Some things I learned from this about myself: 1. I realized that I am more impressive in a group than one on one. And this has been eating me up lately. 2. I really do, deep down, want to be ordinary. And yet, that is the scariest idea: to just let go of my ambition. 3. We all want to suppress shame by doing. 4. Integrating to 6: I need to recover a respect for tradition and ritual.
The point about being more impressive in a group really hit home, but I can’t quite figure out why. I can stand on stage and be charismatic, so why do I come away from a one-on-one feeling like I didn’t give as much of myself, or give the other person what they wanted? Hopefully I’ll come to understand what that is..
I feel you. I now understand why I picked up the book Ordinary by Michael Horton. "By learning to embrace the ordinary, you will find contentment and a sustainable faith in the hidden and humble places."
All of this is so accurate and explains the tear in my heart that I have always felt. Right now I’m on a path of self reflection and healing. I don’t have a choice because I had my epic failure. Thank you for making this!
Throughout my life I tested from 7w8, to 8w7, to finally 3w4 now that I've settled down quite a bit in older age so I can personally attest to a strong kinship among 7s/8s/& 3s lol lots and lots of overlap
I always thought i was 7w8 but then i realized its just my personality because im an ENTP and not my true core/drive/fear which is type 3 i want to be the most social , charming, funny ä, energetic and adventorus because i want to be the best and admired not just because of my own wants its a need to impress. Its so importsnt to me that i matter to others.
I’m a 9 and my husbands a 3. He could barely stand listening to 9 we made 4 minutes -‘arg I can’t listen to this , this is so frustrating’. Now listening to 3 ‘well this is pretty great right, I haven’t heard anything bad yet’ 😂
I think you'll get a lot out of this podcast - The Rise Podcast, EP 8 on 23 Aug 2018. Rachel is a 3 and her husband is a 9 and the guy explains so well the dynamics of a relationship like that
I’m a Type 9 and this video highlights how I would thrive at my healthy 3 integration point. It’s so spot-on. I also learned a lot about a particular person in my life from watching this video. Thank you.
He accurately predicted the US president from 2016-2020. All you have to do is to have a winner's face and to talk like a winner and that's our president---so accurate.
Lmao, at first I wanted to discredit this completely. I was instructed to take the official Enneagram full personality test by my job at the time. Decided I'd go back and REALLY look at my results. I tested as a type 3. After watching a few videos including this one, I completely dismissed the idea of a "type 3" solely because of all the comments on these videos saying "That's so me." or "Literally me." I think I was worried I was just falling into a rabbit hole of astrology-esque pseudoscience. Said all this to say, I think it's telling of my faults that I dismiss the idea entirely because I see others acknowledging their own type. Or in other words, I'm type 3 enough that I didn't even want to acknowledge it on the basis that I'm not unique or special. I'm competitively viewing my own personality type. Christ lol. Sorry to all you who have do deal with us. Yikes.
I cried inside. I never wanted my mum to go to my track and field meets when I was in school even though she offered to because I was scared that she wouldn't love me anymore. Yep, just cried man. Fuck. That's hard to take in and stomach.
Wow, I feel so understood during this season of my life. I was a strong 2, about 6 years ago. I recently took the test again, and I am now a strong 3. It’s so crazy how much has happened since then.
Also made the transition clockwise. By the start of this year I thought I was a hardcore 1, but after working in retail for 6 months and being so social I've come out a 3! Love how we change and experience reveals things about us.
I'm a 5 trying to learn about 3, I feel bad that 3s think that they have to creat things for people to love them. But, other wise y'all sound like good people.
When you realize your "product" is relationships and that you sell yourself to give what you think other people want in your relationships... Or maybe just me 😆
Im a 9 and i love my best friend who is esfp 3.Im somewhat jelous of his assertiveness and his ability to LIE people to get the desored result.What he don't see is that asserive behaviour can cause problems to others.He said that i don't make mistakes which is not true
I was thinking I might be a three, but I’m not terrified of being unloveable. This enneagram stuff is hard - but I’m too cheap to pay $12 for a test when I can buy something practical with that lol
For those who say Donald Trump is an 8 not an 3. Most books say that 3 can sometimes look like an 8, but in there core their a 3. So the question you should ask yourself is from Donald Trump core what does he care about the most looking good or challenging people.
man I just watched this guy completely destroy the 6...and looking at his other stuff he is ignoring the deterioration points and dwells on the good things on every single type but the six which he see's as postal shooters...cant trust a guy with such imbalanced repoorting...anyway heres what Don Riso who knew Gurdjev said about deteriorated 3's Become vindictive, attempting to ruin others' happiness. Relentless, obsessive about destroying whatever reminds them of their own shortcomings and failures. Psychopathic behavior. Generally corresponds to the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Did not like the flippant reference to the Pope. He's the finest in generations. This remark, meant to ask you to be more conscious, comes from a Buddhist.
this is not spiritual truth... Mans perception of man..... God's not a an intelligent, nor a philosopher... hes a Spirit he takes the foolish things of the world to confound the wise....
For those who say Donald Trump is an 8 not an 3. Most books say that 3 can sometimes look like an 8, but in there core their a 3. So the question you should ask yourself is from Donald Trump core what does he care about the most looking good or challenging people
The darkside is strong with this one. Impressive media control from this group! Almost total suppression of any kind of review, or criticism of this "enneagram". Good SEO control. Totally evil, but effective. Looks like a cult.
Some things I learned from this about myself:
1. I realized that I am more impressive in a group than one on one. And this has been eating me up lately.
2. I really do, deep down, want to be ordinary. And yet, that is the scariest idea: to just let go of my ambition.
3. We all want to suppress shame by doing.
4. Integrating to 6: I need to recover a respect for tradition and ritual.
Good luck to ya sir
Jordan Apodaca I feel u
The point about being more impressive in a group really hit home, but I can’t quite figure out why. I can stand on stage and be charismatic, so why do I come away from a one-on-one feeling like I didn’t give as much of myself, or give the other person what they wanted? Hopefully I’ll come to understand what that is..
I feel you. I now understand why I picked up the book Ordinary by Michael Horton. "By learning to embrace the ordinary, you will find contentment and a sustainable faith in the hidden and humble places."
What do you mean eating you up? So, you don’t want to be that way?
I think my biggest takeaway is that we want to "look" we have it all together over being together with our deeper self.
I’ve never had something describe me so perfectly! Even myself as a child! I’m blown away! Definitely buying your book!
Blakli Lawrence Vlogs why do you think you are this way?
I'm typ 3 and I feel exactly same. I was shocked. This is exactly me.
I'm type 3 and I've never understood by people around me and even myself better than now. I didnt even know about enneagrams.
All of this is so accurate and explains the tear in my heart that I have always felt. Right now I’m on a path of self reflection and healing. I don’t have a choice because I had my epic failure. Thank you for making this!
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Same with me. I have academic problems because I lack a social life so no matter how hard I work, I don't get anywhere
Hiya a 7w8 Here!
You Three's are Incredible! And each and every one of you will leave a significant mark on this world! Goodluck to you all!
Throughout my life I tested from 7w8, to 8w7, to finally 3w4 now that I've settled down quite a bit in older age so I can personally attest to a strong kinship among 7s/8s/& 3s lol lots and lots of overlap
I always thought i was 7w8 but then i realized its just my personality because im an ENTP and not my true core/drive/fear which is type 3 i want to be the most social , charming, funny ä, energetic and adventorus because i want to be the best and admired not just because of my own wants its a need to impress. Its so importsnt to me that i matter to others.
This was the most fantastic lecture I have ever heard... i'm speechless
just listened to 30 minutes of myself and i love it!
I’m a 9 and my husbands a 3. He could barely stand listening to 9 we made 4 minutes -‘arg I can’t listen to this , this is so frustrating’. Now listening to 3 ‘well this is pretty great right, I haven’t heard anything bad yet’ 😂
I think you'll get a lot out of this podcast - The Rise Podcast, EP 8 on 23 Aug 2018. Rachel is a 3 and her husband is a 9 and the guy explains so well the dynamics of a relationship like that
I’m a Type 9 and this video highlights how I would thrive at my healthy 3 integration point. It’s so spot-on. I also learned a lot about a particular person in my life from watching this video. Thank you.
Damn. This felt like a therapy session lol
He accurately predicted the US president from 2016-2020. All you have to do is to have a winner's face and to talk like a winner and that's our president---so accurate.
what the hell this is so accurate
1000%
Wow! I’m at a loss for words. This was so insightful.
Lmao, at first I wanted to discredit this completely. I was instructed to take the official Enneagram full personality test by my job at the time. Decided I'd go back and REALLY look at my results. I tested as a type 3. After watching a few videos including this one, I completely dismissed the idea of a "type 3" solely because of all the comments on these videos saying "That's so me." or "Literally me." I think I was worried I was just falling into a rabbit hole of astrology-esque pseudoscience.
Said all this to say, I think it's telling of my faults that I dismiss the idea entirely because I see others acknowledging their own type. Or in other words, I'm type 3 enough that I didn't even want to acknowledge it on the basis that I'm not unique or special. I'm competitively viewing my own personality type. Christ lol. Sorry to all you who have do deal with us. Yikes.
This described me 100%. Very amazing
I cried inside. I never wanted my mum to go to my track and field meets when I was in school even though she offered to because I was scared that she wouldn't love me anymore.
Yep, just cried man. Fuck. That's hard to take in and stomach.
TLDR WE DED INSIDE
LOL
* sad emoji * ;((
;P
Cried about 5 times listening to this
Lol no bull 🥱
Noooo! We’re not!! When we are deeeply alone and with ourselves we know this, it’s a yearning heart.
I'm officially convinced the worst thing for someone to make long-lasting personal connections is a 3 ENTJ Virgo
Well, I aced that checklist. Shoot.
I am a 3 ENTJ Virgo...
I am a 3 INTJ Virgo
3 ENFJ Virgo 😭
I am a 3 INFJ Virgo.
I really like this guy i dont know why
3 pleases systems, pleasing communities/playing the crowd.
As opposed to a personal connection
I'm both scared and amazed. I've never heard any professional casually describing my inner self so precisely 😂
This was so insightful and helpful! Thank you!!!
A lot of these behaviors describe me but the core motivation of the affirmation of others is very unlike me.
Wow, I feel so understood during this season of my life. I was a strong 2, about 6 years ago. I recently took the test again, and I am now a strong 3. It’s so crazy how much has happened since then.
Also made the transition clockwise. By the start of this year I thought I was a hardcore 1, but after working in retail for 6 months and being so social I've come out a 3! Love how we change and experience reveals things about us.
You might be a 3w2
LOVE YOU Fr Richard Rohr..... how can the virtue be integrity and the sin be deceit. If you have integrity you don't usually deceive people.
I'm a 5 trying to learn about 3, I feel bad that 3s think that they have to creat things for people to love them. But, other wise y'all sound like good people.
I feel very called out rn
Wow. I cried inside, i wish i cried outside. 1:35 its like its seeing right through me.
THIS GUY KNOWS TOO MUCH
When you realize your "product" is relationships and that you sell yourself to give what you think other people want in your relationships... Or maybe just me 😆
Being 3w2 enfj is the worst combination...
I swear everyone think I am fake but I don't think I am 🤔
Self-esteem only comes from competence in the outer world.
Im a 9 and i love my best friend who is esfp 3.Im somewhat jelous of his assertiveness and his ability to LIE people to get the desored result.What he don't see is that asserive behaviour can cause problems to others.He said that i don't make mistakes which is not true
1s are righteous.
3s are ambitious.
oh my GOD, this is exactly me...
Dudes literally reading me like book
I was thinking I might be a three, but I’m not terrified of being unloveable. This enneagram stuff is hard - but I’m too cheap to pay $12 for a test when I can buy something practical with that lol
Omg I keep giving people and friends "products" I don't know how to just be a friend it's so weird. It's either the comedian or the teacher
Very, very accurate!!!!
This man has read me for filth.
I've asked what the point of a gathering was, and was told that it was just to hang out with friends, and I was surprised. I might be a 3.
For those who say Donald Trump is an 8 not an 3. Most books say that 3 can sometimes look like an 8, but in there core their a 3. So the question you should ask yourself is from Donald Trump core what does he care about the most looking good or challenging people.
Be apart from their role and image.
3 here!
Hmm sounds like a Scorpio. Really enjoyed this talk.
3s must suffer a great defeat for the sake of their soul.
mentions 3 need to go home and decompress, what if your spouse is also a 3?
You can be that for each other
You have a perfect understanding for each other then. Just hold hands and scream at the top of a cliff.
@@bazalbaz LOL
I dont think a 3 would marry a 3 as well😅
INTP 3 idk how I exist because I can't do well in groups.
Are Fr. Rohr's other videos on the Enneagram types available on RUclips? (They're not listed in the "More" details.) Thank you:-)
Chelsea Handlers book brought me here
Gasp
Making money will not satisfy the soul.
why is this so true-
as a 3, i listen to information about 3s to boost my ego? lol i take the good and forget the bad
And what’s your poiint
As a 9 i really like 3s
3w2
Shelbi Bay Davis same
same
Holy cow ... the 3 pleases systems. AIN’T THAT THE TRUTH lolol
Is your life your own?
Richar rohr i agree alot of what you have to say but u r getting a lot of typing wrong. Martha stewart is a 1 not 3
mpiazza000 agreed
And Rob Bell is a 3 not a 7 (otherwise I’m a 7 not a 3 lol)...but they get that one wrong a lot as well.
What kind of a Quacksalber is this?
As a President Trump was in my opinion the healthiest three ...if hes is that ive ever seen.
Which Pope was he referring to? Pope John Paul II of Pope Francis I?
JP 2 I think. Fits with the martha stewart timeline.
I feel attacked.
Is it weird that I’m good one to one than in groups ?😂 I’m sx/so
Same here ! Sexual 3 don’t like to promote themselves but they promote others. More shy and sweet. It’s the pleasing that is the goal.
man I just watched this guy completely destroy the 6...and looking at his other stuff he is ignoring the deterioration points and dwells on the good things on every single type but the six which he see's as postal shooters...cant trust a guy with such imbalanced repoorting...anyway heres what Don Riso who knew Gurdjev said about deteriorated 3's
Become vindictive, attempting to ruin others' happiness. Relentless, obsessive about destroying whatever reminds them of their own shortcomings and failures. Psychopathic behavior. Generally corresponds to the Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
Puritan energy
Who was the pope at the time of this recording
It looks like this DVD was recorded in 2004, so the Pope would have been John Paul II (in office 1978 to 2005).
Did not like the flippant reference to the Pope. He's the finest in generations. This remark, meant to ask you to be more conscious, comes from a Buddhist.
I took the test. I am a 3 apparently but I don’t feel like I am a 3. Is this normal?
I mean, i guess so. 3's are one of the 'out of touch' triad, I'm a 6 and some doesn't feel resonate with until I'm fully aware of my doings.
Don’t trust tests do your own researchs
Maybe sp 3 or sexual 3
Look up the subtypes from Beatrice chestnut you get your answer there
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Ummm hello- Yes
Damn am I a 3
Oh man min 15 another one ... the role reassures them that they have worth. Eh ... yeah. Basically yeah
This me
He said donald trump is a 3. What?! How can he be so wrong
he's an 8
8
A 3 wouldn't have that hair! Lol
I read he is an 8
President Trump is definitely an 8 !
Everyone's wrong sometimes, regardless of how good they are.
The achiever is the the Jew
😭😭😭😭
No doubt Trump is an 8 though
It's true
this is not spiritual truth... Mans perception of man.....
God's not a an intelligent, nor a philosopher... hes a Spirit he takes the foolish things of the world to confound the wise....
And now Donald Trump (a 3) is president!!!
For those who say Donald Trump is an 8 not an 3. Most books say that 3 can sometimes look like an 8, but in there core their a 3. So the question you should ask yourself is from Donald Trump core what does he care about the most looking good or challenging people
@@rentetier yes that's true
This video is from 2004
The darkside is strong with this one. Impressive media control from this group! Almost total suppression of any kind of review, or criticism of this "enneagram". Good SEO control. Totally evil, but effective. Looks like a cult.
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Lol, it's a lecture dude
@@robertguard3923 no bro it's deeper we're a cult 😆 this guy.
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