Jocko Willink: War, Leadership, and Discipline | Lex Fridman Podcast

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  • @lexfridman
    @lexfridman  3 года назад +479

    Here are the timestamps. Please check out our sponsors to support this podcast.
    0:00 - Introduction & sponsor mentions:
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    3:10 - The beauty and tragedy of war
    8:44 - Soviet Union in World War II
    15:03 - What makes a just war?
    28:39 - Jordan Peterson
    31:51 - Fear of death
    36:02 - Autonomous weapons systems
    47:37 - What makes a great leader?
    50:24 - Elon Musk - a leadership case study
    1:04:12 - Steve Jobs - a leadership case study
    1:14:24 - Sundar Pichai - a leadership case study
    1:21:24 - Young Jamie
    1:25:32 - Discipline
    1:28:24 - A day in the life of Jocko
    1:34:39 - Jiu Jitsu
    1:50:27 - Books

    • @iketerrible6661
      @iketerrible6661 3 года назад +6

      Hey Lex who wins if you and Jocko roll? Are you tapping first or is he? 🥊👍great podcasts! Love your content with Bret

    • @chesstictacs3107
      @chesstictacs3107 3 года назад +8

      Lex, thanks for the great guests. It would be fantastic to see Peter Thiel on one of your upcoming episodes.

    • @giraffeasaurus8643
      @giraffeasaurus8643 3 года назад +10

      @jazz biz the length of comment has an inverse relationship with dick & brain size.

    • @kyron42
      @kyron42 3 года назад +2

      I'd like to see Jocko the next expendables movie.

    • @mirandaei80
      @mirandaei80 3 года назад +1

      @lexfriedman
      Excellent choice in guest Lex - and excellent questions. So thoughtful and pointed. Great (GREAT) job!

  • @xrunner55
    @xrunner55 3 года назад +5367

    It's like the terminator from the first movie gets interviewed by the terminator from the second.

  • @FPSGameClips
    @FPSGameClips 3 года назад +3343

    Lex: Spends 3 minutes constructing a well thought out, open ended and philosophical question
    Jocko: Yes

    • @calvitocalvon1711
      @calvitocalvon1711 3 года назад +68

      Lmao

    • @dr.doppeldecker3832
      @dr.doppeldecker3832 3 года назад +167

      Willink puts more focus on making a mean face than constructing a well thought out response:)

    • @McBain2024
      @McBain2024 3 года назад +69

      Jocko: Good

    • @hiddenknowledge2012
      @hiddenknowledge2012 3 года назад +91

      @@dranreb1118 I'd say he asked too thought out long questions. It was always about to get to the point of the question then it never did.
      Either way. Epic podcast.

    • @calvitocalvon1711
      @calvitocalvon1711 3 года назад

      @@craiggrocott7559 lol

  • @jakedivita
    @jakedivita 3 года назад +775

    Lex: "How's the old man doin?"
    Jocko: "You talkin to me?"
    I fucking died

    • @markcampbell8158
      @markcampbell8158 3 года назад +5

      Someone better write that up for a movie. That was great.

    • @DaviAreias
      @DaviAreias 3 года назад +13

      So almost did him

    • @jarischol331
      @jarischol331 3 года назад +74

      Now Lex has a near death experience

    • @syderwarp
      @syderwarp 3 года назад +4

      What minutes is that?🤔😳😲🤣

    • @kuumaaa
      @kuumaaa 3 года назад +35

      @@syderwarp 1:33:05

  • @TANGOSVC
    @TANGOSVC 3 года назад +565

    I wish to see Lex, wearing a full adidas tracksuit to the interview.

    • @jul6956
      @jul6956 3 года назад +20

      Blyat

    • @darkfangulas
      @darkfangulas 3 года назад +24

      Squatting the whole time

    • @jonih3274
      @jonih3274 2 года назад +26

      He just did, with Michael Malice lmao

    • @alstud1
      @alstud1 2 года назад +3

      His accent isn't strong enough to pull that off 😅

    • @boyracer3000
      @boyracer3000 2 года назад

      Brilliant

  • @falkenlaser
    @falkenlaser 3 года назад +1651

    Jocko caught every Pokemon in Pokemon Go using a landline phone.

    • @shantanu9404
      @shantanu9404 3 года назад +40

      These comments just keep getting better and better. Well done, nazi lobster.

    • @namrepusprime6793
      @namrepusprime6793 3 года назад +6

      😅 this 1 got me

    • @Forest9924
      @Forest9924 3 года назад +3

      How did you do this

    • @andygardner5810
      @andygardner5810 3 года назад +10

      'Private Pikachu. report your position!'

    • @simple-cut-progress2778
      @simple-cut-progress2778 3 года назад +3

      Legend says he fist fighted Mewtwo in his back yard while mowing the lawn.

  • @justinfeemster2023
    @justinfeemster2023 2 года назад +218

    It’s actually amazing how little patience Jocko has for Lex’s poetic sentimentality 😂

    • @beastmasterbg
      @beastmasterbg Год назад +37

      dude he seemed so over it with all the long questions haha

    • @mkf628
      @mkf628 Год назад

      maybe he sees through the bullshit.. an interviewer should shut the fuck up and listen...

    • @marcinp2782
      @marcinp2782 4 месяца назад

      His brain is really slow so he has a lot of trouble to process all the data.

  • @scarkilla9630
    @scarkilla9630 3 года назад +283

    Lex came at Jocko in a way 95% wouldn’t just because he’s Jocko. Great minds here. Great interview, really shows the humbleness of this beast of a man.

    • @caseyanderson7600
      @caseyanderson7600 3 года назад +43

      Lex is a robot so he doesn't have the same instincts to protect his self like a human being does.

    • @MikeF031
      @MikeF031 3 года назад +4

      @@caseyanderson7600 lol

  • @lomigreen
    @lomigreen Год назад +75

    My dad was a lieutenant in Vietnam. He was only interested in getting his troops home safely. They were Texas boys. He actually got them home safely and they showed up to his funeral in 2005. The funniest story was everyone in the squad having to use Campho phenique -a menthol salve-on their balls to combat jock itch from wading into brackish water. Eventually he came to laugh about it. War is hell. But I think my dad was a good leader. His troops loved him. Hoorah!

  • @TheGunmanChannel
    @TheGunmanChannel 3 года назад +589

    Beautiful intro there about America mate. Much respect, from Australia.

    • @crakatinni
      @crakatinni 3 года назад +6

      Gday cobba

    • @Cracktune
      @Cracktune 3 года назад +9

      respect from the US. Im glad to have Lex as an American

    • @Predestinated1
      @Predestinated1 3 года назад +6

      Australia is a racist country. I see what you are doing to people of color, especially black people and East-Asians and Indians

    • @tvcent4651
      @tvcent4651 3 года назад +30

      @@Predestinated1 how can a country be racist u muppet..theirs racists everywhere.

    • @CJ_Williams
      @CJ_Williams 3 года назад +7

      @@Predestinated1 what do you think they're doing? It's one of the most multicultural countries on earth.

  • @mostafaphotography2371
    @mostafaphotography2371 3 года назад +159

    Lex: Do you...
    Jocko: No.

  • @billlets5460
    @billlets5460 Год назад +48

    Jocko's communication, joice of words, and grasp of big picture forces is other worldly. Must certainly a trustable warrior-leader.

  • @Dynamite_mohit
    @Dynamite_mohit 3 года назад +420

    " Jocko can build a snowman out of rain "

    • @Hongobogologomo
      @Hongobogologomo 3 года назад +1

      oh my

    • @evansaidhi
      @evansaidhi 3 года назад +6

      I hope Jocko becomes the next Chuck Norris running gag

    • @gazicj
      @gazicj 3 года назад +2

      jocko builds raindrops out grains of sand

    • @semtex6412
      @semtex6412 3 года назад

      😅😂

    • @disposabull
      @disposabull 3 года назад

      Not a snowman, an iceman when the rain freezes in terror as Jocko glances at it.

  • @jameslee4519
    @jameslee4519 3 года назад +326

    It's kinda strange seeing Jocko in color. I thought you HAD to look at him in black & white, kind of like how you have to look at a solar eclipse through a filter to avoid eye damage

  • @Jon-bd5xi
    @Jon-bd5xi 3 года назад +133

    Having Jocko on your channel on the 4th of July is America as fuck! His book Extreme Ownership is a must read for anyone that wishes to be a leader or wants to improve their capability as a leader!

    • @ifoundthistoday
      @ifoundthistoday 3 года назад +2

      I just want to be chill and live my best life ... excess testosterone has limited benefits in the long run

    • @blo0mfilter868
      @blo0mfilter868 3 года назад +2

      @GOPareTerrorists lol trump is still in your head. still havent found a new scapegoat? kek

  • @scarybarry2275
    @scarybarry2275 3 года назад +268

    "I was born a Russian. I will die as an American."
    Wow. Respect.

    • @mansoorafridi2636
      @mansoorafridi2636 3 года назад +66

      That’s what a true Russian spy would say.

    • @YELLTELL
      @YELLTELL 3 года назад +3

      @@mansoorafridi2636 🤣

    • @victorialightning3017
      @victorialightning3017 2 года назад

      He is "proud" ga'y that's the reason he runaway from Russia

    • @delete7316
      @delete7316 2 года назад

      @@mansoorafridi2636 Where did this spy meme come about?

    • @mrcutkut
      @mrcutkut 2 года назад

      @@mansoorafridi2636 y spy if satellite in sky. Hi;)

  • @DarrenWulfen
    @DarrenWulfen 3 года назад +12

    This shows how streamlined and practical Jocko is and how depth can impede success.

  • @jasongray2431
    @jasongray2431 3 года назад +54

    I'd like a format where I can see Jocko's face when some of these questions are being asked.

  • @rafabar6652
    @rafabar6652 3 года назад +620

    Lex is a type of guy who launches a rocket from his mech-robot at enemy while saying: "what a beautiful way to die."

    • @TuskKult
      @TuskKult 3 года назад +41

      Lol, I can see and hear that vividly in my minds eye.

    • @MeticulousTechTV
      @MeticulousTechTV 3 года назад +4

      😅😅😅

    • @whispro4646
      @whispro4646 3 года назад

      @Danny Carvajal ha kinda true

    • @bradagee9041
      @bradagee9041 3 года назад +6

      Well, battle-mech Lex is not wrong.

    • @seraph6758
      @seraph6758 3 года назад +2

      😆

  • @self-transforming_machine-elf
    @self-transforming_machine-elf 3 года назад +134

    "What do you think about humanity being on a path to self-destruction?"
    "Good."

    • @Gallowglass7
      @Gallowglass7 3 года назад +2

      lol

    • @Brand00d
      @Brand00d 3 года назад

      Roger that.

    • @chrizzzz86
      @chrizzzz86 3 года назад

      Hahahah 🤣🤣

    • @GrottoGroveGroves
      @GrottoGroveGroves 3 года назад

      i believe it's ahead of schedule. good job! hedonisticly helping hell humanity.

  • @javier8284
    @javier8284 3 года назад +48

    Lex: Hopefully I see you on a mat one day
    Jocko: Could be sooner than you think.

  • @Eddie53172
    @Eddie53172 3 года назад +505

    They say Jesus walked on water;
    but Jocko swims on land.

  • @ateam137
    @ateam137 3 года назад +38

    I've watched a lot of Jocko and I've never seen him seem so serious and tense. It's as if Lex's line of questioning made him go somewhere that he doesn't normally.

    • @francorodriguez8252
      @francorodriguez8252 3 года назад +41

      I think he was annoyed at his intellectual pretensiousness.
      He had shitty questions. And they were long winded. As if they were deep and toughtful

    • @marksoria4160
      @marksoria4160 2 года назад +6

      He know lex is Russian intelligence

    • @jreviews5924
      @jreviews5924 2 года назад +1

      @@francorodriguez8252 100% agree with you on that. Lex was trying so hard to ask a question in the most absurd way possible, it was borderline cringeworthy.

    • @MoralesCorner
      @MoralesCorner 2 года назад

      I think he made him uncomfortable right away with all those questions about the morality of war at the beginning. Obviously Jocko is going to understand and read history and war from a completely different angle. They're not talking about the same thing.

    • @gmailaccount1964
      @gmailaccount1964 2 года назад

      Interrogations make people serious and tense

  • @luvbeans405
    @luvbeans405 2 года назад +15

    Lex is such an inspiration. His full commitment to being authentically himself warms my heart.

  • @davidrich6552
    @davidrich6552 2 года назад +27

    Jocko is a great example of CONTROLLED ego. Lex keeps coming at him with philosophical open ended questions and Jocko responds like a hammer driving large nails in two taps. Both guys just think on a completely different level and that was why Lex hardly at all followed up on Jocko's answers. It was weird....I was waiting for responses. Jocko is just full on military war machine geared and Lex, bless his heart was trying to assimilate. Way to go guys, entertaining.

  • @Big_Pete.
    @Big_Pete. 3 года назад +64

    I just saw this and freaked out that my favorite Podcaster is with my second favorite Podcaster and idk which is which

    • @Big_Pete.
      @Big_Pete. 3 года назад +3

      @@LANCEtheBOIL when big dick energy meets big brain energy

  • @bryanmerica4074
    @bryanmerica4074 3 года назад +53

    Perfect guest for Independence Day! Well done sir.

  • @Xpistos510
    @Xpistos510 3 года назад +346

    Demonstrated are the two different mindsets of both a patient scientist who analyzes and explains data all day, juxtaposed with a commando whose job it is to capture a building and eliminate insurgents as quickly as possible. Both personalities are needed in this world. Both have their roles.

  • @jacklempke7779
    @jacklempke7779 3 года назад +39

    Lex, thank you for a fantastic podcast. I’ve always been a fan of Rogan and all you IDW guys. But I’ve always felt like I can’t be as good as some of these guys because I’m introverted, or not as smart, or I’ve made big mistakes that I know these guys have made, but haven’t seen them making. As the son of an immigrant, your 99% perfect English and your self admitted slight awkwardness draws me in because I feel a lot like you. And seeing you interview people like Jocko, it makes me feel like with my personality, I DO have something to offer the world. Anyway, I don’t know if this makes any sense, but I’m glad I found your channel Lex. I think you’re awesome. Thank you.

    • @melartista
      @melartista 2 года назад +4

      This makes perfect sense. We need all personalities to add value to our world. I hope you do something you love, and through your love for it, value bleeds to the rest of us.

  • @warlockEd73
    @warlockEd73 3 года назад +35

    So this is how it would look if Data interviewed Worf for two hours

  • @uasiddiq
    @uasiddiq 3 года назад +190

    Lex trying to be complicated is overshadowed by Jocko's simple sophistication.

    • @PhilippeCarphin
      @PhilippeCarphin 3 года назад +33

      So accurate! When Lex talks about the whole relaxing thing, it's a hard point to articulate and he gets it across. And then Jocko goes "I tell people to relax harder", that was perfect!

    • @Dogspark841
      @Dogspark841 3 года назад +29

      There are a number of questions the Jocko truly isn't understanding, not how to answer the question, but he isn't understanding even what the question is.

    • @Michels1
      @Michels1 3 года назад +2

      It was nice to see indeed.

    • @Spokenwisdom1
      @Spokenwisdom1 3 года назад +30

      Lex isn’t trying to be complicated. That’s how he is. He lives in his head so it’s naturally difficult for him to achieve the same level of clarity and simplicity that Jocko speaks with.

    • @Hellraizorr
      @Hellraizorr 3 года назад +10

      Not entirely sure that “trying to be complicated” is what he’s doing, it just seems to be his mode of thinking & delivery style.
      Joko is a mature man of action with a brain-Lex, on the other hand, is a very intelligent & sensitive guy who is slightly dysfunctional & a lot younger who isn't.

  • @HowsSIGHTS
    @HowsSIGHTS 3 года назад +98

    Tough Interview but you handled it great lex

  • @Peter_Parker69
    @Peter_Parker69 3 года назад +3

    Lex is the perfect interviewer for Jocko. I respect these two men a lot.

  • @AmericanWarrior93
    @AmericanWarrior93 Год назад +2

    Lex’s intro is beautiful and pumps me up.. my family immigrated to this country and I feel the exact same way. I love America and Humanity.

  • @massn1990
    @massn1990 3 года назад +37

    Props to Lex for not pissing himself when receiving the jocko death stare 18:36

    • @doorshotel
      @doorshotel 3 года назад +9

      I had a heart attack looking at it. You can see Jocko in a Legionnaire helmet thousands of years ago. A natural warrior and leader. Carved from granite.

    • @per_scep_tivegamer879
      @per_scep_tivegamer879 3 года назад +6

      hard to piss one self when one avoids eye contact to that extent.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +1

      How do you know that? Lex may have worn diapers for this interview.

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад +1

      @@per_scep_tivegamer879 Does Lex have social anxiety or something? I noticed he doesn't make a lot of eye contact and he fumbles his words somewhat regularly and overall isn't very well-spoken. He seems like a smart guy though.

    • @muzikjay
      @muzikjay 3 года назад +3

      @@johnsampson6387 Considering the fact that English is Lex’s second language, I’d say he’s pretty well spoken lol

  • @luke-oakley
    @luke-oakley 3 года назад +27

    One of my favorites yet. Lex, your questions have been on point, great progress. Jocko is like an iceberg, you managed to shed light on what lies beneath the surface.

  • @MarkMarxonsBassChannel
    @MarkMarxonsBassChannel 2 года назад +13

    This was an amazing conversation. Funny, dark, compelling, informative, inspiring and easy. Thank you Gents 🙏

  • @unedited8204
    @unedited8204 3 года назад +6

    A fascinating range of topics covered here, in depth and in very very useful ways. Jocko is as badass intellectually as he would be on the mat. Well done, Lex, for attracting such supreme guests and for wisely knowing how to get the best and all the use out of them that you do.

  • @adamwilson2227
    @adamwilson2227 3 года назад +186

    Lex is the type of guy to send a get well card to an enemy he has killed.

  • @Carolleemakesthings
    @Carolleemakesthings 3 года назад +6

    You’re not afraid of having the hard conversations- they are necessary and you do it gracefully. Thank you for that beautiful tribute to our country 🇺🇸

    • @chronicmastertrader2997
      @chronicmastertrader2997 2 года назад

      Are you afraid of dying? Ive heard this question a handful of times on a handful of episodes. THATS a hard question nobody wants to ask, and is necessary? Nobody asks it cuz its not moral and everybody should obviously not want to talk about their death, or how they feel about it. He knows it too, thats why he gets into his 'shy shell' when he asks. Its weird questions. Plus we all know and dont care to know the answers. Its either a "yes", and, well, duh...or "no", and your just a tough guy, who fears to show his fears. Because NO ONE, is not worried about dying and leaving loved ones behind. NO ONE! These interviews are like a 4 year old talking to fully mentally developed intelligent professional KIND people who not once speak their mind about these immature weird questions (not all questions). JRE interview....first question..."are you afraid of dying.....maybe, today?" Its unreal, embarrassing, and makes you want to spit your drink out, all at the same time. I hope one of these times someone speaks their mind about, "What kind of question is this". Put some russian cartoons on kid and grab ya sippy cup.

  • @Joecool20147
    @Joecool20147 Год назад +6

    This has to be one of Lex’s best interviews.
    I feel like I would have just gotten sorry for myself when Jocko answered the questions like he did.
    However Lex knew this was going to happen, prepared for it and perfectly blended his style and Jocko’s.

    • @camdenritter7652
      @camdenritter7652 Год назад +1

      I agree. My cheeks were tight this entire conversation. I felt like I was Lex 😂 His interview style is certainly the best.

  • @Zacyfarms22
    @Zacyfarms22 3 года назад +2

    Winning through losing is more valuable then winning. And when there's ego involved, challenge that ego and give it a chance to be humbled and shifted. Challenge being the main source of happiness. Creating the best version of yourself. So challenge yourself, and love to lose knowing you're doing something difficult and that is a win. That's what I learned among other things on this episode. I thought this was a beautiful discussion. And Jiu Jitsu is so powerful with changing perception. Makes me wanna get back on the mat.

  • @LetsTalkAboutPrepping
    @LetsTalkAboutPrepping 3 года назад +77

    Me: sees lex upload: ooh
    Me: sees guest: *OOOOHHHHH*

  • @Tlicious04
    @Tlicious04 3 года назад +50

    Couldn't have chosen a better guest for Independence day 🥰🥰🥰🇺🇲

  • @colyn544
    @colyn544 3 года назад +44

    30:00
    Jocko: "That's the butt"
    Lex: *Laughs quietly*

  • @spiritofthefuture6164
    @spiritofthefuture6164 Год назад +4

    Wow, what an interview! You both opened a many of emotional doors. It will take a lifetime to learn all the human inspiration received.

  • @Silkki6
    @Silkki6 Год назад +22

    As Echo once put it, "It seems that Jocko is in one of his moods today" :D

  • @Justin_GFM
    @Justin_GFM 3 года назад +329

    When Jocko was born, his parents were told "congratulations, it's a man"
    (comment credit goes to Jocko's comment section lol)

    • @euphegenia
      @euphegenia 3 года назад +13

      I gave you this like out of respect for you being honest that you didn’t conceive of the comment 👍

    • @sneakers_guy5488
      @sneakers_guy5488 3 года назад +1

      Holy shit I died laughing reading this lmao

    • @flowstategaming-c2t
      @flowstategaming-c2t 3 года назад +1

      Here's a version of this that I heard somewhere: When Jocko was born, the doctor told him "Congratulations, it's your parents."

  • @sammysam2615
    @sammysam2615 3 года назад +118

    Jocko beat the sun in a staring contest

  • @daemonz1979
    @daemonz1979 3 года назад +5

    30:57 Jocko's gaze seems to tell Lex: "You better change your agenda"

  • @brxndon4148
    @brxndon4148 2 года назад +3

    this guy is definition of a badass.. nothing but respect for this hero

  • @spytown77
    @spytown77 3 года назад +14

    As a proud American I have to say that intro was beautiful! 🇺🇲

  • @NathanCassidy721
    @NathanCassidy721 3 года назад +14

    First Tim Dillion interviews Glenn Greenwall and now Lex interviews Jocko.
    It’s is truly the 4th of July.

  • @Nword-Scissorhands
    @Nword-Scissorhands 3 года назад +7

    Lex's intro made me love my country more. Powerful speech

  • @kustom4935
    @kustom4935 5 месяцев назад

    The opening to this podcast, your love for being an American is beautiful and deeply moving. I love you, Lex. Don't stop spreading that love and positivity.

  • @JohnVallas
    @JohnVallas 3 года назад +2

    The first three minutes of this video...give me hope in humanity and this country. Lex, I respect and admire you from afar...and it's so inspiring to hear your words, behind all that Russian "stoicism"!

  • @kyron42
    @kyron42 3 года назад +41

    I'd like to see Jocko the next expendables movie.

    • @cryptouncle6630
      @cryptouncle6630 3 года назад +8

      Intro.
      First Scene. Meet the bad boys. Character build up. Explanation of the problem.
      Second Scene. Enter Jocko.
      End Credits.

    • @raminramin8206
      @raminramin8206 3 года назад +1

      stunt man of every male character

    • @recondogohome360
      @recondogohome360 3 года назад +2

      Honestly I wouldn’t, fuck Hollywood. Let’s get a game where he’s a playable charter

  • @guitarlessonswith4480
    @guitarlessonswith4480 3 года назад +158

    When Jocko went to school, the principal said, "when I grow up I hope I'm a man like you."

    • @goudafeta2165
      @goudafeta2165 3 года назад +1

      JACKO?

    • @guitarlessonswith4480
      @guitarlessonswith4480 3 года назад

      @@goudafeta2165 typo

    • @earl-larsen
      @earl-larsen 3 года назад

      @@goudafeta2165 wacko jacko steals the elephant mans bones

    • @johnsampson6387
      @johnsampson6387 3 года назад

      I've seen videos of a principal getting heightmogged by a young student who looks like more of a man than him. Genetics are brutal...

  • @evelinailiescu-nastasiu7991
    @evelinailiescu-nastasiu7991 3 года назад +33

    "If you don't struggle you don't grow"

  • @BrianDeCosta
    @BrianDeCosta 3 года назад +2

    It just blows my mind where we are in modern days. I'm only 30 but growing up I'd always wonder who the big decision makers were, where they were, and what they may be doing. And today here are two of them putting forth effort to create interesting dialogue for all of us

  • @kdrio99
    @kdrio99 3 года назад +14

    Lex really seems like a great guy. However, I had trouble with his lengthy sidebars/missives which disrupted the flow and tenor of this conversation. Ditto the Katherine de Kleer interview.
    He will get better and more consistent and I really appreciate the time and effort he is putting into this and all of his endeavors.

    • @alexisjuillard4816
      @alexisjuillard4816 2 года назад +2

      I feel it's actually the opposite most of the time, lex is much more to the point then most his guests.
      Here he talks more but I think you'd have been even more disappointed if the podcast had been normal lex jocko and reccuring 5 minute blanks lol, jocko isn't a chatter type

  • @flowstategaming-c2t
    @flowstategaming-c2t 3 года назад +5

    47:32
    Jocko: "So, that's why I'm not worried about it... *BRO.*
    Lex: *extremely tense nervous laughter

  • @olybobby
    @olybobby 3 года назад +4

    Lex, your opener was absolutely spectacular, inspiring and lovely. God bless you.

  • @arash1934
    @arash1934 Год назад +14

    Beautiful intro Lex! Very wholesome!

  • @kevinorr6880
    @kevinorr6880 3 года назад +10

    I really appreciate your monologue. Thank you. Inspirational.

  • @thecrazyandthewild
    @thecrazyandthewild 3 года назад +4

    Best interview of Jocko ever, in my opinion. Thank you both, have a great day!

  • @tacdriver911
    @tacdriver911 3 года назад +6

    That intro brought a tear to my eye.

  • @kdrake777
    @kdrake777 3 года назад +13

    Lex: Do you were worry about…? Do you worry about…? Do you worry about…? Do you worry about…?
    Jocko: No

    • @austinhamilton9444
      @austinhamilton9444 3 года назад

      I think Lex should have phrased it "do you ponder about?"

  • @Samson8
    @Samson8 3 года назад +29

    Jocko doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the ground down.

  • @jeremiahcustis
    @jeremiahcustis 3 года назад +26

    Lex - "Does the old man still got it?"
    Jocko - "Are you talking to me?"
    I can't believe Lex had the balls to ask that question. I couldn't stop laughing. It's at an hour and thirty-three minutes into this interesting talk.

    • @amirmeiti
      @amirmeiti 3 года назад +3

      Lex looks like a nerd but is black belt jui jitsu hes no wheenie

    • @roman5782
      @roman5782 3 года назад +10

      @@amirmeiti Against Jocko, you bet he is.

    • @gcoffey223
      @gcoffey223 3 года назад +2

      @@amirmeiti
      Lex is legit but would fo well to NEVER roll with Jocko

    • @amirmeiti
      @amirmeiti 3 года назад

      @@roman5782 of course the guys weighs a lot more and is a beast.

    • @mkf628
      @mkf628 Год назад

      trying to provoke jocko with a cheap shot..fail.

  • @TXSuplex
    @TXSuplex 3 года назад +9

    18:33 fully engaged stare of death

  • @Patso44
    @Patso44 3 года назад +6

    In my opinion, this interview is a perfect example to why Lex is among the top interviewers in the world. His questions are so specific yet overlooked and never asked from other interviewers. The leadership case study was so interesting, I had to listen to it on loop a few times!
    Thank you @Lex Fridman

  • @rogelio26901
    @rogelio26901 3 года назад +12

    01:33:00 best moment in podcast history

  • @Kai-ne3ks
    @Kai-ne3ks 3 года назад +77

    When Jocko takes a shower, he doesn’t turn it on. He stares at it till it cries

  • @enjoypolo
    @enjoypolo 3 года назад +8

    I feel like Lex is more tense in this interview, and confrontational stance. Can’t blame him, but Jocko’s a genuine sweetheart and has a lot more wisdom to share with us. Thank you :)

    • @4naans790
      @4naans790 3 года назад

      Yeah there's periods where lex doesn't make any eye contact whilst talking for minutes at a time

  • @DrukMax
    @DrukMax Год назад +16

    I would describe WAR and the fear of DEATH as follows:
    When I went to war I got on a train. On this train everything was about making in through together, doing what must be done, taking no unnecessary risks. The moments I came in contact with death the fear I experienced was quickly overshadowed with making in through together, doing what must be done. After the war I got off the train on my peaceful, familiar and save station, where I got in the train five months earlier. Only then I had time for contemplating, and noticed that everything looked different.

  • @liamthomson1380
    @liamthomson1380 3 года назад +13

    jocko can make snow angels in solid concrete

  • @the_real_santaClaus
    @the_real_santaClaus 3 года назад +22

    Glad to see Jocko smiling in the thumbnail.

    • @edehc
      @edehc 3 года назад +1

      😂

  • @joang.8735
    @joang.8735 Год назад +23

    I wish I could see Jocko's face while some of these questions are being struggled through.

  • @ToddJohnston-ty3xx
    @ToddJohnston-ty3xx 4 месяца назад

    God bless our veterans and all those who serve this nation and the sacrifices they have made to keep us alive

  • @jefftaf6361
    @jefftaf6361 3 года назад +82

    fuck yeah! Time to stop studying and take extreme ownership for not studying later on! hahahaha

  • @mtbjason4
    @mtbjason4 3 года назад +33

    Man, this interview was like oil and water.

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 3 года назад +7

      I thought it was a good interview,though.Kind of awkward,if I'm being honest.
      But I think that that was more because of Lex's interviewing style.

    • @mattrennie6876
      @mattrennie6876 3 года назад +5

      I liked how he didn't ask questions in a way to purposely get on Jocko's good side.

  • @irnbrew8962
    @irnbrew8962 3 года назад +8

    One of the things that concern me about A.I. or other 'autonomous' weapons doing the killing is that it becomes easier for the person doing the killing to disassociate themselves from the ethics of the act. It's easy to push a button in a room and turn a blind eye to the consequences.

  • @derekbraddy66
    @derekbraddy66 2 года назад +1

    This was intense.
    Lex is the philosopher, Jocko is the soldier. Verbose v. Succint.
    fascinating

  • @assetbackedsecurity
    @assetbackedsecurity 3 года назад +4

    Both of my favorite podcasters go into this cross-over conversation. My podcast app went beserk and I felt the shockwave of this gem by just reading the host and guest names. First time that I ever actually watch a full episode of Lex and Jocko on youtube instead of just listening to the podcast. This - is - a - weird - combo!
    My brain spins in circles - good ...

  • @JohnPaul-jg7es
    @JohnPaul-jg7es 3 года назад +114

    It felt like lex was a kid asking a grownup a bunch of questions lol

    • @mistermanmanmanman
      @mistermanmanmanman 3 года назад +9

      Ha I felt like it was the other way around

    • @JR-ju3kj
      @JR-ju3kj 3 года назад +1

      Him sitting across from Jocko,it does comes across that way.

    • @NinjaofApathy
      @NinjaofApathy 3 года назад

      I didn't get this inpression at all John Paul.

    • @NinjaofApathy
      @NinjaofApathy 3 года назад +1

      I noticed that towards the middle and end of the podcast, both seemed to be having a much more comfortable time talking with each other.

  • @felixf4378
    @felixf4378 3 года назад +7

    Jocko should have brought Echo with him for this one. It would have flowed so much better.

  • @rodrigotstipp1283
    @rodrigotstipp1283 3 года назад +4

    Two Giants!!! Hope when the mat time comes, someone is filming it so we can all have a master class!!! Another fantastic podcast Lex!!!

  • @v_o_r_p_a_l
    @v_o_r_p_a_l Год назад +1

    Greatest intro. Of all time.

  • @marcatkinson5187
    @marcatkinson5187 2 года назад

    The first three minutes of this one are the most powerful. So good to see a grateful immigrant. Welcome, Lex. You are the type of New American my father and uncle fought and bled for in wars past.

  • @notnoaintno5134
    @notnoaintno5134 3 года назад +6

    Just listening to this guy makes me want to lift weights

  • @koper1984
    @koper1984 3 года назад +9

    Jocko steps in, and it's Jocko's channel now

  • @GrapplersSoap
    @GrapplersSoap 3 года назад +3

    The end cracked me up "Could be sooner than you think"

  • @ays5696
    @ays5696 2 года назад +1

    Lex, thank you for sharing at the beginning of this podcast. Thank you for loving and appreciating your adoptive country. It is a refreshing perspective compared to some of the immigration/border issues we are dealing with only 3 hours from my home in South Texas.
    As to this country….my elementary school years were spent in the mid-1950’s to early 1960’s. We were taught to love our country, to appreciate its unique government structure, to love our brilliant Constitution, to appreciate our founding fathers even though flawed in some areas of character. We were taught to love our free and open elections, especially the privilege of casting a secret ballot so one could not be targeted by those who wanted you to vote other than you did. We knew this was not the practice in other places. Our fathers, grandfathers, uncles fought in WW2 and we loved them for it. We suffered with them through the PTS they experienced in our homes behind closed doors. We knew freedom came to us at great personal cost. For decades, it seems that our schools have taught our young ones not to cherish these things and to be hostile toward law and order. The education against communism is gone. But listening to younger Americans like you, this older woman has hope for the future of my grandchildren.
    Mostly, my hope is in the God who influenced the very founding of this country. As Jordan Peterson points out so readily, our societal foundation is on Judeo-Christian principles and practices. We fail in wanting to dismiss the necessity of religion in grounding our communities in order and peace to insure ongoing prosperity of heart and life. Jesus plucked me from hopelessness and fills me with joy unspeakable as I live in His Life which He so freely brought me into over 50 years ago. May you someday know Him too. It would be the greatest capstone to your journey. ❤️

  • @zachh5043
    @zachh5043 Год назад

    Lex saying how self critical he is to the point he hates everything he has done is so relatable. I feel confident in the things I do but looking back I often find it like I could've done this or said this to be better and it doesn't paralyze me but it makes me reflect so hard

  • @lesgrossman4636
    @lesgrossman4636 3 года назад +6

    Your preamble was first class, great interview too, keep up the great work

  • @wizard4203
    @wizard4203 3 года назад +7

    31:47
    Lex: are you afraid of death?
    Jocko: No.

  • @dedsummer
    @dedsummer 3 года назад +15

    this talk was epic. omfg. love how simple his answers are at times... sometimes, that's all you can just say.
    "fun"

  • @marshallmatters69
    @marshallmatters69 Год назад +8

    One thing I’ve learned, being apart of multiple startups in the “The Valley,” is that a leader should detox the culture from your presence. There really isn’t another word I can think of. The product is simply a byproduct of the culture. The purpose of making your bed is to simply start your day with contrary action. Most of your day should feel like contrary action. Happiness is that feeling when you put your head down on the pillow at the end of the day and you KNOW there is nothing else you could have done to make that day better. Strive for that feeling every night and you will live a life that you love. I know this because I have lived both. When people say how hard do you train I really don’t know what they mean. I’ve been very lucky to have been pushed when I was young there is really only 1 gear. This doesn’t mean I’m stretching vigorously on Sundays but I’m doing my best to get the MOST out of everything I do. Good stuff Lex.

  • @kotaofficialmusic7868
    @kotaofficialmusic7868 2 года назад

    “They are all manifestations of the human spirit, longing to strive for a better world”. You are a great American Lex.