The kids of Queen Maxima of The Netherlands don't have the Argentinian Passport, unless they were born in argentinian soil. Here in Argentina is applayed the law of Ius Soli, but not the law of Ius Sangini, this means (with few exceptions for diplomatic staff or gobernment expats) that only the children born in argentina are born with the nationality. (sorry for being the "🤓☝" guy, have a nice day ! )
Anyone with one argentine parent can get the nationality automatically, but they have to request it. I'm guessing the kids of the consort Queen don't have the argentine passport.
Fun fact the children of the queen en king of the netherlands are only about 25% dutch. The queen comes from Argentina, and the queen has a German father and a dutch mother
That's not why they're rivals.. they became rivals initially because they would always end competing for promotion against each other and then had 2 managers that basically hated each other. Brighton changed their nickname from the dolphins to the seagulls to mock Palace
The rivalry is multi-sport (it includes hockey as well), but it's mainly based on competitiveness. It just happens that Argentina Netherlands are matches that end up having an intensity equal to derbys. The 2022 match was as intense and funnier than the finals.
nah, the final was the best ever played in the story of football, 3 - 3 and prime football levels in both teams. people say its rigged but argentina deserved to win and france got 2 penalties, how is that rigged???
Yeah, I think Van Gaal actively avoided having South American players in his club teams... at least so I've heard... apparently we, South Americans are too lazy... we?... lazy?.... naaaaahhh!!! lol
Van Gaal didn't like some mexican players either, pretty sus, I think no one wants to say it but the man might have something against a certain race which basically makes him a bit of a racist
Van Gaal just hates all Spanish speaking players, it's no secret, and it's not specific to DiMaria. He thinks they're all lazy, he's even said it in interviews
I would say that Argentina's playing style and Netherlands' would eventually clash no matter what. They both have the same "football soul", being their attack style trickful (more like Brazil, not like Spain), defense style near-violent (more like Uruguay, not like Italy), structure-free (not a mess like Brazil, nor a rock solid like Germany, but free as France), and moody (not passive as Portugal and Japan, neither always provocative Brazil and Italy... just moody as Germany). They are like doppelgänger, just waiting to prove who is the real one by hunting each other.
soy argentino y siempre note que Holanda/paises bajos era como la argentina de europa futbolisticamente jaja tienen mucha pasion para ser un pais europeo y por eso siempre los respete mucho❤
19:34 as a native Dutch speaker who’s lived in Argentina this is actually a wrong translation. I watched the press conference and van gaal said that Messi in possession is an amazing player (imo the best) but doesn’t defend along out of possession
@@Nabhutoplease make a video about Germany's football dominance in the world cup and why theyre better in the world cup rather than the euros. Id love to watch it.😅
@@Arjonko It was a proto colony to call it a personal union is braindead because it was a set of estates, duchies, counties and vassaliages and a highly disunified area all united by the same rulers the Netherlands was built of spanish oppostion as the unifying reason luckily they shared a culture to keep them together after the spanish were no longer the common reason if there was one state like the Duchy of Brabant that was the dominant power over the entire region that then fell under the dominion of Spain a PU would be a perfect term or if Burgundy was still around as the middle power between them but no the lowlands were an inherited territory from Austria with low centrilisation you've just played EU4 a couple times and think the terms and statuses in the game are applicable to real history when in reality it was much more complicated than that map games are just that map games they aren't one to one with real life get of your screen read a history book.
Just one correction : while the 78' wc was used as a face cleaner by the dictatorship, it is false that it was "organized" by the dictatorship, as Argentina being the world cup location was set far before the military coup
Argentina has a bigger intercontinental rivalry against Germany and England than against the Netherlands, although the England rivalry is for other reasons outside of football
Netherlands and England hate eachother when you talk about the latest euros. England and Netherlands both hate Germany even more, and when Argentina joins all three teams can agree to hate Argentina.
I find the whole Argentina-Germany-Netherlands triad funny, since all three have beefs with each other. In fact, I would rank them like this, in order of more heated to less heated historically: Germany-Netherlands (this goes back to WWII). Argentina-Germany (this goes back to having legendary matches and three finals in the World Cup). Argentina-Netherlands (they used to be the more chill rivalry, but 2022 was a true battle, so this could change in the future).
I think Argentines would most likely consider Germany a rival, is one DEU-ARG is one if not the most repeated match in WC history with 3 finals along the way, and even if Germany usually takes out Argentina in the World Cup in their entire match history is actually Argentina who has the lead
As an Argentine I can confirm that Brasil, England, Germany, Uruguay and the Netherlands are considered more or less our football rivals. In that particular order.
A lot of Argentines consider Germany our biggest intercontinental rival but really that's not the case. They've beaten us the last four times we've met in the WC, including two finals. They own us lol The Netherlands or England are our true intercontinental derby
@@clbl There is a difference between "nobody" and "still young to play" Currently, one out of 17 players is called up to the senior national teams. But this was 1978, according to me the youngest was Mario Alberto Kempes with 21 y.o.
@@clblnah, he was up and coming like Messi in 2006, the issue was back then you could call less players than today (22) and we took 3 goalkeepers. If the 23 man squad had been a thing he most likely would have been called, more so if you could call 26 like in the last WC.
Also that is not what Louis van Gaal said he said that Messi was still in attack one of the best but when it comes to defending he doesn't help so there might been there some chances
As a Dutchman, I don't really view Argentina as a traditional rival. Our countries have played a lot of memorable games but there isn't any tension between us outisde of football. Our Queen hails from Buenos Aires. Our main rivalry was with the Germans, which spawned because of our hatred and resentment following Nazi occupation in WW2. As for Argentina, their rivalry with Brazil is very logical since they're the biggest countries in South America. And their feud with England is rooted in the Falkland/Malvinas conflict. As much as I hated the Argentines in 2022. I respect their fighting spirit and beautiful kit, which contrasts very nicely with our orange kit. I'm actually going to visit Buenos Aires very soon and i'm very excited about it. However, do Argentinians view us as a main rival? I'm quite curious.
As an Argentinian, I wouldn’t say ur like our main rivals, but outside South America you are in the top 3 for me. 1-Germany 2-Nether lands 3-France But in a general ranking it would look like this: 1-Brazil 2-Germany 3-Uruguay 4-The Dutch 5-England (it would be higher but we haven’t played in 20+ years) 6-France (it will be higher in years to come
This, I agree with this comment from the Netherlands, and I'm Spanish but raised here and share the same feeling. Only rivalry I heard about was Riquelme and van Gaal, not Netherlands vs Argentina.
I agree. The games can get heated, but both teams and fans have great respect for each other. The long history shows that neither team underestimates the other.
@@Yutobe098 No touching the ball is a foul.. but not all fouls get you a yellow card. If every foul got you a yellow card almost half of the players in a match would be sent off
Im from Argentina, and call this rivalry sounds weird to me. Yes, players make the matches kinda violent for different reasons, but if you start asking argentinians what they consider the biggest rival, most will say brazil, others will say GB, some little will say Uruguay or Germany, but mostly no one will say Neatherlands. I dont even think of they as a rivals in that sense.
We think they are big crybabies, like Mexico and Colombia, the type of fans and sometimes players that throw the first stone and then hide the hand, so when Argentina hits back they try to makes us seem like bad guys, bad winners or sore losers. There is no rivalry, just pure disgust for that kind of cowardice.
@@laslo9463 Did you already forget what happened in 1990 and 2014? They robbed us and we weren't crying as much as all of you who seem to hate Argentina lol
It’s mostly on Argentinas side. A lot of Argentinians are still butt hurt by a match they won because they knew they nearly bottled it. Which is absolutely true.
@@fwhotlook at the recent controversy with Enzo Fernandez. They were shitting on the French team while competing in the Copa America (a tournament France or any European nation has never competed in). When they won the WC they couldn’t stop talking about France. Argentinian supporters haven’t stopped talking about France for nearly two years now. That’s because Argentina nearly bottled a lead and France gave every single Argentinian a heart attack when Kolo Muani got past the back line. I’ve never seen a nation still butt hurt about a match they won.
@@Mac10Demarcobecause Mbappe kept talking shit about South American football. After losing to a South American team in the world cup Mbappe doubled down with the Euro being tougher than the world cup... And that's why France got to the quarter finals without scoring a single goal.... 🤦
Great video! One important thing missing, that adds to the narrative, is that the equalizer play was, in deed, played first by Argentina in the 1998 WC against England, so that is an extra bit of spice into the game.
19:38 im sorry brother you got it all wrong. He means he doesnt press when the opponent has the ball. The first part is van gaal stating that messi is the most dangerous player on the ball in the world
Everyone interpreted it wrong, it’s so frustrating as a dutchman haha! There actually was alot of respect. It was only stated, which is factually true, that messi indeed didn’t press much when opponents have the ball and there our chances laid.
@@lperea21I promise you no one misinterpreted this on purpose just to pump Messi. The entire country still hates van gaal, also because of what he did to Riquelme and Di María.
I've never seen this channel before, but I'm really impressed! I had no idea the rivalry went this deep! The Dutch commentator calling the winning goal by Bergkamp in the 98 World Cup match is absolutely legendary. If I'm having a bad day, I just pull up that video and in less than a minute I'm feeling pretty happy again! Search for crazy Dutch commentator Bergkamp goal. It doesn't matter if you don't speak the language. I don't either. It doesn't even matter if you're not a football fan. You have an entertaining narration style and I can't believe an American knows Tintin!! Subscribed!! 🙏🎃⚽️
Loved Your video Bro. Since 86 when I saw Argentina win the WC as a kid, I've been a huge Argentina fan, except when they play my home country. Always been a fan of the Dutch team as well. Thank You for the Energy and Love You put into it. It was funny, witty and interesting. Top 4 macthes with most booking include The Netherlands 3 times... at least they are winning there... 😅
That 2022 game had my heart rate jumping, especially when Wout Weghorst did those two goals, the dream felt impossible. The battle of Lusail will definitely be talked about for years to come
This was such an informative and enjoyable video to watch. Perfect memes added in, too, for comedic effect, and the right amount. The VVD part took me out! YNWA Excellent vid.
As an Argentinian I should say that our rivalries with Germany and England would probably be more passionate. Especially England as it is reciprocated.
This was such an informative and enjoyable video to watch. Perfect memes added in, too, for comedic effect, and the right amount. The VVD part took me out! YNWA Excellent vid. Subscribed.
Simple. Argentinia is the Netherlands of Sout America and the Netherlands is the Argentinia of Europe. And two of the same entities cannot exist in the same space.
In terms of trophies and football history alone Argentina is several categories above the Dutch. The similarity you claim is very hard to notice, whether it's the style of play or the respective demographics. One might have understood if you'd compared Argentina to Italy for example.
Really entertaining video but brother there are only so many windows error and vine boom sound effects I can take😂 Try to use more different sound effects because the content is great
Weghosrt ended up in Manchester United as a teammate of Lisandro Martinez, who said they would jokingly nickname him "bobo" in the dressing room as the tensions were already over by then.
bro just making shit up now, no one in Argentina thinks of this a rivalry I'm pretty sure it's the same for the Dutch, having one heated match isn't a rivalry.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. There’s definitely an excitement because both teams like to get real physical. Because the talent level is so high but there’s no second level to it. It’s not personal though it’s just football. England or Brazil there’s something extra. Personal pride is at stake not just for the team for the country.
van Gaal didn’t say Messi couldn't create chances. He said Messi didn’t participate in the defence. Which is true, so the 'chance' that he was talking about is one less player of the opponent in defence.
I still don't understand why Argentina thought that Van Gaal was taking shit about them. He merely expressed that he wasn't afraid of facing them, and that they had weaknesses that could be exploited. He said that when being repeatedly bombarded with criticism from dutch reporters that he had no chance. How is that talking shit? If you say beforehand that you're probably going to lose and that the opponent is unbeatable, you might as well not even play.
you didn't tell me 2 important things: 1. Messi should have received a red card for the obvious handball, but the ref sleeps under a Messi blanket. 2. the Argentinian fans started shining lasers on the Dutch's heads during the penalties. this prevented them from being focused.
Being from Argentina, this is one of my personal favorite matchups. Idk how the Dutch see it, but on our side we wouldn't really call it a "rivalry" more like a heated matchup. It's still always a great game, there's just a decent amount of teams we'd rather beat at the wc before them (Brazil, Germany, England for example) Although I do think we have the upper hand in the face-off, beating them in a WC final and owning them after they talked smack in 2022, I gotta respect that Bergkamp goal that shattered our dreams back then. Would be nice to cross paths again in 2026.
We don't really see it as a rivalry either. In fact, leading up to this match, we didn't see it as anything special at all, simply a matchup with one of the strongest teams in the world. I'd say it was the Argentinians interpreting what our players and manager said as "smack talk" which turned up the heat before the match, when for us it was simply a discussion of the gameplan. I guess that was a culture clash of our blunt openness with your ability to get riled up and use that positively, which caught us out as you don't want to motivate your opponent. With how the match played out and the fallout after the match, Argentina has probably become the closest thing to a football enemy we currently have, but I guess that will fade with time like it did with Spain in the 2010s or Portugal in the 00s.
@@Floris2211 They called Messi useless and undermined us all week. Not everything is covered and translated perfectly in this video. And cmon we both watched the match 🤣 we owned them on the pitch and psychologically
@@tirodeesquina6458 We didn't call Messi useless. Indeed, it's not translated perfectly as this video presents a way harsher take than we actually had. What was really said was that Messi in possession is Argentina's most dangerous player, but out of possession can be a passenger. Which is not inaccurate: Messi often takes moments during a match to rest and save his energy for moments in which he can make the difference, but that does mean that when he is resting his team has a man less to defend. This was mentioned as a weakness in Argentina's game we might be able to exploit, but you've probably seen that translated as if Messi himself was seen a weakness, which is of course far from the truth.
Stop spreading lies. Ee never called messi shit or talked smack. So either you are blatently lying and twisting words or are a total crybaby seeing any comments as smack talk You dominated most of the game but barely created any big chances. Than near the end of the game almost gave it away and got away lucky but deserved
Very strange that the Argentines shouldve had 3 red cards in the last game and got 0 (Romero hand ball, Paredes tackle + shooting the ball into the dug out, Messi first yellow card + handball)
There are a lot of lies/falsehoods in your video. I sensed a bit of an anti-argentinean sentiment, because of the way you twisted many facts. *1st and biggest one, as someone already pointed it out, is the main topic of the video: There is no rivalry with the Dutch, your video is clearly forced towards this, I guess to sensationalize it, but why the need? yeah 2022 was a heated match, doesn't make it a rivalry though. Argentina has one rival and one rival only: Brazil. That's it. *2nd, as someone who watched every 1978 WC game, there was no match "skewed in Argentina's favor". Argentina actually had a penalty called against them against Poland and lost to Italy, which caused them to have to travel a lot for the second round, in the 4th minute against italy there is a clear penalty on Kempes and the referri called it outside when it was clearly in. There was no glaring referri mistake in favor of Argentina throughout the whole tournament, if you find one, please show it to all of us. In turn, the Dutch scored 4 penalties in that WC, same amount of Penalties Argentina scored in 2022. Then I guess FIFA rigged it for the Dutch right? *3rd, the "later times kickoffs" was an already established practice to benefit the host nation, that existed before this WC. Germany, for example, in 1974 as a host, ALSO received the benefit of playing at later times in their two biggest games before the final. Funny how facts can change the narratives uh? *4th Oh yes! the "Peru game" that started so many myths and Legends to which there are no solid proofs or concrete evidence. I'll show you an undeniable proof though, Peru hit the woodwork twice, yes TWICE within the first 15min of that game. So explained to me how a team, that suposedly threw the game, would try so hard to score. Unless they intentionlly hit the woodwork to make it look less suspicious, but if they could do that, don't you think they could win the whole thing? I've seen many documentaries, some dedicated exclusively to that game, the peruvians always denied throwing the game because the reality is they were already eliminated and Argentina knew how many goals they needed. That's it, there is no conspiracy. The whole myth behind the "tons of grains" or "favors" is just that, myths. The fact is, Argentina and Peru always enjoyed a great relationship and Argentina sent them many shipments before and after that WC. This is a case of a lie or "suspicion" being repeated so much until people believed it. I heard soo many ridiculous myths, I'm surprised you didn't include the one where the whole Argentina team played doped up and in the doping test one turned out to be pregnant, that's the best one I heard. *5th, Fernandez Moores was not talking about match fixing when he was referring to political manipulations. He was referring to the fact that the military dictatorship used the WC as a distraction from the atrocities they were commiting, a distraction they would have gotten no matter what, since no one knew what was going on until many years later. *6th, and this one bothers me because you are clearly LYING. Cruyff didn't reveal his reason for quitting the national team for DECADES, which led to speculations like the one you proposed. In fact, the screenshot you used "other reasons given for Cruyff..." were not reasons given by HIM. You are clearly manipulating facts. Cruyff finally revealed the reason in his autobiography (which I read) and indeed it was the attempted kidnapping a year before the WC and stated it had NOTHING to do with the Argentinean government. He didn't want to leave his family after that traumatic event. The dictatorship DIDN'T play a role as he said it himself. 7th, the WC final. In this one you twisted so many facts: 7a, van de Kerkhof was NOT forced to add extra Bandages during the game, that was actually the reason for the delay at the START of the game. There were no "delaying tacticts". Ardiles noticed at the initial handshake that van de Kerkhof was wearing a cast, I don't know if you ever seen or touched one, those things are hard as stone, it could hurt someone. I actually don't know what the rules said at the time, but if you don't agree that playing with a cast is dangerous and can cause injury, you lack common sense. It doesn't matter if no one complained in previous games, he shouldn't have worn it. 7b, The final that the Dutch lost... "some say controvertially". Really? who says? I like it how you showed no source, not evidence, and aparently the controversy, or rather, the reason the Dutch lost was delaying the match because Ardiles didn't want the guy smashing a cast into someone's head. Did you see ANY controversy during the game? any bad call? anything? search it, you won't find none. The Anti Argentinean sentiment is pretty strong here. 7c, The dutch felt they've been robbed of a WC? why don't they talk to resenbrink for hitting the post in the last minute of the game, had that gone in they would have won, which proves inequivocally, that they lost well. 7d, The first goal by kempes was not a one on one situation, you cannot even describe what's in your own video. 8th "how Paredes wasnt' sent off"? how about how Van dijk wasn't sent off for literally assaulting Paredes, that is a straight Red looking at your face. The fact that you only see one side comfirms my suspicion. Paredes was booked for the tackle, show me anyone, ANYONE in all of football who got booked for kicking the ball out into the bench or the crowd. The only one I can think of is van persie in the Arsenal-Barca game in the UCL, but that was for ignoring the ref's whistle, not for kicking the ball into the crowd. No one ever got booked for kicking the ball out, and Paredes didn't even hit anyone. 9th "there weren't too many chances in the extra time I'm not gonna lie". Well... you are lying, did you even watch the game? Extra time was ALL Argentina, Enzo hit the woodwork and had another shot deflected that passed near, Lautaro had two great chances, Di Maria almost scored an olimpico. Di Maria! the fact that Scaloni played him in Extra time contradicts your stament of "being scared of taking chance and going forward". Argentina was ALL going forward throughout both extra times, the dutch didn't even cross the half line. It was Arguably Argentina's peak performance in the whole WC, those extra times against the Dutch. Anyway, there are a couple more but those are the ones that bothered me the most. I think you were trying too hard to push this "rivalry narrative" that you didn't prioritise facts or context. We don't hate the Dutch at all and I'm sure they don't hate Argentina. Little fact you probably didn't know, their Queen is from Argentina and the royals visit quite often, so both nations are very connected.
I saw the words that I’m “anti-Argentinian” (I wanted Argentina to win the World Cup since minute one) and I just simply didn’t wanna read the rest of this. Sorry boss 🫡🫡
@Nabhuto yeah, I'm sure I wouldn't want to be proven wrong either. Also, I actually said I senced an anti argentina sentiment, because you said many untruths. Thank you for confirming by not denying. If you actually want argetina to win why so many lies?
@@Nabhuto Also, i didn't post the comment for you but for anyone watching your video thinking you did good research. If I get one or two people reading it and realising how much you got wrong, that's good for me.
@@Nabhuto sorry if you don't wanna read this you're clearly scared to be proven wrong, and he made a good comment that surgically tears apart a lot of the things about Argentina you've said on the video
Bro settle down with the windows soundeffect. This really is a good informative and interesting video, however the unnecessary overused soundeffects really get annoying after a while.
Now, Argentina has another rival since summer 2024 : France. That's because of the multiple racist comments by some Argentinians supported by their governments. But it goes beyond football because at the Olympics, each France vs Argentina game was a bit heated. Including the men's football quarter final and blind football final, both ending with France's victory. As a French, it's great to have a new rival despite the reasons. I still have respect for Argentina because I've met cool persons who hate these racist comments.
French accusing another country of racism after decades of colonialism and threating their black players as animales IF THEY LOSE is just another eternal way of european hipocresy
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 I'm one of these black persons. Racism is worse in my country because it's not as opened as the USA or Argentina. We're trying our best to condemn it. My former favourite team, Olympique de Marseille, is doing a lot to fight against racism.
@@stanyamish3996 Well if you are black i salute you and wish you good luck on that noble struggle. But as an argentinian i will like to clarify that while we make violent jokes of ANYONE (specially the british) we arent as racist as the european press will let you belive . Im proud that my country never had segregation policies (like the US had or Israel has) never conditioned voting (like the US did and Europe still does) and never forbid any religious practice (like France does)
I believe that us and The Dutch collide because we pretty similar in styles and the way we experience football. Two passionate rivals will always and up having heated match. Looking backwards that game was one of the most enjoyable games of WC. Respect to the Netherlands from Argentina!!
As Argentinian, Netherlands is one of our best rivals and that's all. There isn't a sense of hate towards them. We do hate Van Ghal. I justify this with the t-shirts I see everyday here. You see lots of people wearing Netherland's, Brazil's or Spanish outfits and nobody cares (they are just good rivals) (with Spain there is a friendship bond this recents years). Real hate, that you won't see anyone here wearing is a English t-shirt. Mexico and Chile hate us, but we don't give a shit about them
You do probably not speak Dutch so I will explain this. Within the Netherlands Van Gaal is also a subject of jokes, especially considering his poor way of speaking both English and German. His football knowledge and effort during the WC 22 is admired here. His generally egotistical and smug persona is ridiculed among Dutch people, generally. In spite of the former, Van Gaal is also very active in charity innitiatives, mostly concerning children, which many people don't seem to know about. In the end he is likely a good man.
@@anong1470 probably he is a good guy, but as the video said, he hasn't been good to argentinians so is understandable why we have bad feeling towards him
Something interesting was that before the WC in Qatar, van Gaal wanted to call up Tim Krul again just for the penalty shoot outs. Tim Krul did not want to go because he wanted to spend more time with his family...
As an Argentinian, it kinda makes sense when the military junta ruling our country sent some guys to kidnap Netherland's best player and the world's best player at the time, Johann Cruyff in 1977. He ended up not taking part in the 78 World Cup citing fear of leaving his family alone, despite no definitive ties between the junta and the kidnappers being established. Netherlands still made it to the final anyways, but lost it to us. But few to none Argentinians have any illusions about that World Cup being won fair and square, that's why we used to celebrate way more the 86 World Cup. It doesn't help that being two very good teams most of the time we find each other a lot in World Cups, and even better for a rivalry it happens in knockout stages. We love and hate facing the Dutch. Massive respect for their football style and we always know it's gonna be an epic game, but one that we can loose any day. 😂
I'll reply in English so everyone can understand. ARE YOU CRAZY?? What makes you think the Argentine dictatorship had anything to do with Cruyff's incident? I've never heard anyone say that, not even the most conspiracy-minded football fans. Are you trying to spread misinformation on purpose?
No one in Argentina cares about the Netherlands, they choose to pick on France for the recent games, England because of many political conflicts since the XIX century, and Germany because it's the game that's been played the most in the World Cup (the most repeated final too, and they always struggle against them in competitions). It's the dutch who hate Argentina because of what you said in the video.
@@dutchshark1580 All latin americans are descendants of Europeans and africans And in Argentina you have a mix that comes from many centuries. You have black, native, and spanish ancestry from the pre independence era and also many European and Asian ancestry from the late XIXth century. Not the same as just buying out first generation migrants or people born in another continent. Most of those players only choose to play for European federations because of money, on the other hand you've got players like Garnacho who chose Argentina because of love. In a hundred years there will still exist Argentina, but there will be no dutch (based since the dutch are calvinists)
@@juanjoseph so with that logic, in a few centuries, you would consider those black players Dutch and not Africans? Odd. And no, most of those players choose to play for those countries because they were born and raised there, just like all black Dutch players. And quite a few of the “Africans” are mixed with Dutch blood as well. It’s just a generic and corny way of bashing a national team by talking about ethnicity
I don't know why "black players" playing in historically white countries even matters. Who cares? If Argentina had black players that were good enough to make the team they would absolutely use them. Why wouldn't they?
Im Dutch and I like Argentina as a country. But im still mad for the Qatar WC match where i think Lahoz (referee) was the worst you could choose for such a great game. He let that game explode. But still it was nice to see you winning. A real footballcountry.
🇦🇷 here, in 1978 Argentina played on the late time of each round, instead of both games being played simultaneously as other countries did. This was one clear deviation from the rules, among others in that cup.
What's funny about it is that they have the most wins, but like...we came on top of the most important matches overall. One world cup final, 2 draws where we eliminated them in penalties, one to get to a final the other to get to a semifinal.
Kind of like the fact that Argentina have sent home the Dutch in two consecutive World Cups (2014, 2022), which were two occasions where van Gaal was the coach and the Dutch had an undeserved sense of entitlement about them. Dutch meanwhile still talking about Bergkamp's wonder goal while ARG are winning the World Cup and Copa America titles.
exactly! they are just bad losers who allways play dirty. And there is not a truly rivalry between Argentina and the Netherlands, they just hate ARgentina because they had lost the most important matches in recent years. Its similar to what happens in Mexico, for them, ARgentina is their most hated rival but Argentina doesnt give a fuc*
Maybe u could say the same for half of germany italy and that only wc of england.. but ofc they are differents 💫europeans💫 dont cheat and theyre never favoured 😌
I want to highlight something Messi said after the 2022 match. "Van Gaal sells that he knows how to play good football, but all he does is send in cross after cross." Talking after the match, not before 🤫
bruh don‘t forget the battle of Nürnberg! rivalry of netherlands and portugal goes deep man, it’s more then just football, the rivalry runs deep in our history. to fully understand you have to go back to the X-VI century.
as a dutch person, i was a fan of messi when i was younger. after the WC quarter final with that dumb f'in referee, i realised that messi is really a narcissist. i hate the guy so much now, and you bet i think that world cup was rigged to let argentina win
@@levivandergraaf4025 I'm not going to give solid arguments to a guy whose tail has been on fire since that final, eternally with the finger in your butt.
@@levivandergraaf4025 It is already more than obvious that using the argument "I hate Messi" and "the cup was rigged" is an eternal crybaby argument, that his team was not up to the task and they do not know how to accept a defeat
Dutch commentary when dennis bergkamp scored: DENNIS BERGKAMP! DENNIS BERGKAMP! DENNIS BERGKAMP! GOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL! Just look it for your self it was realy funny😂
As an argentinian I can say... this is a REALLY one sided rivalry. Argentina pretty much don't care about the duch. Our "rivals" in europe for us, are England and Germany(this is a pretty much one sided rivalry for our part now)
@@icanthinkofahandlelol World Cup 1: dictatorship that rigged the entire World Cup. World Cup 2: hand of god. World Cup 3: undeserved win over the Netherlands due to many refereeing mistakes in the favor of Argentina. Also Euros are harder to win than the cops America and it isn’t even close. The Netherlands have had more world class players but we are very unlucky in world cups and even in the euros this year, I don’t think we would’ve beaten Spain but England did not deserve that penalty.
Argentine here (and also a Netherlands fan). Congratulations for a very precise video. Argentines do believe Netherlands is a modern clásico, akin to the historic Uruguay rivalry and over another unsual intercontinental rivalry, that of England. All info is spot-on.
That's kinda cool to hear as a Dutchie. I thought Argentina just kinda had rivalries with anyone (Germany and England come to mind). I kinda assumed that Argentinians didn't care about us nearly as much as some of us do about you lot.
@@edgeman1135well we do have rivalries with many teams, but it is a sign of respect. We have great respect for the Netherlands. But don't expect any kisses on the pitch 😊
Fun fact the queen of the Netherlands (wife of the king) is Argentinian. So basically their kids have a Dutch and Argentinan passport.
The kids of Queen Maxima of The Netherlands don't have the Argentinian Passport, unless they were born in argentinian soil. Here in Argentina is applayed the law of Ius Soli, but not the law of Ius Sangini, this means (with few exceptions for diplomatic staff or gobernment expats) that only the children born in argentina are born with the nationality.
(sorry for being the "🤓☝" guy, have a nice day ! )
Anyone with one argentine parent can get the nationality automatically, but they have to request it. I'm guessing the kids of the consort Queen don't have the argentine passport.
@@estelinkesnuevoclips6127 Yeah, you're wrong. Ciudadanía por Opción is the name of it.
Fun fact the children of the queen en king of the netherlands are only about 25% dutch. The queen comes from Argentina, and the queen has a German father and a dutch mother
The King of The Netherlands is actually from originality German. So the Dutch (me included) are being led by a German and Argentinian basically😂
Some rivalries are just weird, like Palace and Brighton just for having birds in their logos lol
That's not why they're rivals.. they became rivals initially because they would always end competing for promotion against each other and then had 2 managers that basically hated each other. Brighton changed their nickname from the dolphins to the seagulls to mock Palace
@@footballhipstertv Oh, thanks. I knew it had something to do with the birds but I never knew the rest.
😂😂😂
it’s a fight for who the biggest bird is
@@footballhipstertvplus a brighton player was injured by a Palace player and he never played football again. Further adding to the rivalry
The rivalry is multi-sport (it includes hockey as well), but it's mainly based on competitiveness. It just happens that Argentina Netherlands are matches that end up having an intensity equal to derbys. The 2022 match was as intense and funnier than the finals.
nah, the final was the best ever played in the story of football, 3 - 3 and prime football levels in both teams. people say its rigged but argentina deserved to win and france got 2 penalties, how is that rigged???
@@Tommy-jv2bs our match so the dutch against argentia was rigged. messy used his hands and the ref didn't do a thing
@@Darklordnl why would he, it wasn't a goal situation
@@DarklordnlPlus, the ball shot at our duck out… That’s provocation and should mean a straight red.
@@jarmoliebrand2005 hell yeah it should have been but I think the paid the officials
Di María had problems with Van Gaal too, when he played for Manchester United. You forgot to add that
Yeah, I think Van Gaal actively avoided having South American players in his club teams... at least so I've heard... apparently we, South Americans are too lazy... we?... lazy?.... naaaaahhh!!! lol
Van Gaal didn't like some mexican players either, pretty sus, I think no one wants to say it but the man might have something against a certain race which basically makes him a bit of a racist
Van Gaal just hates all Spanish speaking players, it's no secret, and it's not specific to DiMaria.
He thinks they're all lazy, he's even said it in interviews
For real
Argentina is one of the moet racist countries in the world lol. Ever wondered why there are so little black Argentinians? @@bunnythebunbalboa
I would say that Argentina's playing style and Netherlands' would eventually clash no matter what.
They both have the same "football soul", being their attack style trickful (more like Brazil, not like Spain), defense style near-violent (more like Uruguay, not like Italy), structure-free (not a mess like Brazil, nor a rock solid like Germany, but free as France), and moody (not passive as Portugal and Japan, neither always provocative Brazil and Italy... just moody as Germany).
They are like doppelgänger, just waiting to prove who is the real one by hunting each other.
hahaha!!! very good-pretty true. cheers from Argentina!
So true man
soy argentino y siempre note que Holanda/paises bajos era como la argentina de europa futbolisticamente jaja tienen mucha pasion para ser un pais europeo y por eso siempre los respete mucho❤
@@Shifinline999 both always good, yet often a minor step away from the big success😊 but you got it last Championship🎉 maybe we'll be next...
You just gave the ultimate break down of this comparison. Bravo!!!!
19:34 as a native Dutch speaker who’s lived in Argentina this is actually a wrong translation. I watched the press conference and van gaal said that Messi in possession is an amazing player (imo the best) but doesn’t defend along out of possession
I remember watching the 2022 world cup game and it was crazy🔥🔥
Same
Same
what a game 🔥🔥
Dude it was one of my favorite games that I watched fr 🔥
@@Nabhutoplease make a video about Germany's football dominance in the world cup and why theyre better in the world cup rather than the euros. Id love to watch it.😅
Wearing a Spain shirt is definitely a way to unite the Netherlands and Argentina 😂
Both former colonies of Spain crazy fact that I always forget.
Oops LOOOOOL
@@melkormorgothbauglir.4848 calling the netherlands a former spanish colony is just braindead, it was more like a personal union
@Arjonko no they hate each other
@@Arjonko It was a proto colony to call it a personal union is braindead because it was a set of estates, duchies, counties and vassaliages and a highly disunified area all united by the same rulers the Netherlands was built of spanish oppostion as the unifying reason luckily they shared a culture to keep them together after the spanish were no longer the common reason if there was one state like the Duchy of Brabant that was the dominant power over the entire region that then fell under the dominion of Spain a PU would be a perfect term or if Burgundy was still around as the middle power between them but no the lowlands were an inherited territory from Austria with low centrilisation you've just played EU4 a couple times and think the terms and statuses in the game are applicable to real history when in reality it was much more complicated than that map games are just that map games they aren't one to one with real life get of your screen read a history book.
Just one correction : while the 78' wc was used as a face cleaner by the dictatorship, it is false that it was "organized" by the dictatorship, as Argentina being the world cup location was set far before the military coup
Argentina has a bigger intercontinental rivalry against Germany and England than against the Netherlands, although the England rivalry is for other reasons outside of football
Netherlands and England hate eachother when you talk about the latest euros. England and Netherlands both hate Germany even more, and when Argentina joins all three teams can agree to hate Argentina.
@@bikopot227 Not really we don't hate England or Germany, but there is a good rivalry with Germany.
It's Portugal we hate.
@@Minifliek Netherlands hate Portugal? Why?
@@giuliac9735 can't win against portugal
I find the whole Argentina-Germany-Netherlands triad funny, since all three have beefs with each other.
In fact, I would rank them like this, in order of more heated to less heated historically:
Germany-Netherlands (this goes back to WWII).
Argentina-Germany (this goes back to having legendary matches and three finals in the World Cup).
Argentina-Netherlands (they used to be the more chill rivalry, but 2022 was a true battle, so this could change in the future).
I think Argentines would most likely consider Germany a rival, is one DEU-ARG is one if not the most repeated match in WC history with 3 finals along the way, and even if Germany usually takes out Argentina in the World Cup in their entire match history is actually Argentina who has the lead
As an Argentine I can confirm that Brasil, England, Germany, Uruguay and the Netherlands are considered more or less our football rivals. In that particular order.
@@dami5663Also, since 2018, France looks like a promising rivalry. I'm all for it. ESCUCHEN
A lot of Argentines consider Germany our biggest intercontinental rival but really that's not the case. They've beaten us the last four times we've met in the WC, including two finals. They own us lol
The Netherlands or England are our true intercontinental derby
@@dami5663y nigeria es el clasico tambien xd
@@matimorales1008 Es verdad amigoooo tiene más folklore en mundiales con Arg que muchos de los antes mencionados 🤣🤣
It might be because they have the best international kits.
South Korea and Japan would like a word
@@noahreese-clauson4121 Brazil entered the chat
France disagrees
@@clblBrazil looks too similar to Colombia.
Belgium hi?
That Bergkamp goal was insane
but the commentary was even better
Fax bruh
'DENNIS BEAR CUM' X 1000 times from the commentator 😂
THERE IS BEAR CUM
A W Video! It's crazy these 2 countries have such a crazy rivalry. Thanks for upgrading my ball knowledge once again!
Thank you bro I gotchu Hadji 🫡
If only Cruyff and Maradona were both available for 1978 World cup 😮💨
@@doncarloancelotti2256 Maradona was a nobody in 1978
Woulda been fire but it was before Maradona’s time tbf
@@clbl There is a difference between "nobody" and "still young to play" Currently, one out of 17 players is called up to the senior national teams.
But this was 1978, according to me the youngest was Mario Alberto Kempes with 21 y.o.
@@clblthat nobody won a u20 world cup
@@clblnah, he was up and coming like Messi in 2006, the issue was back then you could call less players than today (22) and we took 3 goalkeepers. If the 23 man squad had been a thing he most likely would have been called, more so if you could call 26 like in the last WC.
Also that is not what Louis van Gaal said he said that Messi was still in attack one of the best but when it comes to defending he doesn't help so there might been there some chances
Ghana vs Uruguay is also one of the rivalry that makes no sense
2010 World Cup
Thats was just Suarez being Suarez.
Completely makes sense since 2010
Yuhhhh
Id say ghana vs us is a bigger rivalry
As a Dutchman, I don't really view Argentina as a traditional rival. Our countries have played a lot of memorable games but there isn't any tension between us outisde of football. Our Queen hails from Buenos Aires.
Our main rivalry was with the Germans, which spawned because of our hatred and resentment following Nazi occupation in WW2. As for Argentina, their rivalry with Brazil is very logical since they're the biggest countries in South America. And their feud with England is rooted in the Falkland/Malvinas conflict.
As much as I hated the Argentines in 2022. I respect their fighting spirit and beautiful kit, which contrasts very nicely with our orange kit. I'm actually going to visit Buenos Aires very soon and i'm very excited about it.
However, do Argentinians view us as a main rival? I'm quite curious.
As an Argentinian, I wouldn’t say ur like our main rivals, but outside South America you are in the top 3 for me.
1-Germany
2-Nether lands
3-France
But in a general ranking it would look like this:
1-Brazil
2-Germany
3-Uruguay
4-The Dutch
5-England (it would be higher but we haven’t played in 20+ years)
6-France (it will be higher in years to come
This, I agree with this comment from the Netherlands, and I'm Spanish but raised here and share the same feeling. Only rivalry I heard about was Riquelme and van Gaal, not Netherlands vs Argentina.
I agree. The games can get heated, but both teams and fans have great respect for each other. The long history shows that neither team underestimates the other.
Nhaaa, we have a stronger rivalry with France. The rivalry with Netherlands was mostly about van gall
@@JavierRodriguez-wl7jywhy do you have a strong rivalry with France ?
The queen of netherlands has entered the chat (she was born in argentina!)
Also The argentina-france rivalry might become a thing. *cough*enzo*cough*
and she is the daughter of a genocider
They've had a couple crazy matches in a row
No way i never knew that fun fact
Based Enzo
An actual national team owning a continental team
@@juanjoseph Idk why Argentina is talking shit when they're all Italian, Spanish and German.
You forgot to say messi should have a red card in 2022. He made hands for no reason and the ref gave no fuck
Dude.. players don't get sent off in the biggest tournament itw, for touching the ball near the halfway line. It's not even a major foul
@ he already had yellow and hands is hands, im a messi fan btw
@@Yutobe098 You cannot book someone for a handball unless it disrupts a crucial play or goal scoring opportunity. This was in the half way line.
@@ahaan.manav.6662 so? Hands is hands, you will tell me you can touch the ball with your hands midgame?
@@Yutobe098 No touching the ball is a foul.. but not all fouls get you a yellow card. If every foul got you a yellow card almost half of the players in a match would be sent off
Im from Argentina, and call this rivalry sounds weird to me. Yes, players make the matches kinda violent for different reasons, but if you start asking argentinians what they consider the biggest rival, most will say brazil, others will say GB, some little will say Uruguay or Germany, but mostly no one will say Neatherlands. I dont even think of they as a rivals in that sense.
We think they are big crybabies, like Mexico and Colombia, the type of fans and sometimes players that throw the first stone and then hide the hand, so when Argentina hits back they try to makes us seem like bad guys, bad winners or sore losers. There is no rivalry, just pure disgust for that kind of cowardice.
No Argentinian will call this a rivalry.
Until the two teams meet, then it's gonna be hotter than an active volcano.
@@bunnythebunbalboaCrazy how Argentina are the biggest crybaby actors when getting so many penalty's.
@@laslo9463 Did you already forget what happened in 1990 and 2014? They robbed us and we weren't crying as much as all of you who seem to hate Argentina lol
@@laslo9463 I can't hear you dude, only your tears droppin like falls on your keyboard...
Life is good when Nahbuto dropped a banger
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Life’s good when markopeter drops a comment 🤝
Argentina 🇦🇷 and France 🇫🇷 too is definitely building up ‼️
Most definitely
It’s mostly on Argentinas side. A lot of Argentinians are still butt hurt by a match they won because they knew they nearly bottled it. Which is absolutely true.
@@Mac10Demarco what are you talking about man
@@fwhotlook at the recent controversy with Enzo Fernandez. They were shitting on the French team while competing in the Copa America (a tournament France or any European nation has never competed in). When they won the WC they couldn’t stop talking about France. Argentinian supporters haven’t stopped talking about France for nearly two years now. That’s because Argentina nearly bottled a lead and France gave every single Argentinian a heart attack when Kolo Muani got past the back line. I’ve never seen a nation still butt hurt about a match they won.
@@Mac10Demarcobecause Mbappe kept talking shit about South American football. After losing to a South American team in the world cup Mbappe doubled down with the Euro being tougher than the world cup... And that's why France got to the quarter finals without scoring a single goal.... 🤦
Great video! One important thing missing, that adds to the narrative, is that the equalizer play was, in deed, played first by Argentina in the 1998 WC against England, so that is an extra bit of spice into the game.
19:38 im sorry brother you got it all wrong. He means he doesnt press when the opponent has the ball. The first part is van gaal stating that messi is the most dangerous player on the ball in the world
Everyone interpreted it wrong, it’s so frustrating as a dutchman haha! There actually was alot of respect. It was only stated, which is factually true, that messi indeed didn’t press much when opponents have the ball and there our chances laid.
@@VoidBoompjeI think the Argentinian team intentionally looked at it as an insult to get Messi all pumped up. No evidence, just a hunch.
@@lperea21 typical strategy in football, I also think that was the plan
@@M86KIA using giants upfront, @@M86KIAis @@M86KIA @@M86KIA
I also think Depay is overrated, but when in form he is really good.
@@lperea21I promise you no one misinterpreted this on purpose just to pump Messi. The entire country still hates van gaal, also because of what he did to Riquelme and Di María.
I've never seen this channel before, but I'm really impressed! I had no idea the rivalry went this deep! The Dutch commentator calling the winning goal by Bergkamp in the 98 World Cup match is absolutely legendary. If I'm having a bad day, I just pull up that video and in less than a minute I'm feeling pretty happy again! Search for crazy Dutch commentator Bergkamp goal. It doesn't matter if you don't speak the language. I don't either. It doesn't even matter if you're not a football fan.
You have an entertaining narration style and I can't believe an American knows Tintin!! Subscribed!! 🙏🎃⚽️
Nice video dude.....Massive football fan. Knew everything but still watched it and totally enjoyed it...
Thank u bro I appreciate u 🖤
Loved Your video Bro. Since 86 when I saw Argentina win the WC as a kid, I've been a huge Argentina fan, except when they play my home country. Always been a fan of the Dutch team as well. Thank You for the Energy and Love You put into it. It was funny, witty and interesting.
Top 4 macthes with most booking include The Netherlands 3 times... at least they are winning there... 😅
Keep it nabhuto your doing great man❤
Thank you so much bossman
That 2022 game had my heart rate jumping, especially when Wout Weghorst did those two goals, the dream felt impossible.
The battle of Lusail will definitely be talked about for years to come
Let's remember that Netherlands' queen, is Argentinian.
That's why we don't listen to the monarchy
That’s actually wild to think of one
lets remember that argentinian elite are actually germans, ex nazis
This was such an informative and enjoyable video to watch. Perfect memes added in, too, for comedic effect, and the right amount. The VVD part took me out! YNWA
Excellent vid.
As an Argentinian I should say that our rivalries with Germany and England would probably be more passionate. Especially England as it is reciprocated.
This was such an informative and enjoyable video to watch. Perfect memes added in, too, for comedic effect, and the right amount. The VVD part took me out! YNWA
Excellent vid. Subscribed.
Simple. Argentinia is the Netherlands of Sout America and the Netherlands is the Argentinia of Europe. And two of the same entities cannot exist in the same space.
You've been to Amsterdam, it seems. Emitting more smoke than Bielsa.
In terms of trophies and football history alone Argentina is several categories above the Dutch. The similarity you claim is very hard to notice, whether it's the style of play or the respective demographics. One might have understood if you'd compared Argentina to Italy for example.
Unless you mean football-wise you're xhatting shit😂
Really entertaining video but brother there are only so many windows error and vine boom sound effects I can take😂 Try to use more different sound effects because the content is great
You didn't even mention the Messi handball
And he praised VVD's foul play....
Why would he mention a random handball in the middle of the pitch. Handballs happen every game bro lol
@@tirodeesquina6458Yes but this was an obvious handball which he didn’t get booked for. But whatever.
@@VoidBoompjeand van dyck couldve been booked again for that push against paredes (he too) so basically the referee was awful for both countries
@@belenheredia2024 agree
8:47 im dutch ajd yes these were exactly my thoughts lmao. No but great video man❤❤
Portugal vs Netherlands was a good one
Not really a rivalry tho, nothing behind it
@@BrockvanderBoom-Bebb same with Portugal vs Argentina , which makes what Bruno and Pepe said in the 2022 world cup more ridiculous
What did Bruno and Pepe say
@@Gavin8708 look up the post match interview against morocco
@@Gavin8708They said messi rigged the morocco game by installing an Argentinian referee.
Weghosrt ended up in Manchester United as a teammate of Lisandro Martinez, who said they would jokingly nickname him "bobo" in the dressing room as the tensions were already over by then.
Argentina vs Netherlands is one of the biggest rivalries in international football
20:01 so important he had to say it twice!
bro just making shit up now, no one in Argentina thinks of this a rivalry I'm pretty sure it's the same for the Dutch, having one heated match isn't a rivalry.
As a Dutch person, we consider this more than a rivalry, its like war to us.
@@BrockvanderBoom-Bebb😂😂😂😂😂
That’s exactly what I was thinking. There’s definitely an excitement because both teams like to get real physical. Because the talent level is so high but there’s no second level to it. It’s not personal though it’s just football. England or Brazil there’s something extra. Personal pride is at stake not just for the team for the country.
After Brazil and Germany, The Netherlands is argentinas biggest rival bro. Everyone considers this a rivalry
@@clbl no they fucking dont
van Gaal didn’t say Messi couldn't create chances. He said Messi didn’t participate in the defence. Which is true, so the 'chance' that he was talking about is one less player of the opponent in defence.
Yeah the argentinians are mad at a wrongly translated interview 😂
I think it’s mostly because of the number of times arg and netherlands have come head to head during imp international games.
They are often top 10 of the world.. ofcourse there is rivalry
I still don't understand why Argentina thought that Van Gaal was taking shit about them. He merely expressed that he wasn't afraid of facing them, and that they had weaknesses that could be exploited. He said that when being repeatedly bombarded with criticism from dutch reporters that he had no chance.
How is that talking shit? If you say beforehand that you're probably going to lose and that the opponent is unbeatable, you might as well not even play.
SSUUUIIIII 😂❤ Remember me nabhuto??
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It’s a rivalry that makes pure sense to me.
Talent vs Talent; Artistry vs. Artistry; Europe vs. South America. Clockwork Orange vs. Tango.
Nigeria vs Ghana is my favorite in international football as a Nigerian 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬and Man united vs Liverpool in club football
Cool
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7-0 bro
Nigeria vs germqny
@ProsperAmoakoBLR LOL Na BRO
you didn't tell me 2 important things:
1. Messi should have received a red card for the obvious handball, but the ref sleeps under a Messi blanket.
2. the Argentinian fans started shining lasers on the Dutch's heads during the penalties. this prevented them from being focused.
Being from Argentina, this is one of my personal favorite matchups. Idk how the Dutch see it, but on our side we wouldn't really call it a "rivalry" more like a heated matchup. It's still always a great game, there's just a decent amount of teams we'd rather beat at the wc before them (Brazil, Germany, England for example) Although I do think we have the upper hand in the face-off, beating them in a WC final and owning them after they talked smack in 2022, I gotta respect that Bergkamp goal that shattered our dreams back then. Would be nice to cross paths again in 2026.
We don't really see it as a rivalry either. In fact, leading up to this match, we didn't see it as anything special at all, simply a matchup with one of the strongest teams in the world. I'd say it was the Argentinians interpreting what our players and manager said as "smack talk" which turned up the heat before the match, when for us it was simply a discussion of the gameplan. I guess that was a culture clash of our blunt openness with your ability to get riled up and use that positively, which caught us out as you don't want to motivate your opponent.
With how the match played out and the fallout after the match, Argentina has probably become the closest thing to a football enemy we currently have, but I guess that will fade with time like it did with Spain in the 2010s or Portugal in the 00s.
They didn’t really talk smack and how is a penalty shootout victory win owning someone?
@@Floris2211 They called Messi useless and undermined us all week. Not everything is covered and translated perfectly in this video. And cmon we both watched the match 🤣 we owned them on the pitch and psychologically
@@tirodeesquina6458 We didn't call Messi useless. Indeed, it's not translated perfectly as this video presents a way harsher take than we actually had. What was really said was that Messi in possession is Argentina's most dangerous player, but out of possession can be a passenger. Which is not inaccurate: Messi often takes moments during a match to rest and save his energy for moments in which he can make the difference, but that does mean that when he is resting his team has a man less to defend. This was mentioned as a weakness in Argentina's game we might be able to exploit, but you've probably seen that translated as if Messi himself was seen a weakness, which is of course far from the truth.
Stop spreading lies. Ee never called messi shit or talked smack. So either you are blatently lying and twisting words or are a total crybaby seeing any comments as smack talk
You dominated most of the game but barely created any big chances. Than near the end of the game almost gave it away and got away lucky but deserved
1:54
That is a scary group. If it were today, that group would have 12 World Cups combined and many runners up. 😱
Eight.
My favorite international rival is El Salvador 🇸🇻 vs Honduras 🇭🇳
The only football rivalry that sparked the real "Football War".
💀💀💀💀💀💀
That one’s wild
Not a rival, not a classic, but a rough match.
Next question.
4:24 did he say bi-- instead of pitch
Hmmmm???
Hmmmm????
That Vinland saga reference was smooth
24:56 oh hell nah☠️☠️
Very strange that the Argentines shouldve had 3 red cards in the last game and got 0 (Romero hand ball, Paredes tackle + shooting the ball into the dug out, Messi first yellow card + handball)
Romero got a yellow from his handball, so not him
There are a lot of lies/falsehoods in your video. I sensed a bit of an anti-argentinean sentiment, because of the way you twisted many facts.
*1st and biggest one, as someone already pointed it out, is the main topic of the video: There is no rivalry with the Dutch, your video is clearly forced towards this, I guess to sensationalize it, but why the need? yeah 2022 was a heated match, doesn't make it a rivalry though. Argentina has one rival and one rival only: Brazil. That's it.
*2nd, as someone who watched every 1978 WC game, there was no match "skewed in Argentina's favor". Argentina actually had a penalty called against them against Poland and lost to Italy, which caused them to have to travel a lot for the second round, in the 4th minute against italy there is a clear penalty on Kempes and the referri called it outside when it was clearly in. There was no glaring referri mistake in favor of Argentina throughout the whole tournament, if you find one, please show it to all of us. In turn, the Dutch scored 4 penalties in that WC, same amount of Penalties Argentina scored in 2022. Then I guess FIFA rigged it for the Dutch right?
*3rd, the "later times kickoffs" was an already established practice to benefit the host nation, that existed before this WC. Germany, for example, in 1974 as a host, ALSO received the benefit of playing at later times in their two biggest games before the final. Funny how facts can change the narratives uh?
*4th Oh yes! the "Peru game" that started so many myths and Legends to which there are no solid proofs or concrete evidence. I'll show you an undeniable proof though, Peru hit the woodwork twice, yes TWICE within the first 15min of that game. So explained to me how a team, that suposedly threw the game, would try so hard to score. Unless they intentionlly hit the woodwork to make it look less suspicious, but if they could do that, don't you think they could win the whole thing? I've seen many documentaries, some dedicated exclusively to that game, the peruvians always denied throwing the game because the reality is they were already eliminated and Argentina knew how many goals they needed. That's it, there is no conspiracy. The whole myth behind the "tons of grains" or "favors" is just that, myths. The fact is, Argentina and Peru always enjoyed a great relationship and Argentina sent them many shipments before and after that WC. This is a case of a lie or "suspicion" being repeated so much until people believed it. I heard soo many ridiculous myths, I'm surprised you didn't include the one where the whole Argentina team played doped up and in the doping test one turned out to be pregnant, that's the best one I heard.
*5th, Fernandez Moores was not talking about match fixing when he was referring to political manipulations. He was referring to the fact that the military dictatorship used the WC as a distraction from the atrocities they were commiting, a distraction they would have gotten no matter what, since no one knew what was going on until many years later.
*6th, and this one bothers me because you are clearly LYING. Cruyff didn't reveal his reason for quitting the national team for DECADES, which led to speculations like the one you proposed. In fact, the screenshot you used "other reasons given for Cruyff..." were not reasons given by HIM. You are clearly manipulating facts. Cruyff finally revealed the reason in his autobiography (which I read) and indeed it was the attempted kidnapping a year before the WC and stated it had NOTHING to do with the Argentinean government. He didn't want to leave his family after that traumatic event. The dictatorship DIDN'T play a role as he said it himself.
7th, the WC final. In this one you twisted so many facts:
7a, van de Kerkhof was NOT forced to add extra Bandages during the game, that was actually the reason for the delay at the START of the game. There were no "delaying tacticts". Ardiles noticed at the initial handshake that van de Kerkhof was wearing a cast, I don't know if you ever seen or touched one, those things are hard as stone, it could hurt someone. I actually don't know what the rules said at the time, but if you don't agree that playing with a cast is dangerous and can cause injury, you lack common sense. It doesn't matter if no one complained in previous games, he shouldn't have worn it.
7b, The final that the Dutch lost... "some say controvertially". Really? who says? I like it how you showed no source, not evidence, and aparently the controversy, or rather, the reason the Dutch lost was delaying the match because Ardiles didn't want the guy smashing a cast into someone's head. Did you see ANY controversy during the game? any bad call? anything? search it, you won't find none. The Anti Argentinean sentiment is pretty strong here.
7c, The dutch felt they've been robbed of a WC? why don't they talk to resenbrink for hitting the post in the last minute of the game, had that gone in they would have won, which proves inequivocally, that they lost well.
7d, The first goal by kempes was not a one on one situation, you cannot even describe what's in your own video.
8th "how Paredes wasnt' sent off"? how about how Van dijk wasn't sent off for literally assaulting Paredes, that is a straight Red looking at your face. The fact that you only see one side comfirms my suspicion. Paredes was booked for the tackle, show me anyone, ANYONE in all of football who got booked for kicking the ball out into the bench or the crowd. The only one I can think of is van persie in the Arsenal-Barca game in the UCL, but that was for ignoring the ref's whistle, not for kicking the ball into the crowd. No one ever got booked for kicking the ball out, and Paredes didn't even hit anyone.
9th "there weren't too many chances in the extra time I'm not gonna lie". Well... you are lying, did you even watch the game? Extra time was ALL Argentina, Enzo hit the woodwork and had another shot deflected that passed near, Lautaro had two great chances, Di Maria almost scored an olimpico. Di Maria! the fact that Scaloni played him in Extra time contradicts your stament of "being scared of taking chance and going forward". Argentina was ALL going forward throughout both extra times, the dutch didn't even cross the half line. It was Arguably Argentina's peak performance in the whole WC, those extra times against the Dutch.
Anyway, there are a couple more but those are the ones that bothered me the most. I think you were trying too hard to push this "rivalry narrative" that you didn't prioritise facts or context. We don't hate the Dutch at all and I'm sure they don't hate Argentina. Little fact you probably didn't know, their Queen is from Argentina and the royals visit quite often, so both nations are very connected.
I saw the words that I’m “anti-Argentinian” (I wanted Argentina to win the World Cup since minute one) and I just simply didn’t wanna read the rest of this. Sorry boss 🫡🫡
@Nabhuto yeah, I'm sure I wouldn't want to be proven wrong either. Also, I actually said I senced an anti argentina sentiment, because you said many untruths. Thank you for confirming by not denying.
If you actually want argetina to win why so many lies?
@@Nabhuto Also, i didn't post the comment for you but for anyone watching your video thinking you did good research. If I get one or two people reading it and realising how much you got wrong, that's good for me.
@@Nabhuto sorry if you don't wanna read this you're clearly scared to be proven wrong, and he made a good comment that surgically tears apart a lot of the things about Argentina you've said on the video
@@jptributer los latinos siempre la tenemos más difícil para competir sin que nos quieran bajar el nivel de nuestros logros de una forma u otra
Bro settle down with the windows soundeffect. This really is a good informative and interesting video, however the unnecessary overused soundeffects really get annoying after a while.
Thank u bro!
Now, Argentina has another rival since summer 2024 : France. That's because of the multiple racist comments by some Argentinians supported by their governments. But it goes beyond football because at the Olympics, each France vs Argentina game was a bit heated. Including the men's football quarter final and blind football final, both ending with France's victory. As a French, it's great to have a new rival despite the reasons. I still have respect for Argentina because I've met cool persons who hate these racist comments.
Argentina also beat France in the futsal football (World Cup semifinal), but lost to their eternal rivals Brazil in the Final.
French accusing another country of racism after decades of colonialism and threating their black players as animales IF THEY LOSE is just another eternal way of european hipocresy
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 I'm one of these black persons. Racism is worse in my country because it's not as opened as the USA or Argentina. We're trying our best to condemn it. My former favourite team, Olympique de Marseille, is doing a lot to fight against racism.
@@stanyamish3996 Well if you are black i salute you and wish you good luck on that noble struggle. But as an argentinian i will like to clarify that while we make violent jokes of ANYONE (specially the british) we arent as racist as the european press will let you belive . Im proud that my country never had segregation policies (like the US had or Israel has) never conditioned voting (like the US did and Europe still does) and never forbid any religious practice (like France does)
@@ShinigamiInuyasha777 Oh no no, you're thinking of the British.
I believe that us and The Dutch collide because we pretty similar in styles and the way we experience football. Two passionate rivals will always and up having heated match. Looking backwards that game was one of the most enjoyable games of WC. Respect to the Netherlands from Argentina!!
As Argentinian, Netherlands is one of our best rivals and that's all. There isn't a sense of hate towards them. We do hate Van Ghal.
I justify this with the t-shirts I see everyday here. You see lots of people wearing Netherland's, Brazil's or Spanish outfits and nobody cares (they are just good rivals) (with Spain there is a friendship bond this recents years). Real hate, that you won't see anyone here wearing is a English t-shirt. Mexico and Chile hate us, but we don't give a shit about them
You do probably not speak Dutch so I will explain this. Within the Netherlands Van Gaal is also a subject of jokes, especially considering his poor way of speaking both English and German. His football knowledge and effort during the WC 22 is admired here. His generally egotistical and smug persona is ridiculed among Dutch people, generally. In spite of the former, Van Gaal is also very active in charity innitiatives, mostly concerning children, which many people don't seem to know about. In the end he is likely a good man.
@@anong1470 probably he is a good guy, but as the video said, he hasn't been good to argentinians so is understandable why we have bad feeling towards him
Something interesting was that before the WC in Qatar, van Gaal wanted to call up Tim Krul again just for the penalty shoot outs. Tim Krul did not want to go because he wanted to spend more time with his family...
Funny little thing: The queen of Netherlands is Argentinian
Argentinians are very proud of her. There is no hatred for the Dutch.
Enemies to lovers ig
Bro forgot that argentina has a rivalry with Germany and england
Im still mad that two players on argentina didn’t get red cards
Ref was paid off, or just an Argentina fan
@@Trickaz94cry about it
@@getdowncrazy916 nah I'm not a little bitch like you
@@getdowncrazy916 pessi fanboy you all are pathetic losers
@@getdowncrazy916 loser
As an Argentinian, it kinda makes sense when the military junta ruling our country sent some guys to kidnap Netherland's best player and the world's best player at the time, Johann Cruyff in 1977.
He ended up not taking part in the 78 World Cup citing fear of leaving his family alone, despite no definitive ties between the junta and the kidnappers being established. Netherlands still made it to the final anyways, but lost it to us. But few to none Argentinians have any illusions about that World Cup being won fair and square, that's why we used to celebrate way more the 86 World Cup.
It doesn't help that being two very good teams most of the time we find each other a lot in World Cups, and even better for a rivalry it happens in knockout stages.
We love and hate facing the Dutch. Massive respect for their football style and we always know it's gonna be an epic game, but one that we can loose any day. 😂
I'll reply in English so everyone can understand. ARE YOU CRAZY?? What makes you think the Argentine dictatorship had anything to do with Cruyff's incident? I've never heard anyone say that, not even the most conspiracy-minded football fans. Are you trying to spread misinformation on purpose?
Honestly, the Dutch side feels the same in general. There is no hatred between us.
Bro tried to shoe in a USA rivalry twice 💀
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Argentina vs Netherlands WC2022: the most controversial game.
Portugal vs Netherlands WC2006: Hold my beer.
No one in Argentina cares about the Netherlands, they choose to pick on France for the recent games, England because of many political conflicts since the XIX century, and Germany because it's the game that's been played the most in the World Cup (the most repeated final too, and they always struggle against them in competitions). It's the dutch who hate Argentina because of what you said in the video.
They just hate us because we can win cups even without getting players from africa and the caribbean lol
@@juanjosephyeah, cause all Argentinian players aren’t descended from Europeans right?
@@dutchshark1580
All latin americans are descendants of Europeans and africans
And in Argentina you have a mix that comes from many centuries. You have black, native, and spanish ancestry from the pre independence era and also many European and Asian ancestry from the late XIXth century.
Not the same as just buying out first generation migrants or people born in another continent. Most of those players only choose to play for European federations because of money, on the other hand you've got players like Garnacho who chose Argentina because of love.
In a hundred years there will still exist Argentina, but there will be no dutch (based since the dutch are calvinists)
@@juanjoseph so with that logic, in a few centuries, you would consider those black players Dutch and not Africans? Odd. And no, most of those players choose to play for those countries because they were born and raised there, just like all black Dutch players. And quite a few of the “Africans” are mixed with Dutch blood as well. It’s just a generic and corny way of bashing a national team by talking about ethnicity
I don't know why "black players" playing in historically white countries even matters. Who cares? If Argentina had black players that were good enough to make the team they would absolutely use them. Why wouldn't they?
Watching the full match, 78 final seems to be fairly won by Argentina.
EVERYONE WAKE UP, THE GOAT JUST DROPPED ANOTHER MASTERPIECE
Appreciate u amru ameen 🫡🫡
Im Dutch and I like Argentina as a country. But im still mad for the Qatar WC match where i think Lahoz (referee) was the worst you could choose for such a great game. He let that game explode. But still it was nice to see you winning. A real footballcountry.
7:48 Broooo i was just thinking about that today. If you think about it, its the netherlands who own argentina
@@clbl world cup final bro
Tbf argentina comes up clutch in penalties
🇦🇷 here, in 1978 Argentina played on the late time of each round, instead of both games being played simultaneously as other countries did. This was one clear deviation from the rules, among others in that cup.
as an argentinian, for me the 2022 match wasn’t about hating netherlands, it was specifically about hating van gaal. he doesn’t know when to shut up.
What's funny about it is that they have the most wins, but like...we came on top of the most important matches overall. One world cup final, 2 draws where we eliminated them in penalties, one to get to a final the other to get to a semifinal.
I love how the Dutch keeper said he'd stop all of Messi's shots and yet he didn't even move when Messi took the normal time penalty 😂😂😂😂😂
LMAOOOOOOO
Kind of like the fact that Argentina have sent home the Dutch in two consecutive World Cups (2014, 2022), which were two occasions where van Gaal was the coach and the Dutch had an undeserved sense of entitlement about them. Dutch meanwhile still talking about Bergkamp's wonder goal while ARG are winning the World Cup and Copa America titles.
How do you explain Netherlands being on the top of the most violent matches list so many times? …impotence
exactly! they are just bad losers who allways play dirty. And there is not a truly rivalry between Argentina and the Netherlands, they just hate ARgentina because they had lost the most important matches in recent years.
Its similar to what happens in Mexico, for them, ARgentina is their most hated rival but Argentina doesnt give a fuc*
Netherlands equaliser in 2022 was almost an exact copy of the move that Argentina did against England in 1998, the fake-out free kick.
Argentinian here, i think dutch people need to respect the ranges lmfao 🥳🇦🇷🏆🏆🏆
Ranks amigo!
@@patriciofernandez2711 I knew it sounded odd ty for the correction..!
Martinez passed psychology class
Impressive how all the cups that Argentina won were suspected that they were favored
When a South American country wins something Europe is always ready to create a narrative on why it was so unfair that they lost to the poor.
Maybe u could say the same for half of germany italy and that only wc of england.. but ofc they are differents 💫europeans💫 dont cheat and theyre never favoured 😌
The vid is abt Argentina and Netherlands, not England, Italy or Germany
every video i see a one piece reference, i comment, nakama, good time to be alive
I want to highlight something Messi said after the 2022 match. "Van Gaal sells that he knows how to play good football, but all he does is send in cross after cross."
Talking after the match, not before 🤫
bruh don‘t forget the battle of Nürnberg!
rivalry of netherlands and portugal goes deep man, it’s more then just football, the rivalry runs deep in our history. to fully understand you have to go back to the X-VI century.
as a dutch person, i was a fan of messi when i was younger. after the WC quarter final with that dumb f'in referee, i realised that messi is really a narcissist. i hate the guy so much now, and you bet i think that world cup was rigged to let argentina win
also wout weghorst is the goat
@@levivandergraaf4025 Cry cry cry
@@TarArtist creative comeback bro, how about you come up with some arguments against it? i accept other opinions then mine but this is just plain dumb
@@levivandergraaf4025 I'm not going to give solid arguments to a guy whose tail has been on fire since that final, eternally with the finger in your butt.
@@levivandergraaf4025 It is already more than obvious that using the argument "I hate Messi" and "the cup was rigged" is an eternal crybaby argument, that his team was not up to the task and they do not know how to accept a defeat
I'm Dutch, But love both the Netherlands and Argentine national sides. Lol. Them dueling and feuding makes it even better for me.
Argentina national team is just so annoying because they always abuse their highest paid player, the referee to win because they can’t otherwise.
Cry harder
France needed two penalties and tried for a third and were called out for it by the ref. Good story though
Cry cry cry
Dutch commentary when dennis bergkamp scored: DENNIS BERGKAMP! DENNIS BERGKAMP! DENNIS BERGKAMP! GOOOOOOAAAALLLLLLLL!
Just look it for your self it was realy funny😂
usa v mexico is not taken seriously lad
not to you but it is to the people involved
To the ppl who are involved it is
@@Nabhuto wouldn't us v canada be taken more seriously? I've never seen people talk about canada v us only us v canada
yoo nabhuto!!!
Sup Santi!
As an argentinian I can say... this is a REALLY one sided rivalry.
Argentina pretty much don't care about the duch.
Our "rivals" in europe for us, are England and Germany(this is a pretty much one sided rivalry for our part now)
England, Germany and of course France
you could even add Spain and Italy, the 2022 match was more like a rivalry against Van Gaal
we don't really care either, just weird Messi didn't receive a second yellow and paredes wasn't sent off last WC.
@@juanmagg5909 umm actually... 🇳🇱 4 wins
🇦🇷 1 win
5 draws. (Pens count as draws)
Technically, the netherlands own argentina
What a coincidence. 3 of the 4 games with the most cards were precisely the Netherlands
🇦🇷>🇳🇱
🇳🇱>🇦🇷
100%
try thinking about something other than a handle, after that you can share your opinion, with arguments.
@@bikopot227 dang i got cooked
@@bikopot227 any way heres your argument
🇦🇷=3 world cups and 16 copa america
🇳🇱=0 world cups and 1 euro
@@icanthinkofahandlelol World Cup 1: dictatorship that rigged the entire World Cup.
World Cup 2: hand of god.
World Cup 3: undeserved win over the Netherlands due to many refereeing mistakes in the favor of Argentina.
Also Euros are harder to win than the cops America and it isn’t even close. The Netherlands have had more world class players but we are very unlucky in world cups and even in the euros this year, I don’t think we would’ve beaten Spain but England did not deserve that penalty.
Argentine here (and also a Netherlands fan). Congratulations for a very precise video. Argentines do believe Netherlands is a modern clásico, akin to the historic Uruguay rivalry and over another unsual intercontinental rivalry, that of England. All info is spot-on.
Never knew Argentinians felt that way, I always thought it was just a clash of football cultures.
That's kinda cool to hear as a Dutchie. I thought Argentina just kinda had rivalries with anyone (Germany and England come to mind). I kinda assumed that Argentinians didn't care about us nearly as much as some of us do about you lot.
@@edgeman1135well we do have rivalries with many teams, but it is a sign of respect. We have great respect for the Netherlands. But don't expect any kisses on the pitch 😊
En mi puta vida dije que los holandeses son clásicos
The Mexico fans watching Netherlands lose in 2014 was so accurate 😭
there should be a turkey Vs Germany rivalry