions......then to find out their backgrounds was just horrifying. The police made a major f**k up, were careless and should be punished themselves for not taking action when they needed to.
I think police need better pay *after* getting far more training. It also seems that many cops are promoted in the wrong way - because they are popular, not skilled or smart.
There also needs to be an easier way to sue them or prosecute them for not doing their job. In many areas, they show up when called, ask a few questions, write out a report, yet do no research and otherwise blow it off.
In at least one state, a citizen cannot get the state B.I. to investigate - only the sheriff is allowed to do that.
@@genkiferal7178 my hometown is Cheshire the town has hardly any crime-speeding, a little theft, and dui’s. I say this as a pro cop person: the cheshire cops royally screwed up. Instead of going to the Petit’s house they went to the bank. They prevented poor Dr Petit from running back in the house to save his daughters and wife. They had plenty of time to breech the house and save the wife from being raped by Steven and the youngest daughter being raped by that pedophile Josh. The poor eldest died of smoke inhalation trying to get out.
I live about 20 mins from Cheshire and this story gutted our entire state. What that family went thru was absolutely horrific and the cops failed them horribly. If anyone deserves to die for their crimes it was those 2. Connie and Alisha's comments above pretty much said all that needed to be said. RIP Petit girls, you all deserved better 🙏🏼💗
This one could have almost been titled ‘Devastating Police Fuck Ups’-not cross checking the time on a receipt (literally the only thing that would make it an alibi), opting to protect a bank from possibly being swindled over helping a possibly kidnapped family (only to finally show up with an entire SWAT team who somehow all left their bulletproof vests back at whatever camouflage colored Mickey Mouse Club House they operate out of), and doing nothing when a woman reports her attempted murder, so she ends up (wait for it) MURDERED.
Exactly what I was thinking like really? They didn’t go straight to the house?
The police were literally created to protect the rich and they're interests and they're very well aware that their budgets will be slashed if they don't say, protect a bank over one random family
I agree, that absolutely should have been the title. It boggles my mind how some of these police operations work.
seeeeeeeeeeeeeee this what we Black people been trying to tell ya'll. This is YA'LL police force. This type of NON work is something we know ALL too well!!! Idk you Liz but you articulated this SOOOOOOOOOOOO well.
It must be a Liz thing because those were almost verbatim my thoughts 😂
The Petit Family is one of those stories you don't forget. It's gut wrenching & gives you pause on how random running into danger can be, by simply going to the grocery store.
Life in prison instead of death..what a joke
I actually cried to that case because the baby sister was brutally raped before she was murder and then they set the house and everyone on fire
There is a heartbreaking documentary about the case. It goes to show that you can have all the privileges America can bestow and still be touched by evil.
you already forgot about it tho x)
He became a politician after? They didn't kill him? He survived? They just left him alone didn't kill him? He shortly remarried after? The police and swat actively made decisions that ruined the case? No one suspicious? At all? He remarried in 2012 his family was R and M in 2007 assuming the couple started dating years before that's essentially no time..... again.... they brutally murdered the woman but he somehow got away..... it's shocking no one is saying anything. I also found out his family has political connections. He at the time had the influence to control police and swat into those horrible calls and to not investigate this obvious clue....... silent......
Petit case: The police thought the mom was involved in some bank scheme? What scheme? She was withdrawing her own money wasn't she?
The scheme is generally to withdraw your own funds and not properly document some part of the process, or in some other way sabotage the process, in order to blame the bank and have the funds dispersed a second time. It's not as common anymore in the digital age, and it absolutely shouldn't have been an excuse used by the police to not properly follow up. Basically, if it was a scheme, bank fraud takes time to investigate and prove, so that's really not an excuse to wait. On the other hand, if they are legitimately being held under duress, time is of the essence. This was inexcusable sloppy policing, plain and simple.
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The police were completely incompetent and stupid! They had plenty of time to stop this
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That's what I was thinking too
I’ve been stalked before and learned a habit that has probably kept me out of being stalked again. When I get out of the store I don’t drive straight home, I drive around and take a few extra turns just to make sure nobody is following me. People can call me paranoid but the best way to see if someone is following you is to take four consecutive left turns, if the car or person is still there, they’re likely stalking you.
I live in Russellville. My sister played softball with her boyfriend in High School. They were broken up when this happened. The murder weapon was laying across her body. He knelt next to the body and got her blood on his clothes. He lifted a lamp off of her body so he could check for a pulse. And FYI, Russellville Police are notoriously lazy! They took him to trial over is 3 times and all 3 times there was a mistrial. They bankrupted this poor kid's family with legal fees. They sued the city a few years back to recover the legal fees. It's the 3rd time the actions of Russellville police have caused the city to be sued. That supposed kidnapping only got him 5 years in prison, not 15. A lot of us think that was a setup. The incident was supposed to have happened in the parking lot of the church that ""literally"" runs this town.
He truly loved Nona bc logic would stop him from even touching her let alone hugging her! Then to be blamed while grieving. Long distance is hard to remain faithful yet 1 cop said SHE WAS TOO PRETTY TO BE WITH HIM SO HE KILLED HER BC SHE WANTED TO MOVE ON. To the press. Dont quote me but same meaning that he wasnt good enough so another hurt rt there!
#1 no way. The boyfriend is 100% Innocent. He literally looks scared. He didn’t ask for a lawyer and he looks genuinely shocked. How unfair of them to hold him under hours of questioning just after he finds his girlfriend dead.
He's a very kind guy, too. The whole thing left him with serious PTSD. They wanted it to be him so bad, they ignored the evidence. We all know Dunn did it. He's gotten drunk and told multiple people he did it. It's insane that he wasn't convicted.
Asking for a lawyer isn’t implicating guilt. It just means you’re smart enough to protect yourself.
@@halgaucher6730 not saying it is. I’m just pointing out another thing I observed about his situation.
You think he is innocent, but that is just an opinion. That doesn't mean he is innocent.
@@Ariadne76-k3d innocent til proven guilty.
The case of The Petit family happened in my state very close to where I live. I can't even explain how horrifying and heartbreaking that was for the family and the community. What those monsters did to that family was beyond depraved and we were all left terrorized. I remember my daughter, who was a preteen at the time, was afraid to go to sleep for about the next year. And poor Dr. Petit has to live with this.
This case haunts me.I think this story is the worst I have ever heard.
@@alizajohnny6422 Yes, just unbelievably horrible. And they barely scratched the surface here of what went on. Haunting.
He probably set the whole thing up. Just conveniently sleeping outside
@@mickeyxoxo5363 What case are you talking about? Dr Petit's face was smashed in and he crawled out through the basement doors.
@@mickeyxoxo5363 Then who beat him up beyond recognition? Why didn't the perps point the finger at him?
Being from Missouri I can verify that “You alive?” is a very common phrase used when not hearing from someone in a while.
Even in ND it's very very common
I thought the same like "YOu alive?" or "Hey you dead?" are just common things you might send a friend when they're usually good about getting back to you (From Cali)
it’s a thing everywhere i’m convinced
Everyone who has ever texted ppl has used the “u alive” text at some point
Its a thing everywhere, here in Scotland UK too 🏴
Back in 2016 both my friend and I were going through devastating break ups with our respective significant others. Over six weeks or so we spoke everyday. One day I texted him several times and he didn't respond. I sent a message saying, "I hope you're not sitting on the couch dead."
I received a call from his niece the next day. He was found dead in the bathroom.
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I knew Kevin for years and wondered what happened to him all of the sudden. “He was a huge online gamer.” Our friends told me what had happened I’m in PA and he was in Arkansas, I knew for a damn fact he would’ve never done something like that. He was one of the nicest most stand up people you’d ever meet. They need to charge Dunn for the murder he committed! Police failed miserably and had blinders as they do a lot when they WANT it to be someone that didn’t do the crime.
I have always believe in letting love be thy light intent peace be thy passion
Never say "I know he/she would never do that"
Because you NEVER know a person a 100%, sadly, you can't put your hands in fire for anyone.
I know he didn't do it, but just saying lol
Wtf were the police doing over there???!!! I feel sorry for Kevin; the person he loved was murdered, turned out she was cheating on him, they tarnished his reputation, charged for her murder even went to court, imagine the trauma, I hope he sued them and live a happy and peaceful life now.
I never heard that she was cheating on him, only that the Gary guy was obsessed with her.
@@msmichelle746 well thats what the video says
They were broken up when this happened. He was in town visiting family and went to check on her when she didn't answer his text. Russellville police are notoriously lazy.
@@relaxingwhitenoisenatureso1111 live in Russellville, can confirm.
@Insta Live 24/7 cheating is bad but no one deserves tp be MURDERED for it. Jesus christ dude
The first story is scary because if the jury found that kid guilty law enforcement would have never looked any further
It's insanity. They need to actually find out who committed the crime by getting all the facts straight, not ask a bunch of people if they think a suspect did it or not.. What the fuck.. I just cannot get behind this.
@@explodingdog it’s a joke it’s gotta be
Sad when forensics doesn’t get all of the dna they need for whatever reason but they may never solve that case now. Tunnel vision by detectives puts a lot of innocent people behind jail.
@@moselleconger4156 it really is scary.
@@moselleconger4156 we did an entire unit on exoneree’s, breaks my heart how many innocents get locked up while the monster roams free
The story about the man who followed the lady and her daughter home from the store reminds me of a sermon I regularly preach and that is, DON'T EVER ALLOW ANYONE TO FOLLOW YOU HOME. An incident happened here in Nashville about 45 years ago where a man and woman were involved in some sort of road rage altercation. The man followed the woman all the way home and as she stepped out of her car, he shot her. She was not killed but I believe she was permanently partially paralyzed. Since that time when I get close to home, I start looking behind me to see what cars might be following me. If I make two or three turns and the car behind me makes those same turns, I do not go home. I keep driving until that car is no longer following me. PLEASE, keep an eye on cars behind you and do not allow any car to follow you home. In this story it literally could have saved three lives.
I will defenitely keep that in mind thanks for sharing this Tip have a great day.
You make a good point
Ugh, I hate that people have to worry about this, but it's sound advice. When I was 17 and still new to driving, I waited too long to turn and pissed off the driver behind me. They followed me for 15 minutes and took every turn I did-- even when I went down winding dirt roads, pulled into other people's driveways, and looped back around. It scared the absolute shit out of me. I was stupid and pulled over to get out and confront the person (turns out it was my ex-boyfriend, but that still doesn't make it okay). Never, NEVER go home if someone is following you.
@@RedfernInkanina If you were 17 I think we could say you were not stupid but rather you were young. I'm glad you made it through that scary incident okay.
@@RedfernInkanina Also, never EVER get out of your car to confront the person. Instead, I would drive my car into the parking lot of the nearest police station, 😳 and scare the living 💩 out of them for a change , and possibly get out there, especially, if I saw a policeman in the parking lot. Guaranteed...... THAT WOULD PUT A STOP TO THEIR B.S. Just a little friendly future advice. 🤗
Story three hit home. I was at work the day that happened and when I hear about it I felt for the family. I didn’t know them but I felt bad. People can be monsters.
For the petit murders the police didn’t arrive and the house was already up in flames. They sat there for over 2 hours and were too scared to enter the home. If they had entered the home when they got there, all 3 of those lives would’ve been saved. They also pushed the lies to the media that William petit was involved. I grew up in ct and thought the father orchestrated it because of the media depiction of him being involved, it was on the news constantly. Shame on the Cheshire police for the way they acted during the crime and the many months after.
Police's actions were just like in that school shooting incident, what's the name, it was last year, in Texas: Arrendondo was their police Chief, and same as the Chief here, he wanted SWAT and god knows how many other agencies there first, he forbid anyone from doing anything, and they laid siege to the school for over an hour with the shooter still killing in a classroom. I'd say, the police Chief was the culprit here, too: no one would dare to go ahead and do anything without his permission.
@@raphaellavictoria01yea was abt to comment abt ulvade but u beat me to it lmao, it’s fucking despicable when the people who have over 3k worth of gear are scared of a crazy guy w a gun. they should’ve gotten their ass’ in that school n done something. hell even let the parents run in there na ave their kids but to keep ppl out and not even go in yourself is pure unfiltered pathetic human existence
I don't think that "You alive?" text is a huge red flag, I say that when I don't hear from someone for awhile lol but now that's got me all paranoid
I have said that before when I dont hear from someone I'm trying to contact.
I think NOBODY would write that to cover up a crime.
If that text is considerd as a red flag then I am chengis khan.
@@ajmalsafi13 How is Genghis Khan a red flag? People say the most idiotic comparisons smh
@@ananasbanana Chengis khan and gang killed most human in recorded history. If "you alive" text considerd as a red flag for a potential murderer then I killed almost a million people because I sent it to everyone. There for I "sarcastically" said I am chengis khan.
"He sent a message 'you alive?', suspicious words"
Me, who always sends that message to anybody who hasn't been on for a while; :|
Same here/mates always send "you alive?"
Me too. "are you still alive" lol
thats also my go to phrase when my friends arent responding oof
Exactly
Literally me to my best friend everyday
Third story is very sad. I truly think the police could’ve saved the girls in time if they did act quickly. They also could’ve sent two sets of police to her home and to the bank. Such a sad loss for those beautiful women. 😔
I feel so sad hearing about the Petit family murders. Such a trivial thing like going to a grocery store can trigger this terrible event. What would have happened if they haven't gone to the grocery store this day? Would they have lived a happy and normal life? What about the murderers? Would they have targeted another family? Is that family alive now thanks to the fact that one of the murderers took an interest in Michaela and Jennifer?
I think he stalked them bc he already knew of them having money. Regardless, to me, this case highlights something else: the need to have ACTUALLY secured entrances to one's home. Had there been a serious lock on the cellar, had there been bars in their windows, etc: if they can't enter, they will go away. Do you have a solid door, a lock with a key that is not easily duplicated, what about your windows, your basement? It's terrifying.
@@raphaellavictoria01Excellent advice re securing one’s house. I thought the same about their cellar door.
@@raphaellavictoria01 There is some truth to this. In my country it is standard practice to have window grills, gates, multiple door locks, etc. Even posh gated communities where celebrities live have huge gates in their homes here. It was surprising for me to learn that this is not common in america.
Saying that the pervert in the #3 story had become obsessed with Michaela and brutally attacked her tells you what kind of attack it was 😞 Breaks my heart that a sweet 11 year old had to endure that in the final moments of her short life.
The Petit case pull my heart strings to no end. He tried so hard to get help sadly it was too late. The bank failed her to a fault the cops even dropped the ball.
Two parolees looking to do what they do best commit crimes and kill as naturally as they breathe air! Makes me sick!
Love the production quality of these. Feels like those TV shows that used to be on in the early 2000s.
I agree, they really put in a lot of great work 👍 especially this guys voice , truly amazing 👍
@@rhiannonbanannon9604 you okay?
@@NullVoidgone 🤣🤣🤣
Oh how I loved the early 2000's
apparently, someone purchased the home where the murder of the final story in this vid took place. the person turned this home into a haunted house and literally recreated the crime scene in the kitchen with fake body parts in the oven, in pots and pans, and in the fridge, just like addy’s body was. like, how absolutely fucked up are you to do that?
Oh wow that’s sick. Who would do that?
I thought there’s a law that was created after a series killer got caught that banns earns on any crime. am I missing something? and what sick minded would visit that place even if he created it?
@@gondolin12 it’s the criminal that can not benefit. Anyone else is open season. They’re probably getting rich.
Jesus that’s f**ked up!
Sadly, just look at the high number of both tv shows & RUclips channels that do similar acts. Making money off of other's painful & miserable horrors and calling it entertainment. I'm not sure what's worse, those profiting or those giving the profits.
the one with domestic violence makes me mad (Gail Katz); my mom would contact the police regularly about my father hurting her, and they either blamed it on her or ignored it and it’s disgusting. i hope that poor girl rests well, the world failed her.
What are they supposed to do? Women are stupid they stay and defend it
I remember the Petit family murders. So very sad. Those men don't deserve the air they breathe.
The Petit family were failed so hard.... That awful tragedy could've been prevented.
Agreed, why not send a cruiser to each location?
Also I can't get over how the police manage to bungle every single case on this channel because they immediately blame the people who are in actual danger/trying to help
Re: case #3 and 2:
Talk about POLICE INCOMPETENCE but even more so the *firefighters’ incompetence!!!*
Can you imagine they stubbornly wouldn’t drive around on sidewalks and grass lawns in their trucks because they were waiting for the *road to clear* for half an hour while police was tinkering with the two psycho criminals?!
WHY?!?!?! 😵😳🤯🤭🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
All the while the poor three women/girls were *burning alive* to death in the house!!!
I would contend they’re even *more incompetent* and absolutely psychopathically indifferent, cynical and callous, than the police!
What’s wrong with these “emergency” services in that state?!
Seems like they’ve done it all on purpose, because they WANTED for that family to suffer and die.
I am surprised the father did not SUE the PD and the FD for *NEGLIGENCE and incompetence!*
He should have.
You really understand the defund the police argument after watching enough true crime.
The fire department wasn’t allowed to help until the murderers were apprehended????? Those poor girls might have been rescued
Probably still not, as the carbon monoxide can kill in munutes. It's on the police to should have acted faster.
@@AntediluvianRomance and the fire fighters could have been killed by the murderers...
I could listen to this narrator talk all day long!
Also, the visuals in these stories perfectly flow with the stories. Amazing editing job!
The Cheshire home invasion really rocked CT all around. I remember hearing about that and being terrified that someone could follow me home and do the same. Really wish we had better police in all aspects
The first case is a classic example of lazy, inept policing. When they get a scenario in their heads, they skew the evidence to fit instead of following where it goes.
Yep, they seem to follow the path of least resistance, whatever ‘solves’ the case quickest…so many r caught in their lax & lazy efforts.
Yep. It's a logical fallacy known as confirmation bias, and one of the biggest investigative mistakes one can make.
I guess u would have done a better job lmao
I'm not one of those super picky people who can't listen to a video on YT unless someone's voice is "just right" - that's picky and weird to me, as I'm interested in the content. However, I think the male narrator for all the EWU channels has one of the best voices for the genre that I have ever had the pleasure of hearing, as well as terrific content. Great channel!!
I agree ☝️
Try Top15 or Chills. Curious what you might think about him. Definitely an acquired taste
Took me two weeks to make it through the entire 30 minutes. Such an artificial voice, that adjusting the playback speed didn’t have any effect on the tone.
@@giantfatberg can't believe ppl watch that shit and at the same time endure someone who needs speech therapy
My mom has texted me "You alive?" for my whole life, especially if I hadn't called or texted in a while or when I was supposed to check in with her and I hadn't. So to me it's not that shocking or suspicious.
My wife and I have lived in Russellville all our lives. The RPD definitely screwed Nonas homicide up. I don't think she'll ever have justice. The FBI or state police should have been brought in.
Right after the story about the Petit's... when you said "I know, I know. It's hard to come back from that one." I felt that. 100%.
My eyes were starting to well up hearing about the memorial & the dedication at Dartmouth... & I just felt like you were talkin to me. ;)
You both are amazing narrators. Seriously. But your voice is my fav. Have you done any other narrating?
Not gonna lie, I feel bad for Kevin, that's some BS he went through
I’ve seen a lot about that case and he really went through it. I can still see his eyes poor guy.
I lived in Cheshire during the pettits murder and it shook our whole community. What a loss. U guys will be ever in our hearts
"I'm smart, I'm loving. My love will cure." Welp, she sure did contradict that first statement. Honestly people stop thinking your love will save a toxic person. It's not worth it to stay in an abusive relationship. Stop ignoring all the red flags just cuz you see some shred of human decency in them from time to time and just run!
apparently she had a loving family so she did have a place to go, sad she didn´t do that. Iknow people can feel heavily trapped with their abuser even if they´re not. But seriously..if someone hurts a pet (or person) on purpose LEAVE the F immedietly.
"You alive?" is extremely common. Practically everyone I've ever texted has used that at some point, usually when you don't hear back within a reasonable amount of time.
This amount of murders in America is insane.
CT native here, it definitely hit the entire state hard. Another case where the daughter lived, my mom had the pleasure of being there the night it went down. And was able to stay with the girl and comfort her, very surreal moment. Thank you for bringing awareness.
I lived near the Pettis for a short internship & I was about 21… it was so devastatingly real that I couldn’t eat for a while.
Please do a story on my fellow Columbia U student that was horrifically tortured by a CONVICT who was just released for doing almost the same thing. 2007/2008 Robert Williams
Bro wtf hahaha. 'It was so devastating I couldn't eat..... anyway please cover the story of someone I have a vague relation to!'
Police often don't follow the evidence to find out who committed the crime, but decide who committed the crime and "find" or actually create evidence against that person, of course ignoring or even concealing all evidence that leads in other directions.
It's known as "Confirmation bias." More common than it should be.
*I literally always text my friends "Are you alive/are u living?" When I get no response*
I just can't wrap around the family that perished in the fire. Police had her address because that was on file with the bank. It's ridiculous beyond all measure, to the point of disgust. I hope to dear God, that police chief was fired, was held in court for mismanaging the whole event, by doing criminal charges. 😡
Unfortunately not, the fact that the went directly to the bank and didnt send a car to her house too is mind boggling. The town has plenty of officers and they don’t have much to do there.
"A glimmer of hope emerged when a human thorso washed up" is a really interesting sentence
I was thinking the same
For the fourth story, how is it that no one has questioned the fact that Margaret Sanchez and her boyfriend committed a murder in a similar manner that Addie was killed?
That's what I've been thinking as well! I suspect that they both killed the girl, dismembered her body, made it seem like the guy killed her, killed the guy, and made it look like suicide due to guilt/no remorse for killing the girl. I am suprised this theory isn't mentioned in the video or in any of the comments.
Second theory the friend is a copycat killer and has stolen his MO because she new it well?
@@gaurikakhosla5011 it isn’t mentioned because security caught the suicide moment on video, so it was no doubt a suicide. Considering that, the likeliness of him committing suicide with a forged letter in his possession without being aware is extremely low.
@@gaurikakhosla5011 I think they developed an obsession with Addies killer and wanted to carry out the same murder, I doubt the suicide was faked.
@@gaurikakhosla5011 yeah i felt the same
Thank God for that jury that found Nona's boyfriend innocent!
Absolutely, because if it was left to those incompetent cop's, he could very easily be another innocent person serving a life sentence in prison.😳
A lot of people have clowned this woman for not immediately leaving her toxic relationship. “My love will cure”, this is such a clear scenario of a man taking advantage of a woman and manipulating her. By saying she was stupid for not getting out of there immediately, you fail to see how someone like that could’ve easily gaslit and manipulated this poor woman. People never think about those kinds of things, it’s always “Well i’d never stay with a guy like that”, please remember that being manipulated, gaslit, and groomed ( even as an adult. ) are all very real things that happen to people, and it can completely warp your world view.
I live close to Cheshire CT and when the Petit family murders happened I was only 11 but I remember the huge impact it had on the state. People still talk about it today. Such a horrible crime! I feel so bad for Will!
I lived a few minutes away from the Petit family and remember when that happened. Such a tragedy that could’ve had a different outcome…Cheshire police have blood on their hands. They arrived at their house before it was lit on fire and waited outside
Absolutely infuriating the bank personnel didn’t help her
I’ve watched another clip on this case and the bank personnel apparently did ring the police and they went to the house and sat outside for 30 mins before entering. During these 30 minutes was the time the torture began and the daughters and mum were killed.
They had time to go in but didn’t xx
They called 911 straight away, even though she told them not to. What else could they do?
I wouldn't blame the bank teller...
The cops were the ones who really f*cked up
I text "you alive?" to my oldest son all the time. He's married and living in the next town over. I usually talk to him every few days, and if he doesn't reply to my messages, I'll text back, "you alive?" .... Hmm... Maybe I'll rethink it next time. 🥺
Me, too.🤣🤣🤣
Isn’t it amazing how the police automatically assumed Jennifer was part of a bank scheme instead of taking her actual word that she was in trouble? …
Thanks for including the New Orleans story, not many people include out stories (even though we have one of the highest murder rates) I was born, raised, and still live here. I was 17 and only 2 weeks into my senior year when Hurricane Katrina hit. Even though I went to 3 different high schools that year, I was able to graduate from my actual school at the New Orleans Arena (next to the Superdome).
What's the name of your school?
@@brijitglapion4577 Andrew Jackson Fundamental Magnet High School
It is an honor to be among some of the first people to view this production! Thank you for all your hard work EWU; I'm happy to have been part of the crew since the early days 🥰 And what a crazy collection of stories, especially ones I'm not super familiar with. Raven, you weren't lying when you said it'll be a rollercoaster of emotions exceeding beyond those illicited from soap operas lol!
@@katalinas9264 Yes, I'm honored to be able to watch all the quality work EWU puts out. That's called complimenting someone; a social norm you're obviously unfamiliar with. I'm sorry no one loves you- I'd shit on people's enthusiasm too!
@@katalinas9264 Stop projecting your self hatred on others. Get help.
@@emo_penguin420 ♥️
@@earthangel3108 💕💕
I live in Connecticut and the Cheshire case was crazy. It was so scary because Cheshire is probably one of the safest towns in CT. So sad
Lot of cops out there too
i live the town over from cheshire & was 16 when this happened.. the cops seriously fxcked this whole thing up. so, so bad. i wish they didn’t take away the death penalty for those two “men” tbh.
may those beautiful young women rest peacefully.💛
Imagine the fact that the damn police were more worried about a bank scam, than a family!
Me and my siblings always text 'are you alive?' when we haven't heard from each other. It's literally a common thing people jokingly ask idk why people read so much into that as him being sus 🙄
You hurt an animal, you can hurt a person. Gale should've hauled ass out of that toxic relationship.... Smh 💔🤬
believe it or not when I was a child I killed 11 cats with a knife but I never did that again because I was upset
Thats what I said & love cannot cure that evil. A defenseless kitten. Obviously he was a narc & hopefully someone will learn from this. Narcs manipulate but facts r facts. I wonder if Id be in jail hurting him defending kitty?💜🐾💜🙏
@@aishadavina4426 My cat is missing & I looked in every bkyd & put up rewards. She is my Baby my emotional support & PTSD cat. Someone couldve of killed her? So many of my neighbors wouldnt chk their bkyards so I pretty much did & Im disabled & fell & hurt myself. I got her from metheads who abandoned & abused her so she was afraid of ppl. She thought she was a Princess & deserved the only best & would only eat fish. A palate that I couldnt afford so she'd eat better than me bc I LOVE HER SO MUCH. My hand tremors r back & when I wake from a nightmare she is not here to let mw know Im safe & loved. Her dad bolted going to the Vet so 2 cats in 2 mths. Never thought someone couldve killed her but not her dad, he can defend himself. She was my everything & Im sorry u mustve been in major pain to kill & no counselor or anyone to talk to? China puts live dogs on the barb & beats them while alive to tenderize. 60 MINS Aussie. U cannot unsee or unhear dogs plus other creatures in Wet Markets. They promised after Mers & Sars they were shut down so Aussies were going to sue China with these clips. Aussies have lithium so China needs them. They eat cats, rats, bats etc but clips I saw were dogs howling. Another virus will develop bc ppl r hungry in climate chg. Thought mad cow disease was bad & HIV guess zombie virus will be next. Id pray for God's forgiveness since he created creatures which Im so happy he did. Lassie for 1 or Mr Ed etc wtx
The tunnel vision of the police in the first story scares me
I was actually in jail in the same holding cell as Margaret Sanchez when that happened. I also was friends with Jaren Lockhart as well. Imagine the terror sitting across the murderer of my friend, but not having any clue of it until being released the next day..
Woah I can't even imagine 😳
I'm sorry girl, awful absolutely horrifying.
County jails are crazy, they'll place people who forgot to pay their tickets next to psycho murderers. Here in Colorado a boy stabbed his family to death and they had the guy in general pop, he was actually in my bay. I'll look up the case if anyone is interested
You need therapy...
I actually use to work with terry speaks when he was in North Carolina!! 😳😳 talking about crazy
This was a GREAT episode. Also very sad! 🥺 Fantastic content I love your channel.
Nona was "shy," "sweet," and yet casually pomping other okes. That is the very antithesis of shy and sweet.
Zack and Addy. A tragic story. And proof of how the Veteran's Administration fails our vets still to this day. 💔
This likely had little to do with Zack's experiences in the military. He was obviously a born psychopath to be capable of the things he did. He had been burning himself with cigarettes for years prior to his service. Just because someone is a veteran and they do something horrible...that doesn't automatically mean that horrible thing was caused by their experiences during war. I spent 20 years in the Army as a combat medic and deployed multiple times to Iraq and Afghanistan. I lost many brothers and sisters over there and saw some stuff that haunts me to this day. I have had numerous friends become addicts and/or commit suicide. War will mess you up. But don't think for a second that Zack was the way he was because of his time in service. That's like giving him a get out of jail free card. He was already a very badly broken human being wayyyy before his Army days. A normal person does not do the things he did no matter how many effed up things they've seen and experienced. Murder? Sure. It happens all the time. But what he did to Addy was absolutely barbaric.
@@albtckl Zack was not born psychotic. Watch Jon Chrymes Zack & Addy story. No one is saying all Zack's problems are because he was in the Army. But it's a huge part of why he broke. He needed help. The VA fkg failed, again. you can think whatever you want. My husband is a 3x Iraq deployed combat veteran, US Army. He has PTSD. It took 7 years to get his rating and help. The VA failed. I'm not saying you're messed up. But the Army breaks people's psyche, yet have no problem taking their own sweet time to try to fix it.
@@albtckl and a "get out of jail free card"... WTF are you talking about? Zack paid with his life.
@@lenard765 well said, and thank you. Do unto others.
Am I the only one that thinks he was plied with alcohol and pushed off of the roof? They were friends with a couple that did the exact same thing to another girl. Thats an extremely unlikely coincidence
Police really messed up the Pettit case. I heard about that and couldn’t believe they refused to act.
These videos are so well-done. Narration is excellent. The details to the cases are perfect. All in all you are a real addiction to true crime enthusiasts.
Poor poor Girl!!!
JUSTICE FOR NONA!!!!!
Bless her heart and soul! Her poor family also!
The incompetence of the cops in the first story was astounding...i feel sorry for Kevin
So they just ignored a suspect who lives in her complex bc of he said he was at a store but if they simply looked at the date they could tell he was lying? I’m confused are they detectives or
Tragic all of these cases. The neighbor whose alibi is an easily discovered lie could've prevented her boyfriend from all that. f'd up cop delays in the 2nd case. . Sadly you always have to be aware of people following you.Gail that poor soul never should've believed her love will change an egotistical violent man. Just glad the killers were found and some form of justice was served
These stories are made even more creepy by The Ravens voice! Thank you for the awesome videos!
So the police raced to the bank instead of the house, based on their belief of her being complicit. I’m losing faith in the police more and more every day.
“A glimmer of hope emerged when a torso washed up on the shore” is a weird sentence to say out loud.
Not many cases affect me on a deep level anymore but #3 brought me to tears. Wow!
This is by far my favorite narrator, he’s voice is truly epic , makes the videos so much more interesting 👌😁💯
Thanks EWU CREW for the great content, best channel ever 👍💯
"Wait... Say what?" You took the words right out of my mouth!
A cop saying "I have no doubt" means absolutely jack shit.
My favorite RUclips channel!! Hope you guys are working hard because I watch your videos every day!! I can’t get enough!! 🥰😊❤️👏👌👍
Sheesh that's brutal. Not only did he find his girlfriend's brutally murdered body, he also found out she was sleeping with other men behind his back. Then to make things worse he gets accused and trialled for her murder simply cause it made sense that he did it. I hope he's doing okay wherever he is cause damn, once again, That's brutal
The petit family case was so horrible- he used to be my grandmothers doctor! We attend a charity motorcycle ride for them once a year- not sure if it’s still going on since Covid but it was an awesome alliance
I love your work! Thank you for your creativity and research.
This is like the 3rd story I've heard where a group kidnaps a family, sends a person to a bank to extract money and the stupid bank manager takes all the wrongs steps and it results in one or more deaths!
The bank manager certainly isnt at fault in this case. They called 911 despite the mom telling the teller not to (timestamp: 14:19). She did all she could at that moment. From then on it was the LOCAL POLICE who took the wrong steps.
14:34 - Instead of going straight to the family's home; they went to the bank instead
15:18 - firetrucks had to WAIT until the men got apprehended BEFORE putting out the fire??????? (Isn't it the job for firemen to rescue victims....in a fire?) 2 lives couldve been saved from smoke inhalation if the fire dept was called in right away
16:25 - waiting 33 MINUTES before going to the family's home
16:31 - police chief telling units to "STAY AWAY" from the area until HE arrives (ridiculous if u ask me)
16:37 - SWAT team FORGETTING???? their bullet proof vests(????) (honestly i could not wrap my head around this one)
Idk what type of stories uve heard abt bank tellers not making the wrong moves; but it aint this video my guy.
Ultimate fault was on the police. Hope it haunts them for the rest of their lives. They would probably be more of help if they quit their jobs.
That second story started on my 19th bday.. July 22nd, 2007.. I hate hearing of families going through horrible things while I'm celebrating... Makes my stomach turn everytime! I can't even begin to express my feelings of how they failed this family as well as the young couple in the first story.... They wouldn't even check the fire until they apprehended the men?? Some protocols needs to either be changed or some people needs to make executive decisions in mid tragedy! I would lose my job for someone's life!!!
sending a text to someone asking if they're alive is a normal thing lmao
I love this narrator. You had me at “Wait whaaaat” 😂😂😂😂😭
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Struggling to think of another case where a ginger man was erroneously incriminated for another ginger man's crime and it had nothing to do with their hair color
HOW DOES A SWAT TEAM FORGET THIER BULLET PROOF VESTS.
love your storys and love your voice 😗
18:57 If there's anything to take away from this tragedy, it's that this is never true. Your love cannot fix violent people. Get out of abusive relationships. There is nothing but suffering in the future of these people.