This really hit close to home! I was the only child I ever knew who colored inside the lines. I also relate deeply to those moments of serenity like staring at the Christmas tree and I feel lucky that I experience those moments often. I almost feel grateful that I was raised by very loosy-goosy parents because it probably softened my oneness a lot XD
So funny, I can relate very much “to live in grace” with “ I want to live in love with life” haha cos I know I have moments like that!! And the self-picking makes so much sense now, massive inner critic. And I quitted wanting to change others, but I’m deeply transforming myself. And also stopping to be a “barking dog” (used to be so much and also can relate) to the world, it makes no sense. People will change themselves if they want to! Thank you.
Random notes while listening to your excellent as always lecture: The One Drive: perfectionism. "I don't need you to like me, I just want you to know I'm right (for your own good), then you'll like me." (Ha!) Riso says 1's have trouble with father (or men) for being selfish and not always "virtuous." Reverend Dimmesdale in Scarlet Letter: repressed sexuality, preaches against lust while engaging in it. Workaholics, who need problems to solve, will create them if none are available. "I am a good boy or girl/afraid I'm not -- but I know YOU'RE not." (Projection, angry and self-righteous at people's anger and self-righteousness.) Aunt Polly/Schoolmarm who hates/is obsessed with Tom Sawyer little boys. (Which is why so many freethinkers have problems in school, run by 1's and 6's with a 9 principal, all of whom are threatened by passion and success (as shown by 3's, 4's, 7's, 8's).) Poor at multi-tasking (moreso than 5's for whom they can be mistaken.) Great at diligent detail-work. Lab workers. They also need moral purpose and service, unlike 5's who tend to doubt such. Accountants, treasurers, reformers, Satan-stranglers, Born-Agains. Church Lady on Saturday Night Live. "They have to have their way" -- Cardinal Richelieu, Captain Bligh."Oh ye scribes and pharisees ..." (Best policy with a 1: Let them teach you and serve you and help you -- "I hear you" is the best reply to them. "The best thing to do with advice is to pass it on, it can never be of any possible use to oneself." -- Oscar Wilde.) If 1's have a 2 wing, they can be more fun and socially engaging, like you, Richard. "To keep making it more perfect" but not to desperately need it to be perfect is a safe strategy for 1's. 1's naturally tend to evolve to 7's and so become more fun, experimental, and accepting as they grow/convert. 1's are like Virgos, they need to learn to ask for what they want, rather than wait for their servile dedication to be naturally rewarded. Also stroking and nurturing others from the heart can really really help their magic and loving purity to be expressed. (Swiss clocks.) (I once did a psychic reading party for a Swiss group, it was like reading Swiss clocks -- normally at least most one's will argue with me to prove I am not as accurate as I think!)
With regards to the story about crossing a road in Switzerland there's a good reason the law requires you to cross at designated places and it has to do NOT just with road safety (and even less to do with assumed anal retentiveness on the part of the citizenry) but also to do with the question of liability as well. There's a difference between being run over at an official crossing and elsewhere on the same road. Both painful to be sure but in a country like Switzerland, if you're run over at an official crossing the driver's insurance will compensate for injuries and or death. I'm sure the requirements are the same in most countries. That aside, I'm very new to the ideas of enneagram, As luck would have it I am a 1 so I understood very clearly the characteristics of a personality type 1. It seems that the driving force of this personality type is anger, Dissatisfaction might a be a more just term. The word 'anger' seems to imply a negative quality when in most cases we (number ones) tend to be frustrated at not achieving our intended goals or aims. It;s clear to me now, even after a brief introduction (and this was a very good lecture on the subject -informative, entertaining and thought-provoking) that I need to just round over some of my rougher edges before I become one of those bores who feels he has an inalienable right to proffer his view and judgement on everything including compensation for vehicular injuries on Swiss roads.
I see Abe as the saint of 9 with a 1 wing. Lincoln was not a barking dog. He was probably the greatest 9 in history. Read his second inaugural address. That is not an anger type. Exquisite power, relational genius.
Just looking into this, but I've been relating to the 1 hardcore. Of course, I have to look at the others and compare to be sure, but... That very thought process implies I am likely right, which gives me great pleasure. lol
to say that 4s "like depression" is a misunderstanding.. what we need is to be HONEST with our emotions maybe we trust them too much, maybe we over idealize or over romanticize them but isn't that the very definition of the artist archetype? we seem to be the only type able and willing to go all the way wherever our emotions lead us.. surely that's a commendable virtue
I am very One and you describe it so well, but I think that there is a component of the type of parenting we received. For example, I am not attracted to rigid dogmas or rigid anything. But, some things you say it took me a while to realize that it describes me.
Hi Melissa, Thank you sooo much for posting this, it is very helpful in understadig oneslef ... could you please upload the whole conference or at least the rest of the Types ? ... thanks again
One of the things Fr. Richard says at most of his conferences is that his explanation is not the whole, nor does he ever claim it to be. He's always asking people to hold on to the parts that are true. Picking apart his style and what he omits is missing the point of what the Enneagram is and does. Saying someone is dishonest about something because they leave out things, well, I guess we are ALL dishonest then. He has more credibility BECAUSE he doesn't act like he's the ONLY expert or that he's perfect. It's called GRACE, which he goes onto say about One's is very hard for them to get. Watching 2 or three videos isn't getting the whole. He doesn't 'tear' apart any number. He states the shadow side AND the gift side.
Yes, i really see what you are saying and what he is saying. I have this particular dvd which is really great, and watched it many times. One's own ego is going to get a little miffed when one finds out how our ego goes about its games. As an 8, it is not easy listening at first, and having done much work on myself, the hard yards come when I recognize when i'm in the middle of my suffering as an 8. Intense, confronting, challenging etc and its not easy to face the 'hardness.' We are the ultimate hard people and the growth for me has been to let Grace bring me to powerlessness, weakness and vulnerability. Grace is working on me, as i would not be able to do it myself. Thanks for putting these up.
You hit the nail on the head, Melissa. The whole concept of one's gift also being one's downfall is difficult for some to get their heads around. Like Yin and Yang...you can't really understand or appreciate what the positive attributes of your gift actually are if you don't understand the worse traits of your personality are.
I was watching this thinking, "oh I'm so glad I'm into meditation and such, it makes me less rigid.. I'm doing the right thing.". ..... 🙄😂 I'm a one, then.
Unsolicited note of praise and gratitude, Mr. Rohr: You do more to really spell out the nature of Enneagrams online than anyone else I have seen by far, very fun, informative, and entertaining, would love to see more panel discussions and group interaction, like talking with a number of 1's, 2's, 3's at a time (and their friends and mates!), would be very fun and interesting and possibly impactful on the mental health and wellbeing community.
I so agree with you Barbie Kat. I wish he'd describe ones as completely unhealthy as he describes sixes. I like some of the things I've read by Richard Rohr but he's lost me on this. If he described ones at the level he does sixes here's what we'd hear: To save their self image they justify themselves and silence criticism, closeminded, and allow no compromises or negotiations, bitter, misanthropic, perfectionist, opinionated, and highly self-righteous. Condemning and cannot stop themselves. Ones basically are the "Older brother" type of Christian that Timothy Keller. It's not that this guy is so wrong, it's just that he seems to point out the flaws of ones that are easy to swallow, but he points out all the lower health levels of sixes but stays at about the middle level of health for ones... clearly we all like to see our flaws as not as bad as others. I would have expected more from him... but I've learned that Christians are as self deluding as the rest of the world:(
Hahah yeah totally, he was really going into the Hitler and Nazi comparisons for the 6 at worst. But honestly I think it's possible that every religious zealot and fundamentalist in the world could be a 1 type - and some incredible atrocities have been committed and justified (or rationalized) in the name of what's 'right'. I've been close with a 1 for a few years, and I don't find they are super willing to admit their darkest side because they are trying so hard to be good and perfect.
I disagree with you entirely and think that you do not demonstrate objectiveness. These topics are not excuses for you or others to accuse, judge, compare or condemn people. They are not meant to stereotype people to imply everyone is a robot - exactly like the other. You sound very harsh and bitter - and who are you to say all Ones are what you described? Are you a god or an expert. The WHOLE point of this is that people all think they are better than certain others. We learn these to self-reflect. You are showing us what not to do as a human being. If learning more about something only seems to give you more resentment against others and not helping you to humblr yourself - then the problem may be that your heart is not right. Why are you badmouthing people?! Horrible!
@@realjamin7354 lol u missed the point she said that he talks about 1s unequally compared to 6s, potentially even the other types. chill on on the projecting/morality holier than thou games u coward. i still like what he's said ab 1s but it doesn't change the fact that there's bias. grow up and learn to read bf spouting the same hatefulness ur supposedly refuting
That definitely depends. Sx1’s are perfectly happy breaching societal or interpersonal rules if it doesn’t abide by their idea of righteousness. The 1 is rule abiding and rule enforcing, but it may very well be their own set of morals and not others. Reformer in the idyllic sense is the “perfect” descriptor for the enneagram 1
There's a woman here commenting incorrectly that Ones all "save their self image they justify themselves and silence criticism, closeminded, and allow no compromises or negotiations, bitter, misanthropic, perfectionist, opinionated, and highly self-righteous. Condemning and cannot stop themselves." I have to say you are wrong at least about all Ones being this way. I agree with Richard's description NOT yours. First of all I don't give a dime what others think of me (most Ones don't). Secondly, we are definitely not closeminded - in fact many of us are very creative, adventurous and like to try new things. I literally know no one who's ever said that of me. Definitely not bitter towarsds people either - just the ills of the world. In fact we are mostly not self-aware, but more issues-aware. I don't know which ONE divorced you or offended so that much you had to be on a public domain putting down an entire group of people, but you are off and very judgemental. It has NOT occured to me that learning about general types is a way for us to attack total strangers and spread bitterness. But please check your heart - you seem to be way too bitter and biased. The whole point of this video is to find out about our motives and try to find grace. You completely missed it. And what is with the Christian-bashing at the end. I don't even know what you're trying to do watching this? This is not so you can load up extra ammunition to put others down.
Not sure if I would believe any info from an individual who is religious. The religious have a filter that comes to erroneous conclusions. HOw can someone come to a conclusion a dead body came to life after a day and a 1/2 in a tomb and then tell me believable facts about type 1's. This does not compute. And yes I am a type one but his take on type ones is different from other individuals describing type ones.
You can tell that this guy is in the career field he’s meant to be in
"It's hard for ones to multitask like women and mothers do so well."
My problem right there: I'm a woman, a mom and also tested a 1w9
I bristled at that comment because I found it sexist. I really love this guy, but he occasionally makes sexist comments.
This really hit close to home! I was the only child I ever knew who colored inside the lines. I also relate deeply to those moments of serenity like staring at the Christmas tree and I feel lucky that I experience those moments often. I almost feel grateful that I was raised by very loosy-goosy parents because it probably softened my oneness a lot XD
I had a set of Precious Moments coloring books that I never colored in because they were too perfect, and I knew I couldn’t match it 😂
😂lol! That first need got me laughing so true ❤ Imagine being type 1 & Capricorn 😁 that’s me.
Thank you for this post. Your talks are transformative.
Beautiful description of type 1 from inside. Thanks from Italy!
"and sometimes i'll taste that happy little boy again"
great way to remind me that you're a preist
hahaha omg,my eyes are being opened to myself right now,this is so me lol ,thank you
So funny, I can relate very much “to live in grace” with “ I want to live in love with life” haha cos I know I have moments like that!! And the self-picking makes so much sense now, massive inner critic. And I quitted wanting to change others, but I’m deeply transforming myself. And also stopping to be a “barking dog” (used to be so much and also can relate) to the world, it makes no sense. People will change themselves if they want to! Thank you.
Random notes while listening to your excellent as always lecture: The One Drive: perfectionism. "I don't need you to like me, I just want you to know I'm right (for your own good), then you'll like me." (Ha!) Riso says 1's have trouble with father (or men) for being selfish and not always "virtuous." Reverend Dimmesdale in Scarlet Letter: repressed sexuality, preaches against lust while engaging in it. Workaholics, who need problems to solve, will create them if none are available. "I am a good boy or girl/afraid I'm not -- but I know YOU'RE not." (Projection, angry and self-righteous at people's anger and self-righteousness.) Aunt Polly/Schoolmarm who hates/is obsessed with Tom Sawyer little boys. (Which is why so many freethinkers have problems in school, run by 1's and 6's with a 9 principal, all of whom are threatened by passion and success (as shown by 3's, 4's, 7's, 8's).) Poor at multi-tasking (moreso than 5's for whom they can be mistaken.) Great at diligent detail-work. Lab workers. They also need moral purpose and service, unlike 5's who tend to doubt such. Accountants, treasurers, reformers, Satan-stranglers, Born-Agains. Church Lady on Saturday Night Live. "They have to have their way" -- Cardinal Richelieu, Captain Bligh."Oh ye scribes and pharisees ..." (Best policy with a 1: Let them teach you and serve you and help you -- "I hear you" is the best reply to them. "The best thing to do with advice is to pass it on, it can never be of any possible use to oneself." -- Oscar Wilde.) If 1's have a 2 wing, they can be more fun and socially engaging, like you, Richard. "To keep making it more perfect" but not to desperately need it to be perfect is a safe strategy for 1's. 1's naturally tend to evolve to 7's and so become more fun, experimental, and accepting as they grow/convert. 1's are like Virgos, they need to learn to ask for what they want, rather than wait for their servile dedication to be naturally rewarded. Also stroking and nurturing others from the heart can really really help their magic and loving purity to be expressed. (Swiss clocks.) (I once did a psychic reading party for a Swiss group, it was like reading Swiss clocks -- normally at least most one's will argue with me to prove I am not as accurate as I think!)
listening to you makes me think I am also a 1 but somehow I still like you Richard. Please keep up the struggle. It helps me enormously with mine.
I saw my 7 when I saw my 1 and 5. You look to the side. Never look directly at who you are.
Wow, this was brilliant and entertaining. Positively amazing.
9:22 I'm also a 1 and had to pause here to yell "YES!" at my laptop XD
His book goes further in depth. He only had one afternoon to do all 9 types plus the wings, plus the disintegration and integration of all types.
Are you referring to the book My soul child?
When my throw blankets are folded and pillows situated just right on the couch- satisfaction!
Sooo much truth, I can relate to every word....😌❤️
I do not see where you uploaded the #2. This was excellent. Thank you. I am interested in the 2.
With regards to the story about crossing a road in Switzerland there's a good reason the law requires you to cross at designated places and it has to do NOT just with road safety (and even less to do with assumed anal retentiveness on the part of the citizenry) but also to do with the question of liability as well. There's a difference between being run over at an official crossing and elsewhere on the same road. Both painful to be sure but in a country like Switzerland, if you're run over at an official crossing the driver's insurance will compensate for injuries and or death. I'm sure the requirements are the same in most countries.
That aside, I'm very new to the ideas of enneagram, As luck would have it I am a 1 so I understood very clearly the characteristics of a personality type 1. It seems that the driving force of this personality type is anger, Dissatisfaction might a be a more just term. The word 'anger' seems to imply a negative quality when in most cases we (number ones) tend to be frustrated at not achieving our intended goals or aims.
It;s clear to me now, even after a brief introduction (and this was a very good lecture on the subject -informative, entertaining and thought-provoking) that I need to just round over some of my rougher edges before I become one of those bores who feels he has an inalienable right to proffer his view and judgement on everything including compensation for vehicular injuries on Swiss roads.
I see Abe as the saint of 9 with a 1 wing. Lincoln was not a barking dog. He was probably the greatest 9 in history. Read his second inaugural address. That is not an anger type. Exquisite power, relational genius.
Charles peterson yes, I’ve heard Abe was a 9
9 is an anger type though?
Just looking into this, but I've been relating to the 1 hardcore. Of course, I have to look at the others and compare to be sure, but... That very thought process implies I am likely right, which gives me great pleasure. lol
Thank you for making this available! 🙂
This guy is hilarious
to say that 4s "like depression" is a misunderstanding.. what we need is to be HONEST with our emotions
maybe we trust them too much, maybe we over idealize or over romanticize them
but isn't that the very definition of the artist archetype?
we seem to be the only type able and willing to go all the way wherever our emotions lead us.. surely that's a commendable virtue
Lol ironically I'm a 1 and Mexican.. always on time 🙌🏼✌
😂😂 my best friend is Hispanic so I know exactly what you are saying 🤣
Mexicanss are between 8 and 9. 8,5 if u will
I am very One and you describe it so well, but I think that there is a component of the type of parenting we received. For example, I am not attracted to rigid dogmas or rigid anything. But, some things you say it took me a while to realize that it describes me.
I am a good girl! Hahahahaha!!! Thank you Fr. Rohr.
Hi Melissa, Thank you sooo much for posting this, it is very helpful in understadig oneslef ... could you please upload the whole conference or at least the rest of the Types ? ... thanks again
i want to see type 9!!! please upload it!
He is Fr Richard Rohr & he is a Franciscan
I feel like being a 5w4 according to this thing makes me need to be right too
So interesting, this says all about me, a typical type.
Vacuumed carpets ;)
Thank you very much! I would like to purchase this DVD. Could you please confirm the title?
Sure!! It's The Enneagram: The Discernment of Spirits.
Do you also have the 2, 3, 7, 8, and 9? ? ? :D
YESSIR
@@Bharatultra Ma'am ;)
what a man
so funny and accurate hahahahah
One of the things Fr. Richard says at most of his conferences is that his explanation is not the whole, nor does he ever claim it to be. He's always asking people to hold on to the parts that are true. Picking apart his style and what he omits is missing the point of what the Enneagram is and does. Saying someone is dishonest about something because they leave out things, well, I guess we are ALL dishonest then. He has more credibility BECAUSE he doesn't act like he's the ONLY expert or that he's perfect. It's called GRACE, which he goes onto say about One's is very hard for them to get. Watching 2 or three videos isn't getting the whole. He doesn't 'tear' apart any number. He states the shadow side AND the gift side.
Yes, i really see what you are saying and what he is saying. I have this particular dvd which is really great, and watched it many times. One's own ego is going to get a little miffed when one finds out how our ego goes about its games. As an 8, it is not easy listening at first, and having done much work on myself, the hard yards come when I recognize when i'm in the middle of my suffering as an 8. Intense, confronting, challenging etc and its not easy to face the 'hardness.' We are the ultimate hard people and the growth for me has been to let Grace bring me to powerlessness, weakness and vulnerability. Grace is working on me, as i would not be able to do it myself. Thanks for putting these up.
Will you be putting up videos for other types?
He didn't touch on the 'gift' side for 4s at all
You hit the nail on the head, Melissa.
The whole concept of one's gift also being one's downfall is difficult for some to get their heads around. Like Yin and Yang...you can't really understand or appreciate what the positive attributes of your gift actually are if you don't understand the worse traits of your personality are.
Could you post him speaking about the other types? I see a few others, but they're not all there.
I was watching this thinking, "oh I'm so glad I'm into meditation and such, it makes me less rigid.. I'm doing the right thing.".
.....
🙄😂 I'm a one, then.
I can relate 😍😍
How strange, I've been contemplating "Oness as an art form" lately....hmm🤔
Thank you
I can't find where to get the complete set at Center for Action and Contemplation. What is the correct title?
store.cac.org/Enneagram-The-Discernment-of-Spirits-DVD_p_166.html
Unsolicited note of praise and gratitude, Mr. Rohr: You do more to really spell out the nature of Enneagrams online than anyone else I have seen by far, very fun, informative, and entertaining, would love to see more panel discussions and group interaction, like talking with a number of 1's, 2's, 3's at a time (and their friends and mates!), would be very fun and interesting and possibly impactful on the mental health and wellbeing community.
Sooooo insightful! As a 7 🤪
May I kindly ask You to upload Type 3 please ?
not all women are good at multi-tasking XD
And then they tell you “Gosh, you are too intensely focusing on this! Relax, smile.” ...NO.
"Ones can't multi-task like women and mothers". There are many female Ones. And many of them can, in fact, multi-task.
You misunderstood what he said. He did “Ones” cannot multi task like how women and mothers can do so well. Start at 7:59 to listen again please.
I'm a woman who is a one, that cannot multi-task.
One what authority does he draw?
That was a weird comment regarding Mexicans. I always thought they were hard workers
They have a great work ethic but they're much less obsessive compulsive. They're probably a 7 country.
May I kindly ask You to upload Type 4?
Sure!!!
Thank You for Your kindness!!! My best wishes and kind regards!!!
I so agree with you Barbie Kat. I wish he'd describe ones as completely unhealthy as he describes sixes. I like some of the things I've read by Richard Rohr but he's lost me on this. If he described ones at the level he does sixes here's what we'd hear: To save their self image they justify themselves and silence criticism, closeminded, and allow no compromises or negotiations, bitter, misanthropic, perfectionist, opinionated, and highly self-righteous. Condemning and cannot stop themselves. Ones basically are the "Older brother" type of Christian that Timothy Keller. It's not that this guy is so wrong, it's just that he seems to point out the flaws of ones that are easy to swallow, but he points out all the lower health levels of sixes but stays at about the middle level of health for ones... clearly we all like to see our flaws as not as bad as others. I would have expected more from him... but I've learned that Christians are as self deluding as the rest of the world:(
Hahah yeah totally, he was really going into the Hitler and Nazi comparisons for the 6 at worst. But honestly I think it's possible that every religious zealot and fundamentalist in the world could be a 1 type - and some incredible atrocities have been committed and justified (or rationalized) in the name of what's 'right'. I've been close with a 1 for a few years, and I don't find they are super willing to admit their darkest side because they are trying so hard to be good and perfect.
I disagree with you entirely and think that you do not demonstrate objectiveness. These topics are not excuses for you or others to accuse, judge, compare or condemn people. They are not meant to stereotype people to imply everyone is a robot - exactly like the other. You sound very harsh and bitter - and who are you to say all Ones are what you described? Are you a god or an expert. The WHOLE point of this is that people all think they are better than certain others. We learn these to self-reflect. You are showing us what not to do as a human being. If learning more about something only seems to give you more resentment against others and not helping you to humblr yourself - then the problem may be that your heart is not right. Why are you badmouthing people?! Horrible!
@@realjamin7354 lol u missed the point she said that he talks about 1s unequally compared to 6s, potentially even the other types. chill on on the projecting/morality holier than thou games u coward. i still like what he's said ab 1s but it doesn't change the fact that there's bias. grow up and learn to read bf spouting the same hatefulness ur supposedly refuting
I'm literally Type 1. Bruh he fr tho I'm type 1
I like megumin
That comment about Mexicans...
1 cores for you
So who is this guy and where is he teaching?
Im a 9 and I hired all 9s haha
Does anybody know the name of this guy ?
Richard Rohr
Thanks !
My gma is a 1. Shes like the mom from Everybody loves Raymond. Prickly difficult folks.
The first time I tested it said I was a 1
Wait. Are you implying that people don’t usually part from gatherings at 8:30pm just to reach home at 9:30pm, all juiced out? O.O my mind is blown..
Reformer just isn’t a good word for 1’s. It implies change or revolution and 1’s are often very rule-abiding and rule-enforcing rather than reformers.
That definitely depends. Sx1’s are perfectly happy breaching societal or interpersonal rules if it doesn’t abide by their idea of righteousness. The 1 is rule abiding and rule enforcing, but it may very well be their own set of morals and not others. Reformer in the idyllic sense is the “perfect” descriptor for the enneagram 1
Oh God, I think this is me!! Lol :)
Oof das me
I think my wound came learning about slavery in America 2nd grade😢not a perfect world….
Who is this guy
There's a woman here commenting incorrectly that Ones all "save their self image they justify themselves and silence criticism, closeminded, and allow no compromises or negotiations, bitter, misanthropic, perfectionist, opinionated, and highly self-righteous. Condemning and cannot stop themselves." I have to say you are wrong at least about all Ones being this way. I agree with Richard's description NOT yours. First of all I don't give a dime what others think of me (most Ones don't). Secondly, we are definitely not closeminded - in fact many of us are very creative, adventurous and like to try new things. I literally know no one who's ever said that of me. Definitely not bitter towarsds people either - just the ills of the world. In fact we are mostly not self-aware, but more issues-aware. I don't know which ONE divorced you or offended so that much you had to be on a public domain putting down an entire group of people, but you are off and very judgemental. It has NOT occured to me that learning about general types is a way for us to attack total strangers and spread bitterness. But please check your heart - you seem to be way too bitter and biased. The whole point of this video is to find out about our motives and try to find grace. You completely missed it. And what is with the Christian-bashing at the end. I don't even know what you're trying to do watching this? This is not so you can load up extra ammunition to put others down.
omg ur so wyld
Also, what an odd thing to say that 1s are poor multitaskers, unlike women. Is he assuming women aren't able to be 1s? That makes no sense.
Jordan Peterson.
Could be.
Nothing wrong with being Republican 😘
Seem like miserable people
Not sure if I would believe any info from an individual who is religious. The religious have a filter that comes to erroneous conclusions. HOw can someone come to a conclusion a dead body came to life after a day and a 1/2 in a tomb and then tell me believable facts about type 1's. This does not compute. And yes I am a type one but his take on type ones is different from other individuals describing type ones.
I thought Abe Lincoln was a 9?
Enneagram is originated from pagan religion,and today pastors mixing everything,you are a volt in seep closed