I love how these videos give you different things to try in different scenarios. If you only have a duplicator available and not a code cutter you can save the day with this method in emergency
Great info. I've used these methods before myself. One thing that I've found helps with alignment is to use a steel wire to help with groove alignment, and clamp that into the key machine. You'll need to use the same wire on the key blank being duplicated to account for any angle added by the wire. It helps keep things on the proper plane. Thanks for showing us how to get to #Lockboss level!
Sounds like everybody has a lot of good ideas. This is what makes this community so great. Everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge. Always helping those of us learning. Thanks PJ for another great video and everyone else for sharing. #Lockboss
You could put key part(s) in Framon II machine (power OFF) and take some accurate readings of cut depths in reference to some high cut or uncut part and do some math to arrive at as many depth codes as possible. Perhaps easier than trying to use calipers; anyway just a thought here.
Great information. Most of the broken keys customers have brought me, they're already tried tape or glue so it's an extra few minutes cleaning them up before trying to piece them back together. I had one customer that tried soldiering the pieces back together...that was fun. #Lockboss.
Another way that I've done it is by making a clay impression Is and making a temporary key That I can then use the duplicator and make a new key from. Sometimes you have to use a little bit of imagination when You don't wanna lose a job
A problem I as a #Lockboss have run across numerous times. You did it pretty much the same as I have done. Only other way I've tried was when I've had a Code Machine handy. In that case I just Decode the Key then cut a fresh one by Code. Another Educational Video PJ. Thank You.
🌵🇨🇦 one of the first ones I did was a Range Rover that had a crappy deep cut right at the start. After I fished it out of his door, I did manage to make a good duplicate, then he had me make 9 more duplicates for him, because it was not the first one he broke. #Lockboss 🇨🇦🌵
Thanks for the information like always PJ and CLK Supplies team. Have not yet had to duplicate a broken Key yet but feel confident now to do it with your pointers. #Lockboss
I have been lucky so far and not had a key that has been broken in the biting. And greatly appreciated your explanation of how to duplicate a broken key for when it does happen. Thanks again! # lock boss
Great information and visuals. the overhead camera worked really well. Nice production work on the video Connor. PJ you have become a natural doing these videos. #Lockboss comments are well worth the read, so many knowledgeable people sharing their experiences, The video combined with the comments give you a complete picture of the solutions that could be used. As someone without a key machine or lishi cutter, I would hand file or cast to make the new key. Thanks for this video, cheers
Thank you for these types of videos where you discuss real world scenarios. Just getting started in the trade working towards being a #lockboss! Incredibly rewarding!
46yrs in the business is no joke, you've been locksmith longer than I've been alive!!! Im sure you've forgot more than I know🙌 and I think that is awesome! Thanks for the comment -PJ
Probably a good idea for someone with a Lock Shop, but as a mobile locksmith, I find it better to site read, or just generate from scratch and utilize the broken key for a reference. #Lockboss
Could you imagine trying to #lockboss that 30 years ago without the benefit of computerized code lookup and database tricks that make it easy to decode as much of the key as you can and get the rest of the cuts to make a good key again?
So... why not just measure the cuts and cut a new key? The fastest scenario is if you can tip stop the broken key and just dupe it (like your first example) but if not, I think measuring and cutting on a code machine would turn out the most accurate copy with no margin of error. #lockboss
Excellent video PJ, looks like it might take me some practice to get right, but definitely seems like an invaluable skill for any #lockboss. As always thanks for great video.
Good practical video, PJ! Gotta love it when they bring the key in pieces! The last one I did was easy - factory SC1 with the bitting on the bow! LOL #AccessLockKeyLLC #HaulinBrass #LockBoss
#Lockboss Very cool PJ, love seeing different tricks of the trade to help us learn more, but also love hearing the other ideas that the conversation sparks. Great community we have here 👍🏻
Great video, we have ran into this before, and it works just like you showed. I’ve been lucky so far with the break before the cuts. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
When doing this all I can say is patience. You can not duplicate it like a normal key it will kick it took me about 15-20 different keys to really get good at it. We also had a guy that could just look at a key and he would go to the code max and just cut it by code. I'm not that skilled though 🤣 #Locksboss
Great video PJ! I agree with Bobby Kendrick, the #Lockboss community is very helpful!! PJ is getting more advanced with the camera setups. Suggestion if possible, put the camera up higher and zoom in more so the normal camera view doesn't block you. #Lockboss
For broken car keys I always decode the entire key and cut by code. Keys generally snap for a reason and most times it's a worn clicky key that doesn't easily turn. A code cut key stops the issue happening again.
Thanks for the information PJ. Could another way to get the key code if the vehicle is present to use a lishi tool on the lock? I’m new to Locksmithing so I’m curious about that. #lockboss
I never thought a broken key could be duplicated unless you had the code. Learned from the video and comments. #lockboss Question can we submit ideas on topics we'd like to see you and your staff cover?
I had to figure this out on my own. It would have been nice to have this explanation. Great video, but you don’t show how to gauge the key in the machine. Some poor soul is probably trying to figure out why his key doesn’t look right, but then again that wouldn’t make them a #lockboss
I solder mine with letcon, went to duplicate, but fk if the new one works, tryed my file on it 3-5 times it’s not a car key but a outside door don’t know what the guy did rong because it looks almost exact but the solder one works & the brand new one doesen’t work even if it goes all the way in the key hole
I love how these videos give you different things to try in different scenarios. If you only have a duplicator available and not a code cutter you can save the day with this method in emergency
Thanks, glad you found it useful-PJ
Thank you. I'm a mail carrier who started a new route and broke a key day 1. I think I'm good after watching this. Thank you. For real
Great info. I've used these methods before myself. One thing that I've found helps with alignment is to use a steel wire to help with groove alignment, and clamp that into the key machine. You'll need to use the same wire on the key blank being duplicated to account for any angle added by the wire. It helps keep things on the proper plane. Thanks for showing us how to get to #Lockboss level!
Absolutely, thanks for sharing-PJ
Sounds like everybody has a lot of good ideas. This is what makes this community so great. Everyone sharing their experiences and knowledge. Always helping those of us learning. Thanks PJ for another great video and everyone else for sharing.
#Lockboss
Yes! Me too, I love everyone sharing-PJ
You could put key part(s) in Framon II machine (power OFF) and take some accurate readings of cut depths in reference to some high cut or uncut part and do some math to arrive at as many depth codes as possible. Perhaps easier than trying to use calipers; anyway just a thought here.
Ken!Yes, I like your thinking!-PJ
Line them up and duplicate Job done
I came across this problem last week and really couldn't help because I didn't know what you have shown on this video thank you #lockboss
Can’t get enough of these videos. New knowledge makes me a better #LockBoss
Great information. Most of the broken keys customers have brought me, they're already tried tape or glue so it's an extra few minutes cleaning them up before trying to piece them back together. I had one customer that tried soldiering the pieces back together...that was fun. #Lockboss.
Wow! Crazy things-Pj
@@clksupplies the creative fixes of rural folk. I've seen more that one drive shaft with bailing wire in place of a u-joint.
That’s what I did but the solder one works the dublicated one not
Another way that I've done it is by making a clay impression Is and making a temporary key That I can then use the duplicator and make a new key from. Sometimes you have to use a little bit of imagination when You don't wanna lose a job
Wow! That's amazing 👏-PJ
A problem I as a #Lockboss have run across numerous times. You did it pretty much the same as I have done. Only other way I've tried was when I've had a Code Machine handy. In that case I just Decode the Key then cut a fresh one by Code. Another Educational Video PJ. Thank You.
Yes ! 💯 agree-PJ
I really appreciate how you are always trying to help others to be a #Lockboss at our jobs of helping our customers!! Thanks PJ!!
Thanks, glad you liked it and honestly hope that the info can be helpful is some way or another-PJ
🌵🇨🇦 one of the first ones I did was a Range Rover that had a crappy deep cut right at the start. After I fished it out of his door, I did manage to make a good duplicate, then he had me make 9 more duplicates for him, because it was not the first one he broke. #Lockboss 🇨🇦🌵
Oh wow! Way to go with the extra dups-PJ
Great well done you just use the key machine jaws. #lockboss nice work PJ Ed Fugate
Thanks for the information like always PJ and CLK Supplies team. Have not yet had to duplicate a broken Key yet but feel confident now to do it with your pointers. #Lockboss
Awesome-PJ
I've done this with good luck on other types of keys too great info and video.
Good demo on duplicating a broken key which is definitely something every locksmith should know how to do. #Lockboss
I have been lucky so far and not had a key that has been broken in the biting. And greatly appreciated your explanation of how to duplicate a broken key for when it does happen. Thanks again! # lock boss
Great information and visuals. the overhead camera worked really well. Nice production work on the video Connor. PJ you have become a natural doing these videos. #Lockboss comments are well worth the read, so many knowledgeable people sharing their experiences, The video combined with the comments give you a complete picture of the solutions that could be used. As someone without a key machine or lishi cutter, I would hand file or cast to make the new key. Thanks for this video, cheers
💯 agree!-PJ
Thank you for these types of videos where you discuss real world scenarios. Just getting started in the trade working towards being a #lockboss! Incredibly rewarding!
Awesome, glad you are liking the trade-PJ
Thanks for the video on fixing broken keys. James estep locksmith n cold snowy Tennessee. #lockboss#lockboss
Excellent work with your jigsaw puzzle PJ. And kudos to Connor for the Zelda background music. #Lockboss
I never dup broken keys as I decode all cuts by eyesight and code cut it, as I only have 46 years doing this
46yrs in the business is no joke, you've been locksmith longer than I've been alive!!! Im sure you've forgot more than I know🙌 and I think that is awesome! Thanks for the comment -PJ
Duplicated a couple B111 keys that were broken in half, and they worked! I really like this method though. Shows some true craftsmanship!
#Lockboss
Nice-PJ
Thanks PJ for showing some various scenarios in these instances! #lockboss
Always good info from PJ and CLK Supplies #Lockboss
These are some #lockBOSS solutions to some pretty common problems
This #lockboss doesn't do auto keys, but might come in handy sometime :)
Probably a good idea for someone with a Lock Shop, but as a mobile locksmith, I find it better to site read, or just generate from scratch and utilize the broken key for a reference. #Lockboss
Heck yeah!-PJ
Learn something this morning PJ about a broken key 🔑! #LockBoss
Great info my friend. #Lockboss
Could you imagine trying to #lockboss that 30 years ago without the benefit of computerized code lookup and database tricks that make it easy to decode as much of the key as you can and get the rest of the cuts to make a good key again?
So true-PJ
Thanks PJ. #lockboss
I am going to give it a try with my old FOLEY BELSAW 200 key machine, another helpful video thank you PJ #Lockboss
Good truck!! Thanks for sharing PJ # LOCKBOSS
That's cool and very helpful #lockboss
I have under cut the break area and then file to the next depth or use a space and depth key to figure out the cut. #lockboss
Great tips here for any automotive #lockboss PJ, thank you for sharing this!
Excellent demo! I also like the added fanfare at 0:14 🤣 #LockBoss
🤣-PJ
Good stuff as always #lockboss
I have been through this many times. It's usually because of a deep cut next to the bow. #Lockboss.
💯-PJ
So... why not just measure the cuts and cut a new key? The fastest scenario is if you can tip stop the broken key and just dupe it (like your first example) but if not, I think measuring and cutting on a code machine would turn out the most accurate copy with no margin of error. #lockboss
That is a good point!-PJ
But in case of an emergency and all u have is a duplicator on hand, this will save the day. I like how these videos show different situations
Excellent video PJ, looks like it might take me some practice to get right, but definitely seems like an invaluable skill for any #lockboss. As always thanks for great video.
Keep these great videos coming! #Lockboss
Great tips and big solution for the customers #Lockboss
Good practical video, PJ! Gotta love it when they bring the key in pieces! The last one I did was easy - factory SC1 with the bitting on the bow! LOL #AccessLockKeyLLC #HaulinBrass #LockBoss
That's pretty neat! #lockboss
#Lockboss Very cool PJ, love seeing different tricks of the trade to help us learn more, but also love hearing the other ideas that the conversation sparks. Great community we have here 👍🏻
💯 me too-PJ
I want to give a personal shoutout to the editor who used the Final Fantasy 7 Fan Fare Music ❤
Haha, that would be Connor! I have no idea that that is! 😢-PJ
@@clksupplies Its a video game from the 90s, great stuff! But more importantly, great video!
@@lockjawmfg haha got it, I was more of a ps1 madden guy!-PJ
Great video, we have ran into this before, and it works just like you showed. I’ve been lucky so far with the break before the cuts. Thanks for the video. #Lockboss
Those are nice!-PJ
If it is straight enough ive had the best luck just clamping the pieces in the duplicator clamp and cutting it #Lockboss
Great Tips! Thanks again PJ! #Lockboss
Great information. This helps me to better help customers. #Lockboss
I got a lot of broken keys out of cylinders. So far I have gotten everyone out.
Another good informational video. Thanks PJ. #LockBoss
When doing this all I can say is patience. You can not duplicate it like a normal key it will kick it took me about 15-20 different keys to really get good at it. We also had a guy that could just look at a key and he would go to the code max and just cut it by code. I'm not that skilled though 🤣 #Locksboss
Great video PJ! I agree with Bobby Kendrick, the #Lockboss community is very helpful!! PJ is getting more advanced with the camera setups. Suggestion if possible, put the camera up higher and zoom in more so the normal camera view doesn't block you. #Lockboss
For broken car keys I always decode the entire key and cut by code. Keys generally snap for a reason and most times it's a worn clicky key that doesn't easily turn. A code cut key stops the issue happening again.
Great information thank you PJ #Lockboss
Great info, thanks PJ! #Lockboss
Great information definitely going to come in handy in the winter months #Lockboss
PJ: we just had not 1 but 2 holidays and you are already talking about a break. :) #lockboss
Haha, what you talking about?-PJ
Great #Lockboss tips
Have a great day
Good information!
#Lockboss
🐈🐾🐈⬛🐾🇺🇸
Great information, thanks PJ. #LOCKBOSS
Best tip from PJ go slow but he cuts keys on a Flash #Lockboss
Lol ask
I need glasses like PJ my comment said in a Flash but wanted to say on a Flash had to edit@@clksupplies
3D printer, Polymer Clay, empty soup can, long pliers, 10 pennies, torch, Dremel and sand paper.
Thanks for the info #Lockboss
Thanks for the information PJ. Could another way to get the key code if the vehicle is present to use a lishi tool on the lock? I’m new to Locksmithing so I’m curious about that. #lockboss
💯 you could do that, In the vid I was trying to show the most basic options available-PJ
Thanks for the great video. #Lockboss
Very useful info #LockBoss
Excellent video #lockboss
I never thought a broken key could be duplicated unless you had the code. Learned from the video and comments. #lockboss
Question can we submit ideas on topics we'd like to see you and your staff cover?
Absolutely, you can just comment here or email us at sales@clksupplies.com-PJ
Awesome...thank you.
Great video. # lockboss
Great video
#lock boss
Easy to do. #lockboss
Lot's Of Good Ideas . #lockboss
Came here cuz my key broke just like this.
fucking MAD respect for the final fantasy VII victory theme
I’ve. Done that for years. #lockboss
I had to figure this out on my own. It would have been nice to have this explanation. Great video, but you don’t show how to gauge the key in the machine. Some poor soul is probably trying to figure out why his key doesn’t look right, but then again that wouldn’t make them a #lockboss
Haha-PJ
Man down…Broken arrow #Lockboss
I solder mine with letcon, went to duplicate, but fk if the new one works, tryed my file on it 3-5 times it’s not a car key but a outside door don’t know what the guy did rong because it looks almost exact but the solder one works & the brand new one doesen’t work even if it goes all the way in the key hole
I get a lot of broken keys and never filed to duplicate it #lockboss
🙌-PJ
I have had about 10 I the past month 1 I had to hand file to get it to work #lockboss
Nice-PJ
If you know how to control your duplicator you can skip the little divit #lockboss
Haha, yes true. I wanted to keep it in though, it happens.-PJ
🙂
Good ideas in the video and comments from some #Lockboss
💯, the comments are great-PJ
Decode and code cut if you have the ability to do so, otherwise you're just giving them a new worn key. #lockboss
Good point!-PJ
The #lockboss
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Automotive #lockboss
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If it was all easy everyone would be doing it….#LockBoss
💯-PJ
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