My favorite part of this game is that Zag’s only experience with butterflies is the butterfly balls in Elysium so he’s terrified of them on the surface
@@rns6889 Not really, we were kids after all. Things like the origin of Asterios and Medusa were excluded because... do I need to explain? Also certain stories were omitted for example the tale of Jason ended with the Argonautica as we were never taught Medea. I also think we didn't learn about Heracles killing his wife and children, I could just bot be remembering well but i feel like the kept that fact from us. The only "adult" thing we were taught in full was Zeus going around having babies with everyone which we mostly just found funny after some point, even in that early we made jokes about the head god fucking around with everything. We never realised some of the weirder things that meant since, you know, we didn't know where babies came from.
Isn't it a shame that we Greeks were only taught the basics and some Americans even know more myths than us? I just get disappointed by it. (I mean, I had to google a lot of characters Hades had and it's just sad)
I remember the first time I killed Hades and then he revived himself and I died to his AoE energy blast literally right after he revived I remember I, out loud, said "oh what the f***" beautiful video, better game you deserve a long break after completing this game
Yyyyyep. That was me, first time I played with Extreme Measures 4 on lmaooo just "Yes! Get rekt, Ha- wait what? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN, THERE'S A THIRD HEALTH BAR???" Aaaaaand then I died, of course
35 runs to reach Hades, defeated on the 69th. 108 runs to complete the story. The goosebumps the first time I heard "In The Blood"...simply amazing. A masterpiece on so many levels.
Ok but for real though, even if this game wasn’t as good as it is. The fact that Super Giant does whatever it can to care about it’s employees is something you do not see with most industries today, so they deserve all the praise they get as a company
SuperGiant absolutely needs to be celebrated and even lightly mythologized. Holding them up as the industry golden boy might cause a paradigm shift someday.
And the fact that their games tend to be solid, especially this one, just goes to show how beneficial it is to take care of your employees. All those half-baked AAA games you see nowadays, I guarantee they are product of intense crunch that caused by mismanagement of time, resources and expectations. This is what you get when you actually give your devs chance to refill their batteries and to complete their workload in schedule it requires. This is what every AAA game could be if they weren't rushed out of the gate in hopes of quick short term gains. There's no other reason than devs not being able to work to their full potential due to that aforementioned mismanagement.
What shocked me was the mention that they get 20 days holiday per year as a big thing. In most of the developed world statutory holidays are a legal requirement for workers (5.6 weeks in the UK, etc). It should be written in law that companies in the US of North America do that, rather than it being up to the individual company instead.
I think the most ironic part of Sisyphus' punishment is that he sought never-ending life and ended up receiving never-ending suffering. It teaches the lesson that sometimes letting something end is good.
Yes it was supposed to be a karmic representation that what he sought was a fruitless endeavor, as he died anyway and now, he will forever do something pointless.
Honestly, you do way more for most games then I would consider "complete", you always go above and beyond so leaving out stuff like completing hell mode or doing every romance in persona 5 is more then understandable to me. Take care of yourself man!
Something I really loved in Hades was the almost PERFECT portrayal of the gods as a whole. First is the titular Hades. After years of being portrayed as a villain, as evil or some sort of grim megalomaniac, (and Rick Riordan doing his great portrayal of all gods eventualy), this game pretty much NAILED the idea of a grumpy, "no fun allowed" and industrious god who only cares about maintaining the afterlife as orderly and fair as possible, going through all the "parchmentwork" and managing all the labourers and co-workers of his realm. Then we have the Olympic gods who are portrayed as fickle, distant and often single-minded. Throughout the game we clearly see not all gods are good-intentioned to Zagreus. Sure Athena is DEFINITELY helping us out of good will, Zeus and Poseidon are just enjoying something to further bother Hades, Dyonisus and Aphrodite see Zagreus as a "toy" or source of amusement, which fits their nature but don't make them entirely blameless (although Dyonisus is pure Himbo and I love it!). So we end up with this pantheon of gods where we can't expect much from them, aside from definitely NOT trusting all of them. Trust Hades and Athena, the rest, be very careful.
Screw Hell-mode… you literally did absolutely everything you could possibly do in the game. I think you more than proved you completed Hades. Amazing job btw. Hades really is one of the best games I’ve ever played. Supergiant is such a great developer.
You're an absolute mad lad for finishing off the Resource Director, and really a couple Hell Mode clears is fine - once you start adding Heat the differences between Normal Mode and Hell Mode quickly start disappearing anyways.
Two reasons I like Hades compared to other rogue-likes (and rogue-lites): First, The Story (makes it a little engaging). Second, God Mode (which made it possible for me to actually complete the game).
@@shardofomega4427 Wizard of legends is definitely one of the harder ones. At least now . The devs made it harder because people "beat it too fast". It originally wasn't as punishing as it is now. Also co-op is very fun and much easier imo. Should play it with a friend for sure
@@tumultuousv I think that hades I pretty easy compared to the majority of rogue likes, u need just 20-30 attempts and then ur pretty good and can easily kill hades.
@@tumultuousv Lol. No. Go 100% Dead Cells then get back to me. Or most others in this genre, actually. Hades is a brilliant game, one of the best in the category. Top 3 material. But it's FAR easier than many of the others. That mirror is more OP than you realize until you compare it to its compatriots' permanent upgrades.
I remember seeing the contractor upgrade that always extreme measures to go to level 4, making Hades himself harder. needless to say, I basically swore off ever doing that because I was confident I would never beat him if I did. I am now at the point where I always have extreme measures maxed out so I can boost the heat by 10 points and make runs a challenge and, by extension, more enjoyable. I'm very happy with myself for getting to the point where something I saw as impossible for me is now done on a regular basis for the purpose of adding heat and being a fun challenge.
Same! I remember seeing that and thinking "nope" because Hades was hard enough. Now I can't fight him without it, because it's so fun. The boss fights without extreme measures on now, seem like a nice little break lol.
Yea, America has really poor workers rights unfortunately. In the UK the legal minimum is 28 days, and we’re probably middle of the road among European nations.
@@MrVisualHigh A lot of employers in the UK take "bank holidays" into consideration though so technically its also 20 days only if you're unlucky. In Germany for example you get your annual leave and on top of that you get all public holidays. In some states as many as 13-14 extra days. The US is terrible though
@@mrpenguin2247 It's really just getting rid of the old mindset of "grind until you die". We're slowly getting there with this newer workers revolution that's kinda-sorta happening, but we need to realize there's more to life besides work and we should get paid enough to compensate that. We just have too many people stuck in the past, thinking the economy is the same as it was in the 90s.
Oh wow, I thought "completion" would just be earning all the Steam achievements... This is a whole new amount of grinding! Some items in the shop are sooo expensive!
I love Greek mythology, so this was undoubtedly gonna be my jam. I’m also happy Zagreous has the wit of Hades and the kindness of Persephone since I was thinking they were gonna completely forget about Persephone, but they didn’t and I’m so happy
i read all the percy jackson universe and that was a gateway drug for me. many mythology books followed and i became well versed in most mythologies. it was easy to pick up on what this game was putting down. so fantastic.
This game truly is something else, that first time you beat Hades and youre all of a sudden even more motivated to do it again. Ive never felt that in a roguelike before.
Hades was my first roguelike, and I wasn't expecting to play it past my first defeat of the final boss, but I had so much fun with all the different boons and weapons that I wound up getting the true final "ending" in no time. I still, to this day, will boot it up and play it few rounds since there's still dialogues and relationships I have yet to complete
I’m proud of you! I have spent so hours playing this game and have yet to earn any of the pets lol!! No reason to do everything twice, you did an amazing job! I have been watching you for years and you often come to my mind as one of the greatest gamers of our modern era! Keep it pushing man, you are like the Kevin Durant if gaming!
17:09 Theseus isn't the 'Hero of Odysseus' he doesn't even appear in the Odyssey, or have any connection to Oddysseus. He's the national hero of Athens though.
Honestly, as much as I chuckle at their interactions... I gotta give them last place, personally. Not even because I hate Theseus, just bc I greatly prefer the wholesome reunions of Orpheus, Achilles and Hades with their respective partners, the sheer adorableness of Than and Zag, and Zag's little rivals to lovers arc with Meg. Actually- no, second to last place. I forgot about Ares makin moves on Nyx. Something about him is just,,, offputting to me, idk.
Have you ever taken an un-spent Yarn of Ariadne into the Theseus fight? There are at last 4 unique dialogues of Theseus getting mad at your 'foul trickery'. There might be more, but I have only managed to do it 4 times myself.
@@lProN00bl Yeah, but Poseidon already gave 'cool but creepy uncle' vibes, like you'd suspect that was already how he behaved. Ares doesn't seem as interested in a partner at first, so it makes his leering at Nyx somehow more off-putting.
@@ChargeQM I mean, in the way that this game pictures him, Ares is basically the god of killing things. So I get ya, it's kind of like having a smooth-talking serial killer ask your mom out.
FINALLY! I’ve been waiting for this video for so long. Hades is one of my favorite games ever and I’m so glad you’re finally covering it Though I definitely get why it took so long. I just reached the epilogue a few weeks and there is still SO MUCH I need to do in it. I’m only on heat like 5 or 6 and don’t expect to go much past that regardless of how hard I try.
@@MrWhygodwhy it was the meeting with all the gods. Probably wasn’t the full epilogue but seemed easier then saying the ending as the boat ride back could also be considered the ending
@@arowace498 any suggestions for the weapon I should use to get there? Excalibur was fun but didn’t seem like it’d work on higher heats. The hidden knuckles seemed best but also risky
Funny enough I finally started to play this game 2 weeks ago and yesterday I checked to see if you did a video on it...happy to see you uploading it the following day lol.
I took three separate “Myth and Legends” classes in high school (2008-2010) that covered Greek, Roman, Norse, and Egyptian stories. Some of the best classes that kept me enthralled entirely while learning these myths.
Congrats to Jirard for completely this insane task. All the better, he didn't force himself to do it again on another save file that was basically the exact same experience. Hades is a masterpiece of a roguelike, and I'm glad the Completionist reached its end still loving it.
In school, Greel mythology was rarely a topic that we touched. But when I first heard about it, I got curious and kept reading more and more about it. To me, it wasn't really something to learn and study, but instead a big amount of exciting adventure stories. And that, combined with the big amount of Grimm fairy tales I read as a kid, turned me into the huge fantasy fan I am today. The only thing I read more about in my childhood than Greek mythology were dinosaurs.
I really enjoyed god mode and when I came to the resource director I put it down. Some months later I started anew with Hell Mode and I felt I've gotten really far. Still haven't completed the entire music catalogue or maxed out all the weapons, but the fated list and all of the codex. I might come back to it to push for those final few steps of completion, but I can't imagine playing for resource director completion, especially on hell mode. Thank you so much for making this video, it was nice to hear someone articulate a lot of my excitement about specific things when it comes to this game. I don't often to a full complete of a game, but the gameplay allows me to not play even when my mind isn't in the mood for reading a lot of dialogue like in my favorite RPGs.
So like..I want to make an interesting comparison from God Mode, because what it really reminds me is one of the first dynamic difficulties introduced in video games: Aku Aku. if you die a couple of times, Crash will throw you a bone and slide you an Aku Aku mask for your trouble and it makes the first game so much easier to get through to the end no matter how you take it on.
As someone who loves god of war, Percy Jackson and just Greek mythology in general, I loved seeing all the mythological figures and talking to them. Definitely one of my favourite games
I absolutely love the timing of this video's release. I finished Hades and put it aside several months ago, but reliving the joy of this game through your eyes made me boot up hell mode to start anew. Thanks as always ❤️
"One must imagine Sisyphus happy" -Camus Realizing the struggle to complete a game in and of itself can be fulfilling, is a great argument for why Roguelikes as a genre are engaging.
Agreed. For rogue-likes in general, Dead Cells both slaps and beats the shit out of this one, remaining the still-untoppled champion in the spotlight. In terms of game-play design, anyway. But it still lacks the pure flair and artistry of Hades. I can genuinely see why people who HATE rouge-like games still adore this one. It can be argued that this game is so much more compelling not for its gameplay loop, but for the downtime in the middle. You almost *want* to die already, just to get back to the House and see what's up. In a perfect world, we'd get a nice balance between the two. Until that happens, they'll always be the two sides of a coin that all game devs should aspire to. Edit: I 100% mean what I said. Especially as a game designer myself. Dead cells is just objectively better, in terms of balance, replay value, and QoL factors. But there are aspects of the genre that have never been fleshed out as well as Hades did it- story telling and overall satisfaction of progression, mostly. It's really only the super-anal-retentive folk like myself that can point out its flaws, mostly a lack of good build diversity in the end-game and the fact that increasing heat adds purely artificial difficulty. (Dead cells, for example- on higher BC levels, both adds new enemies and complexity as well as making your gear scale well for the new challenges at hand. Hell, quite a few weapons only shine at higher difficulties. Hades, however, just makes things more tedious with far less payoff. There's almost no point in the struggle after 15-20 heat except for completionists) And still Hades remains the game I recommend to most folk. Bc it's written and portrayed so well that pretty much nobody will notice or complain.
I just had my first successful escape playing! I have very rarely played indie games but this is the most genuine fun I've had playing a game in a long time!
I was so excited to see this review go up. I absolutely adore Hades. While I've only gotten the "true" ending (and thus not the "secret" ending, there's too many games on my plate right now) I absolutely plan to go back to enjoy it some more until I do. I was worried when you said you were doing Hades that you'd try to go for something crazy like "all heat" or something like that. Glad to see that you're putting your mental health first as you still complete the game with a reasonable definition. Glad you had fun with it!
This game got me so good, I was basically not able to play anything but Hades for a few months straight. Definitely the overall best rogue like I've played. I still love other roguelikes, but this one just had so much depth and beauty.
Was Theseus really this much of a problem for people? I just always killed Asterius first, before going after Theseus at all. Never had too much issue after the first few fights and the first couple against the upgraded version.
i found that the dionysus duo cast boons works wonders against theseus considering he stays still or moves slowly often. well except when upgraded but thats what the calls are for
17:10 Theseus the hero of odysseus? Jerard go back to school man.......The hero of "Odyssey" Is Odysseus. Theseus and the Minotaur are of the same mythos. Theseus was the son of Aegeus king of Athens. Where the Aegean sea took his name. Stop butchering our mythology man. Great video though!
The ability to replay Hades is legendary - learned a lot about the game studio thanks to this - Thanks! This studio will have my full support so long as they support their development processes and worker support!
Watching this makes me realize I’m not even playing the same hades game as him…. Dear lord there is sooooooo much content in this game I haven’t even scratched the surface.
I got this like a week ago!!!! I’ve already fought Hades himself once, didn’t win, but I’ll get him next time! Edit: I DEFEATED HIM!!!!!! SECOND ATTEMPT, 76th RUN!!!!!!! WHOOOO HOOOOOOO-
@@amycox5733 I mean if you don’t play other games it’s probably pretty good, I finished the games main story at like 42 clears. I was just thinking how tilted I would’ve gotten if I had done that many runs🤣 not sure if people use god mode much, but I personally like playing the game how the devs intended it to be played, but it’s nice they have that option for people that feel the need to use it
I remember reading a lot of greek myths in middle school, but I don't know if that was on my own, in classes, or both. Also, I'd say defeating Hades once on Hell Mode is enough to say you completed the game. No need to do all the rest of it again. Hope you do something simple and fun for your next game Completion.
I was so looking forward to seeing your eventual Hades video and boy did it not disappoint! Honestly it's probably my favorite game of the past 5 years at least. The art, the music, the struggles but also the victories are so majestic.
Even though I've never taken a Greek Mythology class or read Percy Jackson (I was more of a Warriors kid 😔) I still loved the mythos. Hearing Dionysus congradulate you for kicking Theseus to death, Dio and Zag pranking Orpheus, or seeing Hypnos's missing wing was so cool.
this video hit different... ive been playing hades for years while in development, waiting for each patch seeing how the game changed and trying new weapons. This game is amazing. Great video!
Among the hundreds of game in your backlog that will forever remain untouched, this is the one you must rescue, much like the heroes of old that would plunge into the depths of hell to save whoever
Great video!! One of my best friends works at Supergiant, but even if she had nothing to do with it, I absolutely still would be going through and completing it - I'm currently stuck grinding for some final house cosmetics and security ranks and I have been waiting so, so long to hear your experience with it (and was both sad and glad to know it was just as repetitive and painful for us both)! Still love the game to bits and I absolutely love your small tribute to the game in recognizing the little details put in so lovingly by the dev team. Thanks for opting to take care of yourself - it definitely inspires others to do the same!
You, sir, are certifiably bananas. I was cool with the FF10 craziness. I was cool with the Hyrule Warriors madness...but this! This is something special. Perhaps my favorite video so far. Very well done.
Ah, of course, the classic weapons of the Ancient Greek battles, such storied artifacts of war. Sword, Spear, Shield, Bow, Gloves... and of course, GUN
Just got the platinum for this, not the completion grind but I completely agree with your sentiments here. An amazing experience through the story and gameplay, but a lot of busy work near the end of it all.
Ah yes, the game that made all that time in middle school reading the Percy Jackson books totally worth it.
Lmao saaame
true
Lmao, between that god of war we were set
LMFAO FR FR
It's crazy how true this is
My favorite part of this game is that Zag’s only experience with butterflies is the butterfly balls in Elysium so he’s terrified of them on the surface
What about death's keepsake?
@@zjackshot than? Still a killer butterfly
@@zjackshot already been pierced so it's safe
That’s like saying someone shouldn’t be afraid of a crocodile because they have a gator leather handbag.
I know, I was laughing so much. This game does the rougelike feature well. Other games should really deepen interactions like this
Over here in Greece we are taught our myths during 3rd grade history instead of actual history. It was awesome.
Τότε που η ιστορία ήταν actually ενδιαφέρον και όχι άχρηστες πληροφορίες
But, Greek myth is kind of off uhhh many adulterous things did try taught you that too in 3rd grade tho
@@rns6889 Not really, we were kids after all. Things like the origin of Asterios and Medusa were excluded because... do I need to explain? Also certain stories were omitted for example the tale of Jason ended with the Argonautica as we were never taught Medea. I also think we didn't learn about Heracles killing his wife and children, I could just bot be remembering well but i feel like the kept that fact from us. The only "adult" thing we were taught in full was Zeus going around having babies with everyone which we mostly just found funny after some point, even in that early we made jokes about the head god fucking around with everything. We never realised some of the weirder things that meant since, you know, we didn't know where babies came from.
@@Babis_2003 ah yes how asterius was born 💀
Isn't it a shame that we Greeks were only taught the basics and some Americans even know more myths than us? I just get disappointed by it. (I mean, I had to google a lot of characters Hades had and it's just sad)
Okay, the Hades remix of the DKC2 Bonus Theme you put in here is incredible
would love to know if there is a link to listen the full version of it. :3
hey razbuten, when's the roguelike video coming
Yooooo, what's up Raz!
Yes! Once I recognized it I was immediately enamored with it!
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I remember the first time I killed Hades
and then he revived himself and I died to his AoE energy blast literally right after he revived
I remember I, out loud, said "oh what the f***"
beautiful video, better game
you deserve a long break after completing this game
Yyyyyep. That was me, first time I played with Extreme Measures 4 on lmaooo just "Yes! Get rekt, Ha- wait what? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU MEAN, THERE'S A THIRD HEALTH BAR???" Aaaaaand then I died, of course
@@themorrigan1312 man EM4 suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
but it's really satisfying
I find his 2nd phase the easiest. His 3rd phase though with heat turned up to 32...*shudders*
I said "Of course there's a second phase"
@@ReelPodcasts if only I had that level of insight
35 runs to reach Hades, defeated on the 69th. 108 runs to complete the story. The goosebumps the first time I heard "In The Blood"...simply amazing. A masterpiece on so many levels.
thats amazing i think i hit 95 tries before i even got to the hades boss fight lol
Ok but for real though, even if this game wasn’t as good as it is. The fact that Super Giant does whatever it can to care about it’s employees is something you do not see with most industries today, so they deserve all the praise they get as a company
Supergiant*
And for this reason and the fact that this game is a masterpiece I bought 3 copies of it, switch digital, physical and steam.
@@greenphlem Shit that’s right hahaha
SuperGiant absolutely needs to be celebrated and even lightly mythologized. Holding them up as the industry golden boy might cause a paradigm shift someday.
And the fact that their games tend to be solid, especially this one, just goes to show how beneficial it is to take care of your employees. All those half-baked AAA games you see nowadays, I guarantee they are product of intense crunch that caused by mismanagement of time, resources and expectations. This is what you get when you actually give your devs chance to refill their batteries and to complete their workload in schedule it requires. This is what every AAA game could be if they weren't rushed out of the gate in hopes of quick short term gains. There's no other reason than devs not being able to work to their full potential due to that aforementioned mismanagement.
The way Supergiant treats its employees is honestly moving. I hope more developers create studios based on that model.
What shocked me was the mention that they get 20 days holiday per year as a big thing. In most of the developed world statutory holidays are a legal requirement for workers (5.6 weeks in the UK, etc).
It should be written in law that companies in the US of North America do that, rather than it being up to the individual company instead.
"Everything I did revolved around Darkness"
*Xehanort smiles*
Jirard got norted confirmed
I was thinking about Kingdom Hearts when he was saying darkness so much.
Let's eat some ice cream!
We are best friends now!
hahahahahaha
I think the most ironic part of Sisyphus' punishment is that he sought never-ending life and ended up receiving never-ending suffering. It teaches the lesson that sometimes letting something end is good.
Yes it was supposed to be a karmic representation that what he sought was a fruitless endeavor, as he died anyway and now, he will forever do something pointless.
@@saiyasha848or until I finish his favor sidequest.
one must imagine Sisyphus happy
I usually hate rouge lites, but I enjoy hades because of the story. Now hades 2 has been announced and I am thrilled.
Same. Hades was literally my first rogue lite and I'm still playing it today
Hades is awesome. I’m not big on rogue lites either but dead cells and Skul are both great too
And everyone got pissed just because the new main character was a girl
@@QuadratusTiberium who got mad?
@@camerondiflo3828 a lot of people
Honestly, you do way more for most games then I would consider "complete", you always go above and beyond so leaving out stuff like completing hell mode or doing every romance in persona 5 is more then understandable to me. Take care of yourself man!
Hell mode is completely unnecessary but I'm disappointed that he didn't complete 32 heat on every weapon aspect when it's not even that hard.
@@StrengthScholar0 He got the statue. ANd then he still had 300,000 darkness to get. Why would he keep it in crazy hard mode at that point?
as long as it's in the game then it's part of completing it ofc
My first run was hell mode, enjoying pain over here
@@ididntaskverified3663 same.. I beat hades after my 100th attempt lol
Something I really loved in Hades was the almost PERFECT portrayal of the gods as a whole. First is the titular Hades. After years of being portrayed as a villain, as evil or some sort of grim megalomaniac, (and Rick Riordan doing his great portrayal of all gods eventualy), this game pretty much NAILED the idea of a grumpy, "no fun allowed" and industrious god who only cares about maintaining the afterlife as orderly and fair as possible, going through all the "parchmentwork" and managing all the labourers and co-workers of his realm. Then we have the Olympic gods who are portrayed as fickle, distant and often single-minded. Throughout the game we clearly see not all gods are good-intentioned to Zagreus. Sure Athena is DEFINITELY helping us out of good will, Zeus and Poseidon are just enjoying something to further bother Hades, Dyonisus and Aphrodite see Zagreus as a "toy" or source of amusement, which fits their nature but don't make them entirely blameless (although Dyonisus is pure Himbo and I love it!). So we end up with this pantheon of gods where we can't expect much from them, aside from definitely NOT trusting all of them. Trust Hades and Athena, the rest, be very careful.
Hermes is pretty chill
@@stuffyevil oh yea, I forgot about him, mostly because he wasn't roped into it but stumbled upon us because his work involves the underworld.
@Hongding Zhou yup, when Demeter realizes Zagreus is her grandson, she warms up SO MUCH to him.
@@MrKlausbaudelaire though you can also say that he's a confidant in the whole affair
Artemis tho?
Screw Hell-mode… you literally did absolutely everything you could possibly do in the game. I think you more than proved you completed Hades. Amazing job btw.
Hades really is one of the best games I’ve ever played. Supergiant is such a great developer.
You're an absolute mad lad for finishing off the Resource Director, and really a couple Hell Mode clears is fine - once you start adding Heat the differences between Normal Mode and Hell Mode quickly start disappearing anyways.
Two reasons I like Hades compared to other rogue-likes (and rogue-lites): First, The Story (makes it a little engaging). Second, God Mode (which made it possible for me to actually complete the game).
Other roguelikes(lites) are generally easier though as well anyways
@@tumultuousv …my experience with Wizard of Legend (scrub at that one as I may be) differs significantly from that statement.
@@shardofomega4427 Wizard of legends is definitely one of the harder ones. At least now . The devs made it harder because people "beat it too fast". It originally wasn't as punishing as it is now. Also co-op is very fun and much easier imo. Should play it with a friend for sure
@@tumultuousv I think that hades I pretty easy compared to the majority of rogue likes, u need just 20-30 attempts and then ur pretty good and can easily kill hades.
@@tumultuousv Lol. No. Go 100% Dead Cells then get back to me. Or most others in this genre, actually. Hades is a brilliant game, one of the best in the category. Top 3 material. But it's FAR easier than many of the others. That mirror is more OP than you realize until you compare it to its compatriots' permanent upgrades.
I literally bought this game yesterday and im in love with it, such a fun game with music that slaps the bass as hard as Rush
SLAPPA DE BAAYYESS
Rush sucks..
@@Wraiven22 you get it 👌🏻
I remember seeing the contractor upgrade that always extreme measures to go to level 4, making Hades himself harder. needless to say, I basically swore off ever doing that because I was confident I would never beat him if I did.
I am now at the point where I always have extreme measures maxed out so I can boost the heat by 10 points and make runs a challenge and, by extension, more enjoyable. I'm very happy with myself for getting to the point where something I saw as impossible for me is now done on a regular basis for the purpose of adding heat and being a fun challenge.
Plus that metal track is godlike
Same! I remember seeing that and thinking "nope" because Hades was hard enough. Now I can't fight him without it, because it's so fun. The boss fights without extreme measures on now, seem like a nice little break lol.
'Require their employees to take 20 days off a year'
Europe: that little annual leave would be illegal 😆
But for game devs, that's a bloody godsend. Hopefully more changes like this come as gamedevs deserve more time off.
From a country where waiters are surviving on tips instead of liveable wages this is something very much welcome indeed.
Yea, America has really poor workers rights unfortunately. In the UK the legal minimum is 28 days, and we’re probably middle of the road among European nations.
@@MrVisualHigh A lot of employers in the UK take "bank holidays" into consideration though so technically its also 20 days only if you're unlucky. In Germany for example you get your annual leave and on top of that you get all public holidays. In some states as many as 13-14 extra days. The US is terrible though
@@mrpenguin2247 It's really just getting rid of the old mindset of "grind until you die". We're slowly getting there with this newer workers revolution that's kinda-sorta happening, but we need to realize there's more to life besides work and we should get paid enough to compensate that. We just have too many people stuck in the past, thinking the economy is the same as it was in the 90s.
Oh wow, I thought "completion" would just be earning all the Steam achievements... This is a whole new amount of grinding! Some items in the shop are sooo expensive!
Holy crap, forty minutes? This is gonna be a heck of a ride!
On a masterpiece? Indeed it does.
I heard the word "Darkness" so many times at the end of this video that I momentarily though I had slipped into a Kingdom Hearts video.
I love Greek mythology, so this was undoubtedly gonna be my jam. I’m also happy Zagreous has the wit of Hades and the kindness of Persephone since I was thinking they were gonna completely forget about Persephone, but they didn’t and I’m so happy
Can't wait for the second game
"Who's Guan Yu?" I love that they talk about the other Heroic characters in this game.
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After losing my grandfather to dementia, I wholeheartedly support this
Thanks man! More fun and for a great cause💓
enter the gungeon please
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I applaud you for doing this, especially as someone who lost a family friend to dementia and has a family history of Alzheimer’s as well.
i read all the percy jackson universe and that was a gateway drug for me. many mythology books followed and i became well versed in most mythologies. it was easy to pick up on what this game was putting down. so fantastic.
Thanks for promoting the devs that truly deserve it! Their way about creating games and worthy of attention and in my opinion an example to follow.
This game truly is something else, that first time you beat Hades and youre all of a sudden even more motivated to do it again. Ive never felt that in a roguelike before.
Hades was my first roguelike, and I wasn't expecting to play it past my first defeat of the final boss, but I had so much fun with all the different boons and weapons that I wound up getting the true final "ending" in no time. I still, to this day, will boot it up and play it few rounds since there's still dialogues and relationships I have yet to complete
I’m proud of you! I have spent so hours playing this game and have yet to earn any of the pets lol!! No reason to do everything twice, you did an amazing job! I have been watching you for years and you often come to my mind as one of the greatest gamers of our modern era! Keep it pushing man, you are like the Kevin Durant if gaming!
17:09 Theseus isn't the 'Hero of Odysseus' he doesn't even appear in the Odyssey, or have any connection to Oddysseus. He's the national hero of Athens though.
Best couple of the game?
Theseus and Asterius of course!
I love their interactions, the best part of every run.
Honestly, as much as I chuckle at their interactions... I gotta give them last place, personally. Not even because I hate Theseus, just bc I greatly prefer the wholesome reunions of Orpheus, Achilles and Hades with their respective partners, the sheer adorableness of Than and Zag, and Zag's little rivals to lovers arc with Meg. Actually- no, second to last place. I forgot about Ares makin moves on Nyx. Something about him is just,,, offputting to me, idk.
@@themorrigan1312 Better Ares than "Broseiden" telling Artemis to smile more. Never have I wanted to punch a god more than that moment.
Have you ever taken an un-spent Yarn of Ariadne into the Theseus fight? There are at last 4 unique dialogues of Theseus getting mad at your 'foul trickery'. There might be more, but I have only managed to do it 4 times myself.
@@lProN00bl Yeah, but Poseidon already gave 'cool but creepy uncle' vibes, like you'd suspect that was already how he behaved. Ares doesn't seem as interested in a partner at first, so it makes his leering at Nyx somehow more off-putting.
@@ChargeQM I mean, in the way that this game pictures him, Ares is basically the god of killing things. So I get ya, it's kind of like having a smooth-talking serial killer ask your mom out.
The voice acting and dialogue in this game is truly amazing.
FINALLY!
I’ve been waiting for this video for so long. Hades is one of my favorite games ever and I’m so glad you’re finally covering it
Though I definitely get why it took so long. I just reached the epilogue a few weeks and there is still SO MUCH I need to do in it.
I’m only on heat like 5 or 6 and don’t expect to go much past that regardless of how hard I try.
I remember reading the patch notes in Early Access saying that 3, 200 lines of dialogue were added.
I don't think that was the epilogue, I think you just reached the normal ending.
@@MrWhygodwhy it was the meeting with all the gods. Probably wasn’t the full epilogue but seemed easier then saying the ending as the boat ride back could also be considered the ending
you'll make it to 32 heat before you know it, just wait.
@@arowace498 any suggestions for the weapon I should use to get there? Excalibur was fun but didn’t seem like it’d work on higher heats. The hidden knuckles seemed best but also risky
This game really is a gem. So replayable.
Funny enough I finally started to play this game 2 weeks ago and yesterday I checked to see if you did a video on it...happy to see you uploading it the following day lol.
I am continuously astonished at how well the DK track goes with pretty much every other piece but man, this version is especially awesome.
I took three separate “Myth and Legends” classes in high school (2008-2010) that covered Greek, Roman, Norse, and Egyptian stories. Some of the best classes that kept me enthralled entirely while learning these myths.
Congrats to Jirard for completely this insane task. All the better, he didn't force himself to do it again on another save file that was basically the exact same experience. Hades is a masterpiece of a roguelike, and I'm glad the Completionist reached its end still loving it.
Dear Hades! He deserves a medal, a statue, a day of the year named after him, and most importantly, a break!
In school, Greel mythology was rarely a topic that we touched. But when I first heard about it, I got curious and kept reading more and more about it. To me, it wasn't really something to learn and study, but instead a big amount of exciting adventure stories. And that, combined with the big amount of Grimm fairy tales I read as a kid, turned me into the huge fantasy fan I am today.
The only thing I read more about in my childhood than Greek mythology were dinosaurs.
I really enjoyed god mode and when I came to the resource director I put it down. Some months later I started anew with Hell Mode and I felt I've gotten really far. Still haven't completed the entire music catalogue or maxed out all the weapons, but the fated list and all of the codex. I might come back to it to push for those final few steps of completion, but I can't imagine playing for resource director completion, especially on hell mode. Thank you so much for making this video, it was nice to hear someone articulate a lot of my excitement about specific things when it comes to this game. I don't often to a full complete of a game, but the gameplay allows me to not play even when my mind isn't in the mood for reading a lot of dialogue like in my favorite RPGs.
So like..I want to make an interesting comparison from God Mode, because what it really reminds me is one of the first dynamic difficulties introduced in video games: Aku Aku.
if you die a couple of times, Crash will throw you a bone and slide you an Aku Aku mask for your trouble and it makes the first game so much easier to get through to the end no matter how you take it on.
I almost completed this game back in January. But the 32nd heat broke me. I completed EVERYTHING else which made it that much more devastating to me.
This is the first time that I've completed a game before the Completionist, let alone 2x.
Glad the extremely fun gameplay loop outlasted the completion process and nice to know the Zelda feedback was heard.
As someone who loves god of war, Percy Jackson and just Greek mythology in general, I loved seeing all the mythological figures and talking to them. Definitely one of my favourite games
OH SHIT!!!! This is gonna be good!! My respect for you never ceases to grow Jirard. One of the best games of all time 🙌🏾🙌🏾
I absolutely love the timing of this video's release. I finished Hades and put it aside several months ago, but reliving the joy of this game through your eyes made me boot up hell mode to start anew. Thanks as always ❤️
"One must imagine Sisyphus happy" -Camus
Realizing the struggle to complete a game in and of itself can be fulfilling, is a great argument for why Roguelikes as a genre are engaging.
Agreed. For rogue-likes in general, Dead Cells both slaps and beats the shit out of this one, remaining the still-untoppled champion in the spotlight. In terms of game-play design, anyway.
But it still lacks the pure flair and artistry of Hades.
I can genuinely see why people who HATE rouge-like games still adore this one. It can be argued that this game is so much more compelling not for its gameplay loop, but for the downtime in the middle. You almost *want* to die already, just to get back to the House and see what's up.
In a perfect world, we'd get a nice balance between the two. Until that happens, they'll always be the two sides of a coin that all game devs should aspire to.
Edit: I 100% mean what I said. Especially as a game designer myself. Dead cells is just objectively better, in terms of balance, replay value, and QoL factors. But there are aspects of the genre that have never been fleshed out as well as Hades did it- story telling and overall satisfaction of progression, mostly. It's really only the super-anal-retentive folk like myself that can point out its flaws, mostly a lack of good build diversity in the end-game and the fact that increasing heat adds purely artificial difficulty. (Dead cells, for example- on higher BC levels, both adds new enemies and complexity as well as making your gear scale well for the new challenges at hand. Hell, quite a few weapons only shine at higher difficulties. Hades, however, just makes things more tedious with far less payoff. There's almost no point in the struggle after 15-20 heat except for completionists)
And still Hades remains the game I recommend to most folk. Bc it's written and portrayed so well that pretty much nobody will notice or complain.
Jirard's last achievement in Hades be like: "Hello Darkness, my old friend...." (x325,000)
I just had my first successful escape playing! I have very rarely played indie games but this is the most genuine fun I've had playing a game in a long time!
I was so excited to see this review go up. I absolutely adore Hades. While I've only gotten the "true" ending (and thus not the "secret" ending, there's too many games on my plate right now) I absolutely plan to go back to enjoy it some more until I do. I was worried when you said you were doing Hades that you'd try to go for something crazy like "all heat" or something like that. Glad to see that you're putting your mental health first as you still complete the game with a reasonable definition. Glad you had fun with it!
This game got me so good, I was basically not able to play anything but Hades for a few months straight. Definitely the overall best rogue like I've played. I still love other roguelikes, but this one just had so much depth and beauty.
I already completed the game, but man the way you talk is so interesting it was like playing the game again
I was literally playing this game this morning hoping you make a video on it!
Was just about to comment and say it was a great episode clearly long in the making BUT THEN THAT CREDITS JAM STARTED PLAYING AND WTF I LOVE IT!
The Hades-styled end credits music from Donkey Kong Country was just a beautiful touch. Right at the end of the video.
Was Theseus really this much of a problem for people? I just always killed Asterius first, before going after Theseus at all. Never had too much issue after the first few fights and the first couple against the upgraded version.
Same
Died pretty fast the forst 3 runs and then realised i should deal with asterius first and then theseus. Take em on one at a time and keep dodging
i found that the dionysus duo cast boons works wonders against theseus considering he stays still or moves slowly often. well except when upgraded but thats what the calls are for
@@professorwizard8916 Dionysus boons are my favorite. Trippy cast especially
wow it must have taken you DAYS to create this video. The best of the best. Thank you
17:10 Theseus the hero of odysseus? Jerard go back to school man.......The hero of "Odyssey" Is Odysseus. Theseus and the Minotaur are of the same mythos. Theseus was the son of Aegeus king of Athens. Where the Aegean sea took his name. Stop butchering our mythology man. Great video though!
THANK YOU! FUCK! FINALLY _ONE_ PERSON ACTUALLY GETS THE MYTHOLOGY RIGHT!
This comment section is an absolute fucking nuthouse!
The ability to replay Hades is legendary - learned a lot about the game studio thanks to this - Thanks!
This studio will have my full support so long as they support their development processes and worker support!
Have you beaten the game on your first attempt on a fresh save? :D That gets you special dialogue.
Here in michigan greek mythology class was optional in high school but was easily my favorite class ive ever taken, its just so interesting.
Now that the final expansion for it has come out (Repentance), I’d love for you to complete The Binding of Isaac!
So many reviewers out there, you are one of my go to 1sts.
Hey Jirard, how do feel about knowing there's a sequel coming to this game?
there's special Dialogue if you defeat Hades on your first run too, learned that from the Devs reacting to a speedrun
Watching this makes me realize I’m not even playing the same hades game as him….
Dear lord there is sooooooo much content in this game I haven’t even scratched the surface.
THE LONG DARK BY HINTERLAND!!!! It's still early access but what a great game. I'd like to see that Indie on the channel
Everyone knows that Hades is really just a fancy dating sim~
So y'know the Heat system and how it maxes out at 64? Someone has FINALLY beat a regular/non-modded run on 64 heat. The game has truly been beaten!
Oof this aged liked wine 🍷 😂
its so sad. all these videos feel tainted now
Love that shoutout to Noclip. They are doing an amazing job.
That new intro is GNARLY, man. Keep up the good work Jirard and always prioritize your health first, we love you man.
I got this like a week ago!!!! I’ve already fought Hades himself once, didn’t win, but I’ll get him next time!
Edit: I DEFEATED HIM!!!!!! SECOND ATTEMPT, 76th RUN!!!!!!! WHOOOO HOOOOOOO-
hell yeah!!!!
Now... the addiction begins
God damn 76 runs?
@@C1umsyJester is that a lot or a little? I don’t game much and I didn’t use god mode, I hear a lot of people saying they used it.
@@amycox5733 I mean if you don’t play other games it’s probably pretty good, I finished the games main story at like 42 clears. I was just thinking how tilted I would’ve gotten if I had done that many runs🤣 not sure if people use god mode much, but I personally like playing the game how the devs intended it to be played, but it’s nice they have that option for people that feel the need to use it
The parallels of Sisyphus' myth and Hades's gameplay loop flew over my head until I watched the intro. Damn, now I emphasize with the poor guy now.
I remember reading a lot of greek myths in middle school, but I don't know if that was on my own, in classes, or both.
Also, I'd say defeating Hades once on Hell Mode is enough to say you completed the game. No need to do all the rest of it again.
Hope you do something simple and fun for your next game Completion.
I was so looking forward to seeing your eventual Hades video and boy did it not disappoint! Honestly it's probably my favorite game of the past 5 years at least. The art, the music, the struggles but also the victories are so majestic.
Even though I've never taken a Greek Mythology class or read Percy Jackson (I was more of a Warriors kid 😔) I still loved the mythos. Hearing Dionysus congradulate you for kicking Theseus to death, Dio and Zag pranking Orpheus, or seeing Hypnos's missing wing was so cool.
Can't believe I just watched 40+ mins of a ge I might never play. This guy has figured out the formula to keeping folks engaged.
It's truly a masterpiece. I am not a roguelike player but this game had me feeling some type of way and I cannot stop playing it!. 🤷♂️
this video hit different... ive been playing hades for years while in development, waiting for each patch seeing how the game changed and trying new weapons. This game is amazing. Great video!
Don't forget! Korb also does the singning parts for Orpheus as well. The man's is so damn talented.
Among the hundreds of game in your backlog that will forever remain untouched, this is the one you must rescue, much like the heroes of old that would plunge into the depths of hell to save whoever
I see both you and Oney are uploading Hades on the same day both in complete forms
Great video!! One of my best friends works at Supergiant, but even if she had nothing to do with it, I absolutely still would be going through and completing it - I'm currently stuck grinding for some final house cosmetics and security ranks and I have been waiting so, so long to hear your experience with it (and was both sad and glad to know it was just as repetitive and painful for us both)! Still love the game to bits and I absolutely love your small tribute to the game in recognizing the little details put in so lovingly by the dev team. Thanks for opting to take care of yourself - it definitely inspires others to do the same!
That opening made my beard grow. I’ve never seen such manliness
I just finished my 10th escape on Friday. I was so stoked to see this pop into my feed. I'm glad to see I still have some stuff to look forward to!
You, sir, are certifiably bananas. I was cool with the FF10 craziness. I was cool with the Hyrule Warriors madness...but this! This is something special. Perhaps my favorite video so far. Very well done.
I’ve always loved these corny intros man. I don’t mean that in a bad way either. It’s beautiful man I love it
Jirard is looking good lately! You can tell hes working out
Ah, of course, the classic weapons of the Ancient Greek battles, such storied artifacts of war. Sword, Spear, Shield, Bow, Gloves... and of course, GUN
This game deserved more awards, wonder if a DLC or sequal?
HELL YEAH! This video gave me the power to defeat Hades for the third time! After so many attempts. Thank u Jirard!
That score, man! It's so good. Seriously one of very few I've actually checked out on Spotify.
"...dashing Prince Zagreus"
I lol'd
Still love the video game he grabs in the intro "Eternal Defiance". someone worked hard on that art.
Just got the platinum for this, not the completion grind but I completely agree with your sentiments here. An amazing experience through the story and gameplay, but a lot of busy work near the end of it all.