1855 Restoration - Hydraulic Pump

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  • Опубликовано: 9 фев 2025
  • More progress! The hydraulic pump goes on, but not without some customizations. Hoses are made, things are adjusted, and I think it all fits. Slowly but surely this tractor is going to get done.
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  • @jonathancrissinger2301
    @jonathancrissinger2301 8 месяцев назад +2

    That looked like a lot of work. It got really busy around there, lol. Good thing you know what you're doing. Trial fitting always pays off. Thanks for sharing and I'll see you later.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад

      It definitely would have been easier with factory parts, but this will make it better. Thanks for watching!

  • @jaholl97
    @jaholl97 8 месяцев назад +1

    👍👍👍👍👍

  • @rog4864
    @rog4864 8 месяцев назад +3

    I love seeing how all the parts go together to make the tractor do what it does. I get marveled at how the engineers came to the final design. Great video, thanks Chris.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks! I often look at these tractors and think about the work that went into getting them to an actual machine. A lot of minds had to come together to get it all to work.

  • @DaleHegland
    @DaleHegland 8 месяцев назад +3

    I see it's another bloody knuckle job!👍👍

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +2

      I swear my wife keeps a log of scratches and bruises. "Where did that come from?" she says.
      " I don't know, I was too busy working to notice" I tell her. So now when I do that stuff I make a mental note to myself. "Tuesday, wrench slipped, skinned the back of my hand. Pulled torn skin off, may need to wash the ratchet now." 😂

    • @DaleHegland
      @DaleHegland 8 месяцев назад

      @@ThatOliverGuyChris 🤣🤣🤣

  • @johnwarren-649
    @johnwarren-649 8 месяцев назад +2

    Looks really good with all the new lines

  • @Dan-qy1rg
    @Dan-qy1rg 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sure is a lot of connections and fittings to put in and remove and adjust and remeasure. I think you have an enormous amount of patience to do that, I would have had to walk away several times. Nice explanation on the flow and how it works, good luck with the rest of the project. Thanks and I hope you have a good week!

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +2

      Thanks! It definitely makes a difference having a hose crimper. I also had a couple of breaks in there waiting for parts, so it wasn't too bad.

  • @MikeJensen-wo7oh
    @MikeJensen-wo7oh 8 месяцев назад +1

    Beautiful install Chris!

  • @timnichols9015
    @timnichols9015 8 месяцев назад +2

    I appreciate the discussion on hydraulic flow……. It applies across many manufacturers

  • @anthonyhengst2908
    @anthonyhengst2908 8 месяцев назад +1

    It appears you are putting a jigsaw puzzle together in a dealer shop. Everything looks so clean and organized.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      Organized is such a strong word. Maybe "conveniently placed" would be a better term.

  • @larryklostermann5779
    @larryklostermann5779 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice video Chris, your problem solving skills are amazing!

  • @andrewwagner7992
    @andrewwagner7992 8 месяцев назад +1

    That pretty blue hydraulic pump is definitely going to need some meadow green sprayed on it. :) I redid the gerotor pump inside the main pump on the 2-85 several years ago as we were losing hydraulic fluid into the rear end. Turns out the loss was coming from the power take off system and it wasn't even necessary, but it was the first place the manual said to try and track down. I leaned quite a bit during that adventure.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'd say 90% of the time it's the pto. I did reseal the same gearotor in this tractor while I was in there.

  • @rosshall641
    @rosshall641 8 месяцев назад +1

    I just did some surgery on a 1655 cockshutt today. I feel your pain.

  • @JohnBryant-qc5zg
    @JohnBryant-qc5zg 8 месяцев назад +1

    Nice job Chris!!! Looks clean!

  • @andresauer3607
    @andresauer3607 8 месяцев назад +1

    Good morning, my friend,
    RUclips has stopped notifying me about your videos, so I had a lot of content to catch up on.
    Regarding the restoration of the 1855, do you plan to give it a new paint job or just restore some parts of it?
    Another question I have is that I usually see you till the soil before planting. Why don't you practice no-till farming on the dry mulch (since it increases soil cover and nutrient load)? Is there a special reason for this?
    I'm a big fan of your content here in Brazil. Best regards, my friend.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад

      You're not the first one to have trouble with RUclips notifications. One thing I have found that helps is to unsubscribe and then re-subscribe. That seems to reset things.
      The 1855 will get a full paint job before it is all done. That's getting close.
      As to tillage, I no-till all of my corn. I disc my bean ground. I feel it helps break down the corn stubble, gets lime and fertilizer incorporated a little better, and smooths out any rough spots. Plus I'm not running corn fodder through the combine with the beans. Any plowing I do is what I call recreational tillage, I do it for fun and to work the old tractors. Doing that has shown me the benefits of my no-till/min-till rotation. Wherever I plow I get more erosion for the next couple years. It takes time to build that soil structure back up.

    • @andresauer3607
      @andresauer3607 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ThatOliverGuyChris Thank you, my friend, for the tips and explanations. I'm still eager for more videos and becoming an even bigger fan.
      Best regards from Brazil.

  • @brianhartley4534
    @brianhartley4534 8 месяцев назад +1

    Really enjoyed this videa

  • @tammygurke7482
    @tammygurke7482 8 месяцев назад +1

    Chris you had me at the English language. Then I mentioned something about the “swear jar” then you just mentioned it.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      I need to visually use the swear jar more often, because I know there are times it was used in it's audio capacity. 😂

  • @DouglasMitchell-b8c
    @DouglasMitchell-b8c 8 месяцев назад +2

    That's a plumbing nightmare 😂

  • @49commander
    @49commander 8 месяцев назад +1

    I'd add the power beyond now if it was me.

  • @corydriver7634
    @corydriver7634 8 месяцев назад +2

    Are the pumps tested at the factory prior to shipping? I can’t even image going through this entire process only to fine out the pump is defective. 😖

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      I'd like to think so, but I don't know. There was oil in it, and I would think they test it to set the pressure. Now that everything is fabbed and in place, it wouldn't take long to remove the pump and replace it.

  • @michaelsheeder148
    @michaelsheeder148 8 месяцев назад +1

    Chris, question for you do you think that when they manufactured the tractors originally that they test fitted the hoses like you've been doing? You definitely got a lot of work in the hoses. Thanks Michael

    • @joshcrd7925
      @joshcrd7925 8 месяцев назад +2

      I would expect that the hose lengths/configurations were all figured out during the experimental phase and prints were drawn up for each and they were made up ahead of time. Then they would just pull from the parts room and put the tractor together.

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      Josh has the right answer. I'm sure when they were designing and hand building the prototypes they would test fit everything. But once you have that figured out, you can blueprint and make jigs so the hoses and lines turn out the same every time. In retrospect, I should have measured some of those hoses and wrote it down in case I ever do the same with some of my other Olivers.

  • @emrythompson
    @emrythompson 8 месяцев назад +1

    Is there anyway you can easily add hydraulics to a super 77 without them?

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад

      I guess it depends on you skill level and tools. The factory hydraulic unit is self contained, so you have to remove the transmission cover, pull the pto shaft that goes to the engine and put the unit in. If the tractor has the mechanical lift, that has to come out, and the part of the transmission input shat has to be cut off to make room for the hydraulic pump. Once the hydraulic unit is in, the long shaft from the pto goes back in and goes through the hydraulic pump, and that's what powers it.

    • @emrythompson
      @emrythompson 8 месяцев назад +1

      @@ThatOliverGuyChrisThat Unit (Hydraulic pump) would need to be purchased, not just plumbed up, correct?
      Could be hard to find one.
      Maybe there’s a way to run a pump of the pto, and still be able to use the pto

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад

      @@emrythompson I think there are options out there for pto powered hydraulics. Northern Tool has an online catalog of all sorts of hydraulic goodies. Dalton Hydraulic is another good source for that kind of stuff. There were quite a few offered "back in the day" , you might find something on eBay or Facebook marketplace.

  • @aaronkauffman2036
    @aaronkauffman2036 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks for the videos. Has been helpful as I work on my 18 and 19. My 19 has been struggling with hydraulic issues after the oil gets warmed up and there aren’t many Oliver/white mechanics left in my area anymore to ask questions. The other day I was turning and raising the implement when the steering wheel jerked randomly. Where do I start checking for the issue?

    • @ThatOliverGuyChris
      @ThatOliverGuyChris  8 месяцев назад +1

      The priority valve may have been sticking and shifted suddenly diverting extra flow. You could pull that out and make sure it's sliding properly in the bore. I've had my steering do a little jerk in similar situations, and I think it's something that can happen when the right combination of functions are used at the same time, at the right pressure.

  • @JoeEaton-kx2tk
    @JoeEaton-kx2tk 8 месяцев назад +1

    Lot of work but looks real good. She's gonna be a dandy.

  • @marcbeebe
    @marcbeebe 8 месяцев назад +1

    That pump will never work: it's the wrong colour! 😁