You know I never really quite think about the fact that Persephone didn't bother to get closer to the boss area so that she could have more time with her beloved Zagreus
@@jayayj5574 she even mentions it after one of your escapes, she stays there "away from the watch of Mount Olympus and away from the watch of the Underworld"
43:40 My favorite piece of dialogue in the game... "I'm sending you home." "No, you're going home, not me." Every player knows through trial what "Home" means to these characters... Such a powerful piece of speech
@@FredMaverik The Olympians drew lots to divide the realm, Hades ended up in hell. Ergo, the Olympians were the reason Hades wound up in the underworld.
I notice the interaction with Meg once you got back to house changed, usually she says if you pass her again you had better make it all the way to the surface does she not? THAT is a textbook example of accounting for all possibilities.
It seems her dualogue after successful run has bigger priority than other I guess. Like on these reddit posts where people use keepsakes for specific god but then there's Poseidon because it's some tutorial
thanks, but it requires good luck or to be pro in this game, I had luck. But hell mode is much harder so even luck didn't save me in most attempts I had recently Also I have no idea what videos I can do that would be interesting
Thanks for this, I just finished my first run but instead of talking to Hades at the end of it I gifted him nectar and I couldn't talk to him afterwards.
I've been trying to do this myself, had about 30 tries so far mostly favouring Dionysus attack+Pressure Points, but I'm gonna have to give Ares another go... And I didn't even realise you could get legendary boons! Athena's is so gooood. Well played to you!
It’s unreal how ridiculously useful Athena’s blessings are. I stg, if you can only choose one god to get blessings from, choose her. Projectiles really do suck in this game and her abilities completely remove it. One of the best dash abilities in the game too.
33:05 Thought they might have different dialogue here, you're not supposed to know about Persephone yet. They never accounted for someone beating this on the first run I guess.
Zagreus does know about Persephone at the start of the game! The sequence where you find the note is presented as a flashback! It's supposed to be a reveal to the audience, but she is the reason that Zagreus has started trying to break free from the beginning.
There is an incredible video about depth of Hades' dialogue "The System Behind Hades' Astounding Dialogue" I wholly recommend it - made appreciate the Hades much more, and alter playstyle to try and get as many interesting interactions as possible : )
I’m really curious why you bought darkness? Were you not grinding this repeatedly? What purpose did that serve to the run. Really cool run btw, just tried this for the first time myself and died to Lerny lmao
10:28 ; That was a bit unfortunate. And it was proof that you’re human, and not perfect, and how greed can sometimes bite us. 😂 This is an awesome achievement though! I can never even reach Meg on my first run. Plus I always fall into the greed trap of always grabbing a God perk from Charon’s shop, even if it isn’t a powerful God. And not having enough money for Poms or sometimes even health.
These bombs are usually not a problem so when I dash into them I expect to delfect and not take damage Also I recently made few attempts to beat first run in hell mode and it's hell indeed
Depends on boons, but in any case based on my experience on hell mode (fresh file too, you can check my 68th attempt, it's on channel I suppose) using dash, attack and special right way allows to almost have no animation between, or at least it feels so
Your explanations are not adding up. Until Zagreus found the letter, he only knew Nyx as his mother. The letter moment only happens during the resting sequence, which doesn’t happen until some runs later.
@@Arkl1te Clearly a flashback, the black and white shouuld havee been enough to show that, he rests and is simply dreaming of when he found the letter. you can also tell this because he calls hades his father but at the start of the game is already calling Nyx by her name, which would not be the case if he thought she was his mother at the beginning of the game. the game starts after zagreus finds the truth out about his mother and has decided he's going to escape the underworld for that sole purpose.
You know I never really quite think about the fact that Persephone didn't bother to get closer to the boss area so that she could have more time with her beloved Zagreus
I’m pretty sure nyx helped when she escaped and set some sort of spell so she’d stay hidden from Olympus. That’s why she stayed in her garden
@@jayayj5574 she even mentions it after one of your escapes, she stays there "away from the watch of Mount Olympus and away from the watch of the Underworld"
@@azuregolem1047 yeah thanks for confirming it. Forgot about that part
Im pretty confident that her cottage specifically is veiled by Nyx from the gods
43:40 My favorite piece of dialogue in the game...
"I'm sending you home." "No, you're going home, not me."
Every player knows through trial what "Home" means to these characters... Such a powerful piece of speech
mine is
Hades: You only got up here with the help from the Olympians.
Zag: That's funny because you got here because of them too.
@@adamhakim4653 that doesn't even make sense
@@FredMaverik The Olympians drew lots to divide the realm, Hades ended up in hell. Ergo, the Olympians were the reason Hades wound up in the underworld.
I notice the interaction with Meg once you got back to house changed, usually she says if you pass her again you had better make it all the way to the surface does she not? THAT is a textbook example of accounting for all possibilities.
It seems her dualogue after successful run has bigger priority than other I guess. Like on these reddit posts where people use keepsakes for specific god but then there's Poseidon because it's some tutorial
I thought Hades himself had something to say for a first run fight. Guess not.
well... im pretty sure Zagreus doesnt know about Persephone during first run, so they didnt account for all possibilities :D
@@arias1610 he does know, we find out why he wants to escape through flashbacks
incredible that this can be done! nice work!
thanks, but it requires good luck or to be pro in this game, I had luck. But hell mode is much harder so even luck didn't save me in most attempts I had recently
Also I have no idea what videos I can do that would be interesting
Something I notice is that for all that anger zagreus has towards his father, he did relay his message. He is just too nice.
Thanks for this, I just finished my first run but instead of talking to Hades at the end of it I gifted him nectar and I couldn't talk to him afterwards.
hahaha what did he say to that?
@@bajinglez He was just angry and didn't give anything in return! What a jerk!
@@Norinios Keep giving him more necter eventually he will not only give it all back to you but will also give a powerful item.
@@nabinoorshahil2715 I'll do that then... Once I maxed Dusa
@@Norinios Trust me you want to keep Dusa for last in the house. I won't spoil why. Meg and Than are better to start with if you are seeking romance.
Thank you for making a full, clean recording of this.
most of the time i end up failing at Elysium due to the swordmen.
they and spearmen have a very fast attack, so sometimes it's better to wait for them to attack and attack then
I've been trying to do this myself, had about 30 tries so far mostly favouring Dionysus attack+Pressure Points, but I'm gonna have to give Ares another go... And I didn't even realise you could get legendary boons! Athena's is so gooood. Well played to you!
Thanks, I was very curious about if there is any dialogue changes, when you beat Hades on first try.
It’s unreal how ridiculously useful Athena’s blessings are. I stg, if you can only choose one god to get blessings from, choose her. Projectiles really do suck in this game and her abilities completely remove it. One of the best dash abilities in the game too.
That was sick! Well played.
33:05 Thought they might have different dialogue here, you're not supposed to know about Persephone yet. They never accounted for someone beating this on the first run I guess.
Zagreus does know about Persephone at the start of the game! The sequence where you find the note is presented as a flashback!
It's supposed to be a reveal to the audience, but she is the reason that Zagreus has started trying to break free from the beginning.
The Persephone thing is a flashback though no?
So amazing! I have passed this game 80 times, but I always wonder if there would be any difference if I had passed it on the first try
There is an incredible video about depth of Hades' dialogue "The System Behind Hades' Astounding Dialogue" I wholly recommend it - made appreciate the Hades much more, and alter playstyle to try and get as many interesting interactions as possible : )
This is legit shocking. I didn't think this was possible.
This was so awesome, I couldn't even imagine achieving this 😂
I’m really curious why you bought darkness? Were you not grinding this repeatedly? What purpose did that serve to the run.
Really cool run btw, just tried this for the first time myself and died to Lerny lmao
I just planned to continue file once I managed to win in first run, so I knew that if I make it then darkness will be useful
Thats insane
42:35
Amazing
Yeah, I'm trying to do it on hell mode right now, it's kinda harder
10:28 ; That was a bit unfortunate. And it was proof that you’re human, and not perfect, and how greed can sometimes bite us. 😂
This is an awesome achievement though! I can never even reach Meg on my first run.
Plus I always fall into the greed trap of always grabbing a God perk from Charon’s shop, even if it isn’t a powerful God. And not having enough money for Poms or sometimes even health.
These bombs are usually not a problem so when I dash into them I expect to delfect and not take damage
Also I recently made few attempts to beat first run in hell mode and it's hell indeed
Why do the enemies die so much quicker here? No way I can drop them that fast right from the start
Depends on boons, but in any case based on my experience on hell mode (fresh file too, you can check my 68th attempt, it's on channel I suppose) using dash, attack and special right way allows to almost have no animation between, or at least it feels so
I died to meg
I have 360 hours
It happens, it's fine
Where can I download a fresh savefile which successfully escapes at the first run?:weary:
That information is only granted to frogs and chess players
@@jacobsamson257 sometimes even frogs do not possess such information
how did zagreus knew about his mother
he already did; when he rested it was a flashback to before he started escaping
Kami already gave answer
Player knows about Zagreus' mother from flashback, so Zagreus already knows about her when he starts first attempt
Your explanations are not adding up. Until Zagreus found the letter, he only knew Nyx as his mother. The letter moment only happens during the resting sequence, which doesn’t happen until some runs later.
@@Arkl1te they literally just explained that's a flashback
@@Arkl1te Clearly a flashback, the black and white shouuld havee been enough to show that, he rests and is simply dreaming of when he found the letter.
you can also tell this because he calls hades his father but at the start of the game is already calling Nyx by her name, which would not be the case if he thought she was his mother at the beginning of the game.
the game starts after zagreus finds the truth out about his mother and has decided he's going to escape the underworld for that sole purpose.
now do it again without deflect dash
I'd rather do it on hell mode. Besides, deflect dash opens path to Athena's legendary IIRC
а как тебя зовут?
а есть ли разница?
Sound level? hello?
I don’t get it? This isn’t the first run.
first run on the file, so "fresh file" or "clear file" would work as well