Tank Chats #89 | Universal Carrier | The Tank Museum

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
  • David Fletcher takes a look at the Second World War Universal Carrier, a light tracked armoured vehicle and the most produced armoured fighting vehicle of WW2.
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  • @jasoncarswell7458
    @jasoncarswell7458 4 года назад +413

    David Fletcher drives to work in a Universal Carrier. He needed something heavy enough to carry his mustache.

    • @zxbzxbzxb1
      @zxbzxbzxb1 4 года назад +20

      Must say I rather envisioned the 'Tasche-man travelling to work on a Challenger 2 and leading a convoy of 12 Centurian tanks and 40 support vehicles carrying teams of special forces bodyguards

    • @Rutherford_Inchworm_III
      @Rutherford_Inchworm_III 4 года назад +28

      Loadout (standard): 1x Bren gun, 1x PIAT, 2x crew, 2x riflemen.
      Loadout (Fletcher variant): 1x Fletcher, 1x mustache

    • @Gj23jk2
      @Gj23jk2 4 года назад +13

      @@Rutherford_Inchworm_III They should stick a bagpiper in the back to provide suitably British traveling music. It's only fair, really. Think of all that mustache has done for us!

    • @TheCimbrianBull
      @TheCimbrianBull 4 года назад +10

      @@Gj23jk2
      Ask not what you can do for your country but ask what your mustache can for your country.

    • @orangejoe204
      @orangejoe204 4 года назад +8

      David seems to have trimmed his Frontal Bristle Armor there. I can actually see the lad's mouth!

  • @CybershamanX
    @CybershamanX 4 года назад +41

    David once again makes my day! Not to get into specifics (I'm in a bad way medically/physically), but every time I listen to this man talk I just feel better. I don't know what it is, but I just feel like everything is going to be OK. Thanks, David! I hope things are going better for you than they are for me! ;)
    Btw, if I may speak on behalf of everyone here, I hope he knows he's well liked (well, more than that, really!). I gather that he might not go in for all of this "high tech nonsense", but in my opinion that just accentuates his charm. While I also have the feeling that he might not "get it", I at least hope he appreciates it on some level. I wonder if he tells the boys down at the pub about how he's a big RUclips star now... ;) Anyway, thank you so much for having him be part of the whole team (you're all great,too!). I always love what he has to say and the depth of his knowledge just astounds me sometimes. Here's to many more years of Tank Chats with David Fletcher! :D

  • @Ed-ty1kr
    @Ed-ty1kr 4 года назад +3

    As a former infantry soldier, I like the thing. Anything to save my knees is useful. Even today they are talking about cumbersome exoskeletons to help carry loads... when they could just bring this thing back, and save their backs.

  • @zenzen9131
    @zenzen9131 Год назад +1

    My father drove one of these for the 2nd Btn of the Monmouthshire Regiment who went over to France about 10 days after D-Day I think. They got as far as Antwerp when he was shot through the arm and was on a DC-3 back to Blighty the very same day. Subsequently the regiment took massive casualties in supporting the Americans during the Battle of the Bulge. All officers and most of the NCOs were killed and not many returned home at all. Lest we forget !

  • @axelrajr
    @axelrajr 4 года назад

    very nice. and i could probably sit here all day listening to David Fletcher list all the variations of the Universal Carrier he knows of.

  • @beckster181
    @beckster181 4 года назад +40

    My Dad was in the Aussie 7th Div Cav Regt in WW2 and they had these things that were sent to Egypt and then grounded as not serviceable and required parts to be swapped to make them work ok when Japan entered the war they were recalled to Australia and after training for jungle fighting they were sent to Port Morsby in Papua New Guinea still with their carriers all grounded and once they arrived the carriers were all chained to some trees on the outskirts of Morsby and the Regt was sent to the north side of Papua New Guinea to a place called Sanananda Road where they fought as Infantry and when pulled out officially 9 months later the Regt consisted of less than 100 members all the rest had been KIA WIA or evacuated with serious illness and after that the unit was never sent as a whole into combat again and technically ceased to exist

  • @ogaugeclockwork4407
    @ogaugeclockwork4407 4 года назад

    Also built by South Australian Railways Workshop. My grandfather had a surplus one with a missing engine and transmission in the back yard, spent plenty of time playing in it and getting covered in carbon black from the steering wheel! Eventually it got sold for restoration.

  • @johnfisk811
    @johnfisk811 4 года назад +3

    There was no need for one big load bay. Everything that went on was supposed to be portable by two men once unloaded to bring it forward to the battle line.

  • @NeoPsychosis-zg2ki
    @NeoPsychosis-zg2ki 4 года назад +1

    Universal carriers are WW2 equivalent of M113 gavin, M8 however was the stryker at that time.

    • @chaz8758
      @chaz8758 4 года назад

      "Gavin" how dare you bring Mike Sparks ideas here lol

  • @prof_kaos9341
    @prof_kaos9341 4 года назад

    I read the Germans captured so many at Dunkirk that the Brits got about 100 back in 1945. Here in New Zealand with most WW2 vets getting financed into farming every 2nd farm had one post war.

  • @LMSILVIA
    @LMSILVIA 4 года назад

    Already subscribed Fletch you just pump them videos out you handsome awesome man.

  • @carlwesternut2434
    @carlwesternut2434 3 года назад

    I wish they still made them, for the civilian market.
    I'd definitely buy one.

  • @belchnasty
    @belchnasty 4 года назад +1267

    Fletch has spoken. All other opinions on the subject matter are now null & void

    • @iatsd
      @iatsd 4 года назад +1

      Given he's frequently wrong, you'd have to be a fool to take anyting he says these days as gospel.

    • @davidlyon1899
      @davidlyon1899 4 года назад +12

      @@iatsd Yeah,but,they,can,do,ANYTING.

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 4 года назад +6

      yes, i used to think "this looks useless". thus am i schooled!

    • @jasskeeper8152
      @jasskeeper8152 4 года назад +13

      @@iatsd he's human being, it's normal.

    • @daviddevries8242
      @daviddevries8242 4 года назад +17

      @@iatsd Please give me examples.

  • @herrrobert5340
    @herrrobert5340 4 года назад +715

    I want David Fletcher to tuck me in at night and read me bedtime stories of WW2 AFVs.

  • @NetTopsey
    @NetTopsey 4 года назад +212

    1:38 "Except that without an engine of course the thing's absolutely useless" Another Fletcherism to throw at my friends.

    • @chaz8758
      @chaz8758 4 года назад +5

      Without an engine they were used as trailers to carry supply's (towed behind tanks on the attack) and even for one of the first mine clearing line charges - the Conger.

    • @AirsoftReviewArgentina
      @AirsoftReviewArgentina 4 года назад +1

      The sense of humor in this man is just priceless

  • @jakedee4117
    @jakedee4117 4 года назад +356

    Farmers around my home town bought these universal carriers as war surplus. They used them as tractors and general utility vehicles on boggy ground. Then I guess in the 60s and 70s they dumped them as they broke down and better 4X4s became available. Then in the 90s and 00's collectors dug them out of the swamps and started to restore them.
    It would be interesting to know the price of this vehicle when it was first produced, its price as war surplus and its price today as a restored running vehicle.

    • @stephenjones6500
      @stephenjones6500 4 года назад +14

      @mandellorian £45,000 ish i still want one 😀

    • @Alan.livingston
      @Alan.livingston 4 года назад +13

      Same in Australia. Lots of surplus ended up as workhorses on farms.

    • @richardo36
      @richardo36 4 года назад +14

      In BC they were used as sliders for pulling logs out of the bush.

    • @spudgunn8695
      @spudgunn8695 4 года назад +20

      I was brought up in Hampshire in the UK, near the South Downs, and there were two farmers still using these to get feed out to livestock in the winter in the 1980's. They also did a sideline in military reenactments. They might still be using them for all I know, I moved away in 1990...

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +4

      That "armor" was a lot of extra weight to lug around. Did they cut the side and front plates away and just use the hull and running gear?

  • @A.F.M.B.1234
    @A.F.M.B.1234 4 года назад +239

    I love these things;
    Are they any good at fighting? Nah
    Are they powerful? Nah
    Can they traverse anything? Nah
    So what do they do? *anything!* Carry stuff, pull stuff, transport people, brew tea, transport stuff,
    It's like giving a soldier a crowbar
    It's not a weapon, but ain't nobody is gonna complain about having a crowbar!

    • @TheLastSterling1304
      @TheLastSterling1304 4 года назад +45

      Are they any good at fighting? Ask the Germans if they like Wasps.
      Are they powerful? Is a bullet proof, self-propelled 50.cal mount powerful?
      Can they traverse anything? Can a jeep do better?
      Never underestimate the power of a "utilty" vehicle. Given enough time, and the PBI will make some 40k~esk modification that even the factories start properly building them.

    • @jaykayguns
      @jaykayguns 4 года назад

      😂

    • @Listless_Robin
      @Listless_Robin 4 года назад +18

      To be fair they were *universal* carriers. They were actually made to traverse pretty much everything from the mud of Normandy to the sands of north Africa all the way to the snow on the Eastern front!

    • @danthesupplyman4113
      @danthesupplyman4113 4 года назад +9

      Gordon Freeman would like to disagree with your statement of a crowbar not being a weapon

    • @pheels
      @pheels 4 года назад +3

      The universal carrier is like an enlarged tracked jeep in many respects was interesting to see the jeep trailer in the video

  • @lemonflavouredquark
    @lemonflavouredquark 4 года назад +91

    My favourite variant was used by the NZ division. What you did was loot an automatic 20mm cannon from a crashed plane and attach it to the carrier.

    • @simonmorris4226
      @simonmorris4226 3 года назад +1

      I want one!😈

    • @MakingMoneyyy857
      @MakingMoneyyy857 4 месяца назад

      Ive seen photos with 50cals and piats but not a hispano cannon! The Nz brigade were the best scroungers in the african campaign so not surprised!

  • @landarjohnson5741
    @landarjohnson5741 4 года назад +641

    “We gave a lot to the Russians; God knows what they made of them.”

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 4 года назад +98

      I am still researching this but the obvious go-to move is the 76mm cannon.

    • @tomb7642
      @tomb7642 4 года назад +84

      Russians: ah good they sent us more flat packs so we can make more T-34's!

    • @QuizmasterLaw
      @QuizmasterLaw 4 года назад +11

      @@tomb7642 2500 were sent in total though ru wikipedia doesn't say much more than that.
      ru.qwertyu.wiki/wiki/Universal_Carrier

    • @RGDcommentnode
      @RGDcommentnode 4 года назад +48

      I'm sure some of the Russian soldier appreciated having a vehicle to ride on.

    • @dukenukem8381
      @dukenukem8381 4 года назад +95

      they just stored them in Siberia and later sold them to western collectors for profit and bitched about how much lendlease did not help them

  • @stutzada
    @stutzada 4 года назад +413

    "They didn't *like* them, but they used them."

    • @johnalan6067
      @johnalan6067 4 года назад +25

      Reminds me to Rumsfeld's quote when asked about Humvees in the second Iraqi war.

    • @andreww2098
      @andreww2098 4 года назад +10

      I think the US built an extended version the second axle was made the same as the front one with 2 wheels instead of one, and an extended cargo area called the T16

    • @tomb7642
      @tomb7642 4 года назад +16

      @Tom Sanders tell Fritz, I don't give a damn! *Boing boing boing*

    • @tomb7642
      @tomb7642 4 года назад +11

      @Klantvinder.com they don't like 🦋 butterflies?

    • @MrFleem
      @MrFleem 4 года назад +17

      @@tomb7642 That's right, monarch butterflies taste terrible. I've never found any that I liked.

  • @kenclements3001
    @kenclements3001 4 года назад +35

    All across Canada, you'll see these vehicles parked out in from of Legion branches and armouries as a static display commemorating WW2.

  • @ResaFMkII
    @ResaFMkII 4 года назад +183

    'Armoured vehicles need engines.'
    Cheers Fletch.

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 года назад +8

      Now you know where you went wrong. 😄

    • @potatopants4691
      @potatopants4691 4 года назад +7

      Armored bicycle says hi

    • @BluJean6692
      @BluJean6692 3 года назад +1

      this has only been true for 100 years so it's worth noting lmao

    • @Zorro9129
      @Zorro9129 3 года назад

      I thought it was pedal-powered?

  • @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl
    @CharlesvanDijk-ir6bl 4 года назад +70

    "They were not supposed to pull AT-Guns but they did." So the carrier and the 6 pounder combo was not approved of? Thanks God rules are meant to be broken.

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 года назад +5

      Needs must when the devil drives, and all that. Plus if you tell a group of men not to do it you know that they are.

    • @kirotheavenger60
      @kirotheavenger60 4 года назад +10

      He might mean that towing guns was not oart of the original design intention, rather than being generally discouraged.

    • @Rhubba
      @Rhubba 4 года назад +10

      The official towing vehicle for the 6pdr was the Lloyd Carrier which is similar to the UC. If the Lloyds broke down, then any UC would do.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 4 года назад +10

      The carriers were used for just about anything that could be thought of.

    • @chaz8758
      @chaz8758 4 года назад +2

      The troops did what was needed, the British used tanks at times to tow the Infantry AT guns during an assault, this meant they had their AT guns ready right away for the inevitable counter attack rather than waiting for them to be brought up by rear echelon often by trucks.

  • @ADVtheMISSIONARY
    @ADVtheMISSIONARY 4 года назад +41

    a bunch of Aussies in Carriers charging across a field with guns blazing.......yes Aussies loved them

  • @thoughtful_criticiser
    @thoughtful_criticiser 3 года назад +17

    My father spent his entire war in one. Across North Africa, Italy, Normandy, through Western Europe and into Germany. He loved it.
    Beats walking!

  • @TornadoADV
    @TornadoADV 4 года назад +246

    I consider them as more capable Jeeps rather then direct armored vehicles.

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +25

      Except the were used for far more than just a light truck. They really did use them as APCs and as self-propelled MGs during assaults.

    • @F4Wildcat
      @F4Wildcat 4 года назад +16

      @@jamestheotherone742 And they were armored. Okay, just enough for rifle calibres, but armored none the less

    • @daviddevries8242
      @daviddevries8242 4 года назад +16

      I wouldn't say they are objectively more capable. They have some advantages over the Jeep but the reverse is also the case.

    • @ptonpc
      @ptonpc 4 года назад +2

      They were not supposed to be used as armour. Some 113,000 were built up till 1960.

    • @daviddevries8242
      @daviddevries8242 4 года назад +2

      @@ptonpc More of these built than jeeps? According to what source? Or did you just assume?

  • @Rednukegaming
    @Rednukegaming 4 года назад +263

    ' and also in Canada .... which is another country.....' greatness

    • @Giloup92
      @Giloup92 4 года назад +12

      But the same queen 👸 !

    • @byebye1813
      @byebye1813 4 года назад +10

      @@Giloup92 unfortunately.

    • @PatGilliland
      @PatGilliland 4 года назад +8

      @@byebye1813 Oi!

    • @MrCyphermonkey
      @MrCyphermonkey 4 года назад +9

      Taken out of context.

    • @sandgrownun66
      @sandgrownun66 4 года назад +5

      +Rednukegaming Did you actually listen to what David said in the video? He said, to quote: "And also in Canada, which is another country that turned out a huge number of them".

  • @Lennart_Jensen
    @Lennart_Jensen 4 года назад +72

    Now I know what I can wish for christmas. A cute little Universal Carrier.

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +5

      preferably with an AT gun mounted on it?

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 года назад +3

      If you see a rather large box under the Christmas tree do not say I wonder what that is. We all know what that is. 😄

    • @thatguyoverthere9634
      @thatguyoverthere9634 4 года назад +1

      I prefer the top mounted 1917

    • @paulnorris8291
      @paulnorris8291 4 года назад +2

      I'd love one too, one of my top five tanks though its not exactly a tank but its got to have a 50cal on board.

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +1

      You'd bust your shins on the steering box and curse it by New Years.

  • @MrAnticlimate
    @MrAnticlimate 4 года назад +102

    Rommel mentioned in his memoirs the advantage the British infantry had over the Axis, by the fact that it was heavily mechanized*. Even if they had to give up their positions they could retreat withou heavy losses, thanks to such vehicles as this one.
    *or at least motorized

    • @alecblunden8615
      @alecblunden8615 4 года назад +18

      There was only one fully mechanised army at the outbreak of war - it wasn't the Germans, the Americans or the French. It was the British.

    • @Marc83Aus
      @Marc83Aus 4 года назад +9

      @@alecblunden8615 Which was shortly afterwards donated to Germany. The war wouldn't have lasted as long if they hadn't been able to prop up their appalling logistics with captured British, French, Czech and later Russian Vehicles. The Czech was so important they might likely have lost the invasion of france without it.

    • @Angrybogan
      @Angrybogan 3 года назад +2

      The Italians got badly defeated by the British because they weren't mechanised /motorised and the British were.

  • @drbedlam9786
    @drbedlam9786 4 года назад +114

    Imagine if David Fletcher built a tank..... could we even stop him if he built such a weapon?

    • @nacho71ar
      @nacho71ar 4 года назад +14

      Great... Now I WANT him to build one...

    • @drbedlam9786
      @drbedlam9786 4 года назад +14

      We're talking about a weapon to surpass weapons that surpass Metal Gear here.

    • @tomb7642
      @tomb7642 4 года назад +8

      Just ask him to tell you all about it. Should keep him busy for a while ;)

    • @byebye1813
      @byebye1813 4 года назад +5

      But would you want to stop him?

    • @drbedlam9786
      @drbedlam9786 4 года назад +8

      Mister, we all know what happens to those who defy Fletcher. Remember that historian who said the Valiant was a good tank? Me neither, and we all know why.

  • @mikea683
    @mikea683 4 года назад +30

    Sir David:"If you find that you like t.."
    Me at the top of my voice: "YES I DO DAVID, YES I DO!"
    Other passengers on the train: :-/

  • @moose2577
    @moose2577 4 года назад +44

    I see mustache, I click video. It is my purpose.

  • @isengard1500
    @isengard1500 4 года назад +90

    The universal carrier was a war winning machine. Why? Logistics!

    • @Legitpenguins99
      @Legitpenguins99 4 года назад +3

      Just that word melts my brain

    • @poisonousteapot2394
      @poisonousteapot2394 4 года назад +4

      Germany: logistics is judenphysik!

    • @davidquak4398
      @davidquak4398 3 года назад +7

      You can basicaly have every platoon outfitted with a cheap support vehicle

    • @davidquak4398
      @davidquak4398 3 года назад

      @@poisonousteapot2394 lol. That's hilarious

    • @Cancun771
      @Cancun771 3 года назад

      @@poisonousteapot2394 And goes on to steal wooden, horse-drawn _panjewagen_ from poor Russian peasants after their own "modern" horse-drawn carriages with rubber tiers have broken down and their own racially superior horses have all died.

  • @jamestheotherone742
    @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +136

    When your alternative is walking, anything will do.

    • @Bird_Dog00
      @Bird_Dog00 4 года назад +1

      Unless it's a Matilda 1...

    • @Celebmacil
      @Celebmacil 4 года назад +3

      The worst ride is better than the best walk.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 года назад

      @@Rabhadh Canada had trucks (about one for every three Canadian soldiers were made).

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад

      @@allangibson8494 Most of them were carrying logistics and none of them would get them across that last 500m.

    • @allangibson8494
      @allangibson8494 4 года назад +2

      @@jamestheotherone742 Without logistics you don't get to the last 500m. That was the Axis powers one uniform failure - all of them without exception had lousy logistics and as a result had troops starving without fuel in the field. For examples, on D-day the German troops hadn't had food for four days.
      About 10% of the Canadian trucks wound up armored (they were converted to armored cars).

  • @ironheadr3
    @ironheadr3 Год назад +10

    When I was about 8 or 9 years old my parents owned a petrol station and there was one of these in a paddock beside it. One day some army blokes came and worked it and actually got it going. A lot of the kids in the area had a ride. One of my best childhood memories.

  • @larsschroter6994
    @larsschroter6994 4 года назад +36

    I want a David Fletcher miniature figurine to put next to things in need of explanations! Would also look quite nice next to model tanks.

    • @bgoth1435
      @bgoth1435 4 года назад +3

      Now there's a business idea, I'd buy one!

    • @williamcarrington61
      @williamcarrington61 4 года назад

      War gamers would agree , l'm sure ?

    • @gordonlekfors2708
      @gordonlekfors2708 2 года назад

      and people seeing it would ask you why in the world you have a maniature of a homeless man.

  • @VitaminsB1212
    @VitaminsB1212 4 года назад +25

    The universal always struck me as basically an armored jeep, so incredibly versatile like the jeep but now armored up and tracked

    • @timengineman2nd714
      @timengineman2nd714 8 месяцев назад

      Exactly! I wonder why they just didn't just run the exhaust system up and back and put heat shields around it to protect the troops....

  • @thetourettesgamer8851
    @thetourettesgamer8851 4 года назад +40

    The god of all Tanks and various other armoured fighting vehicles has spoken

  • @darrenchard2221
    @darrenchard2221 4 года назад +49

    “If I listed them all I’d be here all day” . . .
    Well I’ve made a cup of tea, I’ve sat down I’m ready to hear the list please

    • @r0guestorm964
      @r0guestorm964 4 года назад +6

      Mind if I have a seat next to you? I will gladly give Mr Fletcher all day or as much time as he wants.

    • @darrenchard2221
      @darrenchard2221 4 года назад +3

      R0gue Storm I’ll put the kettle back on, tea or coffee?

  • @903strikerunit
    @903strikerunit 4 года назад +60

    Did the British tried to shoehorn a tea-maker in this thing?

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 4 года назад +5

      no. this comes before that, sadly

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 4 года назад +20

      What do you think the trailer was for. It's full of tea. Got to get your priorities right.

    • @Trev794
      @Trev794 4 года назад +7

      The teas made us never shoehorned in its intrinsic in every British tank design since the mark 4 boiled the gunner and loader

    • @tomb7642
      @tomb7642 4 года назад +16

      They start with the tea maker then design the vehicle around that, obviously!

    • @Kevin-mx1vi
      @Kevin-mx1vi 4 года назад +30

      I believe it was originally designed as a tea carrier, hence the three compartments in the back (tea, milk, sugar) but they found it could also carry less vital things such as ammunition and other stores. 😉

  • @dirus3142
    @dirus3142 4 года назад +21

    Maybe Mr. Fletcher could do an audio book reading for The Chieftain's book.

  • @idanceforpennies281
    @idanceforpennies281 4 года назад +9

    I met a New Zealand farmer who had several as work vehicles. It was common there into the late1960s. No better advertisement, farmers are totally pragmatic and don't use junk that loses them money.

    • @melorange1678
      @melorange1678 Год назад +1

      Also used in the big forestry industry. Not mentioned was a lot produced at the GM Factory in Petone, New Zealand.

  • @markjennings2315
    @markjennings2315 4 года назад +5

    My great uncle went to war in a bren gun carrier in the BEF aged 18. He had to leave it at Dunkirk and swim for it. Then fought The Africa corp in in his universal carrier in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya. Then Anzio and up through italy, before being returned to Britain to take part in the D-day landings. His war was ended when he was killed by machine gun fire from the SS panzer corp on the outskirts of Bayeux. Great vehicle for flanking gun positions, trenches and even armoured units.

  • @andrebartels1690
    @andrebartels1690 4 года назад +46

    8 people are disappointed, that David Fletcher didn't list _all_ the purposes, the universal carrier was put to.

    • @willwallacetree
      @willwallacetree 4 года назад +8

      My favourite is the one that a Canadian unit in the Netherlands lashed together as an experiment for harassing German positions and pestering sniper nests. It had 15 (maybe 20?) PIATs on a wooden rack, set to fire together in a high arc.

    • @Hanfgurkenhasser
      @Hanfgurkenhasser 4 года назад +1

      @@willwallacetree Wtf :D

    • @willwallacetree
      @willwallacetree 4 года назад +5

      @@Hanfgurkenhasser it's a completely insane concept. Indirect fire gave a range of something like 400 yards, and they'd all drop out of the sky at the same time to cause great excitement. The creature was fired a few times for test purposes, then probably dismantled by somebody sensible.
      Picture here :)
      www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/attachments/1piat.jpg

    • @SentaDuck
      @SentaDuck 3 года назад +4

      ​@@willwallacetree Probably dismantled when people started asking questions about where all the PIATs went.

  • @Mad_S
    @Mad_S 3 года назад +6

    I can't believe 222,000 people forgot to like this.
    I absolutely love your presentation. Laid back and proffesional with a good sense of humor.

  • @nukemman
    @nukemman 4 года назад +16

    The Universal Carrier was the "jeep" of tanks!

  • @mrfahrenheit3867
    @mrfahrenheit3867 4 года назад +13

    I've seen a few on farms in New Zealand back in my youth, I guess they were cheaper than a tractor after the war :)

    • @alicecooper5533
      @alicecooper5533 3 года назад +2

      goverment deer cullers used them to get acess into river valleys in in alps

  • @rokinz3270
    @rokinz3270 3 года назад +3

    Um you forgetting New Zealand 🇳🇿. Over 1000 were built and we had never built anything like that

  • @neillh
    @neillh 4 года назад +14

    Australia and New Zealand both made universal carriers as well

  • @TheLastSterling1304
    @TheLastSterling1304 4 года назад +16

    The Carden-Loyd Tankette, arguable the most sucessful tank design. No Joke.
    You have designs based of it from Great Britain to as far as Japan.

    • @richardm3023
      @richardm3023 4 года назад +1

      Calling that a tank is like calling a Fiat a Limousine.

    • @Weisior
      @Weisior 4 года назад +1

      @@richardm3023 Technicaly it was a tank goddamit

    • @olivierr.5752
      @olivierr.5752 4 года назад +4

      Yea, and in Canada too... which is another country... :)

    • @Paciat
      @Paciat 4 года назад +2

      The first allied tank ace of WWII E. Orlik got his kills on TKS 20 tankette witch was based off Carden-Loyd.
      But back in the 20s Britain and France were the only designers in the world and Britain was selling to anyone. Thats also why the 6 ton Vickers E was a success.

  • @logoseven3365
    @logoseven3365 4 года назад +56

    “The American didn’t like them”
    The Government, the brass, or the men? Ignore the first two, the third group is all that matters. I bet they liked them.

    • @Predator42ID
      @Predator42ID 4 года назад +15

      If he said the Americans didn't like them then it was the men. Trust me its usually the stuff that is still loved the bureaucrats hate. I can see why as well, the jeep provided plenty of mobility and firepower without tracks, the Alligaters and Duks were better and overall so much more tolerable.

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 4 года назад +1

      Didn't we one called the weisel?

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +11

      The men. The Universal Carriers really weren't a very good vehicle if you were used to White scout cars, halftracks, etc. It was tiny and stupidly... er... inefficiently laid out.

    • @88porpoise
      @88porpoise 4 года назад +14

      LogoSeven Probably everyone. Considering the context in which they were used it isn’t surprising. A bunch were being shipped across the Pacific in early December 1941 to equip Canadian troops Hong Kong and the ship pulled into the Philippines because they couldn’t get to their destination when suddenly a large enemy navy was between them and their destination.
      So they were used by troops with no training or doctrine for them and no maintenance or supply system while facing a much better equipped and prepared enemy and used them in roles they weren’t designed for.

    • @jamestheotherone742
      @jamestheotherone742 4 года назад +1

      @@88porpoise A bunch were built in India too. I'm not sure where they went though, mid or far East.

  • @SgtMjr
    @SgtMjr 4 года назад +3

    My Uncle CSM W.E. Bird RWR was KIA in one of these 25 Sept '44 near Calais. Bringing up ammo he was directing the driver where to go when he was shot by a sniper. There was a warning message sent to avoid the lanes near the orchard where the action was but sadly Uncle Bill didn't get the note. In a scene much like in Saving Private Ryan the sniper was caught and almost executed on the spot but was spared. Turned out he was a Lithuanian not a German and was kept as helper and servant before eventually being sent to the POW cages.

  • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
    @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 года назад +30

    We didn’t like them because of the lack of machine guns. For sure you can get at least four .30 cals and two .50 cals mounted on it. 😀🇺🇸👍

    • @peterwallace1398
      @peterwallace1398 4 года назад +3

      A bit like this? natlib.govt.nz/records/22840176?search%5Bi%5D%5Bsubject%5D=New+Zealand.+Army.+2nd+NZEF.+Battalion%2C+28th&search%5Bil%5D%5Bsubject%5D=Universal+carrier+%28Armoured+military+vehicle%29&search%5Bpath%5D=photos&search%5Btext%5D=battalion

    • @peterwallace1398
      @peterwallace1398 4 года назад +3

      or this? www.pinterest.nz/pin/708261478870789735/visual-search/?cropSource=6&h=406&w=530&x=15&y=10

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 4 года назад +1

      Peter Wallace That’s the spirit! But surely there can be more. 😀

    • @michaelmolloy365
      @michaelmolloy365 2 года назад +1

      They can also carry four people with surf boards, Heaps of beer and steaks as well as any camping gear you need for a surfing weekend where nobody else can get to! lol

    • @lostinpa-dadenduro7555
      @lostinpa-dadenduro7555 2 года назад

      @@michaelmolloy365 Hmm. Ok it’s starting to grow on me when you explain it like that. 👍

  • @pcka12
    @pcka12 4 года назад +5

    During WW1 horses and mules were used in vast numbers to haul everything including artillery around, in the 20 year interval between the wars the use of equines in peacetime activities fell drastically and the British Army changed into a mechanized force (interestingly the majority of the German army did not become mechanised).
    The British used lorries (trucks) artillery tractors and these things which follow on from the use of some WW1 tanks as freight vehicles to support the rapid advances made possible by those tanks which were fitted with guns.
    Whilst as always in war men suffered at least the carnage suffered by horses in previous conflicts was greatly reduced since horses have been just too vulnerable in war once 'modern ' weapons were developed.

  • @Jonahch2v9
    @Jonahch2v9 4 года назад +3

    Canadian War Museum in Ottawa has a flamethrower version. (I think it was called Wasp)

  • @sandgrownun66
    @sandgrownun66 4 года назад +8

    As well as the UK and Canada. These were also built in Australia, New Zealand and the USA.

  • @tutnallman
    @tutnallman 3 года назад +4

    I was privileged to spend some days with Sidney Jary. During this we discussed the use of the "bren Carrier" by the infantry. typically it carried their Kit- Large pack equivalent, resupplied ammunition, ferried hot food forward- even in contact, and removed casualties to company aid post . It enabled the infantry to fight more effectively. It was very reliable and they felt they couldn't function without it. Sidney was a wonderful man by the way.

  • @MrDeadsr
    @MrDeadsr 4 года назад +10

    The Germans also used them, they even found some on the eastern front

  • @muchasgracias6976
    @muchasgracias6976 4 года назад +6

    That moustache seems to have grown a David Fletcher!

  • @hugoshobbies1688
    @hugoshobbies1688 4 года назад +20

    05:55 "and also in Canada... wich is another country..." I thought he would let it stand like that. Like: "there are other countries than Great Britain, but there's no need to talk about them at all"

    • @kyle857
      @kyle857 4 года назад

      You know Canada is spelled with a C right? Or am I missing a joke?

    • @hugoshobbies1688
      @hugoshobbies1688 4 года назад +1

      @@kyle857 yeah, thanks. I knew something was looking odd. In germany we write it like I did. Some differences between languages are pretty small.

  • @yellowjackboots2624
    @yellowjackboots2624 4 года назад +8

    David Fletcher identifies as a universal carrier. The man's a cultural zeitgeist.

  • @paulwallis7586
    @paulwallis7586 3 года назад +2

    The Boyes anti-tank rifle got a new lease of life among the Aussies at Tobruk. Useless as an anti-tank weapon, but with "a lot of stopping power" against infantry, according to my old man.

  • @roboaten6931
    @roboaten6931 4 года назад +5

    "Without an engine, the thing's absolutely useless." Why do I feel like l have been told off? What an absolute legend.

  • @voiceofraisin3778
    @voiceofraisin3778 4 года назад +1

    He didn't mention one of the greatest features about the Bren carrier. Its built using Carden-Lloyd suspension which was common around the world and was in full industrial production with spares available everywhere. the engine was a commercial ford V8 for trucks, the gearbox was standard civilian commercial.
    The universal carrier was designed to be built with as many off the shelf standard commercial parts as was physically possible, the rest of it was just a welded steel box and some seats.
    Everything about it was simple, cheap, easily available and didn't take skilled engineers and production capacity away from more vital war work.
    Compare the engineering needed for a sdkfz 250 suspension and steering against a Universal carrier. Theres a reason this thing is most produced armoured vehicle in history.

  • @lavrentivs9891
    @lavrentivs9891 4 года назад +4

    A private group vehicle collection in northern Sweden has one that was used by a power company for maintenance in areas without roads.

  • @harryjohnson9215
    @harryjohnson9215 2 года назад +2

    I'm not sure but I think my great grandad used one of them in el alimain

  • @jameswright3932
    @jameswright3932 4 года назад +4

    David Fletcher... what a gent.. a star! Thank you sharing all your incredible knowledge.. captivating!!!

  • @JLSMaytham
    @JLSMaytham 3 года назад +1

    The only thing my Dad ever told me about his war experience (Essex Regiment, North Africa and Italy) was that these things were useless for anything beyond bringing up supplies!

  • @minuteman4199
    @minuteman4199 4 года назад +4

    A lot of these were used as farm utility vehicles in Canada after the war. You used to see them for sale occasionally into the 80's and 90's.

  • @northernzeus768
    @northernzeus768 3 года назад +2

    I have a close friend with a mighty tache. I call it Fletcher. He has no idea what I’m talking about but the mustache understands I’m sure.

  • @Zoydian
    @Zoydian 4 года назад +3

    I totally love Mister Fletcher's tank chats! Not only they are very informative, but I must admit I also use them as a means to relax. His voice, together with the soft hum of the airco in the background are a recipe for inner peace... thank you, Mister David Fletcher!

  • @kevinstewart449
    @kevinstewart449 4 года назад +1

    Dad went through Sicily/Italy with RC Sigs. He always referred to it as a bren gun carrier. It was many years later that I heard the term universal carrier. Somehow carrier seems more appropriate that AFV: what could that 10mm stop?

  • @sneugler
    @sneugler 4 года назад +4

    I’ve always loved these and kettenkrads, they’re so fun

  • @nickdanger3802
    @nickdanger3802 2 года назад +1

    19,191 Universal, Tl6 Lend Leased to British Empire page 10
    35,638 UC engines page 16
    Hyperwar Lend Lease Shipments Ordnance General Supplies on line

  • @johnsabini3351
    @johnsabini3351 4 года назад +3

    Like the way he ends his presentations - no fuss "thank you very much" Old School British Gent!

  • @keithammleter3824
    @keithammleter3824 Год назад +1

    Tank Museum guy said they were made in Britain and Canada. Actually, they were made in various places. Large numbers were made in Australia, principally by the South Australian Railways Workshops. Quite a few were made in the USA, as Britain could not make enough.
    My father drove one in Australian Army service in North Africa. He said they were a typical British military design - inadequate space for the driver, uncomfortable, prone to breakdown, must have been designed by a committee.

  • @elistickband
    @elistickband 4 года назад +3

    I once drove that one when I worked at MVEE/FVRDE Chobham. Always wondered what happened to it.

  • @alastairbarkley6572
    @alastairbarkley6572 3 года назад +1

    A go-anywhere Jeep with much better crew protection. What's not to like? BTW, the American made M-29 Weasel (made in much smaller numbers) was something different - for semi-amphibious and Arctic operations. The M-29 suffered bad overheating issued In the European theatre which might explain why it got deployed elsewhere.

  • @johnalan6067
    @johnalan6067 4 года назад +15

    At 2:35, did the driver forget to put it into park?
    Stops car, gets out of car, goes into the store, see car slowly roll past down the little hill, runs after car.

    • @adm0iii
      @adm0iii 4 года назад +12

      I think that was intended. To deliver his two passenger soldiers into an active firefight, the driver races the vehicle forward, the passengers climb out, and the driver backs out his thin-skinned exposed vehicle as quickly as possible, even to the point of switching into reverse before they've fully exited, all while simultaneously helping dismount the vehicle's gun to hand off to the soldiers.

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 3 года назад

      Good ambush or recon vehicle, I wonder if they were quiet though?

    • @petegarnett7731
      @petegarnett7731 Год назад

      @@jimdavis8391 They actually clanked a bit. You could pretend to be a tank if you had a solid ebough hedge to hide behind. Then you jumped out and hit their tank witha PIAT and finished of the crew with a sten. It's strange how effective all those inferior little British gimmicky weapons were.

  • @michaelvalenzuela2528
    @michaelvalenzuela2528 Месяц назад +1

    I`ve called the "Bren Carrier" ever since I built the AIRFIX kit around 1970.

  • @billb0313
    @billb0313 4 года назад +3

    I see Fletcher's mustache I click. The tank discussion is just a bonus.

  • @kurt5490
    @kurt5490 3 года назад +1

    Can someone please confirm or debunk the rumor that Erwin Rommel loved to capture universal carriers. They were used to tow the 57(?)mm anti tank guns and mechanize infantry. Supposedly the Italian infantry that was part of the Afrika corps loved them. Any info?

  • @zxbzxbzxb1
    @zxbzxbzxb1 4 года назад +3

    Would love to drive one of those to work each day, in summertime at least

  • @SportbikerNZ
    @SportbikerNZ 4 года назад +2

    These universal carriers always make me think of an open toolbox with cramped compartments that stuff doesn't fit into quite right.

  • @gregmottl9782
    @gregmottl9782 Год назад +1

    My grandfather in Canada after the war. Purchased a Bren gun carrier. I know a little difrent then the Universal. He cut all the armor off and turned it into a flat deck tracked vehicle to use for moose hunting. With a winch set up in the back to winch a moose on. And to be able to get into the swampy areas while hunting. He used it right up into the 70s. Always wonder what ever happened to it. I am sure most likely was scrapped sometime after he stopped using it.

  • @billestew7535
    @billestew7535 Год назад +1

    Just 2 of these vehicles armed with Vickers.303 machine guns as well as Bren guns could give smaller infantry units withering fire support, but my favorite version is the wasp flamethrower vehicle, as dangerous for the crew as it was to the enemy seeing as it had a large fuel tank in the back of the vehicle, the Germans hated it.

  • @TheSpritz0
    @TheSpritz0 4 года назад +1

    I'd like to add I DID get to sit in a Bren-Gun carrier at CFB Shilo when I was in the Army, it seemed to be built for a smaller world- I'm only 5 foot 11 and in the Army I was BARELY 160lb soaking wet but damn it was very difficult to get seated... and I could get into all the "supposed" tight fitting sports cars like Fiats and MGB's that were so popular back then (1980's).

  • @douglasparkinson4123
    @douglasparkinson4123 3 года назад +2

    this is brilliant. a BREN gun , an anti material rifle in a slightly rmoured machine thats capable of carrying 3-4 people. that gives you one mroe peice of armour on the battlefield, a bren gun, an anti material gun. the brilliance of this is the required crew to use this would normally be one BREN gun or At rifle crew, while now they are able to do both and provide armour support.

  • @gordonhoran4373
    @gordonhoran4373 2 года назад +1

    I think the Canadian army had the highest percentage of these, the Canadian 1st division in Italy used them to great advantage and yes we towed everything with them, they were a very light vehicle with a lot of power and huge drawbar potential, I drove one years ago and really you couldn't have more fun unless you took your clothes off

  • @jjsmallpiece9234
    @jjsmallpiece9234 4 года назад +1

    So were Airfix wrong to make a Universal Carrier and 6pdr AT gun model!! I think not

  • @tomsemmens6275
    @tomsemmens6275 4 года назад +2

    1,300 were also manufactured in NZ...

    • @Colonel_Blimp
      @Colonel_Blimp 4 года назад

      They were built in the Railway Workshops. When I started on the railway in 1974 there were old war built flat wagons called Matildas as well though I think they mostly conveyed Valentines.

  • @FeldwebelWolfenstool
    @FeldwebelWolfenstool 4 года назад +2

    I've heard that after the war they tried to use them in North Ontario as skidders to haul logs around in the bush. Apparently there are abandoned carcasses of them out there in the woods, abandoned after they broke down...

  • @Theogenerang
    @Theogenerang 4 года назад +1

    Mid mounted Ford V8 engine. Makes me wonder what Carroll Shelby could do with one of these.

  • @gurtsmunta1
    @gurtsmunta1 4 года назад +1

    Fabulous talk on my favourite tracked vehicle thank you.

  • @tomn.9879
    @tomn.9879 3 года назад +1

    If I were a cartoonist and I wanted to draw an Englishman, I’d draw this guy.

  • @bobbyhood101
    @bobbyhood101 4 года назад +2

    The uni was used by everyone , literally every allied army including the Russians, and every axis military Germans, Italians, and the Japanese!

  • @michaelfirth548
    @michaelfirth548 4 года назад +2

    Some footage shows Australian LP2 models distinguished by 4 tool boxes on the back and a raised air intake behind the driver

  • @chippledon1
    @chippledon1 4 года назад +1

    Almost like the M113 of the 2nd world war.

  • @Skorpychan
    @Skorpychan 4 года назад +1

    They look like they're really fun to drive.

  • @alcoles9660
    @alcoles9660 4 года назад +2

    These long videos are excellent. Some previous Tank Chats episodes were too short and left out so many details. Not to mention that I could listen to Mr. Fletcher talking about water tanks for hours and still be amazed.
    Thanks to the Tank Museum staff and David Fletcher MBE.