DCS: CH-47F | Introduction & Simple Cold Start
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- In this DCS video, I’m pleased to introduce you to our CH-47F and instruct you on how to start it up. Please note that the cold start instructions are valid for July 2024 but may change during development during the early access period.
The CH-47F is a powerful and fast heavy-lift helicopter with a tandem rotor arrangement that can operate at high elevations. It has a long and distinguished service dating back decades, but our CH-47F is based on one operating in the 2011 to 2013 period. It has the capability to haul internal loads, including infantry, pallets, small vehicles, and it’s capable of moving large cargo using the external triple cargo hook system. It is powered by two T55-GA-714A engines that are each rated at 4,869 shaft horse power. You call, we haul!
For self-defense, the CH-47F includes side-door and tail ramp gunners. It will also include a radar warning receiver, a missile warning system, and countermeasures. Please note that some of these will be included later in the early access period.
The CH-47F is an exceptionally easy and natural helicopter to fly and includes a force trim system to alleviate sustained controlled forces on the cyclic and pedals. The Digital Advanced Flight Control System, DAFCS, will see feature additions during early access development like the flight director.
As the mission of the CH-47F centers around transport, you’ll also be able to load and unload cargo.
Let’s jump into the cockpit now. The pilot sits here in the right seat and the co-pilot sits in the left seat. Both seats feature cyclic for pitch and roll control, thrust control levers for adjusting rotor lift, and directional pedals to control yaw. The pilot on the controls is responsible for flight controls during Visual Meteorological Conditions, VMC, and maintains focus outside the aircraft to navigate, maneuver against threats, and avoid terrain hazards. The co-pilot, not on the controls, has the job has all the pilot in command controls and can assist with situational awareness and manage the navigation and communication systems, among other tasks.
The cockpit can be broken down into four primary areas. The Center Console, the Canted Console with the Control Data Units, or CDUs, the Instrument Panel dominated by two Multi-Function Displays, or MFDs, for each pilot and a center, shared MFD, and the Overhead Panel. We’ll come back to these in the startup. Behind us is a mass of circuit breaks on the two Power Distribution Panels, or PDPs. Please consult the manual for a complete description of all the cockpit controls.
Okay, that’s a brief introduction and general layout of the cockpit, let’s know how we start this bird up. Again, though, as the module develops, some of this may change.
You can find a comprehensive list of all the interior prechecks, but for the sake of keeping this video short as possible, we’ll jump to starting up the hook.
We’ll first need to start the Auxiliary Power Unit, or APU. This is a small engine in the aircraft that we’ll use to start the two engines.
Looking up, we’ll use the overhead panel for the bulk of getting the engines started.
● Set the Battery (BATT) switch to ON.
● Verify that the UTIL PRES light is on.
● Set the APU switch to the RUN position for five seconds, then to the START position for two seconds, and then back to the RUN position.
● If you’ve successfully started the APU, the green APU RDY light will illuminate, and UTIL PRES light should extinguish within 30 seconds.
● Set the APU generator switch to ON.
Now it’s finally time to start the engines. We’ll start with engine 1 and then engine 2. It’s best to start engine 2 within three minutes of starting engine 1 to avoid engine damage.
● Set the L MAIN FUEL pump switches to ON.
● Set the XFEED switch to OPEN to allow the left tank to feed both engines fuel.
● ENG COND lever to GROUND.
● Now press and hold the ENG START switch until the Ng is greater than 12% as indicated on the Powertrain MFD page, here. You can then release the switch and the engine 1 Ng should stabilize around 55% within 45 seconds. Oil pressure for engine 1 should be greater than 5 PSI.
● We’ll now repeat these steps for engine 2, again, within three minutes of starting engine 1.
● Next, advance the ENG COND levers to FLIGHT and the NR value for the rotor both engines should be 100%.
● With both engines running up to speed, set the GEN 1 and GEN 2 generator switches to ON. Wait two seconds between turning them on.
● We can now turn off the APU GEN as the engine generators provide all the power we need.
● Turn off the APU.
● Finally, we’ll check that all POWERTRAIN indications are in the green.
In the next CH-47F video, we’ll learn about ground operations, taxi, and takeoff.
The home cockpit builds for this are going to be insane.
@@bmwr9tracer668 pics or gtfo
I was thinking the exact same thing haha
I wish I had the time and money to do it.
I already have some seat cushions from my old unit lmao
@@bmwr9tracer668 Out of curiosity, because I don't really understand how it works: instead of using tons of Arduinos and raspberry pi's, couldn't someone just build a separate dedicated computer to run all the instruments and displays that networks with the sim computer and processes everything in the simpit?
Thanks Wags, I’ve really been looking forward to these tutorials. It just wouldn’t be the same without your tutorials!
Thank you for your patience.
@@MattWagnerwe’re not going anywhere. When it’s done, it’s done. The Kiowa will keep me busy! 😁
Was good to hear your voice again Wags, feels like its been forever since we got a video from you. Hope all is well.
YESSSSS! My helicopter is "now" in DCS :-) Wags, I appreciate you wanted to show a "short" star-up procedure but do not forget the Power Transfer for the Hyds Flight controls before starting (otherwise impossible to centralise the controls properly ) and never move you ECLs so quickly from Ground to Flight or you will overtorque ;-) And FYI your Fuel selector is still on the refuel position. Looking forward to flying the beast in our beloved sim.
Yes, I had considered that, but not a mandatory step to start up the aircraft in the game at first launch.
@@MattWagner for the power transfer, it is mandatory because otherwise, 99% of the time, your flights controls are not "central, neutral, detent" because of the residual pressure from the previous flight, after the shutdown. IRL I have almost never seen a cab with the flight controls centralized before having the Power Transfer ON. I am flying on very old CH47 in the RAF so maybe the F model don't "suffer" from this issue ?
@damcopter dude give it a rest who cares or they will delay it again 😂
@@damcopterI used to fly a 46 and noticed that as well. I noticed he said the start up is valid as of this date. They probably have a good bit to finish yet.
@@clarkyclackers2684 There are those of us who know, and then those of us who think they know.
That noise of the rotors spooling up to idle power is amazing. It sounds so brutally powerful even at that stage of flight, can’t wait!
Finally some Ch47F content from you Wags. Nothing generates more hype than your tutorials.
It was never going to launch without daddy Wags giving us an introduction.
Wags, my man, I don't make enough money to buy everything you wonderful folks are putting out. I am a rotor head so I will get this!! I got to ride in these during my AIT at Ft. Ustis Va! It was awesome.
Fort Useless.
@@randallmacdonald4851 Even Uncle Sam Thinks It Sucks. It's where I did my AIT for 68D/16D Helicopter Powertrain Technician. Worked on Hook, Hueys, Hawk, Apaches, Kiowas(58C), and Kiowa Warriors(58D(I)).
Went to H-60 course at Eustis back in 85. It was actually a blast back then, 16 weeks during the summer. We had Drill Sergeants but it was just administrative, just to keep us soldierly and make sure the barracks were kept tidy. We had our POV's and could go on and off base as we pleased.
Amidst all the negativity , I am honestly inclined to remove my hat to the audio team. The sound modeling for this baby is fantastic.
I am so looking forward to this aircraft. I served in the mid-90s at RAF Odiham on the ground. I did some flying in the back to help out etc and I have always loved the Chinook. The woka woka has a presence all of its own. I wonder how many people have felt the relief of hearing that sound approaching? At night we often have them flying over my house on the way back to Odiham. Lying in bed hearing them pass over low gives this old crab a warm happy feeling.
Thanks Wags, I feel this was a long awaited return of your excellent training videos. Always good to hear your voice and the CH-47 is looking and sounding great.
I love the model and the fact that Eagle Dynamics has decided to developt it. But there seems like there are some things to be fixed before its official release. For example, the WCA should show maaaany more cautions when the APU GEN goes ON. Also the torque indications should be splitted and indicate 0 when the engines are OFF and under 40 when then the engines are in the IDLE position. There are some other stuff to be fixed as the colour code and so on but less important than those mentioned, as well as more steps in the start up procedure like the PTUs an dthe ECLs moving slower, but that's been already commented in other comments. Anyway I'm sure they will be fixed soon and we'll be able to enjoy this beast!
Thanks Wags from a past Flight Engineer on a CH-48C in the day. Can’t wait to flight it.
What's a CH-48?
Meant CH-47C
Dang…, can’t wait to put my hands on that module. Thanks Wags.
I haven't been this excited for a helicopter since the Apache. This already looks great.
What no love for the Kiowa Warrior?
What are you going to do with it ? there is no logistics system planned and only one of the undersling points at release
@@NoBrainSilent What do you mean it's not planned? It is planned already to be expanded but there are already very simple logistics in DCS already. As for the single hook at release, that is more than enough to move external loads. In fact during sling load training we used only the central hook on the 'Hook with huge concrete blocks to simulate loads on the aircraft. They would then punch these loads during simulated emergency procedures, and they'd hit the ground hard and we'd dig them out and do it all over again. You can haul plenty on a single hook, so get you panties out of your butt. These things were announced months ago, so you shouldn't be surprised at this point.
@@ImpendingJoker It's not planned for release. And with ED that means not planned for the next 12-24 months.
I'm just asking where the gameplay is in this module. Because it's a Hip without the rockets at this point. The simplistic DCS logistic system is not going to keep pilots entertained for long.
@@NoBrainSilent There are plenty of servers with scripts like CTLD that simulate logistics systems really well already. ED has also discussed ongoing development of their own logistics system, which has been developed alongside this helicopter.
The 'wags' returns and it all feels a little better.
"Hey everyone, Wags here from Eagle Dynamics" A beautiful sound we don't hear often enough, man. Keep up the good work!
I will absolutely be buying this once the ground AI accuracy is sorted, looks great!
So, like... never?
@@bronco5334 if need be, my last purchase was in 2022 because of the fundamental issues with AI that they have said they're fixing for many years with no tangible improvement
I retired from Army Aviation 20 years ago (former UH-60 guy) and continue to be amazed how Army Aviation continued to modernize it's airframes. incorporating digital systems into its fleet, replacing all the "steam" gages and instruments. Looking at the original cockpits of the H-64 and H-47 is like looking at an old WW2 aircraft panel. It's amazing how they upgraded them, even the OH-58 into the OH-58D. Army Aviation squeeks what budget it can out of the Army fiscal outlay, and unlike the USAF doesn't have the deep pockets to spend on aircraft. But they have done a pretty good job taking these pretty old designs and getting them modernized to be able to operate in the ever changing digital battlefields.
My future choppi in dcs. I’m joining the army as an aircraft mechanic and hopefully I’ll get the chance to fix the chinook. Awesome video WAGS. I’ll 100% preorder this module. The sounds are top notch.
Not really planning to buy this but I'm just happy to watch a Wags tutorial again. Very comforting and reminds me of a better time.
SO GLAD this is coming! That Full Glass cockpit is lookin' awesome :)
I love watching the W-A-g-SMR for years now. Never gets old. Stay healthy :3
Hey Wags. We call the crew positions ‘cabin door’, ‘left gun’ and ‘ramp’. Also the blades spin much slower at first and really dip down pretty low up front. Some other details but were mentioned already. Looks great!!
Thanks
yeah, I noticed those discrepancies and a lot more too. The big parts are there but so many little things are just ... not quite right.
It's finally here! Thanks for making sure the weapons fuses were corrected this update.
Its looking and sounding great, im excited
Thanks for the tutorial🔥. Feels like it has been a long time since you've uploaded something. CH-47 is looking pretty fun I want to see more vids on it
Thanks so much Wags! but just in case a few are having trouble, im showing Right Cntl + Right Shift + Keypad #4 to slide ride. (not left)
Loving the sound of those engines!! Can't not wait for her release
Wags is back! 🎉 Turns out we all like to be teased before a big release...😂
Will wait for it be more complete before thinking about buying it.
MAN its good to hear your voice again matt
It's great to open YT and see a new Wags video on deck. 🎉
Honestly it is kind of sad this helo came before the Blackhawk. I get there’s a mod for it, but these full fidelities are just something else. Still super excited for this big bird.
The sound is incredible! It's a beast!
Always been a lover of heavy lift and transport helos, once i get dcs and flight gear this is defo going to be a module I pickup, thanks for the info wags!
This is going to be a very important addition to DCS world. The NATO side has doesn't have any big transport helicopters.
Absolutely love the chinook but any idea if the Eurofighter Typhoon is still in production? If it is I'm really looking forward to it.
God that apu start up is so spot on
thankyou for all the hard work.
Another great video by the best aviation instructor! Thank you a lot Wags!
Sooo Excited to get my hands on the CH-47! It looks Amazing!!
Flying the Chinook has been an impossible dream of mine that I can somewhat live out now. Thanks
buy vr and some weed.
Wow ! The sound of this beast!
Wonderful to see you back showcasing new modules. Wags. This is going to provide some interesting mission sets, and I know the module provided some new challenges for the development team. Looking forward to seeing it in game!
Thanks a lot for this simple very helpfull startup Video!!!!!!!! Is there any other key binding for an "Autostart Up"? The windows key + Pos1 is not working with the CH-47F.
Regards
Don’t release it until those textures are replaced with a Flat Primer.
There is nothing shiny or reflective with exterior Mil flat paint.
Wags you're the best. if it's quality were tralkin here then i'll wait as long as it takes, thank you all for making sure it's a quality product and not just throwing it out there all bug infested.
Is there also a cargo camera for the Huey and not just the indicator?
Noice engine sounds on the startup. Well done!
Thank you Wags for giving us valuable tutorial s prior to release. That way I won't be crashing as badly when I first attempt to fly it. Can't wait!
New subscriber too! The video was awesome and the description for the start up is 🤌🏾 New main channel to watch for DCS content!
I, for one, am looking forward to the CH-47 Chinook release as it's so iconic and can add logistics into DCS.
But since the module release since 2022 and everything released this Q1 & Q2 2024, what a time to be into DCS, if you haven't already done so...
Thanks ED..
Wow, what a beautiful model 🏆👌
The Wags intros always make the aircraft feel like it belongs here now. 😊
Cheers dude!
So cool! I can't wait for this bird being released! Excellent tutorial!
That looks easy. I might actually remember how to do this without making notes!
One of the easiest birds to get the engines running on. Avionics is another case😂
@@CrewDogGamer one day there will be one that's easy to start and fly for my forgetful brain!
First tutorial of many, the Chinook is almost here!
Anticipation is killing me. That looked to easy to be real! I had to check I did not do the norm for an old guy like me and take a nap in the middle.🤭🤫
Having to endure 1:48 of ads to watch a clip of 8 minutes is totally crazy! YT ´s gone mad!
FYI the playlist name says CH-447 rather than CH-47. I just figured I'd mention that if it hasn't already been addressed.
How did you slide the camera over?! LCTRL + LSHFT + what?
I mis-spoke: RChtrl + RShft + KP4
@@MattWagnerThanks!
I knew it, something was in the Air! This is what I've been waiting for! Wags, get the Rotors spinning! 😁👍
Amazing! two questions,
I´ve flown this know for a couple of hours and it feels weird to fly, nothing like the other coppers, others have said the same, is that a CH-47 thing or an early access thing?
And the numbers or in fact almost everything on the displays are impossible to see during flight so u have to zoom in and out all the time, is that as it should be or something wrong?
you guys really and I mean really need to tell the community more about the 'load and unload cargo' part of this. What are the native logistics you want to implement into dcs for the chinook to be viable and not have to rely on third party scripts like ctld?
Please wait for the video on this. One video at a time in logical order.
@@MattWagner sure thing, thanks for reply and a clue that there is something coming in that regard ;) If dcs is finally going to bring native solution to such an obviously neglected feature of the sim then happy days, might actually consider buying the hook and c130 when it comes out ;)
The PTUs get turned on before engine start. Also the MFDs are left in the on position and would always start on APU GEN power.
This will be fun to learn when it releases. Personally I’d prefer an older steam gauge version as I’m old school like that, but it’ll be good to learn to fly the mighty Chinook in VR
preordered and ready 🥰
What's with rotor blade shadows blinking on the ground?
Also, why's there no '3' position like in Mi-8 to not have to slide POV to top middle panel?
Loving the new member to our rotor family!
I genuinely wish dcs would pair with somebody like squad (could be anyone) so we could have genuine live ground ops and air ops as well. Would make the helicopters that much more useful
Really cannot wait to digest the manual for this!
Thanks Wags and thanks to the entire ED team.
Great vid! Curious shouldn't the sound of the APU go down after you turn it off? I couldn't hear a difference when you shut the APU down at the end
Has this product released yet. I prepurchased this helicopter but as of today (08/06/24) I still cannot see where to download it if it has been released?
Really usefull for DCS "hobby pilots" like me
I'm still a bit sad that we won't get a simpler gauge version and we need digital MFD's, I cant pretend I'm flying in nam in this cockpit :p
glass cockpits are sterile and lack any character
I'm sure there will be mods like the F-18E/F but with steam gauges.
Sure you can, you're just being anal.
Thanks, Wags! Excited to see the CH-47 (and the Afghanistan map) to fruition in the coming year.
Would be nice to get some of the tutorials for the most complex modules like f/a-18 and f-16 updated and finalised so when Im trying to learn a system I dont have to go through 5 videos to know everything (or how it works Right Now).
Blackhawk please guys 😎
Maybe I’m reading too much into it, but there was a slight hesitation when Wags was checking out the co-Pilot PDP, and it looks like like there was a Blackhawk on the ramp 🧐
Just the current, AI UH-60
Key word….”current”
Stupid @@bobcoughlan929
@@MattWagner UH-60 (SOON)?? jk
You guys nailed the APU sound! Right down to the whistle!
but it sounds like it is right overhead instead of the back end of the machine where it should be. A minor quibble from someone that has heard that whine too many times.
@@yappydawg8985 agreed, but nothing a volume fix couldn’t sort out, also having heard it way too many times.
Can't wait to have my baby. Thanks for that vid.
Should be fun doing a cold start.
I am looking forward to flying my Chinook very much!
Pre-purchased. Would not hurt my feelings if they release it today
It will also come at the price of 1/3 of monthly mininal wage for non US currencies?
it sounds SOOOO good....
any more videos before the release?
Yes
The sounds a like 100% real GJ ED.
looks like the most digitized and easy-to-use helicopter cockpit so far ! Hopefully it will encourage more people to give DCS helicopters a try.
Just love. Now I will be able to help with the cargo drops in our missions.
Thanks, looking forward to it.
Great! Hope they fix the embarking problem then.
Seeing the accuracy of this aircraft got me needing to change a set of pants and underwear. I can already feel the broken A/C and barely comfortable seats.
I been flying the Chinook in MSFS, can't wait!
Same, that Miltech Chinook isn't bad at all.
@@ImpendingJoker indeed, very enjoyable to fly especially low and fast.
Crew Capacity and Configuration:
Typically operated by a crew of three (two pilots and a flight engineer), the CH-47F can also carry up to 3 gunners.
Will rear crew positions be modelled and playable at some point? Other Nations such as the RAF do their crewing differently they have 2 “Crewman” who are basically both flight engineers and gunners.
I have a feeling this beast will be the boss of CSAR very quickly 😏😏
Hey wags! I have a question, will aerial refueling be possible with the CH-47F?
Nope, not accurate for the CH, that is an MH capability.
What's the ETA on loading and unloading infantry animations for all helis?
YOOO WE ARE GETTING OUT OF THE roof of the Saigon embassy WITH THIS ONE!!
With all the MFDs in that thing? That feels kinda wrong 😅
@@realQuiGon If you can't look past the MFD's for the sake of a mission, then you shouldn't be flying simulators at all since there are a lot of inaccuracies in the first place. No one seems to have an issue with the Huey having a radar Altimeter when doing 'Nam type missions despite the UH-1D/H not having them during 'Nam and the Hs with them installed are referred to as UH-1Vs. So, stop being pedantic.
@@ImpendingJoker "If you can't look past the MFD's for the sake of a mission, then you shouldn't be flying simulators at all since there are a lot of inaccuracies in the first place."
Something, something non-sequitur?
"No one seems to have an issue with the Huey having a radar Altimeter when doing 'Nam type missions"
Because having an aircraft that's _completely_ the wrong version, with completely different avionics, that's the better part of half a century newer than Vietnam is no different to a radar altimeter.
It's hardly pedantry, unless you think the difference between the F-14A and the F-14D is "pedantry" - just because _you_ don't care about coherency doesn't mean everyone who does is a pedant.
@@OliverMiles98 That's exactly what it means. The copium is real with this one. haha