Worst off all, they only had 1 black magic in the form of the highest football stadiums in the world. They are used to play their games at La Paz' Hernando Siles, but recently, the national team played at the stadium whose altitude was higher than Hernando Siles'. Also, they got their first away win against Chile.
@JoseRamirez-kb9yn bolivia is going to use this stadium literally ontop of a mountain. From now until the end of WCQ's ... i do NOT see any team winning there... not even Ecuador who usually wins easily in La Paz Hernando Siles... Bolivia will remain undefeated at home and will qualify for next WC... even if they lose all their away games.
Nobody talks about Brazil's super star player "culture". this is really what drags brazil down, they are aways expecting the next one to solve their problems... and with the lack of them, this is unavoidable, they need to start to develop their game without it or they will never win a world cup again. you cant expect a new pele, r9, ronaldinho, romario, forever.
Yes, this. It took Argentina a really long time to figure out that just having Messi wasn't enough, you need a team of good (and more importantly smart) players who each one understands their assignament and play excellent colectively, not individualy. The best example of this is 2014 Germany.
@@Ale-nv2bo Germany 2014 is a bad example. We talk about players like Lahm, Neuer, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Özil, Hummels, Boateng, Khedira, Müller and so on... everyone legends of the game and all in their prime. Brazil in 2024 don't even come close to the individual quality of 2014 Germany. Yes germany played well collectively but how difficult is it to play well collectively if your backline includes prime Lahm, Boateng, Hummels protected by prime Schweinsteiger, Khedira and Neuer.
@@matthewmartin7391 Not true! Every single one of them were among the best in their positions. You can test.. It's 2014... Name 10 better goalkeepers than Neuer Name 10 better fullbacks than Lahm Name 10 better center backs than Boateng and Hummels Name 10 better defensive midfielders than Khedira Name 10 better center midfielders than Schweinsteiger and Kroos Name 10 better playmakers than Özil Good luck lol 😂
To be fair Paqueta is arguably top 5 midfielders in the prem (maybe Bruno g too), and Gabriel M. is cementing himself as maybe top CB in Europe this season. It's a coaching and federation problem.
As a Colombian, it was infuriating watching teams I considered less talented go to world cups instead of us, when we dropped the fake pride and appointed good coaches like Pekerman and Lorenzo is when we are seeing Colombia go back to world cups and playing in the Copa America final, Brazil right now have a similar problem, appoint the best coach possible! drop the useless pride!
This is a big problem! The Brazilian sporting scene was/is extremely resistant to the idea. Ten years ago just before 7-1, this kind of thinking was unimaginable, anyone who dared to say things like that was immediately crucified. Thankfully this is changing, but it is a slow process, they are unlikely to hire anyone unless the foreign coach is one of the best in the world. which is unlikely because they prefer to coach their own countries' national teams.
Brazil is in REAL danger of not qualifying to the next world cup. -They still got to play Colombia, vert difficult game for brazil. -Argentina in Argentina. .. they definitely losing -Ecuador in Quito they are losing or tie by a miracle.. (Ecuador almost won in brazil.. it's going to be a nightmare in Quito.. Ecuador started qualifying with -3 and STILL ahead of brazil.) -Bolivia is winning in their stadium that got approved by FiFA up in the fckng mountains... Bolivia is NOT losing to anybody at home from now on -Venezuela is super strong at home and they already tied brazil in brazil, Venezuela will probably cause Brazil to lose 2-3 points 2 teams are definitely not going to the next WC Chile and peru... who will be the third ???
I will always respect Colombia for the love they give to our coaches. But let's be honest, hell will freeze before Brasil signs an Argentinian coach, I get Ancelotti since Italy doesn't have that rivalry with them but other than that, I doubt they will sign a foreign manager
Argentina clears Brazil in the coaching department. 3 of the top 4 in the Copa America had Argentinian coaches; they also have good representation in Europe atm.
@@Psychadelicio No, I'm speaking about the tottenham coach who signed ben davies, federico fazio, michel vorn, dele alli, benjamin stambouli, Son, alderweireld, clinton Njie, trippier, sissoko, vincent janssen, wanyama, davinson sanchez, lucas moura, serge aurier, fernando llorente, foyth - and still didnt win anything, then moved to PSG and didn't get past the round of 16 in the champions league with neymar, mbappe, messi, icardi, di maria. As well as other notable failures.
Yes, basically, it's not the players at all, Brazil's only big problem is that we have arrogant, stubborn, lazy boomer coaches that refuse to study modern football. And the ones who do, like Diniz, have such a perverted interpretation of it that they end up being even worse than the conservatives. We need a foreign coach, sad Guardiola apparently gave up on his dream of coaching Brazil.
It's crazy how Neymar's insane level of play convinced us that Brazil was an elite world team. He really was the heart and soul of the team; carried the hopes of a whole nation on his shoulders and exceeded every expectation... And still got utterly disrespected for his contributions.
Totally agree. Neymar is one of the best I have ever seen. I just watched the video titled "Prime Neymar Was Actually Insane" and couldn't believe his skills. It's a shame he had so many injuries.
You two are part of the problem. Neymar Brazilian team from 2011/12 or generation is where the Brazilian team lost its dominance, and he Neymar is a fundamental problem. Always injured, plays soft and his style of play is horrible. They need to scratch this current team, including Neymar, and start all over from grassroot with players that mirror like R9, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Carlos, e.t.c.
@@akendon7260take away the injury. Neymar did nothing for Brazil. It’s not his fault. This is just a culture of bad coaching and out dated style of football.
@@brandonjablasone7544 A good coach is important. Look at Argentina? Argentina with Messi didn't win a single World Cup for 36 years. I can't believe Messi won his only and first world cup at age of 35! Pele won 3 and his first at age 17. He was the youngest player to win a World Cup. Anyway, Argentina was going through a hard time with bad coaches/managers, etc. Brazil is going through the same thing.
The difference is that Vinny isn't the creator that Neymar is. He's more of a finisher. He needs the ball delivered to him in the right place. And he doesn't create chances for others either, really. Neymar can pickup the ball from midfield and create magic, or take the ball on the wing and embarrass defenders. Neymar is a combo of Ronaldinho and whichever top level Brazilian striker you choose. Maybe not as creative as Dinho, or as effective as Romario, but he's not really that far off. Without that player, Brazil needs a creative midfielder, which means they would be probably sacrificing defense at another position. Neymar is special, no matter what anyone thinks of him. He's special.
@@okocha7914 he's a finisher for Real Madrid because they have creative players that get him the ball in good places. He's not a finisher for Brazil because they don't have creatives that get him the ball in good places, especially if Neymar isn't playing.
@@okocha7914 Vini is a excellent dribbler. But, if u watch his games, most of his goals come from striker like goals. His dribbling has no end result. His dribbling has nothing to add in the game, other than pushing back the opposition defense line.
Neymar just really hasn’t had the professionalism needed to be a top player for a while now, but his talent is still otherworldly. Technique, passing, dribbling, finishing on a level better than anyone in the world not named Messi
Brazilian here! You guys did great, but let me share a few points: The Ronaldo/Ronaldinho era had indeed much better players, but more than quality the real issue lies on structure and gaming plan. Brazil under Tite relied heavily on 1x1 situations. For that, Brazil would divide the team in 2 blocks of 5 players. One block would defend and circulate the ball until a player on the offensive block was free (Usually at the wings), and that player would then be encouraged to dribble while others would work close to create space for him off the ball. If he was dispossessed, others would press immediately to regain the ball as fast as possible. That's why Brazil conceded fewer chances. It worked because the best players we had were dribblers, specially Neymar, and the whole team worked for those few selective players. Under Diniz the plan was completely changed. He'd instruct the players to dribble less and rely on combination play through passing. Not only the players who liked to dribble would have less space, completely butchering their characteristics. He also broke the 2-block structure of Tite, so the team was struggling to regain possession when lost, and was conceding too many counter-attacks. A complete mess, but specially revolting because of his disregard for the player's preferred style of play. But one thing is certain, they both had a pattern of how they wanted their team to play. Dorival on the other hand, wants to give freedom to his players, making them as unpredictable as possible. But instead of confusing the opposition, is confusing his players instead. Often even himself... Players think differently. For example: Danilo played on Italian 'Serie A' and there, long balls and crossings were a thing. Not as much for La Liga players though who prefer to recieve the ball on feet. Other players from England's Premier League like Guimarães or Paquetá, tend to carry the ball on feet instead of passing. So now you have 11 players, all thinking differently having to figure stuff out during the matches. It could lead to something, but it might take much more time than we actually have. If works though, that'd mean the return of "Joga bonito" in its purest form.
No you guys just drop to the floor and cry for anything . And when big stars not like YOU cuz YOU SUCK but Neymar do that on international tv little kids like YOU start to play like that 😂😂😂
Great insights especially the disposession. There was always one player close by incase the attacker looses the ball. Also, when the other team had the ball, one Brazilian would tackle him while the other Brazilian takes the ball. It worked EVERY TIME! I think the change started with Dunga as coach. I'm not Brazilian, just a guy that's studied them. Lastly, the team chemistry on the pitch. It always looks like they practiced together for 9 months instead of weeks before the competition. The quality of players BRA has had over the last 8 years are good but other countries have been producing higher quality players imo.
All in all, Neymar was so good it didn’t matter who the coach was, now that he left, the level of coaching in Brazil has been exposed. Brazil has to find a good foreign coach, that’s why they went all out for Carlo, but failed because they were second for Carlo.
Brazil forwards are not the problem because I see them receiving all the backlash. Their midfield is dead. No midfield no party. Their fluidity was still good when Neymar was on the pitch and Casemiro wasn't washed. Now there are barely any final third entries let alone good positions in the box. They miss a Kaka type figure, someone who can bind the midfield and attack or a playmaking center mid who could draw out the opposition and deliver passes between the lines or get attackers into 1v1 situations or situations where combination play is possible. The disconnect is real. It has been like this for a while now, with a couple of games here and there which are outliers.
That's a problem with the way we train young players. Brazil got addicted with quick skillfull wingers, so any player that shows some sort of flair is pushed to play from the sides. If a new Kaka showed up, they would try to make him a winger. Today's national team is a reflection of that mentality, we don't have an amazing center forward, nor midfielders, because any sort of talent is pushed away from those positions.
Something is definitely wrong. The problem is not the players. When they play in Europe they shine. Look at the amazing goal Endrick scored in Real Madrid’s Champions League Win a few days ago that everyone is talking about. Even Mbappe couldn't believe that goal! But when they play in the Brazilian National team, they don't perform as well. I think it's due to having bad coaches/managers. And the sponsors who decide which players will play. Sad!
My opinion is: Neymar as a player on LW is already underrated, but he is so astronomically good as a playmaker. The whole squad plays a different game when Neymar is in the midfield.
Yep, the reason I watch these brazil videos is to see if the creator has identified the midfield as the problem. I agree with all the things you mention and would add that they aren't even doing their defensive jobs. I think the Paraguay goal is a good example of them just letting it all pass by them, with token movements made far too late. They aren't organised, have no plan, and don't do all those things with the ball you mention.
This is giving me such England vibes years ago. Where England had such great club level players. But then when it came to the national team, their form dipped. Not all of them, but it was always mind boggling.
You should watch HITCSeven's video about the Belgian national team. You need to just compare the other national teams during the time when England had their 'golden generation'. I'm talking about teams like France, Brazil, Italy. Their teams were just as good, if not better, and that showed in the results. Sometimes you just need to get lucky and have your golden generation when everyone else is having bronze generations.
@laoch5658 I mean brazil has great attackers and centerbacks but their midfield and their left and right back are average reminds me of 2016 arsenal good attack but shit midfield and and defence
Brazil missing out the World Cup for the first time in history would be a major football headline across the world, 100x worse than 7-1. Imagine this happened.
I think it would be healthy for them. It would bring them down to earth a bit. They have a overinflated sense of their own talents. It would force them to critically look on their whole footballing structure.
@@Carlosmltr In 1998 World Cup, when the tournament was expanded from 24 to 32 teams, there were notable absences for big teams, namely Uruguay (two-time World Cup winners) and Portugal (they had previously went through Euro 1996 quarterfinals). In Euro 2016, the Netherlands somehow failed to qualify, despite that tournament being expanded from 16 to 24 teams. As a fun fact, the last time USA hosted the World Cup, there were notable big misses at that time. France and England didn't qualify at that time, so anything is still possible for Brazil to miss out the World Cup (if they didn't improve immediately).
@@ezraezra2928 Do not forget that the UEFA qualifications are much more difficult. A large number of national teams in a small number of places, a lot of countries of medium strength, who are just waiting for the weakness of the big ones. Let's remember that in the last quarter of a century, England did not qualify for the Euro in 2008, the Netherlands once and Italy twice for the World Cup. This simply cannot happen to Brazil and Argentina. The current expansions also benefit the EU giants.
People named Neymar as the problem to why Brazil can't win the World Cup but now without him they couldn't even win against Paraguay😂😂😂. Who's the problem now?
As a São Paulo fan (the last team Dorival coached before going to the Seleção), Filippo is 100% right about him. He is a mediocre coach, however, even as mediocre as he is, he's still one of the top 3 brazilian coaches today, that just show how dire things are around here.
Técnico brasileiro eh palhaçada demais… como pode o povao insistir na ideia de q criticar o nosso entendimento do jogo eh complexo de vira-lata? Tá evidente q a gente ficou mto pra trás
até a porra da cbf abaixar um pouquinho a bola e trazer um técnico estrangeiro vai ser isso aí mesmo, tanto que se você for pegar os melhores técnicos do brasileirão hoje em dia, nenhum deles é brasileiro kkkk
If there's one thing I adore from this channel, is that you involve the locals to say something, give their local perspective which is detailed, to the point, thoroughly precise. Then in my feed I have always a channel called HITC Sevens which looks like AI Generated, full of mistakes, mispelling, 0 details, and a ton of stereotypes and wrong narrative. Keep it up with these Collabs. You are nailing it as one of the best YT football analysts and storytellers.
It must be so frustrating being a Brazil fan and watching the likes of Vini and Rodrygo light the footballing world on fire at Madrid only to stink up the joint the moment they put on the green and yellow.
Rodrygo is actually playing well, or as well as you possibly can in the state the team is right now, at least. People don't criticize him that much because we know he's a *really* good player, but not the one the responsibility should fall onto.
It’s exactly how I felt about England in the 2000s when we had great individuals that were amazing for their clubs but never got close for the national team
@@kats1646 that's true. They're not entirely to blame. Imo a lot of this has to fall on the midfield and defense, especially at full back. What a downgrade 🤮
@@NkosanaMakhubele partly to blame. 11 men on the field. The past 2 cycles finished with over 40 goals in qualifiers. They're on pace for less than half of that this time around.
The CBF (Brazil's FA) will pay for their war crimes against my country someday. Great stuff and always good to see my man Filippo on the channel as well!
From an outsider perspective, I think brazils problem is that too many players get their big money move at an early age (these days) and forget how important the national team is . Players like Richarlson, vini jr, etc just don’t give the wow factor the Brazil of the late 90’s early 00’s gave. They need player who’ll die for the country and remember the national team is more important than their image. I think too many Brazilians (imo) come to Europe and forget where they came from and know what it mean to be joga bonito, until they go back to that, I’d even be confident they get scotland (my country) could beat them
As a Brazilian i gotta say that CBF as most institutions in Brazil is also corrupt and that plays a major role on this whole situation, coaches can't draft every player they want and you can see in these recent world cups we had players that didn't have national team level of talent but they were there playing.
They are not recovering, the Brazilian FA does not learn from its mistakes. Another 7-1 will happen and nothing will change. Brazil depends on stars, they only won in 94 and 2002 because they had the best in each position, today all top nations have similar level. Brazil will never win the World Cup with the organization it has today.
Casual take. As embarassing as it was, saying that "destroyed Brazil" is just fairytale storytelling, or a meme people want to believe. Brazil was and remained dominant until 2022. Tite held everything together
My parents are from Brazil and have watched a ton of them and hope they do well, the problem is the midfield and the “pass to the best player” mentality and watch him do work. Can’t play like that when every team is really defensively tactically sound. Look at the USA, South Korea, Japan, Canada and many others. Those teams all will topple a giant in a tournament once or hold them to a draw. Brazil needs to play more like a team rather than give the ball to Neymar or Vini and sit back and chill.
Brazil never producing an "iconic" coach is shocking, now that you mention it. I am not a very knowledgeable soccer fan, but I can name a current/former famous manager from many of the "big" soccer countries.
Just because you don't know them it doesn't mean there is none. Tele Santana is a legendary coach in Brazil, he coached Brazil in the 82 world cup, didn't win, but it's considered by a lot of people the best team of all time, one of Guardiola favorites and big inspiration for him. Tele also won two club world cups coaching a team from Brazin and beating Liverpool and Milan back to back years. Unfortunately, there's not many like him
I think there is no "orchestrator" in Brasil. Even if you get a good five, if it's a defensive kind of five, you won't get a good connection between the defensive line and the forwards. Casemiro was never the guy who was great at passing. Even in his prime with Real he was always the anchor, while Xavi Alonso used to make the passes, or Kross, or even Modric. Same goes with Bruno and the other one that you mentioned. It's useless to have a great forward line if they never get the ball. They need to find that link. Even if it's no superstar playing at Europe. Argentina used some really obscure players at the world cup, and look how it went. Sometimes you don't HAVE to look at Europe to find quality.
I do think that Argentina's pool of players is ahead of Brazil's right now. Even at fullback, Argentina's historically weaker spot, they have players like Nahuel Molina, Gonzalo Montiel and Nicolás Tagliafico, who are much better than Brazil's options in that part of the pitch. The biggest difference is up front though; Lautaro Martínez and Julián Álvarez are world class, while Brazil have been trying to shoehorn one of their elite wingers at centre forward because of the dearth of talent in that area.
i wouldnt necessarily say that of course now argentina has a more define squad but the amount of talent brazil has and has produced is insane every postion has a great or class player rb danilo can play rb he might not be the best rb in the world but hes very underrated eder militao has also played rb for real at times attackers brazil has vini,rodrygo,endrick,richarlison,martinelli, they also have world class talents its not that they lack talent or is overshadowed it the lack of an system or identity they cant keep relying on a "star player" they need to be able to play with or without their star player like if messi goes down we can say though not at the same level argentina can still play effectively even if you have the best player in the world if your team cannot play well together without you then that team is bound brazil needs to stop with the super star mentality relying on a hero performance every time they cannot keep expecting to wait for the next pele,r9,dinho,neymar they need to develop cohesion between the players they have now so that when they do get another pele,neymar,dinho,r9 he wont have to carry so much we can only expect so much from 1 player especially when there is 10 other players they need to be able to pull their own weight its frustrating to see vini become the ballon d'or winner and score all these goals for real then become so shit for brazil, paqueta and guimares be both two of the best midfielders in the prem then become mid af for brazil they have the talent and players just need a better coach and system and the motivation from the players we cant keep waiting for another generational talent sorry for the long rant just sad to see one of the reasons why i fell in love with the beautiful game become so shit
@@JaDX243 hes a great talent but we cant just rely on one player the team as a whole needs to be able to pull their own weights cause if they do go down like neymar and his injury what they just gonna sit there and do fuck all? sorry im just frustrated to see such a great footballing nation become so shit
I mean, Brazil’s biggest problem isn’t their strike force… they have some of the best players… it’s further back in midfield and defence where they’re shaky and uninspiring
Argentina had problems with the defense/GK in the late 2010s, yet they were able to scare France in 2018 despite that obvious flaw! In 2022, they plugged in the gaps and the results speaks for itself! 😂😂😂
Brasilian here, the problem is the Europeanization of Brasilian football. We do not play like we used to, our players now go to Europe at such a young age that they lose their Brasilian football identity.
@jrsilva84 thats nothing new. Its been like that since the days of Romario and the early ninties sides. Didn't stop then from winning major competitions tho!
There's a reason why Brazil is being "flooded" with Portuguese coaches. Brazilian coaches are slackers and the lack of game knowledge shows in recent generations of Brazilian players. There's always a lot of chaos on the field and big gaps between sectors when you're watching a team coached by a Brazilian coach. Players need experienced coaches to bring the best out of them and chance that "slacker" mentality that older (and successful) generations didn't have.
Fun fact, Tite, Brazil ex coach, just lost a libertadores knockout game at the MARACANA to a uruguayan side whose squad value is 20x less than his (Flamengo). The defeat happened in the same way he lost to Croatia, losing control of the midfield.
Neymar definitely isn’t over hated, we just know how great he is and how his career could have been even better had he stayed with Barcelona or had better work ethic.
I think he means Ney is over hated in Brazil mostly, people here tend to use him as a scapegoat more times than not due to his actions off the pitch.. now that he’s been injured for a while the Brazilian people, who clearly just wanted someone to hate on, are finally noticing that his actions off the pitch don’t correlate with his skill on the pitch 😂 People in Brazil idealize celebrities too much, a lot of them get mad when someone famous demonstrates that they’re human
@@gameingbuddythe biggest gripe people here usually have with him is that he's a 32 year old dude who acts like a teenager (though, this was always reinforced by calling him "menino Ney" which roughly translates as "Ney boy". He isn't accountable for his actions, is a prick (borderline toxic) with basically any woman he ever had a relationship with. Yeah, he is talented, the best player Brazil has produced in the last 15 years, but was never diligent and had worse work ethic than gaúcho (that at least realized his full potential, though only for a few years). Imagine Cristiano Ronaldo keeping the same mindset he had in his first stint at Man UTD, that's Neymar's whole career.
He has great work ethics. You guys at barca under appreciated him. All you guys saw was messi. When messi went out injured, neymar made sure you guys were on top. Despite him killing it, all you guys saw was messi. The messi and Ronaldo era killed a lot of great footballers because of football politics and a great focus on just individual development instead of team development. Messi is a good player, but he isn't an alien. Give that special treatment to most players and you would get the football of old we all loved. Now teams want to build around one player.
His abnormal involvement with politics also contributed to him being hated. Not many Brazilian players are that deep in endorsing politicians like he is.
Vini cares about money and being a professional racism victim, thinks of himself as the next Pele, when in reality he couldn't even tie Romario's shoelaces. He became more annoying than Neymar which is a feat itself.
@@RedeemTeam-fj8nk Pelé almost didn't play in the 62 WC, because he was injured in the beggining of the competition, and also he was not our best player in 58 and 70 neither.
@@TioPika-Pau he was the the best in 62 he was top 3 best players in 54 and 70🤷🏾♂️ regardless of that outside of that era they only have two world cups if we going to say Brazil fell off that means this process started in 06' when Zidane ran laps around that so called "golden generation"
The level of football and tactical savvy has increased across the board. No team will no longer dominate as usual. Flair and names are no longer enough.
As a brazillian i can say, a lot of People here still think we are the country of football just because we produce one great wing player every year, but we use to have a team full of talent, and not rely on one player alone, our players are averege, but our really problem is the coach role, we NEED a proper coach from outside Brazil, my dream is to see Pep or Ancelotti here, but people here are too pridefull to think about that and CBF is the worst thing in the game, full of corruption, scandalous and a disgrace for the country. Boa analise do meu mano br.
In Brazilian football exists in a unique type of culture, where many are looking for the figure of a father. The dressing room at a major European football club is now a multilingual and multicultural place. There are few elements in Brazilian society that can prepare a coach to deal with such diversity.
There is a video that talks about how Vini used to be made fun of in Brazil as a player who couldn't shoot. In the video you see these Brazilian tv personalities going off about how he doesn't deserve Madrid because "he came from the academy and can't even shoot". Maybe, just maybe Vini harbors some unresolved trauma from his time in Brazil that hangs over him whenever he plays for them.
He isn't. Its just that he has the glow of playing for Real Madrid. Low football iQ, dribbles unnecessarily and slows forward movement down, and makes bad decisions on the pitch...
When an Argentinian player retires, they next to year he is a coach. When a Brazilian player retires, he gets a job as TV commentator, politician, or disappear for good.
Brazil hasn't been good for a couple of decades tbh - the last world cup win was 2002, over 20 year ago. The issue is, all their players play in Europe so they are used to playing the pragmatic, possession-based style of the Euro leagues which means there is no room for Jogo Bonito - Brazil used to be known for individual brilliant players but the modern European game doesn't allow for that, it's all tactics, sideways passing, possession and pragmatism - this is at odds with Brazils spiritual way of playing - hence why they are so dull and uninspiring to watch and also unsuccessful.
As a Brazilian I can't believe this is the team we have when it's my turn to be alive. I was literally born a month before the 2002 WC, and since then we have been mediocre
@@noname-ot7vd good by other country's metrics maybe. Getting knocked down by every European team we faced in a WC, most times at the quarterfinals isn't what we expect here in Brazil. Maybe wrongly, but we arrive at every WC as favorites, and getting knocked down at que quarter finals is always a huge disappointment
@@noname-ot7vd And seems like Germany have lost theirs too after that SoKor game in 2018! And don't get me started on Italy (ABSENT for TWO consecutive World Cups)! 🙈
Neymar is fairly criticized. He ruined his career by leaving Barça for PSG and then not taking care of his health. Too many injuries, too many parties, too much alcohol, too little focus on football. He got what he deserved sports-wise I mean.
As a Brazilian, I can share a bit of the sentiment: there is a good portion of fans who aren't as concerned about this due to a peculiar situation. The clubs are in one of their best forms in recent decades, perhaps only surpassed by the 70s-80s when they arguably had some of the best teams in the world in their league.
I remember when one of my favorite players, Alex, was not called up for the 2002 World Cup because there was so much talents in his position. The decline in Brazil's quality also involves a decline in personal confidence, personality and intelligence. It's not just in football that the country is doing badly, it's reflected in everything else. Germany's 7-1 defeat was just reality showing itself.
@@sergiolopes4738 that's the point? they're playing like a team. in 2022, they beat a Real Madrid-caliber squad (France) with (mostly) Europa League caliber players.
@@sergiolopes4738 Pezella played much better for Argentina than Bremer plays for Brazil, same goes for every other player. I would rather have Montiel of Argentina than Danilo of Brazil.
My opinion as a Brazilian is that Dorival shouldn't be the manager for the Seleção, we should've gone for someone like Abel Ferreira but I believe the higher ups in the CBF don't want a foreigner as head coach, our second problem is the CBF, the CBF president is useless and there's no organization within the CBF, for an example our player got stuck in Las Vegas after the loss to Uruguay in Copa America because there were no logistics to get them back to Brazil, Paquetá might've enjoyed his extra time in Las Vegas tho, and our 3rd problem is the Striker position, Dorival Júnior doesn't trust Endrick just yet and our "best" option is Pedro who plays for Flamengo, other than those two, there's no reliable choice to a number 9, Richarlison hasn't been called up ever since he admitted having depression and he wasn't reliable anyway, Evanilson was called up but never played, Matheus Cunha and Rodrigo Muniz weren't ever considered and so on
Fillipom is correct I never understood the hate and comparison to Mesi and Ronaldo, and people get stuck in this and forget to appreciate hit talent as is and his as different player....... I love Neymar. But the Brazillian Ronaldo (all my highschool football debates)
Its a lack of coaching and not talent. Not a single brasilian coach has the tactical knowledge to coach at this level anymore . The way we play is outdated and relys completely pure talent . Yet our cbf inisists on using Brasilian coaches . Them trying to get carlo was the best move they ever thought of and thats the exact type of coach they need. Someone who lets the players play their game . But also sets them up tactically
Brazil are the most successful and iconic national football team in the world, having won a record five FIFA World Cups in the men's game, and boasting legends of the game like Pelé, Zico, and Ronaldo. Since winning their last World Cup in 2002 though, Brazil have reached just one semi-final on home soil in 2014, where they lost 7-1 against Germany, and have been sent packing in the quarter finals at every other tournament. I think that a very important aspect of the fact that we don't win anymore is that our playstyle is increasingly becoming more rigid and extremely tactical to mirror Europe playstyle, but this is something that the europeans are good at, not the brazilians. Brazil has always been strong when it had more fluidity and collective creativity and this has been controlled and discouraged by the latest coaches. It’s crazy to see that raw Brazilian playing style & flair slowly diminish. I know it’s due to a lot of Brazilian players playing in Europe but hopefully their style of football is preserved.
Spot on. Brazilian culture brews natural talent in football. The rigidity of the european style of tactics sucks the talent away in the Brazilian context.
Be careful to not fall into results-oriented thinking. Since winning te WC in 2002, Brazil hasn't missed a single knockout (only Argentina did the same). If you look at the elimination games, in 2010, 18 and 22 they were very close and nobody would bat an eye. Every champion needs a little luck here and there and in those occasions, we didn't have it. It seems like all of our luck was reserved for the 2014 WC (the only time where advancing through the round of 16 felt like a hard task). A good reason for we not winning anymore is mostly because other teams are becoming better and fine margins are becoming more and more decisive. Argentina won the last World Cup but in every round besides the semi-finals, they were close to elimination. For 3 minutes in the last WC, we had Costa Rica and Japan advancing over Spain and Germany. Brazil is still one of the few (if not the only) national teams who didn't have to really worry about a group stage elimination in this century.
As a coach, i agreed with everything you guys said, but I wanted to add something, not only they failed without a playmaker ( Neymar) and good coaching, furthermore, they have never been a generation with so many weak full-backs; BRAZIL cannot be a contender when their full-backs ( Right or left, or both) are not among the best in the World, defensively and offensively. If you look at all the Brazil teams who won the World Cup, even the ones of 1982-1986 who failed, one strong point was the full-backs who always scored. So they have to produce 2 great ones for 2030. For me even if they qualify for 2026, this generation is too weak, even Neymar who passes his prime cannot help them much.
Neymar has always been far too disrespected in his career. Even if people think he never reached his full potential, he was always been a top player right behind Ronaldo and Messi
It's not even that Brazil aren't that good anymore. Squads go up and down over generations. It's more that they don't even slightly play like Brazil. There's an expectation of Brazilian football that is being creative and flowing and entertaining, attacking. I haven't seen them play 'Brazilian' football for maybe 10-15 years now. It's sad.
But how many times does Brazil have these downs? It’s not the first time. But everytime they have that one glimmer of hope - there seems to be good that comes. Estevao is that hope
There is a fundamental point beyond all of these well-commented points. In the past, players' main dream was to play for the national team, but nowadays their biggest dream is to play in Europe, in the Champions League, to wear the Real Madrid or Manchester City jersey, for example. And they achieve this dream at 17, 18, 19, 20 years old. The national team becomes a mere detail, almost an obligation. And this is not their fault, it is how business is organized today. Something similar happens with fans.
As always though, it's gonna be incredibly difficult for a National team coach to get their system together. It's why it's obviously super important that you get your best national coach ASAP, so they don't have to figure out up until the WC what style of football/system to really play in. Because those two matches and one or two weeks training on international, especially when you have current Brazil with players from such different playing teams. Is gonna be incredibly difficult to pull off, and they may only find their stride in the WC itself like that.
As someone who grew up to the 98 and 02 teams, I guess this is a “return to the mean” situation. We literally had 3 or even 4 of the best players in the world IN THE SAME team. We should appreciate how absurdly unreal that was and be glad that it happened. The national team’s current state is just what “normal” looks like and we are not used to it
Dorival Jr is the problem. The CBF need to get rid of him because if they dont he is going to shame what is a proud footballing nation. The reason as to why Brazil are struggling is not because of lack of talent- Brazil is never short of talent! Its simply because they are not well coached. Thats the difference between them and Argentina (proper coaching). Until they resolve that they will continue to struggle.
I agree 100% about Neymar's underappreciation for what he's accomplished, in fact is the most Brazilian Goal scorer in history (That's a huge accomplishment in Brazil). Won trophies (a lot of Trophies). So what! Neymar didn't win the World Cup (at least we saw Football History).
Bolivia being 1 point away from Brazil is definitely alarming
BOLIVIA MENTIONED 🇧🇴🇧🇴🇧🇴🦙🦙🦙
Worst off all, they only had 1 black magic in the form of the highest football stadiums in the world. They are used to play their games at La Paz' Hernando Siles, but recently, the national team played at the stadium whose altitude was higher than Hernando Siles'. Also, they got their first away win against Chile.
Bolivia play on a mountain like 10 miles high. Try doing 90 without acclimatisation
Bolívia about to sweep the whole tournament ong
@JoseRamirez-kb9yn bolivia is going to use this stadium literally ontop of a mountain. From now until the end of WCQ's ... i do NOT see any team winning there... not even Ecuador who usually wins easily in La Paz Hernando Siles... Bolivia will remain undefeated at home and will qualify for next WC... even if they lose all their away games.
Nobody talks about Brazil's super star player "culture". this is really what drags brazil down, they are aways expecting the next one to solve their problems... and with the lack of them, this is unavoidable, they need to start to develop their game without it or they will never win a world cup again. you cant expect a new pele, r9, ronaldinho, romario, forever.
Yes, this. It took Argentina a really long time to figure out that just having Messi wasn't enough, you need a team of good (and more importantly smart) players who each one understands their assignament and play excellent colectively, not individualy.
The best example of this is 2014 Germany.
@@Ale-nv2bo
Germany 2014 is a bad example.
We talk about players like Lahm, Neuer, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Özil, Hummels, Boateng, Khedira, Müller and so on... everyone legends of the game and all in their prime.
Brazil in 2024 don't even come close to the individual quality of 2014 Germany.
Yes germany played well collectively but how difficult is it to play well collectively if your backline includes prime Lahm, Boateng, Hummels protected by prime Schweinsteiger, Khedira and Neuer.
@@MrIkOgNiTo
Those guys weren’t the best in there positions they were good but they were players that gave everything for the team.
@@matthewmartin7391
Not true! Every single one of them were among the best in their positions.
You can test.. It's 2014...
Name 10 better goalkeepers than Neuer
Name 10 better fullbacks than Lahm
Name 10 better center backs than Boateng and Hummels
Name 10 better defensive midfielders than Khedira
Name 10 better center midfielders than Schweinsteiger and Kroos
Name 10 better playmakers than Özil
Good luck lol 😂
@@MrIkOgNiTobruh leave dude alone💀 he can't even mention 5 better than those players in their prime, 10 is too many
Brazil creates a lot of forwards but for the amount of attacking talent, the production of all rounder midfielders like Modric is non existant
To be fair Paqueta is arguably top 5 midfielders in the prem (maybe Bruno g too), and Gabriel M. is cementing himself as maybe top CB in Europe this season. It's a coaching and federation problem.
Bruno G and Paqueta are some of the best midfielders in the premier league.
Bruno, paqueta, Joelinton are all very all rounder. Way far the four of the back are the part of the squad that lack of quality
@@sergiolopes4738paqueta is not an all rounder like modric friend
@@bell8003not like modric
As a Colombian, it was infuriating watching teams I considered less talented go to world cups instead of us, when we dropped the fake pride and appointed good coaches like Pekerman and Lorenzo is when we are seeing Colombia go back to world cups and playing in the Copa America final, Brazil right now have a similar problem, appoint the best coach possible! drop the useless pride!
This is a big problem! The Brazilian sporting scene was/is extremely resistant to the idea. Ten years ago just before 7-1, this kind of thinking was unimaginable, anyone who dared to say things like that was immediately crucified. Thankfully this is changing, but it is a slow process, they are unlikely to hire anyone unless the foreign coach is one of the best in the world. which is unlikely because they prefer to coach their own countries' national teams.
Brazil is in REAL danger of not qualifying to the next world cup.
-They still got to play Colombia, vert difficult game for brazil.
-Argentina in Argentina. .. they definitely losing
-Ecuador in Quito they are losing or tie by a miracle.. (Ecuador almost won in brazil.. it's going to be a nightmare in Quito.. Ecuador started qualifying with -3 and STILL ahead of brazil.)
-Bolivia is winning in their stadium that got approved by FiFA up in the fckng mountains... Bolivia is NOT losing to anybody at home from now on
-Venezuela is super strong at home and they already tied brazil in brazil, Venezuela will probably cause Brazil to lose 2-3 points
2 teams are definitely not going to the next WC Chile and peru... who will be the third ???
Bro i feel you. Peru had the chance to sign Pekerman and we signed Fossatti instead.
I will always respect Colombia for the love they give to our coaches. But let's be honest, hell will freeze before Brasil signs an Argentinian coach, I get Ancelotti since Italy doesn't have that rivalry with them but other than that, I doubt they will sign a foreign manager
They need an argentine coach
Argentina clears Brazil in the coaching department. 3 of the top 4 in the Copa America had Argentinian coaches; they also have good representation in Europe atm.
they also get completely glazed. how pochettino has managed to get himself so many top jobs is astounding. he's probably at his level now though.
@@abody499you're talking as if you were the one who managed spurs and took them to ucl final without signing one player
@@Psychadelicio No, I'm speaking about the tottenham coach who signed ben davies, federico fazio, michel vorn, dele alli, benjamin stambouli, Son, alderweireld, clinton Njie, trippier, sissoko, vincent janssen, wanyama, davinson sanchez, lucas moura, serge aurier, fernando llorente, foyth - and still didnt win anything, then moved to PSG and didn't get past the round of 16 in the champions league with neymar, mbappe, messi, icardi, di maria. As well as other notable failures.
Add Venezuela who finished 5th and it becomes 4 of the top 5.
Yes, basically, it's not the players at all, Brazil's only big problem is that we have arrogant, stubborn, lazy boomer coaches that refuse to study modern football.
And the ones who do, like Diniz, have such a perverted interpretation of it that they end up being even worse than the conservatives.
We need a foreign coach, sad Guardiola apparently gave up on his dream of coaching Brazil.
It's crazy how Neymar's insane level of play convinced us that Brazil was an elite world team. He really was the heart and soul of the team; carried the hopes of a whole nation on his shoulders and exceeded every expectation... And still got utterly disrespected for his contributions.
Totally agree. Neymar is one of the best I have ever seen. I just watched the video titled "Prime Neymar Was Actually Insane" and couldn't believe his skills. It's a shame he had so many injuries.
Problem of Neymar is the he agrees with you
You two are part of the problem. Neymar Brazilian team from 2011/12 or generation is where the Brazilian team lost its dominance, and he Neymar is a fundamental problem. Always injured, plays soft and his style of play is horrible. They need to scratch this current team, including Neymar, and start all over from grassroot with players that mirror like R9, Rivaldo, Ronaldinho, Carlos, e.t.c.
@@akendon7260take away the injury. Neymar did nothing for Brazil. It’s not his fault. This is just a culture of bad coaching and out dated style of football.
@@brandonjablasone7544 A good coach is important. Look at Argentina? Argentina with Messi didn't win a single World Cup for 36 years. I can't believe Messi won his only and first world cup at age of 35! Pele won 3 and his first at age 17. He was the youngest player to win a World Cup. Anyway, Argentina was going through a hard time with bad coaches/managers, etc. Brazil is going through the same thing.
The difference is that Vinny isn't the creator that Neymar is. He's more of a finisher. He needs the ball delivered to him in the right place. And he doesn't create chances for others either, really.
Neymar can pickup the ball from midfield and create magic, or take the ball on the wing and embarrass defenders. Neymar is a combo of Ronaldinho and whichever top level Brazilian striker you choose.
Maybe not as creative as Dinho, or as effective as Romario, but he's not really that far off.
Without that player, Brazil needs a creative midfielder, which means they would be probably sacrificing defense at another position.
Neymar is special, no matter what anyone thinks of him. He's special.
I'd say he's a better chance creator than dinho considering the burden he's been through for brazil
Vini is not a finisher. He creative, but not as neymar. Vini has 5 goals for in 35 games for brazil, he is not a finisher. Neymar is a better finisher
@@okocha7914 he's a finisher for Real Madrid because they have creative players that get him the ball in good places. He's not a finisher for Brazil because they don't have creatives that get him the ball in good places, especially if Neymar isn't playing.
@@okocha7914 Vini is a excellent dribbler. But, if u watch his games, most of his goals come from striker like goals. His dribbling has no end result. His dribbling has nothing to add in the game, other than pushing back the opposition defense line.
Neymar just really hasn’t had the professionalism needed to be a top player for a while now, but his talent is still otherworldly. Technique, passing, dribbling, finishing on a level better than anyone in the world not named Messi
Brazilian here! You guys did great, but let me share a few points: The Ronaldo/Ronaldinho era had indeed much better players, but more than quality the real issue lies on structure and gaming plan.
Brazil under Tite relied heavily on 1x1 situations. For that, Brazil would divide the team in 2 blocks of 5 players. One block would defend and circulate the ball until a player on the offensive block was free (Usually at the wings), and that player would then be encouraged to dribble while others would work close to create space for him off the ball. If he was dispossessed, others would press immediately to regain the ball as fast as possible. That's why Brazil conceded fewer chances. It worked because the best players we had were dribblers, specially Neymar, and the whole team worked for those few selective players.
Under Diniz the plan was completely changed. He'd instruct the players to dribble less and rely on combination play through passing. Not only the players who liked to dribble would have less space, completely butchering their characteristics. He also broke the 2-block structure of Tite, so the team was struggling to regain possession when lost, and was conceding too many counter-attacks. A complete mess, but specially revolting because of his disregard for the player's preferred style of play.
But one thing is certain, they both had a pattern of how they wanted their team to play. Dorival on the other hand, wants to give freedom to his players, making them as unpredictable as possible. But instead of confusing the opposition, is confusing his players instead. Often even himself... Players think differently. For example: Danilo played on Italian 'Serie A' and there, long balls and crossings were a thing. Not as much for La Liga players though who prefer to recieve the ball on feet. Other players from England's Premier League like Guimarães or Paquetá, tend to carry the ball on feet instead of passing. So now you have 11 players, all thinking differently having to figure stuff out during the matches. It could lead to something, but it might take much more time than we actually have. If works though, that'd mean the return of "Joga bonito" in its purest form.
No you guys just drop to the floor and cry for anything . And when big stars not like YOU cuz YOU SUCK but Neymar do that on international tv little kids like YOU start to play like that 😂😂😂
You should have tried that hard at football instead of RUclips comments
Great insights especially the disposession. There was always one player close by incase the attacker looses the ball. Also, when the other team had the ball, one Brazilian would tackle him while the other Brazilian takes the ball. It worked EVERY TIME! I think the change started with Dunga as coach. I'm not Brazilian, just a guy that's studied them. Lastly, the team chemistry on the pitch. It always looks like they practiced together for 9 months instead of weeks before the competition. The quality of players BRA has had over the last 8 years are good but other countries have been producing higher quality players imo.
Funny coincidence, all the three nations who won 4+ World Cup titles took exactly 24 years to win the 4th title
Interesting indeed. And if you look up, Brasil after the 4th (and 5th) continued to be relatively strong in comparison with Germany and Italy.
@@marcelotononBR I agree, getting the 5th only took 8 years
@@marcelotononBR They could have probably had 7 titles by now.. if it wasn’t for France…
@@GoldGollum if it wasn't for brazil italy would have 6 titles
Rabona means "big ass" in portuguese and we brazilians love this so a like for you, friend. Stay well.
Man I need some Brazilian girls Rabona in my life then 😂
Shut up
You do know that he’s Portuguese, right?
@@Zagiruswith that accent? No way! Probably hispanic
@@bruno_tcs
He himself said it in one of his videos.
All in all, Neymar was so good it didn’t matter who the coach was, now that he left, the level of coaching in Brazil has been exposed. Brazil has to find a good foreign coach, that’s why they went all out for Carlo, but failed because they were second for Carlo.
Brazil forwards are not the problem because I see them receiving all the backlash. Their midfield is dead. No midfield no party. Their fluidity was still good when Neymar was on the pitch and Casemiro wasn't washed. Now there are barely any final third entries let alone good positions in the box. They miss a Kaka type figure, someone who can bind the midfield and attack or a playmaking center mid who could draw out the opposition and deliver passes between the lines or get attackers into 1v1 situations or situations where combination play is possible. The disconnect is real. It has been like this for a while now, with a couple of games here and there which are outliers.
Neymar really did paper over the cracks for some time.
That's a problem with the way we train young players. Brazil got addicted with quick skillfull wingers, so any player that shows some sort of flair is pushed to play from the sides. If a new Kaka showed up, they would try to make him a winger. Today's national team is a reflection of that mentality, we don't have an amazing center forward, nor midfielders, because any sort of talent is pushed away from those positions.
Something is definitely wrong. The problem is not the players. When they play in Europe they shine. Look at the amazing goal Endrick scored in Real Madrid’s Champions League Win a few days ago that everyone is talking about. Even Mbappe couldn't believe that goal! But when they play in the Brazilian National team, they don't perform as well. I think it's due to having bad coaches/managers. And the sponsors who decide which players will play. Sad!
My opinion is: Neymar as a player on LW is already underrated, but he is so astronomically good as a playmaker. The whole squad plays a different game when Neymar is in the midfield.
Yep, the reason I watch these brazil videos is to see if the creator has identified the midfield as the problem. I agree with all the things you mention and would add that they aren't even doing their defensive jobs. I think the Paraguay goal is a good example of them just letting it all pass by them, with token movements made far too late. They aren't organised, have no plan, and don't do all those things with the ball you mention.
This is giving me such England vibes years ago. Where England had such great club level players. But then when it came to the national team, their form dipped. Not all of them, but it was always mind boggling.
Brazil dont have great players though
You should watch HITCSeven's video about the Belgian national team. You need to just compare the other national teams during the time when England had their 'golden generation'. I'm talking about teams like France, Brazil, Italy. Their teams were just as good, if not better, and that showed in the results. Sometimes you just need to get lucky and have your golden generation when everyone else is having bronze generations.
@laoch5658 I mean brazil has great attackers and centerbacks but their midfield and their left and right back are average reminds me of 2016 arsenal good attack but shit midfield and and defence
Bad coaching really
@@laoch5658 Vini, Neymar, Rodrigo , Raphina ???
Brazil missing out the World Cup for the first time in history would be a major football headline across the world, 100x worse than 7-1. Imagine this happened.
I think it would be healthy for them. It would bring them down to earth a bit. They have a overinflated sense of their own talents. It would force them to critically look on their whole footballing structure.
Would be even more humiliating this time because qualifiers have +2 slots for south American teams.
@@Carlosmltr In 1998 World Cup, when the tournament was expanded from 24 to 32 teams, there were notable absences for big teams, namely Uruguay (two-time World Cup winners) and Portugal (they had previously went through Euro 1996 quarterfinals). In Euro 2016, the Netherlands somehow failed to qualify, despite that tournament being expanded from 16 to 24 teams.
As a fun fact, the last time USA hosted the World Cup, there were notable big misses at that time. France and England didn't qualify at that time, so anything is still possible for Brazil to miss out the World Cup (if they didn't improve immediately).
@@ezraezra2928 Do not forget that the UEFA qualifications are much more difficult. A large number of national teams in a small number of places, a lot of countries of medium strength, who are just waiting for the weakness of the big ones. Let's remember that in the last quarter of a century, England did not qualify for the Euro in 2008, the Netherlands once and Italy twice for the World Cup. This simply cannot happen to Brazil and Argentina. The current expansions also benefit the EU giants.
Brazil apparently came close to missing in the 2002 qualifying cycle! 🙈
The disrespect on Neymar drives me insane, best Brazilian we have seen since R9 and I don't see there being another like him for a while
Because his attitude is trash
@@YoSoyTorViKHow??
@@Melo_7_Leo google "Neymar lousy attitude"
Im amazed that your brazilian guy didnt talk about CBF role in this, they are literally the main reason
Concordo kkkk
Yep.
People named Neymar as the problem to why Brazil can't win the World Cup but now without him they couldn't even win against Paraguay😂😂😂. Who's the problem now?
Freaking defence tbh
He's the reason why Rodrygo and Vini have such bad attitudes. All they care about is money.
@@salamandress waah😂😂😂 cry Barcelona fan
@@NkosanaMakhubelewhy would he be a Barca fan if he’s thrashing Neymar ?😂dumbass
@@salamandresswhat is he their dad? They can make their own decisions bro they’re adults
As a São Paulo fan (the last team Dorival coached before going to the Seleção), Filippo is 100% right about him. He is a mediocre coach, however, even as mediocre as he is, he's still one of the top 3 brazilian coaches today, that just show how dire things are around here.
O flamengo indiretamente fudeu com todo o Brasil perdendo aquela final pra vcs
@@Seila60815 acho q ele iria mesmo se perdesse a final
Técnico brasileiro eh palhaçada demais… como pode o povao insistir na ideia de q criticar o nosso entendimento do jogo eh complexo de vira-lata? Tá evidente q a gente ficou mto pra trás
@@Seila60815Wesley*
até a porra da cbf abaixar um pouquinho a bola e trazer um técnico estrangeiro vai ser isso aí mesmo, tanto que se você for pegar os melhores técnicos do brasileirão hoje em dia, nenhum deles é brasileiro kkkk
If there's one thing I adore from this channel, is that you involve the locals to say something, give their local perspective which is detailed, to the point, thoroughly precise.
Then in my feed I have always a channel called HITC Sevens which looks like AI Generated, full of mistakes, mispelling, 0 details, and a ton of stereotypes and wrong narrative.
Keep it up with these Collabs. You are nailing it as one of the best YT football analysts and storytellers.
I completely agree with your comment about HITC.
It must be so frustrating being a Brazil fan and watching the likes of Vini and Rodrygo light the footballing world on fire at Madrid only to stink up the joint the moment they put on the green and yellow.
Rodrygo is actually playing well, or as well as you possibly can in the state the team is right now, at least. People don't criticize him that much because we know he's a *really* good player, but not the one the responsibility should fall onto.
It’s exactly how I felt about England in the 2000s when we had great individuals that were amazing for their clubs but never got close for the national team
@@kats1646 that's true. They're not entirely to blame. Imo a lot of this has to fall on the midfield and defense, especially at full back. What a downgrade 🤮
The fowards are really the players to blame?
@@NkosanaMakhubele partly to blame. 11 men on the field. The past 2 cycles finished with over 40 goals in qualifiers. They're on pace for less than half of that this time around.
The CBF (Brazil's FA) will pay for their war crimes against my country someday.
Great stuff and always good to see my man Filippo on the channel as well!
Your analysis of teams are really different compared to other youtubers but always interesting. Keep up the good work.
Thanks, you just said what I tell everyone: Brazil has always the same problem, expensive players but cheap coaches.
From an outsider perspective, I think brazils problem is that too many players get their big money move at an early age (these days) and forget how important the national team is . Players like Richarlson, vini jr, etc just don’t give the wow factor the Brazil of the late 90’s early 00’s gave. They need player who’ll die for the country and remember the national team is more important than their image. I think too many Brazilians (imo) come to Europe and forget where they came from and know what it mean to be joga bonito, until they go back to that, I’d even be confident they get scotland (my country) could beat them
As a Brazilian i gotta say that CBF as most institutions in Brazil is also corrupt and that plays a major role on this whole situation, coaches can't draft every player they want and you can see in these recent world cups we had players that didn't have national team level of talent but they were there playing.
Amazing video; the best I've seen about Brazil national team decline. Great work Adrian and Fillipo!
Pep Graviola's tactics being the norm is filtering talented players and removing the fun of football/soccer
They're still recovering from that 7 - 1 back in 2014
They are not recovering, the Brazilian FA does not learn from its mistakes. Another 7-1 will happen and nothing will change. Brazil depends on stars, they only won in 94 and 2002 because they had the best in each position, today all top nations have similar level. Brazil will never win the World Cup with the organization it has today.
Casual take.
As embarassing as it was, saying that "destroyed Brazil" is just fairytale storytelling, or a meme people want to believe.
Brazil was and remained dominant until 2022. Tite held everything together
This does not make ANY sense.
My parents are from Brazil and have watched a ton of them and hope they do well, the problem is the midfield and the “pass to the best player” mentality and watch him do work. Can’t play like that when every team is really defensively tactically sound. Look at the USA, South Korea, Japan, Canada and many others. Those teams all will topple a giant in a tournament once or hold them to a draw. Brazil needs to play more like a team rather than give the ball to Neymar or Vini and sit back and chill.
Brazil never producing an "iconic" coach is shocking, now that you mention it. I am not a very knowledgeable soccer fan, but I can name a current/former famous manager from many of the "big" soccer countries.
Zagallo is an iconic coach. But that is only in brazil.
Just because you don't know them it doesn't mean there is none. Tele Santana is a legendary coach in Brazil, he coached Brazil in the 82 world cup, didn't win, but it's considered by a lot of people the best team of all time, one of Guardiola favorites and big inspiration for him. Tele also won two club world cups coaching a team from Brazin and beating Liverpool and Milan back to back years. Unfortunately, there's not many like him
The thing is that Neymar actually gives a fuck when brazil loses
Brother, you've got umworldly presentation and interviewing abilities. Much respect to you from one of your southern neighbors.
okay being world cup contenders is stretch but for most part this was spot on
The 2 best creators, Adrian from RabonaTV & Filippo from Tac. Nice 🔥
I think there is no "orchestrator" in Brasil. Even if you get a good five, if it's a defensive kind of five, you won't get a good connection between the defensive line and the forwards. Casemiro was never the guy who was great at passing. Even in his prime with Real he was always the anchor, while Xavi Alonso used to make the passes, or Kross, or even Modric. Same goes with Bruno and the other one that you mentioned. It's useless to have a great forward line if they never get the ball. They need to find that link. Even if it's no superstar playing at Europe. Argentina used some really obscure players at the world cup, and look how it went. Sometimes you don't HAVE to look at Europe to find quality.
Please keep it up. Your videos are extreemly insightful. Big up from Kenya.
I do think that Argentina's pool of players is ahead of Brazil's right now. Even at fullback, Argentina's historically weaker spot, they have players like Nahuel Molina, Gonzalo Montiel and Nicolás Tagliafico, who are much better than Brazil's options in that part of the pitch. The biggest difference is up front though; Lautaro Martínez and Julián Álvarez are world class, while Brazil have been trying to shoehorn one of their elite wingers at centre forward because of the dearth of talent in that area.
I really hope Endrick pays off his hype for Brazil bc we really fucking need that star 9
Argentina GK is worldclass
i wouldnt necessarily say that of course now argentina has a more define squad but the amount of talent brazil has and has produced is insane every postion has a great or class player rb danilo can play rb he might not be the best rb in the world but hes very underrated eder militao has also played rb for real at times attackers brazil has vini,rodrygo,endrick,richarlison,martinelli, they also have world class talents its not that they lack talent or is overshadowed it the lack of an system or identity they cant keep relying on a "star player" they need to be able to play with or without their star player like if messi goes down we can say though not at the same level argentina can still play effectively even if you have the best player in the world if your team cannot play well together without you then that team is bound brazil needs to stop with the super star mentality relying on a hero performance every time they cannot keep expecting to wait for the next pele,r9,dinho,neymar they need to develop cohesion between the players they have now so that when they do get another pele,neymar,dinho,r9 he wont have to carry so much we can only expect so much from 1 player especially when there is 10 other players they need to be able to pull their own weight its frustrating to see vini become the ballon d'or winner and score all these goals for real then become so shit for brazil, paqueta and guimares be both two of the best midfielders in the prem then become mid af for brazil they have the talent and players just need a better coach and system and the motivation from the players we cant keep waiting for another generational talent sorry for the long rant just sad to see one of the reasons why i fell in love with the beautiful game become so shit
@@muslimcel4581 brazil have talent all around like ederson,allison are two of the best gks in the prem they lack motivation to play for the nation
@@JaDX243 hes a great talent but we cant just rely on one player the team as a whole needs to be able to pull their own weights cause if they do go down like neymar and his injury what they just gonna sit there and do fuck all? sorry im just frustrated to see such a great footballing nation become so shit
I mean, Brazil’s biggest problem isn’t their strike force… they have some of the best players… it’s further back in midfield and defence where they’re shaky and uninspiring
Argentina had problems with the defense/GK in the late 2010s, yet they were able to scare France in 2018 despite that obvious flaw! In 2022, they plugged in the gaps and the results speaks for itself! 😂😂😂
And the CBF
Brazil’s forwards are a bit overrated.
Brasilian here, the problem is the Europeanization of Brasilian football. We do not play like we used to, our players now go to Europe at such a young age that they lose their Brasilian football identity.
@jrsilva84 thats nothing new. Its been like that since the days of Romario and the early ninties sides. Didn't stop then from winning major competitions tho!
@@ianjustin4389 No there was still a stark difference in playstyles.
People are obsessed with attackers.
Fast and dumb players.
You guys need a Makelele or Ozil
Players considered boring or slow
I was a fan of your channel already but knowing you're a Benfica fan ... massive respect !!!!
There's a reason why Brazil is being "flooded" with Portuguese coaches. Brazilian coaches are slackers and the lack of game knowledge shows in recent generations of Brazilian players.
There's always a lot of chaos on the field and big gaps between sectors when you're watching a team coached by a Brazilian coach. Players need experienced coaches to bring the best out of them and chance that "slacker" mentality that older (and successful) generations didn't have.
Bring the germans then? But with rampant of corruption i cant see any german coaches last than a year.
Fun fact, Tite, Brazil ex coach, just lost a libertadores knockout game at the MARACANA to a uruguayan side whose squad value is 20x less than his (Flamengo). The defeat happened in the same way he lost to Croatia, losing control of the midfield.
@@diwgo2147 20x? You meant 200x?
You're right. I can't name a single good Brazilian coach.
Maybe Brazil should hire Vicente Del Bosque! 😝
Enjoying your channel and content.
Neymar definitely isn’t over hated, we just know how great he is and how his career could have been even better had he stayed with Barcelona or had better work ethic.
I think he means Ney is over hated in Brazil mostly, people here tend to use him as a scapegoat more times than not due to his actions off the pitch.. now that he’s been injured for a while the Brazilian people, who clearly just wanted someone to hate on, are finally noticing that his actions off the pitch don’t correlate with his skill on the pitch 😂
People in Brazil idealize celebrities too much, a lot of them get mad when someone famous demonstrates that they’re human
@@gameingbuddythe biggest gripe people here usually have with him is that he's a 32 year old dude who acts like a teenager (though, this was always reinforced by calling him "menino Ney" which roughly translates as "Ney boy".
He isn't accountable for his actions, is a prick (borderline toxic) with basically any woman he ever had a relationship with.
Yeah, he is talented, the best player Brazil has produced in the last 15 years, but was never diligent and had worse work ethic than gaúcho (that at least realized his full potential, though only for a few years).
Imagine Cristiano Ronaldo keeping the same mindset he had in his first stint at Man UTD, that's Neymar's whole career.
@@gabrielleite32 point proven, vlw meu rei
He has great work ethics. You guys at barca under appreciated him. All you guys saw was messi. When messi went out injured, neymar made sure you guys were on top. Despite him killing it, all you guys saw was messi. The messi and Ronaldo era killed a lot of great footballers because of football politics and a great focus on just individual development instead of team development. Messi is a good player, but he isn't an alien. Give that special treatment to most players and you would get the football of old we all loved. Now teams want to build around one player.
His abnormal involvement with politics also contributed to him being hated. Not many Brazilian players are that deep in endorsing politicians like he is.
Fire videos always on this channel 🔥
Excellent work guys, thanks for sharing.
A round of applause for you too. Love the breakdown.
Vini cares about money and being a professional racism victim, thinks of himself as the next Pele, when in reality he couldn't even tie Romario's shoelaces. He became more annoying than Neymar which is a feat itself.
No midfielders no party
And I just feel like the rest of the world has caught up
We need to stop talking about brazil like this without Pele they have the same amount of world cups as France 😂
Brazil was a super power until everyone learned to to trap their dribbler, dribbling do not win games anymore like Brazilian used to do
Neymar usually does the midfield functions in possession
@@RedeemTeam-fj8nk Pelé almost didn't play in the 62 WC, because he was injured in the beggining of the competition, and also he was not our best player in 58 and 70 neither.
@@TioPika-Pau he was the the best in 62 he was top 3 best players in 54 and 70🤷🏾♂️ regardless of that outside of that era they only have two world cups if we going to say Brazil fell off that means this process started in 06' when Zidane ran laps around that so called "golden generation"
The level of football and tactical savvy has increased across the board. No team will no longer dominate as usual. Flair and names are no longer enough.
Ah man, the Joga bonito era.... I remember all the game of that Super Team. There will never be a team like that....
As a brazillian i can say, a lot of People here still think we are the country of football just because we produce one great wing player every year, but we use to have a team full of talent, and not rely on one player alone, our players are averege, but our really problem is the coach role, we NEED a proper coach from outside Brazil, my dream is to see Pep or Ancelotti here, but people here are too pridefull to think about that and CBF is the worst thing in the game, full of corruption, scandalous and a disgrace for the country.
Boa analise do meu mano br.
And leave my Palmeiras goat coach Abel Ferreira out of CBF, he deserves better, and better is Palmeiras forever.
CBF que se foda.
Corrupção!!! Esse é o verdadeiro problema. Quem é brasileiro percebe isso facilmente através das convocações.
Essa é a verdadeira raiz do problema. O futebol brasileiro tá afundando pelo mesmo motivo que deixa o Brasil na lama
In Brazilian football exists in a unique type of culture, where many are looking for the figure of a father. The dressing room at a major European football club is now a multilingual and multicultural place. There are few elements in Brazilian society that can prepare a coach to deal with such diversity.
He will have a good generation in the next 5 or 10 years. This one was all about a man who couldn't win, but theoretically was unbeatable.
As a Brazilian, I approve of this message. Very good analysis
There is a video that talks about how Vini used to be made fun of in Brazil as a player who couldn't shoot. In the video you see these Brazilian tv personalities going off about how he doesn't deserve Madrid because "he came from the academy and can't even shoot". Maybe, just maybe Vini harbors some unresolved trauma from his time in Brazil that hangs over him whenever he plays for them.
😮 wow that actually makes sense
Brazils downfall started with people gaslighting the world into believing Vini is world class
He isn't. Its just that he has the glow of playing for Real Madrid. Low football iQ, dribbles unnecessarily and slows forward movement down, and makes bad decisions on the pitch...
@@ianjustin4389 thank you! I’m glad I’m not the only one that sees it lmao!
@@ianjustin4389 exact description
great analysis
Watch the talk by Bielsa when he talks about brazil. Its a fascinating lecture
When an Argentinian player retires, they next to year he is a coach. When a Brazilian player retires, he gets a job as TV commentator, politician, or disappear for good.
It goes to show that Brazil needs to relook into their coaching structure.
The fact Vini will have a ballon d’or and Neymar won’t makes me sick to my stomach
Brazil hasn't been good for a couple of decades tbh - the last world cup win was 2002, over 20 year ago. The issue is, all their players play in Europe so they are used to playing the pragmatic, possession-based style of the Euro leagues which means there is no room for Jogo Bonito - Brazil used to be known for individual brilliant players but the modern European game doesn't allow for that, it's all tactics, sideways passing, possession and pragmatism - this is at odds with Brazils spiritual way of playing - hence why they are so dull and uninspiring to watch and also unsuccessful.
it's pep who is responsible for this possession sideway passing football
Retranqueiro is a coach who plays more defensive waiting for the counter attack
…massive props to that Benfica Macau kit! A universalidade do clube e bons amigos a serem representados. 😊❤️🦅
As a Brazilian I can't believe this is the team we have when it's my turn to be alive. I was literally born a month before the 2002 WC, and since then we have been mediocre
Brazil were good even after 2002. I would say Brazil lost their soul after the 2014 world cup. They haven't really been the same since.
@@noname-ot7vd good by other country's metrics maybe. Getting knocked down by every European team we faced in a WC, most times at the quarterfinals isn't what we expect here in Brazil. Maybe wrongly, but we arrive at every WC as favorites, and getting knocked down at que quarter finals is always a huge disappointment
@@andredetoni897 Yet even in your current slump, you still make the QFs in World Cups! MOST other nations would KILL for such a base line level! 😝🤣
@@noname-ot7vd And seems like Germany have lost theirs too after that SoKor game in 2018! And don't get me started on Italy (ABSENT for TWO consecutive World Cups)! 🙈
I definitely agree about Neymar. He is far too criticized.
Neymar is fairly criticized. He ruined his career by leaving Barça for PSG and then not taking care of his health. Too many injuries, too many parties, too much alcohol, too little focus on football. He got what he deserved sports-wise I mean.
As a Brazilian, I can share a bit of the sentiment: there is a good portion of fans who aren't as concerned about this due to a peculiar situation. The clubs are in one of their best forms in recent decades, perhaps only surpassed by the 70s-80s when they arguably had some of the best teams in the world in their league.
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I remember when one of my favorite players, Alex, was not called up for the 2002 World Cup because there was so much talents in his position. The decline in Brazil's quality also involves a decline in personal confidence, personality and intelligence. It's not just in football that the country is doing badly, it's reflected in everything else. Germany's 7-1 defeat was just reality showing itself.
Your videos are so good man its insane
Brazil’s defence is sh!ttt, just look at Argentina's defence line, someone like Marseille's Balerdi can't even get into the team like now
You must be Argentinian ^^ None of Argentina's CB's would even get into brazil's team right now. I would accept Romero possibly
Bremer of Juventus and Marquinhos are great defenders.problem is the midfield
@@sergiolopes4738 that's the point? they're playing like a team. in 2022, they beat a Real Madrid-caliber squad (France) with (mostly) Europa League caliber players.
@@sergiolopes4738 Pezella played much better for Argentina than Bremer plays for Brazil, same goes for every other player. I would rather have Montiel of Argentina than Danilo of Brazil.
@sergiolopes4738 Yet they manage to keep winning tournaments, unlike Brazil 🤔
Italy: i am the fallen giant of international football
Brazil: *Hold my samba*
Germany: Oh shit!
0:34 RIP Sergio Mendes
Brazil's problems are the same as Portugal's, the coach
My opinion as a Brazilian is that Dorival shouldn't be the manager for the Seleção, we should've gone for someone like Abel Ferreira but I believe the higher ups in the CBF don't want a foreigner as head coach, our second problem is the CBF, the CBF president is useless and there's no organization within the CBF, for an example our player got stuck in Las Vegas after the loss to Uruguay in Copa America because there were no logistics to get them back to Brazil, Paquetá might've enjoyed his extra time in Las Vegas tho, and our 3rd problem is the Striker position, Dorival Júnior doesn't trust Endrick just yet and our "best" option is Pedro who plays for Flamengo, other than those two, there's no reliable choice to a number 9, Richarlison hasn't been called up ever since he admitted having depression and he wasn't reliable anyway, Evanilson was called up but never played, Matheus Cunha and Rodrigo Muniz weren't ever considered and so on
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I can’t believe you didn’t mention the cat.
Oh shit! The collab I didn’t know I needed!
Fillipom is correct I never understood the hate and comparison to Mesi and Ronaldo, and people get stuck in this and forget to appreciate hit talent as is and his as different player....... I love Neymar. But the Brazillian Ronaldo (all my highschool football debates)
Its a lack of coaching and not talent. Not a single brasilian coach has the tactical knowledge to coach at this level anymore .
The way we play is outdated and relys completely pure talent .
Yet our cbf inisists on using Brasilian coaches .
Them trying to get carlo was the best move they ever thought of and thats the exact type of coach they need.
Someone who lets the players play their game . But also sets them up tactically
Brazil are the most successful and iconic national football team in the world, having won a record five FIFA World Cups in the men's game, and boasting legends of the game like Pelé, Zico, and Ronaldo.
Since winning their last World Cup in 2002 though, Brazil have reached just one semi-final on home soil in 2014, where they lost 7-1 against Germany, and have been sent packing in the quarter finals at every other tournament.
I think that a very important aspect of the fact that we don't win anymore is that our playstyle is increasingly becoming more rigid and extremely tactical to mirror Europe playstyle, but this is something that the europeans are good at, not the brazilians.
Brazil has always been strong when it had more fluidity and collective creativity and this has been controlled and discouraged by the latest coaches.
It’s crazy to see that raw Brazilian playing style & flair slowly diminish.
I know it’s due to a lot of Brazilian players playing in Europe but hopefully their style of football is preserved.
Delusional nonsense.Your team has done nothing for decades.Overrated crap.
Spot on. Brazilian culture brews natural talent in football. The rigidity of the european style of tactics sucks the talent away in the Brazilian context.
Be careful to not fall into results-oriented thinking.
Since winning te WC in 2002, Brazil hasn't missed a single knockout (only Argentina did the same). If you look at the elimination games, in 2010, 18 and 22 they were very close and nobody would bat an eye. Every champion needs a little luck here and there and in those occasions, we didn't have it. It seems like all of our luck was reserved for the 2014 WC (the only time where advancing through the round of 16 felt like a hard task).
A good reason for we not winning anymore is mostly because other teams are becoming better and fine margins are becoming more and more decisive. Argentina won the last World Cup but in every round besides the semi-finals, they were close to elimination. For 3 minutes in the last WC, we had Costa Rica and Japan advancing over Spain and Germany. Brazil is still one of the few (if not the only) national teams who didn't have to really worry about a group stage elimination in this century.
I was at that Copa America game vs Costa Rica. On paper a very talented young in practice they had no clue how to break down a team like Costa Rica
There is no substitute for Neymar at the moment. And it doesn't look like there will be anytime soon.
We'll never see teams like 1994-2002 Brazil ever again.
As a coach, i agreed with everything you guys said, but I wanted to add something, not only they failed without a playmaker ( Neymar) and good coaching, furthermore, they have never been a generation with so many weak full-backs; BRAZIL cannot be a contender when their full-backs ( Right or left, or both) are not among the best in the World, defensively and offensively. If you look at all the Brazil teams who won the World Cup, even the ones of 1982-1986 who failed, one strong point was the full-backs who always scored. So they have to produce 2 great ones for 2030. For me even if they qualify for 2026, this generation is too weak, even Neymar who passes his prime cannot help them much.
Neymar has always been far too disrespected in his career. Even if people think he never reached his full potential, he was always been a top player right behind Ronaldo and Messi
It's not even that Brazil aren't that good anymore. Squads go up and down over generations. It's more that they don't even slightly play like Brazil. There's an expectation of Brazilian football that is being creative and flowing and entertaining, attacking. I haven't seen them play 'Brazilian' football for maybe 10-15 years now. It's sad.
But how many times does Brazil have these downs? It’s not the first time.
But everytime they have that one glimmer of hope - there seems to be good that comes.
Estevao is that hope
There is a fundamental point beyond all of these well-commented points. In the past, players' main dream was to play for the national team, but nowadays their biggest dream is to play in Europe, in the Champions League, to wear the Real Madrid or Manchester City jersey, for example. And they achieve this dream at 17, 18, 19, 20 years old. The national team becomes a mere detail, almost an obligation. And this is not their fault, it is how business is organized today. Something similar happens with fans.
Maybe Brasil should try a 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 for a change, since they lack great fullbacks but have too many great left and right wingers.
As always though, it's gonna be incredibly difficult for a National team coach to get their system together. It's why it's obviously super important that you get your best national coach ASAP, so they don't have to figure out up until the WC what style of football/system to really play in. Because those two matches and one or two weeks training on international, especially when you have current Brazil with players from such different playing teams. Is gonna be incredibly difficult to pull off, and they may only find their stride in the WC itself like that.
My god finally someone started talking about it.
The sport has declined - rather than Brazil. They have the same talent as ever, and still kings of football to me
We got Ethan page talking about football before GTA 6.
Excellent analysis.
As someone who grew up to the 98 and 02 teams, I guess this is a “return to the mean” situation. We literally had 3 or even 4 of the best players in the world IN THE SAME team. We should appreciate how absurdly unreal that was and be glad that it happened. The national team’s current state is just what “normal” looks like and we are not used to it
I was at the Brazil vs Colombia game and Brazil felt really lackluster. That being my first game I got to see, made me slightly disappointed.
Dorival Jr is the problem. The CBF need to get rid of him because if they dont he is going to shame what is a proud footballing nation. The reason as to why Brazil are struggling is not because of lack of talent- Brazil is never short of talent! Its simply because they are not well coached. Thats the difference between them and Argentina (proper coaching). Until they resolve that they will continue to struggle.
All 3 teams are not doing good Brazil, Italy, and Germany. In the past all 3 teams have won more world cups than rest of the world combined.
I agree 100% about Neymar's underappreciation for what he's accomplished, in fact is the most Brazilian Goal scorer in history (That's a huge accomplishment in Brazil). Won trophies (a lot of Trophies). So what! Neymar didn't win the World Cup (at least we saw Football History).