Chris Alhanouch Dust lights on the rear are a must when running in a group. I speak from experience. Luckily, the guy behind me stopped before major damage occurred; he hit my trailer hitch.
Teo P a solid front axle never rides as smooth as and independent front suspension. Solid is stronger than cvt axles though. The Ram has way more ground clearance too which makes it less smooth. The Ram would out craw the Ford.
@@samsonreynolds3728 True, it's also how dampened the shocks are, and weight of the vehicle. I don't know about crawling though, the Ram looks cumbersome and rigid, the Raptor agile. Cheers 👍
The Raptor driver was driving like a nut sending mud in the power wagon windshield like a 5 years old ! Don't ask yourself why the the ram was driving scared !
1badpete999 well he says it all when he says “ Thats what nice about a truck like this, that we are not exceeding the limits or even coming close to them” Then what is the point of buying a Power Wagon if your not going to use it to its full potential? Just get a basic ram 1500
If Ram invested more money in the Rebel it could easily compete with the Raptor. Interior wise it’s already there, and engine options, well nothing beats a Hemi. But you can’t compare a $45K msrp to a $75K msrp. One thing I’ve always wanted to see out of the Rebel is a wider body like the Raptors. If the Rebel has that wider stance and better suspension I don’t see how the Raptor would be better other than by name honestly.
@@enigma9789 which is why you never compare or test these two trucks together. I have a Power Wagon myself and would never race it, that truck is designed more for work and play in the Rocky trails the latter is a 1/2-ton built for high speed desert run and a little bit of trail fun.
I traded my Raptor for my Power Wagon, I thought I would miss the Raptor but I absolutely have no regrets. I was rarely able to take my Raptor to a location to do Baja stuff and it had a hard time fitting down roads in the mountains where I live. The Power Wagon fits and climbs better, plus it seats 6 like I needed and does fine in the dunes when we go, if I lived by the dunes then the Raptor would have made sense but for me, Power Wagon is better.
I really enjoy watching the comparison videos but feel this was lop sided a bit in favor of the raptor. Both trucks are excellent, well engineered, and high quality. Both do the specific/specialty job they were designed for and set the bar HIGH for the rest of the competition. I mean they've done a lot of innovative things, r and d, and simply have millions of miles of proven accomplishments to back both trucks. Ford and Ram are the top two factory off road contenders hands down. But... I am waiting for my brand new custom ordered red 2019 power wagon to arrive in the next few weeks. More traditional off roading suites my needs more so than high speed baja racing. Although the Raptors are pretty dang cool.
C'mon boys where was the harder terrain? You basically raced through sand which is all the Raptor excels at. And go easy on the staged dialogue, it's cringe AF
Loved the video - looked like a lot of fun. I would probably go with the Raptor just based on handling high speeds vs. terrain as well as preference of the Ford looks and interior, but both off-road trucks look great to me. That Ram ipad looking dash doesn't quite do it for me though.
i just wish the raptor had the towing capacity. We bought a trailer to do a year on the road and are in the process of buying a truck. raptor would be nearly maxed out towing our little 26 foot trailer. Power wagon would handle it no problem. If the raptor could tow 10k it would be a no brainer for anyone.
@@georgefunes4535 yes cheap. Like my buddy's 2019 raptor has already had its GM made 10 speed transmission replaced, the transfer case replaced and the differential. Fucking trash!
I also took delivery of a 2019 Power Wagon fully loaded after test driving 8 trucks to include the loaded Raptor, which was just over $70K. After extensive test drives the Power Wagon set itself apart with all it's features and the amazing new interior! I have already taken it off road just outside Seattle, and even used the winch, and I cannot begin to describe the awesomeness of the Power Wagon!
@@MrLuckycentury Ours does exceptionally well in the back country. We have taken ours in some pretty risky shit like traversing a glaciated creek. Alaska throws some pretty crazy shit at ya and so far the Power Wagon has not failed.
Wood Heat ,,,,GM transmission? Aaah wrong,,it’s Chev who is using the Ford designed 10 speed transmission. Hooo,,,,and enjoy your Mexican made Italian pickup.
Thatsl sierra at4 is real nice and powerful but you are right. GM interiors will never compare because they will mever wake up. But you could easily throw that at4 in this video
@@steezymk8815 Me too I'm done with GM and their incompetence! All they can give us is the 6.2...that's it?! And the design of their trucks is if 2 different people design both front and rear.
I need to upgrade my 2500 to the power wagon suspension. If I were to take mine on a road like that I’d have a concussion from hitting my head on the roof.
Carlos says why would you want to TOW a toy when your truck is the Toy. I would think many people might be towing a trailer to go camping off road. Am I not thinking straight?
If you pay 90K Canadian dollars for a Raptor it should tow much more, and the miniature center console display like you see in cheap korean cars imports ! Lets just say the raptor is still ahead but with the new 2018-2019 Ram they are getting close to the ford bumper, Ford should redesign their inside !
I take it that ground clearance was measured in the middle of the vehicle. Thus being the max ground clearance and not minimum ground clearance measured from the lowest hanging part which is typically the rear diff.
Judging by the way the RAM was shaking when driving on the moguls, to me this review was like comparing a light weight fighter with a heavy weight one, in fact I'm very surprise the RAM made it back in one piece!
Ummmmm... I have a 2018 ram power wagon and it takes forever to get the differentials locked. Also you have to be in 4 low for them to engage. Did they change something here because you said it had to be in 4 high and while you were engaging the lockers you were going pretty fast.
So much more off roading to be done. Sand dunes and deep snow. I use my power wagon to pull my toyhauler into the beach sand dunes. Where the lockers help a bunch.
why when comparing the raptor do they always mention the raptor not having a front locking diff but always fail to mention it does have a front torsen limited slip diff which is not far off from a locking diff in capabilities?
I had a raptor in my comment is not fast enough! So I traded it in and eventually went for a 2019 Ford super crew Roush with the 5.0 supercharged motor and now that brought the fun back
I'd prefer the raptor because of it's blue recaro seats and the ford performance blue exterior inside out and it is faster than the power wagon when it is set to baja mode!
Without taking a single thing away from the Ram, you guys weren't quite honest about the Raptor you tested having a front Torsen mechanical limited slip that works VERY well.... And the Torsen can be ordered as a stand alone option for only about $450 in the lower option groups.I agree with others in hoping to see more trail crawling...The Ram would finally outdo the Raptor as the rock crawling got more intense, but with the front LSD diff you and maybe some viewers would be surprised how well the Raptor would do...that is if you can get the oversized F150 to fit down some slimmer trails!...Full disclosure: I own a 18' Raptor but think the Ram is in a class of its own in the conventional 4wd full size truck market..and of course a class leading interior...Thank for the video guys! :)
BY THE WAY, why no jump comparisons???? Just saying! The Raptor is in a class of its own! No comparison! ANY truck can be a work truck! Whoopie doodoo!
Loved the video. Used to be partial to the raptor and still love it but got me a 2019 Ram 1500 limited so it would be a tough call but Power Wagon by a nose. BUT the RAM Rebel TRX!!! Game over!!!
Wait til the ram rebel TRX comes out, a ram raptor with king shocks and a hellcat motor. I’d still rather have a PW, wish they offered a cummins powered PW. I bought a 2016 cummins and put some 37’s, a Thuren suspension setup and ARB lockers next. Will be what the PW should have been from the factory
It's not a great video. If you understand truck classes this isn't meant to happen. That Power Wagon belongs to a higher tier while the Raptor is a lower tier for their weight ratings. As always I'm fond of people comparing apples to oranges.
@@1234567890ZETA LMAO - "this isn't meant to happen" - are you joking? Who gives a crap about tiers. Enjoy a video even if pits an apple against an orange. It might be fun to watch if you stop with the "this can't be happening" mentality. Just because you spent all your money on a Power Wagon and can't stand to watch it be compared with other trucks, don't hate on them. You should rethink saying videos are not good when you look at your own Power Wagon and Lego videos.
Unless its changed for 2019, my 2016 PW can use the lockers in low range only. and I know this is just a grab and go review comparison, but for things like washboarding and anything on the trail, I air my tires down to 30 PSI when on dirt, the PW has special rims to resist bead disengagement(not bead locks) this helps TREMENDOUSLY with the whoops and washboards, since the factory tires are an HD light truck tire they use a pressure thats typically good for roads but not for off road.
On two occasions I have actually seen the Raptor be better than the Powerwagon crawling up steep grades in test drives. It had the testers a bit confused. The Raptor diff can be locked up front as well by depressing the brakes which is a feature of the torsen diff. The raptors suspension gives it more bite when climbing and having no diff hanging down up front allows it to get through mud better as well. It also has very good articulation but not as good as Power wagon. So the Power wagon is really only better at 1 aspect off road and even then not by much. 9 out 10 scenarios have the Raptor being superior. Unless you count the winch. And then there is the work ability which is far and away superior in the Wagon. If just off roading get a Raptor, if you want more than a toy get a Wagon
Falcon 4917 I’ve heard the ride is a lot better in the Raptor on the road than the Power Wagon as well which makes a big difference , besides the fact that the Raptor retains its value better. I drive a 2016 Rebel and was hoping to upgrade to a 2020 Rebel (when the time comes) but for $150 more per month I can have a Raptor which won’t depreciate as poorly.
@@mjg6377 yeah forgot about ride quality. Depreciation is a big factor as well. I agree. The Raptor truly is a standalone when it comes to trucks and not all that many people need 3/4 ton capabilities
@@Falcon-mc5fs If you play in areas with rocks/off camber scenarios the Power Wagon will keep going where as the Raptor will stop. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the Gen 2 Raptor having a lockable front. Go try doing an off camber obstacle climb, the front will one wheelie peely all day no matter what you do with your brake pedal.
@@WilliamStewart1 no the one wheel peele won't happen if you depress the brake and throttle at the same time. It is a lock that is used only on torsen diffs. Even the gen 1 had the feature. The Hummer H1 has the same feature. There is a group in Arizona that runs raptors in rock crawling tours. The only true advantage off road for the power wagon is articulation.
Carlos Lago Yea but the Power Wagon is more like a heavy duty Jeep truck. It’s more at home crawling over rough terrain than blasting through the desert.
So is it safe to say that Ford has better off roading trucks across the board ( F150 FX4 package). I'm asking cause I'm looking at the FX4 or Tundra TRD Off-road or Pro
I traded in my 2018 lifted Power Wagon for the 2019 Raptor they are very different, I always been a Ram truck owner never owned a Ford just sorry i waited so long
I thought the PW was in it's on category ya know? Maybe the Rebel and Raptor are a better comparison idk... Guess I will be trying out Ford...unless Toyota Tundra TRD gives me a better deal.
They have to give a better deal, my Raptor is n a class by it self n it is the lowest trim level, n I’ve never drove a more enjoyable truck. Rams interer can not b beat, but that’s all. I would not even consider a new trd , that’s just me
Assuming it was the washed out course that foiled this test, yet still it appears there were opportunities in the area to show some more technical terrain or off road trails to test the limits of what these types of trucks are capable of and perhaps reach their limits. What you showed was a walk in the park for either truck, barely scratching the surface of their respective capabilities. It still managed to be a fun video to watch however.
This test did not put the Raptor and Power Wagon in tests that weren't heavily in favor of Raptor performance advantages. I love both trucks, but I put my money on a new 2018 Power Wagon last July and have never been so happy with a truck. 12 months and 30k miles and I do not have a single thing I don't like. This coming from a guy who likes Ford products and drove them exclusively for 34 years.
How can we get to see 5Liter challenge/drag-race between; 2020 GMC Sierra 5.3/10speed, 2020 Ford &150 5.0/10speed, 2020 Ram 5.7, 2020 Nissan Titan 5.7, 2020 Toyota Tundra 5.6, 2020 Chevy Silverado 5.3/10speed
No contest for me: Carlos running the Raptor down the washboard road sealed it for me--he was relaxed and having too much fun. The poor guy in the power wagon looked a bit frazzled, and it sounded like someone was beating on his chest while he talked. Love the power wagon, but give me the Raptor please.
If you want to know the real world off road difference between those two, listen to the segment at 11:40 where the guy in the Power Wagon's voice is trembling as he bounces off the rocks, immediately followed buy the guy in the Raptor saying "it's bumpy" over (presumably) the same road and he's not being jostled around at all.
I liked the colume shifter as well, but to be fair they where notorious for problems, and I havent heard about any problems with the dial so far, I think the tradesman power wagon still offers the colume shifter.
SKULL0FD3ATH not any more. If you get an 8 speed you get a dial. Only 6 speeds have the column. The column shifter doesn’t work with the zf8. I would rather have the bad ass 8 and a dial imo.
Samson Reynolds same I would like both as well, was hoping they would have the dial was only a option, but car journalists bitch constantly how vehicles need more tech and imho I think we need less of it, because if we keep going this route every single vehicle is going to rely on tech like the damn shitty land rovers.
The other day I saw a Ford Raptor cruising on the Autobahn! That thing is huge! No wonder why they say “Murica” back in the USA 🇺🇸
Ma in germania o qui in Italia?
Andrea Era in Germania.
@@Leo-bz8kg Eh li sono appassionati di auto americane , li ho visto un convoglio di 4 f-350 con carrello dietro :)
I'm American, 70. That's in the south where boys are boys and sisters are scared.
Mike Btrfld Scared of their brothers big dick
6:06 Carlos hit the raptors so hard that tv screen even blacked out 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Poor guy in the ram had zeeeerooo confidence!!
And know how
Two different animals. But you have to admit for being a heavier truck the power wagon can still keep up
JR I don’t think it really could if this was a real Baja race lol
Realistically what are the odds of needing to race in the sand lol. For real work use it serves its purpose and so does the raptor.!
matt I don't know that raptor was all over.
Zachary Hart facts the raptor was sideways coming outta the puddles and the power wagon almost hit em
Chris Alhanouch Dust lights on the rear are a must when running in a group. I speak from experience. Luckily, the guy behind me stopped before major damage occurred; he hit my trailer hitch.
Need a better driver in the power wagon disable the traction control and it does great donuts
Yeah the guy in the power wagon has no clue what’s going on. He was lookin scared and worried haha
you guys needed to switch trucks for a while.
Have had my Gen2 Raptor since Feb. 2017 and have put over 60 K miles on it...still puts a smile on my face everyday :)
The sheer difference in how the Ford absorbs the terrain at both high and low speeds, is unbelievable
Teo P a solid front axle never rides as smooth as and independent front suspension. Solid is stronger than cvt axles though. The Ram has way more ground clearance too which makes it less smooth. The Ram would out craw the Ford.
@@samsonreynolds3728
True, it's also how dampened the shocks are, and weight of the vehicle.
I don't know about crawling though, the Ram looks cumbersome and rigid, the Raptor agile.
Cheers 👍
Teo P Ram has disconnecting sway bars a lot more ground clearance a wench among other things
Teo P going fast has nothing to do with off road capability. If you try to be quick and agile over big rocks you’re going to break a lot of stuff.
@@samsonreynolds3728
Aye, fair enough.
It is built for Baja style offroading after all. 👍
If dealers weren't asking $10k over MSRP I'd get the raptor but next tax season it's the power wagon for me
I hope you enjoy the oil change on that Bugatta: the dealers charge $17,0000 to do it.
You could get $5,000 off on the 2019 Raptor if you come to Big Star Ford in Pearland Texas.
Power Wagon all day. You can get a tradesmen trim level with the power wagon package for way less that 60k.
I think you need a different person driving the Power Wagon, that was straight grandpa. Worried about everything lol
The Raptor driver was driving like a nut sending mud in the power wagon windshield like a 5 years old ! Don't ask yourself why the the ram was driving scared !
1badpete999 well he says it all when he says “ Thats what nice about a truck like this, that we are not exceeding the limits or even coming close to them”
Then what is the point of buying a Power Wagon if your not going to use it to its full potential? Just get a basic ram 1500
Don't say he was worried.. he was so caring about the car he's driving
If Ram invested more money in the Rebel it could easily compete with the Raptor. Interior wise it’s already there, and engine options, well nothing beats a Hemi. But you can’t compare a $45K msrp to a $75K msrp.
One thing I’ve always wanted to see out of the Rebel is a wider body like the Raptors. If the Rebel has that wider stance and better suspension I don’t see how the Raptor would be better other than by name honestly.
Sorry but the ram is higher than 45,000 starting price.
I took a rented 2016 Buick Regal on trails in Colorado and New Mexico tougher than these trails. Denver to Taos over the mountains.
😂
My 2000 Dakota could have done those trails.....
The raptor is in its terrain right now, and yet the power wagon is still keeping up, thats impressive!
uh no. the guys were staying together. the Raptor would have been miles ahead if they were going all out.
@@enigma9789 which is why you never compare or test these two trucks together. I have a Power Wagon myself and would never race it, that truck is designed more for work and play in the Rocky trails the latter is a 1/2-ton built for high speed desert run and a little bit of trail fun.
enigma9789 the raptor lost control every time it came out of a puddle. Rewatch the video.
I traded my Raptor for my Power Wagon, I thought I would miss the Raptor but I absolutely have no regrets. I was rarely able to take my Raptor to a location to do Baja stuff and it had a hard time fitting down roads in the mountains where I live. The Power Wagon fits and climbs better, plus it seats 6 like I needed and does fine in the dunes when we go, if I lived by the dunes then the Raptor would have made sense but for me, Power Wagon is better.
The Power Wagon looks like a freight train plowing through the mud.
Power wagon don't care
@@PankajMohan
honey badger
I would take either one
I agree 100% with that
I would have to say the power wagon is better at slow rock climbing like Moab
carli makes a spring shock combo that lets it go as fast and smooth as the raptor if not better
I really enjoy watching the comparison videos but feel this was lop sided a bit in favor of the raptor. Both trucks are excellent, well engineered, and high quality. Both do the specific/specialty job they were designed for and set the bar HIGH for the rest of the competition. I mean they've done a lot of innovative things, r and d, and simply have millions of miles of proven accomplishments to back both trucks. Ford and Ram are the top two factory off road contenders hands down. But... I am waiting for my brand new custom ordered red 2019 power wagon to arrive in the next few weeks. More traditional off roading suites my needs more so than high speed baja racing. Although the Raptors are pretty dang cool.
I have a ram 2500 with 37s and it's a beast in the desert
C'mon boys where was the harder terrain? You basically raced through sand which is all the Raptor excels at. And go easy on the staged dialogue, it's cringe AF
"The rain washed out the trail we were going to take" uh , that IS THE trail you should now definitely take ! 😏
An aspect of the Power Wagon I like is the front bench seat, cuz now and then when you're off-roading, you need to get out the other side...
Yes, bucket seats are for mustang's bench seat let's the girlfriend slide over next to you.
Top two trucks right now
the raptor is good looking
On the outside only because the inside with ford small display console looks like a Hyundai display !
NO, is perfect looking. love it
And the power wagon has electronic controlled swap bar disconnect
Loved the video - looked like a lot of fun. I would probably go with the Raptor just based on handling high speeds vs. terrain as well as preference of the Ford looks and interior, but both off-road trucks look great to me. That Ram ipad looking dash doesn't quite do it for me though.
i just wish the raptor had the towing capacity. We bought a trailer to do a year on the road and are in the process of buying a truck. raptor would be nearly maxed out towing our little 26 foot trailer. Power wagon would handle it no problem. If the raptor could tow 10k it would be a no brainer for anyone.
Andrew Lentz no brainer for me would be the powerwagen.
Where was this filmed? I want to take my truck out these roads
Red Rock Canyon in CA.
@@Lena-vq9fo Awesome! Thanks! 🤙
Power wagon is more like, work during the week and play in the mud on the weekends
Robert De La Rosa yup. Raptor is more like play in the mud during the week and do the same on the weekends😂😂😂 I love this kind of truck
Just bought a 2019 Power Wagon yesterday. Checked out the Raptor but the wife and I wanted a truck not a Tonka toy. The Raptor felt cheap.
You thought a Raptor felt "cheap"?
I don't think you are using the right word...
@@georgefunes4535 yes cheap. Like my buddy's 2019 raptor has already had its GM made 10 speed transmission replaced, the transfer case replaced and the differential. Fucking trash!
I also took delivery of a 2019 Power Wagon fully loaded after test driving 8 trucks to include the loaded Raptor, which was just over $70K. After extensive test drives the Power Wagon set itself apart with all it's features and the amazing new interior! I have already taken it off road just outside Seattle, and even used the winch, and I cannot begin to describe the awesomeness of the Power Wagon!
@@MrLuckycentury Ours does exceptionally well in the back country. We have taken ours in some pretty risky shit like traversing a glaciated creek. Alaska throws some pretty crazy shit at ya and so far the Power Wagon has not failed.
Wood Heat ,,,,GM transmission? Aaah wrong,,it’s Chev who is using the Ford designed 10 speed transmission.
Hooo,,,,and enjoy your Mexican made Italian pickup.
Two great trucks 🥳You can’t go wrong either way . But you can go wrong if you get a Silverado or GMC lol 🤢🤮 😝
Ale Orozco that’s what I was going to say!
Thatsl sierra at4 is real nice and powerful but you are right. GM interiors will never compare because they will mever wake up. But you could easily throw that at4 in this video
Ed's Fortune you can’t afford a raptor or a powerwagon, I used to be a full chevy guy until the early 2000’s and I can safely say chevy is ass
@@steezymk8815 Me too I'm done with GM and their incompetence! All they can give us is the 6.2...that's it?! And the design of their trucks is if 2 different people design both front and rear.
Carlos Lago! I kept thinking what sounds so familiar with this review. Good to see you man.
Power Wagon every time! Can’t remember the the last time I needed to blast through the desert on my way to work. Practical over play in my book.
Fuel consumption ?
6:03 Did the raptors screen just take a dump on that bump?
For better immersion
power wagon ftw because bits capable of doing a lot of things specially on towing heavy trailers. Beautiful interior too.
I'd only take the Wagon if I had to work with it.
17:25 Hillary for Prison Info Wars sticker lololololol
I need to upgrade my 2500 to the power wagon suspension. If I were to take mine on a road like that I’d have a concussion from hitting my head on the roof.
no you get a carli kit run with raptor all day
Carlos says why would you want to TOW a toy when your truck is the Toy. I would think many people might be towing a trailer to go camping off road. Am I not thinking straight?
If you pay 90K Canadian dollars for a Raptor it should tow much more, and the miniature center console display like you see in cheap korean cars imports ! Lets just say the raptor is still ahead but with the new 2018-2019 Ram they are getting close to the ford bumper, Ford should redesign their inside !
rule of thumb you don't play with what got you there or you might stay there .......................................
Power Wagon don’t care!!!
Brian Djordjevic tfl reference
Over MSRP of course 😆
Brian Djordjevic don’t care
It does care if you don't know how to turn on the lockers. RTFM
@@k53847 It has a limited slip/locker combo. Still not nearly as good as when fully locked but still works surprisingly well.
I ready for that trx ram to get here
That's gonna be a Raptor killer.
I own a Gen Raptor , but you just might be right...
Darius Hope the trx will be the next monster to beat! If Ram stays true to the concept that is.... they like to bait and switch.
Word! Can’t wait
Woah. Close call @6:45 .
I take it that ground clearance was measured in the middle of the vehicle. Thus being the max ground clearance and not minimum ground clearance measured from the lowest hanging part which is typically the rear diff.
It should be the minimum aka rear diff or rear struts.
Ground clearance is always measured at the lowest hanging point.
@@nicholassmith7048 Good
Judging by the way the RAM was shaking when driving on the moguls, to me this review was like comparing a light weight fighter with a heavy weight one, in fact I'm very surprise the RAM made it back in one piece!
Happy Car Reviews it’s a heavy duty truck. Way stronger than a half ton.
PW isn’t made for high speed desert running. It’s made to go over obstacles and crawl over harsh terrain like the Wrangler.
Oddly enough the power wagon is less expensive than a rubicon because of the 0% financing offered.
Ummmmm... I have a 2018 ram power wagon and it takes forever to get the differentials locked. Also you have to be in 4 low for them to engage. Did they change something here because you said it had to be in 4 high and while you were engaging the lockers you were going pretty fast.
Why would you want lockers when going fast? The lockers are for helping you rock crawl and what no.
I really love that Ram
So much more off roading to be done. Sand dunes and deep snow. I use my power wagon to pull my toyhauler into the beach sand dunes. Where the lockers help a bunch.
why when comparing the raptor do they always mention the raptor not having a front locking diff but always fail to mention it does have a front torsen limited slip diff which is not far off from a locking diff in capabilities?
Love the Raptor all around except towing. Great comparison/review video, Carlos.
6:45 That power wagon was about to plow through that whimpy raptor!
💪
They should compare the Ford Super Duty Tremor against the Ram Power Wagon.
Power wagon destroys the tremor
you guys need a better communication system.
Yeah, those talkies don't really go with driving off-road or just driving.
@@joshmiller1640 both hands on the wheel at all times.lol.
One power wagon please
I had a raptor in my comment is not fast enough! So I traded it in and eventually went for a 2019 Ford super crew Roush with the 5.0 supercharged motor and now that brought the fun back
I'd prefer the raptor because of it's blue recaro seats and the ford performance blue exterior inside out and it is faster than the power wagon when it is set to baja mode!
Vincent Vaughan of course, it’s a no brainer.
Besides a steep buy-in, fuel consumption's likely to clean your clock...
you dont buy these trucks for fuel mileage
Without taking a single thing away from the Ram, you guys weren't quite honest about the Raptor you tested having a front Torsen mechanical limited slip that works VERY well.... And the Torsen can be ordered as a stand alone option for only about $450 in the lower option groups.I agree with others in hoping to see more trail crawling...The Ram would finally outdo the Raptor as the rock crawling got more intense, but with the front LSD diff you and maybe some viewers would be surprised how well the Raptor would do...that is if you can get the oversized F150 to fit down some slimmer trails!...Full disclosure: I own a 18' Raptor but think the Ram is in a class of its own in the conventional 4wd full size truck market..and of course a class leading interior...Thank for the video guys! :)
Awesome review
BY THE WAY, why no jump comparisons???? Just saying! The Raptor is in a class of its own! No comparison! ANY truck can be a work truck! Whoopie doodoo!
Thank u. It hard to find video where u see these big rigs getting trashed. Awesome.
Loved the video. Used to be partial to the raptor and still love it but got me a 2019 Ram 1500 limited so it would be a tough call but Power Wagon by a nose. BUT the RAM Rebel TRX!!! Game over!!!
Ram Rebel trx vs Shelby Baja Raptor.
Very fun video to watch! 👍
Wait til the ram rebel TRX comes out, a ram raptor with king shocks and a hellcat motor. I’d still rather have a PW, wish they offered a cummins powered PW. I bought a 2016 cummins and put some 37’s, a Thuren suspension setup and ARB lockers next. Will be what the PW should have been from the factory
…and way too heavy!
My wife and I Test drove the ram while the interior was downright gorgeous it just didn’t get our blood pumping.
Great video. Solid comparison.
Did you have a preference for which truck you would want to own?
Batman would buy both to make his own BatTruck
It's not a great video. If you understand truck classes this isn't meant to happen. That Power Wagon belongs to a higher tier while the Raptor is a lower tier for their weight ratings. As always I'm fond of people comparing apples to oranges.
They should have done some rock crawling like the power wagon is made for.
@@1234567890ZETA LMAO - "this isn't meant to happen" - are you joking? Who gives a crap about tiers. Enjoy a video even if pits an apple against an orange. It might be fun to watch if you stop with the "this can't be happening" mentality. Just because you spent all your money on a Power Wagon and can't stand to watch it be compared with other trucks, don't hate on them. You should rethink saying videos are not good when you look at your own Power Wagon and Lego videos.
Great content guys !
Unless its changed for 2019, my 2016 PW can use the lockers in low range only. and I know this is just a grab and go review comparison, but for things like washboarding and anything on the trail, I air my tires down to 30 PSI when on dirt, the PW has special rims to resist bead disengagement(not bead locks) this helps TREMENDOUSLY with the whoops and washboards, since the factory tires are an HD light truck tire they use a pressure thats typically good for roads but not for off road.
More videos like this please.
One of the best off road tests I’ve ever watched! Well done Guys
Awesome! I love my Ram but I still haven’t seen a video where the Raptor can’t follow the Power Wagon.
On two occasions I have actually seen the Raptor be better than the Powerwagon crawling up steep grades in test drives. It had the testers a bit confused. The Raptor diff can be locked up front as well by depressing the brakes which is a feature of the torsen diff. The raptors suspension gives it more bite when climbing and having no diff hanging down up front allows it to get through mud better as well. It also has very good articulation but not as good as Power wagon. So the Power wagon is really only better at 1 aspect off road and even then not by much. 9 out 10 scenarios have the Raptor being superior. Unless you count the winch. And then there is the work ability which is far and away superior in the Wagon. If just off roading get a Raptor, if you want more than a toy get a Wagon
Falcon 4917 I’ve heard the ride is a lot better in the Raptor on the road than the Power Wagon as well which makes a big difference , besides the fact that the Raptor retains its value better.
I drive a 2016 Rebel and was hoping to upgrade to a 2020 Rebel (when the time comes) but for $150 more per month I can have a Raptor which won’t depreciate as poorly.
@@mjg6377 yeah forgot about ride quality. Depreciation is a big factor as well. I agree. The Raptor truly is a standalone when it comes to trucks and not all that many people need 3/4 ton capabilities
@@Falcon-mc5fs If you play in areas with rocks/off camber scenarios the Power Wagon will keep going where as the Raptor will stop. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the Gen 2 Raptor having a lockable front. Go try doing an off camber obstacle climb, the front will one wheelie peely all day no matter what you do with your brake pedal.
@@WilliamStewart1 no the one wheel peele won't happen if you depress the brake and throttle at the same time. It is a lock that is used only on torsen diffs. Even the gen 1 had the feature. The Hummer H1 has the same feature. There is a group in Arizona that runs raptors in rock crawling tours. The only true advantage off road for the power wagon is articulation.
Power wagon hands down
2 badass trucks I think good video guy's
What location did they go off-roading?
You can’t get a 60k raptor where I’m from, unless it’s stripped down
Chris McLaughlin right they're 80k+ here in Ohio
Wouldn’t the Ram Rebel be a better match up?
Yup!
Rebel is closer to F-150 FX4 than Raptor
Carlos Lago Yea but the Power Wagon is more like a heavy duty Jeep truck.
It’s more at home crawling over rough terrain than blasting through the desert.
So is it safe to say that Ford has better off roading trucks across the board ( F150 FX4 package). I'm asking cause I'm looking at the FX4 or Tundra TRD Off-road or Pro
I traded in my 2018 lifted Power Wagon for the 2019 Raptor they are very different, I always been a Ram truck owner never owned a Ford just sorry i waited so long
I thought the PW was in it's on category ya know? Maybe the Rebel and Raptor are a better comparison idk... Guess I will be trying out Ford...unless Toyota Tundra TRD gives me a better deal.
They have to give a better deal, my Raptor is n a class by it self n it is the lowest trim level, n I’ve never drove a more enjoyable truck. Rams interer can not b beat, but that’s all. I would not even consider a new trd , that’s just me
@@olered7760 how you loving your raptor or did you trade it in.
@@MR_FN509 I’m very happy with the performance n the truck is alot like a sports car its handled everything thats been thorn at it
@@olered7760 awesome do you have a gen 2 raptor if so what year and mechanical issues?
Raptor vs. Rivian. It's coming and it sounds like a great movie. I'm making popcorn...
Damn I wish we had roads like that in Ohio
I'm disappointed to not see anything such as likes, dislikes, pros, and cons, followed by a final verdict.
Assuming it was the washed out course that foiled this test, yet still it appears there were opportunities in the area to show some more technical terrain or off road trails to test the limits of what these types of trucks are capable of and perhaps reach their limits. What you showed was a walk in the park for either truck, barely scratching the surface of their respective capabilities. It still managed to be a fun video to watch however.
Very nice comparo Edmunds! Very high quality vid!
From the start of the video I knew who they were gonna putt on top right away. I love the raptor but these Two different trucks and both are bad ass
Good to see Carlos again!
This test did not put the Raptor and Power Wagon in tests that weren't heavily in favor of Raptor performance advantages.
I love both trucks, but I put my money on a new 2018 Power Wagon last July and have never been so happy with a truck. 12 months and 30k miles and I do not have a single thing I don't like. This coming from a guy who likes Ford products and drove them exclusively for 34 years.
Why did he try donuts with the rear locked on the Power Wagon... Does donuts just fine in 2wd..
Anyone know where in CA they were at?
EDIT: NVM, figured it out @ 8:50
How can we get to see 5Liter challenge/drag-race between;
2020 GMC Sierra 5.3/10speed,
2020 Ford &150 5.0/10speed,
2020 Ram 5.7,
2020 Nissan Titan 5.7,
2020 Toyota Tundra 5.6,
2020 Chevy Silverado 5.3/10speed
No contest for me: Carlos running the Raptor down the washboard road sealed it for me--he was relaxed and having too much fun. The poor guy in the power wagon looked a bit frazzled, and it sounded like someone was beating on his chest while he talked. Love the power wagon, but give me the Raptor please.
Need a power wagon now
wow the raptor made everything look so easy. Technology is great. Thanks for a very entertaining video
Get ready for the new ram power wagon little brother name ram rebel Trx which will compete with the raptor.
Damian Gutierrez that can’t come any sooner.
that head unit of power wagon makes the raptor a 10yrs old tech
Every day truck powerwagon hands down. But for sheer fun and beating on the Raptor. But I would still rather the GMC AT4
I used to ge GM guy back in 2012.. but they're always late to the party in innovation & style.
@@callen7436 I completely agree. They haven't changed the overhauled interior really since early 2000's lol
If you want to know the real world off road difference between those two, listen to the segment at 11:40 where the guy in the Power Wagon's voice is trembling as he bounces off the rocks, immediately followed buy the guy in the Raptor saying "it's bumpy" over (presumably) the same road and he's not being jostled around at all.
"High school mode" lol
Raptor 😍😍😍😍👍
Power Wagon DON'T CARE! ❤
Great video 👍🏻
What possessed Ram to have a knob in lieu of a gear shifter?
Centredoorplugs Thornton I hate column shift. I always go one too far or too high. The dial is so easy. Just a flick of the wrist.
I liked the colume shifter as well, but to be fair they where notorious for problems, and I havent heard about any problems with the dial so far, I think the tradesman power wagon still offers the colume shifter.
SKULL0FD3ATH not any more. If you get an 8 speed you get a dial. Only 6 speeds have the column. The column shifter doesn’t work with the zf8. I would rather have the bad ass 8 and a dial imo.
Samson Reynolds same I would like both as well, was hoping they would have the dial was only a option, but car journalists bitch constantly how vehicles need more tech and imho I think we need less of it, because if we keep going this route every single vehicle is going to rely on tech like the damn shitty land rovers.
Only thing I can complain about with my new PW.