When Final Fantasy Almost Had Separate Versions Like Pokémon
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Final Fantasy X-2 was the first video game sequel to a Final Fantasy game, but Square actually planned for there to be two games, as opposed to one. The first was meant to be focussed on Yuna, with the second focussed on Rikku.
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Rikku story: “Yeah, but I met him first”.
This would change the tone of FFX-2 Final Mission and would also make many other fans of the game seethe
when Tidus has a dream of being on the pier in Besaid it's clear he's still thinking of Rikku and a bit torn? so i could see this being a thing
😂😂😂
@@Esirre
What ??? 🤨
@@shizukagozen777it happened
I always felt Rikku had main protagonist vibes and she can definitely star in her own game or own perspective of events.
She’s a precocious genius kid who is neither annoying or arrogant. And she’s from an oppressed class.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437she is annoying
Right? This looks like a totally missed opportunity for a great story.
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You can tell the development team really loved Rikku. Even though the game really focuses on the back lore of Paine, Rikku's actions during her time without Yuna are mentioned all throughout it.
I think the most telling is that she clearly had a love interest with Gippal, and it's very clear in ffx2 that he ended up really falling into wanting to pursue her again despite being the reason they broke up. They added a lot of hints to Rikku's effect in the world of Spira. Her design change was also the most drastic, and they used her as a secondary cover girl for the series advertisements.
And then again with her return in the last mission once again bringing more world lore. It would've been nice to see them give her more spotlight since she is so loved... but I get that story wise, she would have overshadowed Yuna because she's far more dynamic. They do this to Vanille in ff13 as well...😢
The rare scene between Rikku and Yuna ontop of the airship in X2 proves that as yuna promised to at it’d be Rikku’s story next. And that it’s her turn. As “it’s not about me anymore. I want it to be all about you Rikku” or something like that. And asking her what she wanted her own story to be about
Damn, not only Rikku got shafted by not being playable in Dissidia Final Fantasy Opera Omnia for so long, but she got shafted way before X-2 was a thing gahddamn
Dissidia is ending in February of 2024 (end of month, beginning March 2024, Final Fantasy Dissidia Opera Omnia will be shut down completely. There was even a message from the developer about it.
Really wishing Rikku was in though. They foreshadowed her as a tease but never put her in.
@@DarknessXxMaster Ironically, my favorite Dissidia. Really wish they released an offline version.
Shafting rikku was all I wanted to do as a very confused 13 yr old boy 😂
She got shafted for Kingdom Hearts as well, due to how confusing having two characters of the same name would be.
I'm actually so upset we didn't get this ngl, Rikku is my favourite character, always wished I could run around the map as her.
Yuna had the most annoying run, even my sister was like “girls don’t run like that “ 😂
@@LazyTallGuy yeah the run is weird 🤣
@@LazyTallGuy maybe it’s depicting the lengths anime go to to give a character as loud of body language as possible lol
Yeah, Rikku was, & is really kewl, 1 of my favorite FF characters ... super cute, super kewl nerdy girly-girl
(Yes, I'm a lil weebish X_X; & yes, I had a big thing for Rikku back in the day... kinda wish there were still ladies like her in the real world .... yakno... Kind-hearted, cute, sweet & generally really fun to be around ... )
We could only run with her in last mission and at the luca prologue
I imagine Rikku's game being more focus on Gippal and the whole war and machinery of Vegnagun and Yuna's just FFX-2 but maybe more focus on Nooje and Baralai confrontation
That would have been amazing! I really hope if there’s an X-3 it focuses on Gippal, Baralai and Nooj’s backstory too because they were brilliant additions to Spira.
@@francescagreetham1804 Finally an interesting idea. Most of the time i just hear people saying they want a prequel with Braska, Auron and Jecht. Im like while i do like those three, we kinda already know how their adventure went. Personally I'd rather them tell a story taking place during the Machina War 1000 years ago, but this is a cool idea as well
@@ThundagaT2 Oo focusing on the Machina war would be really interesting too!
Thank you - I really enjoyed those 3+ Paine and feel like their story could easily be expanded on. Spira is a really interesting world and there’s a lot that could be done that focuses on other characters.
I’d also be happy with something that focused on Rin and Shinra and that rumour about FFX/X-2 connecting to FFVII but that would probably be highly controversial. 😂
@@francescagreetham1804 Yeah I was kinda hoping they would bring mention to something relating to FFX/FFX-2 with FF7R but i kinda doubt it lol.
@@ThundagaT2
FFX-0 Original Sin
Features heavily:
Yunalesca
Lord Zaon
Yu Yevon
Shuyin
Lenne
Focusing on the final days of the Machina war between Bevelle and Zanarkand.
Give it the Halo 2 treatment where it switches between two protagonists on opposite sides each learning a worldview shattering truth. They'll need to develop the Bevelle faction more heavily to do that.
The origins of Sin, Dream Zanarkand, and Yevon etc. Same for Vegnagun.
Then give it an FF7 Crisis Core & Halo Reach type vibe of noble tragedy, doomed inevitability and massive foreshadowing etc.
Done right they could make it able to be played independently and be a hook point into the FFX series.
THEN do the Auron, Jecht, Braska prequel.
I would have enjoy playing as Rikku.
X-2 was like Final Fantasy meets Sailor Moon and I was livinnnnnnnngggggg
Forreal it was soo amazing. ! I’m so tired of these ff 7 remakes. I need them to Tackle this a bit more 😢
Agreed I love that game 🖤
Liiiiviiiing
@@maishaprice2982 trash take. FF7 is far superior to X-2
@@Xeno_Solarushow is that a bad take? Instead of giving attention to the same game constantly, why not focus on another one? Even FF6 was better than FF7 in all honesty lmao.
If X-2 was released just a few years later with the release of the PSP I could see Rikku's side being a PSP version with Yuna's being on PS2 (. ❛ ᴗ ❛.)
nah psp is too weak for a massive ps2 game like ffx2
@@longvuhoang8499 Crisis core was literally on psp. Sure it wouldnt have been a straight up port, but a very close version couldve easily been made for the psp. (also monster hunter FU was on the psp which is arguably bigger than FFX-2)
If they did the same approach as they did in Crisis Core it could work
no you couldnt, theyd never do that
@@kidrobot. Crisis Core and Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep are on PSP. Why wouldn’t they?
I wished they just added some bits of Rikku's perspective. Maybe some sphere's like we got of Paine's past. And others like how talking to NPCs played a large part in FFx-2. Maybe Brother or Shinra spilling bits about Rikku.
The pesky thief and lovable chemist monk would been perfect protagonist
At the end of X-2 yuna promised rikku that the next adventure would be about her. I really wish there was a rikku spin off tho
It would be cool if X-3 actually had her as the main protagonist and added more development for her while still having Tidua and Yuna be the central focus of the overarching storyline. Rikku has always had potential as a main protagonist.
that woulda been awesome. rikku is one of my all time favorite ff characters
Some changes to the monster capturing mechanics and you basically have a pokemon game. Also Last Mission is Mystery Dungeon... Now I think the developers just wanted to make a pokemon game
Mystery Dungeon isn't just a Pokémon spinoff, it started as a Dragon Quest spinoff. Even so, that genre (Roguelike) existed long before then
# 0001 I mean 13-2 was that as well.
🤔 come to think of it some of the character designs look like they'd fit in
The Japanese version had extra dresspheres. We didn't get them in the USA. It is featured in the original strategy guide. Beside the outfits it said it was for Japan only.
If you get the ps vita FFX and X2 remastered, you get all of the dresspheres. I have the USA version but I think it's from the international version back in the day that had all of spheres.
It was not the original Japanese version, it was the International + Last Mission version, an updated version in the same vein as Kingdom Hearts Final Mix.
@@PMbarbieri thanks for reminding me. It's been years.
it’s available on ps4. playing through it now
Man, kinda similar to DFFOO's JP version, which was about 6 months or so ahead of the GL (global) version. 😞
It would have been fun seeing how Rikku felt about the events of X and how she was dealing with the lost of Tidus as well. See what regrets she had, hidden thoughts she never let out. Honestly i would have liked having the 2 perspectives
All it really needed was giving Rikku a big objective similar to what Yuna was up to. but Yuna's was... pretty phenomenal. She pretty much breaks the universe to restore Tidus to life.
What would Rikku have to compare to that???
I did notice hints of this in the story though. Certain parts of the story of the game we did get have Rikku as the main driving force of a mission.
Also the entire mission structure itself in FFX-2 seems designed to make the game modular so they can swap out parts more easily.
My whole brain disintegrating thinking of having to 100% this god forsaken game twice.
Not gonna lie…. I would’ve had both versions on preorder the moment they opened up orders for them. The cast of FFX are iconic and have a special place in my heart along with the music and storytelling. Definitely plan to introduce my future kids and nieces/nephews to Final Fantasy through X all the way.
I do have a special connection with this game too. I've own every re-release copy.
prepare your heart to be crushed. they will never understand what made this game so great for our generation. certain titels changed the history of gaming and how it felt to witness this in the zeitgeist can not be explained D;
X-2 was my first FF game and X was the 2nd. They both hold a special place in my heart despite what many people say about X-2
@@championanthony7643 That's the big deal with FF that people refuse to admit. Your first one is a groundbreaking experience and often your entry point to JRPGs, everything that follows just cannot have that "magic" again, especially other final fantasy titles.
That is why final fantasy fans tend to be super critical of late FFs. Most people started either with 7 or 10.
Aww, that's nice.
Even though I don't mind the X-2 we got I'm curious to see how the version thing would have played out. Especially sine Rikku is my favorite character in X. I'm surprised the actual Pokemon Final Fantasy didn't have two versions
It would play out like the secret scene between Yuna and Rikku ontop of the airship where they have a long talk about various things including asking Rikku what she wanted to do as it’ll be about her when all the FFX2 story gets finished so to speak. If you haven’t seen it you really should!❤
I fell hard for Rikku when she stood up to Wakka and pointed out that blindly following religious teachings without thinking for yourself is not the way to go.
how innocent. i fell hard for her when she started removing her al bhed gear when she and Tidus were reunited
this kills me since 2003, I have never forgot it, no matter what others said, despite SquareEnix said it was just "rumors", I knew they really meant it, there is a reason why Yuna tells to Rikku: "Next time it's your story Rikku", two decades passed by and now I'm working on "Final Fantasy X-2.8: Rikku's Story" with a team
How's the progress going?
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There's still a chance X-3 could happen since the story is already established.
Would be stupid to do it, X-2 shouldn’t have even happened.. X was a masterpiece and should have been left alone..
@@Primitive01X is just okay. X-2 gameplay wise shits on X.
@@jughcorey What do you mean gameplay wise? The battle system or the overall gameplay in general?
The story is shit, which is what FF is all about.. The cheesy little girl vibe is shit, and weird considering it’s a main line title.. Went from probably the best opening sequence in a FF game in X from the start until you get to Besaid, to some weird shit finding out Brother wants to be a girl, Yuna is a Japanese style teen pop star and the games version of Sephiroth/Seymour/Kuja is Leblanc and her “goons”..
In terms of gameplay yeah, the battle system flows which is more engaging and fun.. The dress sphere system was quite cool, one thing X probably could have done differently was it’s levelling and equipment systems even though they’re unique and work, most people obviously prefer a more role based system, but that’s all I can think of..
The mission system is horrible, the chapter system is horrible, the % of completion thing is horrible especially considering a ton of it is tied to pointless trekking to every single area in every chapter to have some pointless conversation or do a pointless and boring thing.. And then you get rewards/endings BASED on wether you wasted all that time.. I was 14 when it released, I got the guide book too, can’t imagine how many people never saw the better endings until years after release either through following guides on the internet or just watching it on RUclips or something.. I know the end game of X is a grind, a SERIOUS grind, but it’s all completely optional and not tied to the main game, you generally don’t start the end game until you’ve reached the final save point, the game is done, you’ve seen everything there is to see and you miss out on nothing wether you decide to do the end game or not.. If good gameplay to you is having to sit there for 10 minutes listening to Maechen multiple times throughout the game or watching countless comm spheres countless times or having to read a guide to say the right things to people for the calm lands mission then fine, but I find all that shit more boring.. I try to play through the game once in a blue moon but I just can’t, I get bored, while I can and do play through X once every few years, end game and all..
No disrespect but whenever I see someone saying X-2 is a good game I just automatically assume they’re either female or real life Brothers..
@@jughcoreyX-2 is notoriously one of the worst entries in the FF series whereas X is regarded as one of the best, if not the best outright.
@@GrappleHeavy93 i enjoyed x2, the music was good and the battle system was fun. i do agree though despite my feelings about x2, x was the best ff game ive ever played...its been like a drug high for me..every ff game ive played since x hasnt been able to live up to x in regard to characters, depth, overworld, story ect. ffx is the best game square has ever made
The ffx 2 should be the story with the three headleaders lord braska jecht and auron and show us how these three did everything that the ffx shows us piece by piece so it should be the story before ffx
X-2 doesn't get nearly enough love from the fanbase. Literally my favorite single-player FF game.
I loved X-2 since the very beginning when I ran the game for the first time, right after beating X and watching the cutscene in between where you see Yuna about to embark on her next journey. And when I heard that song on the opening credits I felt like I was watching the opening of the second season of a tv series. A purely magical moment 😊
i’m still sad and upset that we didn’t get this, as a Rikku stan. i would have loved this, hopefully we can get a remake in the future and play as her
What's crazy is this game is 20 years old and I still haven't beat it yet😊
i beat i once on vita, and not going to coming back, to cringe for my age now 😅
its installed on my pc but never open it just because many people said the story is bad, destroy the beauty of FFX bad
I don't think it's that bad just very "level up" driven and time consuming for side quests and other things excessive even for a final fantasy game@@dsenvy
@@dsenvy
Playyy it.
I beated in 2008 when i was 6 years old.
i feel we got robbed of the Rikku story.
Seems like somebody kept this idea and eventually used it to give Yuffie her own DLC in Remake. Super cool that they considered Rikku to be this important
Depending on how much they decided to take from pokemon, then one of the biggest possible differences, besides those in the story, might've been version exclusive job classes. Which, makes it interesting to think of who would've gotten what.
This actually really sucks. I woulda bought both of them in a heartbeat! I LOVE Yuna and Rikku! But then again this woulda started a dangerous trend for Square Enix.
They basically did it with yuna with ffx-2 and i didn’t see any issue with it other than the execution; it was a little too Charlie’s angels not serious enough
Sora watching this: RIKU!
Thank you for your time. I'll see myself out.
Everyone hating on 10-2 makes no sense.
Amazing combat and a fun story.
I would play a Rikku game for sure
Holy Yevon I never knew of this fact!! Now that would have been interesting and a part of me almost believes in this one rumor from years back how they were trying to do a third Final Fantasy 10 but with Rikku as the protagonist
Rikku having her own game would be so sick
Considering X-2 starts with the misdirect of somebody pretending to be Yuna.
I can kind of see that as possibly an event that was going to happen in both games to add a lot of mystery as to why they at odds with each other.
So I can kind of see it.
Rikku's perspective would have been interesting!! Can't imagine the side quests we would have gotten, but I'm sure it would have been fun!! I hope we get more FFX content in the future, 8-y-o me yearns for more content ( ᴗ͈ˬᴗ͈)
Rikku was always my favorite in the series such a fun character
I remember reading an article in one of those video game magazines back in like 2002 or something that they were going to release alternate versions of FFX one following Rikki and another following Yuna. Seeing the story through their eyes. Then a few years later X-2 came out and was like ok I can see how they got here but wasn’t what I initially thought it was going to be.
Probably the most important broadcast for every young man to see.
Poor paine
My thoughts too haha. Unless she wasn't planned on these versions of a FFX sequel
Over 20 years later and I still have this game.
I just started a new playthrough last week
Awwww she so deserves that! If I had to guess, the possibility of getting Tidus back was *such* a powerful motivator to get the plot moving in Yuna's story, and it would have been very difficult for them to create something anywhere near as compelling for Rikku's (at least to the point that a significant chunk of players would actually opt for her version).
I was in my late teens when FFX 2 came out and Rikku distracted me a lot.
That would've been cool if we are to play as rikku. We'll learn more about the al bhed culture in her perspective
I would have immediately bought the rikku version and never looked back
Playing as Rikku would have been awesome but I know that if this happened I would have gone with the Yuna version😅
Same 😅
I think thats probably why theu didnt do it. They didnt want to lose money by having one outperform the other...
I love Paine. She was my favorite character in X-2.
Rikku stands out as creative unique character so this would've been interesting
Give us the OG cut!
I loved Yuna...i would've bought both 😂 they better have added some difference
Aww man! A story with Rikku being the MP would’ve been awesome! But tbh, they should’ve gave Paine her own story and made her the MP since we hardly knew anything about her
I still hate that they changed it from the turn based system of FFX to the ATB system I hate, which is the sole reason I still have yet to beat X-2
And now after so many years, rikku wont even be casted on dffoo..
Only rikku people know now is that punk from kh.
I’d love a game that shares some of Paine’s backstory and maybe how her and Lu are from the same place hence their blood red eyes.
The saddest thing about these childhood games is that these characters aren't real.
They're real to ME!
I honestly have a final fantasy type story planned in my head with two versions of it, and yeah it could be really fun !
Actually there's a lot random haters hate this game LOL(cause they don't accept Yuna new personalities or new system)
But this is my Favorite game all of time i play 3 times even they already lvl99
Most fun is collecting Coin monster, Cactuar, and Sphere.
They could still do it, but they should also add it from Paine’s perspective.
They actually did it, remember the prologue you play as Rikku, from her perspective until you meet Yuna
I love Yuna, and I enjoyed X-2 mostly, but Rikku would have been a banging main protagonist, especially as an older character.
It's not too late Square!
Rikku has enough charisma to star her own game or become a Final Fantasy kinda mascot.
I say we give her the chance
Rikku deserves her own spin off or back story going into Yuna and how they are related and why is brother such a creep.
Rikku really set a mold for me. Skinny blondes are the caviar of women. 🔥
X & X-2 has so much replay value even until this day
I just hope Final Fantasy X, 8 and 6 get a much needed remake
I agree, especially for 6. The pastel-remaster looks worse than the original, imo. Also, if they were to remake 8 I'd love if they disabled enemies leveling up with you. Turning them into cards to strengthen your GFs was tedious, but I liked the junction-system and the characters. Sorry for rambling. Have a nice day🙌
@@mariareiter5349 totally agree , 8 gameplay could be fixed along with oarts of the story
X doesn't need a remake. It's been remastered for nearly every existing console already.
I have it on ps3, ps4 (honestly don't know why at this point) and Switch. I HAD them on ps2 as their individual games before I sold it lol.
It doesn't need to be remade, they'll only be able to add pointless padding and remove elements people love.
Or they'll do the FF7 sequel approach of claiming to be a remake while it's actually not. At all. I was suckered in by the first one. It would have been an awesome NEW installment from the series if they reskinned the protagonists.
@@Nolascana youre entitled to your wrong opinion
@@nairbdelrey1561 Oh feck off.
It's a different opinion, not wrong.
If they remake any more of the ff series they remake them. If they don't they don't.
And yes, unless far less people buy the ff7remake sequels each time, it's going to be just as much a success as usual. Nothing I say will change that. I'm a person that's bought the original ff7 multiple times, and a couple of it's sequels. Don't hate the franchise, just dislike the remake.
Whenever I see Rikku I am reminded of my deep crush on her back when I was 16. I remember flipping through a gaming magazine just outside the lunch cafeteria at my high school. It was a full page art of the one of her on the disk cover. I was smitten. Love at first sight. I just had to have the game. Desperately so. Honestly even now I can remember the game as being quite enjoyable. It was fanservice from start to finish, but it was fun and even had wholesome moments.
I imagine the gameplay would have been quite similar, with the main difference being cutscenes being different, because Rikku may have gone off to do her own thing and had different experiences. Hopefully they would also give her different gameplay sections as well. Part of me thinks that's an exciting idea, and another part of me is glad they abandoned it, whatever it was like.
Maybe if it was a full fledged side-story with nothing in common with Yuna's game, that would have been better.
Based on the secret scene between Yuna and Rikku on top of the airship… there already was a huge opening for Rikku’s story to be next. Which could go into some really cool directions. Literally telling Rikku that it can be all about her next time and that she wishes it to be so ! Check the scene out
I think it could have been fun to play Rikku, especially after they concluded Tidus and Yuna.
Rikku needs her own story. It would of been stupid to do same story but under rikkus eyes because the group are together pretty much the whole time.
Wouldn't mind a FFX game of Rikku being a protagonist.🥰
I want a Rikku game! Let her get that hunky guy she spoke about in Chapter 4 of X-2!
Rikku is like the proto-Balthier of X. Protagonist that never made it
I feel like this approach of two separate protagonists would work well if it was like kingdom hearts birth by sleep where the the three main characters had their own playable campaigns with the story almost being the same but with different viewpoints and endings
I imagine each one would have had only one story, instead of the route split in the final game
Okay but honestly, Rikku is a great character and she could totally be the main character in a game
Couldve been cool. Rikku is arguably the better character. I use arguably loosely here, because she's clearly the more entertaining character even in the original game.
She is the better character. Nobody wants to address the fact that Yuna never really makes decisions or life changes for herself BY herself. She's very weak willed in general and although she has a lot of growth it's very ironically main character syndrome and she comes off very coddled cause of everything she has at her disposal. Without Tidus or Rikku she would have never grew as much. Yunas personality in X2 seems like a mixture of natural growth, adopting what she remembered of Tidus personality and Rikkus influence.
Rikku is the most thematically consistent character in X, perhaps even more so than Tidus. If they do a 3rd game i hope she gets the spotlight
Would have been Iconic to see Rikku as another point of view ❤ My Soul
They didn't know the power of DLC's yet
It’s never too late they can always be a remake then the two corresponding dlc
Imagine doing this for Ardyn and Noctis
This could of worked if they hadn't really forced the Titus/Yuna relationship, if they had split it where you could of gone with Yuna or Rikku then that would of given you the good excuse for both perspectives, but since its more focused on Yuna it would of made little sence to do it
I enjoyed ffX-2 it’s arguably one of my favorites in the series. I always wished it wasn’t so sort…it left you wanting more. I would’ve like this too if it’d happened. I keep thinking that ffX-3 will come out one day. FfX universe is my top five favorite game ever. Right there with ff6, ff8, ff4, and 6…
And then they decided to add Paine...
Also like the idea there would have been a 3rd game much later that had a Payne story perspective.
Honestly I do get scrapping this idea because unfortunately I can see how this might make development more difficult and costly and if 10-2 didnt sell well then the money spent wouldnt be made back
FF8 and FFX are my favorite games from the franchise. I never played FFX-2 but absolutely would have if they had followed through with this plan. I'm amazed the fan community hasn't modded a Rikku version. It would've been even more interesting if they had an additional variation for Paine. I'll get around to playing it eventually but it's near the bottom of my list.
10-2 is such a unique thing in ff history
X-2 combat/job class system I love so much. I know the story is not so A+
Nier Automata basically does this
Final Fantasy X-2: Yuna, & Rikku
I'd love this, and also a prequel where we can play ad Jecht/Braska/Auron.
I'm guessing FFX-2: New Yevon vs FFX-2: Youth League
Paine: am i a joke to you?
Rikku & Yuna: yup!
This does make a little sense to me since a handful of people tend to not like X-2 if the game just kind of smashes these two perspectives together instead of going with their original plan makes sense as to why it could be weird for some people
I suppose in the Rikku version, it would be canon that Rin was the villain whereas in the Yuna version, it would be Rikku's fault just because that's actually how the 100 percent completion goes because they thought it was too unfair to require Rin villainy to unlock the 'better ending'. In that case, perhaps in the Rikku version it would have been much easier to unlock the Rin villainy outcome.
I need a fanfic where an FFX fan isekai'd into FFX world after Yuna's story (FFX-2) and just go on an adventure with Rikku. Or, no, just let Rikku have her own story without anyone isekai'd or anything
BRO! RIKKU! As the protagonist!? I would've been sssooooo down!
That's not what Pokémon does. This is more like if the paths in Seiken Densetsu 3/Secret of Mana 2 had been 3 games.
I mean they brought back Rikku in the World of Final Fantasy.