@@drKrueger100 I don't know why that surprises me ... I've never met a fundamentalist Lutheran, but if I stop & think about it, nearly every church does seem to have its "charismatic" faction.
In lockdown in a small ground floor apartment, living alone (which I confess I enjoy), looking out my window, utterly at peace, delightedly watching birds and squirrels at the feeders, & hearing myself saying "thank you".
The challenge is to see snakes or spiders and also say thank you. It is easy to be joyous in cuddly animals and pretty plants. But can we see God in a scorpion? Instead of roses, can we see God in poison ivy?
I lost my religious beliefs at age 40 and then a few months later, I had an enormously impactful mystical experience that lasted a full day. By definition these experiences are ineffable, but I feel I must at least try to explain because it was … just wondrous. It began with watching the last leaf on the lowest branch of our tree in the backyard break away and float to the ground. And it could have been 30 seconds or a lifetime - or maybe I should say time fell away & I was here now, deeper than I’d ever been. Somehow this triggered mystical time. Then I walked into the bedroom and my husband was holding my baby girl above him, and they were smiling and laughing joyously at each other and in that instant I knew I was inside of them too. And then I noticed the Amy that I had been for decades was gone - I was someone else. Because of my religious background I call him/her God/Goddess but all I can tell you is I felt ancient and more masculine than I normally feel. And I knew, KNEW that I was also my husband and my daughter. So we leave to run errands, it’s a Saturday morning and we park at Tractor Supply. It’s before noon. I get out of the truck and look up at the beautiful trees and I feel such joy. Such JOY!!! And so I got my baby girl out of her car seat and began dancing with her around the parking lot. This part makes me emotional because I can promise you, I have never been close to that happiness before or after, to feel such joy that I can dance with a baby in Tractor Supply’s parking lot with no music, on a Saturday morning- there is no substance on this earth that could get me there. For the rest of the day, my senses were sooo enhanced. Music was amazing! Eating was insanely phenomenal!! I think I lost the mystical experience when after dinner I had to write a poem - but honestly I wouldn’t trade this day for all the riches in the world. For whoever is reading this - thank you for listening. To the Friar - thank you for sharing this important & wonderful message. I’ll share the poem. Sending love to all ❤❤❤ Preparing dinner Peeling potatoes As if this knife is the bow This spud the strings Of a violin whose sounds stream from headphones to heart Chopping now to the bass’ rhythm Thud Chop Thud Chop Thud Chop Bringing a slice to my lips Breathing in the smell of fresh dirt I taste the Earth And all of a sudden I’m swept away My soul flies I can see my mother, her mother On & on, an eternity of women Side by side, Peeling potatoes We are all together We are all the same The music ends My man, my daughter approach And all I can give them is love Love, it fills me up Love is all that there is Love is all that exists.
@@santigabriel333 thank you for reading & commenting. this happened almost 4 years ago and although I’ve told a few family/friends - it’s somehow not the same as being able to finally write it down and share it, even if it’s through a RUclips comment (which is weirdly where I share the deepest parts of my soul more than any other medium) And so finally writing down the experience & having someone read it who gets how amazing it really is & then commenting back to me - it just feels so good. I didn’t realize how much I needed it. So thank you so much. Blessings to you & your loved ones 🙏🏻❤️🤗
Hello friend, thank you for sharing. I really appreciate when I experience God in moments like that. I hang on to them. They reassure me that life has meaning, that there is something behind life that is it's source, that is magnificent, awe inspiring and beautiful and good, and that it invites us to share in the love and life that it in and of itself "is", both here and now and in our next life. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth.... That they may be one in me and I in you, even as you and I are one. Rohrs theology does so much to reconcile what we experience with what we read in Scripture. I appreciate hearing your experience. It reassures me of my own :) thank you Amyhodges.
Fifty years, I have been searching for this understanding since the day Mary told me that memory, reading skills, and physical prowess didn’t matter and to keep looking for my place in the Kingdom of God. Thanks, Richard for keeping the door open.
Welcome Harold. All my life I thought and talked this way. When I found Richard it was the affirmation I needed to live a life like very few ever get to live. A TRULY spiritual life touched by the divine.
i have been dedicated to listening to many different takes on spiritual mysticism, from the religious Christ followers of the west as well as the many different religious and spiritual cultures of the east and other places around the world. This man gets it 100%, and what's more amazing to me is that behind the curtain of these different cultures and backgrounds there is this repeating message of universal (hidden in plain sight ) unity, a heart mind above/behind the human mind. that brings us to this singular point of faith or "knowing" and to me, it seems that God really does enjoy the whole spectrum of this creation, like many different creeks and rivers that flow into one big ocean at the end of it all. Richard Rohr's understanding of this cosmic Christ that resides in all is one of the best ways I have heard this repeated "knowing" and that god is just right here...Fantastic!!!
My uncle was a Franciscan friar who ended up living in the Vatican. Father John Joseph of Buffalo.I was an atheist all my life even though I practiced as a Roman Catholic. It was forced from birth. My uncle always fascinated me because he seemed to know something that I couldn't understand or see. Fast forward and I find out he had a profound psychedelic experience back in the early 60's and went to figure out what he had experienced.To have that expero nice naturally. I've since followed that logic and have had these experiences showing the divine is within and without . The non dual experience.
A lot of people have found that the psychedelic experience could help them experience the divine. Most I am aware of would phrase it as it accelerated their being able to "find the door" but wouldn't keep it open. Their practice/disciplines would turn out to be the means to keep it open. The path may vary for many but my experience is as I mentioned in the experience of those I have read about. Peace and All Good...
I could listen forever; I take in more every time. This talk takes me back 6 decades to those first awakenings I would come to recognize in Franciscan theology. (Goosebumps!) And maybe one day I'll reach the point where I'm deaf to that "now don't be afraid of the big words" 😁
Same here. It was decades before all the pieces clicked into place. I know Someone was guiding me ... I’d never have gotten this far on my own. I’m old, now, and mostly confined to a wheelchair, but my inner 4-year-old is still dancing.
This is Richard Rohr. He is a Franciscan Monk and is currently at the Center for Action and Contemplation he founded in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Look up the Center for Action and Contemplations website for more info. I am a study of his for several years. I found him while researching after some experiences I had as a result of my practice to find that I had become a Christian Mystic. I may start teaching on this channel. Please check back. Would you be interested in that?
WOW! All I can say is: WOW! This guy is really good. He really knows what he's talking about. I wish so many more Catholics, Christians, and in fact all people would listen to what this man has to say. Buy his books. Read what he teaches and teach others!
Yes... indeed. Been a student from afar of his for almost 8 years now. Gave me greater understanding and more practical tools for actual transformation than anyone else.
The Bonaventure quotes are from p. 67 of the Paulist Press collection of Bonaventure's writings. Writings of this sort of love, like Christ Himself, are not understood by the mind that hates its enemies and imagines that Hell is more than a day event (the Last Day). Peace to all souls!
At 5:00 it is stated "Thats what happens when you worship somebody instead of following somebody" With the intention of that statement, If it's true, why is it then that Jesus is being worshiped instead of his words being followed?
This wise Friar tuned my mind towards non-dualism. Since last year, Upanishads and the Spanish mystics have been my reading, and I find I'm understanding my kinsman, Saint Columba, a lot better. One minor point, and one complementary to Scotland, Duns Scotus was Scottish, not English, as Richard Rohr mistakenly said. His sarcophagus in Cologne reads: ''Scotland brought me forth, England sustained me, France taught me, Cologne holds me.''
"Save us, Saviour of the world, for by your cross and resurrection you have set us free." Every time I hear that, my head hurts. Semi-redundance aside, if we have been set free, why should we be begging for what has already been given?
I see this as more the cry of those who do not wish to actually be transformed by their practice or seeking and instead wish to be lazily saved from themselves never actually changing.
@@newtonboyd I find it troubling that the liturgy (by way of the Church) is leaning increasingly more in this direction. It feels like we're being "whipped into shape", being constantly reminded of how "undeserving" we are. To say "I'm sorry" all the time instead of "thank you!" Where I live, Mass is now only attended by video link, & I'm saddened to discover that the only thing I miss about in-person attendance are the Tabernacle & Eucharist. I find myself needing to return to these videos (often) to remember the joy and clarity of those early "knowings" which first led me to the church as it was (and the extraordinary priest who steered me toward Fr. Richard) at that time now quite long ago. I'm so grateful you have posted these; I don't like to think where I'd be without them.
@@samikirk05 I'm so very happy that this is serving you. It helps me as a practitioner of a tangible relationship with God to know that there are others like me. I am hoping to expand on these sharing teachings I have learned which have become in some ways mine now. Again Thank You and Peace be with you...
Feb 1, 2023 - watching the Pope/Mass in DRC: the vivid colours, the ululations, the joyful singing, people moving to the music ... It’s a very long time since I could dance, but I found myself “chair dancing”, and I thought: oh, we need this here in the western Church. We need to *feel* it, not just (not always, but often) recite in robotic monotone. And not be scolded or scorned when moved to move, as happened to one now former lifelong parishioner a few years ago 🙁
Perhaps God is like a fractal geometric shape, with infinite dimensions. Where every point in space and time is present within every other point of space and time. If you want to reach the other side of the Universe, you don't really have to reach for something that is already present. And a fractal is a non-dualistic shape. It has unique "shapeness" that is also completely identical to every other part of the shape.
While this Lecture I believe is true, I invite scholars to discuss how we can intelligently convince today’s mainline habitual thinking of Christ. It seems that the first step is to show how each writer of the New Testament, with next being the Fathers of the Church, how each one’s thinking taken individually has not only mistakes, but can too easily become for the not so bright as being definitive, without a development of TRUE “doctrine”, that is, becoming a wrongful path towards true spirituality.
Given that the story of Adam and Eve is essentially a metaphor, how could we be redeemed from metaphorical sin(s)? Therefore (to my mind) it follows that incarnation only makes sense if it's relational. Not to say he didn't provide us with a road map for "right living". A map we seem consistently (in the broad sense) to dismiss.
The Genesis account, including the Fall of Adam and Eve from the Garden, is not metaphor but symbol. Whereas metaphors represent something other than themselves, symbols are themselves first and foremost, i.e. irreducible archetypal realities. Symbols are not less real than concrete historical facts but more real, and their impact pervades the human mind and heart as no episode in history could.
It is odd however that something experienced/embodied isn't already perceived within everyone from the get go though. Maybe it's a type of mind hide and go seek thing. Something we already are but our thinking gets in the way. Because the dogmatic image/definition of what a God is written about as I understand it, seems to need invited in. And I feel a real higher power can't come from the outside...it should already be.
There are no monks or church buildings in my King James Bible book of the Acts of the Apostles. Almighty God does not dwell in temples made with hands. Temple worship and sacrifice, along with the priesthood, were completely abolished by the Lord Jesus Christ at Calvary. Hebrews chapters 7-10 KJV. So what are you talking about ?
Richard Rohr is such a breath of fresh air. He is one who truly shares the loving message of the Holy Spirit. His lectures and audiobooks are gold! 🙏🏾
Thank you, Fr. Richard. I have been following you for 25 years, because you gave me a revitalization of reality.
Thank God for this man. He is spiritual healing to this battered and bruised Catholic.
Fundamentalist, Evangelical Lutherans too
@@drKrueger100 I don't know why that surprises me ... I've never met a fundamentalist Lutheran, but if I stop & think about it, nearly every church does seem to have its "charismatic" faction.
I am so grateful for Rev. Richard Rohr, OFM. God is using him in a very powerful way in todays world. 🙏🙏🙏
In lockdown in a small ground floor apartment, living alone (which I confess I enjoy), looking out my window, utterly at peace, delightedly watching birds and squirrels at the feeders, & hearing myself saying "thank you".
I find myself in much the same situation. The simply things really mean more than all the "doing" the world values so much. .
The challenge is to see snakes or spiders and also say thank you. It is easy to be joyous in cuddly animals and pretty plants. But can we see God in a scorpion? Instead of roses, can we see God in poison ivy?
Isn't this the most beautiful thing I have a fabulous flock of birds which regularly visit my yard 😍
I lost my religious beliefs at age 40 and then a few months later, I had an enormously impactful mystical experience that lasted a full day. By definition these experiences are ineffable, but I feel I must at least try to explain because it was … just wondrous. It began with watching the last leaf on the lowest branch of our tree in the backyard break away and float to the ground. And it could have been 30 seconds or a lifetime - or maybe I should say time fell away & I was here now, deeper than I’d ever been. Somehow this triggered mystical time. Then I walked into the bedroom and my husband was holding my baby girl above him, and they were smiling and laughing joyously at each other and in that instant I knew I was inside of them too. And then I noticed the Amy that I had been for decades was gone - I was someone else. Because of my religious background I call him/her God/Goddess but all I can tell you is I felt ancient and more masculine than I normally feel. And I knew, KNEW that I was also my husband and my daughter. So we leave to run errands, it’s a Saturday morning and we park at Tractor Supply. It’s before noon. I get out of the truck and look up at the beautiful trees and I feel such joy. Such JOY!!! And so I got my baby girl out of her car seat and began dancing with her around the parking lot. This part makes me emotional because I can promise you, I have never been close to that happiness before or after, to feel such joy that I can dance with a baby in Tractor Supply’s parking lot with no music, on a Saturday morning- there is no substance on this earth that could get me there. For the rest of the day, my senses were sooo enhanced. Music was amazing! Eating was insanely phenomenal!! I think I lost the mystical experience when after dinner I had to write a poem - but honestly I wouldn’t trade this day for all the riches in the world. For whoever is reading this - thank you for listening. To the Friar - thank you for sharing this important & wonderful message.
I’ll share the poem. Sending love to all ❤❤❤
Preparing dinner
Peeling potatoes
As if this knife is the bow
This spud the strings
Of a violin whose sounds stream from headphones to heart
Chopping now to the bass’ rhythm
Thud Chop
Thud Chop
Thud Chop
Bringing a slice to my lips
Breathing in the smell of fresh dirt
I taste the Earth
And all of a sudden I’m swept away
My soul flies
I can see my mother, her mother
On & on, an eternity of women
Side by side,
Peeling potatoes
We are all together
We are all the same
The music ends
My man, my daughter approach
And all I can give them is love
Love, it fills me up
Love is all that there is
Love is all that exists.
Amazing!
@@santigabriel333 thank you for reading & commenting. this happened almost 4 years ago and although I’ve told a few family/friends - it’s somehow not the same as being able to finally write it down and share it, even if it’s through a RUclips comment (which is weirdly where I share the deepest parts of my soul more than any other medium) And so finally writing down the experience & having someone read it who gets how amazing it really is & then commenting back to me - it just feels so good. I didn’t realize how much I needed it. So thank you so much. Blessings to you & your loved ones 🙏🏻❤️🤗
Hello friend, thank you for sharing. I really appreciate when I experience God in moments like that. I hang on to them. They reassure me that life has meaning, that there is something behind life that is it's source, that is magnificent, awe inspiring and beautiful and good, and that it invites us to share in the love and life that it in and of itself "is", both here and now and in our next life. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth.... That they may be one in me and I in you, even as you and I are one. Rohrs theology does so much to reconcile what we experience with what we read in Scripture. I appreciate hearing your experience. It reassures me of my own :) thank you Amyhodges.
Spirituality is understanding the heart of God.
Mysticism is exploring the mind of God.
Fifty years, I have been searching for this understanding since the day Mary told me that memory, reading skills, and physical prowess didn’t matter and to keep looking for my place in the Kingdom of God. Thanks, Richard for keeping the door open.
Welcome Harold. All my life I thought and talked this way. When I found Richard it was the affirmation I needed to live a life like very few ever get to live. A TRULY spiritual life touched by the divine.
Beautiful, Father Rohr. It can’t be said enough! Thank you for getting this really “Good News” (in fact, very ancient truth) out there.
i have been dedicated to listening to many different takes on spiritual mysticism, from the religious Christ followers of the west as well as the many different religious and spiritual cultures of the east and other places around the world. This man gets it 100%, and what's more amazing to me is that behind the curtain of these different cultures and backgrounds there is this repeating message of universal (hidden in plain sight ) unity, a heart mind above/behind the human mind. that brings us to this singular point of faith or "knowing" and to me, it seems that God really does enjoy the whole spectrum of this creation, like many different creeks and rivers that flow into one big ocean at the end of it all. Richard Rohr's understanding of this cosmic Christ that resides in all is one of the best ways I have heard this repeated "knowing" and that god is just right here...Fantastic!!!
My uncle was a Franciscan friar who ended up living in the Vatican. Father John Joseph of Buffalo.I was an atheist all my life even though I practiced as a Roman Catholic. It was forced from birth. My uncle always fascinated me because he seemed to know something that I couldn't understand or see. Fast forward and I find out he had a profound psychedelic experience back in the early 60's and went to figure out what he had experienced.To have that expero nice naturally. I've since followed that logic and have had these experiences showing the divine is within and without . The non dual experience.
A lot of people have found that the psychedelic experience could help them experience the divine. Most I am aware of would phrase it as it accelerated their being able to "find the door" but wouldn't keep it open. Their practice/disciplines would turn out to be the means to keep it open. The path may vary for many but my experience is as I mentioned in the experience of those I have read about.
Peace and All Good...
I could listen forever; I take in more every time. This talk takes me back 6 decades to those first awakenings I would come to recognize in Franciscan theology. (Goosebumps!)
And maybe one day I'll reach the point where I'm deaf to that "now don't be afraid of the big words" 😁
Love it.
He is fascinating, isn't he? :-)
Same here. It was decades before all the pieces clicked into place. I know Someone was guiding me ... I’d never have gotten this far on my own. I’m old, now, and mostly confined to a wheelchair, but my inner 4-year-old is still dancing.
“Becoming what you already are”
That’s beatiful!
This is Richard Rohr. He is a Franciscan Monk and is currently at the Center for Action and Contemplation he founded in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Look up the Center for Action and Contemplations website for more info. I am a study of his for several years. I found him while researching after some experiences I had as a result of my practice to find that I had become a Christian Mystic. I may start teaching on this channel. Please check back. Would you be interested in that?
Yes
He is a Franciscan _friar_.
What an evolving realization of the reality of God! For me it is a maturation of spirituality in reality!
Deep..."Becoming what you slready are." Good to learn more. Thanks Fr!
Finally someone that represents christ pretty well!
Preach!
I'd give just about anything for a single hour of this man's time. Questions questions questions!
WOW! All I can say is: WOW! This guy is really good. He really knows what he's talking about. I wish so many more Catholics, Christians, and in fact all people would listen to what this man has to say. Buy his books. Read what he teaches and teach others!
Yes... indeed. Been a student from afar of his for almost 8 years now. Gave me greater understanding and more practical tools for actual transformation than anyone else.
Thank you for posting 🙏💖
This kind of practical mysticism has been present in Eastern teachings for 5,000+ years. Good to see Christians catching up.
Indeed. It has pulled it ALL together for me.
Of course, so much better to "start with original blessing." Deo Gratias!
Everything that's breathing praise the Lord!
Beautiful 💓💓💓
The Bonaventure quotes are from p. 67 of the Paulist Press collection of Bonaventure's writings. Writings of this sort of love, like Christ Himself, are not understood by the mind that hates its enemies and imagines that Hell is more than a day event (the Last Day). Peace to all souls!
I don't think either St Bonaventure nor St Francis was a universalist
Thank You Father.
oh my days....incarnation....univocity....universal mysticism.......of course God is humble
So many parallels with the teachings of the Buddha!
At 5:00 it is stated "Thats what happens when you worship somebody instead of following somebody" With the intention of that statement, If it's true, why is it then that Jesus is being worshiped instead of his words being followed?
Has changed my life
The I know is faith in action. It is wonderful to have the confidence of knowing.
"Being is one". Wow...!!!
This wise Friar tuned my mind towards non-dualism. Since last year, Upanishads and the Spanish mystics have been my reading, and I find I'm understanding my kinsman, Saint Columba, a lot better. One minor point, and one complementary to Scotland, Duns Scotus was Scottish, not English, as Richard Rohr mistakenly said. His sarcophagus in Cologne reads: ''Scotland brought me forth, England sustained me, France taught me, Cologne holds me.''
"Save us, Saviour of the world, for by your cross and resurrection you have set us free." Every time I hear that, my head hurts. Semi-redundance aside, if we have been set free, why should we be begging for what has already been given?
I see this as more the cry of those who do not wish to actually be transformed by their practice or seeking and instead wish to be lazily saved from themselves never actually changing.
@@newtonboyd I find it troubling that the liturgy (by way of the Church) is leaning increasingly more in this direction. It feels like we're being "whipped into shape", being constantly reminded of how "undeserving" we are. To say "I'm sorry" all the time instead of "thank you!" Where I live, Mass is now only attended by video link, & I'm saddened to discover that the only thing I miss about in-person attendance are the Tabernacle & Eucharist. I find myself needing to return to these videos (often) to remember the joy and clarity of those early "knowings" which first led me to the church as it was (and the extraordinary priest who steered me toward Fr. Richard) at that time now quite long ago. I'm so grateful you have posted these; I don't like to think where I'd be without them.
@@samikirk05 I'm so very happy that this is serving you. It helps me as a practitioner of a tangible relationship with God to know that there are others like me. I am hoping to expand on these sharing teachings I have learned which have become in some ways mine now. Again Thank You and Peace be with you...
Feb 1, 2023 - watching the Pope/Mass in DRC: the vivid colours, the ululations, the joyful singing, people moving to the music ... It’s a very long time since I could dance, but I found myself “chair dancing”, and I thought: oh, we need this here in the western Church. We need to *feel* it, not just (not always, but often) recite in robotic monotone. And not be scolded or scorned when moved to move, as happened to one now former lifelong parishioner a few years ago 🙁
great. I love your talk and I really really like your non - gendering of God. This makes so much sense.
When you worship somebody rather than follow them!!!
Perhaps God is like a fractal geometric shape, with infinite dimensions. Where every point in space and time is present within every other point of space and time. If you want to reach the other side of the Universe, you don't really have to reach for something that is already present. And a fractal is a non-dualistic shape. It has unique "shapeness" that is also completely identical to every other part of the shape.
Wow... Good Stuff Julian.
As I have said before, if you are not a mystic, you are not a Christian. Veronica OCDS R. I. Thank you Fr. Richard 🙏
The true mystic knows and knows they have to e solitary. Communal mystics are always at the mercy of the others.
La mia amica stretta da bambina....di nome Daria....viveva in via San Damiano
💚🙏
While this Lecture I believe is true, I invite scholars to discuss how we can intelligently convince today’s mainline habitual thinking of Christ.
It seems that the first step is to show how each writer of the New Testament, with next being the Fathers of the Church, how each one’s thinking taken individually has not only mistakes, but can too easily become for the not so bright as being definitive, without a development of TRUE “doctrine”, that is, becoming a wrongful path towards true spirituality.
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Given that the story of Adam and Eve is essentially a metaphor, how could we be redeemed from metaphorical sin(s)? Therefore (to my mind) it follows that incarnation only makes sense if it's relational. Not to say he didn't provide us with a road map for "right living". A map we seem consistently (in the broad sense) to dismiss.
The Genesis account, including the Fall of Adam and Eve from the Garden, is not metaphor but symbol. Whereas metaphors represent something other than themselves, symbols are themselves first and foremost, i.e. irreducible archetypal realities. Symbols are not less real than concrete historical facts but more real, and their impact pervades the human mind and heart as no episode in history could.
It is odd however that something experienced/embodied isn't already perceived within everyone from the get go though. Maybe it's a type of mind hide and go seek thing. Something we already are but our thinking gets in the way. Because the dogmatic image/definition of what a God is written about as I understand it, seems to need invited in. And I feel a real higher power can't come from the outside...it should already be.
The first idea in the mind of God was Christ.
Now that's a statement to open a BIG can of worms!
What was there before idea?
Does this man believe in universal salvation?
I believe so, it seems that way from some of his books. Dont quote me though
Robert Kendall we don’t find God. God finds us and found us at birth. No matter how we try we can’t run from God’s Grace!
@@ronbaer5185 perfectly said!!
There are no monks or church buildings in my King James Bible book of the Acts of the Apostles. Almighty God does not dwell in temples made with hands. Temple worship and sacrifice, along with the priesthood, were completely abolished by the Lord Jesus Christ at Calvary. Hebrews chapters 7-10 KJV. So what are you talking about ?
return to fasting