1980s Farming in the 21st Century
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- Опубликовано: 18 май 2024
- It's time to plant some soybeans, and I'm doing it like it was 40 years ago. The White 2-155 is a 1981, the 4-225 is a 1983, the disc is a 1987, and the drill is a 1989. The Brillion packer is from around the year 2000, but they made this model in the 1980s, so we can pretend on that one. There's dust, diesel and drone footage in this one!
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I always tell people that when they watch me farm, it's like going back in time to the 1950's through the 90's, and I'm just fine with it. Nice older equipment, Chris.
Thanks Charlie. The old stuff still gets results without having to be on a first name basis with the banker.
If you and a few other's had not kept these tractors alive we would have never got a chance to relive the days of muscle tractors.
That's an interesting way to put it. Kinda like cars, you can get some serious horsepower today, but it just isn't the same as what the 60s and 70s gave us.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris The power just is not the same, my "old" tractors will really put in the work and make the modern higher horse tractors look over rated. the deep lugging power of the later 40's and 50's Molines was unmatched and the Olivers were incredibly economical. Personally the 1950's and 60's tractors are my favorite. However the Muscle tractors of the 70's I really enjoy watching also. I wish more of them made it to the "out of the field" tractor pulls.
It’s always been a dream of mine to find an old farm and return it to its original glory. Thanks for sharing. City boy, farmer at heart. Thanks again
I put 4000 hours on a 330 trackhoe in 2 years . So under 4000 hours for a tractor is just breaking it in. I love the Whites. My stepfather bought one but it wasn't a nice big one or a 4x4. Greetings from Florida, but originally from Upstate NY on a dairy farm... with lots of rocks 😂😂😂😂😂.
You know what I mean. Rocks! 😂
Nice to see the 2 -155 out doing little field work. Good you got little rain it helps make things grow. Thx Chris
Very peaceful and calming to watch, especially with your narration. Both tractors sound awesome. Love the looks of the White tractors. Hope you have a good crop season.
Thanks! The corn is popping up fast with the heat and moisture, so it's off to a good start.
Great video. Enjoyed it very much. Always great to see other farmers still running old equipment.
Thanks 👍
Hello! Oldies are awesome! Tough and honest...
‘ I think we will call that good ‘
Thanks again Chris, for bringing us for a spin. Love the stories. ☘️🇮🇪☘️
Glad you enjoyed it
I grew up running a 2-155 2-wd. Good old tractor. Just brought home a 2-160 mfwd with a Cummins. She needs a little rehab but I think I can bring her back to what she once was. Great video
Thanks!
Thanks!
Funny title. Last week I picked up 2 new herd bulls. Got out of my 1979 f250 and loaded them into an stock trailer of similar vintage. I smiled at the guy and said I'm still farming in 1984.😅
I always enjoy the story's of the dealership. Your Dad must have been a good salesman, even at home!!
I see you have decided to try the air conditioning. It beats the wind, sun and always going in the same direction dust.
Tuesday I used the 2050 and the small disc waiting for a bearing for the big disc. We had some rain the night before, so no dust, and the fresh air was nice, but boy was I red by the end of the day.
Chris, nice that you get your field mostly planted before it starts raining 👍 you seem to be quite proficient operating a tractor in the drone at the same time 👏 in Iowa we're supposed to get some rain later today and for the next couple of days. thanks Michael
Thanks! The drone definitely easier with the disc. If I miss a spot I can just go back and catch it.
Enjoyed the video. Wow! You are talented, driving a tractor and flying a drone at the same time all while watching for incoming potatoes. At least you are protected by a cab.
Thanks for verifying which Greg Davis this is. There's a lot of you out there! 😜
You're doing well running that drill without GPS or markers. What row spacing is the drill?
We used a 9300 JD press drill with every other hole plugged so we had 12" spacing.
Always nice to get a decent rain after planting.
It's 7.5" and I'm using them all. My well drained soil lets me get away a solid stand of beans
Real men don't need GPS to grow a crop. Farmers just getting lazier every year that goes by. Keeping that line straight is the fun part. But then u can't be on til tok an youtube 🙄 lol
There's a few of us that do just fine in the past and are successful doing it that way.
Darn Skippy!
Just finished planting beans yesterday with my 2-155. Pulled a Kinze 16-31 planter, about all it can handle. Makes me $$ every year, with Trimble auto steering it works well enough but it's no RTK. Happy Planting! Cheers! East Central Il.
Good deal! This planting season has been a challenge for a lot of giys. I've got about 2 more days and should have everything in the ground.
Good morning Chris ☕️☕️👍. Working up nice for you.
Good morning!
Good day, Chris. It's been a while. That 4-225 doesn't sound too loud in there. My 4-180 was noisy and vibrated at certain RPMs. After about 8 hours of field work, you were about to go crazy! It got the job done but wasn't my favorite tractor. I sold it to a neighbor, and i get to see it in action every now and again. He has a small hobby farm, so when it's going, it's not for long. Nice to see the 2-155 out as well! The 2-135 and the 2-155 are still going strong here.
The later cabs and probably the longer nose probably make the biggest difference. But I know what you mean about vibration. They don't call it a Clatterpillar for nothing. 😂
@ThatOliverGuyChris haha. I had a top driveshaft made for it a driveline shop and they made it light weight. That helped a bit but it still wasn't perfect. The fellow that owns it now thinks its great. Its better then a 930 case forsure lol.
It’s like you got a pretty good seedbed going there Chris yeah them Oliver and whites are good. Tractors had five of them one time. Keep up the good work.
Thanks 👍
Interesting story about the Great plains drill. We are a dealer here in Washington state. Every once in a while we get one of those old ones. They still sell i saw one just recently a guy bought from the mid west. Nice old equipment.
Another great video Chris, always enjoy the stories and watching the planting
Glad you enjoyed it
If you go the 30 foot No-till Great Plains route, you'll want to use your 4-225 to pull it, we have used a Massey Ferguson 4900 and 5200 to pull them, the no-till version weighs around 20,000 pounds empty.
Wow, there is a lot more steel in the no till version. Thanks, I might go back to 20 feet if that's the case.
They do a good job getting beans and wheat into the ground, you'll have no worries about getting seed in the ground with a no-till Great Plains drill. We moved on to a 35 foot Great Plains air seeder now, does just as good a job but the weight is spread out better.
Seems most everyone had the same sentiments with 4x articulated power thinking they’d be difficult. Once my uncle hit around 3K acres he broke down and started running an older Versatile he’d picked up cheap thinking he’d get out of it about what he’d paid. He liked the power and fuel savings enough along with how it rolled across the prairie that it was still in his fleet until he retired…
For awhile it was gates that bottlenecked bigger equipment. In later years it was high lines.
I really like the White 2155, if I had a need for something that big that's the one that I'd have, but I don't have any issues with the Oliver 1955 either. Isn't there a follow along program for drones? Maybe that's something you could use, not that there anything wrong with running the drone while planting. I was told years ago when you make a row that is curved you get more produce in the ground!😆 Fun video, enjoyed it a lot, thanks Chris, have a great Sunday.
Thanks! This drone will follow cars and people, but that seems to be it. Sometimes I can get it to lock onto a tractor if it's far away, but that doesn't make for good video.
Awesome video Chris..
Thanks 👍
Nice.
Do you think those self-driving tractors that plant every square inch are worth the money?
Thanks for the video.
For a self employed farmer like me, no. But for a large farm that has multiple employees, it's the future. Every industry that can do it, automates. Labor is expensive, needs sleep, holidays, sick time, and so on. I'm not saying it's a good thing, but I think that's where we're heading. We've been slowly training our replacements, and paying to do it.
Another great video --you do a great job with the videos and a great job farming your dad would be proud !
South of Springfield IL. . You are way ahead of us.
There's a lot of guys waiting for the rain to stop. I'll probably be begging for it in a couple weeks
Hello everyone great sound from white i love this tractor
have already driven in noth Kentucky and quite a few my favorite the one with the 3408 caterpillar 4 wheel drive a monster
a friend operating in as import 8 in Alsace
7:10 i love this sound from us tractor this is a great big horse from us 💪💪💪
Great commentary and video, thanks.
Thank you !
Chris that tractor has front wheel assist,
why is it not a 4-155?
The model system gets a little confusing. When the 4-150 came out, the powers that be at White felt that the articulated, full time 4 wheel drive was going to eliminate the need for Fwa . So all the fixed frame models got the 2 designation , like the 2-105. They were so confident of it that the 2-135 and 2-155 were released without the option of FWA. They eventually figured out that was a mistake and added an FWA option to the 2-135 and 2-155, but kept 4 means articulated full time 4 wheel drive and 2 means a conventional fixed frame tractor no matter what front axle equipment it had.
Great video Chris
Thanks 👍
3700 hours? Wow.
I remember the years 1961 and 2001 as the two worst years in my farming life.
No rain equals no crops.
2012 was a serious drought year here, but I had crop insurance and I think I made more that way than if I had grown a good yield.
Great video bro I liked ya story of ya bag. Rain dew here soon and for all tomorrow. Safe travels. Ken.
Thanks!
Man I can’t believe it’s planting time already. Keep feeding America!
It felt like hay making time yesterday, it was a hot one.
How familiar are you with a MM G955? Do you know how well it could be repowered with a Cummins 5.9? It only has lighter, flat frame rails vs the heavy tub on Oliver.
That would be the biggest challenge, the engine acts as part of the frame in a G955. It's an Oliver rear end, you could get an 1850 tub and bolt that on, but then getting the sheet metal to fit could be a challenge.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris how practically could you reinforce the Moline frame? My grandfather bought the tractor new, the engine runs poorly, but it would be nice to use the tractor again.
@@bendunkelman4853 that's a good question. I'd see if Cummins had an application where they used an oil pan that was also a structural member. Kinda like the Perkins. In the 1850 it was a cast aluminum pan, but in a Massey Ferguson it's a big cast iron thing that also acts like a frame. I don't know if anyone ever had a Cummins application like that, it's just speculation on my part. Personally, if the tractor has sentimental value, I'd look into rebuilding the factory engine.
My neighbors bought one in the same time frame. They got a free 7 bottom plow.
I've got a poster from that promotion. There were some amazing deals at that time.
Now all you need is an Irish Setter that you can teach to say "Roll that beautiful bean footage". There was wasn't to many Olivers around me. The farms i worked on had 4020s 4010s. One had 2590 Case, and an AC 7040. The farm i work on now had a 4430 4240 4450, and wr got along with all those tractors for years. They were all reliable, and a bad fuel injector which happened almost never, $30 to replace instead of $1000 in this new computerized crap. A side note, i was told there was an Oliver dealer north of Manchester Mi on M52 and of course you know of the one in Saline Mi. Our Agco dealer is Diubles in Ann Arbor but originally they sold Allis Chalmers.
Southern Michigan had good Oliver coverage for a time there.
Ahoj. Krásně řečeno. New computerized crap...😊😊😅😅😂😂😂😂 Zlatá slova. Bůh Vám žehnej.
Were you out of business before Tye was part of agco? I like my Tye drill fairly simple and built well
We bought the 13 foot Great Plains in 89, I think it 90 when Agco bought White, so we weren't part of that family yet. We did sell Crustbuster, and I'm still kind of surprised dad didn't go that way. We were looking for a conventional drill, so that might have influenced the decision.
Curious what speed you are pulling the disc
I'm keeping it right at 5 mph. Faster seems to induce more rock related injuries.
it's too bad that poor management practices sank companies like AC, and Oliver. White fared better with their tractor division than their truck company. the fact that these machines are still working fields today, is a testament how well they were built. just as important, how well they're maintained by the farmers who own/work them. good job Chris 👍can you imagine rebuilding a new machine 40 to fifty from now? it would cost three or four times more than a new one at that time.🙄
The new machines will be killed by software. I can get a machinist to make most any part if I want to dig deep enough, but who's going to build a new circuit board for my combine?
@@ThatOliverGuyChris less is more for longevity, but hey, who know, a group of enthusiasts built working copies of the Apollo flight computers. maybe, Retro Computer Mart "for all your classic tractor need"🤣
If i got paid to raise rocks id been rich with 2 quarrys around me. So my best friend was a rock picker
I've got 2 rock pickers, 3 if you include the skeleton bucket for the skid steer. That's my preferred weapon against the onslaught of rocks these days.
Great video Chris. What population do you plant?
Thanks! I plannt right about 200,000.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I plant 30 inch rows at 140,000. Figured you had to plant quite a few more with the narrow spacing.
Great work, here in Ohio it is wet don’t have the first bean in the ground yet but iam close
Good luck!
Great vid, great drone footage! Do you know who owns the 2150 you’d like to get back?
Yep. He says I have first dibs on it when he decides to sell.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris that’s awesome!
Just think Chris, for another $900,000 you could have a tractor that steers itself 😁
😂😂😂 why didn't someone tell me sooner! 😆
That’s got to be a great feeling that all of your equipment is paid for come harvest time…
@@wingrider687 especially this year with the low grain prices and tight margins.
Your dad's perspective on the articulated steering reminds me of the old Willis Brothers song: ruclips.net/video/Ei7-r4cJfMg/видео.html
Love it! Thanks
Oh, the time of the year with the greatest expectations for a farmer. Of course, harvest is times of frowns or smiles.
There's 2 ways to look at it. You have lots of potential at planting, or it's all downhill from here.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris If one thinks their horse is going to come in last, it will. Farming is just the opposite. Even if the odds are 54/1 you bet the farm on it.
Does anyone plant green in your area or have you
There are a couple that do. I had some acreage with oats and volunteer wheat that was about half dead from the roundup when I no tilled the corn into it. Does that count?
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