10 Times Star Trek Broke The Fourth Wall
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Whoever wrote this has no idea what "breaking the fourth wall" actually means.
I was going to post the exact same comment. These are not 4th wall breaks they're self references if anything.
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking. I'm halfway through the video, scrolling through the comments to see if anyone else is thinking the same thing, and apart from Picard looking at the camera there's nothing else?!
Not even McCoy in Journey to Babel ?
seems like it was put together hastily
@@tomf3150 especially not McCoy! He's not even staring into the camera.
I would, personally, make a distinction between an Easter-egg and an outright 4th wall break.
But then they wouldn't have a list
Exactly!!
agreed
Yeah, by these standards I'd include the time Quark was asking people to try root beer and give their opinion. Funny, familiar, but not fourth wall breaking.
@@BeeWhistler It's insidious... just like the federation
'Fourth wall break...'
"You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means". ~Inigo Montoya, 'The Princess Bride'. 😉 🖖
They never broke the 4th wall, they just glanced in its general direction a few times.
tie knee earl /SoInconceivable
I was thinking the same thing. They need to watch a Deadpool movie, a Bugs Bunny cartoon or read a She-Hulk comic book.... this was embarrassing.
@@ultramaximusreviews BAHAHAHA!!!! Bugs Bunny! *GOOD ONE!*
Hahahaha 😅, good reference!
The Klingon ridges didn't begin with the Nex Generation (1987). They were first seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979).
I was looking for this 😃
you speak like someone who has done their homework, unlike TrekCulture who have done great work in past but really phoned this one in
True. Also now you have 69 likes.
Nice.
The ridges we know and love didnt happen until Search for Spock in 84, the ridges in TMP the Klingons looked like leather back turtle shell got slapped on to the actors heads.
@@JaredLS10 Still, they were ridges. That was my point.
ah, but in a meta way, "put on a red shirt" was prophetic never the less.
RIP Anton Yelchin... a lovely Checkov and an amazing Odd Thomas.
Surprised Q's "Trek through the stars" line from All Good Things didn't make it in. I mean, he was literally talking about the show ending in the final episode!!!
He also quotes the episode title in the next sentence.
YES! That’s what I thought 😂 was wondering why it wasn’t included
Because Trekculture is not perfect.
I remember him saying something about technobabble in a throwaway line
@@sarahkinsey5434 He said "Troi's pedantic psychobabble"
Nog is not an underrated character. He’s not overrated either. But he is a beloved character by almost all fans or trek.
His episode with Vic was amazing.
recent events have gone along way to ensure Nog is no longer an under rated character.
I agree. I do think Vic doesn't always get the recognition he deserves though.
*pally intensifies*
We make them sorry they ever set foot in the Alpha Quadrant.
I feel sorry for the Jem'hidar
Nog won me over when he recognized that his own father was not the ideal Ferengi but still had value as an engineer. He did not want to be his father, but he wanted to be like his father at the same time.
Quark looks directly in the camera and says Picard’s line from Star Trek First Contact, “The Line must be drawn here, this far and no further.”
I'll bet he didn't say "... right heah..."
@@rojoeditor No, but he did say "this fah, no fuh-thah!"
9:58 - Sela was NOT a clone, she was Tasha Yar's daughter.
Yeah, this channel is horrible about doing their homework.
@@brettcooper3893 They also said that the Klingons had ridges since TNG...though the movies were when the ridges first showed up
@@DaveCummings76 That was understandable as they might've meant "in the shows".
Too many script errors to count. But someone should.
Many videos purposely mess up information for audience interaction in the comments...like now. It's a trap they push in in time and time again.
I'm thinking TrekCulture has another term to look up. Breaking the Fourth Wall does not mean what you evidently think it means.
They are too busy labelling stuff "problematic"
@@OrinThomas Yes, that's the problem here. *rolls eyes*
(In case it's not clear; I don't agree with you.)
@@OrinThomas Could you elaborate on that? I seem to be living under a rock.
You missed one from DS9 (I don't recall which episode) where Quark looks into the camera and says, "War. What's it good for? Absolutely nothing."
Say it again!
@@countroshculla "War. What is it good for? Absolutely nothing."
He also gets the "This far, no further" remix
Good God, y'all.
Well, that's silly. Surely the correct answer is, "Profit."
“In the Pale Moon Light” is definitely a 4th wall break, though done in a very clever way. Sisko is speaking directly to the audience throughout the episode. Brilliantly done!
What always get me about RUclips videos that discuss "In the Pale Moonlight" is they always say "Two Murders". What about the guards? Garak said 4 guards? A pilot? but at a minimum there was two guards we saw. So at least 4 murders and logically up to 7.
Yea that was dope. I kinda wanted them to do more stuff like that.
Technically I think you'd this a 'framing device'
This is called "leaning on the fourth wall", it's not a fourth wall break.
Garak's "we can forget the whole enterprise" is a chilling fourth wall break.
hmm.... somehow I doubt that you can call an "Easteregg" which the USS Nog and the "I am a Doctor" quote are a 4th wall break...
I agree. More a tribute than a wall break.
@@samclark379 yeah... but i`ts still a fun list though
It's also not an easter egg. It's just a reference.
@@Heymrk well, potato patata
@@malte1984 Nope. More like potato/grapefruit.
You missed a big one, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" when threatened will jail for 200 years Kirk looks at the camera says something like "That's just about right".
Exactly! One of the best. But this young woman doesn't seem to like the original much, so that's probably why.
I’m amazed that you didn’t include the last scene from “Ship In A Bottle,” where Picard comments about Barclay’s miniature holodeck:
Barclay: “As far as Moriarty and the countess know, they're halfway to Meles II by now. This enhancement module contains enough active memory to provide them with experiences for a lifetime."
Picard: “They will live their lives and never know any difference."
Trio: “In a sense, you did give Moriarty what he wanted."
Picard: “In a sense. But who knows? Our reality may be very much like theirs. All this might just be an elaborate simulation running inside a little device sitting on someone's table."
(all leave, except Barclay, who apprehensively tests his environment...)
Barclay: “Computer, end program."
(Nothing happens, and Barclay smiles)
Show ends.
Ikr, I expecting this too.
I was very surprised this one didn’t make the list, with so many other references that aren’t really fourth wall breaking.
What if Barclay doesn't have access to that computer?
@@beauxr.benoit1374, the program ended two seconds later, did it not?
Yep. It was the _end_ of the _program._
I had heard about Denice Crosby waiving to the camera, but never caught it in the show. Thanks for including it.
Wait, she made sure the camera was coming with her?
TNG S06E12 Ship in a Bottle:
"In a sense, who knows? Our reality may be very much like theirs. All this might just be an elaborate simulation running inside a little device sitting on someone's table."
Thanks, i dont get it, how they could miss THE moment, when Picard admits "Its a TV program" well not strictly speaking but you get the point ...
Computer end program.
Welcome to enclosed flat earth Picard.
@@tomf3150 I wouldn't chance it.
On DS9 when Bashir teleports Keiko's fetus into Kira. The pregnant Kira says to Bashir "You did this to me." Which was a wink to their real life marriage and that Siddig was the one who got Visitor pregnant
Occasionally you can lean on the fourth wall (where what they are saying can be interpreted as addressing the audience, but also makes sense in the story - for example it will be revealed that the character is looking at a camera). An actor accidentally looking at the camera is not a fourth wall break. Light references to actor names are also not fourth wall breaks. Characters using known catchphrases is also not a fourth wall break. Fully outright breaking the fourth wall completely destroys the story unless it's a comedy. For example, Spaceballs can break the fourth wall all it wants without messing it up, because it's a comedy.
yeah, and (not sci-fi but...) Fran Drescher did that all the time in "The Nanny" probably partly because it did have a studio audience.
Beuller? Beuller? Beuller?
"It's not what it is, because I don't want it to be!"
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 Doesn't change the fact that these examples are not fourth wall breaks. They are, at best, leaning on the fourth wall, which is something different.
Anything with Garry Shandling in the 80s and 90s.
In STAR TREK 4 THE VOYAGE HOME Dr. McCoy said to the newly resurrected Spock "You really HAVE gone where no man has gone before" (meaning died and came back to life). That line "where no man has gone before" is from the NARRATION.
Do you forget your research? Klingons didnt change for TNG?! Klingons look like this since the motion picture in 1979!
Also how can you forget "Ship in the bottle" ?? THE MOMENT when Picard admits "Its all a TV show" well not literally, but you get the idea.
I don't think you know what "break the fourth wall" means...
I don't know this video knows what a fourth wall break is vs a reference...
My personal favorite isn't on this list. In TNG's series finale, "All Good Things", Q says to Picard, "It's time to put an end to your TREK through the stars...", but the way he pauses after 'trek' and gives a little half smile as he does so makes it obvious it's intended for the audience.
he should have said 'We'll meet again (in about 30 years....), Picard. The trial never ends"
I always thought McCoy was looking at Amanda. It doesn't appear he's looking into the camera.
I had that same thought. He certainly doesn't appear to be looking at the camera. If you're going to count that, you might as well include Scotty's "Where there'll be no tribble at all" in "The Trouble with Tribbles."
A huge fourth wall break that was overlooked was in the TNG episode "The Game." Picard says, "Go. Replicate what you need, and see that the devices are properly distributed." Then, turning to the camera and staring right at it, he says, "Not forgetting Mr Crusher," and he continues to stare at the camera until the scene ends.
In, First Contact, the doctor said, I'm a doctor, not a door stop.🤣
I loved the "This is a sickbay, not an arsenal" one. I miss the Doctor!!
@@TCTurner I hope they'll get Picardo back for the modern shows. The nice thing about his character is that he's a hologram and as such he could appear basically in any series that takes place chronologically after the Voyager, such as Picard or Discovery.
Obviously he aged quite a bit, but it could be explained away as Doctor altering his program to look more distinguished.
@@UltimatePerfection I think he'd be more suited to appear in Prodigy or Lower Decks. As good as they are in their own right, I feel his character is too lighthearted for the modern live action
I still think Picardo was the best part of Voyager, and sometimes would watch some of the show if I was flipping channels and his character was on screen.
Klingons with facial ridges have appeared that way since Star Trek: The Motion Picture.
Funny how Picard's last line in the TNG episode *Ship in a Bottle* is not on this list.
THANK YOU!
Yes! Insert Leo DiCaprio pointing meme here
10:08 There's another layer to Chekhov seeming reluctant to put on the red shirt. Supposedly, when Walter Koenig was first offered the role, someone said to him "Whatever you do, don't let them put you in a red shirt."
Zefram Cochran's line was classic
"unnecessarily sexy costumes"
does not compute
Ironically, Anton Yelchin was correct… what a sad way to go.
Ouch. Was not prepared.
He really did die in a somewhat-red-shirt manner. Such a pity, I really liked him. One of the few elements of the phony spectacle that is JJ Trek that I liked.
Lower Decks specifically talking about TOS deserves a mention.
You know, Those Old Scientists.
The wormhole in "The Price" led to the Delta, not Gamma Quadrant. That was how Janeway and Co. ended up finding the two Ferengi who bumbled through to try and foul up the negotiations and got stuck on the other side when the wormhole shifted position.
These are a vast stretch to be called 4th wall breaks. Seems to be confusion about what an Easter Egg is.
The Nog / Eisenberg Easter Egg is a sweet tribute.
You missed THE MOST OBVIOUS 4th WALL BREAK in Trek history - when told he would be locked up for 200 years by a USAF Colonel in the 1960s, Kirk looks directly at the camera and deadpans "That ought to be just about right."
YOU HAD ONE JOB, Trek Culture!!! ;) (Season 1, Episode 19 "Tomorrow Is Yesterday", 35 mins, 20 seconds into the episode)
One of my two TOS favorites. I do think McCoy breaks that fourth wall, in "Journey to Babel"! That. And "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" are two on my list of TOS favorites.
Merry Christmas, Happy Hanukkah, Happy Kwanzaa, and Happy New Year, everyone! Peace!✌
Kirk never said, “Beam me up, Scotty.” Accuracy is fundamental.
Just a quick correction. The Klingons have had their facial ridges since "Star Trek: The Motion Picture" in 1979, NOT "The Next Generation" in 1987.
Additionally, aside from Denise Crosby's wave goodbye, these are nothing but Easter Eggs.
I think Sulu's wink in "The Infinite Vulcan" counts as a fourth wall break, too.
As would have the lines from "Ship in a Bottle" if they had thought to include it.
In the Pale Moonlight I can get behind as a fourth-wall break, as Sisko is basically justifying his actions to himself, and by extension, the audience directly. It is definitely in the right ballpark.
The "I'm a doctor, not an xyz" is not even in the same galaxy. It's called a running joke.
I cant believe I have never noticed Tasha waving at the camera in Symbiosis! One thing does puzzle me though. After the cheeky wave Picard and Crusher get in a turbo lift and call for main bridge, leaving Tash in the cargo room looking quite busy. Moments later when Picard and Crusher walk onto the bridge, Tasha is at her post looking like she was there all the time. How did she get there so fast? Beamed in? Super Duper Turbo Lift?
The first contact? Breaking the credibility fourth wall there 🤣🤣🤣
The "Chekov redshirt" moment became far, far more poignant only a few years later, when Anton Yelchin died, leaving you the reader not knowing whether to laugh or groan at this moment.
Is Ellie Littlechild's real name Sean Ferrick because that is who is credited for presenting this list? 🤷
UPDATE = The editor and Ms Littlechild responded on Twitter. It was a shortsighted error.
Go look up Sean Ferrick on Twitter.
@@alonespirit9923 The TrekCulture staff responded on Twitter. Thanks.
Breaking the fourth wall. I don’t think that means what you think it means…
This list is a joke. Meta content ≠ Fourth wall break.
Missed a big one. In Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, there's the scene in the transporter room after the klingon delegation beams back to their ship, the whole bridge crew complains about the experience leaving Spock to stare perplexed into the camera before delivering his iconic raised eyebrow.
It is the biggest one imo
In a semi related way to the #1 entry, Q says something similar to Picard in the TNG series finale saying "your trek through the stars"
"Beam me up Scotty" was never uttered even once in the original Star Trek.
The closest is in Voyage Home, when Kirk thinks he’s saying goodbye to Gillian: “Scotty, beam me up.”
That's why she says it's apocryphal.
A fan tweeted Aaron Eisenberg to ask him if he'd do a cameo as Nog on the Picard series, Aaron said he'd love to. He went to the hospital and died within 24 hours. :'(
That wormhole that the Ferengi wanted access to lead to the Delta quadrant, not the Gamma quadrant.
You somehow included easter eggs, but not the scene where Picard laments that perhaps even he and his crew perhaps exist just inside a box on someone's desk. HOW?
(Episode would be "Ship in a Bottle")
That’s more a reference to simulation theory than a fourth wall break, I think.
They also forgot when Picard stares directly at the camera at the end of the cold opening of the TNG episode “Sarek”
(watches in shock) "Computer, what is a fourth wall? .... Computer? COMPUTER!!"
The thing about that First Contact line though... everyone laughed at it. I still think it's a genuinely funny line, especially when said by a drunk and clueless Zephram Cochrane. XD
I liked the Picardos doctor quips even better than McCoys honestly, basically because since he's a hologram he could practically use anything. I'm a doctor, not a database for instance. The irony being is he usually is the very thing he says he isn't as well to an extent.
I thought the 1st one about the Ferengi was gonna mention the Marauder Mo action figures in DS9.
When McCoy gets the last word, he’s not looking at the camera, he’s looking and talking to nurse Chappel
Your credits are broken, folks. Writer: Nick Edgeworth, Presenter: Sean Ferrick?
8:20 I always wondered how the "smooth" faced Klingons didn't recognize that Worf was "normal"
You forgot "Ship in a Bottle" from TNG. Picard giving a smile suggesting they too are inside a device on someone's table.
One of my favs from the TNG.
You know, Q was actually the first to talk about a "Trek through the stars." And it would make sense that a being as powerful as him, as omniscient as him, could see past the 4th wall to a degree.
and Cochrane with is "you're astronauts on some kind of star trek...". kind of stating the obvious exposition, but also a self-reference.
The "I'm a doctor" gag isn't as funny without being preceded by, "Dammit Jim..."
What about "he's dead jim..."
I think you missed one... "What am I? A doctor or a moon shuttle conductor?" ...McCoy said that prior to Devil in the Dark in The Corbomite Maneuver.
She did say "in its traditional form". That line qualifies as a moment, but it's not in the exact wording fans are used to.
Q's line toward the end of "Deja Q" when he said to Riker, "So stolid, commander. You weren't like this before the beard."
Man, c'mon, those "Kind of Star Trek" quote was brilliant, I always giggle to myself when I remember it and it was a perfect place to quote it
trying to get through this video was exhausting. Keep it simple and quick, please
Patrick Stewart is indeed a fine Shakespearean actor, and I have seen the I, Claudius which you nodded to while saying so. However, while Shakespeare himself never leaned too heavily on the fourth wall, theatre actors have done so, from time to time. Even still, we can still take it as Picard rolling his eyes at the universe for putting him in the position to deal with the Ferrengi.
What about Q's comment in All Good Things? 'We're going to put an end to your trek through the stars.'
I actually prefer that to the First Contact line. As it is a more natural sentence.
that's silly too. Q practically gives Picard the answer to the puzzle about the gaseous anomaly, but dismisses it as being "all too easy" (said the same thing about Farpoint Station).
I feel this girl doesn't know the difference between a fourth wall break and a callback.
Q also makes reference to ending their trek across the stars. And more recently makes reference to Yesterday’s Enterprise.
"...despite his temporary fatality..." 😂
Just because the actor is looking directly into the camera, it doesn't mean it is a 4th wall break. It is used as a meta comment. The character is making an off-hand comment to him/herself. Not even Sisko's lines. It was expository. He was still making his log recording. Then he deleted the entire thing, ending the episode.
Sisko recording his log and apparently speaking to us, the audience is probably not the intention of the episode. He's recording his video-log just as modern you-tubers would today, so of course he's speaking direct to camera, so intentional, not accidental or unscripted.
"I'm a doctor, not a historian!" - Julian Bashir - The Trouble with Tribbles
That's not a 4th wall break. That's trolling if we want to use a more contemporary term.
I propose a "Lower Decks" "MST3K" crossover where they try to rescue a man trapped in space only to be captured themselves and then forced to watch an old Star Trek episode referred to as a historical document.
You should have included Q turning the Voyager into a Christmas Tree ornament. RL trek ship ornaments was an annual tradition at the time
The closest thing to a fourth wall break in TNG that I remember was "Ship in a Bottle" when Picard does his "Our reality may be very much like theirs, all this might just be an elaborate simulation running inside a little device sitting on someone's table" speech.
In The Pale Moonlight was such a great episode! I never noticed Denise waving in the background of that one episode. Felt really sweet.
I never noticed the Denise Crosby wave good-bye before.
McCoy's last line in Journey to Babel is my personal favorite!
Seeing Patrick Stewart with hair is oddly unsettling.
~8:50+.... You can tell DC (Yar) sure was enjoying that hug. 😂😂😂
I don't know if I'd call most of these "fourth wall breaks." Most of them are more homages than anything else.
How to say you don't understand what the fourth wall is without saying that you don't understand what the fourth wall is...
You missed one of Doc McCoy's fourth wall breaks. In Star Trek V when Kirk is climbing the mountain, Bones is looking through some treknoculars and directly addresses the camera... "Playing games with life... If I'm not careful I'll end up talking to myself" etc. I don't remember the exact scene but I remember him almost directly addressing the viewers.
As someone who enjoys bad puns, Cochrane's line got a chuckle and a groan from me.
Trials and Tribble-ations has another one. I think its O Brian and Bashir confuse a character played by Kirks body double for Kirk himself.
TOS, "Tomorrow Is Yesterday"
Colonel Fellini: "I'm going to lock you up for two hundred years."
Captain Kirk: (to camera) "That oughta be just about right."
This is the one I kept waiting for.
If you ask me, Patrick Stewart looks like he's looking just past the camera and not directly at it in that first one.
I just came to the rather devastating realization that there is a major real world coincidence to poor Chekhov donning that red shirt... We did lose him not to long after. R.I.P. Anton Yelchin.
His death is a reminder those stupid dial transmissions are bad news.
@@Heymrk except his wasnt a dial transmission if i remember right the jeep had the same shifter that the chargers had where it was like the BMW or Toyota shifters where you just tapped it into gear and the dial was only used in the RAM trucks and the Chrysler sedans but his death and the fix FCA did for all vehicles at that time and the new ones and that has been copied to almost all new vehicles from every manufacturer that people have a very strong dislike for is that if you are unbuckled and you open your door the vehicle will either slam it's self to park or auto applies the Emergency/parking brake
@@BryanGullickson It was transmission failure.
Another "wink to the camera" moment happens in Star Trek The Motion Picture, where Kirk winks to the camera after Spock helps fix the engines and they successfully jump to warp.
I thought he was winking at Chekov.
@@stevenlitvintchouk3131 I'd have winked at Chekhov. Either one. ;-)
I love how, when mentioning that Patrick Stewart is an accomplished Shakespearean actor, you showed him as Sejanus talking to Tiberius; from, “I, Claudius.” 👍🏽
This isn't breaking the 4th wall. It's mostly Easter Eggs. Picard didn't look at the camera, he turned his head and body in disbelief because he's a Shakespearian actor and he is not afraid to used his whole body to get the point accross.
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country "don't wait for the translation, answer me now"
Amazingly no 4th wall breaks actually appear on this list
I always enjoyed the “Star Trek gag” always made me chuckle
11:07 It's like they knew the actor Anton Yelchin was running out of time. RIP we all miss you.
You included the "Star trek" line but forgot about McCoy saying to Spock, "You really have gone where no man has gone before" in Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home.
The Klingons have been bumpy headed since the motion picture, not TNG.
To be honest, In TOS Kirk never said *Beam me up, Scotty* the closest that William Shatner ever got to speaking that line was in _Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home_ was when Kirk, McCoy, and Gillian were returning to the ship after saving Chevok from the hospital and he speaks into the communicator *Scotty, beam me up* to where Gillian decides to jump on to Kirk so that she can beam up with him and help them with finding the whales.
To be fair, she said it was an apocryphal quote.