China’s First ‘Modern’ Armoured Unit: Chinese Armored Regiment of 1937
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- Опубликовано: 27 дек 2021
- The Chinese Armored Regiment, often incorrectly called the Chinese Armored Corps, was one of the first modern armored units in China. Formed in 1937, this unit used a number of well known vehicles such as the German Panzer 1 and Sd.Kfz. 221, as well as some not so well known ones like the Vickers Carden-Loyd Light Amphibious Tanks. Under the command of Du Yuming, the Armored Regiment would participate in some of the earliest battles of the Second Sino Japanese War. Some of the vehicles and equipment that survived these early engagements would continue to see use in other units for the rest of WW2 in China. This video will briefly introduce the Armored Regiment and talk about its organization, as well as the vehicles and equipment that can be found in this unit.
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Sources:
Kangzhan: Guide to Chinese Ground Forces 1937-45
《钢铁抗战-中日装甲兵全史1918～1937》
《抗日战争中国军队坦克装甲车辆图鉴》
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Fun fact:
When the shipment of Panzer 1 first arrived, they were found to be in terrible shape. Not only that but they were woefully unsuited for the Asian terrain as opposed to the European front. The engines overheated, the suspension displayed poor off-road capabilities and crew comfort was miserable. It was no surprised that many of them were immediately lost during the first half of WW2. Interestingly, the captured tanks were labeled as Soviet by the Japanese due to their alliance with Germany.
Thanks for sharing! Some say that the shape they arrived in was due to improper storage during transport. Despite all this, they were still quite well liked by some of the Chinese officers. The commander of the regiment, Du Yuming, spoke quite fondly of them in his memoirs after the war. However, their limited numbers as well as the fact that they weren’t used effectively meant that all of the Panzer 1s were either destroyed or captured by late December of 1937. I think I might have seen one source mentioning that a single Panzer 1 was sent to Hunan with the rest of the regiment before the Battle of Nanking, but there are no photos that I’m aware of and records are lacking. Thanks for watching!
I realize NRA did make a mistake the new military asset like tank should be test before operational if it's okay not terrible,but they didn't test it but it's okay because china at war.( I realize because our government buy Sabrah tank,and it's delivered before operational the new asset test if it's accept or not).
It not test if it's okay not terrible but it's understandable,so yeah, every new military asset should be test.
underrated research and information, I am always interested in the weapons China used in WW2, because the weapons and orgins were so diverse, but nowadays people mostly selectively forget the fact that china was a major battlefield in ww2, which complimented the US troops fighting in the pacific by dragging large portions of japanese forces in mainland and drain their resources
Glad you enjoyed the video! I really like learning about WW2 era Chinese weapons and equipment as well. It’s quite disappointing how the far eastern battlefield has been mostly forgotten. Hopefully, this will change in the future! Thanks again for watching!
This answers many questions ive had about armour in china, great video!!!
Thanks! I’m glad you found the video helpful!
@@resistanceremembered'll definitely have to check out the rest of your catalogue, interesting to see how patchwork the chinese armies vehicles were.
Personally I think China would have done better to standardize on Czechoslovakian panzer35t. Popular export tank, relatively cheap and easily maintained, used guns and ammo already in production in China, and a all around good tank for the mid 30s
Thanks for watching! It is interesting how China never acquired any armored vehicles from the Czechs in any large numbers. They were using large amounts of Czech firearms at the time though so I wonder why there were no vz35s. Especially since China was trying acquire armored vehicles from anywhere and everywhere. Perhaps the Czechs weren’t interested in exporting the tank to the China? I know that they had some problems with the ZB26 machine gun, where the Czechs weren’t willing to provide the Chinese with the plans to the weapon. Things eventually got to the point where the Chinese seriously considered switching to the Danish Madsen as their standard lmg. Still, the idea that they weren’t willing to sell is a wild guess and I have no evidence to support this idea haha
@@resistanceremembered still odd even after Czechoslovakia was annexed by Germany which had no issues selling weapons to China until 1937? Wish I could read mandarin so I could see what the official reasoning was
@@terrynewsome6698 I’m honestly not aware of any documents that examine this issue. When I have time, I’ll go through some of the material I have just to double check. However, by the time Czechoslovakia was annexed, the Sino German cooperation was already over. Sometimes, I wonder how different things would have been if the cooperation period had continued for a while longer.
Hello new friend, World War 2 Chinese Tanks: Chinese Armored Regiment Organization in 1937 I watched
. Thank you for sharing. Always with you
Thanks for watching! I hope you enjoyed it!
Thank you, I have been interested in this topic for years but was never able to find much information. I appreciate the work you have done to shed light on this largely (in the West at least) overlooked theatre of war.
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoy the content!
Welcome back! Looking forward to part 2. Keep us updated if you end up visiting that Shanghai warehouse!
Thanks for watching! I apologize for the long wait. It’s been quite busy working overseas so it took me a lot longer than expected to make the video. Unfortunately, I don’t see the situation changing very much in the near future, but I’ll still be making videos, just at a much slower pace haha. Due to the COVID situation, I haven’t been able to travel much. I do plan to visit the warehouse eventually though, so hopefully, the situation improves this year. I am planning to visit some historic places within the province I’m currently living in so I may be able to make a video or two on that. Thanks for your support!
@@resistanceremembered Great to hear bro! Keep up the great work!
Can’t wait for part 2
what a gem this is. lots of footage i had not seen before
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it! You have some amazing content on your channel as well!!! Love the videos!
@@resistanceremembered onya cobber (as in; 'good on you')
Will you be presenting a “part 2” on the introduction of Anglo American armoured vehicles as well as the lend lease vehicles from 1942.
Thanks for watching! That is a topic that I definitely plan on talking about at some point.
Great to see another video from you! Very informative as always!
Thanks! Glad you liked the video! It’s nice to hear from you again! It really sucks that I can’t comment on your videos anymore and I do apologize for that. I hope everything is going well for you and happy new year!
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Thanks for watching! I’m glad you found this useful.
Brilliant video. I greatly enjoyed the precise detail.
Thanks for watching! I’m really glad you liked the finer details as I was afraid some might find it too boring. Thanks for your support!
Chinese tank formations are often neglected, wonderful analysis
Agreed! During the war, the Chinese used a large variety of interesting armoured vehicles, although all in small numbers. Hopefully, in the future, more people will be interested in them. I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
Awsome video!! It is alway very interesting to learn more about China in ww2 as it is often forgotten.
Thanks! Unfortunately, WW2 in China is often forgotten but hopefully, that will eventually change once more people start to see how interesting the history really was. I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
Nice work bro keep it up
Thanks for watching! I’m glad you liked it!
Nice to see a video from you again m8, I hope all is well with you, great video as always. Very well done 👏 ✔ 👍 👌
Hey Stan, it’s great to hear from you! It really sucks that I’m unable to comment on your videos anymore due to my limited access to RUclips here. This video took much longer than expected as I was very busy with work. Aside from being a bit busy, everything else has been pretty good. Didn’t have time to start a new collection yet unfortunately, but planning on doing that soon. How are things going for you? Did you add any interesting items to your collection recently? Really glad to hear from you again, and I wish you a happy new year! Best of luck on your collecting adventures this year haha!
@@resistanceremembered aha thanks for replying m8....and great to hear everything is going good for you. Don't worry about not commenting I know you are still watching 😉. Yeh I'm always buying new stuff to add to the collection, much to my wife's disappointment....one day maybe I will have my own fully stocked museum ....full if cold war and military surplus crap!!.....all the best to you m8 and take care 🙂
2:10 Might those be tracks strapped to the side so they can turn the armoured car into a half-track perhaps?
You’re correct, those are tracks that can be fitted around rear wheels. The vehicles in the video belong to the Canton Provincial Government’s armoured unit and were built on Thornycroft chassis. Thanks for watching!
I’m so happy you are back I’ve really missed your videos hope you are doing well, can’t wait to see more and where do you find these videos and pictures for your videos
Thanks for watching! I’ve been quite busy the last few months so it took much longer than expected to put out a new video. Unfortunately, due to working overseas along with having only a very limited access to RUclips, I expect that the rate at which I put out new videos will be much slower. It’s nice to know that everyone still enjoys it though! If you want to look for related footage, my advice will be to start with the the Internet Archive and the National Archive Catalog. Try going through some period newsreels and documentaries. It’s a really time consuming process though, although it’s something that I still really enjoy haha. If you enjoy learning about history, you’ll probably really enjoy it too! Thanks again for your support!
Ah this was a pretty well put togheter video, you don't see a lot of videos that cover these topics as well as trying to correct some of the previous assumptions of the armored units in China. May I ask if you are able to link the footages that you used for the video? As I'm unable to find them with using the links in the description. Will you be covering the 200th mechanized Divison as well in the future? I read somewhere that around 4 BT-5 was also used by the same division, however there is no photographic evidence to support it and it was only mentioned by Du Yummings memoir. But overall you've done a good job with this.
Thanks for watching! I’m really glad you enjoyed! Unfortunately, I no longer have the links to all the videos as the footage was collected by myself over a period of multiple months. You can also try to look for the footage on sites like RUclips and Bilibili. However, I recommend translating your search from English to Chinese or Japanese in order to find interesting photos and videos. Was there anything in particular that you were looking for? I would love to be able to do a video on the 200th division (the initial mechanized one and not the later reorganized infantry one lol) but it probably won’t be anytime soon as I’m already working on 3 different videos at the moment. I will keep that in mind though for future videos! As for the BT5s, I’ve seen them mentioned on multiple sources as well. Although there are no known photographic evidence, I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of them made their way to China with all the other Soviet equipment after the start of the war. Thanks again for your support!
@@resistanceremembered Hello, my apologies for the very late response, but thank you very much for replying to my comment. I was mainly looking for the footage of the Chinese vickers tanks mainly around 5:17 where Chinese tank crews were shown as I haven't seen that kind of footage anywhere as well as the AA guns at the very end of the video and their bionuclairs.
@@starwarsstudio100 If I remember correctly, I believe the tank was from an old Chinese documentary that I found on RUclips. The AA gun clip was definitely from the US National Archives and is actually from post-civil war.
@@resistanceremembered Ah I see, do you know the original Chinese title of that documentary by any chance or any keywords that may lead to it. The part with the armored cars? Where they also from that same documentary at 2:15?
Post-Civil War? So the KMT still used the M35 helmets after the Civil war? I assumed that all the M35 were phased out by the KMT by the time they evacuated to Taiwan as interesting enough, I've seen the M35 being used by the communists all the way into the Korean War.
@@starwarsstudio100 Unfortunately, I don’t as it’s been a while. I just have that clip saved from the original video haha. I’ll be sure to let you know if I find it again. The armored cars are from a different documentary called the 400 Million which is on RUclips as well. Hope this helps!
What howitzer would you say was the workhorse of the kmt army for the 9 years of war?
The most common would have been the 75mm Krupp 1903 field guns and their derivatives. The Chinese managed to acquire a number of Japanese produced examples and even produced them domestically as well if I’m not mistaken. Extremely old and obsolete but the most numerous. However, as with virtually most ‘heavy’ artillery pieces, these were not provided to regular infantry units for the most part and were instead, concentrated in dedicated independent artillery regiments or brigades under the direct command of general headquarters.
Not bad, a few things are debatable (impossible to verify), those Krupp trucks stumped you eh? Ive been researching them for a long time and have a very unique theory as to what happened to them. Looking forward to part 2
Thanks for watching! Yeah, there are a lot of things that can’t be said for certain. I tried pointing a couple out, but didn’t really have the time to go in depth about the inconsistencies between sources. Yeah, I couldn’t find much useful information on the Protze trucks. Although they’re not necessarily directly connected to the Armored Regiment, I still decided to mention them in the video since hardly anyone knows about them haha. Perhaps you should make a video about them in the future. Thanks again for watching!
@@resistanceremembered I made a video a while back but have kept it private as it contains too much conjecture. Take care mate
After ww2 what happened to all vehicles,armored cars,and tanks?
They were then used in the Chinese Civil War, with some being destroyed. For most of the survivors, they were eventually replaced with more modern vehicles and subsequently scrapped.
Loved the video! It’s nice to see there are people that are interested in these things! Also I was wondering what tank or armored car would have been the best for the terrain and economy China had?
I’m glad you enjoyed the video! That’s actually a really hard question to answer as there are so many different factors to consider. In my opinion, of the 3 types of tanks that China did import in the mid 1930s, the Vickers 6 ton Mk E was probably the best. With a 47mm main gun as well as a coaxial Vickers MG, it had the potential to be a great infantry support tank if used properly. Had the Sino German cooperation lasted for a bit longer, the Chinese might have been able to acquire better German tanks as well like the Panzer 2 or perhaps even an early variant of the Panzer 3. However, this is just speculation as no one can be sure how history would have turned out had China and Germany remained allies. Thanks again for watching!
@@resistanceremembered that’s pretty interesting! I always believed that the Panzer II would have done well in China, with it being pretty fast and the auto cannon being pretty “ok” against Japanese tanks. I never thought about the Vickers 6 ton as a good tank for China but that main gun is gonna do pretty big dents on Japanese armor. Also by any chance, do you know if China ever produced Stahlhelms? Or were all of them from the German purchase? I know they domestically produced the C96 and a few other German rifles but what about the Equipment?
@Soup_man Ive seen some equipment used by the Republic of China during the time period, and it was like a massive salad, I keep dreading the logistic problems it could face, many guns were chambered in different bullets, the most common gun they had was the Hanyang Type 88 which had 8mm rounds, but then I see pictures of what looks like French rifles and even South-American made rifles alongside the Type 88. I can just imagine some soldiers trying to chamber mismatching cartridges' into their rifles.
@@44unknown83 My apologies for not seeing this earlier. The problem with a lot of the German vehicles were that they were expensive and complicated to maintain. Furthermore, a problem with the Panzer 1 in China was they fact that they were designed to be driven on relatively even ground. Due to the Chinese terrain being so different from that of Germany, the tanks often threw their tracks when being used there. As for the stahlhelm, China did make domestic versions throughout the war. In fact, the first domestically produced ‘stalhelm’ was based off WW1 designs and was already in use with the Chinese army years before the Germans introduced the newer M35. I don’t think there’s an official designation for it but many people are calling coal scuttle helmet.
@@44unknown83 Just something interesting that I wanted to add, even using the Hanyangs and Chiang Kaishek rifles together could have been a problem. Although they’re both 8mm rifles, the Hanyangs were never updated to use spitzer bullets. So essentially, there are two similar rifles that can both chamber the same cartridge but one works best with a pointed cartridge and the other should only use round-nose ones (both of which were in production at that time). Logistics definitely would have been a nightmare!
And why china didn't deploy many cavalry unit only few? And did Chinese captured more tank during second sino Japanese war?
China had a couple of cavalry units, most of them located in the north, with some of them seeing action in the early days of the war. However, a cavalry unit would have been more expensive to maintain than a standard infantry unit and weren’t always effective when used against a superior enemy like the Japanese. Furthermore, most cavalry units were actually provincial units, not part of the central army. As for tanks, China captured a few during the war, but after the war, large amounts were surrendered to the Chinese by Japan and made up a large part of both the nationalist and communist armoured force in the years after ww2. Hope this answers your questions and thanks again for watching!
好好好好好好好 真的非常非常佩服您能收集到这么多珍贵资料和影像
我非常喜欢制作一些军歌配上二战中国军队的剪辑视频
真的很想知道比如 2:36 的谢尔曼的影像可以在哪找到 如果能指条路真的帮大忙了
巧了！前两天刚刷到您做的保卫黄河视频哈哈哈。 谢尔曼坦克的视频实在美国National Archives的网站找到的。感谢观看！
@@resistanceremembered 好的好的 谢谢您！
@@resistanceremembered 顺带一提您是在美国吗
@@s1lv3rzz 不，我在加拿大哈哈哈
@@resistanceremembered 请问能加个discord之类的吗 有很多问题想请教您
16:35 I thought Chinese only use flak 88 aa gun.
The Chinese never imported any flak 88s. The closest thing they had were 75mm Bofors M1929s from Sweden
@@resistanceremembered I'm confused I read in wiki that chinese only use flak and how many AA artillery has the NRA in ww2 and did warlord possess any AA artillery?
@@earlnovero8208 The Chinese used a wide range of AA guns during the war, but never an 8.8cm flak gun from Germany. Perhaps the source you’re referring to is talking about the 3.7cm Flak 18, which the Chinese did have. They also had a couple of German 8.8cm SKC30 naval gun that could be used as AA guns but they were also very different from flak 88s. Besides the bofors, other examples of heavy AA guns include a 75mm Vickers AA gun, as well as a 76mm Soviet AA gun. In terms of warlords, I believe the Northeastern army may have made their own AA artillery for a while but those didn’t really have much of an impact on the war.
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Thanks!
referred to in Chinese as 三蹦子
哈哈哈是的。您是北京人吗？
@@resistanceremembered 四川，不过就川军那装备水平应该进不来你这个系列(虽然打的很英勇)
@@Vincevans168 I see. 以后有机会还是想讲一讲这支部队的。前段时间刚收了一个川军的帽徽，有空也可以做一期跟它有关的视频哈哈哈。