How To Deal With Split Pushers! (All Tactics/Tips/Rotations)

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  • Опубликовано: 31 дек 2024

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  • @moosesandmeese969
    @moosesandmeese969 8 лет назад +54

    Quick note: if you don't do any damage and the split pusher is ignoring you and killing the tower, KILL THE MINIONS, NOT HIM. Inhib towers gain like 80% damage reduction when there are no minions. Even a nasus with 500 stacks cannot tank an inhib or Nexus turret. He will die from it because it also has a lot of armor pen (like 66% or more). He would need at least 2000 stacks or 2500 to tank the whole thing, which is just unrealistic, and yes, I have tested it myself.

    • @ListaGamesLP
      @ListaGamesLP 8 лет назад

      des

    • @KingOfLimbs
      @KingOfLimbs 8 лет назад

      Is this true? I believe you but I have never heard this before.

    • @benbarth8613
      @benbarth8613 8 лет назад +1

      yes this is what you do when you are behind and this happens or they are super tanky

    • @EtirDerpitroll
      @EtirDerpitroll 8 лет назад +2

      Actually it is. I only learned about it after watching H2K Jankos use Hec ult to push minions away from turret in order to make it much harder for S04 to take down H2K's Nexus. That was what won H2K the game after they saved their Nexus.

  • @enr1388
    @enr1388 8 лет назад +5

    Vision is the core to stopping split pushers it allows u to cut them off early. its very important

  • @malditovskyplays264
    @malditovskyplays264 8 лет назад +20

    +ScrapComputer Can you make a video on when to push/freeze the lane and why?

  • @SchrecTC
    @SchrecTC 8 лет назад +10

    Solid narration, but minimal illustration. It would have been nice to see more relevant clips rather than just wallpaper gameplay.

  • @carl6070
    @carl6070 8 лет назад

    omg this video just taught me SCRAP COMPUTER is back!!!! thanks for teaching me ahri bro :3

    • @carl6070
      @carl6070 8 лет назад

      btw my bro transfer from dota 2 absolutely loves you :D

  • @KingOfLimbs
    @KingOfLimbs 8 лет назад +1

    Hello Scrap! I just figured out how to post from the mobile client. Derp!
    Great video, good to know for those who split push what the counters are.
    I hope all is well with uni. We miss you! 😢

    • @ScrapComputer
      @ScrapComputer  8 лет назад

      Mobile client win ;)
      Thanks magpie! I miss you too bro!

  • @IOEUIE
    @IOEUIE 5 лет назад +1

    The reason why I actually wanted to watch this was because I wanted to know how to deal with splitpushers in late game, now let me give a scenario. Enemy fiora, in the early game was pretty behind, but later on, she can 1v1 anyone (there's a reason why she is called the duellist) she is at nexus turret, and your team is with 5 in a their part of the map, making attempts to fight a 4v5 which is in our advantage ofcourse, whats the best option to do here? Back to base and stop fiora from splitting, send 1 person to deal with it/ send 2 to deal with it and the rest takes enemy jng a bit/ all back off and kill her, trying to cut her off/ fight the enemy 5v4 (which is a risk, because you never know if you will win for 100% certainty) win it and get an inner turret and maybe possible an inhib turret and inhib/ fight 5v4 win it and then send 1 person to deal with it and the rest pushes.. now those are a lot of options and tbh i played this game for a long time, but i still dont really know how to deal with splitpushers in this scenario. And then there is a big difference in how far your team has already pushed, are you at nexus turret, are you at inhib/turret, or are you at the inner enemy turret, those are all things we need to think off.
    Now in this scenario, she did this like the entire game, yes she had a lot of deaths, yes we dealt with her a numerous times but we just couldnt manage to get the lane in a safe position, after a while our turrets were gone and she just took our base when we killed the whole enemy team except her. gg wp was a sad game, but our top couldnt handle her
    Quick note: i'm not blaming my top here, im a dia 4 supp main, and just wanted to know how to stop a splitpusher in a case like this

  • @sneaks9150
    @sneaks9150 8 лет назад

    Damn these are some of the best tips ive ever got from just one video :)

  • @vital9523
    @vital9523 8 лет назад

    Hey man i really like your videos, they are very informative, keep it up soon you will have more subs :3

  • @fredw8325
    @fredw8325 8 лет назад +10

    First point. What if ur in bonze and that the split push does not care about vision but u cant get ur team together to gank top? #elohell

    • @FenrirWolfe1
      @FenrirWolfe1 8 лет назад +5

      Other points still apply. #GetGood

    • @ltzzmee4789
      @ltzzmee4789 8 лет назад

      +Fenrir Wolfe dude I feel you, I'm in silver and I have the same problems they never take advantage of this and just do random things

    • @jasonslade6259
      @jasonslade6259 8 лет назад +1

      Well for bronze players your best bet is to get good enough at your own mechanics, farming and map awareness that you can get far enough ahead to take care of them yourself.

    • @wery333
      @wery333 8 лет назад

      Apply the poit where you farm at your turret and focus on farming and not dying instead of fighting oponent. Still put vision around you so you dont get ganged. Then start learning mechanics to beat your lane. Also splitpushing or hypercarries are really good at low elo imo.

    • @MixalisEam
      @MixalisEam 8 лет назад

      I have a great idea, pick tryndamere or jax, push the wave and get the jungle then repeat.

  • @abluequaker5486
    @abluequaker5486 8 лет назад

    Vision Denial + Slow Push (start the slow push a close to your tower as possible because it will a. force them to overextend to deal with it and b. have a larger wave damaging their tower if they don't deal with it) + Roam. Split pushers split push because their kit is generally only capable of dealing with 1 or 2 enemies. If you force them to teamfight they're going to be far less effective

  • @CeryThief
    @CeryThief 8 лет назад

    i must say this is a well made video and tells a 5-man premade team how to cope with splitpushing, but for solo-queue it is completely useless if you yourself arent a toplaner unfortunately. In my last game i had a riven (what else) who was flaming our jungler the whole game how she didnt get ganks. As a result riven got stubborn and thought: i will never go toplane again and let this tryndamere take all our towers. and as a result we lost our inhib at about 20 minutes in. I told her several times how she should mirror tryndamere when there was nothing else to take crossmap, but well... riven mains dont listen to the stupid syndra from the midlane.... But still: a very nice made video. (btw i am mid- gold elo, so at least some knowledge of the game should be known by players in my elo -.-´)

  • @sinslayr683
    @sinslayr683 8 лет назад

    Never really used to watch these videos, was silver 5. Started paying attention to these videos. Gold 5 now. Thanks scrap. Although I could use a video on how to deal with burst mages like annie, lb, and syndra. Aside from building sterak's (which usually isnt enough to save me) I don't really know what to do.

    • @moosesandmeese969
      @moosesandmeese969 8 лет назад

      Those champs require different counters. And what role are you playing? ADC: Leblanc needs a hexdrinker and some life steal, and as long as you keep auto attacking, you shouldn't die. Annie you have to actually kite out her ult, just stay back until she uses it (same with any heavy engage champ). But to not do that, go banshee's. Stops the tibbers and stun then just kill her. Syndra is either hexdrinker, GA, or life steal. You have to try to dodge the stun and same thing: kill her.

    • @sinslayr683
      @sinslayr683 8 лет назад

      To narrow it down I normally play Jungle or Mid, my mains and pretty much the only people I play are Lee Sin and Syndra. Secondary's are Rek'Sai and I haven't really found a good secondary for mid. I've juked out the Annie ult multiple times with Lee by Q'ing to her and ward jumping mid Q but other than take I kinda just have to take the beating.

    • @moosesandmeese969
      @moosesandmeese969 8 лет назад

      Jacob Bartowsky You can go warrior>hexdrinker on lee. It still gives you good damage. Don't do the hydra or other damage items on lee. Warrior hexdrinker and black cleaver are the only damage items you would ever get on him. Syndra go abysal first.

    • @sinslayr683
      @sinslayr683 8 лет назад

      Ait man thanks for the info, I'll give those a try.

  • @eyeopener6980
    @eyeopener6980 8 лет назад

    actually ur music choice is good wut r all of the songs used in this vid?

  • @SleepyFrogZzZ
    @SleepyFrogZzZ 8 лет назад +2

    +ScrapComputer can you make a video about strategies as an adc?
    (sorry for my bad english) love your videos! :)

  • @mcnt9506
    @mcnt9506 8 лет назад

    hey scrap, if im mid and i kil the tower where do i go? do i stay in lane, go to another or alternate between the two? I dont want to stay in lane and try to push more if top or bot (maybe both) turrets arent dead, so i might get ganked

  • @Rudi361
    @Rudi361 6 лет назад

    3:10 What if the enemy laner is dominant or tryndamere?

  • @HakuCell
    @HakuCell 8 лет назад

    what's the name of the outro song at 14:20?

  • @ImpactedWorld
    @ImpactedWorld 8 лет назад

    This is the biggest reason i lose games. Especially if i'm not a split push champion, i'm forced to rely on my allies to split. Instead, they tend to try to group mid and die in teamfights. Whenever people follow my lead and split push and do rotations with me we have ALWAYS won. This may be one of the most important mechanics in the game and it is the primary reason that some are low elo and others are not.

  • @sovitus5991
    @sovitus5991 8 лет назад

    hey scrap. i was wondering if you can do a kindred guide. I've been trying to play her recently, got the right runes, masteries, follow the build... but i still am either feeding or losing games. Even if i get ahead early it seems i get stomped out mid to late game. I am silver 5 so maybe i am missing out on some basics, but particularly idk what to build if/when i am behind. Kindred is super squishy as is so it feels like most defensive items (barring GA, which i do get) seem to be not as effective.

    • @sovitus5991
      @sovitus5991 8 лет назад

      My apologies for the long post.

  • @volticz8942
    @volticz8942 8 лет назад

    +ScrapComputer Can you make a Very Detailed Top Lane Guide video?

  • @ΧρηστοςΛυκουδης-ρ3ι

    Hey Scrap i have a problem on what to pick for certain adcs of whether to pick warlords or fervor could u please make a video upon that ?

    • @ScrapComputer
      @ScrapComputer  8 лет назад

      The mastery guide is coming, but here is the basic rundown.
      Ferveor = AA / Sustained DMG based ADCs
      Thunderlords/deathfires touch - Caster ADCs

  • @cjnwangwu6897
    @cjnwangwu6897 8 лет назад

    Imo I find it more annoying when I'm trying to take that last turret as jax, but this malzahar wont leave me the hell alone Xd.

  • @szylaj
    @szylaj 8 лет назад

    how do you stop singed split push? (double proxy etc.)

  • @durchauskritisch7443
    @durchauskritisch7443 8 лет назад

    Situation: i am toplane and got feedet and i want to help my team because im fed but when i go away the enemy toplaner take the turrets and he is pushing all the time. what do i do?

    • @moosesandmeese969
      @moosesandmeese969 8 лет назад +1

      Always be shoving the wave in and if you tp, immediately recall after helping your team and since you shoved it, it will take a while for them to push it back. And always remember that multiple people push faster than one person, so you can help your team get objectives faster than your opponent top Laner can push.

  • @gggghhhh5372
    @gggghhhh5372 8 лет назад

    how to deal with feed jax or tryndamere pushing no stop?

  • @jackwang860
    @jackwang860 7 лет назад

    problem is normally my team cant do without me in skimishes because they are behind. so we can only 5v4 leaving the top lane to just push. if im not with my team they lose a fight i tell them not to fight they get engaged on and all die

  • @botondszalay3944
    @botondszalay3944 8 лет назад +1

    That pantheon is the most famous Hungarian streamer :)

  • @dbspaceoditty
    @dbspaceoditty 8 лет назад

    split pusing is very season 4......can you do a video that explains split pushing? i am a kayle main and i play very split pushy. because i can EASILY 1v2 most champs. i feel VERY safe split pushing.
    but my team(probably people in there first or second season) they dont understand my 100-200CS lead as being a lead.....
    my team follows the enemy to my lane im pushing. which makes my split push useless. because my team leaves mid and chases for a minute. then one guy pushes out mid. then the team pushes out the lane i just pushed....
    maybe a video that explains why not only split pushing, but defending lanes....
    ive been in many games where my team is busy mid. and i lose two towers top, two towers bot, because my team wont defend there lane.
    so i split push so i can push bot to a tower. take a tower, TP top push a tower. so i pushed two lanes, took 2-3 towers.
    but like always, my team just wants to force mid down and ignore two lanes...
    ive taken what you said. and im going to use it to defend against anti split pushing.
    normally they just go 5v1 to what ever lane im in and work me....
    but my team c hases. instead of the one time they should push mid....when nobdoy is at mid.

  • @somamolnar1173
    @somamolnar1173 8 лет назад +1

    ADAM KISS

  • @LianJohn
    @LianJohn 8 лет назад

    Jesus this was very helpful thanks man
    one like from me :D

  • @limz7ds393
    @limz7ds393 8 лет назад

    Should have a match against trick. Now I ain't saying he's the best LoL player, but his split push power and presence is pretty good to test your ideas out. I'd also say that you should have also added that people should use "common sense".

  • @Pyrrha_Nikos
    @Pyrrha_Nikos 8 лет назад

    I find worse the fact that people dont know how to play WITH a splipusher. I'm in high gold, and in 90% of my games, my team panics when I go splitpushing. And if the enemy team sends multiple people to deal with me, my team just sits back and farm, or they try to walk to where I am, instead of pressuring another lane. It feels like they are either bronze or boosted

    • @johnsmith940
      @johnsmith940 8 лет назад

      I know right, its so sad. sometimes I gank bot lane or something get a double, rather than getting the tower they recall?? I have to spam ping its annoying

  • @marekklucka4407
    @marekklucka4407 8 лет назад

    I am a Singed main, but how would you counter him? Sometimes I am countered hard, but usually (80 % of games) people cannot counter me. How they can?

    • @theofilostsokou1
      @theofilostsokou1 8 лет назад

      The best way to counter singed is to disrespect him and don't give him attention. If you re against singed u need just to farm. And have an jungle with stun. Just this.

  • @timadamec
    @timadamec 8 лет назад

    So you have to DO something to counter the splitpusher (not just standing...)

  • @rususebastian9944
    @rususebastian9944 8 лет назад

    i rly like your video i want to see one more about counter picks and how to deal with

  • @Hog_TheLog
    @Hog_TheLog 8 лет назад

    I try to do the Leave pushing a lot but. in gold and down. People are stupid and go back being like (U idiot take the farm) Then proceed to go and farm the rest even tho i try to explain that the wave will push on its own. It is so annoying..

  • @Dippppy
    @Dippppy 8 лет назад

    If I'm behind on top I usually rush ZZ rot so I can stall the game and farm up

  • @NekoViper
    @NekoViper 8 лет назад

    Scrap! Don't go telling people how to deal with my Tryndamere.

  • @IkkezzUsedEmber
    @IkkezzUsedEmber 8 лет назад

    Scrap, i have a question, I'm a kled main, and i want to know how to deal with tryndamere, his damage is way too high since he builds crit and attack speed, he kills skaarl in like 3-4 autos and when i'm unmounted i don't have enough mobility to escape, but he has his E and Slow to catch up to me... what should i do? Perma ban? or is there another way to deal with it?

    • @HydramicLP
      @HydramicLP 8 лет назад

      it's an Skill matchup. Go for example take your 3 Auto buff first lvl 1 and use it instantly on tryn (before he gets any Rage) he is weak. try to get him into Tower Pre 6. otherwise play save. you are kled you are not an spitpusher. so ask for ganks, the trynd will go aggressive so freeze and u can get a few free kills Pre 6. but watch out you can't fight him at 6 even if you are 3/0 . hope I helped^^

    • @IvanVanncheskov
      @IvanVanncheskov 8 лет назад +1

      Get your jungler to camp. Tryndamere's damage can be really lackluster if he gets behind, and kled gets scary when ahead. so if your jungler can camp you and feed you two or three kills, you'll be fine. Also keep in mind that you have stronger poke. Using your snare and passive to get in trades then back into safety. Building a tanky item or two might not hurt either. Since trynd relies heavily on auto attacks, ninja tabi can help you shed some of the damage. I'm by now mean an expert but thats the advice i can give in case scrap doesn't see this.

    • @ungureanubogdan2398
      @ungureanubogdan2398 8 лет назад

      +HYDRAMICLP kled's W is a 4hit buff XD

    • @HydramicLP
      @HydramicLP 8 лет назад

      fuck xD. brain stopped working

    • @ohsombraa2131
      @ohsombraa2131 8 лет назад +1

      Play teemo vs him or heavy cc

  • @A_Dodge
    @A_Dodge 8 лет назад

    love tilting the enemy team when I play poppy top and dive and kill the enemy top lane many times over.

  • @eyeopener6980
    @eyeopener6980 8 лет назад

    hey keep up the gr8 work song after 3 min

  • @eucas7403
    @eucas7403 8 лет назад

    I feel really bad for that gnar

  • @flamezlyon682
    @flamezlyon682 8 лет назад

    I didn't quite understand 4... How does killing only the casters lead to you having a huge wave? Can someone explain?

    • @mercerwing1458
      @mercerwing1458 8 лет назад

      The caster minions deal the most damage and it takes a long time for the melee minions to kill eachother.

    • @sinslayr683
      @sinslayr683 8 лет назад

      Casters do the damage so when you kill them your minions won't die as fast. This causes a buildup of your own minions since the enemy minions will die faster (though not fast at all) less damage will be applied to your minions keeping them alive thus allowing the buildup. And since your minions outnumber the enemy minions it will cause the wave to push. This is how I think of it.

    • @NoblesseOblige-17
      @NoblesseOblige-17 8 лет назад

      Also, killing the melees would send your wave towards tower/next wave to be killed, while them having to kill melees themselves will slow them enough to unite with your next wave and it will keep snowballing until it crashes into the enemy turret as a big wave which can be capable of taking the turret down.

  • @Jannajx5
    @Jannajx5 8 лет назад

    My team are always noobs so none of this matters since everyone will always get fed and I won't be able to do anything.

  • @miuletzmitzu6641
    @miuletzmitzu6641 8 лет назад

    Can someone tell me how to deal with a split pusher if :
    He can 1v1 kinda everyone except maybe the top laner dunno, the top laner is kinda feed and we need him, if he goes we go into a 4v4 and lose without him, if 2 leave we go into a 3v4, if we all leave they can take easily a mid turret
    So what can i do? I always see a yasuo split pushing and thats how they kinda win the game

  • @Brightside187
    @Brightside187 2 года назад

    Why is the only video I found when searching this 5 fucking years old

    • @ScrapComputer
      @ScrapComputer  2 года назад

      It's one of my best videos / most useful. Hope it helped mate.

  • @team-tastic-germany37
    @team-tastic-germany37 8 лет назад

    very good job

  • @Prixmiz
    @Prixmiz 8 лет назад +2

    i fucking miss harambe

    • @NekoViper
      @NekoViper 8 лет назад

      Roses are red
      Harambe was shot
      My name is Rick Harrison
      And this is my Pawn shop.

  • @1st67mustang390
    @1st67mustang390 8 лет назад

    Super helpful. .just found you. subed

  • @satire9509
    @satire9509 8 лет назад

    Or play Singed, go full tank and just double farm at the enemy nexus all game long.

  • @DrK4ZE
    @DrK4ZE 8 лет назад

    ok someone HELP me out here, i started playing in the seaons 6 preseason and have 1300+ hours played and i have no idea what a fucking green ward is. To my knowledge there are the yellow trinkets, blue ward trinkets, and pink wards, and the stealth wards you get from sight stone/other support items/tracker jg item. Are green wards a term for a term for trinkets/sightstone wards? are they some mystery item i have never seen before? and if they are just a different name for one of the items i listed why the hell are they called green wards? theyre not green...

    • @cowgoesmoo2
      @cowgoesmoo2 8 лет назад

      Hahahaha green wards were formerly purchasable from the shop at 25 gp each. After the trinket update, only vision wards are purchasable.

    • @DrK4ZE
      @DrK4ZE 8 лет назад

      tysm

  • @xixyz1414
    @xixyz1414 8 лет назад

    Great guide but it doesnt work for bronze because things you claim will never happen i see happen every game

  • @timbloxrox1
    @timbloxrox1 7 лет назад

    Unless it's garen bc lol I'll just walk away because you can't stop him from moving then sit under tower and wait

  • @goblin8557
    @goblin8557 8 лет назад

    RUclipsr you know it would be nice if the gameplay you show is actually related to wha ur talking about maybe do it with ur friends or something :)

  • @sididiaby5784
    @sididiaby5784 8 лет назад

    did you stop streaming ??

    • @ScrapComputer
      @ScrapComputer  8 лет назад +1

      Hey Sidi, i have ceased streaming FOR NOW. I need to find out if i can stream in university or not :(

    • @sididiaby5784
      @sididiaby5784 8 лет назад

      Oh :( good luck scrap! I Hope you'll find a way

  • @Sleepzism1
    @Sleepzism1 8 лет назад

    Green wards and Old Nocturn splash lol

  • @sly1420
    @sly1420 8 лет назад +1

    Make a video how to deal with shit for brain team mates.

  • @nocsu8827
    @nocsu8827 8 лет назад

    Just follow them?! Most of the times theire splitpusher is to strong for this......

  • @IdontCare-ls1cw
    @IdontCare-ls1cw 8 лет назад +1

    Pres. Duterte is currently working on it :)

  • @awalmaulana8209
    @awalmaulana8209 8 лет назад

    please add subtitle

  • @Ketchup_Hans
    @Ketchup_Hans 8 лет назад

    How to counter spilt pusher pick Yorik;)

    • @benbarth8613
      @benbarth8613 8 лет назад

      so you can split 2 lanes at once!

  • @tacocat360
    @tacocat360 8 лет назад

    But in bronze nobody wards in the first place ;O

  • @trei18906
    @trei18906 8 лет назад

    3m

  • @zubozzzb5005
    @zubozzzb5005 8 лет назад

    Hey im that stupid to go into their jungle come on dude

  • @opgg736
    @opgg736 8 лет назад

    have a better map awaress

  • @عبداللهالقرشي-ر7د
    @عبداللهالقرشي-ر7د 8 лет назад

    i may agree about most of this tips but getting tanky when ur behind i gusse its a bad idea ur already behind being tanky means that they will kill u anyway in 3-5 sec longer which will not do u any favore if they start attacking the tower u will be useless cuz u cant kill them ur behind and ur little tanky ... scara onec said if ur behind get dmg items if ur ahead get tanky items .. sorry for the long speak but comeon u too talk alot in ur vid's -.-

    • @Shamitako
      @Shamitako 8 лет назад +4

      Uhh, no, always build tank when you're getting behind as a toplaner. Building tank means you'll still be useful to your team as a frontliner and makes it much harder to dive you and get even more fed. Trying to keep building damage means that you'll still do lackluster damage and you won't be able to survive anything they throw at you either

  • @jackwang860
    @jackwang860 7 лет назад

    just sayin in low elo #gold and below mind games dont really work. "put zz in ur jungle no ones that ballzy" in low elo they dont give a fk and teams cant capitalize on that they just let them get free shit.

  • @kaneki_kun6449
    @kaneki_kun6449 8 лет назад

    i understood nothing at all

  • @icoscx
    @icoscx 8 лет назад

    Auto generated Closed Captions in english not working, good accent.

  • @TobbeDraws
    @TobbeDraws 8 лет назад

    "dove"? :D

    • @IOEUIE
      @IOEUIE 5 лет назад

      It's the past tense of "to dive"

  • @an1malval185
    @an1malval185 7 лет назад

    Thx man . i hate trynda

  • @OfficialDuckox
    @OfficialDuckox 8 лет назад

    4Head

  • @fremzter
    @fremzter 8 лет назад

    Wards in low elo? #Kappa

  • @SamDustin0077
    @SamDustin0077 8 лет назад +1

    easy man, just ask everyone on ur team to buy a banner and a zzrot

  • @maiphone8522
    @maiphone8522 8 лет назад +1

    18 secs ago