Can A Built E46 330d Beat An E92 M3 Around A Lap?
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The thing NEEDS an LSD and wider tires. Also a track that's not a kart course.
@@matik001ify Agreed
Kart Course?
Kart's only go to Curborough like 3 times a year, there are car events nearly every weekend. The lap records (Non of which are on this layout) are all set by single seaters ranging from 300-650bhp and 300+mm wide tyres.
@@alexgaskin8375 It was just a figure of speach. I didn't even know there were actual kart events. The lap difference could even be in the manual timing. It should be tested on a much bigger track.
Agreed! ✊
@falchulk yep, it's a type of racing called Sprinting, it works pretty much exactly like how Car Throttle are doing it, only with more professional timing gear.
Take it to the Nürbürgring
Not with him as a driver. You need a top driver on this track. Ask Sabine Schmitz if she will do it. NOBODY knows the track better than she does.
And it's comparable to other cars afterwards.
*Nürburgring
@@MrNickelbrille he means for having fun, not setting a lap time..
I took my e46 325Ci sport auto round the ring, and it was fun, then drove back home, he will do fine.
Anyone up for a diesel estate arms race on the ring? ..... asking for a friend 😂😂😂
"That's incredible how much time he saved without a helmet" 😂😂😂
Nissen Herrera weight reduction broh
If he had removed his clothes he would be faster cause weight reduction bruh!!!!
@@chonkmansupreme7114 at this point he might as well just remove his kidneys and sell them to buy more weight reduction
Unfortunately, the car is heavily compromised because they don't sell an LSDs in the Car Throttle shop.
Yet.... !
@@ak47gat1 exactly
I wouldn't want to drive any car after LSD. Slippery subject.
@Gareth I didn't know BMW's had their own youtube channels...does Colin have one too?
doesnt the 30D come stock with LSD? i know the E36 25D did.....
My friend you need a new diff, that open boy isn’t cutting it
Put limited slip differential!
Thank u someone finally someone who speaks my kind of language I agree with u
Would be intresting to see the difference it makes
What diff?
THIS! an lsd is the only thing that's gonna help it now, you could see it on the hairpin section when he smashes the throttle it's just one tire fire. LSD would allow him to put that power down properly after that turn and get up to speed faster, which could save considerable time from the lap.
weight reduction wouldnt hurt either.
0:58
It’s a good thing they got that big fan to dry off the track
If only the website sold LSD's for this car,,,,,
Look at FTWL motorsport, they modify stock E46 differential using limited slip parts from E36 328i diff. ;)
tuningshopbg.com/235.html
Here there is... Europe delivery!
It costs about the same as a used e46. Thats why we weld it.
yeah, they could shave off another second.
I get you bro,this car is literally an ad for what they sell on the website.
LSD is must have! All this power and 1 wheel drive ;)
1.5
WILL HAPPILY COME BACK FOR A REMATCH ❤️ What a series though, amazing start to end (especially that tyre episode), great work as ever
Better get them on better tyres. IMO, on that tight track, would make way more difference than just a power upgrade
You’ll need to bring something else then 😉
You better bring a better Timer...
hey tyre review guy, what were the tire widths stock and of the new nankangs fitted?
@@nnn-pr3vr all in episode 3! (I can't remember)
It’s amazing how e46 holds up styling wise, both exterior and interior. BemV really nailed this generation 👌
OMG this was one of the best series u guyz have made. I really loved and looking forward to see more amazing content like this from u guyz. I remember the dayz when u made small skits in the starting and now u guyz have series’s which are just as amazing as the early days of this channel.
Daamn.. Beatin e92 m3 with diesel on chinese tires sounds good
Different driver, e92 had no abs and a laundry list of problems. The cars really aren't comparable
andrew rossnagel laundry list of problems?
I don't think he beat that m3, because m3 driver drove 3-4 laps on this track and Alex drove many many many times, so he improved his skill. If m3 driver has as much practice as Alex, he would improve the time.
Nickolas Berdzenishvili 100% agree
Nankangs NS-R2 tires might not be as refined as some other streetable track oriented tires, but they’re right up there with the best in terms of grip.
Test it on german autobahn 👌👌👌
Yes....
Its a pity but the car is far from being road legal in Germany.
Greetings from Stuttgart
@@quicknick1234 sadly.
@@quicknick1234 how is this illegal in Germany? In the US this is considered lightweight modding lmao people drive waaaaay more "racecar" cars on the streets all the time.
Saying “ German Autobahn” is like saying “backward reversing ” or “a round circle “.....
Fantastic series! Loved every episode and you won a new sub! Looking forward to the next one
Yesterday I had to say goodbye to my E46 316i, a rather emotional moment to send your first car away.
But to see Gareth here beating the M3‘s time, makes me happy and thanksful for all the E46 time I had :)
Keep it up Alex (and team). I love your videos 👍
You guys really should invest into a new timing system I mean really? A phone and a radio? And you beat that bmw by 0.1? That could be human error. don't get me wrong I loved he lexus and now the bmw but if in the future you could use some laser stuff that would make it so much better
^ THIS.
^^This
This
This lol .... although, it’s an 157k diesel estate guys 😂 .... do we really need lasers? 😎
So true, I think typical human reaction time is around 0.3s, even if its 0.3 across both start and stop, still equates to the chart showing improvements as mostly meaningless. I also noticed that in the tyre episode they adjusted the pressures, but never mentioned it again, given the difference it made (tyres were biggest improvement) you would think it would be important to carry this through.
I wonder how much time it would've picked up with a proper limited-slip diff. I know they make night-and-day differences in the Subaru STi when driving on ice/snow.
@dolboyeb93 yup they do
They also have to make the exhaust less restrictive.
This
2:45 *fast and furious intensifies*
What a fantastic series! Enjoyed every episode been fantastic viewing. Thanks car throttle great work
all that mapping has transformed Gareth in a kind of rolling coal BMW, hasn’t it?
but also, why not put in a LSD too? I think it might need one
Indeed, I am pretty sure it would make a great difference, especially in the start.
Was thinking the same thing! The open diff is killing his time but saving him at the same time.
I wonder if the turbo has more to give?
@@TheRealSmithFamily probably he's going to do it next year
LSD could introduce alot more oversteer and hurt his time but man it would up his driving game
That 330d looks like a sleeper
Not with those wheels. Completely gives it away.
Those wheels are absolutely vile
T. S nah it looks like a lowered life rim to me it would shock me looks like it’s low and slow.
lonewolf5460 no they don't fifteen52 wheels are high performance wheels
Alebone yeah but you know that. The average joe doesn’t and just sees an old station wagon with pretty wheels
Love it! Did anyone else nearly shed a tear of joy when they got in to the 36's?
Thank you for really fun series. More series like this :).
That was probably the best series I have ever seen on YT. You did what everyone wants to do. Well done boys. x
Check out Project Binky if you want to watch a crazy car build! Seriously an amazing series
Look at the channel "juicebox" its absolutely amazing
Try more laps on the E92 M3 I bet it will get a better time 😁
The guy did the laps in the summer when the track was at its warmest, I doubt it would get a better time now
He is in UK. In UK it's not so hot. It's cold and wet.
I think you’re missing the point guys, it’s a 157k diesel estate, I’m interested to learn what the overall cost was compared to an E9X M3 😏
Oh and by the way, the summer this year was bloody scorching!
lol, i passed the summer in UK and ok it was hot but nothing compared to the southern european countries, there the UV will cook you alive in summer
Being a numbers guy (analyst), this is by far one of the best and most helpful series. Same driver, course and machine. My only change would be the timer...lol (no disrespect intended)
This has been a great series. Thanks guys, keep up the good work.
Y’all been wrong all the time. The improvement is caused by those stickers.
Btw I think you can officially call it the M330d
Try 330d sport touring.
Guys, it's Garreth 330D
You do get m division diesels
I have a 325Ci sport auto, it's not an Msport
It's a G330D - G for Gareth.
When will the track go up on the Car Throttle™ shop?
You're right. He said "everything you see here". So, cameras, the people, the dyno garage, Volks technics, the car itself etc.
It's on Ebay now.
great series. well done!
cheers mate
This has been an awesome series and I can not wait to see your next build. Cheers!
can afford to tune car but still using phone to track lap time...
Exactly! And then timing it to a hundredth of a second🙈
That’s a very good point. How accurate is a man with an iPhone? Especially when you are going for tenth of seconds 🤷🏼♂️🤷🏼♂️
@Jacinth Gudetti Car throttle's one of the biggest car websites around at the moment they can definitely afford better than a guy with a phone.
@@DrewHughesMusic lol that is so true, cuz a normal human by default have around 200-300 ms response time for visual stimulus (just google it), so all these laps might actually be better or worse than what they stated (probably better). And the Iphone touch screen might have some response lag too.
2million subscribers:
Am i joke to u?
"Ask any racer, and real racer, it doesn't matter how much you win by, winning is winning" applies here :') But damn this thing needs an LSD, I bet that could've saved more time than coilovers.
not really as its so close it could be human error
Its not so much about winning as it is beating the other guy.
Mythbuster but they don't sell LSDs on the shop
You do realise that your traction control isn't fully turned off lol. If you hold down the tc button with your foot on the brake with the hand brake off the emergency brake light turns orange on the dash. When you apply the hand brake it goes red etc. When you do this it then means no abs, stability control, no tc, no computer adjustments. At current you've only got tc off with everything else engaged. Also the computer learns so if you always turn everything off and put Gareth into power mode eventually the car will already have switched everything off when you start him up ;) Gareth would be a completely different animal in power mode. Love your videos guys, keep em coming :) I have had a 330cd for about 12years now called Samantha and found this trick out many years back ;) your welcome
I would really want to see this competition in a longer track and with a right timing.
absolutely wanting to see Garreth on a nice open stretch of derestricted autobahn.
also if you painted the outer spokes/barrel matte gray, it would look like part of the tire from a distance and you'd be full sleeper-status, looking like a base model on 16" OEM-like wheels instead of 18" trendy aftermarket wheels
16's don't go on any 6 cylinder E46 the brakes are too big.
17s and up 👍
Are you still running an open diff? Especially with all that diesel torque you're just burning the inside tire every time you try to give it beans out of a corner... Weld that diff or throw in a LSD clutch pack and you'll probably pick up another half second in acceleration and a half second not having to wrestle with the backend snapping about every time you lose traction lol
i bet he will definitly do that in the next episodes.
SyariStudios He had a 4 paddle clutch installed when doing the turbo.
You don't want a welded diff for track use, it would only want to go sideways or straight forward with a welded diff...
Lsd\thorsen diff is what he needs
That's true! There is a lot of burning tires on corners!
I have a feeling in a less handling focused track you'd catch the M3 even more.
The M3 has a significant handling advantage and you have to really throttle down your speed to do those turns
Really good series, enjoyed every episode
*“its incredible how much time you saved without a helmet”*
racing tips 101
One of your best series. Fantastic results guys. Got to love the 330d ...
best Series sofa!!!! this Chanel allays makes amassing content, with out resorting to exotic car market. and i love that ! thx guys !
Hats off fella hats off you rinsed that track! Good man👍👍🍻
Real timing equipment would save .2 seconds.
Casey Weaver start and end where timed the same way. So the .2 lost was added at the end.
What he means is that is human reaction time, so that's how inaccurate using a stop watch is.
@@KXF41 actually no, the reaction time is measured by unexpected things, but on a road you can see a car coming
Bro they also hand timed the m3 lmao
Save 2s with both cars
Next time be sensible and go with the Michelin
OZ Superlegera with Michelin Cup2 Tyres would be so nice! 👌
You can really see how lose it gets when the tires heat up.
Also, the weight distribution is horrendous, they could pull the dash and put that weight in as ballast in the rear. That big diesel in the front is an anchor and it shows.
@@jttech44 True but a front spoiler and some Michelins and putting the rear seats back inside it'll be all good
massively enjoyed this project, eye of the tiger in that last lap! good job guys 👍
I'm so glad you did that, nice driiving alex
1:31 Shifts to neutral itself? :0
Holy shit
ghost shift
i've just bought a 320d and noticed the shifter wobbles a lot when driving. didn't realise they could do that though xD
Heavy jolts like that could make it happen, especially if your foot is off the accelerator. I've been there arkadaşim.
McLarenBMW It's not gonna go into first by it self. No way.
Ive been waiting on this! Great series guys😎
great series all around....awesome job guys...
MORE!!!!!
What a brilliant series, sending you all a huge thanks for making RUclips a better place.
The side by side shots are great
"It is mildly moist" Thats what she said! haha.. Loved it when Top Gear said it too.
Massive thanks for this series
This is my favourite series so far (then comes miles) but it has been great adventure !! Great vid ! Love you guys !!
Please fit a Quaife LSD, Straight Pipes and PS4S tyres, do a top speed run and then add NOS 😁
Why the fuck would you put spray in a turbo car? You just wanna destroy the engine?
Nova StrykerHD you must not know much about turbo diesels
Quaife lsd... Its torsen diff NOT lsd
I wonder what the diff attachment looks like.. A ford 8.8 center can take stupid punishment in stock form.. And a tru-trac ratcheting lsd is out for it, hell a lunchbox locker will do too..
The amount of power is phenomenal
Really enjoyed this series
I never liked watching your videos but this series has shown me your personality and I’ve learnt to love it
Got to love the E46, I maintain its best car BMW ever built. Great work guys been fun watching 👍
Y not e39?
Wow! Gareth wasn't the only thing reborn. So was the grass 9:48 - 10:20 😂
Brilliant series, really enjoyed watching this!
Congratulations!!! I love seeing success with emotion and hard work.
Are you going to make a second season? I'd like to see how far you can get with this car
Me too!
Alex in beast mode
Great series, boys.. Keep on!
Awesome series... Well done guys 👍👍
needs more diff as well
Tyres are the most effective performance mod - 8:58min
Next time try Nankang AR-1, 255/35/18 - on all 4 corners
Congrats to that amazing time and of course the whole series
Well done series!
Can't really compare you getting so many more laps and so much more practice on this map than the E92. He got what, 3? 5? You've had 100 probably.
I'm glad i am not the only one seeing this bullshit, like the show but how no one envolved with the show thinks car enthusiasts are going to swallow this? Tell you what ill bring up my E92 M3 and ill beat that 330D easy within 10 laps rather than the 100+ he did.
And lets use a proper timing device not your mate with an iphone...
FFS people. Get a life freaks
@@mariospanna8389 go hire the track and show us what you're made of!
@@mariospanna8389 you can also have my stage 3 jcw, I'd like to see how that fares XD.
Bloody spanners, the whole point of this episode was to beat the best time of the M3, not beat it equivalent to the number of laps each vehicle does.
Why do you follow CT, just piss off. Appreciate their hard work or go watch another series.
Mate I would love to see a top speed run.
That was some very impressive driving therr Alex! Well done!!!
This series has been amazing. Love it 💪🏽💪🏽
I don't mean to be negative...but do 150-200 laps in the e92 and I think the m3 will come out on top! Love this show either way!
R.I.P Cone, You will be missed.
Nice profile pic! Have a 240 yourself?
@@TTURBOVOLVO Yup! 2 actually :D
Great! I love 240's. I have an 85' 740 project car. How are your cars holding up?
@@TTURBOVOLVO One is a "real" '84 245 Turbo, currently under restoration. Other one is a regular GL
@@TTURBOVOLVO They are insanely fun to drive during winter :D
Congrats! I hope to see more on this car.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this! Great work!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
be nice to see what that you could do in the M3 now you have so much more experience. I suspect you would smash the 37 second mark.
"That's incredible how much time he saved without a helmet"
Great series as always, man!
This is a great comparo, and entertaining to watch!
Could you possibly take the 330d to santa pod on one of the 'run what you brung' days?
4:36, God opening his window cuz he has to keep an eye on you now
Awesome series!
Great series!
Get an LSD and some better tires, like Yokohama Advan Neova AD08Rs, which have pretty much Cup2 grip and are cheaper than PS4s
Best street tyre hands down
Take it to the Nürburgring next and while at it do a top speed run on the Autobahn... at night 👍
LOVING this series
Loved this build Carnt wait for the next one 👍
Next week on Carthrottle: BMW 330d vs. Nissan GT-R Track Battle Series
if the e92 had better tires and as many practice laps (in the region of 150 times alex has been round) the m3 would win...
also if you stripped the interior of the m3 it will make a big difference
No shit Sherlocks
You dont event need the tires, give the m3 the 50000000 laps Alex got it would be in the mid to low 36's
What the fuck is the point, he spent 10k on a 1k estate to beat a m3. Its all about sponsors and getting you hooked up to be stupid and drop 10g in a shit 500$ car
@@SaNdMaN3000 Its more fun building a car than buying a built one
Great series chaps!!
What a great series that was!
top speed run... on the way to the Nürburgring?
Same as standard they've not changed the gear ratios
Now it needs slicks and an LSD diff..
dandel351 lmao if it had slicks, I wouldn't turn? It isn't a drag car
Umm.. look under most race cars... they use slick tyres on all four corners of the car mate. I don't follow your answer.
dandel351 those are race radials. Slicks are meant for drag racing.
Look I think we got our wires crossed here. I never meant anything about Drag Racing. If I wanted you to fit drag racing stuff I would have suggested DRAG Slicks and skinnie's and dropping out that fancy IRS for a solid axle and a 4-link drag suspension...
What I meant was a set of track day slicks mounted on a separate set of rims you could fit when in circuit race mode. The 330d would make a crappy drag car anyway. All the best Alec!!
Higher profile tyres would be the biggest improvement in grip. Low profile tyres don't have much give in them and the road contact area isn't very good, which is why TopGear were going backwards when they were tuning the Renault Avantime.
Great series guys! Loved it!
Amazing series. Cant wait for the next