Inside the Nautilus of Jules Verne: an internal arrangement for the famous sub
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- Опубликовано: 21 май 2024
- In this video, we will look at an interpretation of the Nautilus's internal layout, based on the text of '20,000 Leagues under the Sea'. You may disagree with it, but it is only one possible interpretation and others maybe equally valid, or even better. Enjoy!
Music: ‘Digital Ambient for Meditation, by Sergey Safikanov from Pixabay Music.
Underwater video by Moshe Harosh from Pixabay & boat sailing video by Life-Of-Vids from Pixabay.
Contemporary Verne illustrations by Alphonse de Neuville and Edouard Riou.
And for those who like to know these things: Mindell, David A., ‘“The Clangor of the Blacksmith’s Fray”: Technology, War, and Experience Aboard the USS Monitor’, Technology and Culture, April 1995, Vol. 36, No. 2, pp. 242-270.
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What Jules Vern was describing is a sodium fuel cell, that used sea water as its source. The electric current derived from the fuel cell, was stored in its batteries that powered the electric propulsion motor.
funny thing is this is over a hundre years old and they still can't make it work, comnsidering also that what the books tells is actualy possible.
@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec it doesn't work because it is physically nonsense. This is science fiction, not real science.
@@JoaoSoares-rs6ec The energy density of the system wouldn't be high enough to meet the requirements of a ship the Nautilus's size.
@@Jacky-zt5ch but the method is possible and works, just ignored for over a hundred years.
That's not actually what he was describing; the most common English translation botches it. It's explained better in the French, and the U.S. Naval Institute translation. They were batteries, with the sodium having to be replaced, which is why the Nautilus' homeport is inside an extinct volcano.
Regarding the issue of the tiller ropes becoming slack when the pilothouse was lowered, I don't think the Nautilus would have have used ropes in the first place. The steering was probably hydraulic or electric based. A separate motor moves the rudder and the wheel just sends variable pressure or voltage which direct that motor to turn a specific direction and amount. Ships first started using similar systems to steer in the mid to late 1800s so it's likely Nautilus would have incorporated such technology.
Given how much the Nautilus used electricity, I think steering by wire (electricity) is the most likely.
Look. You cannot have a maniacal villain without an organ to play. It’s pretty much obligatory. 🤣🤣🤣
Very well done video by the way. I loved it. 👍💪👊
Nemo was anything but maniacal. Obsessive, and driven by vengance, but methodical and analytical.
This music played on organ please: ruclips.net/video/fPLs2te49nA/видео.html
you do know that Captain Nemo saves the guys from Mysterious island, right? More than once.
@@grigturcescu6190 Yes, rather my point. He's no gibbering evil madman, but a cultured and rational man. He has a vendetta against a particular country, but has no issue rescuing people.
@@stainlesssteelfox1 Or financing revolutions. But I was replying to The comment, not to you :D
Suggestion: The airlock was likely on the bottom of the hull, because that’s how it’s been done in spy subs such as the USS Parche.
At least low in the hull so that one can walk out on a short ramp not very steep.
The best reason to have an airlock in the bottom of the hull is that the air has the most room to be above the water when transitioning and the pressure on the hatch will be uniform instead of variable as in a vertical door. With enough pressure on the inside to counteract the water pressure, it is possible to enter or leave the water without much water entering the interior of the sub.
The Nautilus has significantly more detail in the sequel novel 'Nemo Returns', where it is described as not only having 2 decks through the full length (So the dining room and lower level of the library are on the lower deck, and the upper deck of the library goes through the kitchen to the command deck), but also behind the organ is a hidden laboratory. And the airlock does indeed open down. Doesn't go into detail with the boat on the top, which seems to have been either damaged or removed during the Nautilus' refit by the daughter of the secret villain.
@@NikkiTheOtter you should make this a top level comment so he sees it!
@@PetesGuide I don't know how to do that
That was a lot of work. Well done. A lot of SF writers rarely plan out their ships properly so this is a great interpretation.
In the 1870's rotary electric motors were an immature technology; although the Nautilus was propelled by electricity , Verne's account describes the prime mover as a system “where large electromagnets actuate a system of levers and gears that transmit the power to the propeller shaft.”
So like a solenoid motor, then? That would be an interesting approach...
@@camojoe83 That's what I got from the description. Like a reciprocating steam engine, but with solenoids driving the crankshaft.
They were not mature, but by the 1870's commutated electric motors had existed for four decades, and had propelled boats for three decades.
As it later turns out, almost all of the crew die one by one to the radiation sickness. Only Captain Nemo is alive when in the Mysterious Island the castaways enter the Nautilus. So, Nautilus is some kind of nuclear sub. At least in the 1973 version. It had one of the greatest theme music of all time...
it was my understanding that would have to be a retcon developed after we developed nuclear power. I have seen versions describing it as a radiant energy drive, but earlier versions claim sodium mercury batteries, so the radiant drive too would be a post nuclear age retcon.
What radiation, the nautilus was battery powered, using sodium and Mercury.
I have a very cool collaboration to suggest for you in this endeavor: HI Sutton. He is an expert on covert submarines, and has not done anything on fictional subs. Exactly the kind of source that could help you figure out interesting ways to interpret the descriptions in the novel in a way that a nautical engineer would do.
Sutton isn’t a nautical engineer though.
@@More_Row No, but I think he’s channeling several.
Wish background music was more subdued during descriptions of internal compartments, not easy to understand what is being said.
agreed!
I am right with you there buddy.
Very interesting. Unfortunately the music drowns out the narration.
I agree, that jangling noise drowned out the speech and I gave up within five minutes.
Excellent video. As to the bit about the dining room 6:00 there would very likely have been a service passage from the galley to the Captain’s dining room. It would be awkward and unseemly for servants to serve and clear through same entry as guests. Most dining rooms of the period would have discrete access for service staff.
If it was the size of Seaquest DSV there would be room for a shopping mall
Excellent show.
What a great look into the Nautilus. Tbh, I almost felt inspiration to build it a sandbox-building game, lol.
How about the Jules Verne airship, ALBATROSS, from the 1961 film, MASTER OF THE WORLD, staring Vincent Price?... Love your work, guys. :)
Tranquility in the depths ! What a marvelous perception for the time ! Thx, excellent video. 👍
Excellent; very well done! Thank you!!!
Maybe in the next video you could discuss the lifestyles of Nemo and his crew, and how practical it would have been. I read the Signet Classics edition of 20,000 Leagues (2010 printing), and if I understood it right the ocean air drove off almost all ailments and diseases. However, I don't remember any steps taken to ward off scurvy, and when I researched some of the depths they went to in their "diving dress," they almost certainly would have ended up with decompression sickness (an unknown disease at the time).
"Decompression sickness", is originally called Caisson disease because it first showed up when building underwater bridge piers/tunnels.
Are you having audio troubles? your voice sounds a bit muffled this episode
Audio is very muddy. No "presence". Sounds like you're wearing a balaclava.
I had to give up on this, poor audio and too loud background. A wase of an otherwise interesting video :-(
I love how Disney movie made the small boat, sliding from the rear of the upper platform.
I forgot about the retractation of the wheel house, doesn't seem very practicle to me, many things can go wrong in water tight objects without adding an additional complication (first Shnorckels were prone to malfunction and inlet of water... so an entire compartment? That's unlikely)
THe Nautilus, doesn't need to go through its target, just pierce it with the reinforced bow and move out backwards, or have dented upper back and just slip beneath enemy vessels with it, the Disney movie (and others) applied that method and it seems to be the most sensible.
The other method not mentionned in the book since the Nautilus is not supposed to be a warship is to arm it with torpedoes (one TV movie did that from the 90s, the one with Mickael Caine as Nemo), no direct contact needed.
As for the protection panels on the museum room windows, if they are more or less circular, having irises like in the Disney movie is very elegant but complicated. Sure a sliding panel would be easier to implement but much less stylish.
I agree. I remember the pilot house to be sort of on the foredeck about 1/4 of the distance from the prow to the stern with 2 round windows of thick glass to be able to see and were just above the water surface when on the surface. There was a strengthening ridge along the center top of the hull.
Nautilus was armed with torpedoes too. In "Misterious Island" Nemo sunk pirate vessel whit a torpedo hit...
Disney's production designer addressed all of these issues and created a brilliant solution, all the while staying true to Walt's vision of the 19th century. Above all, everything had to be practical for live action filming with real water and create dramatic visuals that worked with the story and would be accepted by a contemporary audience in the 1950's. Note the viewing windows in the Disney film are not round, but segmented flat panels with metal framing to protect them. The iris opening and closing is inside the glass, and just acts as a curtain. The movie had the largest budget in it's time for a fantasy film, in today's money it would probably be north of 150-200M.
In the novel Captain Nemo never described how or what mechanism produced the electrical power for the Nautilus only some vague explanation so I’m convinced that the Nautilus was nuclear powered
Disney certainly hinted that it was nuclear.
If the Nautilus was nuclear, it would need boilers or steam generators which the book claimed it did not have. Also, the reactor would use super enriched fuel or else the Nautilus would need to be huge to accommodate a reactor using less enriched fuel. Furthermore, if the Nautilus was nuclear, Nemo would need access to a uranium enrichment facility whether his uranium fuel was used in the Nautilus' reactor directly or in a land-based reactor to produce transuranic elements for use in the ship's reactor. If the Nautilus used thorium, Nemo would still need an enrichment facility to manufacture fuel grade uranium to produce neutron producing elements (such as plutonium) as a neutron source for the thorium.
Probably not.
Simply because when Jules Verne wrote the novel nuclear energy was not discovered yet.
The USN USS Nautilus was named after the Disney version; Disney's contribution to the story that the Nautilus is nuclear powered.
@@iasimov5960 all true. but it certainly would look like it to a modern person. Of course most are influenced by Disney's classic movie. Perhaps he found a way to use something else. No matter; what Jules Verne though of cannot not in any way shape or form be considered anything less than extraordinarily visionary.
I wouldn't get to stuck on distances. Unless the guy had a measuring tape he was guesstimating. Estimating is questionable at best. So in my opinion they should be regarded as approximations. So you did well with the info you were given.
It does say that the Nautilus was often mistaken for a giant whale by ships that it attacked.
Nice video. As a child watching the Disney adaptation, I was always thinking of things like - where does the crew eat and sleep - what is their life like. It had to be equally above standards of the day to be so dedicated.
A comparison of the Nautilus to the Ictineo II would be interesting. The Ictineo II was of coopered wood, but had two engines, one of which produced oxygen while submerged. It was the first double-hulled design known, The inventor tried to interest Spain, Great Britain, and the US (Union) governments without any luck. This was around the time of the civil war. I suspect Verne was influenced by the ship.
Ictineo II was a great design, air independent propulsion with use of peroxyde. Very beautiful submarine!
Imagination surpasses reality. What a spacious and comfortable submarine Captain Nemo had. In a real submarine it is cramped and claustrophobic and lacks amenities for the crew and is built for one purpose only...
The Seaview.
I think the Disney version of the wheelhouse with the ramming dorsal fin is actually superior, though the bubble view-ports are probably a bit unprotected.
The boat in the deck is likely borrowed from the French pneumatic submarine Le Plongeur. That boat could not be used when submerged, but it otherwise looks right. Le Plongeur also has other similarities in shape.
I've worked with the ram/rostrum a little. If big enough (it has to be so as not to bend) one could imagine that the pilot house and the lantern would be protected by it.I hav also suggested that the five windows be arranged so that it is not possible to look right back into the lantern/flood light. It is difficult to dra in text but something shaped like a raveline (irregular pentagon). You can look back but not get blinded. Not quite 360°.
I began work on a model a few years ago but I have not had the time to really work on it.
Nicely done.
Fits nicely with my memory from the 60s Disney film. I loved that when I was a kid. "Ned Land" became my role model
Disney's Nautilus is entirely different. The Nautilus from the novel can not fit into your memories.
I have always liked Harper Goff's version in Disney's 1954 movie.
Everyone likes it, it is dramatic and unusual. Unfortunately it bears little resemblance to Verne's descriptions, in it's size, arrangements or layout, but of course since millions of people watched the movie and also failed to read the book, all assume it is an accurate representation. It isn't.
@@AncientEgyptArchitecture Disney's production designer needed to create something practical the modern audience could accept as real and concepts that would work in live action filming, for example the airlock, the boat, the wheelhouse, and how the submarine attacks other ships, all while having a 19th century look to everything. It was a brilliant piece of work and creativity; it has not dated at all and is still accepted by many as the best interpretation of the story on film. Jules Verne was not an engineer; however, he built a story around what might be possible in the near future. I understand he formulated many of his ideas and wrote chapters of the novel while traveling on The Great Eastern, parts of the interior such as the machinery spaces and the Grand Saloon, appear to be inspiration for several of his descriptions.
Very true and interesting points, I had read both books as a kid, Vern’s and the Disney adaptation after seeing the film.
Very interesting & entertaining! Though I’ve always enjoyed Disneys portrayal of the NAUTILUS ⚜ Yours was good too.
your fastidious and detail oriented work does you credit sir
The Nautilus was not a military ship, not a commercial vessel, but a luxury yacht that happen to be a submarine.
Exactly.
I absorbed practically all of Verne's books (or all that were available in the various libraries that I had access to) as a kid...and those books were illustrated by one of the Wyeth artist clan (forget which one) in the classic series f books - forget also which publisher...it's been well over 60 years since I read them...
The color plates I believe were by N.C. Wyeth in the hardbound versions, both Leagues and Mysterious Island were at my local library. A superb illustrator and designer, I think his work was superior to the contemporary B+W engravings.
@@bernieschiff5919 ...thank you...between my high school and public library I prolly read every hardback edition of Vern's books...20,00 Leagues, Mysterious Island and Micheal Strogoff for sure...those illustrations obviously made a huge impression on me...prolly read them during classes I had little/no interest in (algebra, geometry, grammar, Latin etc - I SUCKED at math) usually had the book that I was reading under the text...I was also prolly the only student banned from the library during class hours...that ban didn't last very long, though...kinda fun to look back at Verne's novels and see how his view of the future was influenced by the discoveries of the late 19th century/Victorian era
Quality stuff! Thank you. ;)
Awesome! 🌊🏄♂️🪷
This is soooo cool, just finished the book a few minutes ago (frech to german translated) and just watched the first part of These Videos. Its practical to have things visualized :D
Good stuff! Any chance of you doing other Verne megaprojects like the Columbiad moon canon or Robur the Conqueror's airship?
Very interesting. Thank You
Wow so cool!
Nemo: *jamming on the organ in the middle of the night*
Whales: "WTF?"
I’m no expert, but I’m inclined to think that churning those highly un-serrated blades anywhere near the claimed 120 rpm , the resulting blade cavitation will be so severe. It would easily make it one of the loudest, if not the loudest thing in the ocean!
Just found your channel. Great videos. I recommend doing one on the Galactica from BSG. Keep up the good work.
I would love a video on the Martian tripods from H G Wells. I know he doesn't go into much detail on them, but it would be interesting to see your interpretation.
Seconded. I love the Martian war-machines
He actually goes into plenty of detail about them. So much that he inserted a segment in later editions, roasting their depiction on one of the early cover arts. So we at least know what they didn't look like.
@@VadimKaz2001 well perhaps the version I read didn't. Then again it was fifteen years ago I last read the book, so my memory is probably pretty hazy😅
@@pyronuke4768 He very vividly describes both the tripods and other martian machines. He makes a particular point of how nimble and organic they look and move. Describing that they are moved by artificial metal muscle bundles and that overall they look more alive then martians themselves. All part of his overall message that martians are what humans would become if we devoted ourselves completely to technology.
If only I could go back in time and show Verne the movie "Das Boot". Just so he understands that live on a submarine is not tranquil, even if there is no combat around.
Glorious video of the vessel! It's clear that Nemo really squeezed the crew in though - I wonder what the compliment was?
Long ago, I read an article in a Sherlock Holmes fanzine that purported to prove (very tongue-in-cheek) that Nemo was actually Professor Moriarty. Part of the author's 'evidence' was the extreme cruelty of giving the crew such cramped quarters.
@@jamesbarrett9466 I somehow love that theory! 😁
@@MatthewCaunsfield As if Nemo’s timeline isn’t already confused enough; maybe he’s also the Master from Dr. Who.
@@jamesbarrett9466 That's the thing about time travellers, they could be anywhen!
5:07 that's if they'd all have to sleep at the same time, but if the beds are shared, perhaps in three shifts, then it's not that cramped. Plus, they're sailors, they're expected to have only a duffel bag's worth of things with them.
Nemo was definitely a hero in a half shell.
~TMNT
Wow. I'm going to like your video, not solely because of, but primarily for the referral of Claude-Joseph Vernet. Absolutely stunning art. Well done on the Verne mythology. The wheelhouse could be redundant and open to flooding when submerged, like Russian submarines.
Given available information, it is impossible to know, or if Mr. Verne himself actually knew, what the actual layout of the vessel was. That being said, bravo for your interpretation and thoughtful examination. As I lifelong sailor, I do have one observation; the rowboat. You had mentioned the possibility of a side launch under a walkway or railing. I would say that unless that section of walkway or railing were hinged that this is not viable (given the text at the end regarding the launching it also seems unlikely). I say this because the smallest sea chop/waves would make it very difficult if not impossible while on the surface to get the boat from its storage location under the rail. Just an observation, great work!
The wheelhouse probably doesn’t actually control the rudder and throttle directly. It likely does so via rudder and engine order telegraphs. The crew in the engineering spaces actually control the ship. The wheelhouse just tells them where to go.
Very good 👍
enjoyed your view
Astounding how many of those feature on modern submarines. Such as retractable planes and the airlock. "No collision to fear." USS San Francisco would disagree.
Excellent recreation, although I can't help but feel that there's still some wasted space that could be used for so much more, especially with the library & dining room taking up so much room. Granted, Captain Nemo was a rich Indian prince with his own genius & sense of style, although for all his brilliance there was some oversight, namely the lack of medical quarters and emergency room. At least Admiral Nelson's sub Seaview from Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea made up for lack of one with a larger size.
Now, if I were to design a submarine - provided of course that the outer hull would be strong & thick enough to take massive sea-mine/torpedo impacts or extreme depths that would crush a regular submarine, without the interior hull being breached - I would allow enough space for the crew to sleep and move about without feeling claustrophobic while making sure that every inch of the ship is not wasted. For one thing, the captain and crew quarters would have to be more in the center of the ship to avoid the people getting injured by impact.
Does the wheelhouse retract all the way down? I seem to recall reading that it retracts _some_ of the way, but still sticks out enough for a helmsman to be able to see.
Got one of the albatross from master of the world or Robur the conqueror?
What makes a supervilain convince his minions to sacrifice their lives for him?
That part is always left out of origin stories.
Captain Nemo was NO villain. It was a hero and commander for his men. A villain for the fuck'n english occupants, a hero for local indian people. For Jules Verne, who was french ( archennemy of british !!) Nemo was a personification of a freedom fighter , not a villain...
I wouldn't count Nemo as a supervillain. His morals are maybe somewhat questionable, but he seems to have both wicked and noble traits. Now where it ultimately balances out is a good question. As to your question, as it applies here, there are any number of disaffected men who would gladly leave society for the promise of something better under the sea. Some might desire revenge, like Nemo himself. Others might just be curious. Still others might be stuck in a poor position and wish to get out. Since Nemo isn't a straightforward villain, this is a lot easier to imagine.
Perhaps in some future video, you could do an exploration into another JulesVerne vehicle: the airship Albatross from the novel Master of the World- Robor the Conqueror.
very nice video...
since I 1st saw the disney film, 2nd read mysterious island, and only after that read the book i noticed some very big timeline / continuity mistakes... for that i never tried to figure out a internal arrangment because i assumed there might be some of these there too...
This Nautilus has got a lot of buoyancy...
Which translated version of the book do you recommend?
absolutely appreciate your video. just one thing, though: professor's name is Aronnax, not Annorax...cheers,π.
Thats one interpretation, but i think the layout would need to vastly different. As far as the wheelhouse "retracting" into the hull, i think that is one feature that was never intended. If you look at the original model of the Nautilus, she had something of a saw-blade kind of boom that extended centerline upward from the main hull, to the top of the wheelhouse. I would imagine that was foundationally intentional.
The wheel house might well be connected to operating controls throughout the ship by rigid sleeved cables (think bicycle brake) or a better solution would be hydraulic couplings, as hydraulic systems date back to the early 1800s and at least as early as 1795
Where was the team located? Where were food, equipment, trophies stored? The Nautilus would have to be the size of a modern nuclear submarine. And nothing less!
You forgot the circuitry room where the captured gorilla wanders into and causes a bunch of explosions.
And causes the submarine to nose dive into the same scenery, as in Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea?
It's a lot of work but physically speaking , unless the nautilus is built with technologies we dont have today, it's still unrealistic.
1. There are no ballast compartments. A sub uses ballasts to move from the surface to the underwater. Without that the Archimed principle wjll prevent it from diving.
2. The batteries need to be recharged which can only be recharged by another power source such as diesel generators which needs to function when the nautilis is on the surface of near enough to get fresh air inside.
3. Some kind of air purifying system for the people onboard to keep breathing since we consume O2 and reject CO2. I'm not sure if that's what you were mentioning by "airlock".
1. Unlike modern submarines, Nautilus seems to have ballast tanks internally. All the bottom part under engine room, dining room, drawing room and so on was divided between batteries and ballast tanks.
2. It seems that captain Nemo invented some sort of batteries that could be recharged by simply replacing some chemicals in them. AFAIR, in the book they are described as Natrium batteries.
3. Also, AFAIR, in the book, Nautilus had to surface every day a couple of hours to refresh its internal air. And there was no air purifying system. It was considered enough air for the crew a whole day. In the book, when Nautilus was trapped under ice, they struggled with air, especially CO2 contaminated air. Airlock was simply a device to leave the submarine while submerged (of course, using a diving suit). As they did when hunting around Crespo Island.
@CipiRipi-in7df thanks for these informations, it makes much more sense 🫡
In the book, he generates electricity by trailing wires of different lengths. You may have a copy of the early American translation that omits all of the technical details.
@@thhseeking ... no, I had a Romanian translation that had all these details.
In that book, Nemo describe to prof. Aronax that he could get electricity by trailing wires at different depths but this would hampered his moves and would be also too weak for any meaningful use.
In the same chapter, Nemo say he use sodium / mercury batteries, which generate electricity as long sodium is not depleted, but they are "recharged" by simply adding sodium. Which was produced on his "secret base" (mentioned more detailed in "The mysterious island"), by using coal heat.
I don't know why it's a mystery that posture has a cumulative effect upon cranial nerve X and the cranial sacral outflow which affects every organ in the body including parastalsis.
I did not know you had as Titan video
Where are the crew quarters, dining halls etc.
I would love to have Fanhome make this model.
I want one.
It's a good thing that Verne was writing fiction, since none of the claims in the opening are actually true of real submarines. For instance, while they're generally steel, fire is still a real concern.
Typhoons had a sauna and cold plunge pool.
my only complaint is how muffled the audio is.
Verne was vastly ahead of its time, much like Nikola Tesla!
That sub would have been uncontrollable. He probably based it on one or more contemporary French submarines, which had one set of planes amidships. He probably didn't know that those early subs were almost uncontrollable because of the one set of planes. They tried adding extra sets, but I don't think that they were movable. They made no difference.
Tesla wasn't ahead of anything. His work in induction motors was original, meaning that he didn't copy anyone, but it had already been done by others.
If he had any idea how weak iron is compared to ocean depths. Like cheap balsa wood.
I'm confused about where the crew stayed.
Es verdad todo lo que se cuenta porque a mí me llamaron tres veces para aparentar los tornillos.
Однажды перечитывая "20 тысяч лье под водой" поймал себя на мысли, что конструкция Наутилуса должна быть предельно защищённой от всяких выступов. Это огромная торпеда. Причем, если у нее что и выступает, то это рубка управления и то временно. Так что чудесные макеты и картинки с гребнями и т.п. не соответствуют собственно конструкции этой подлодки.
Второе, что интересно, Наутилус никаких средств поражения не несет, сам являясь таковым. Третье, что удивило, это в книге указаны размеры лодки. В эти размеры поместить рисунки Роу трудно. По художнику, Наутилус, в сущности дворец, в то время, как он имеет размеры примерно дизельной лодки. Ко всему он имеет предельно обтекаемые сигарообразные обводы, иначе его корпус просто застрял бы при пробитиии корпуса фрегата. Что же про последнюю стоянку лодки внутри острова в пещере, то этот сюжет Жюль Верн использовал еще раз в книге "флаг родины".
Под конец чуточку забавного. В первых изданиях с полным переводом гарпунер Нэд все время, пока идут поиски "кита", валятся в каюте с книжкой. Это значит, что он у Жюля Верна не тупая сила, а грамотный и развитый член экипажа, явно выше по культуре остальных матросов. Почему-то в дальнейшем эта деталь пропала и гарпунер стал буйным животным, которого Аронакс то и дело ставит на место. А ведь в наличии конфликт между Аронаксом - теоретиком подводного мира и практиком - Нэдом. Один его изучает, другой добывает, но добывает не тупо, а с интересом к жизни морских обитателей. Два подхода, два мира. Мир науки и мир наживы, для которой наука средство повысить продуктивность добычи. Вообще, весь роман построен на этом противоречии, но начинается он с самого начала книги.
Where are the ballast tanks?
The retracting bridge/wheelhouse may not have been as complicated. In the original versions of the Nautilus, the bow of the ship had a serrated iron spine up front that angled upwards that seemed to be reinforced. Since it was intended for attacks against wooden hulls, and with it's saw tooth nature, it would be an effective weapon against the hulls of wooden surface ships if a proper glancing blow. In the original 20,000 Leagues, she would simply ram the underside of the surface ships:
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I rather like how it's depicted in the Disney movie. Though I can imagine they fudged a few measurements of things to make for a decent set. I'd be interested in him running that design of it, and correcting it to make it work.
@@cobrag0318 True, in the Disney version it looks cleaner and a bit more of a fantasy thing mixed with a bit of modern reality. A also agree on the measurements. I mean...he didn't give us an exact design blue print. My one difficulty is that in no case did Jules Verne make allowances for torpedo type capability...only the ability to ram the victim and the Disney Nautilus just does not look like the "monster" it would be. The version in the video clip actually looks like some sort of sea creature from the depths. I too would love to see the design revamped to be functional at the ramming concept.
@@meme9492 I mean, Disney's looked more wicked than the one shown here, as well as looked more steampunk. I'll admit, the example shown here is just a very basic example for visualization of a possible interior plan. But to see him figure out how to place an interior plan over the Disney version would be neat. Also, there was like 2 versions done as made for TV movies in the 90s. 1 was as expected crap, but the other was quite well done iirc. I think 1 was a SciFi channel movie, before they rebranded and became crap, and the other on TNT maybe. It's been a while, but I think I recorded the good one on VHS. I shall have to dig it out and watch it again. That version of the nautilus was wicked looking too. And while not book accurate, the iris instead of shutters for the windows was an excellent use of license.
What you're describing is *not* the original version of the Nautilus. You're describing the Disney version.
By today's standards, this submarine is just a little baby
Where’s the ram?
Where did the crew bunk and eat? Add another 100 feet.
Sounds like a modern day nuclear powered submarine.
The Nautilus shown in this video has a screw with four blades. It needs a screw with an odd number of blades otherwise the ship would be very noisy both outside and to the crew inside the hull. Five would be good; seven would be better.
Come on warp drive!
Nice concept, but the audio is a major problem. It sounds like someone speaking underwater.
You missed one critical detail: the pilot house does not move vertically. It slides across the roof of the salon/museum. Also, Monsieur Vernes math was off. The nautilus was 2500 tons, not 1500. A proper design analysis of the provided dimemsions easily leaves room for an entire 2nd level with in the hull
Ntot based on the Disney Nautilus...
Where is the atomic reactor? The Nautilus was powered by it according to the book.
Nope. Electric storage batteries.
You are apparently thinking of the Disney movie, not the Verne novel.
@@brianb-p6586 I will read the book again just to make sure.
@@onetruekeeper frankly, I have not read the novel... but it was published decades before physicists developed the theories that allowed them to develop nuclear power. The concept of an atom's nucleus would not have been known to Verne.
@@brianb-p6586 Verne’s books were considered ahead of his time. He predicted time travel, journey to the moon in a spacecraft, submarines powered by nuclear energy and so forth.
Nice reference to Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Interesting video and design work, however the constant background noise is too loud and irritating covering your already low voice, I hope your other videos are not like that!
YOU SHOULD GET A HEARING AID DEVICE!!!
Lots of fun but the soundtrack often drowns out the narration
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You failed to explain how the wheelhouse remains watertight when retracted; a common failure in online explanations of Verne's design.
How would you explain it, then? I don't see this as being particularly constructive or relevant if you don't have an explanation yourself.
Now, it's been a very long time since I've read the book, but I think that one possibility is that the pilot house does not retract at all, and is protected by an iron fin. The Disney version seems to take this route. Now, if retraction is mentioned, then there are a couple of different possibilities. In the case of this video, where there is a compartment under the wheel house, I think in this case the wheel house doesn't have to be watertight, at least when retracted. The compartment is watertight, and has a hatch that can be sealed. After this compartment is sealed, the compartment is pressurized using compressed air, to a pressure equal to outside water pressure. At this point, the wheel house is retracted, and the air pressure keeps the water out, even if there is no seal around the wheel house. I don't know if the wheel house could actually be sealed with a sliding seal, as while those do exist I'm not sure it would work on something that large, or if such a seal would be available figuring the time period.
Now, after the wheel house has been retracted, the opening in the hull might be sealed with a hatch. But, I don't think so. Considering the wheel house only needs to be retracted for short periods of time, keeping the compartment pressurized would be perfectly fine.
But, what about sealing the wheel house when it is extended? Now, this is something I am not sure of. I think the wheel house is locked into its position by some kind of screw lock, not unlike the breach of a naval gun. There are other possibilities, including locking bolts and an inflatable seal between the hull and pilot house. But these are just some quick ideas.
Don't look anything like shown in books and movies
It looks pretty much as described in the book. Forget movies.
No carbon fiber body...
The Spanish
Ictíneo" submarine engine and oxygen system were far more advance than that been suggested by this anglo-enduced video.