The Tobey Trilogy Isn't As Good As You Think...

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @davemac9563
    @davemac9563 Месяц назад +24

    You’re right. It’s even better than I remember.

  • @SeanChukwuezi
    @SeanChukwuezi Месяц назад +11

    William dafoe lowkey had the toughest performance in the first movie he had to be intimidating and scary while wearing a goofy mask and costume and he succeeded jk simmons is ideal casting as jj jamerson

  • @christiancarpenter5567
    @christiancarpenter5567 Месяц назад +8

    I dont think spiderman 3 was the worst, the goofy moments suck, but I love the symbiote spiderman scenes, as specially how it makes him hurt others he loves, and then he has a whole repentance ark by tearing the suit off. which that scene literally hits so close to home when ive hurt someone I love.

  • @theepicdude0002
    @theepicdude0002 Месяц назад +26

    You’re right. It’s better.

    • @Anomaly_Files18
      @Anomaly_Files18 Месяц назад +3

      Nah, the only good Tobey movie is the 2nd one, other than that they aren't that good.

  • @jp3813
    @jp3813 Месяц назад +8

    To be fair, Roger Ebert almost had the same opinion as you. He praised Spidey 2 to the heavens, also loved TASM1, but disliked Spidey 1 & 3. As for the MCU, I believe Incredible Hulk & Thor were the only ones he didn't like before his passing.

  • @IAMKEY-oy5mr
    @IAMKEY-oy5mr Месяц назад +3

    I never realized how funny and ruthless aunt may is in the original trilogy. 😂😂 Like she straight up just doesnt care

    • @ArishemTheJudge-19
      @ArishemTheJudge-19 Месяц назад

      Exactly. People will be out here saying MCU Aunt Mai is the worst

  • @psychosis8429
    @psychosis8429 Месяц назад +2

    I love these movies and always have since they came out when I was a kid. Spiderman 2 is still my favorite spiderman movie of all time followed by TASM 1 and Tobey Maguires suit is my favorite spiderman costume ever. I even really enjoy spiderman 3 and these movies especially spiderman 2 when I'm feeling down or depressed. It always gets me back up again.

  • @MoviesAreDope420
    @MoviesAreDope420 Месяц назад +5

    the The Cosmonaut Variety Influence is felt. Enjoying the video (and loved that apology after the first Spiderman 😂)

    • @MoviesAreDope420
      @MoviesAreDope420 Месяц назад +1

      Agree to disagree on the MJ stuff for 2&3, but I get where you're coming from. Fun video

  • @ExoticZah
    @ExoticZah Месяц назад +5

    Mid take, not letting you cook nothing. Spider-Man 2 is far from mid

  • @anthonypastor7194
    @anthonypastor7194 Месяц назад +3

    I know you’re just a cosmonaut dupe, but that guy doesn’t post enough so you have my attention. Subscribed!

  • @arisparker4377
    @arisparker4377 Месяц назад +2

    Can't criticize anything, man. Look at these comments.

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад +1

      Well yeah, they are just a bunch of fanboys/fangirls corrupted by nostalgia. Except for Spider Man 2.

    • @pheas
      @pheas 27 дней назад

      yh except these criticisms r terrible

  • @dennisthesuperengine7047
    @dennisthesuperengine7047 Месяц назад +1

    Everyone has a different opinion and I respect your ranking.
    Also I'm something of an TASM fan myself, I still want the third one...

  • @Imflashguys
    @Imflashguys Месяц назад +4

    I love tasm and tasm2 alot more than the next guy but tasm2 is not beter than far from home or spider man 2002 but your ranking is interesting opinions so i respect it

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      on a writing level ffh is worse 😂

    • @Imflashguys
      @Imflashguys Месяц назад

      @@pheas how 🤔

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@Imflashguys mysterio, peter, & the drones all have massive issues

    • @Imflashguys
      @Imflashguys Месяц назад

      @pheas mysterio is a better villain than the green goblin tom isn't a better peter than Andrew but the plot is far better I will admit its the weakest of the mcu trilogy but I'm not letting that or my nostalgia for tasm2 blind me to the fact it's just a beter film writing wise and villain wise

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@Imflashguys yea dont care, mysterio & his drones are awful, peter is character assassinated, the ending makes no sense, edith is a terrible op piece of tech that peter is not responsible with, & tonys character is damaged, ffh is the worst written spider-man movie to date, cope

  • @TonyQuinn
    @TonyQuinn 18 дней назад

    Why do people get personally offended whenever someone criticizes this trilogy? Sam Raimi probably isn’t one of your friends or family members lol.

  • @alexandernader1188
    @alexandernader1188 Месяц назад +1

    9.5 and being under the tasum is crazy

  • @OutOfIdeas9977
    @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад +2

    As someone who watched the Tobey movies first, I respect you for your opinion.

  • @mad44avalanchee
    @mad44avalanchee Месяц назад

    They are just perfect

  • @alexandernader1188
    @alexandernader1188 Месяц назад +2

    Nahhhh crazy opinion but I still love your videos keep it up

  • @PoeticPlug-14q
    @PoeticPlug-14q Месяц назад

    Spiderman 2 is still the best Spiderman movie out there nevertheless

    • @pheas
      @pheas 27 дней назад

      no it isn’t ☠️

  • @Mrsircontent
    @Mrsircontent Месяц назад +5

    You’ve gotta be like 15 years old

    • @v7str
      @v7str Месяц назад +2

      why do people always have the urge to mention someone's age when they criticize old movies. (btw, i dont hate the vid, it just has some dumb points)

  • @jackofalltraits2145
    @jackofalltraits2145 23 дня назад

    I love the Raimi trilogy as much as the next fan but I respect your opinion. In my mind, the trilogy is pretty close to being perfect. They just needed a few tweaks:
    Spider-Man 1:
    1. Include all the extra content in the novelization
    2. Improve the visual effects specifically for Green Goblin
    3. Touch up some of the more comic-bookey dialogue ("It's you who's out Goby! Out of your mind!")
    4. Give the movie with the same aspect ratio and color grading as Spider-Man 2
    5. Give Mary Jane more agency in the action scenes (have her throw rocks or shine the barges search light on the Goblin)
    6. Showcase more of Peter's extraordinary intelligence (how he deals with Green Goblin)
    7. Showcase more of Peter's bitter rage at the world for picking on him
    8. Showcase more of Peter's charisma (especially under the mask)
    Spider-Man 2:
    1. Include all the extra content from the extended cut
    2. Include all the extra content in the novelization
    3. Improve some of the wonky the visual effects specifically for CGI Doc Ock
    4. Give Mary Jane more agency in the action scenes (have her help Peter stop Doc Ock and the reactor)
    5. Showcase more of Peter's extraordinary intelligence (how he takes down the fusion reactor)
    6. Showcase more of Peter's bitter rage at the world for picking on him
    7. Showcase more of Peter's charisma (especially under the mask)
    Spider-Man 3:
    1. Include all the extra content from the extended cut
    2. Include all the extra content in the novelization
    3. Improve some of the wonky the visual effects specifically for CGI Peter and Harry
    4. Have Mary Jane help Peter and Harry in the final fight (Gwen and a bunch of civilians will be held hostage instead)
    5. Make Venom bulkier and give him a more intimidating voice
    6. Don't kill Venom off and instead burry the symbiote beneath the construction site
    If you just made those tweaks and additions, I'ed say this trilogy would be a certified 10/10 in my mind. But as they are, they are a solid 9/10 to me.

  • @kingchurros9021
    @kingchurros9021 Месяц назад +2

    W list

  • @jackmclaughlin9602
    @jackmclaughlin9602 Месяц назад

    It’s better than I remember

  • @Aisubun
    @Aisubun Месяц назад +1

    Playing with fire by saying anything negative about these movies on RUclips, have you seen the replies to Cosmonaut's video on it

    • @RenZe016
      @RenZe016  Месяц назад

      @@Aisubun I apologized 🥲

  • @mag0711A
    @mag0711A Месяц назад +1

    "She basically tells him 'like, you're kind of a piece of shit but it's alright'".
    I'm sorry, but how is aunt May saying that she's proud of Peter, that he did a brave thing in telling her, and that she loves him, close to what you described?

    • @RenZe016
      @RenZe016  Месяц назад

      @@mag0711A I think she should’ve told him that it wasn’t his fault. Instead she says “water under the bridge” and tells him she loved him rather than make him feel better abt it. But idk that’s just they way that it felt for me :)

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@RenZe016it waa his fault tho?☠️

    • @v7str
      @v7str Месяц назад

      ​​@@RenZe016look man, I know people have opinions, I won't judge u cause of it but u do realize that what YOU said in the vid is FAR wrong from what Aunt may actually stated, it's part of the acting, if u watched the entire clip with ur ears and eyes you'll understand, again, this is just my opinion.

  • @jamesportal14
    @jamesportal14 Месяц назад +10

    Cosmonaut clone

    • @kxrma4375
      @kxrma4375 Месяц назад

      So?

    • @jamesportal14
      @jamesportal14 Месяц назад

      @@kxrma4375 be original

    • @ExoticZah
      @ExoticZah Месяц назад +2

      @@jamesportal14exactly this is mid

    • @kxrma4375
      @kxrma4375 Месяц назад

      @@jamesportal14 if u don’t like it just don’t watch wtf. Ur comment serves no purpose

    • @kxrma4375
      @kxrma4375 Месяц назад

      @@ExoticZah And ur content is just multiversus gameplay lmao u shouldn’t even talk about being original😂

  • @DanielKariuki-er5gi
    @DanielKariuki-er5gi Месяц назад +1

    1:27 What are you talking about? I think sometimes Toby is a terrible actor but he's a great Peter Parker because he's nerdy and he likes Mary Jane and these are good first portrayals of the characters in live-action they all look exactly like the characters the only problem is that they could have hired younger people Mary looks 30 and Flash looks 38 I'm not saying it's a perfect movie though it has it's flaws.

    • @thedefinitionisthis
      @thedefinitionisthis Месяц назад +2

      Having grown up on the comics and cartoons, I always found Tobey's portrayal FAR too meek and soft spoken. Peter Parker is nerdy, yes... But that doesn't mean he's hapless and socially inept. I think they pushed that too far with Tobey's, and it gets to a point that he doesn't have any attitude or quips when he's under the mask. I read Spider-Man comics and watch the cartoons, and I see how much of a sense of humor Spider-Man has there; with the Raimi films, that charm and humor is completely non-existent.

    • @LiIium
      @LiIium Месяц назад

      tobey is NOT nerdy, i have no idea why they filmed him because he doesnt fit the criteria that well to the original image of spiderman, and i dont think (at least in the spiderman movies) he has been that great of an actor. the movies are decent, but i dont like the blind praise.

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@thedefinitionisthisthis is untrue

  • @alexandernader1188
    @alexandernader1188 Месяц назад

    “First movie I watched in the big screen” liar it came out in 2002

  • @pytnon3365
    @pytnon3365 Месяц назад +2

    The title about made me report you for premoting terrorism

  • @HH-sn5qp
    @HH-sn5qp Месяц назад

    Not watching this video cuz he’s my goat

  • @tee_gard
    @tee_gard Месяц назад +1

    i don't agree

  • @hlmkrhaw
    @hlmkrhaw Месяц назад +2

    Cosmonaut did it first and better stop taking double markys ideas!

  • @carinofonseca
    @carinofonseca Месяц назад +2

    Troll 💀😂

  • @GoofyGoob42
    @GoofyGoob42 Месяц назад +1

    I never thought the Tobey Maguire Spider-Man movies were good to begin with ngl

  • @Red_beansß
    @Red_beansß Месяц назад

    Knew it

  • @ExoticZah
    @ExoticZah Месяц назад +1

    Mid take

  • @mikesmith339
    @mikesmith339 Месяц назад +3

    7:23 .. in defense of the character that’s usually how women act 😅

    • @sethking1399
      @sethking1399 Месяц назад

      Fails to take into account that Peter kissed another woman as Spider-Man, but yeah she’s just mad at him for no reason.

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      stereotyping women to defend a fictional piece of media, ur a disappointment

    • @mikesmith339
      @mikesmith339 Месяц назад

      @@pheas not being able to take a joke…. I’m sure you are your father’s disappointment

    • @v7str
      @v7str Месяц назад

      @@mikesmith339 wrong.

    • @mikesmith339
      @mikesmith339 Месяц назад

      @@pheas bro stop being your fathers disappointment , recognize a joke and move on …

  • @Thedarkknight27474
    @Thedarkknight27474 Месяц назад

    Wrong very wrong

  • @FriendlyDirt
    @FriendlyDirt Месяц назад +2

    Na it’s just as bad as I remember. You people have just let nostalgia cloud every emotion, those movies are terribly written and are TERRIBLY acted

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      they are better written than TASM & the home trilogy LMAO

    • @v7str
      @v7str Месяц назад

      @@FriendlyDirt to be fair, those movies are old, especially the ones from the 2000s, those movies weren't really bad, just the cgi was a lil wonky but ofc that's understandable since it was the 2000s, overall, the movies aren't horribly written, they're just good (opinion wise)

    • @FriendlyDirt
      @FriendlyDirt Месяц назад

      @@v7str being old does not forgive being terrible. Is hitler suddenly a cool guy cause he’s 100?

    • @FriendlyDirt
      @FriendlyDirt Месяц назад

      @@pheas maybe better written than the TASM movies, but not the home movies, and they’re certainly not better acted

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@FriendlyDirt yes they are😭☠️☠️ homecoming doesn’t even compare to sm3 on a writing level, & its the best in the trilogy☠️

  • @Angelo20093
    @Angelo20093 Месяц назад

    How is it not good?

    • @Aisubun
      @Aisubun Месяц назад

      i love the idea of clicking on a review that discusses the flaws of popular movies and then just commenting "but how is it bad though"
      like no response to the points bad just a read of the title without actually engaging in the argument LOL

    • @Angelo20093
      @Angelo20093 Месяц назад

      @@Aisubun What?

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад

      @@Angelo20093watch the video bro

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@Aisubun i agree with the original comment being braindead, but these points are terrible & misrepresent the films & their characters, with no elaboration beyond surface level statements (i have a vid on my channel that debunks everything in this video)

    • @v7str
      @v7str Месяц назад

      @@Angelo20093 pretty sure they're saying ur comment is braindead or it just made no sense to ask on how it was bad, just guesses🤷🏽‍♂️

  • @dupersuper6516
    @dupersuper6516 Месяц назад +2

    Sometimes i think there's youtubers who make videos like this just for the negative attention?
    I can hang with the well articulated ones, they're fun and challenging, and really force you to think deeper about the topic.
    This feels like imitating the more conflict inducing elements of internet discourse in the vein of one or two specific youtubers.
    Pass

    • @pheas
      @pheas Месяц назад

      @@Majinkennn except all of his opinion hinges on misinterpreting the films & characters, its not even an "opinion" when hes stating flat out wrong information

  • @krishp1104
    @krishp1104 Месяц назад

    I grew up on the trilogy and when I rewatched it for NWH it was absolute mid cheeks. TASM is superior for sure

  • @twinesniper8247
    @twinesniper8247 Месяц назад

    I think you have auTASM

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад

      As someone who actually has autism, This is both funny but also isn’t.

  • @RAHULTMNT100
    @RAHULTMNT100 Месяц назад +1

    stings doesnt it

  • @redrox3312
    @redrox3312 Месяц назад

    You’re right. It’s even better

  • @veerpatel9910
    @veerpatel9910 Месяц назад +1

    Terrible analysis but your opinion is your own 🤷‍♂️

  • @matthewlee4834
    @matthewlee4834 Месяц назад +1

    Rage bait?

  • @angrybirdsnostalgicfan
    @angrybirdsnostalgicfan Месяц назад

    Wrong

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад

      Wrong what?

    • @angrybirdsnostalgicfan
      @angrybirdsnostalgicfan Месяц назад

      @@OutOfIdeas9977 the video

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад

      @@angrybirdsnostalgicfan what exactly was wrong?

    • @angrybirdsnostalgicfan
      @angrybirdsnostalgicfan Месяц назад

      @@OutOfIdeas9977 a lot of it was nitpicks and or incorrect arguments

    • @OutOfIdeas9977
      @OutOfIdeas9977 Месяц назад

      ⁠@@angrybirdsnostalgicfanI’m going to edit this comment at least a few times probably so here we go:
      His point where everyone looks like they are in their 30s maybe 40s is actually kinda true. The entire thing about the scenes with Peter and Ben feeling weak, and not at all impactful are somewhat correct, especially with the fact that they’ve all become huge memes to the point where it feels like it’s like it’s just a huge joke. His argument about MJ in all the movies is pretty valid. If you search a video regarding MJ called “Most Toxic Woman EVER” by DerekFDB, you’ll know why. Considering the fact that The public considered the CGI in Spider Man 1 to be Trash back in the day does give This guy a pass about complaining about it.
      I do somewhat disagree with Aunt May kind of sucking in Spider Man 2 movie but I might need to rewatch that movie.
      The first several points with MJ and Peter sucking in Spider Man 3 are also pretty true. The argument about The New Goblin in Spider Man 3 is kind of whatever. Venom is the worst part of Spider Man 3, change my mind.

  • @-Anonymous-.
    @-Anonymous-. Месяц назад +2

    Basic opinions. As soon as I heard: “Everyone looks old”
    80s, 90, & 2000’s high schoolers all look OLD.
    Enjoy the view count, time to click off the video 🥱