*Neutral fascists authoritarian. Batman👿🦇🌑,Martian Manhunter👿🐉🌑 and Green Lantern👿🖤💚🌑 are Dark. Dark doesn't equate evil, The Justice Lords are an evil Justice League from another reality
@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 I don't think "fascist" means what you think it means. Or "authoritarian." On a tangential note, Renegade Cut once described Batman, as seen in The Dark Knight, as a depiction of fascism. That was the moment I knew he was off his nut.
@@SaltpeterTaffy Very few people that use the word Fascist actually know the meaning. Though the use of fear as a means of control is part of Fascism, just not the only one.
I like how Batman doesn't interfere when Flash is talking to The Trickster either, he respects that this is Wally's city and lets him handle his villain his way.
Batman is really respectful of that sort of thing. It helps that its his rule as well. "Dont come to gotham and interfere without being invited and we do things my way here." So yeah, he is going to give the same respect to his fellows who make it clear they have their own way to handle things in their turf.
I'm a dementia nurse and how Flash talks to Trickster is how I talk to my clients. He's really got a heart of gold. also I actually think Trickster has dementia.
My grandma didn't had dementia, but she did ended up with Alzheimer, which ends up being almost the same in a way, it was hard for me, specially because I was quite young back then, like fourteen or fifth teen, she died like 2 years ago, I had to muster the calmness I never had and sometimes didn't had the energy to do, I was almost alone dealing with her since my brothers and sister weren't almost in home, my mom was working so, it was up to me, she got to live COVID up until the situation stabilize, and still I couldn't see her on the hospital or open the coffin to hold her hand, it was sad, it left a void on me, and honestly I don't think I have resolved it yet, but I'm working on it and I think I'm better. I do understand flash and you guys, and I want to say to you all that you are strong willed and wonderful, keep doing what you do and live good
I believe it's implied to be bipolar disorder. The "You're off you're meds again"/"I take em if I start feeling down"/" You know that's not how the medicine works" part refers to a common problem that some bipolar folks struggle to stay on thier medication during mania because, unlike depression, mania feels good and they're losing thier ability for self control. And the "James, you're wearing the suit again"/"I am? Well what do ya know." and the sudden switch to wanting to play darts point towards manic psychosis where they can start losing touch with reality when the mania isn't being treated.
It's people like you who I really respect. People who's willing to spend their whole working carrier taking care of the weakest in society with little to no reward other then the experience itself. My older cousin takes care of mentally and physically incapable, the kinds who's got no future life of their own, and she does it with stride. She and you got one hell of a heart
I think Wally appreciates the little things because his mind moves so fast that everyone else moves slow. It’s his way to cling to the moment instead of moving past it.
Doesnt happen like that anymore. Speed Forces matches him to people but also kicks in like a sort of spider sense when something is moving a certain speed or higher to him. So like talking to normal people is fine but if a gun is shot near him time slows down to a crawl for him.
I always felt that, deep down, Flash represented everything that Batman wanted to be. He had the sense of duty like Wonder Woman, the call of a greater purpose like Green Lantern, the need to help others like Superman, but he did it all for the simple reason of him wanting to do right by people. My headcanon was that Batman saw in Flash what he saw in himself when he was a kid. Just someone who wanted to do the right thing for no other reason than it helped other people.
That does explain why Batman takes to Flash quicker than the others of the League. Also why most iterations also have Batman take Flash under his wing, like the Justice League movie. Flash is living out what Batman wanted to live out, but couldn't due to what happened in his own life.
0:04 "Finish your drink, and then turn yourself in." That is still a weirdly wholesome moment from this show, and the crazy part is that it seemed to work!
I love that they have Batman smile at 16:30 as Flash says, "You know what I call that, a really good day." It shows that he actually understands what Flash is all about
@Vathorean This is sad because I've seen this episode numerous times and I didn't notice that detail until I read your comment. A tiny detail that says a lot about Batman's character and I being a Batman fan missed it for years! Dx
At some point of the 2000s before Barry Allen's story was changed to add that tragedy of his mother dying, Bruce on a confidential archive about the League he stated "Barry Allen is the kind of man I would had become if my parents weren't killed" or something like that.
@@AllTheSameSeam Barry's parents were alive in the comics until Flashpoint (2011). Reverse Flash went back in time and killed Barry's mom and framed his dad for her murder. When Barry tried to go back in time to save his mom it caused the Flashpoint timeline, so Barry just had to accept his mom being dead.
My favorite part is this line. "James, you're wearing the suit again." Alright, one, he knows his name. Two, this implies he knows enough about his condition, perhaps even took the time to research IN DEPTH about it, and- as it is implied in the line about darts, visits him occasionally/frequently.
I know his job is just a forensic scientist but that job still probably includes some knowledge of mental illnesses (figuring out what a person might have done)
so if this follows the comics for powers, all the speedsters can read a whole like 500 page book in a second. if this Flash can do this too then it's not a far strech that he knows all about his villains and what he can do help them. same with the civys of his town.
Batman knows all of his villains names, even the Joker in some interpretations of the character, and he does a lot to help, even if he does it as Bruce Wayne.
Even Batman respects flash It’s because flash doesn’t just see all villains as evil people, but also as people that were dealt a bad hand He gives everyone a fair shake, but is also willing to bring the hammer down on villains that cross the line, and in the case of Luthor he did at light speed
also because batman would love to see any of his villains getting psychiatric treatment. Imagine what the right medication could do for... ... actually I guess the only one with a flat-out chemical imbalance is the joker, and obviously that's not going to be as easy as trying different meds til you get one that works. even IF you could trust he wasn't messing with you to skew the results, his physiology is surely going to play frustrate-the-monkey with any drugs. I guess The Ventriloquist is Batman's Trickster. He cares about the guy and wants him to get help, because he's just about the most straightforward cracked one of them. most of them just need someone to be nice to them, or to get a better therapist. or in Ivy's case, she just needs a good man to take charge.
I know it's not Wally, but one of my favorite scenes in any form is media is when Barry gives Batman the letter from Thomas Wayne. Even Thomas Wayne respects the Flash
I think my favorite summary is "Flash is the Hero batman wishes he could be, but his rage gets in his way." Which explains why he shows so much compassion with Flash.
Eh. I disagree. Batman needs the fear and mystique his reputation gives him. Otherwise, he'd just be a guy in a batsuit and criminals would just realize that he can't be everywhere at once. I do agree that Flash and Superman are Batman's "'ideal" superheroes though.
@@Birthday888Yeah, Batman *wants* to be like Superman, and The Flash, but he knows it wouldn’t work in Gotham, he wants to be a symbol of hope for people, but he *knows* the best he can do, is be a symbol of fear to the criminals. Hence why he has so much respect for Wally and Clark
I adore the Trickster scene. It shows that Wally not only wants to help anyone but he KNOWS that Trickster is not an actual threat, that he's just a sick man and the way he said he'll visit him at the hospital to play darts? Sounds like it wouldn't be the first time.
This is those kind of moments that makes me love the flash. Not the multiversial events, not the big story involving time travel, but the moments where we see what makes him a hero. He understands who he is fighting, and tries to help them as much as he can.
Wouldn’t say he’s not a threat considering he acquired potent acid for a snot gun but he’s one of the villains that can be talked down into not even firing a shot
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer This is part of why flash is an incredible superhero, he can and will stop people without violence. Central city was many time said to be a utopia, cause flash is the perfect superhero to stop crime effectively.
One interesting note about Wally's relationship with his villains, at least in the comics, is that apparently he's much more well-liked by them than Barry was. The Rogues at several points have noted that Barry kind of had a stick up his ass and didn't really try that much to banter with them or get along compared to Wally. That and a lot of them have known Wally since he was just Kid Flash and are still kinda like "aw, lookit the little kiddo go" so they don't go as hard on him.
The Trickster has bipolar. The Flash knows this. His manic delusions make him a "villain". His meds keep him sane. The Flash knows that if the suit is on, he's off his meds. An ass kicking isn't gonna fix that. I appreciate that in the Flash. It's not just the talking that brings this guy to justice, it's the fact that the Flash know such an intimate detail about his villain and can help steer him in the right direction again even if he isn't clear of mind. God knows what he knows about the other villains. I love it 😊❤
I love the idea of a hero being so goddamn likable, that even the villains who want to destroy him can’t help but hang out with them every once in a while.
Shit your right, now that I think about it the majority of villains that ever tried to straight up kill him were apart of another hero’s rogues gallery.
There’s actually a comic about how most of Flash’s rogues know there’s an unspoken rule where they don’t take it too far. They’re professional thieves and know that as long as they don’t put civilians in too much danger or go for the kill that they Flash considers them more a minor rivalry and will drop them off at the police station at worst. As long as they don’t cross the line, it’s just business as usual.
One thing I noticed about Lord Batman was that when the canon Justice League is captured, he’s cold and indifferent with them except for Flash which he actually tries to talk to even though Flash was dismissive of him And when Flash pretended to have some sort of cardiac attack, Lord Batman genuinely and visibly *freaks out*
not just that, the point of divergence between the justice league and the justice lords was the flash being executed by lex luthor. the flash dying was the turning point where everything went wrong. really shows what a grounding influence wally was for the league
I like to think that there are two specific reasons Batman likes the flash so much Firstly, Flash is the most honest and fourth coming of all the hero’s. He hides nothing because he has nothing to hide. While the Bat gets along with all hero’s and even sees Supes as his best friend (even if he would never admit to it) he always has to be careful around them, they all have things they hide from the world and themselves. Which means Batman can’t relax. While with the Flash there is no need for that. He can be as direct and open as he wants. And secondly, while Supes is the ultimate symbol of self sacrifice for good a hero should be, the Flash is the kind of person Batman wants to be. Open, friendly, everyone’s best friend. He’s jealous of Walley for being better at reading social situations but still happy to have him around (even if no alternate universe exists, where he will admit to that)
@@beneko1127 He sure is Because he’s not an over the top, larger than life symbol like Superman, a fear-inducing legend like Batman or the rest of unreachable paragons the rest of the Justice League is to their individual cities and the rest of the world Instead he’s a best friend who just so happens to have superpowers, but they aren’t his one defining characteristic like the rest His funny, kind and optimistic personality is
@@frankwest5388 Yeah, Bruce likes Wally due to all that but also for something else Canonically, Wally’s the youngest member of the league which would explain his hopeful view of the world He isn’t a battle-hardened, bitter adult like Batman and most of the other leaguers are Wally is just a kid who has the selfless desire of try to make the world a better place In some way, Bruce is jealous but also happy that Wally has the childhood innocence and hopefulness that he lost
That freakout was on the level you could expect from Bats of it had been Alfred, one of the Robins, or Batgirl flatlining. He’d rush to any JL’s member’s aid, but few people would make him so reckless.
While Flash certainly isn't the smartest hero, his enhanced speed DOES let him think and absorb information faster then the average person. While someone like Batman would probably use that purely as a tactical advantage, Flash seems to use it almost entirely to memorize important information about the everyday people he meets. I also LOVE that they show how much community service he does compared to other heroes. He's one of the few JL members who understands that his powers can be used for more then just punching bad guys.
Honestly, I see it the other way around. Yes, his super-speed allows him to incorporate a lot of info in no time, but said info doesn't stick (short term memory or something) and is forgotten quickly. I see this as Wally not remembering because of his superpowers, but because he makes the active effort to do so, giving it even more weight.
"isn't the smartest hero" he literally faked his heartbeat that made alternate batman think he was dead and let him out and he saved everyone(including the other heroes)
The conversation between Flash and the Trickster always makes me a tear up a bit. Trickster's not a bad guy, he's just an unwell man who wants attention, and Wally trying to get him to take better care of himself in this moment and promising to spend time with him if he does so is too wholesome.
The best part of it is that you know for a fact that Wally went and played darts with him. He went through and fit it in to do so, even if he had to put off painting that fence another weekend, and that you know that Mrs. Grain will be okay with that because she knows he's a busy hero, but that it will eventually get done. You just know, because that's the kind of guy he is.
A quote that I saw in Lego Ninjago which still stands strong with me today despite its origin is "The Best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend." This is exactly why I like that quote and why I love this episode.
When he doesn’t realise that he’s in his suit and sounds legitimately confused and surprised I can’t help but light up some charcoal on the grill, adding some fresh steak.
@@eloilopes - Mark Hamill was the Trickster waaay before the CW Flash, he was already playing James Jesse in the 1990 CBS Flash show... him playing the Trickster again was a callback to that one.
I'm not a writer but I can only imagine the pride one would feel when you create a character as iconic and beloved as Wally West, added to the Fact that he had to take up the role of another beloved and iconic character and was well received by fans from both generations. Kudos to the Creator of Wally and all the Writers and artists who've done him justice throughout the years
"The bad guys went down and nobody got hurt. I call that a really good day." Batman smiles. Gotta love the attention to detail. Not a smirk, but a real genuine smile. Thanks for doing this episode shady. Just to clarify i wasn't the guy threatening the cat. I couldn't do that.
5:40 I don't know if Orion was intimidated. The Bat glare isn't just for scaring people. It's also that disappointed look that you mom gives you that guilts you into behaving.
Wally talking to the trickster in the bar honestly made me tear up a little. I adore that showcase of his humanity so much. I miss when superheroes did that shit at least semi regularly
I think Bruce does see him like a brother. The episode where they had to decide to let flashes and Bruce's parents die or not was so sad. There such a genuine connection between them.
Are we gonna ignore the smile Batman had towards the end when the Flash said “a really good day”. No joke Batman turns away with a smile. He spend so much of his life in the dark that the Flash brings him that kind of happiness.
He's the Dark Knight in a city that needs him to be because it's really that broken. But Batman's only human. Sometimes he needs to leave it behind for a little while so he can remind himself of the good in the world. That's why he needs friends like Flash. He needs good days too.
Deep down, Batman just wants to save every child from what happened to him. And since no one died that day, Batman agreed it was a good day. To quote The Doctor, "Everybody Lives!"
@@cf-4233maaaan from one of the most wholesome justice league episodes to an absolute tearjerker of a Who episode this whole day is now nostalgia for me wtf 😂
Bats tends to be big brother/ grumpy uncle to a lot of heroes it's kinda obvious if you see him interact with Wally and Garfield. I also suspect that he understands Raven as well she's got a lot a shit to deal with.
A small detail from the opening of this episode that I really like are the individual drink orders each villain gets. It’s a humorously small detail, but it gives the characters that much more personality, one even having to order a cold glass of milk due to a personal ulcer acting up. It just gives these simplistic villains a lot more life to them.
My favorite part about the glass of milk for the ulcer is that the order comes in right after that villain just referred to himself and the others as the hardest men in crime.
That's what makes Flash's rogues special. They have powers but they're not psychopaths with plans for world domination. They're just blue-collar crooks with that extra oomph. It helps keep them down to earth.
I think that everyone saying how connected Wally is to the community on a personal level is also connected to one of his greatest fears: The fear he'll never be able to slow down again. Unable to stop and smell the roses, listen to the small pleasures. And he says he's been dealing with it too, it's a recurring nightmare that his greatest strength will destroy everything he loves: his bond to his teammates and fans.
Which makes perfect sense from a personal angle. I'm scared of severe storms because I got seperated from my parents at a softball game when a twister touched down. I'm also an aracnaphob. Just something about the buggers always gets me. I also hate needles but as long as I don't have to see them (and they aren't anywhere near my feet) I'm OK.
@@memesfromdeepspace1075 nope petter is miserable being spiderman spiderman has always been a burden for him His constant jokes and attitude are nothing more than a facade that he puts up to silence his doubts and insecurities. His life is almost always better when he's not Spider-Man. While Flash really loves what he does and this not only does not prevent him from being happy but it complements his happiness.
@@MrMUERETECTMVery true. Both are relatable jokesters but while Peter and his situation feels depressing and his hero work a burdensome duty (the sad reality of "you can't have it all), Flash as a whole gives me hope. Hope for humanity, hope for heroes, hope that there is someone out there that cares the way he does and can make that difference and that I can do that too. The JLU version at least.
which makes his fate in kingdom come all the more depressing. Homeboy was stuck on a different dimensional plane and slowing down his vibrations long enough to have a 2-minute conversation was mentally exhausting.
something left out of this episode is that the trickster didn't even know he was wearing the costume. Flash knew this and told him, which genuinely shocked the trickster when he looked down and saw he was wearing the suit. Flash has done this before. which shows how much of a vested interest he has in helping the trickster.
Trickster being legitimately sick in the show is kind of heartbreaking. In a kids show where heroes punish bad guys and the day ends on a good note you still realise guys like the trickster exist in a person hell of either delusion or impulsiveness. Or whatever the hell I'm trying to say but from a much more analytical standpoint. Do we even know what Illness the trickster has?
also, to note, since the flash is talking to people in traffic, reminding them they're a person, (and by extension so are all the people in cares around them) lowers their stress while driving. hes actively lowering accident rates, probably saving many lives, every day, without fighting a single villain.
One of my favorite episodes, but Wally's best scenes was in The Great Brain Robbery. The mind swap with Luthor was comedy gold from Luthor in Wally's body removing the mask and saying "I have no idea who this is." to Wally in Luthor's body explaining that he doesn't wash his hands after using the toilet "Because I'm Evil". A hilarious episode, and peak Wally, while maintaining peak Lex in the same episode.
Totally agree, an awesome episode. And it was great how the voice actors stayed consistent - Wally's voice actor spoke as Lex Luthor in Wally's body and Lex's actor spoke as Wally in Lex's body. And I also loved that they displayed the absolutely insane destructive levels of Wally's powers and mentioned that he actively holds back his full strength to avoid harming allies or innocents. I think it also shows that his greatest asset as a superhero isn't his superhuman abilities but his compassion and empathy
It also displays Flash's true power, Lex in Flash's body literally almost solo'd the entire watchtower. If Flash wasnt holding back his power he would be one of the strongest.
The scene with Trickster in JLU really was something special and showed how Flash is different from say Batman or Superman, Batman tries to help but mostly beats up his enemies, often because they are too damaged to really help, while Superman's enemies are more world conquering assholes who'd never change. Flash truly is the heart of the League, always staying positive, always helping when he can and always willing to help a villain if he can. Probably because since he thinks faster and sees things in slow motion, he has more time to consider ways to help people.
We have seen Batman interact in such a way with his rouges a few times. I can think of Harley Quinn (when she was wrongfully accused of stealing a dress) and Mr. Freeze on many occassions
@@wafflebroz Problem is that by the time of Justice League Unlimited Batman is presented as more jaded and less patient, hence the reason he doesn't sound different when he's Bruce. Kevin Conroy actually told me about that when I spoke to him back in 2020.
@@wafflebroz He does that with some of them. Flash does it with all of them. Note, I mean The Rogues, which is a supervillain group. Grodd and the Zooms are not part of this group
This is exactly the reason I love the Flash so much. This version of Wally is nearly my favorite, second only to the version of him in the comics. He's so incredibly human.
Batman has said that if his parents weren't murdered, Wally is the type of person he would have hoped to grow up to be like. That's one hell of a compliment.
Your quote is correct, however I think there's an error here. I'm a big Wally fan boy, and I think he's a better character for me than Barry, but I'm fairly certain this was in reference to Barry Allen as he also noted his respect for his forensics and analytical skills in their teamups. Barry had a similar, if not more horrifying tragedy plagued upon him and despite that he didn't lose hope and became hope for others. More than anything, he lives by his words of every second being a gift, not just for him but for others. Batman's crusade is for vengeance and primarily instilling fear to stop criminals from rising to a fanatical and religious degree. Barry's mission is moreso focused on saving people and even attempting to understand and be sympathetic towards his villains which Batman can do like in the case of Mr. Freeze, but it's not something innate to him because of his darkness. "Keep moving, even if your path isn’t lit. Trust that you'll find your way." - Barry
@@frankspick7544 actually, I think that they hinted that Wally took that part of Barry's backstory in the show, in addition to his job and some major parts of his personality.
One of the nice things about The Flash (Wally in particular) is that his foil, Reverse Flash is SO evil and untethered from morality and consequences that it makes the viewer reflect on what a genuinely nice person Flash is. He could *easily* do horrible things to get what he wants. His restraint is as heroic as his accomplishments.
@@Gabe600you forgot one part, Eobard Thawne isn’t only known as Reverse Flash, he also goes by Professor Zoom (which prior to the introduction of Zolomon always got shortened to just Zoom…)
For all the same reasons you said about the Flash, that is why Spider-Man is my favorite superhero. Some of Spider-Man’s defining traits is his unbreakable spirit and his unending empathy. Spider-Man has helped redeem so many criminals and enemies over his time as a hero, it’s honestly astounding. When Sandman was dying, Spidey stayed with him until his final moments. Spider-Man and the Flash are such great heroes because they see the humanity in everyone.
In the comics I read, Wally didn't really have a day job, because his identity as the Flash was public knowledge. It was after the Specter erased everyone's knowledge of his identity that he had to actually work for a living, wherein he became a mechanic. I think the forensics lab was chosen just because it was an opportunity to show his desire to help and his lateral thinking.
It's an interesting dichotomy to see a hero treat a villain like they're a dangerous threat that needs to be punched down, and then Flash defuses the situation, talks to the guy, and offers to play darts with him. Not all villains are like that. You can't reason with Luthor in anything other than his own terms. But there *are* villains like that. Both here in comics and tv, and in real life. People get dealt a bad hand. Or have no real impulse control when they aren't medicated. Some villains can be reasoned with. And sometimes, all they really need is that friend who shows them there's a better way.
I used to be a huge flash fan and i was almost a victim of murder 2 times and man, i thank God for letting those people see the light of reason when i tried to talk them down. So in a sense, i am alive because the flash taught me that certain criminals can be talked down.
it's cool how even the villains just chill and talk with the flash, with the others they'd tense and become defensive, but with wally they open up. it's a really powerful ability tbh. the flash, wally, truly is the heart of the group.
@@ChaoticHoly you say all thia and I keep looking at the videos of cops tasing old people, autistic teens, people holding cameras, or arresting blind men walking down the street. You hear about the cop who killed a woman in her own home? There was no crime. He was prowling around her back yard and shot her through a window. He went on tk shoot another non criminal in their own home. No crime was committed. Still a cop. The problem with cops is they hate you. The problem with cops is its not a dangerous job compared to something like logging. The problem with cops is they earn the hate every day.
To go back to his moment with the trickster, when flash mentions playing darts, trickster has a frown on his face until wally specifies the soft kind, THEN trickster smiles about it. He doesn't even want to hurt the flash, he just wants to have fun/attention, and the fact flash has not only the empathy, but also the patience to make one of his rouges a genuine friend is why I love him as a paragon
This show cemented Wally West as my favorite DC character. He's the epitome of what a superhero is, and why I'm so sick of the deconstruction that superheroes are going through now. He's a great guy, and with all the power in the world, he's still your nice neighbor willing to lend you a hand.
Love how his solution to defeating luther was just spin around the world fast and hit him as hard as possible while risk of being vaporized. Flash could've probably put a dent in superman if his fist would survive the toughness of his skin.
I love the fact that Wally's simplicity brings out a much more touching and loving side in Batman. 16:34 shows this because of one small, simple detail. Batman smiles. He genuinely smiles alongside Wally because of how truly good the man really is.
I love how in most contintinuites the flash villains have a code. Like they rob steal and attack but don't kill innocents, dont cause unnecessary harm, and respect the work flash does
Dont they also explain... thoroughly, to newcomers what the unwritten rules are and enforce them too if needed? In my more cynical moments i wonder if a part of it is knowing they absolutely could not ever handle the flash if they escalated.
@@chrishubbard64 *Yes* for instance one time while Wally West was off planet his nephew Bart Allen was killed by his clone who goes by the name of Inertia. Within the hour that Wally West had found out about Barts death he had tracked down Inertia and was carrying him around the planet saying that he could kill him like a bug on a windshield but he won’t because he looks like Bart. However he then steals all of Inertias speed to the point he is a living statue, he then takes this statue to the flash museum placing him across from Bart’s statue forced to stare at the ghost of the man he could never be
Was hoping someone else remembered. There's also a fun episode of Justice League Action where Joker and Trickster, both still voiced by Hamill, decide to kidnap Mark Hamill, who is saved by Swamp Thing...who in that show is voiced by Mark Hamill.
the fact you said flash was batmans lil brother really made my heart warm honestly bruce needed someone like flash in his life to remind him its not all about the lonesome nights that all he really need do is look to flash and remember "i still have a family." not discounting alfred but bruce really needed a more brotherly bond besides his butler. where as superman is more the big arogant brother thinking he can do no evil.
For a man who can move and think faster than the speed of light. He always takes the time to stop and listen and understand everyone around him and try to make the effort. That's why I love the Flash. It oddly enough before we ever got the movies of The Dark Knight. We already had an example of the hero that we need not the one that we want.
@@nubreed13 I gotta agree. The city flash protects loves him and understands he does his damnedest no matter the odds. They know they need him and they want him. And he is kinda nice to his rogues. He knows they are criminals just doing it to make a buck the only way they know how. He stops em sure. but he gets why. And many times he has tried to help them turn over a new leaf, despite them always falling back into crime, cause well... the comics wont sell half as well without flashes best rogues around for him to face.
Hearing that “but not every villain is gonna change just cause you talk to them” line reminds me why I love Flash: resorting to violence, hatred, anger is the easy way, and it’s also understandable. But it’s a lot harder opening your heart to people/being willing to talk even if it bites you in the ass, and I respect Flash more for it
i just love the way he says you've been off your medications havent you? he doesnt sounds like a hero, he soulds like a friend who is exasperated that his friend is not taking proper care of himself like
Mark Hamil actually played the Trickster in the 90's live action Flash series. It's also where he based it off and developed his Joker voice. Mark voicing the Trickster is paying homage to his role.
@@WahWhoopie which was the first i saw his voice without a dub and was like "is he the joker in arkham ?" and discovered that he didnt vanish from the world after star wars, but became a voice actor
The best animated Mark Hamill moment is when Mark Hamill gets kidnapped by The Trickster and The Joker, only to be saved by Swamp Thing, while learning that Mark was famous for a movie about a young man who fights impossible odds to fulfill his destiny... Corvette Summer.
Flash's mindset on hero work is a very Christian way of thinking. From the book of Luke, chapter 6: "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [...] Do to others as you would have them do to you. [...] If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [...] But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful." Flash knows that justice is no good without mercy. So he offers mercy until it is rejected, and then metes out justice as required to "save the day". No more, no less. Flash is the opposite of a vindictive person. He's a person that sees the best in others, even if they don't see it in themselves.
@@ohiorushbaby he's a true hero imo. and it's hard to have that mind set. to not be vindictive sometimes. I also feel it's a value many these days hate in people to see the best in others. Trust me on that it's a value i try to hold and it's not good. I'm not a Christian but yeah Jesus is a great example to follow so is the flash. The flash is a Christian in the DCAU btw
If anyone is curious who the villains in the bar are. The front of the bar from left to right were Firefly, Doctor Alchemy, and the Thinker. The villains in the background near the door was The Turtle.
The guy on the left isn't Firefly. Everyone else in the bar is a flash villain and that's not the dcau firefly design. It has to be someone else. I forgot who though
It's Mister Element (a copycat of Dr. Alchemy), Fiddler is the one slumped (asleep?). Abra Kadabra is sitting with Turtle, and the Top entered together with Weather Wizard. Pied Piper also shows up, but I think it was only in the second scene at the bar. It really is a cavalcade of Flash rogues. And at the crime lab, I'm sure everyone should have recognized by now who Wally's boss resembles.
@@stwilson3550 yes but eventually Al Desmond became two people. Albert and Alvin. Evil twin and all. It was revealed that Alvin was a subconscious creation of Albert after he gave up his criminal life. Albert put on the Mr. Element Suit once again to take down Alvin.
@@Superlad945 you change the past *ONE* time and it's "don't time travel, Barry" or "Dammit Barry, did you change the timeline again?!" every time things get weird. It's enough to make a guy want to go back in time and stop himself from changing the past...
Out of all the heroes, I think the flash is the most humble of them all because he cares so much about the people he saves. He’s good at analyzing people and reading them, and coming up with a solution even if it’s stupid in certain situations, and he’s always optimistic.
Honestly stuff like this really makes me miss Wally getting the spotlight. Ever since Barry returned and basically just absorbed every development the Flash had when Wally took the helm, Wally feels like he hasn't been treated right from time to time.
Im a huge Barry fan but i agree 100%. When he came back i really wish they would have just given each their own comic. Like batman and superman both have their own named series and their Detective/Action comics prints they could have had a Flash series and idk "The Fastest Man Alive" or something. And sure they could switch off every now and then based on what was going on. Instead they went "Hey were bringing back that guy you all liked. Hes a murderer now. Bye."
A lot of people say that they brought back Wally and made him a murderer, completely missing the point of that story, with Wally having a sever case of PTSD that made him lose control (he lost everything and almost nobody remembered him, his Kids were even erased..). In the same story he leaked the heroes confessions(to Lois lane..so no problems with secret identities) to let everyone see that even them need help, and are not perfect, so that maybe someone that was scared to ask for help was inspired to do the opposite, because Wally didnt wanted anyone to feel alone like him. He later even redeemed himself fixing some of the mess done by flashpoint using the mobius chair. But no, all people say is that they made him a murderer..sure.
When he tells Trickster he's wearing the suit again i died and melted all at the same time. Best hero ever. Also feel like i should note Batman's parallel moment with Ace, but still.
I love tricksters who ring in his “got me again, flash!” Because it means the usual “you foiled me again, flash!” But it also can mean “you have my back again, flash!”
@heavenseal6220 when the cops came over to ask him questions the sonic theme came on HIS THE FASTEST THING ALIVE HIS THE FASTEST THING ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've been reading the 1986 post crisis Flash run lately, and I'm really loving how almost every single one of Wally's supporting characters are either one of his exes who he stays friends with because he still cares about them as people, or a villain he has personally become friends with. Its just a really nice vibe.
12:20 yes. Youre right. Not all supervillains (or irl criminals) are just a person that needs help. But some of them are. And picking those out and treating them right is very important, and the best way to bring down crime.
Yeah like the video tapes of people saying why they did what they did is just so sad one time there was a tape where a guy said he was so full of rage he would pass out and someone would be dead
Ive seen stories about people who get caught in the loop where they get jailed and since nobody gives them a chance they are forced into darker paths, where a single chance changes their life.
And DC and newer DC fans (who came in from the New 52) wonder why so many of us were mad when Wally was written out of existence... And Batman acting as everyone's big brother really does hit differently now. Miss you, Kevin...
He was never written out of existence, it was just a matter of time before he came back. Which he did. From my pov the New 52 only brought out the worst in comic book readers. Pretty much like Marvels "all new all different" line at the time.
@@gameguy1337 he was almost. They wanted to make Irish and Wally a whole new character. One of the reason was because they already infused the old Wally character into new Barry, because when he came back from the dead they realized that Wally was much more popular and well liked than the serious old Barry. But at the end they renamed this new Wally as Wallace, a completely new character, and get Wally back.
@@gameguy1337 Don't bullshit yourself because you're not bullshit us. He was written out of existance. Initially, Ace "was" Wally. Except with none of the traits Wally had other than family connections, and I am not talking about appearance, and without any of his long history in comics, i.e. he was an entirely different character that just shared the name and was intended as the replacement. That was the intention, but they did pedal back when the massive negative feedback hit.
@louisvictor3473 Remember when I said the new 52 brought out the worst aspects of comic fans? This reply is that. I am happy to say I am wrong but the anger is unwarranted.
I got into the Flash back in college because of his Rogues gallery. Specifically, the Geoff Johns run and how they were all mostly in this morally gray area of either being good for personal gain or bad for the sake of lashing out at the world.
The best part is that flash is artificially the little brother of the team. He may be a nuisance to the league at times, but they genuinely care and lookout for him even if he is an adult and can look out for himself.
The episode where Wally and Lex switch bodies is my favourite Flash episode and one of the best in the series The bathroom scenes always get me rolling "Aren't you going to wash your hands?" "No! ...Cause I'm _evil_ 😈" "Well at least I can find out the Flash's secret identity. ...I have no idea who this is." Easily some of the funniest stuff in the series
The bathroom scenes had me dying of laughter too. Simple yet effective. Flash pointing out next level villany xd And lex luthor probably not caring enough to realize someone who isn't as much a threat as 2 aliens / demi gods or rich geniuses.
Flash and Batman are two of the more compassionate members of the JL. Wally really does try to understand people on a humane level and not “good or bad”, he’s a little naive and gullible which makes him relatable to us in a way
Superman is right up there with Flash on how kind he is. The reason we don't get to see those moments is because he's more often than not fighting some world conqueror or destroyer, but otherwise Supes is a golden retriever in terms of personality...
The Flash isn't a fool to hide a warrior's pain. He's a friend and a gentle man who strives for peace and relishes in simplicity. Wally is a hero not only because he's fast, but because his purpose in life is to be a benefit to others. He's not just partaking in charity for the sake of charity either. He doesn't dwell on grief like Spider-Man. He cares for and enjoys the company of others. Even total strangers. Even his enemies. Even Batman. There are genuinely few people like Flash, but the world is truly a better place for it. You don't need speed force to be this kind of person either. This is why I look up to the Flash as my role model, more than any comic superhero.
i love the flash for the reason you have mentioned. really it takes immense inner strength to be like the flash. i love spiderman too as he is similar to the flash but yes he is very grief and trauma driven, making him more like the flash + the bats actually 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's because THIS flash.. is a hero. That's all. He doesn't need to be a tortured soul. He doesn't NEED recognition (tho he does like it). He just wants people to be safe, and knows, with his powers, he can help keep people safe.
I think Batman has a lot of appreciation towards Wally because they both have similar moralities, disregarding either wealth or status in their personal lives to defend their home city while also humanizing their villains.
Theory of mine why Wally can memorize so many names and faces, events and care he gives each one: Processing power and unit storage, thanks to him being effectively a condensed ball of energy with a constant control on output. Ergo: When your brain is processing automatic and arbitrary functions at the amount and speed of the Flash, it isn't farfetched to conceive he may have a day job as a labrat AND be able to keep up with everyone he's saved and gotten to know. That, and he's emotionally invested in being a hero. An extra wad of glue that allows things to mentally stick.
Superman is an icon to the people while flash is a friend who so happens to have powers. That's what makes him so likable and also why the justice league went crazy in the future without him Also the most hilarious guy in the league when he was playing with the boxing game it always gets me laughing.
@@theirongiants missed the entire comment I wrote and it's meaning. Please read it again and see the justice league from batman tas to batman beyond and you'll understand the difference between superman and flash and how people see them.
@@shepherdofthewest4216 missed everything I said? Watch the show and then say it again knowing it's wrong. Superman is an icon before a friend. Flash is a friend before an icon. Sorry for spoiling something everyone knows
I love the fact that Wally just brings out the humanity in others. While there are heroes that have power of gods. They forget what its like to be human, so i love how wally just brings it out of people. Everyone needs someone like that in their lives. They dont even have to be special to you. Just a normal person with your best interest in mind
I always loved Flash's line at the end when he refers to this success as simply a really good day. It goes to show how much he appreciates life and how its always the little things that go a long way and I always love that sort of thing
I love how at the end of this episode, when Flash says "A really good day", that makes Batman smile. I like to think that Flash is one of the few people who can make Batman genuinely smile. Superman and Wonder Woman, too.
Something that I just realized about the Flash when watching this video is that he embodies what it means to be content. In Philippians 4, Paul talks about the importance of contentment as well as helping those in need. This is something that I don’t hear people talking about enough and it’s refreshing seeing a comic book character in an animated series exemplify this lesson.
being content is, unfortunately, an incredibly hard feat, due to the nature of humanity itself. We naturally want to improve, we are naturally unsatisfied with the current limits. Which is why being content is so hard to achieve.
I remember when I got my dream job as a head chef and got my own apartment I was chilling in life so happy, I was content. I was in the elevator with a coworker. She realized how chill I was, told her why, her response “You just content with life right now.” Gave me a stare and later that night she came over. We hooked up
Being content is such a double edged sword though. Like we see Barry trying to worry about the villani anoyher day, they arent going to stop their plans. Theres something to be said about being content about *certain* things but still staying proactive in your goals and challenges in life
i always liked Flash's thoughts on the museum. yeah it's a really really nice gesture for the city to do, but for Wally, the fact they they like him and appreciate him at all is enough
The Flash, is the heart of the team, the person who genuinely believes in others and wants what is best for everyone. It's a vibe that is hard to miss, unless you are the heart and it's hard to find someone there for you. (Which is why I think Batman, supports him so much.)
The trickster scene is up there at number 2, but hands down the #1 scene I think of with JLU Flash is when he solos Braniac/Lex. That plus all the other main 7's reactions to thinking they just lost him perfectly shows that, despite his youthful nature compared to them, he's just as capable of having his "big damn superhero" moments.
Personally I might give the nod to the scene in the alternate universe where Batman admits there was no way he could plan for Flash. But both of those series were gold throughout so it's hard to pick a favorite.
My fave flash scene is when the talkshow belittles him and he just straight up rushes to it right before green lantern can talk him out of it lol. Then the end you see the talkshow get moved down to a smaller studio (probably because he lost viewers)
Flash in Injustice is another good example. No matter what it is. He’s the middleman. He doesn’t fully commit to superman not Batman’s ideals but sticks to what is truly right.
What i also love about this animated Wally West is that several times throughout the show it's shown that when not holding back The Flash is INSANELY powerful and destructive. But 99% of the time Wally isn't going all out and does just enough to get the job done. Some of it is certainly a plot device so that episodes don't get boring with the Justice League steam rolling every villain, but I also think it indicates that Wally's biggest strength is his heart and his empathy, not his speed.
@@phousefilms Yup. This was his second turn as The Trickster. He went on to play Trickster in Justice League Action and in an episode of Scooby Doo. (In other episodes he played The Joker and also himself.)
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I like how this episode demonstrates the actual reason why the rest of the league went dark when he was killed in alternate world
*Neutral fascists authoritarian. Batman👿🦇🌑,Martian Manhunter👿🐉🌑 and Green Lantern👿🖤💚🌑 are Dark. Dark doesn't equate evil, The Justice Lords are an evil Justice League from another reality
another youtube channel also dedicated it to the wally west the flash
@@nkemnoraulmanfredini7286 I don't think "fascist" means what you think it means. Or "authoritarian."
On a tangential note, Renegade Cut once described Batman, as seen in The Dark Knight, as a depiction of fascism. That was the moment I knew he was off his nut.
@@SaltpeterTaffy Very few people that use the word Fascist actually know the meaning. Though the use of fear as a means of control is part of Fascism, just not the only one.
It would be cool if he did an episode on that episode. It was so cool!
I like how Batman doesn't interfere when Flash is talking to The Trickster either, he respects that this is Wally's city and lets him handle his villain his way.
Batman is really respectful of that sort of thing. It helps that its his rule as well. "Dont come to gotham and interfere without being invited and we do things my way here." So yeah, he is going to give the same respect to his fellows who make it clear they have their own way to handle things in their turf.
@@chrishubbard64 the funny part even the green lantern are pretty much you know what listen to this fucker
Also, Batman does the same thing. Batman believes in the system, the system is just broken at the moment in Gotham.
@@chrishubbard64 Batman knows that every Rogues follows their own rules
He's an original 7 member for a reason. Batman pretty much never tries to pull rank with the 7
I'm a dementia nurse and how Flash talks to Trickster is how I talk to my clients. He's really got a heart of gold. also I actually think Trickster has dementia.
My mom had it. It takes incredible patience to deal with it in someone else. I can't even imagine how frustrating it must be for the one suffering it.
I imagine it's a mix between genuine insanity and a little bit of dementia thrown in
My grandma didn't had dementia, but she did ended up with Alzheimer, which ends up being almost the same in a way, it was hard for me, specially because I was quite young back then, like fourteen or fifth teen, she died like 2 years ago, I had to muster the calmness I never had and sometimes didn't had the energy to do, I was almost alone dealing with her since my brothers and sister weren't almost in home, my mom was working so, it was up to me, she got to live COVID up until the situation stabilize, and still I couldn't see her on the hospital or open the coffin to hold her hand, it was sad, it left a void on me, and honestly I don't think I have resolved it yet, but I'm working on it and I think I'm better. I do understand flash and you guys, and I want to say to you all that you are strong willed and wonderful, keep doing what you do and live good
I believe it's implied to be bipolar disorder. The "You're off you're meds again"/"I take em if I start feeling down"/" You know that's not how the medicine works" part refers to a common problem that some bipolar folks struggle to stay on thier medication during mania because, unlike depression, mania feels good and they're losing thier ability for self control. And the "James, you're wearing the suit again"/"I am? Well what do ya know." and the sudden switch to wanting to play darts point towards manic psychosis where they can start losing touch with reality when the mania isn't being treated.
It's people like you who I really respect. People who's willing to spend their whole working carrier taking care of the weakest in society with little to no reward other then the experience itself. My older cousin takes care of mentally and physically incapable, the kinds who's got no future life of their own, and she does it with stride. She and you got one hell of a heart
When a person can move so insanely fast, what's most important to them is to value the things you can only see by slowing down.
Holy shit. Mark Twain in the chat. That slaps hard.
Indeed
freaking BEAUTIFUL....
actually made me choke up a little XD
Damn. Poetic
No better way describe the flash
I think Wally appreciates the little things because his mind moves so fast that everyone else moves slow. It’s his way to cling to the moment instead of moving past it.
Especially after that brush with Dr. Destiny where its revealed his big fear is being too fast he is left all alone.
Some people just like the simple stuff.
Doesnt happen like that anymore. Speed Forces matches him to people but also kicks in like a sort of spider sense when something is moving a certain speed or higher to him. So like talking to normal people is fine but if a gun is shot near him time slows down to a crawl for him.
@@zigfaust that feels.. kinda stupid.
@@randomthings8732 welcome to the DC Universe.
FUN FACT: Mark Hamill also played the trickster in the 90s flash show before he did the joker
Damn
The live action one?
And In the CW Flash TV show
He actually played all the tricksters
@@alkissakoulis782 Not all of them. There were two Tricksters on the CW show. James Jeese was the old one played by Hamill.
Yes, Wally was a Forensic Scientist. He deeply admired his uncle Barry, literally walking in his footsteps, just in his own way.
heck, in the comics he once doubted if he will ever be as good as Barry after his death in the Infinite Crisis arch
Wally deeply looked up to him
he. ever actually worked as one, he did a slew of jobs like mechanic and organ transplant courier but never a forensic scientist like that
@@granmastersword To Wally's credit, he _is_ good at being a hero. But it doesn't matter how fast or powerful he is. He'll _never_ be Barry.
@@joeleboeuf Yeah, he's even better. A Wally.
@ihatefridays2715 And yet, the writers at DC always find some way to screw him over.
I always felt that, deep down, Flash represented everything that Batman wanted to be. He had the sense of duty like Wonder Woman, the call of a greater purpose like Green Lantern, the need to help others like Superman, but he did it all for the simple reason of him wanting to do right by people. My headcanon was that Batman saw in Flash what he saw in himself when he was a kid. Just someone who wanted to do the right thing for no other reason than it helped other people.
so nightwing
@@TsukasaF4 damn I can see why nightwing and Wally Flash are best friends and so called brothers now.
@@TsukasaF4 based observation
well said, he admires him because he gets it done without using fear and also helps them with rehabilitation
That does explain why Batman takes to Flash quicker than the others of the League. Also why most iterations also have Batman take Flash under his wing, like the Justice League movie.
Flash is living out what Batman wanted to live out, but couldn't due to what happened in his own life.
0:04 "Finish your drink, and then turn yourself in." That is still a weirdly wholesome moment from this show, and the crazy part is that it seemed to work!
Yo, it's only wholesome because you know, deep down, Wally came by and played darts with him..
@@AlriikRidesAgain The soft kind, of course
Favorite part
I love that they have Batman smile at 16:30 as Flash says, "You know what I call that, a really good day." It shows that he actually understands what Flash is all about
@Vathorean
This is sad because I've seen this episode numerous times and I didn't notice that detail until I read your comment.
A tiny detail that says a lot about Batman's character and I being a Batman fan missed it for years! Dx
Also because I'm sure he's tired as hell of hearing the Joker ramble about the whole "you only need a bad day"
he does!!! and it's sooo sweet and wholesome!!
@@MonosEx one bad day to ruin your life. 1 good day can save it. both can work if you let them, make sure to pick the right one.
huh I missed that second of smile. good call out
My headcanon is that Batman doesn't just respect The Flash, but outright sees The Flash as the person he wishes he was like.
At some point of the 2000s before Barry Allen's story was changed to add that tragedy of his mother dying, Bruce on a confidential archive about the League he stated "Barry Allen is the kind of man I would had become if my parents weren't killed" or something like that.
Considering his inspiration of an ideal hero is Zoro. Yeah, I can totally see that.
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732 Wouldn't it be wally? both of Berries parents are dead
@@AllTheSameSeam again *before Barry's story was changed to add that tragedy*
@@AllTheSameSeam Barry's parents were alive in the comics until Flashpoint (2011). Reverse Flash went back in time and killed Barry's mom and framed his dad for her murder. When Barry tried to go back in time to save his mom it caused the Flashpoint timeline, so Barry just had to accept his mom being dead.
My favorite part is this line.
"James, you're wearing the suit again."
Alright, one, he knows his name. Two, this implies he knows enough about his condition, perhaps even took the time to research IN DEPTH about it, and- as it is implied in the line about darts, visits him occasionally/frequently.
I know his job is just a forensic scientist but that job still probably includes some knowledge of mental illnesses (figuring out what a person might have done)
so if this follows the comics for powers, all the speedsters can read a whole like 500 page book in a second. if this Flash can do this too then it's not a far strech that he knows all about his villains and what he can do help them. same with the civys of his town.
"i am? well whaddya know..."
Also, it makes Flash sound like a caring mom lol 😂🥰
Batman knows all of his villains names, even the Joker in some interpretations of the character, and he does a lot to help, even if he does it as Bruce Wayne.
"I like heroes who are good people, and I miss them."
100% agreed!
I also agree...
Everything is grey these days...
Free reeal everyone is just some shade of gray there's no difference if everyone has similar morals and thoughts
@@Tayanator "if everyone is grey no one is" syndrome or something
@@Big_Boi420 yeah but I think the exact is"If everyone is thinking the same, no one is thinking"
@@cmbaz1140 yea just like that one time wally west completly inmobilized some guy
Even Batman respects flash
It’s because flash doesn’t just see all villains as evil people, but also as people that were dealt a bad hand
He gives everyone a fair shake, but is also willing to bring the hammer down on villains that cross the line, and in the case of Luthor he did at light speed
I never believed BATMAN of all people respect the Flash until I watched this episode.😊
@@theempireeofficial3935 that's why JLU is arguably the best version of Batman
also because batman would love to see any of his villains getting psychiatric treatment. Imagine what the right medication could do for...
... actually I guess the only one with a flat-out chemical imbalance is the joker, and obviously that's not going to be as easy as trying different meds til you get one that works. even IF you could trust he wasn't messing with you to skew the results, his physiology is surely going to play frustrate-the-monkey with any drugs.
I guess The Ventriloquist is Batman's Trickster. He cares about the guy and wants him to get help, because he's just about the most straightforward cracked one of them. most of them just need someone to be nice to them, or to get a better therapist. or in Ivy's case, she just needs a good man to take charge.
You talking about Kite Man with Ivy, or did she have a good guy in JLU?
I know it's not Wally, but one of my favorite scenes in any form is media is when Barry gives Batman the letter from Thomas Wayne. Even Thomas Wayne respects the Flash
I think my favorite summary is "Flash is the Hero batman wishes he could be, but his rage gets in his way."
Which explains why he shows so much compassion with Flash.
Eh. I disagree. Batman needs the fear and mystique his reputation gives him. Otherwise, he'd just be a guy in a batsuit and criminals would just realize that he can't be everywhere at once.
I do agree that Flash and Superman are Batman's "'ideal" superheroes though.
@@Birthday888Yeah, Batman *wants* to be like Superman, and The Flash, but he knows it wouldn’t work in Gotham, he wants to be a symbol of hope for people, but he *knows* the best he can do, is be a symbol of fear to the criminals. Hence why he has so much respect for Wally and Clark
@@Birthday888 pretty sure Batman said it himself
I adore the Trickster scene. It shows that Wally not only wants to help anyone but he KNOWS that Trickster is not an actual threat, that he's just a sick man and the way he said he'll visit him at the hospital to play darts? Sounds like it wouldn't be the first time.
This is those kind of moments that makes me love the flash. Not the multiversial events, not the big story involving time travel, but the moments where we see what makes him a hero. He understands who he is fighting, and tries to help them as much as he can.
And he looked so happy just to have someone that wants to spend time with him. 🥺
Central City as superhero cities go, is pretty wholesome, even the Flash's Rogue's are an oddly principled supervillain group, having a no-kill ethic.
Wouldn’t say he’s not a threat considering he acquired potent acid for a snot gun but he’s one of the villains that can be talked down into not even firing a shot
@@Xeno-The-Wanderer This is part of why flash is an incredible superhero, he can and will stop people without violence. Central city was many time said to be a utopia, cause flash is the perfect superhero to stop crime effectively.
One interesting note about Wally's relationship with his villains, at least in the comics, is that apparently he's much more well-liked by them than Barry was. The Rogues at several points have noted that Barry kind of had a stick up his ass and didn't really try that much to banter with them or get along compared to Wally. That and a lot of them have known Wally since he was just Kid Flash and are still kinda like "aw, lookit the little kiddo go" so they don't go as hard on him.
Honestly if I was a Villian and watched a sidekick become a great Hero I'd be proud too lmao
@@ThatRandomDude204 look at him. I helped to get that boy get to where he is today.
@Roran04 "Even when I beat the life out of him with a crowbar"!
@@twinzzlers ok, uncle J
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@@roran0432 “I raised that boy”
The Trickster has bipolar. The Flash knows this. His manic delusions make him a "villain". His meds keep him sane. The Flash knows that if the suit is on, he's off his meds. An ass kicking isn't gonna fix that. I appreciate that in the Flash. It's not just the talking that brings this guy to justice, it's the fact that the Flash know such an intimate detail about his villain and can help steer him in the right direction again even if he isn't clear of mind. God knows what he knows about the other villains. I love it 😊❤
He’s dangerous because he’s a skilled inventor made unpredictable due to mental illness, but he truly doesn’t mean any harm.
That 'Caught me again, Flash!' just clinches it. He really just came across as someone needing a human connection even for a moment.
I love the idea of a hero being so goddamn likable, that even the villains who want to destroy him can’t help but hang out with them every once in a while.
Most villains don't even want to destroy him. If given a shot at it, half of his cast of rogues would not kill him.
Shit your right, now that I think about it the majority of villains that ever tried to straight up kill him were apart of another hero’s rogues gallery.
@@_dragonstorm_2635 that or straight up maniacs.
There’s actually a comic about how most of Flash’s rogues know there’s an unspoken rule where they don’t take it too far.
They’re professional thieves and know that as long as they don’t put civilians in too much danger or go for the kill that they Flash considers them more a minor rivalry and will drop them off at the police station at worst.
As long as they don’t cross the line, it’s just business as usual.
I think that there's a comic called Rogues Revenge where the Rogues go after someone who DID cross the line, right?@@Lowkeylie
One thing I noticed about Lord Batman was that when the canon Justice League is captured, he’s cold and indifferent with them except for Flash which he actually tries to talk to even though Flash was dismissive of him
And when Flash pretended to have some sort of cardiac attack, Lord Batman genuinely and visibly *freaks out*
not just that, the point of divergence between the justice league and the justice lords was the flash being executed by lex luthor. the flash dying was the turning point where everything went wrong. really shows what a grounding influence wally was for the league
I like to think that there are two specific reasons Batman likes the flash so much
Firstly, Flash is the most honest and fourth coming of all the hero’s. He hides nothing because he has nothing to hide. While the Bat gets along with all hero’s and even sees Supes as his best friend (even if he would never admit to it) he always has to be careful around them, they all have things they hide from the world and themselves. Which means Batman can’t relax. While with the Flash there is no need for that. He can be as direct and open as he wants.
And secondly, while Supes is the ultimate symbol of self sacrifice for good a hero should be, the Flash is the kind of person Batman wants to be. Open, friendly, everyone’s best friend. He’s jealous of Walley for being better at reading social situations but still happy to have him around (even if no alternate universe exists, where he will admit to that)
@@beneko1127 He sure is
Because he’s not an over the top, larger than life symbol like Superman, a fear-inducing legend like Batman or the rest of unreachable paragons the rest of the Justice League is to their individual cities and the rest of the world
Instead he’s a best friend who just so happens to have superpowers, but they aren’t his one defining characteristic like the rest
His funny, kind and optimistic personality is
@@frankwest5388 Yeah, Bruce likes Wally due to all that but also for something else
Canonically, Wally’s the youngest member of the league which would explain his hopeful view of the world
He isn’t a battle-hardened, bitter adult like Batman and most of the other leaguers are
Wally is just a kid who has the selfless desire of try to make the world a better place
In some way, Bruce is jealous but also happy that Wally has the childhood innocence and hopefulness that he lost
That freakout was on the level you could expect from Bats of it had been Alfred, one of the Robins, or Batgirl flatlining. He’d rush to any JL’s member’s aid, but few people would make him so reckless.
While Flash certainly isn't the smartest hero, his enhanced speed DOES let him think and absorb information faster then the average person. While someone like Batman would probably use that purely as a tactical advantage, Flash seems to use it almost entirely to memorize important information about the everyday people he meets.
I also LOVE that they show how much community service he does compared to other heroes. He's one of the few JL members who understands that his powers can be used for more then just punching bad guys.
Honestly, I see it the other way around. Yes, his super-speed allows him to incorporate a lot of info in no time, but said info doesn't stick (short term memory or something) and is forgotten quickly. I see this as Wally not remembering because of his superpowers, but because he makes the active effort to do so, giving it even more weight.
"isn't the smartest hero"
he literally faked his heartbeat that made alternate batman think he was dead and let him out and he saved everyone(including the other heroes)
@@alphenhousplaysgames4565 | ...and that makes him the smartest hero?
The conversation between Flash and the Trickster always makes me a tear up a bit. Trickster's not a bad guy, he's just an unwell man who wants attention, and Wally trying to get him to take better care of himself in this moment and promising to spend time with him if he does so is too wholesome.
The best part of it is that you know for a fact that Wally went and played darts with him. He went through and fit it in to do so, even if he had to put off painting that fence another weekend, and that you know that Mrs. Grain will be okay with that because she knows he's a busy hero, but that it will eventually get done.
You just know, because that's the kind of guy he is.
A quote that I saw in Lego Ninjago which still stands strong with me today despite its origin is
"The Best way to defeat your enemy is to make them your friend." This is exactly why I like that quote and why I love this episode.
i love the fact makr hamil is the trickster in the cw, i love his character voices and personalities.
When he doesn’t realise that he’s in his suit and sounds legitimately confused and surprised I can’t help but light up some charcoal on the grill, adding some fresh steak.
@@eloilopes - Mark Hamill was the Trickster waaay before the CW Flash, he was already playing James Jesse in the 1990 CBS Flash show... him playing the Trickster again was a callback to that one.
"the bad guys went down, and no one got hurt. I'd call that a really good day" is such a good flash quote and I wish people referenced it more often
Bonus points to that little batman smile when Wally says that. The DCAU and the little details, they trully were masters of the craft.
@@louisvictor3473 I'm glad I wasn't the only one who caught thay
no one got hurt except the villains who we just beat up.
@@irmiwolfthat's very funny tbh. But those Villians were being bad boys so they all deserve a super speed spanking 😂
I'm not a writer but I can only imagine the pride one would feel when you create a character as iconic and beloved as Wally West, added to the Fact that he had to take up the role of another beloved and iconic character and was well received by fans from both generations. Kudos to the Creator of Wally and all the Writers and artists who've done him justice throughout the years
"The bad guys went down and nobody got hurt. I call that a really good day." Batman smiles. Gotta love the attention to detail. Not a smirk, but a real genuine smile. Thanks for doing this episode shady. Just to clarify i wasn't the guy threatening the cat. I couldn't do that.
Yea I don’t trust you man
"and nobody got hurt."
Orion would like a word.
IT WAS MEEEE!
@@wallacecollins8411 Nobody of value got hurt
I never noticed that Batman smiled during that until reading this comment.
5:40 I don't know if Orion was intimidated. The Bat glare isn't just for scaring people. It's also that disappointed look that you mom gives you that guilts you into behaving.
Or when you don't wanna do something, and she just looks at you with with a pleading yet firm stare
Or dad cuz man. When I felt I let him down, it hurt. Especially considering I had two older sisters
Big “Im not mad, I’m just disappointed” energy.
Batman is the mom friend of the JL
Only one who is practically immune to the Batman stare is alfred If anything he actually has a perfect way to Counteract against the stair
Wally talking to the trickster in the bar honestly made me tear up a little. I adore that showcase of his humanity so much. I miss when superheroes did that shit at least semi regularly
I think Bruce does see him like a brother. The episode where they had to decide to let flashes and Bruce's parents die or not was so sad. There such a genuine connection between them.
Which episode is that
I don't remember that one
no, seriously. what episode is that?
You're referring to the Flashpoint movie?
@@Renkencen Have to be. I don't remember other with the same story
Are we gonna ignore the smile Batman had towards the end when the Flash said “a really good day”. No joke Batman turns away with a smile. He spend so much of his life in the dark that the Flash brings him that kind of happiness.
He's the Dark Knight in a city that needs him to be because it's really that broken. But Batman's only human. Sometimes he needs to leave it behind for a little while so he can remind himself of the good in the world. That's why he needs friends like Flash. He needs good days too.
Deep down, Batman just wants to save every child from what happened to him. And since no one died that day, Batman agreed it was a good day. To quote The Doctor, "Everybody Lives!"
@@cf-4233maaaan from one of the most wholesome justice league episodes to an absolute tearjerker of a Who episode this whole day is now nostalgia for me wtf 😂
That head cannon of Batsy being an over protective big brother to the Flash... yeah, I think it tracks very well.
Bats tends to be big brother/ grumpy uncle to a lot of heroes it's kinda obvious if you see him interact with Wally and Garfield. I also suspect that he understands Raven as well she's got a lot a shit to deal with.
A small detail from the opening of this episode that I really like are the individual drink orders each villain gets. It’s a humorously small detail, but it gives the characters that much more personality, one even having to order a cold glass of milk due to a personal ulcer acting up. It just gives these simplistic villains a lot more life to them.
Its small touches like these that show the love and care the creators had
My favorite part about the glass of milk for the ulcer is that the order comes in right after that villain just referred to himself and the others as the hardest men in crime.
I have to agree. It gives them each individuality, that spark of humanity.
That's what makes Flash's rogues special. They have powers but they're not psychopaths with plans for world domination. They're just blue-collar crooks with that extra oomph. It helps keep them down to earth.
I don't know who else noticed, but Trickster after opening his straw places it down on his crotch and just stares at it.
I think that everyone saying how connected Wally is to the community on a personal level is also connected to one of his greatest fears:
The fear he'll never be able to slow down again. Unable to stop and smell the roses, listen to the small pleasures. And he says he's been dealing with it too, it's a recurring nightmare that his greatest strength will destroy everything he loves: his bond to his teammates and fans.
Which makes perfect sense from a personal angle. I'm scared of severe storms because I got seperated from my parents at a softball game when a twister touched down. I'm also an aracnaphob. Just something about the buggers always gets me. I also hate needles but as long as I don't have to see them (and they aren't anywhere near my feet) I'm OK.
He just petter Parker of dc
@@memesfromdeepspace1075 nope petter is miserable being spiderman
spiderman has always been a burden for him
His constant jokes and attitude are nothing more than a facade that he puts up to silence his doubts and insecurities.
His life is almost always better when he's not Spider-Man.
While Flash really loves what he does and this not only does not prevent him from being happy but it complements his happiness.
@@MrMUERETECTMVery true. Both are relatable jokesters but while Peter and his situation feels depressing and his hero work a burdensome duty (the sad reality of "you can't have it all), Flash as a whole gives me hope. Hope for humanity, hope for heroes, hope that there is someone out there that cares the way he does and can make that difference and that I can do that too. The JLU version at least.
which makes his fate in kingdom come all the more depressing. Homeboy was stuck on a different dimensional plane and slowing down his vibrations long enough to have a 2-minute conversation was mentally exhausting.
15:38 what I like to think is Batman is thinking “why would i shoot a flair at someone”
something left out of this episode is that the trickster didn't even know he was wearing the costume. Flash knew this and told him, which genuinely shocked the trickster when he looked down and saw he was wearing the suit. Flash has done this before. which shows how much of a vested interest he has in helping the trickster.
Trickster being legitimately sick in the show is kind of heartbreaking. In a kids show where heroes punish bad guys and the day ends on a good note you still realise guys like the trickster exist in a person hell of either delusion or impulsiveness. Or whatever the hell I'm trying to say but from a much more analytical standpoint. Do we even know what Illness the trickster has?
@@thinkingofaname6233 Most likely Alzheimer's or Dimentia
also, to note, since the flash is talking to people in traffic, reminding them they're a person, (and by extension so are all the people in cares around them) lowers their stress while driving. hes actively lowering accident rates, probably saving many lives, every day, without fighting a single villain.
Well that's what being a hero is. Just helping however you can because you can and it's the right thing to do.
You know what else helps a person hear the Flash when he talks to them? Driving at a safe and even slow speed, further decreasing the accident rate!
I like how the Trickster's drink is brown with no foam like chocolate milk. I could totally believe he went to a bar and asked for one.
In a dirty glass, of course.
@@ianfinrir8724 Or that. Bars on TV tend to be crap holes for bad guys.
@@WarDragonOfTheLight ruclips.net/video/3Qq8LqG-fhg/видео.htmlsi=FaDLhNXhy4v-th1-
One of my favorite episodes, but Wally's best scenes was in The Great Brain Robbery. The mind swap with Luthor was comedy gold from Luthor in Wally's body removing the mask and saying "I have no idea who this is." to Wally in Luthor's body explaining that he doesn't wash his hands after using the toilet "Because I'm Evil". A hilarious episode, and peak Wally, while maintaining peak Lex in the same episode.
Totally agree, an awesome episode. And it was great how the voice actors stayed consistent - Wally's voice actor spoke as Lex Luthor in Wally's body and Lex's actor spoke as Wally in Lex's body. And I also loved that they displayed the absolutely insane destructive levels of Wally's powers and mentioned that he actively holds back his full strength to avoid harming allies or innocents. I think it also shows that his greatest asset as a superhero isn't his superhuman abilities but his compassion and empathy
@@bryantsoohoo7743 it helps that Flash's voice actor played Lex in Smallville and Luthor's is Mr. Krabs.
@@crimsoneclipse0618 wow
@@crimsoneclipse0618 He’s also The Kurgan from Highlander
It also displays Flash's true power, Lex in Flash's body literally almost solo'd the entire watchtower.
If Flash wasnt holding back his power he would be one of the strongest.
The scene with Trickster in JLU really was something special and showed how Flash is different from say Batman or Superman, Batman tries to help but mostly beats up his enemies, often because they are too damaged to really help, while Superman's enemies are more world conquering assholes who'd never change.
Flash truly is the heart of the League, always staying positive, always helping when he can and always willing to help a villain if he can. Probably because since he thinks faster and sees things in slow motion, he has more time to consider ways to help people.
He also actually has the relationship with the Rogues, to varying degrees
@@TheKyrix82 You really do get the sense the Rogues are more doing the villain thing as a day job rather than being outright monsters like Joker.
We have seen Batman interact in such a way with his rouges a few times. I can think of Harley Quinn (when she was wrongfully accused of stealing a dress) and Mr. Freeze on many occassions
@@wafflebroz Problem is that by the time of Justice League Unlimited Batman is presented as more jaded and less patient, hence the reason he doesn't sound different when he's Bruce. Kevin Conroy actually told me about that when I spoke to him back in 2020.
@@wafflebroz He does that with some of them. Flash does it with all of them. Note, I mean The Rogues, which is a supervillain group. Grodd and the Zooms are not part of this group
This is exactly the reason I love the Flash so much. This version of Wally is nearly my favorite, second only to the version of him in the comics. He's so incredibly human.
Batman has said that if his parents weren't murdered, Wally is the type of person he would have hoped to grow up to be like.
That's one hell of a compliment.
Damn, the fact that Bruce admires Wally’s optimism, sense of empathy alongside his fun and easygoing persona that much really is groundbreaking
@@hamizanyunos1502 which is ironic since wally mother was murdered, by on of hus future rogues and even in that time line Flash is stillpretty upbeat
Your quote is correct, however I think there's an error here.
I'm a big Wally fan boy, and I think he's a better character for me than Barry, but I'm fairly certain this was in reference to Barry Allen as he also noted his respect for his forensics and analytical skills in their teamups. Barry had a similar, if not more horrifying tragedy plagued upon him and despite that he didn't lose hope and became hope for others. More than anything, he lives by his words of every second being a gift, not just for him but for others. Batman's crusade is for vengeance and primarily instilling fear to stop criminals from rising to a fanatical and religious degree. Barry's mission is moreso focused on saving people and even attempting to understand and be sympathetic towards his villains which Batman can do like in the case of Mr. Freeze, but it's not something innate to him because of his darkness.
"Keep moving, even if your path isn’t lit. Trust that you'll find your way." - Barry
@@CuppaLLX that was barry wally uncle
@@frankspick7544 actually, I think that they hinted that Wally took that part of Barry's backstory in the show, in addition to his job and some major parts of his personality.
One of the nice things about The Flash (Wally in particular) is that his foil, Reverse Flash is SO evil and untethered from morality and consequences that it makes the viewer reflect on what a genuinely nice person Flash is. He could *easily* do horrible things to get what he wants. His restraint is as heroic as his accomplishments.
Actually, his Reverse Flash, Hunter Zolomon, isn't full on evil. He's more deluded.
Wally nemesis is Zoom, Reverse Flash is Barry nemesis, and the Rival is Jay Garrick's and Inertia to Bart Allen
@@Gabe600you forgot one part, Eobard Thawne isn’t only known as Reverse Flash, he also goes by Professor Zoom (which prior to the introduction of Zolomon always got shortened to just Zoom…)
For all the same reasons you said about the Flash, that is why Spider-Man is my favorite superhero. Some of Spider-Man’s defining traits is his unbreakable spirit and his unending empathy. Spider-Man has helped redeem so many criminals and enemies over his time as a hero, it’s honestly astounding. When Sandman was dying, Spidey stayed with him until his final moments. Spider-Man and the Flash are such great heroes because they see the humanity in everyone.
In the comics I read, Wally didn't really have a day job, because his identity as the Flash was public knowledge.
It was after the Specter erased everyone's knowledge of his identity that he had to actually work for a living, wherein he became a mechanic.
I think the forensics lab was chosen just because it was an opportunity to show his desire to help and his lateral thinking.
It’s also the job of his mentor and predecessor Barry, maybe as a nodd.
Nah they just gave him Barry Allen’s job
For some reason the DCAU liked to give the legacy heroes their predecessor’s origins. Wally had Barry’s origin and Kyle had Hal’s origin.
@@firesnakex8 I think it's because those two are somewhat dependent on their predecessor for their origin.
@@firesnakex8 They gave Tim Drakes origin of Jason Todd's Robin
It's an interesting dichotomy to see a hero treat a villain like they're a dangerous threat that needs to be punched down, and then Flash defuses the situation, talks to the guy, and offers to play darts with him. Not all villains are like that. You can't reason with Luthor in anything other than his own terms. But there *are* villains like that. Both here in comics and tv, and in real life. People get dealt a bad hand. Or have no real impulse control when they aren't medicated. Some villains can be reasoned with. And sometimes, all they really need is that friend who shows them there's a better way.
Agreed. It's also part of why it hurts so bad to see police abuse people
real
I used to be a huge flash fan and i was almost a victim of murder 2 times and man, i thank God for letting those people see the light of reason when i tried to talk them down. So in a sense, i am alive because the flash taught me that certain criminals can be talked down.
it's cool how even the villains just chill and talk with the flash, with the others they'd tense and become defensive, but with wally they open up. it's a really powerful ability tbh. the flash, wally, truly is the heart of the group.
@@ChaoticHoly you say all thia and I keep looking at the videos of cops tasing old people, autistic teens, people holding cameras, or arresting blind men walking down the street.
You hear about the cop who killed a woman in her own home? There was no crime. He was prowling around her back yard and shot her through a window. He went on tk shoot another non criminal in their own home. No crime was committed. Still a cop.
The problem with cops is they hate you. The problem with cops is its not a dangerous job compared to something like logging. The problem with cops is they earn the hate every day.
To go back to his moment with the trickster, when flash mentions playing darts, trickster has a frown on his face until wally specifies the soft kind, THEN trickster smiles about it.
He doesn't even want to hurt the flash, he just wants to have fun/attention, and the fact flash has not only the empathy, but also the patience to make one of his rouges a genuine friend is why I love him as a paragon
Wait, do they throw the darts at each other?
He probably had a bad experience in the past@@bluesbest1
This show cemented Wally West as my favorite DC character. He's the epitome of what a superhero is, and why I'm so sick of the deconstruction that superheroes are going through now.
He's a great guy, and with all the power in the world, he's still your nice neighbor willing to lend you a hand.
Well put! I really hate what they've done to Wally in the current continuity.
Flash saving the world from Luther/Brainiac at personal risk, and talking Triskster down cemented him as my favorite.
Love how his solution to defeating luther was just spin around the world fast and hit him as hard as possible while risk of being vaporized.
Flash could've probably put a dent in superman if his fist would survive the toughness of his skin.
I love the fact that Wally's simplicity brings out a much more touching and loving side in Batman. 16:34 shows this because of one small, simple detail. Batman smiles. He genuinely smiles alongside Wally because of how truly good the man really is.
I love how in most contintinuites the flash villains have a code. Like they rob steal and attack but don't kill innocents, dont cause unnecessary harm, and respect the work flash does
Dont they also explain... thoroughly, to newcomers what the unwritten rules are and enforce them too if needed? In my more cynical moments i wonder if a part of it is knowing they absolutely could not ever handle the flash if they escalated.
@@chrishubbard64 I mean probably the Flash is kind of OP if taken seriously
One of their most iron rules is they don't harm families. Especially women and children. Every new member who's ever broken that rule has been buried.
@@chrishubbard64 *Yes* for instance one time while Wally West was off planet his nephew Bart Allen was killed by his clone who goes by the name of Inertia. Within the hour that Wally West had found out about Barts death he had tracked down Inertia and was carrying him around the planet saying that he could kill him like a bug on a windshield but he won’t because he looks like Bart. However he then steals all of Inertias speed to the point he is a living statue, he then takes this statue to the flash museum placing him across from Bart’s statue forced to stare at the ghost of the man he could never be
@@jaredmyers4506 my god that is brutal
Not sure if anyone else has said this but Mark Hamill also played The Trickster in both live action Flash shows.
Was hoping someone else remembered. There's also a fun episode of Justice League Action where Joker and Trickster, both still voiced by Hamill, decide to kidnap Mark Hamill, who is saved by Swamp Thing...who in that show is voiced by Mark Hamill.
I was looking for this comment! Yeah he was great in live action.
-You beat me to it! Good on you, mate.
Or the fact that Mark Hamill played the Trickster(yea for 1990's live action the Flash) before he voiced the Joker,
Came here for this.
the fact you said flash was batmans lil brother really made my heart warm honestly bruce needed someone like flash in his life to remind him its not all about the lonesome nights that all he really need do is look to flash and remember "i still have a family." not discounting alfred but bruce really needed a more brotherly bond besides his butler. where as superman is more the big arogant brother thinking he can do no evil.
For a man who can move and think faster than the speed of light. He always takes the time to stop and listen and understand everyone around him and try to make the effort. That's why I love the Flash. It oddly enough before we ever got the movies of The Dark Knight. We already had an example of the hero that we need not the one that we want.
Except the Justice League cartoon's Flash is Wally West.
@@TheKyrix82 Admittedly I sometimes get those 2 confused which is why edited the original post to just say the Flash
Well I'd say the flash is both the hero they need and the one they want.
@@nubreed13 I gotta agree. The city flash protects loves him and understands he does his damnedest no matter the odds. They know they need him and they want him. And he is kinda nice to his rogues. He knows they are criminals just doing it to make a buck the only way they know how. He stops em sure. but he gets why. And many times he has tried to help them turn over a new leaf, despite them always falling back into crime, cause well... the comics wont sell half as well without flashes best rogues around for him to face.
11:50 “James you’re off your meds aren’t you”
Jesus Christ that was too real for me.
Same. And I can't exactly afford to be off them as it could ruin my liver.
I love how Batman’s face said “What makes you think you’re not going?”
“It’s not black tie is it?” 😂😂😂
I thought it was more like, "You just volunteered yourself, and you know it."
@michaelsong5555 its probably both, along with the subtle threat of having to deal with batman of he refuses
Hearing that “but not every villain is gonna change just cause you talk to them” line reminds me why I love Flash: resorting to violence, hatred, anger is the easy way, and it’s also understandable. But it’s a lot harder opening your heart to people/being willing to talk even if it bites you in the ass, and I respect Flash more for it
Must be one of the bigger reasons why Batman respects him, especially because how much it rings true for the caped crusader
i just love the way he says you've been off your medications havent you? he doesnt sounds like a hero, he soulds like a friend who is exasperated that his friend is not taking proper care of himself like
Mark Hamil actually played the Trickster in the 90's live action Flash series. It's also where he based it off and developed his Joker voice.
Mark voicing the Trickster is paying homage to his role.
Which is kinda cool
And then he went on to play an older Trickster in the CW show
@@WahWhoopie which was the first i saw his voice without a dub and was like "is he the joker in arkham ?" and discovered that he didnt vanish from the world after star wars, but became a voice actor
also played him in the CW
The best animated Mark Hamill moment is when Mark Hamill gets kidnapped by The Trickster and The Joker, only to be saved by Swamp Thing, while learning that Mark was famous for a movie about a young man who fights impossible odds to fulfill his destiny... Corvette Summer.
I relate to the flash's personality a lot. He's a very misunderstood person because he actually loves his enemies and wants them to be good.
Flash's mindset on hero work is a very Christian way of thinking. From the book of Luke, chapter 6:
"Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. [...] Do to others as you would have them do to you. [...] If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [...] But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful."
Flash knows that justice is no good without mercy. So he offers mercy until it is rejected, and then metes out justice as required to "save the day". No more, no less. Flash is the opposite of a vindictive person. He's a person that sees the best in others, even if they don't see it in themselves.
@@ohiorushbaby he's a true hero imo. and it's hard to have that mind set. to not be vindictive sometimes. I also feel it's a value many these days hate in people to see the best in others. Trust me on that it's a value i try to hold and it's not good. I'm not a Christian but yeah Jesus is a great example to follow so is the flash. The flash is a Christian in the DCAU btw
Of course you would.
(Kinda of crazy how similar Naruto and DCAU Flash is)
@@哲二川上 ikr. I think that's what makes them lovable but also misunderstood by many people who aren't soft hearted
Honestly Bruce and Wally's friendship is one of the best in DC
Bruce and Clark is also a good one
Also Wonderbat is best hero ship
@@NinetyLegos I imagine the quote speaks for itself here: "I'm a rich kid with issues. A lot of issues."
15:33 - I love the look of "I'm Batman, do you really think I miss?"
Eh I got the "Who said I was aiming for you?" kinda vibes
Flash is more than just a hero.
He’s the kind of PERSON I want to be.
If anyone is curious who the villains in the bar are. The front of the bar from left to right were Firefly, Doctor Alchemy, and the Thinker.
The villains in the background near the door was The Turtle.
The guy on the left isn't Firefly. Everyone else in the bar is a flash villain and that's not the dcau firefly design. It has to be someone else. I forgot who though
It's Mister Element (a copycat of Dr. Alchemy), Fiddler is the one slumped (asleep?). Abra Kadabra is sitting with Turtle, and the Top entered together with Weather Wizard. Pied Piper also shows up, but I think it was only in the second scene at the bar. It really is a cavalcade of Flash rogues.
And at the crime lab, I'm sure everyone should have recognized by now who Wally's boss resembles.
I'm not sure how Mister Element and Doctor Alchemy could be in the same place. Consider they're the same guy. Multiple personalities and such.
@@stwilson3550 yes but eventually Al Desmond became two people. Albert and Alvin. Evil twin and all. It was revealed that Alvin was a subconscious creation of Albert after he gave up his criminal life. Albert put on the Mr. Element Suit once again to take down Alvin.
@@Superlad945 you change the past *ONE* time and it's "don't time travel, Barry" or "Dammit Barry, did you change the timeline again?!" every time things get weird.
It's enough to make a guy want to go back in time and stop himself from changing the past...
Out of all the heroes, I think the flash is the most humble of them all because he cares so much about the people he saves. He’s good at analyzing people and reading them, and coming up with a solution even if it’s stupid in certain situations, and he’s always optimistic.
Wally is just such a good and kind-hearted dude, man. As much as I love Spider-Man, this Flash is probably one of my favorite superheroes of all time.
Honestly stuff like this really makes me miss Wally getting the spotlight. Ever since Barry returned and basically just absorbed every development the Flash had when Wally took the helm, Wally feels like he hasn't been treated right from time to time.
Im a huge Barry fan but i agree 100%. When he came back i really wish they would have just given each their own comic. Like batman and superman both have their own named series and their Detective/Action comics prints they could have had a Flash series and idk "The Fastest Man Alive" or something. And sure they could switch off every now and then based on what was going on. Instead they went "Hey were bringing back that guy you all liked. Hes a murderer now. Bye."
A lot of people say that they brought back Wally and made him a murderer, completely missing the point of that story, with Wally having a sever case of PTSD that made him lose control (he lost everything and almost nobody remembered him, his Kids were even erased..). In the same story he leaked the heroes confessions(to Lois lane..so no problems with secret identities) to let everyone see that even them need help, and are not perfect, so that maybe someone that was scared to ask for help was inspired to do the opposite, because Wally didnt wanted anyone to feel alone like him. He later even redeemed himself fixing some of the mess done by flashpoint using the mobius chair. But no, all people say is that they made him a murderer..sure.
I just want Barry done right for a proper live action torch passing from one Flash to the next
When he tells Trickster he's wearing the suit again i died and melted all at the same time. Best hero ever. Also feel like i should note Batman's parallel moment with Ace, but still.
I love tricksters who ring in his “got me again, flash!” Because it means the usual “you foiled me again, flash!” But it also can mean “you have my back again, flash!”
Orion’s deadpan line, “flash..? You’re tied to a large… boomerang…” is one of my favourites ever.
Just perfect.
as long as his not ezra miller
As long as he is*
@@sickenchandwichYT sorry my bad im dyslexic
Agreed
@heavenseal6220 when the cops came over to ask him questions
the sonic theme came on
HIS THE FASTEST THING ALIVE
HIS THE FASTEST THING ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
🤢🤮
I've been reading the 1986 post crisis Flash run lately, and I'm really loving how almost every single one of Wally's supporting characters are either one of his exes who he stays friends with because he still cares about them as people, or a villain he has personally become friends with. Its just a really nice vibe.
12:20 yes. Youre right.
Not all supervillains (or irl criminals) are just a person that needs help.
But some of them are.
And picking those out and treating them right is very important, and the best way to bring down crime.
Yeah like the video tapes of people saying why they did what they did is just so sad one time there was a tape where a guy said he was so full of rage he would pass out and someone would be dead
Ive seen stories about people who get caught in the loop where they get jailed and since nobody gives them a chance they are forced into darker paths, where a single chance changes their life.
And DC and newer DC fans (who came in from the New 52) wonder why so many of us were mad when Wally was written out of existence...
And Batman acting as everyone's big brother really does hit differently now. Miss you, Kevin...
He was never written out of existence, it was just a matter of time before he came back. Which he did. From my pov the New 52 only brought out the worst in comic book readers. Pretty much like Marvels "all new all different" line at the time.
@@gameguy1337 he was almost. They wanted to make Irish and Wally a whole new character.
One of the reason was because they already infused the old Wally character into new Barry, because when he came back from the dead they realized that Wally was much more popular and well liked than the serious old Barry.
But at the end they renamed this new Wally as Wallace, a completely new character, and get Wally back.
@@gameguy1337 Don't bullshit yourself because you're not bullshit us. He was written out of existance. Initially, Ace "was" Wally. Except with none of the traits Wally had other than family connections, and I am not talking about appearance, and without any of his long history in comics, i.e. he was an entirely different character that just shared the name and was intended as the replacement. That was the intention, but they did pedal back when the massive negative feedback hit.
@louisvictor3473 Remember when I said the new 52 brought out the worst aspects of comic fans? This reply is that. I am happy to say I am wrong but the anger is unwarranted.
@@gameguy1337 What anger?
"Captain Boomerang! You old son of a wallaby!"
S tier line.
Yes.
I got into the Flash back in college because of his Rogues gallery. Specifically, the Geoff Johns run and how they were all mostly in this morally gray area of either being good for personal gain or bad for the sake of lashing out at the world.
And Zoom. Can't forget about Hunter Zolomon.
The best part is that flash is artificially the little brother of the team. He may be a nuisance to the league at times, but they genuinely care and lookout for him even if he is an adult and can look out for himself.
I mean the whole reason the justice lords happened was because of the Flash dying.
9:51 the most realistic part
The episode where Wally and Lex switch bodies is my favourite Flash episode and one of the best in the series
The bathroom scenes always get me rolling
"Aren't you going to wash your hands?"
"No! ...Cause I'm _evil_ 😈"
"Well at least I can find out the Flash's secret identity. ...I have no idea who this is."
Easily some of the funniest stuff in the series
The bathroom scenes had me dying of laughter too.
Simple yet effective.
Flash pointing out next level villany xd
And lex luthor probably not caring enough to realize someone who isn't as much a threat as 2 aliens / demi gods or rich geniuses.
Flash and Batman are two of the more compassionate members of the JL. Wally really does try to understand people on a humane level and not “good or bad”, he’s a little naive and gullible which makes him relatable to us in a way
Remember; this Flash is Wally.
This flash is Wally not Barry.
Superman is right up there with Flash on how kind he is. The reason we don't get to see those moments is because he's more often than not fighting some world conqueror or destroyer, but otherwise Supes is a golden retriever in terms of personality...
Also shazam but thats because he is a kid at heart and irl lol
This is a prime example of someone who never takes things for granted and has a pure heart
The Flash isn't a fool to hide a warrior's pain.
He's a friend and a gentle man who strives for peace and relishes in simplicity.
Wally is a hero not only because he's fast, but because his purpose in life is to be a benefit to others. He's not just partaking in charity for the sake of charity either. He doesn't dwell on grief like Spider-Man. He cares for and enjoys the company of others. Even total strangers. Even his enemies. Even Batman.
There are genuinely few people like Flash, but the world is truly a better place for it. You don't need speed force to be this kind of person either. This is why I look up to the Flash as my role model, more than any comic superhero.
Those two concepts aren't mutually exclusive.
i love the flash for the reason you have mentioned. really it takes immense inner strength to be like the flash. i love spiderman too as he is similar to the flash but yes he is very grief and trauma driven, making him more like the flash + the bats actually 🤣🤣🤣🤣
It's because THIS flash.. is a hero.
That's all. He doesn't need to be a tortured soul. He doesn't NEED recognition (tho he does like it). He just wants people to be safe, and knows, with his powers, he can help keep people safe.
10:56 Best version of "Three guys walk into a bar" joke ever.
Three heroes walk into a bar. One of them is Batman. All villains flee. xD
I think Batman has a lot of appreciation towards Wally because they both have similar moralities, disregarding either wealth or status in their personal lives to defend their home city while also humanizing their villains.
add to that, Flash's joker (the trickster) was easily dealt with, I feel like Batman respects that the Flash could avoid what is happening in Gotham.
I"d just like to say that your delivery of "I like heroes who are good people, and I miss them" was absolutely perfect!
Also, I fully agree!
7:52 oh my god, that joke flew WAY over my head.
Theory of mine why Wally can memorize so many names and faces, events and care he gives each one: Processing power and unit storage, thanks to him being effectively a condensed ball of energy with a constant control on output. Ergo: When your brain is processing automatic and arbitrary functions at the amount and speed of the Flash, it isn't farfetched to conceive he may have a day job as a labrat AND be able to keep up with everyone he's saved and gotten to know.
That, and he's emotionally invested in being a hero. An extra wad of glue that allows things to mentally stick.
Superman is an icon to the people while flash is a friend who so happens to have powers. That's what makes him so likable and also why the justice league went crazy in the future without him
Also the most hilarious guy in the league when he was playing with the boxing game it always gets me laughing.
He was their heart and conscience. He kept them grounded.
Superman is also a friend with powers. The Flash is just a younger, nerdier, and grounded version of Superman.
@@theirongiants missed the entire comment I wrote and it's meaning. Please read it again and see the justice league from batman tas to batman beyond and you'll understand the difference between superman and flash and how people see them.
Superman is a friend too.
@@shepherdofthewest4216 missed everything I said? Watch the show and then say it again knowing it's wrong. Superman is an icon before a friend. Flash is a friend before an icon. Sorry for spoiling something everyone knows
I love the fact that Wally just brings out the humanity in others. While there are heroes that have power of gods. They forget what its like to be human, so i love how wally just brings it out of people. Everyone needs someone like that in their lives. They dont even have to be special to you. Just a normal person with your best interest in mind
Dude, after you finish your drink, turn yourself in!
"You got me again Flash!"
Now that's just class right there!
I always loved Flash's line at the end when he refers to this success as simply a really good day. It goes to show how much he appreciates life and how its always the little things that go a long way and I always love that sort of thing
I love how at the end of this episode, when Flash says "A really good day", that makes Batman smile. I like to think that Flash is one of the few people who can make Batman genuinely smile. Superman and Wonder Woman, too.
Your laugh while The Trickster was telling his plan was amazing. Also, The Trickster's plan might have worked lol
And even if it didn't work it would've been fun to watch.
Something that I just realized about the Flash when watching this video is that he embodies what it means to be content. In Philippians 4, Paul talks about the importance of contentment as well as helping those in need. This is something that I don’t hear people talking about enough and it’s refreshing seeing a comic book character in an animated series exemplify this lesson.
being content is, unfortunately, an incredibly hard feat, due to the nature of humanity itself. We naturally want to improve, we are naturally unsatisfied with the current limits. Which is why being content is so hard to achieve.
@@jeanremi8384 But improvement *is* possible, and you can take content in that.
@@granda3649 nope, i don't
I remember when I got my dream job as a head chef and got my own apartment I was chilling in life so happy, I was content. I was in the elevator with a coworker. She realized how chill I was, told her why, her response “You just content with life right now.” Gave me a stare and later that night she came over. We hooked up
Being content is such a double edged sword though. Like we see Barry trying to worry about the villani anoyher day, they arent going to stop their plans. Theres something to be said about being content about *certain* things but still staying proactive in your goals and challenges in life
i always liked Flash's thoughts on the museum. yeah it's a really really nice gesture for the city to do, but for Wally, the fact they they like him and appreciate him at all is enough
The Flash, is the heart of the team, the person who genuinely believes in others and wants what is best for everyone. It's a vibe that is hard to miss, unless you are the heart and it's hard to find someone there for you. (Which is why I think Batman, supports him so much.)
The trickster scene is up there at number 2, but hands down the #1 scene I think of with JLU Flash is when he solos Braniac/Lex. That plus all the other main 7's reactions to thinking they just lost him perfectly shows that, despite his youthful nature compared to them, he's just as capable of having his "big damn superhero" moments.
Personally I might give the nod to the scene in the alternate universe where Batman admits there was no way he could plan for Flash. But both of those series were gold throughout so it's hard to pick a favorite.
My fave flash scene is when the talkshow belittles him and he just straight up rushes to it right before green lantern can talk him out of it lol.
Then the end you see the talkshow get moved down to a smaller studio (probably because he lost viewers)
Flash in Injustice is another good example. No matter what it is. He’s the middleman. He doesn’t fully commit to superman not Batman’s ideals but sticks to what is truly right.
This is easily one of the best written episodes of JLU. The writers really understand what makes Flash so great.
What i also love about this animated Wally West is that several times throughout the show it's shown that when not holding back The Flash is INSANELY powerful and destructive. But 99% of the time Wally isn't going all out and does just enough to get the job done. Some of it is certainly a plot device so that episodes don't get boring with the Justice League steam rolling every villain, but I also think it indicates that Wally's biggest strength is his heart and his empathy, not his speed.
12:30 the normal human doesnt have the time to give a chance and get to know other people but the flash has all the time in the world
the fact that mark hamil voiced the trickster and then later went on to PLAY the trickster in the CW show really warms my heart
Also played Trickster in the very old Flash series.
@@phousefilms Yup. This was his second turn as The Trickster. He went on to play Trickster in Justice League Action and in an episode of Scooby Doo. (In other episodes he played The Joker and also himself.)
@@phousefilms You mean the 90s Flash series? Oh yeah, 30 years ago, very old indeed....