We Told The Kids I'm Dying :(
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Jenny Appleford
7211 Haven Ave, Unit E-407
Rancho Cucamonga, CA 91701
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DIAGNOSIS:
March 19th, 2021 Stage IIIA Non Small Cell Lung Cancer (Non-Smoking)
February 2022 Stage IV Non Small Cell Lung Cancer (spreading to Brain, and other parts of lung and lymph nodes)
Gene Mutation EGFR with Exon 20 Insertion
TREATMENTS: Received or currently Receiving
2021: 8 Rounds of Chemotherapy (Carboplatin and Paclitaxel) with 30 concurrent radiation treatments to chest and lung
Failed Immunotherapy directly after Chemo and Radiation (Durvalumab, 1 round)
2022: Chemotherapy
10 rounds of Chemotherapy (Carboplatin, Alimta, and Avastin)
6 with Carboplatin, 4 without
Targeted Brain Radiation (Completed)
CURRENT TREATMENT:
I am on a clinical trial for my specific gene mutation
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The purpose of my channel is to document my cancer journey to look back on, and/or help anyone else going through anything similar. It is also to potentially help loved ones supporting those who are in this fight as well. This is also an easy way to update a lot of people at once. My main goal is to have footage of this journey for my husband and children to look back on. I originally created this channel as a sort of video diary for my
family.
Thank you so much for following along on this journey. Your love and support help me so much.
Retired psychologist here who spent the early years of my career working with children. You asked for suggestions and here are a few. Kids are amazingly resilient. As time passes, they may appear to forget what you told them. They live in the here and now and are at an age where they barely have a concept of death. For them, six to nine months is a long time. Some denial will set in -- which is very adaptive for them. They need to continue to be children, free of adult burdens. They need to have their own process. This is an enormous amount for them to handle. If they don't mention your death again, it doesn't mean they've forgotten. Its the only way they know how to cope with the enormity of this news, as well as the underlying fear that they will lose their dad too. They will at times just seal it off--kind of like putting it in a box and out of sight. They will proceed with their lives--they will continue to play, act up, make messes, make noise and just be kids. That is normal and that's what they need to do. They may also have questions that pop up now and then, especially the older child. Above all, they need ongoing reassurance that after their mother passes, whenever that happens, they will continue to be safe, loved and cared for, and that their Dad will be there for them for a very, very long time.
What an incredibly helpful comment. I truly hope they see this and appreciate and take your advice. I can tell how good at your job you must have been and how great of a loss to the profession your retirement has likely been.
I agree ❤
well said
I totally agree. As a counsellor of children myself I echo what you have said Francesca. Death is a concept that young children do not understand . Time also is something that barely exists when you are very young. If they see you the next morning Jenny, to them, all is well and the world is as it should be. Time enough to deal with loss for them, for now try and focus on the 'one day at a time' living and they will do likewise.
I read you comment and felt this had to have helped so many and I thank you for sharing. I’m scared and I’m praying for this family and I want to take it away and yet I cry like I’m a child that wants her mom because I know how this works. I’m a daughter who lost her mom and can’t seem to find her way. I miss her so much and I imagine this will be so hard for mom, dad and kids…. I continue to pray for your family!
Retired school psychologist here. I’d recommend sharing your prognosis and the kids’ knowledge of it with their teachers and school counselors/psychologists this fall. A lot of times kids vent their big feelings about stressful family events when they are at school (and conversely vent school stressors at home). This will allow the teachers to be understanding and extra supportive. It will also have them keeping an eye out for particularly difficult moments/periods and sharing their observations with you. I think you’ve mentioned in the past that the kids are doing some therapy individually or as a family. I really feel this is essential.
Excellent advice!
Another psychologist over here! I agree with everything you have recommended!!
You are amazing xx
Play therapist here. And yes yes yes!!
I agree
This is the saddest video I’ve ever watched. I don’t want you to die & leave those precious kids. I’m praying for a miracle! And Kyle, you are the best support anyone could ever have. Love you all! ❤
I’m with Ellis and I’m praying for a miracle. Two of my children predeceased me and I’m praying to them for a miracle. Six to nine months is not carved in stone. Just keep doing what you’re doing and know that so many of us love you all! 🩷🩷🩷🩷
Miracles still happen.
Yeah sure does if it's the Lord's will ❤ 🙏
Praying 🙏
I’ve read of one case of LMD being cured with methotrexate. Praying for a miracle too. It is absolutely possible.
Today is the day I listened to Kyle tell all of us that you passed away Jenny. Rip beautiful. I love your outlook on life and your ability to move forward as appropriate. Your family was so blessed with your presence in your life. RIP JENNY
Jenny, THOUSANDS out there are praying for you and thinking of you daily! Thank you for the impact you’ve made, and you’ve affected so many people going through the same thing! You are an Angel! ❤
I find myself thinking of you often. Its so crazy-I’ve never even met you but in a silly way I feel like we’ve been with you through this journey. I feel like I’m losing a best friend. I’m heartbroken for you and your family and am keeping you in my prayers. So much love guys ❤
Same 🥹I’m so sad! She is a trooper and i will continue praying hard!!
Por favor me diga o que está acontecendo?o meu celular está sem legenda e eu não entendo o que estão falando,sou do Brasil obrigada
@@MariaAparecida-bt2jx Jenny is dying from Cancer . Has been fighting it for quite awhile now. Lungs and has spread. Nothing they can do for her anymore. They have just told their kids.😥🙏💕
@@judymcgowan2881que notícia triste 😢😢😢😢 obrigada por responder 😔 vamos continuar pedindo a jesus que ele faça o melhor 😢😢😢
Same
My sister had lung cancer and was told she had 3 months to live. She lived 2 years. Only God knows the time for all of us.
Jenny, my prayers are with you. Kyle, you are so strong. Keep that strength going even though your heart is breaking.
Rest easy now, we will remember you
Man, I was crying my eyes out during the part that you guys were explaining how the kids reacted to the news. My mom heart feel for you. I pray that you have a miracle and I pray that your kids grow up to be wonderful human beings (which I know they would) and I pray that no one would have to go through this experience. Man, I'm just.... sad. Stay strong. Keep the faith. 💜
And yet people believe in an “all loving” and “all powerful” “god”.
@@47rushing Your negativity is not needed here TBH. Even Jenny said she is not mad at God just because she has cancer. He has a plan. People can believe whatever they wish to believe and it is not your place (or anybody's) to question or mock that. Go be negative somewhere else. Just not here or anyhwere else that needs as much postivity as possible.
@@47rushing We Each Have a Will to Believe How We Choose☆~It is Called FREEdom of Religious or Spiritual Choice♡...You, as Well, Have the Right to Not Believe!!
don’t give up, it’s not over yet. love you guys
Jenny is also going through grief for all what cancer has stolen from her. Very painful for her and her family.Big hugs.
I’m not sure how I even came across this video or why it’s on my RUclips feed but i can’t even get passed 0:14 😭 there are no words. I’m sending you all the love I can
I live about an hour from you. It’s crazy but all I want to do is drive down there, wave a magic wand and fix this. I’ve been through cancer twice so I get the sick feeling of fear. You guys are loved by many.
You guys are amazing!
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Words cannot express the sorrow in my heart for you, Kyle, Ellis and Winnie. You will never die. Your beautiful memory, heart and soul will remain with your family/friends and your subscribers who love you and your family so much forever. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
As a cancer doctor, I admire you and the way you and your husband are handling it. The only other advice I can give you is DONT GIVE UP! I tell my patients when you give up mentally, things get worse disease-wise. I had patients in your situation and thinking “ when I beat this:” and set a goal. YOU MUST BELIEVE IT! The way you think influences certain immune cells functions. I am not saying this is a certain cure but thinking positively affects your immune system in a positive way. My dad was an oncologist, and he told me of the many cases that surprised him. AGAIN, I DONT WANT TO GIVE YOU FALSE HOPES, BUT ALWAYS THINK POSITIVE, EVEN IN THE DARKEST HOURS. Hang in there. We have. Proton beam. Where I work. Just imagine the beam that kills the cancer cells stops in mid air. It’s like a bullet that hits its target and stops! Avoids damaging healthy cells. Again, DONT GIVE UP MENTALLY!
That is the key. Never say or even think I’m dying!!
Thank you for your very helpful insight. I would add just one thing. I work in cancer research in clinical trials and it is important to let these patients know there is a team behind them. A vast, serious team of researchers and medical professionals that do believe every day is a step closer to solid treatments and the goal of cures! They may never meet the team but in the shadows they are there and sharing every emotion. Go team!
It’s nice to know a doctor is watching this..shows you care..means so much cause many don’t care..thank you for that
@@mt_gox if you have only this to say better dont say anything. Mental is very import at this time. your commentbis inappropriate.
@@mt_goxincel brah needs to act like a toddler.
Pathetic
It’s so hard for me to wrap my head and my heart around this. I can’t even imagine the enormity of this entire ordeal for you and your family. Sending love and light and praying for strength feels so inadequate - and yet it’s all I can offer. Thank you for your courage in sharing your story.
There aren’t words that I can use to express how heavy my heart is for you and your family. I’ve watched you go thru this journey and it’s been rough. You’ve been in my prayers.
Regardless of all the ugly you’ve been through, your journey has cemented how strong, amazing, brave and positive you are. Please know that your videos will help thousands of people struggling. You’ve been such an inspiration and continue to be more than that. Thank you ❤
This is the first time I watched your channel. I have no words..... I can just say "Tears are prayers, they travel to God when we can't speak" Psalm 56:8. Tell your brave kids this. Our Jesus will bless you as a family abundantly whether there is a miracle or not. I am just sobbing now and while I can't speak, there is a lot of prayers going to God. Bless you ❤
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Good Morning Jenny and Kyle. At first I was praying that you wouldn’t tell your children as they are far too young, to not tell them until the inevitable is here, but everyone does things differently. I can only pray that by them knowing won’t have them living in great fear for months and months. Please know I’m not being ugly at all. Just very concerned about how this will affect Ellis and Winnie. It breaks my heart that your going thru this. I love you so very much, and feel as though your my children as I feel so emotionally connected with you, even though I’ve not met you in person. Please, try not to speak death over self. Rebuke this horrible disease, instead; speak life over self. Which I’m sure is hard to do given what the Drs told you, but at the end of the day: their just Dr’s. Gods will be done. And only God knows Jenny and Kyle. And God Heals! I’m believing that God will give you many more months than 6-9, but Only He knows. Jenny, your being so strong as well as Kyle. So, what made the Dr. tell you this? Has the Ca spread,is there no other treatment available for you? So many questions about as to why? Please know that you are so much loved, and there are so many prayers being said for you Jenny as well as Kyle, Ellis and Winnie. Your both so special to me and thousands. The Holy Spirit will comfort you both and guide you thru each day. Lots of Prayers and Love coming your way: Karla
My heart is breaking for you all! I can't even imagine how hard it'd be to have that conversation with your babies. Sending love hugs and prayers to you all and your family ❤
My heart is breaking for you all! I can't even imagine how hard it'd be to have that conversation with your babies. Sending love hugs and prayers to you all and your family ❤
I just stumbled across your video and I just want to say thank you ❤ my 50 year old brother was diagnosed with long cancer 3 months ago and we just got told yesterday that he only has weeks left to live... after watching your video I now know how I'm going to tell my children about their uncle so again Thank you love and prayers🙏 from Ireland 🇮🇪 🇮🇪 💞
So sorry about your brother. Prayers for healing and peace for him and your entire family 🙏
The Lord bless you and keep you, the Lord Make his face shine upon you, be gracious to you. The Lord lift up his countenance upon you and give you peace. I send my love and prayers ❤️ you are a wonderful couple. I'm glad you have each other.
I’m so very sorry! You two are so brave and so strong!
My father was diagnosed to what amounts to stage IV Small Cell Carcinoma and he likes to say he’s living with it. You and your family are in our prayers 🙏🏼
I'm so sorry you have to go through this. There are no words anyone can say to make it not suck. I love that you are giving your kids the gift of honesty and using terms that are clear and not confusing. I always hated when I had friends who lied to kids about pets or relatives passing or being sick etc. Kids already know when things are serious so lying to them or using terms that are confusing is such a disservice. You two are amazing!
I agree about honesty. I lost my father when I was 5 and never got over not hearing the truth. I had issues growing up about honesty. Little kids are resilient
Your grace, courage, and humility break my heart!
I watched the "she finally beat cancer" video a few weeks ago -- my introductions to the Apples -- so this was a wonderfully poignant opportunity to "meet" Jennifer in a long form conversation. For many years, I was an in-home hospice volunteer, and the honesty, tenderness, and bravery displayed by this couple triggered many memories. I'm so happy their faith in God seemed foundational to both. Blessings on the entire family.
My dad was very sick when I was 12. Turns out he died 2 times. He said that dying was this experience he just could not describe. The best and most awesome experience he has ever had ( and he was a hippy, and tried lots of drugs). He said there are no words to even describe it. He said it's like going to your ultimate home. He told me it is also nothing to fear.
This is surreal. I've lived through death when children are involved and you have definitely done the right thing. Sending you love.
Jenny, we all are dying. We just forget this is our lives. You've been given a time-line. What I have seen and what I know is this. So many people die and never have the chance to say their goodbye or do all of their should have, would have, could have. I think, like my father had this as well, this is a blessing. We had our time during this battle to do and day and make memories. It was a beautiful memorable time for all of us. Take this news and make your memories. We are ALL dying, some have just been told and reminded like you. I cannot even imagine what you're going through personally, but I've cared for many that are exactly where you are. You have been blessed in a way that you can choose your life to be the most amazing gift of love worth those precious babies and your amazing hubby. I'm sending you many hugs and wish you nothing but love and peace. Bless you!
You are both such incredible parents. Even though my children are grown now, I find such inspiration just from watching you navigate this journey together. Jenny and Kyle, you remain in my prayers…
I really wish the kids had been older when this happened. It’s so sad to lose your mother this young 😢
Words cannot describe what I feel for you and your lovely family. The fact that Winnie mentioned Leo and the fact that Ellis mentioned his miracle uncle mean so much. They are incredible kids and that's thanks to you and Kyle. My heart aches while i'm watching this as i have children the same age as yours. You are doing absolutely what needs to be done. Jenny, miracles happen. Take each day as there is no tomorrow! Cuddle with Kyle and the kids whenever possible. My thoughts are with you and your amazing support group. I love you as I would love my best friend
Oh my...your precious babies...I am sorry they have to experience this at such a tender age. Children are resilient and with Kyle's guidance and the foundation you both have laid for them, they will thrive in the future. They will know and feel your love down through the years. Praying that you all can stay in each moment in the coming months and just enjoy one another without overthinking and anxiety. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Sing this with tears in my eyes. Yesterday a video of her passing popped up in my timeline and then this morning was the first video on youtube. I'm dealing with health issues and I am so afraid of going to the doctor and I've been postponing it for very long. I have two teenagers and two children under 8 years old. I have to go. This story put things in perspective for me. I just wish Healthcare wasn't so expensive. Rip beautiful mama!
Jenny, you are so incredibly brave. I wish I could have had these conversations with my mom. I was an adult when she died and now I live with the sadness that she never told me how bad it was. I know it's hard- but in the long run your kids will thank you for this and will have peace. I am so sorry this is happening to you but rest assured you have impacted the lives of so many people. Sending you and your family so much love
12:20 had me in tears. Im so sorry you and your family are going through this. Sending you lots of love and prayers. 🙏🏼💕
Jenny & Kyle, my husband & I watched this video this afternoon in Australia, with tears streaming down our faces.
How hard this much be for you. Your darling little ones Ellis & Winnie…. 😢my heart hearts so bad for you all.
Praying for your miracle. Sending you all heaps of love and gentle hugs.
🙏🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🙏
12:11 “mommy, I don’t want you to die” from that beautiful girl broke my heart. Then E put his hand your back was just so sweet.
My heart is breaking for you. If I were dying I would want to write letters to my kids for Every ”big event” in their lifes, like graduation, Wedding, becoming a parent and big birthdays. Their dad would be the one to give the letters.
Your strength is unparalleled. I haven’t been here for the whole journey, but you are reminding me to love people better, and to be a better spouse. We aren’t promised tomorrow. One thing a good friend of mine said before passing was “gods in the business of healing, either I’m healed here on earth, or I’m healed by being brought to my father with no pain.” It left me speechless. We are all an army United behind you. Our love for you is weird because it’s through a screen.. but it is very real. I’m sure others agree. I’m lifting your family up, and praying for pain relief and some beautiful family time.
I'm so sad it took her in 3 months time! 😢
She gave it all she had and then some. Her body just couldn't take anymore.
This is so hard to watch. Your love for eachother and your Kids is especially hard to deal with. Cancer is a cruel thief and its time we had cures. How you cope now is truly 💔 wishing you a truly blessed time. 🙏❤️
I’ve only just discovered you guys, and I just wanted to say how much I admire the courage, the strength, the love of you both and for your family. I pray for a miracle and greatness for you all. This, as sad as it was to watch, is also so inspiring and really brings you down to Earth to celebrate life and those you love because nothing is promised. My heart goes out to you.
We are proud of you all
What you’re both going through yet still have the ability to find the words for Winnie and Ellis. As you said, they’re very intuitive so honesty is key as well as clear and concise words. They’re so fortunate to have you as parents. You’re examples in love, kindness, compassion, bravery , and strength. You both set the bar high as examples to follow. You and your entire family…extended family…continue to be so loved and supported. We’re all here for all of you!
Love is forever, not only in this world but the next as well, truly my heart breaks for you and your family. Lost my beautiful wife of 31 years 9 months ago, feel the pain of loss but rejoice in the Lord for He is our salvation. ❤ My prayers are with you.
I’m very sorry that you had to tell the kids, stay strong. I’m praying for a miracle. ❤️💪
Your kids are going to be amazing people, you did a GREAT job raising them !! And you still have time to do more, to spend time with them and make beautiful memories. Its so painful, the whole story, but still so satisfying to listen how mature and strong they are. I really wish you the best of luck and i will always hope for miracle.
Just re-watched this - your beautiful kids are growing up beautifully, dear Jenny........
My heart goes out to this family...😢 I had cancer it’s the scariest thing to go thru .. much love to your family.. my mom passed of cancer it’s a devastating sickness... your an amazing couple and family... the kids are definitely intuitive especially when it comes to a mom ❤
My heart hurts for your family. Literally lost it 😢when the screen said you talked with the kids and told them. They still don’t comprehend it all but the hurt will be so hard for them. I lost my dad to bone cancer, hardest thing I had to witness …..I am praying for your family that God will give you peace and let you feel the wind blow on your face and the kids faces, you will understand what I’m saying later down the road. Your kids are sweet and beautiful.
I am so sorry! Please live your life to the fullest while you can!!💗💗
I’m an avid you tube watcher and just came upon this video. I’m a nurse and I’ve never gotten used to people with diseases such as cancer. My heart goes out to you both,your kids and your family. You are beautiful people please know that.
I'm a new subscriber. I'm sorry to hear that you have cancer and you are dying. I have had family members that has passed away from cancer. My heart goes out to you and your family.
RIP 😢 you are greatly missed i wish the best for your husband andd children
Sorry to hear that Jenny and Kyle I hope you have a awesome day iwill be praying for your family 😇🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏😇🙏😇
Jenny has passed away
@@bonnie_may when did Jenny died on Nov 5 right her kids are cute
@@bonnie_may I know she was very young too we will all miss Jenny
Congratulations, super!!❤️❤️
She almost seems happy about it (dying). NOT EVEN ONE TEAR!🤦♀️
My heart goes out to your family unit. I lost my mother, 2 brothers and a nephew to cancer. Its difficult to face the unknown countdown days. May God be with you all during this difficult period of end stage cancer. May he also. give you strength , comfort and hope.😢💔🙏🏼🙏🏼🎗✝️☣️
And I have to say I never expected to be so attached to someone I've never actually met in person. I feel like I've known you and kyle for years. You are truly extraordinary people.
Agreed. They are the most beautiful couple.
I totally agree. They are like family to me. Love them all dearly and am praying so fervently for them .
Me, too. From, Australia ❤ ~
I feel the same. I'm truly in shock, and Mad mad Mad. I'm amazed AT how Jenny is handeling IT so well.
I agree also! From Canada. Love to all of you.
My son Will, passed when he was 12 years old in 2018. There was a story we read together called The Water Bug Story..by Dorothy Britt. It's such a great story about the transition from life. It's a children's story but it also brought me great comfort. He also left me a to do list of things he wanted me to do after he left, and he secretly made charms with his fingerprints on them and had them sent to me after his passing with the help of one of his hospitals. He was very thoughtful and kind. I do think those things help the ones that are left behind to have things to hold onto....I'm sorry that this is happening to your family its very hard to know that you have a set amout of time...anticipatory grief is very challenging and scary.... It's good to be honest with children they know and catch onto alot more than most ppl think. Terminal is such a silent but loud word....have as much fun as possible and make memories, have parties, laugh enjoy all the little moments together.
what a magical boy.
Your boy was a blessing. I think your ideas are wonderful. I'll probably have to borrow some ideas from your comment too. God bless you and your family.
Amen
My daughter died when she was 12 in 2021.
@Trekkifulshay I am really sorry about your loss. I lost my sister I'm 2017 kidney cancer she was 40 and my mom 2021 endometrial cancer she was 64 . I miss them everyday of my life
For Jenny to say "I'm so sorry for anyone else to go through this" says alot about her character. I am not giving up praying for you guys and for a miracle. #prayforjenny
They are a beautiful family xx
She is an such amazing strong young lady. To say I hate this for her is an understatement 😢😢
I have ALOT of serious medical issues which make treating my cancer with a guaranteed life saving surgery impossible. My heart is shot so no anesthesia for me. Ive had intense radiation. Didnt work. Theyre trying something else. Im just going to just keep getting up every day I open my eyes. I no longer keep track of the months. Im just living. Ill pray for your family. Keep living. Dont "bury" yourself before youre really gone. Take care. 💖
@@queenbee3647hun.. I don’t think you meant to comment this as a reply to this comment?
Prayers for you all and a Miracle God Bless
I also have stage 4 lung cancer. Your videos popped up and I sometimes watched them, but other times couldn't. It hit too hard to home. My children are grown with families of their own. My kids can process this, but you made me aware that I need to sit down with the grandchildren and have "the talk." I've been fortunate to still be alive for 2.5 years, but the brain has 2 new growths and I know my time is limited. Thank you so much for giving me some guidance in talking to my precious grandbabies.
Sending you many prayers 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Prayers for you & your family ❤️🙏
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My parents never told me. Thank you for being honest with your kids.
That was my parents solution too, dont tell me for my own good. Keep me in the dark until its too late. Made me confused when things happened all at once as a kid and looking back makes me godamn angry to this day. No one told me my Aunts cancer had returned, no one thought to tell me it was terminal and she was on a clock. No one in my family thought to tell me my Great Grandma was going down hill until all of a sudden she was in hospice. I absolutely wouldve carved out time to talk to her one last time, ask her questions about her experience as a Rosie the Riveter in WWII (which apparently no one else thought to do) and then boom she is dead before I know it. So frustrating. Just be honest with your kids and tell them stuff.
@@sergeantbigmacAgree. My Grandma died when I was about 6 or 7. I was staying with my Aunt when I overheard her on the phone talking about it and I was there while my parents and other family went to the funeral. I was so upset. Not only did they not tell me she died, I didn’t get the option of going to her funeral. I know I was young, but it hurt. Truth is always better.
“Can’t I die with you?” Winnie went directly to the heart of grieving. Amazing parenting for amazing children ❤
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Jen I have watched ur videos from day one no words can express the sorrow and love I have for u and ur family in my heart ur beautiful ur sweet u are loved by all and keep the love and prayers ur an amazing family we can all learn from this love each day laugh each day enjoy each day
Jenny, I know you want ideas....maybe you could make little time capsules for the kid's birthdays up to whatever age you choose...with letters, small gifts, or whatever you feel moved to give them.
@@pamsbirdinghat’s actually a great idea(although it’s sad at the same time). I think that is one of the only ways someone could feel the presence of a friend/family member/etc. who have passed away. It could kind of reassure them in a way that everything is fine and that person is still with them
When she said that, it instantly hit me right in the centre of my heart. 😢
In 1974 my father died of cancer at age 45. I still remember he sat each of us down individually and I was last. (I'm the 10th) I was only 6 but I understood. He told me he would not be able to be there for my life but he really wished he could be. He said he was sad he would miss my graduation, my wedding, my child being born etc. He told me "All through your life you will feel my hand on your shoulder". That conversation proved very important. Because he had the conversation with me, I always felt him with me. He HAS been there for me through my life. Those words have been the hand on my shoulder when I needed it. Just knowing he loved me kept him with me. PS On the subject of a 6th sense, I went to school one day and a nun asked me why I was staring at the clock and not paying attention. It was 9:45 am I looked at her and said "My daddy just died." I FELT it through my solar plexus and just knew. Some years on the anniversary of his death I suddenly look at the clock at 9:45am. You handled this so well. You are and will always be, a beloved wife, mother, sister and friend. Love is forever.
That is beautiful.
I've read through your post three times now and I'm crying it's so amazing. Thank you for sharing!
Thank you Nosy for sharing.
What a beautiful, deeply touching story you shared. I’m so sorry you lost your dad so young, yet am grateful that, in the way you describe, your dad stayed with you. ❤️🩹
I was 8 when my dad passed of Hodgkins in ‘74. Tomorrow is 49yrs he’s been gone. My mom passed of breast ca age 55 was at home in my bed trying to sleep when something deep inside me knew there was something wrong at 1 am. A few minutes later I got the call. I wish I knew what that was about….
My best friend was given 6 months to live here we are 3 years later and she's still fighting with chemo. Please don't give up 🙏🙏🙏. Keep fighting we are all your prayer warriors ❤. You guys are a blessing to watch considering the circumstances. Bless you and your family 🙏❤️
I lost my mother when I was pretty young, though not as young as your children. I just wanted to tell you both what an amazing gift these videos will be for them in the future. There is nothing better you could leave for them, I promise.
ABSOLITELY. A huge treasure. Invaluable.
That’s true!
My father died in a plane crash when I was two years old. I was never told that he died or what happened. I was just left to try and figure that out for myself, as I called out to him every time the door slammed, which was how he arrived at home every day. Later my mother said that you couldn’t talk to a two year old about death. I am 80 years old and to this day I carry the effects of that time. I just discovered this video a few months after you posted it. I am filled with admiration and love and appreciation for you both for the incredible gift you gave your children of the truth. Your story has a rare beauty in its sadness that reaches deep inside my soul. Blessings to you all.
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No age is too young to discuss death. I'm so sorry that happened to you, not being told the truth can be very confusing for children and can skew their beliefs about death permanently.
m'am i Wish u 100 more years. From PL
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That breaks my heart… I can’t imagine how confusing that must have been
As difficult as it was and as much as you never would have wanted to have this conversation, you have given your beautiful children a gift. As a bereavement counselor I have tried to help families see that these difficult conversations give children time to process what is happening. We often forget that we (adults) are processing the entire time from the moment of diagnosis. When children are kept in the dark, usually to “protect “ them, that time to process and prepare is taken from them. You are doing a wonderful job. In the meantime, I am also praying for a miracle!
Thanks for your professional insight as my instincts are to not tell the children, to not let them feel that pain till it was absolutely necessary.….as a Mother I cannot imagine this. My heart breaks for this incredible young family.❤
I agree
Oh, my heart goes out to both of you and your beautiful children. How brave you all are.. prayers for you.
You are right. I have met people who lost a parent as a child and never getting the TRUTH wrapped up in love and understanding from any adult was a scar that was very tough. These wise parents are truly putting the children’s tender hearts first not focusing on how hard it is for them…
Totally agree. When I was 7 and my uncle had a sudden brain aneurysm and was in a coma, I remember wanting my parents to be straight with me because they were dancing around the subject but I was old enough to understand. He passed away after a couple of days.
I’ve never cared about someone I don’t know more than you guys. You are both beautiful souls. Jenny, you are inspirational, beautiful, strong and an absolute warrior. Kyle you are everything a good caretaker and husband should be. You are her rock in every way and also for your beautiful children as well. I truly can’t imagine what it would be like if have to tell my children this. I feel like I’m losing a good friend. I’m sending you all so much love and will be praying for you guys too.
My Mom left me a book that answered all of the questions I never thought to ask. Her favorite color, food, songs, etc. There are some wonderful journals that ask questions like those that would be so great for your kiddos down the road. Help them to know you as adults. They will crave that.
I’m am so sorry you had to live this day, but you are doing it with grace, love, and absolute honesty. I guarantee you are changing lives daily too by helping complete strangers understand what’s really important. I will continue to pray for you and your family. God Bless.
I love this. ❤❤❤
I have one that my mom and I filled out together I cherish it! We never got to fully finish it but for as far as we got int it….I’m grateful for it. So I got one for me and my kiddos! I want to be sure that they have something like that to look back at…to always be able to remember things about their mama and the things I did growing up and the things we did together!
What a wonderful idea!
It is a legacy package. My friend did one for her girls. There are people that help put these together and think of things that you don't.
What a fabulous idea!
When my friends husband got told he had months to live him his wife and their 3 children made a memory area in the garden. The children loved doing this and asked dad what he’d like and they all designed it together. When he passed they planted an apple tree and scattered his ashes. There’s 2 benches and fairy lights, it’s so pretty and somewhere for the children to go when they are feeling down.
I am so sorry and sad for you guys. I want you to know l am praying for you all. You are such strong and amazing people and it seems your children are as well. Ellis is right, there are miracles and l will continue to pray for one. God bless all of you! 😊❤🙏
That was such an awesome thing for them together
Having worked as a home hospice nurse I think despite how difficult it may be, please remember hospice isn’t about giving up, it’s deciding how to spend the time you have left. I’m so sorry 😞
She would have to give up all treatments to be on hospice. They mentioned proton therapy. I, too, worked with hospice (as a volunteer and patient caregiver). Not sure they are ready then but maybe soon.
I had hospice for my mother, they are wonderful.
I'm a hospice nurse and where I am you don't need to give up all treatments to be on hospice just that you are nearing the end although most people aren't doing any crazy life saving treatments it's not a requirement to stop treatment.
This! I’m a home hospice nurse myself.
I don’t know if this sounds somewhat weird, but I feel strangely privileged to share this with you both. And yes I hate cancer. We’re all praying for a miracle, because they certainly happen. As uncle Michael proved! And if no miracle comes, then your sweet little children will have been SO well prepared. I feel you’re doing everything right. You just couldn’t do any better, you’re so wise. Tons and tons of ❤️ ❤❤❤
I just wanna say my aunt was told she was dying of cancer and had 6 months to live, and she has been living since for 10 years. Never give up! ❤
same my grandma had 6-9 months and lived 11 years
You can't control when you die 😢 but we are all gonna die someday it's not a scary thing
@@allyhanson4866It is darn scary when you leave such a young family behind. Meanwhile, good on you! You must have no young children who will be severely effected by your death...or you are already a senior and lived a full life.
@@SunshineSparkle2000 no I wouldn't leave my son behind I gonna live for him and live for a long time just was in a bad mood no excuse tho I need to live for him your right and I apologize
@@allyhanson4866 please do not apologize to me. It this very young couple, specifically Kyle (who requested advisement in this video), which you owe an apology... not me. Your comment was extremely unempathtic and deliberately hurtful.
You built a community of followers who are emotionally invested in your family. That will not change when you have gone to sleep. If kyle keeps this going we will be right beside him and the kids. All of us will be the extended family who cheer the kids on through all of their milestones. We will be a friend to Kyle. We will encourge him, support him and be an ear when he needs to talk or vent or cry. We will not leave your beautiful family. We will support them as we have strived to support you Jenny. We will be here for as long as needed. We love you and we love your family.
Amen! So well said, and I completely agree! They are my family, that’s how I see it. I have never cried so many tears (especially since I usually don’t cry easily) or grown so emotionally attached to people I technically “don’t know” via RUclips videos. People talk a lot these days about para-social relationships, but this feels so different. I genuinely love and care about this family like they were my own.
It’s difficult to describe, but it feels like there is a spiritual element to it. Like God has gathered this community together to help support this family through it all, knowing this community would be greatly needed. He knew what this journey would entail, and wanted this incredible family surrounded by as much love, faith, support and prayers as possible. I’d say that was a success.
I’m certainly not going anywhere. I will forever remain part of this community. While I do hope Kyle continues making videos, I understand if he doesn’t. That said, my support and prayers for their family will never go away, even if Kyle doesn’t continue with the videos. I’m here to stay, and will support in ANY way that is needed at ANY time. We all will. 💕🙏🏻✝️🌻
What a lovely thing to write
I was thinking of you talking about the miscarriage. Then I remembered reading, (can't remember where) about all that have lost their baby will be reunited and you will love and nurture that baby throughout eternity. I feel calm in knowing you will be mothering in heaven.
Amen! Thank you for saying what I couldn't.
Praying daily for a miracle -I am so sorry…
You two are so strong and really positive. My mom was a hospice nurse. The little ones could benefit from a child psychologist to talk to. I’m so attached to the two of you. Love you all!!
@@humansponge. Please tell us what type of cancer you have how long did it take to metastasize? Is it a small cell or non-small cell and all the things that you’re going through for people like me that just found out we love you we hope the Jesus Christ comes before all of us dies, and I will pray for you.
@@godschild3640PLEASE STOP DRILLING PEOPLE!!! NOT YOUR CONCERN!!
@@humansponge And it’s worrying that Winnie asked if she could die with her. Poor little angels
I just cried through this whole video. Life can be so hard sometimes. As so many others have said, I have followed your whole journey, starting just after my daughter was diagnosed with cancer, and I feel like you are dear friends. Please know that you are being prayed for on a daily basis and often many times a day. Now I will pray especially for your sweet babies and Kyle, too, of course. They WILL be okay with Kyle as their daddy. You will leave them with so many precious memories. That said, I, like Ellis, am praying to the end for a miracle!!❤️❤️❤️❤️🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Me too. I believe in miracles.
God still gives us miracles! God is good! You are so brave. Praying for you all!
I cried when they started telling about telling the children. It tore me up 🥺
I kept it together until I saw the beautiful children. God bless you all.
My heart started racing seeing this. I’m still in disbelief from your last video, and am just so sad and heartbroken. You’re both so very brave and strong, and are handling this with such grace. Sending prayers, love and hugs. My father-in-law beat lung cancer and my mother colon cancer stage 3, so I’m staying positive, and will only think positive thoughts. We love you both, and will keep your babies close to our hearts🙏🏻❤🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻❤️
I'm a realist and believe in science. I ALSO BELIEVE IN GOD AND KNOW HE CAN HEAL ANYONE. HE CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS!!! KEEP TALKING TO YOUR HEAVENLY FATHER. HE KNOWS YOU. HE LOVES YOU❤
I had to get spinal taps every other day for several months. And trust me, lay still. Spinal headaches are very painful. God bless you all, prayers
Your bravery and kindness/compassion as parents is wonderful…to tenderly tell your children the hardest news of their lives must have been devastating. My prayers for their hearts, and for you both as you travel this journey. 💙🩵💚
You're such great parents and I can't imagine how hard it was for you both. You're babies are gifts from God and he will always be with them. I'm praying hard for you and your family and friends. I know he does make miracles happen. God Bless you Jenny, Kyle, Ellis and Winnie ❤🙏❤️
Jenny and Kyle, also please tell your kids that there is always hope. And miracles do happen. We will pray for that and for a new treatment to make that happen.
Jenny & Kyle. You are bravest, most loving parents! Telling your children about your dying I am sure is the MOST heartwrenching experience through this whole ordeal. My love to you both & to Ellis & Winnie.
I've been a silent watcher for more than a year. Thank you for being such open, loving people. Your children are in good hands. And thank you for allowing me (us) the privilege of praying for all of you. It is an honor to be able to lift you up in prayer, to ask God to keep you in his hands, and to ask that his angels surround you and your family, giving you comfort and His everlasting love.
Amen. I feel the same way, it is such an honor and privilege to lift Kyle, Jenny, Ellis and Winnie our the Lord in prayer. I stand in agreement with you and all who are fervently praying for this precious family.
Amen!
Heartbreaking.
So very heartbreaking.
Amen
I've just stumbled upon your channel. Battled cancer for 22 years myself, originally diagnosed age 22. The way you both are able to articulate all that you are going through and use this journey to educate, inform and help others and the strength you have for your children is nothing short of incredible and inspiring. Thank you for sharing this journey and I pray that the time you have left is filled with as little pain as possible and as much happiness as possible. What wonderful people you are ❤
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Amen
Same as my mom she had stage 4 cancer and she died
You are both so amazing. My heart breaks for you. God bless you and your beautiful kids🙏🏻!
Guys, I don’t even know what to say. I can’t believe it, really. Jenny, you were supposed to be the one who survived. It wasn’t supposed to end this way. I’m still going to pray for a miracle for you. Please don’t stop fighting. ❤
I'm thinking the same thing. I feel so sorry for you both. I don't mean to sound depressing. Just that my heart is breaking for you both, and for your children. I'm not sure what to say about it. Everyone keeps telling you two to stay strong. Anything I say, won't really make any kind of difference. Hold onto the good memories and treasure them. Hold those memories close to your heart. You may not have long left, but you have each other. 🌷
I’m praying for a miracle for you both. In faith and Jesus name.
@@catherinegrace2366sometimes miracles don’t happen.
@@nancyfarkas3592clearly that is implied. No need for the lack of positivity. Keep hope in your heart
@@nancyfarkas3592loopp0llun
Kids can feel the vibes. They know more than you think.
100% true.
Tears won't stop as I'm watching. You are so amazing and inspiring. My sweet son passed away from brain cancer, and 2 of my nephews lost their battle with lung cancer...all in 2021. My husband was diagnosed with stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer 5 months ago and was told that he will have to be on chemo and Lupron for the rest of his life. Only my faith and trust in God holds me together; and knowing that we will all be reunited for eternity, and our lives here on earth are but a breath in comparison. I love your beautiful family so much.
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OMG me too, I keep trying to stop my tears but they just keep rolling down my
cheeks.😢😢😢, So sad,,I'm miracle
Intravenous Vitamin C, IVERMECTIN, FENBENDAZOLE, fasting. Do you think your husband would be fit enough to do these? Chemo is seriously hard on the body. As is radiation. Radiation killed my dad. All my aunts and uncles went very quickly after diagnosis. Please research.
What an amazng family you are! I wish you many good days ahead to enjoy each other to the fullest. ❤ Your family will remain in my heart forever. ❤️
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My aunt has fought stage 4 Cancer. Colon and lung.She was also told she had six months to live, and it's 7 years later and she is still kicking it. We thought on numerous occasions that she was not going to make it. She is Cancer free now for the last 8 months. She fought for 7 years. She has had such relentless positivity. Don't let a doctor tell you when you are going to die. They don't know. When you are meant to go, you will. Please keep fighting. Don't give up !❤
My grandmother had colon cancer and was told she had 1 year to live. She was 70 when she was told that.
She ended up living until she was 93 and a heart attack is what took her.
I hope this lovely young lady has many years to come and can spend time with her family. I hate that this happens to people.
WOW, Candice Johnstone, that is incredible to hear!! I am praying hard for Jenny and her Family to have the same experience❤
That is so true. Doctors are not infallible. Miracles happen every day. My uncle had lymphoma and was told he had 6 mos to live by a reputable hospital in Chicago. He lived for 35 more years. God grants us blessings every day.
@@The-CoffeeMananother MIRACLE. Tell Ellis and Winnie to pray hard. God won’t ignore 2 Children’s prayers.
Agree completely my Dad was told he been dead in 1999 but he's still with us
But he did have a lung transplant.
Lung cancer.please keep the faith
I pray you make it and your going to be ok miracle's happen Jennifer 🌹💓
My heart is breaking for you all. I’ve recently been diagnosed with cancer & have the fear of leaving this life early. I’m a mum to 3 young boys. It’s every parents worst nightmare to go before their children. What brings me comfort is to know that they have a wonderful father & that everything we have built around us will go on. Sending love ❤️
I’ll add you to my prayers & ask for complete healing. The path before you must be filled with a lot of uncertainty. I myself and I’m sure others would love to share information to possibly help - things others have done to cure themselves. But it will be deleted as usual. I’ve tried to share it with Kyle & Jenny - but YT deletes it within mins of posting. One is a man who cured the exact same cancer she has and is alive today after given just months to live. He can be found if searched for.
Don’t be afraid to step out of your box to at least learn what others have done to help themselves when the medical profession has given up. Some have used ‘repurposed’ medicine while detoxing at the same time. Even just posting their name is flagged & deleted.
I do know absolutely without doubt, where I’ll go when I take my last breath. And it will be far greater than anything I experienced here on earth. Have you heard of NDE’s? My father had it happen to him when a 70ft house trailer fell on him. He physically died under that trailer, but his soul/spirit was sent back. His story is amazing. He went to heaven. Only the Lord knows why he was returned. I’ve read hundreds of stories about this and it’s given me great peace about it all. I believe that if we get past our fears of death, we can begin to see more clearly. But I do know if you first put EVERYTHING in the hands of Jesus, all else will come easier. ❤
lung cancer? :(
I just prayed for you.
Actually the worst nightmare is when kids die before parents. Not the other way round
“The scientists discovered, through trial and error, a product in their canine product line, fenbendazole, that was batting 1.000 in killing these different cancers in the mice. The scientist was later diagnosed with stage 4 brain cancer and was given a grim prognosis of only three months to live. She decided to try the fenbendazole, and after six weeks, showed a clean scan.
Joe Tippens had been initially diagnosed with small cell lung cancer. The cancer later spread to his neck, right lung, stomach, liver, bladder, pancreas and tail bone. Like the scientist from Merk Animal Hospital, Joe was told he only had three months to live. In 2017, after hearing the story of the scientist who treated her cancer with a canine drug, Joe decided he was going to do the same.”
Let’s see if this stays up. Please check out this info ❤
Awe Jenny, only got 3 1/2 months. I’m so sad you’re gone. But Kyle is doing an amazing job! ❤️
When you guys were talking about the kitchen and said "They tried their best what do you think?" I weirdly got emotional because this is a clear example of the type of people you both are. Even when explaining that things in the house are falling apart and hodgepodge you're still the kindest souls -. Sending you prayers for comfort from Toronto Canada xoxo ❤❤❤
YOU'RE ALL LOVED, CARED ABOUT & PRAYED FOR BY SO MANY OF US.🙏🏻
Re-watching just to see and hear Jenny. How can i miss someone i didnt even personally know. I believe in my soul Jenny is so proud of how you are doing with your babies Kyle. Prayers ❤
Me to hun❤
I just found their channel… I never watched them in real time. I wish I had known her when she was alive, she just seems like the purest soul 😢
I was given 6-9 months ,two years ago,,
Granted I was given a new therapy at 3 months .
I am praying for you beautiful people ,that a similar thing happens for you.
One time I met a man
Who only had a month to live
And I asked him if he had
Any advice that he could give
He said “I wake each morning
Knowing I am going to die
So each day must remind me
I am blessed to be alive
You see, my life’s on countdown
As each hour is unfurled
I know the clock is ticking
On my time here in this world
But what you’re overlooking
Is that it’s the same for you -
You know that I am dying
But forget that you are too
So make the most of sunshine
And go dancing in the rain
And sing a little louder
When your favourite music plays
Notice nature’s colours,
Savour everything you taste
Stop waiting for tomorrow
‘Cause you’ve got no time to waste
And could you say convincingly
That you’d have no regrets?
If just the next few days or weeks
Were all that you had left?”
And then my breath caught quickly
When he turned to me and asked
“Could you say that you died happy
If this day had been your last?”
Becky Hemsley
This poem is so beautiful. I wept tears of joyful sorrow and exhilarating hope. Life affirming reflecting the resilience of the human spirit. Peace out x
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Wow beautifuly said
Wow
I love words & these are wonderful.
Your honesty is priceless! I have no other words, what is there to say…?! What I know is that there is power in prayer and hope is everything! Love you guys.
Agree! 🙏🏻
You're helping SO MANY to navigate this process with their family and loved ones. How courageous of you.
Jenny and Kyle, you are selflessly and generously helping millions of others who will be in your position in the future. The stark honesty shown from both your perspectives is invaluable. Thank you. Sending love and prayers to you and the children.
Agreed, completely. She will always have a living legacy of destigmatizing the topic of death. It really should be talked about more, in an honest way that allows everyone to feel and process and grow. I'm in awe at her and Kyle's brave leadership, for not just their family, but for all of us when it comes to dealing with the painful aspects of living (and dying).
It’s strange to me to hear how explicit you’ve been explaining to the kids. My dad died when I was 4 and know one told me. They didn’t take me to his funeral but I remember going to my grandmother’s house and seeing her cry but I wasn’t sure why. Then my brother died 10 months later and I gradually realized dying meant you go away and never come back home. So then I was terrified my mom would die. It turned me into a fearful child and left my heart full of holes. This is hard on them but at least they’ll know that they were important enough to tell them and help them with their feelings. You are very brave. Amazing 😔
My son was 3 when a good friend's mum passed away. We told him and to help, she was now a star in the sky looking down on him. Then Grandma Dot came back to lie in " state". I can't remember 25 years later how we explained it but then for a 3rd time, she reappeared in an open coffin at the funeral. I know it was hard trying to explain it all especially after the initial explanation to a very young child.
I’m so sorry to hear that you had to tell the kids. I’m still praying for a miracle.
Amen
Amen ☁️🎺👼💒🙏🌹✨
Me too......me too! I know miracles do happen because I've seen them.
Amen
Amen 🙏
I lost my gf of 14 years on April 14. She was only 39. I remember the day the doctors told she only had 3 months to live. As much as it devastated me, it hurt even more watching her say it. Just remember as long as you have air in ur lungs there’s hope. I’d suggest putting your trust in God.
I'm so deeply sorry
Its weird but they don’t mention God it’s sad 😢
Sorry for your loss 😞
I had a pastor when I lived in California his name is Ed and he got diagnosed with leukemia and the church kept praying for him and he was healed
My tears are flowing 😢I don’t know how you both are getting through this. I’ll never understand why bad things happen to such good people. Like I said before this makes me mad. You guys are such wonderful parents and your babies are blessed to have you. Jenny, they will always have you in their hearts 💕 I can’t imagine how you can even smile. You both are so strong,I admire you both. I feel so ashamed of myself for all of my faults , failures and shortcomings. You both have encouraged me to be a better person and to show kindness to others. Thank you for letting me follow your journey. I’ll pray day and night for you and your beautiful loving family! I’ve loved your babies from day one ❤
I am very sed and I think that you are strong and very strong 😢I prey for you and all of you ❤
I think the hardest question in life is why hard and painful times happen to good people. Or why some people go through one hard time and storm after another, and others seem to go through life with nothing bad. There’s no real answer for those questions. Though it is possible to find the joy and comfort during those hard times. The imperfect world is full of hurt of all kinds. Just know that you are never alone.
I had to have The Talk with my boys (9 and 12 then) that their mom had 0% chance of living for 5 years, because of the cancer that had been found by accident during surgery. Probably the hardest, most gut-wrenching thing I’ve ever had to do. You want to protect them, and not cause them any pain. But you did exactly the right thing, and in exactly the right way! And, 30 years later, my wife is still with us! Doctors are smart, but they don’t know everything.
May God bless you and your family always. I'm happy that God had the last saying.❤
This is why it's probably better not to burden or traumatize the kids with that if it's not undeniable and immediately impending
I believe God has the final say
@@jriverar1436 God or whatever anyone believes in after this life has nothing to do with who lives or dies from cancer or any other illness. It suggests some people are more worthy and chosen to live, whereas others are allowed to die.
No. It does nor suggest that. It suggests that for everyone, there is an appointed time.
And is is beyond our limited, human understanding. But not to the Lord, for all things work out by His divine plan.
And His love is beyond our comprehension. This life is an instant, for ALL, then there is forever.
I am just a puddle of tears. Your both were just so strong in this video and in having this heartbreaking conversation with those two beautiful children. Prayers for you all