Citizen , your review of this ebike sold me. I must have deep dived hours of youtube reviews trying to find the “perfect” ebike for my wife and myself. We are retiring real soon and needed something besides golf to keep me from getting old:) I mostly ride rear motor only but love that I can go all wheel drive and better yet for LONG RIDES. We went 19.29 miles , 385 ft elev gain 1h 28 min of actual riding and still had more than 70 percent battery! I was in pedal asst 2 mostly but I also cruised controlled it at 18 mph probably 15 minutes. Had a little hang up in customs but that worked itself out with the a little help from Fabulous customer service. I would recommend this ebike and this company to anyone. This ebike exceeded my high expectations! I got a Radmission 1 for my wife. She loves it for it’s simplicity!
Awesome!!! glad you like the EMX and that i may have helped you find the right bike for your needs :) it is definitely a cool little bike, i still need to do a range test on it. Stay young and ride safe!!!
I ordered 2 Road Warrior X2 60V bikes based only on this review and they are fantastic. They have a great build quality and attention to detail. The bike in rear wheel drive is very easy and manageable even for my daughter. The bike in all wheel drive has an incredible amount of power and works great in mountains. The order process from Canada to the US very easy and simple and you will not be disappointed in the bike or the company.
I'm thinking of purchasing one. I'm 6 2 240lbs. What do you think I'll get for range at full throttle? Will it be big enough for me. It's ours is 26x4 ? What is top speed ??thhx for help
Another great review, Citizen Cycle. You cover all the aspects that an e-bike enthusiast wants covered: comfort, throttle and PAS performance, uphill capabilities, range etc. Always look forward to your new videos! Keep it up.
Hi Bryan, Reporting back after my first ride on my FABulous EMX-Xtreme Dual 750’s Bike. In a word, WOW! My other bike is a single rear hub 750 Watt 20X4 Fat Bike which I modified with a 35 Amp controller and 52 volt battery. Despite all that, this EMX is at least twice the bike! As you pointed out, in just rear wheel drive, it’s like any other rear hub bike, but when you engage both motors, mash the throttle in say PAS 3, you first hear, then feel the difference. THEN, when you start to pedal, you better be paying attention and hanging on tight! This bike has serious acceleration and you also want to make sure you have optimum traction underneath you as well! I also love the KT-3 controller and display, (must take a look at the controller specs someday) The feature that allows the PAS level to control the speed level when using just throttle is great now that you can instantly over ride it just by pedaling. I also love the added bonus of having cruise control by just holding down the down button for a few seconds. Because I know that you always trade range for performance on a bike like this, I won’t be riding around using full throttle all the time, but when you come across a steep hill, or you just need to accelerate away from danger, it’s so nice to have all that power in reserve! I’m a rather compact senior and not comfortable on a lot of the larger ebikes out there, but this EMX almost seems tailor made for me. With a frame that is more like a BMX bicycle than a “moped” and the bicycle style seat post and seat, I can get full extension while pedaling, and with the low stand over height of the crossbar, I can comfortably move off the seat to straddling the bike as I come to a stop with complete comfort and control. One last thing, out of the five ebikes I’ve owned so far, this one has the best tires with a functional tread design, and a good feeling of grip and stability of any other stock tires I’ve come across. Don’t tell “FABulous, but I would have gladly paid $1,000 more! So nice to get such good value for your money! BTW, it was your first short introduction video of this bike that caught my interest.... THANK YOU!
Impressive review Larry. Makes me proud that the bike delivered on what you expected and more, i cant say enough but i really love my bikes and respect the peoples comments to help me make them better. The dual 500 is an awesome machine, but the dual 750 is a beast. People thought i was kidding when i said hold on when you accelerate. I drive it everywhere and people always stop and ask me what my bike is, then they try to race me haha. And i could of charged more but my goal is to keep it affordable and i wont cheap out on parts. I want everyone to have one, once shipping rates go down, i will lower price accordingly as well.
Hi Larry. Can I ask how tall you are? It would give me an idea of straddling height. I am 5' 4". Did you test ride first or just go for the dual 750 version?
@@bernlitzner2739 Hi Bern, I'm same height 5'4" This is my fifth and last Ebike, fits perfectly. Couldn't test ride I'm on the west coast. The owner, Lampro, is a great guy, and will treat you right. Dual 750 only way to go! Use both motors to place less load on the battery, just watch your surface for traction when starting out, front motor likes to do burnouts! lol
Citizen, I first saw info on this bike from your channel and it really appealed to me. I thought it was the best-looking e-bike I'd seen, plus great features at a competitive price. I ordered an EMX-Xtreme 500 e-bike on-line from Fabulous Ebikes and it was delivered a few days later. Seeing it in person confirmed how beautiful the design is and I was really pleased with the quality. When I had a question during installation I called Lampro, owner of the company, and he was very helpful. I'm 61 years old, almost 6'-1" tall, and 235 pounds, but the bike has enough adjustment in the seat & handlebars to provide me a very comfortable riding position. I've now put 269 km (167 miles) on the bike and am thoroughly enjoying it. I'm now on my second charge. The range I got on my initial first charge (from full charge down to 44.1v when it was transitioning to no bars but still had some juice) was 200.4 km (124.5 miles) with an average speed of 29.4 kph (18.26 mph) and a top speed of 54.4 kph (33.8 mph). That was 6 hours and 48 minutes of riding! Most of it was in pedal assist 4 & 5 and I do pedal almost constantly (for fitness). I had the front motor turned on approximately 50% of the time. I rode on a combination of paved & gravel roads that are moderately hilly. I had wanted to do that kind of range test with my first charge to give me an idea of how far I could venture out & still get back home. It is nice to know I actually can do more than a six-hour ride! My range test was with factory (speed-restricted to 20mph) settings. My model is equipped with two 500w motors, a 48v 30Ah (1,440w) battery, a 52-tooth chainring, a 11-32 tooth 8-speed cassette, twist throttle, lighting, full metal fenders, heavy-duty tubular rack, and color display. I'm now working on a second range test using predominantly pedal assist level three, with nearly constant pedaling, and both motors turned on most of the time. I'll report back when that test is completed. One observation about the dual motors is that on flat ground having two motors on doesn't draw any more power than one. They basically share the load. On a hill having both on makes quite a difference in speed but at the cost of drawing more power. The 18amp controller seems perfectly matched to the motors and pedal assist levels. This model truly 'Fabulous'. 😎
Wow that is some absolutely fantastic range! I really like the EMX extreme bike also, very sharp looking, build quality is great power is great battery capacity is great, I'm actually shocked that more people haven't caught on to how great this bike is for such a cheap price. It's also The only company I've worked with where people go out of their way to email me to tell me how awesome fabulous and Lampro are.
@@CitizenCycle925 I hope you still have your EMX-Xtreme! If so maybe you'd consider revisiting with a range test where you pedal it just like most rider's normal usage would be. It would be interesting to see what 'real world' range you would get. While mine has a 30 Ah battery, your 28.8 Ah battery is still a huge capacity. Your big battery deserves to be tested. Your results might encourage other manufacturers to offer larger batteries too.
@@rossmacintosh5652 I still have mine I let my dad take it home with him to Pennsylvania last time he was here so he is currently riding it but I'll get it back at some point
@@CitizenCycle925 Any chance Pops Citizen might enjoy doing a range test & reporting in to Citizen Central? (We need to see more of him says the Pops Citizen fan).
@@CitizenCycle925 I've now completed my second range test, still with the controller on factory-restricted settings. The range I got on this one (from full charge down to 43.6v when it had no bars but still had some juice) was 184.4 km (114.6 miles) with an average speed of 29.6 kph (18.39 mph) and a top speed of 55.2 kph (34.3 mph). That was 6 hours and 12 minutes of riding! Most of it was in pedal assist 3 & 4 and I do pedal almost constantly (for fitness but I pedal in a leisurely manner). This time I had the front motor turned on approximately 99% of the time. (I'd turn it off for slow speed manoeuvres). I rode on a combination of paved & gravel roads that are moderately hilly. Most of my rides were one hour plus without much stop & go which I presume may extend the range. I was surprised my average speed increased because riding predominantly on pedal assist 3 & 4 (vs. 4 & 5 in the earlier test) did seem more leisurely. Perhaps I'm getting more fit. What I learned: With pedalling I can comfortably ride more than 110 miles on one charge of the bikes standard 48v 30Ah battery. That translates into over six hours of riding for me. I've also learned I can likely extend the range by using the second motor less frequently. If I'm willing to slow down on the hills it would likely extend the range. The second motor and the associated acceleration boost it provides are really a godsend when I need to deal with traffic - like crossing a busy road. That performance boost can almost be considered a safety feature! The more I ride the EMX-Xtreme 500 e-bike from Fabulous Ebikes, the more I'd recommend it.
Your reviews are so complete, I feel like I had the bike myself for a day! With the peak power being around 1400 watts with a 48 volt battery, that means the controller is probably 30 amps. The typical 35 amp controller would give you 1680 watts, though they sometimes give a few watts more. I like standing up occasionally while riding because it gives my backside a rest from the seat! I prefer half twist throttles as well, but that extra wire on your thumb throttle may be setup that way to control input for the extra motor. It's a design choice by them, but other companies do it differently. On bikes with jumpy throttles, pedaling works better off road. However on bikes that allow you to fine tune the throttle response, the throttle can work better. I use a Phaserunner controller and can adjust the torque ramp up times, so the throttle is buttery smooth and precise, even when pushing over 2000 watts. Thanks again for the great review!
My Ferrari Red Dual 750’s model will arrive Oct. 26th. This will be my fifth ebike, I have a 29” inseam and expect this bike will feel custom made for me. Bryan does an enthusiastic, informative review, as usual on this bike! You left nothing out my friend! Many thanks!
@@CitizenCycle925 I will give my impression of the EMX-Xtreme Dual 750’s soon as I can. Be safe, keep up the great reviews, and tell your Pop to don a helmet! 🤪
Great job citizen! This is just the review I was waiting for! Ever since you did the first review on it! This ebike totally speaks to me! I’m gonna save so that I can buy the “big boy” next year!! Incredible bike!
Great review as always. That's impressive for a dual 500w bike. I'm interested in the 60v EMX extreme but only rear drive. I don't do much off roading, and staying within the law is my big concern with the 750w being the max here in Florida. Thanks again!
I am planning to get this next year, hoping that they will sort out any issues they may have with this bike. On their website the red and orange looks very similar so it is hard to tell which colour looks better. I am really liking the new 60 v batteries and the dual 750 watt motors. I also like the adjustments of the seat compared with other cafe style ebike as I'm also 6 feet tall and I can't get a full leg extension on my Rad mini ST. Thank you for showing us new products.
Yes in the pictures it is hard to show the orange. It is on the lighter side of Orange and there were only a few made in orange as a special color which we will not produce again to keep it a limited color. However when its dark it looks like the red.
Great review and comparisons. I seriously considered the EMX-Xtreme before ordering the X52. It's been proven that time never moves slower than when you are waiting for your ebike to ship lol.
I just ordered a bike from Fabulous. I am on the West Coast U.S. - NO sales tax, NO duty, FREE shipping AND that Exchange rate on U.S. vs. Canadian Dollar CAN'T be beat ! built in discount. :-) Did you order?
@@snosister Good job. I might have ordered one if someone had answered my question above. Instead I bought a Polarna M6 and couldn't be happier. It's an awesome bike.
Thanks for this review, there’s so much great info. This bike reminds me of my first bike - a Raleigh BMX that I rode way past the time it fit me - my knees were hitting the handlebars. Which seat did you put on this? I like the big gel seats as well. Now imagine that bike with a second battery secured to the rack and a toggle switch to jump between them.
you are a prolific Videographer, most people have no ide how much work it is to produce, so figuring how much time you must have taken to do just 23:39 when I was doing work with KVCR in San Bernardino, it was about 5 to 1. to the finished run. and that was including all the prep time, editing, and actual shot time, but we had a team. Kudos to you for all the work you do.
Thankyou for your great in-depth review of the Fabulous EMX-Xtreme. I don't understand why there aren't more RUclips reviews for this eBike. Also, I see this review is over a year ago so I was wondering why you never got around to reveiwing the upgraded dual 750 watt motor model? Is it perhaps because it's just recently been released? I've ordered the upgraded dual 750 watt model motor (in transit being shipped as I write this) mostly based on your reviews of it's smaller sibling. Hope you get around to it...but I'll have recieved the bike by then so I guess it woud be a mute point. 😊
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for your prompt reply. I'll certainly check out your review. I understand the bikes are similar except for wheel size and frame. Thanks again for your great reviews. 👍
The Spark CycleWorks Bandit is something worth you getting your hands on for a review. It’s not an eBike but an eMoped that goes 35+mph, it’s built like a tank and a blast to cruise around town on.
Nice review, I have the 60v dual 750w coming in a day or so. I think u can change the kt3 setting, to get full power from the throttle without having to pedal. CHEERS
got issues with my road warrior se :(... used it for 9 full weeks and now something is up with where they jamed the cables in (above the battery ) also the display is now showing error info 1. So something related to the throttle & the battery can no longer lock... So I had Bad luck with the first batch of bikes they where selling. The brakes, the motors, the wheels, the body. Are all still fine. UGHhh this is really annoying !
Nice! I enjoy all your reviews. 👍 I'd want to chuck that thumb throttle too! If the electrical values and number of conductors match, maybe a friend with electronics experience could help adapt the cable to your existing harness connector.
I think i can get the twist throttle if people want. We use thumb throttle because we have trigger shifters. I chose these because it makes for a better riding experience. But in the future i might give the option, throw in the box both and people can switch on their own. For those that bought without, we will gladly send them free upgrades.
@@CitizenCycle925 The only real way to use a twist throttle is to use the knob shifters like your other bikes. so the question is the trigger shifter more important or the twist throttle. I don't really switch gears much on these bikes so 1 up for throttle, just that it is so comfortable the trigger shifters. I will work out a solution soon.
@@furious-ebikes I used to have a Pedego with the knob shifters and a twist throttle and I hated it. Trigger shifters are the way forward. And I do love the thumb throttle, it's great to relax my right hand after using a mouse all day in my office. However, I do think that for the moped style ebikes a twist makes more sense.
Waas happening my brother?… GREAT review… my buddy Mark decided to get the 2) 500 watt motor version in blk (its goin thru customs as I type this). The reason he didnt go with the 2) 750 version is because the battery is 20ah….versus the 28.8 on the 2) 500 EMX Xtreme…. I wonder if a 750 in the back and s 500 in the front would be more controllable?….. well.., they're the experts…… thnx for all you do homey!
BTW….. would LOVE to see a review on the Christini AWD (what the military uses)….. They are pricey so yeah, more for the elite people with plump wallets, lol
48v x 28.8Ah = 1,382Wh 60v x 20Ah = 1,200Wh not big difference, dont be fooled by the Ah, Wh count more. Except 60v bike pulls ridiculous speed acceleration so maybe battery performs a little less in this case as i have been testing.
@Fabulous ebikes…Thanks for the clarification…. Mark & I are both lookin forward to it! Btw, Bryan @ Citizen Cycle is a great advocate for you guys to work with… His enthusiasm is enjoyable! Keep up the good work. I love what Im seein..
@@joethompson2910 Yes Mr. Citizen is a great person, we are thinking of sending him a new toy, maybe the 60v Road Warrior X2. I can honestly say its a scary ride haha but we love it. I think i will send him a race video from a 500watt dual against the 750 dual 60v.
One thing I wonder is which is better, having two 500 watt motors in all wheel drive or having a single 1000 watt motor? I think it would be pretty close in power but the all wheel drive will always have better traction.
Another great review. I wish they let you test the 750 dual motor version. From the specs, it really sounds awesome. By the way, what is the lowest seat height with the stock seat and what is the stand-over height of the frame? Thanks in advance.
Juiced bikes will discontinue it’s Hyper Scorpion and Hyper Scrambler. Seems there is an inability to secure a (patent?) that legally connects them to those names. Seems they’ve been in some sort of litigation over rights to those names. Having made no progress they (it would appear) decided to give it up. They say they will reintroduce the bikes later this year under different names albeit still Juiced bikes. Their web site has a deep price reduction for models currently in inventory. Just saw your race footage with Ariel Rider. I keep hearing great things about that bike. Would have got that if it came in step through. Year that Aerial Ryder bike is a beast!
You are very detailed on your reviews. No thumb throttles for me. Twist or bust. * At least they put the TT on the right side, most locate it on the left (bad)
Yeah, but does the rt hand throttle interfere with the shifting? My bike has a Lt hand thumb throttle…. I dont like it but my shifters are on the rt side…. For me, I think having owned 9 motorcycles in my life Id prefer a twist throttle on the right and shifters on the left….. well, guess I can get used to anything….
@@joethompson2910 the thumb throttle is special, it has wire connector on top so that it doesn't interfere with the trigger shifters, i did think about this issue, i didn't want that ugly top shifter with buttons. Thats why the throttle connectors are not standard and hard to find on after sale markets. We are experimenting with twist throttle now, update soon.
Have you ever used a trigger throttle? I have one on my electric scooter, and find it easy to use, but have never seen one on a bike before. My throttle is built into what's called a minimotors EY3 display.
@@landonferguson7282 Yes that's exactly right, I'm shocked that you remembered that, haha. You may be interested to know I have a mega fast scooter arriving next week, So I'll have a review out on that one before Thanksgiving probably.
@@CitizenCycle925 awesome. I have a diy ebike, but after I bought a kaabo wolf warrior, I never ride the ebike anymore because the scooter is so much more fun to ride.
I just ordered a bike from Fabulous. I am on the West Coast U.S. - NO sales tax, NO duty, FREE shipping AND that Exchange rate on U.S. vs. Canadian Dollar CAN'T be beat ! built in discount. :-) Did you order?
I like this bike. Looking forward to seeing the 60v Dual motor version. My Grizzly V2 can switch from Front, Rear, DUAL, Pedal any combo any order. They are finally caught up on Grizzly back orders and have started sending out promo bikes to reviewers. Now's an appropriate time to show interest or anytime later as they need more press to promote more sales as summer approaches.
@@D-Saved925 this is definitely one of the smaller bikes available out there I don't remember the exact minimum seat height but I think 4ft11 would be OK she's not going to be able to flatfoot the bike but she should be tall enough
@CitizenCycle925 okay thanks! I just ordered the emx ultimate 60v for myself after watching your reviews! I'm super excited! I was also looking at the Mini Step Elite. However on the older model you reviewed i was surprised to see that your wife seemed to have difficulty touching the floor. Do you think the newer model might be shorter? It says 32in seat height and 31in if I remove the seat post. Thank you again! Love your videos
@D-Saved925 I haven't seen the newer model in person so I don't know if the seat height is any shorter. My wife is 5 ft 4 and she typically rides with the seat height around 31-32 in if that gives you any help
The tyre leaves the rim when you get a puncture on a Fat bike,that's why I wouldn't have one😱 My son has one,and that's why he doesn't ride it anymore,he was going about 10mph got front puncture, Tyre left rim, it threw him off He said it was like riding on ice, the wheel just went from under him damaged his wrist and shoulder😰
@@CitizenCycle925 Please do. I enjoy your channel, I do wish you would give the grades of any hills you go up, and also stability info to, I rarely ride hands off but it gives a really good indication of over all rideability. Year ago I bought a bike that was impossible to ride hands off, I hated riding it hands on because it was so unstable and constantly required attention/ correction to keep it going on a straight line, like one of those nasty shopping carts you occasionally get.
Citizen , your review of this ebike sold me. I must have deep dived hours of youtube reviews trying to find the “perfect” ebike for my wife and myself. We are retiring real soon and needed something besides golf to keep me from getting old:) I mostly ride rear motor only but love that I can go all wheel drive and better yet for LONG RIDES. We went 19.29 miles , 385 ft elev gain 1h 28 min of actual riding and still had more than 70 percent battery! I was in pedal asst 2 mostly but I also cruised controlled it at 18 mph probably 15 minutes. Had a little hang up in customs but that worked itself out with the a little help from Fabulous customer service. I would recommend this ebike and this company to anyone. This ebike exceeded my high expectations! I got a Radmission 1 for my wife. She loves it for it’s simplicity!
Awesome!!! glad you like the EMX and that i may have helped you find the right bike for your needs :) it is definitely a cool little bike, i still need to do a range test on it. Stay young and ride safe!!!
I ordered 2 Road Warrior X2 60V bikes based only on this review and they are fantastic. They have a great build quality and attention to detail. The bike in rear wheel drive is very easy and manageable even for my daughter. The bike in all wheel drive has an incredible amount of power and works great in mountains. The order process from Canada to the US very easy and simple and you will not be disappointed in the bike or the company.
I'm thinking of purchasing one. I'm 6 2 240lbs. What do you think I'll get for range at full throttle? Will it be big enough for me. It's ours is 26x4 ? What is top speed ??thhx for help
Another great review, Citizen Cycle. You cover all the aspects that an e-bike enthusiast wants covered: comfort, throttle and PAS performance, uphill capabilities, range etc. Always look forward to your new videos! Keep it up.
Hi Bryan, Reporting back after my first ride on my FABulous EMX-Xtreme Dual 750’s Bike. In a word, WOW! My other bike is a single rear hub 750 Watt 20X4 Fat Bike which I modified with a 35 Amp controller and 52 volt battery. Despite all that, this EMX is at least twice the bike! As you pointed out, in just rear wheel drive, it’s like any other rear hub bike, but when you engage both motors, mash the throttle in say PAS 3, you first hear, then feel the difference. THEN, when you start to pedal, you better be paying attention and hanging on tight! This bike has serious acceleration and you also want to make sure you have optimum traction underneath you as well! I also love the KT-3 controller and display, (must take a look at the controller specs someday) The feature that allows the PAS level to control the speed level when using just throttle is great now that you can instantly over ride it just by pedaling. I also love the added bonus of having cruise control by just holding down the down button for a few seconds. Because I know that you always trade range for performance on a bike like this, I won’t be riding around using full throttle all the time, but when you come across a steep hill, or you just need to accelerate away from danger, it’s so nice to have all that power in reserve! I’m a rather compact senior and not comfortable on a lot of the larger ebikes out there, but this EMX almost seems tailor made for me. With a frame that is more like a BMX bicycle than a “moped” and the bicycle style seat post and seat, I can get full extension while pedaling, and with the low stand over height of the crossbar, I can comfortably move off the seat to straddling the bike as I come to a stop with complete comfort and control. One last thing, out of the five ebikes I’ve owned so far, this one has the best tires with a functional tread design, and a good feeling of grip and stability of any other stock tires I’ve come across. Don’t tell “FABulous, but I would have gladly paid $1,000 more! So nice to get such good value for your money! BTW, it was your first short introduction video of this bike that caught my interest.... THANK YOU!
Impressive review Larry. Makes me proud that the bike delivered on what you expected and more, i cant say enough but i really love my bikes and respect the peoples comments to help me make them better. The dual 500 is an awesome machine, but the dual 750 is a beast. People thought i was kidding when i said hold on when you accelerate. I drive it everywhere and people always stop and ask me what my bike is, then they try to race me haha. And i could of charged more but my goal is to keep it affordable and i wont cheap out on parts. I want everyone to have one, once shipping rates go down, i will lower price accordingly as well.
Hi Larry. Can I ask how tall you are? It would give me an idea of straddling height. I am 5' 4". Did you test ride first or just go for the dual 750 version?
@@bernlitzner2739
Hi Bern, I'm same height 5'4" This is my fifth and last Ebike, fits perfectly. Couldn't test ride I'm on the west coast. The owner, Lampro, is a great guy, and will treat you right. Dual 750 only way to go! Use both motors to place less load on the battery, just watch your surface for traction when starting out, front motor likes to do burnouts! lol
@@larrybowers64 Thx Larry! Ordered one in black. Looking forward to it. Hurry up spring!
Hi Larry, I'm hoping ask you about your ebike experiences, looked like you've owned a few! Cheers and thank you.
Rich
NVan, BC
Citizen, I first saw info on this bike from your channel and it really appealed to me. I thought it was the best-looking e-bike I'd seen, plus great features at a competitive price. I ordered an EMX-Xtreme 500 e-bike on-line from Fabulous Ebikes and it was delivered a few days later. Seeing it in person confirmed how beautiful the design is and I was really pleased with the quality. When I had a question during installation I called Lampro, owner of the company, and he was very helpful. I'm 61 years old, almost 6'-1" tall, and 235 pounds, but the bike has enough adjustment in the seat & handlebars to provide me a very comfortable riding position. I've now put 269 km (167 miles) on the bike and am thoroughly enjoying it. I'm now on my second charge. The range I got on my initial first charge (from full charge down to 44.1v when it was transitioning to no bars but still had some juice) was 200.4 km (124.5 miles) with an average speed of 29.4 kph (18.26 mph) and a top speed of 54.4 kph (33.8 mph). That was 6 hours and 48 minutes of riding! Most of it was in pedal assist 4 & 5 and I do pedal almost constantly (for fitness). I had the front motor turned on approximately 50% of the time. I rode on a combination of paved & gravel roads that are moderately hilly. I had wanted to do that kind of range test with my first charge to give me an idea of how far I could venture out & still get back home. It is nice to know I actually can do more than a six-hour ride! My range test was with factory (speed-restricted to 20mph) settings. My model is equipped with two 500w motors, a 48v 30Ah (1,440w) battery, a 52-tooth chainring, a 11-32 tooth 8-speed cassette, twist throttle, lighting, full metal fenders, heavy-duty tubular rack, and color display. I'm now working on a second range test using predominantly pedal assist level three, with nearly constant pedaling, and both motors turned on most of the time. I'll report back when that test is completed. One observation about the dual motors is that on flat ground having two motors on doesn't draw any more power than one. They basically share the load. On a hill having both on makes quite a difference in speed but at the cost of drawing more power. The 18amp controller seems perfectly matched to the motors and pedal assist levels. This model truly 'Fabulous'. 😎
Wow that is some absolutely fantastic range! I really like the EMX extreme bike also, very sharp looking, build quality is great power is great battery capacity is great, I'm actually shocked that more people haven't caught on to how great this bike is for such a cheap price. It's also The only company I've worked with where people go out of their way to email me to tell me how awesome fabulous and Lampro are.
@@CitizenCycle925 I hope you still have your EMX-Xtreme! If so maybe you'd consider revisiting with a range test where you pedal it just like most rider's normal usage would be. It would be interesting to see what 'real world' range you would get. While mine has a 30 Ah battery, your 28.8 Ah battery is still a huge capacity. Your big battery deserves to be tested. Your results might encourage other manufacturers to offer larger batteries too.
@@rossmacintosh5652 I still have mine I let my dad take it home with him to Pennsylvania last time he was here so he is currently riding it but I'll get it back at some point
@@CitizenCycle925 Any chance Pops Citizen might enjoy doing a range test & reporting in to Citizen Central? (We need to see more of him says the Pops Citizen fan).
@@CitizenCycle925 I've now completed my second range test, still with the controller on factory-restricted settings. The range I got on this one (from full charge down to 43.6v when it had no bars but still had some juice) was 184.4 km (114.6 miles) with an average speed of 29.6 kph (18.39 mph) and a top speed of 55.2 kph (34.3 mph). That was 6 hours and 12 minutes of riding! Most of it was in pedal assist 3 & 4 and I do pedal almost constantly (for fitness but I pedal in a leisurely manner). This time I had the front motor turned on approximately 99% of the time. (I'd turn it off for slow speed manoeuvres). I rode on a combination of paved & gravel roads that are moderately hilly. Most of my rides were one hour plus without much stop & go which I presume may extend the range. I was surprised my average speed increased because riding predominantly on pedal assist 3 & 4 (vs. 4 & 5 in the earlier test) did seem more leisurely. Perhaps I'm getting more fit.
What I learned: With pedalling I can comfortably ride more than 110 miles on one charge of the bikes standard 48v 30Ah battery. That translates into over six hours of riding for me. I've also learned I can likely extend the range by using the second motor less frequently. If I'm willing to slow down on the hills it would likely extend the range. The second motor and the associated acceleration boost it provides are really a godsend when I need to deal with traffic - like crossing a busy road. That performance boost can almost be considered a safety feature! The more I ride the EMX-Xtreme 500 e-bike from Fabulous Ebikes, the more I'd recommend it.
Your reviews are so complete, I feel like I had the bike myself for a day! With the peak power being around 1400 watts with a 48 volt battery, that means the controller is probably 30 amps. The typical 35 amp controller would give you 1680 watts, though they sometimes give a few watts more.
I like standing up occasionally while riding because it gives my backside a rest from the seat! I prefer half twist throttles as well, but that extra wire on your thumb throttle may be setup that way to control input for the extra motor. It's a design choice by them, but other companies do it differently.
On bikes with jumpy throttles, pedaling works better off road. However on bikes that allow you to fine tune the throttle response, the throttle can work better. I use a Phaserunner controller and can adjust the torque ramp up times, so the throttle is buttery smooth and precise, even when pushing over 2000 watts. Thanks again for the great review!
My Ferrari Red Dual 750’s model will arrive Oct. 26th. This will be my fifth ebike, I have a 29” inseam and expect this bike will feel custom made for me. Bryan does an enthusiastic, informative review, as usual on this bike! You left nothing out my friend! Many thanks!
Thank you, your helpful...
Glad you liked it! You'll have to tell me what the dual 750s experience is like and how it compares to your other ebikes.
@@CitizenCycle925 I will give my impression of the EMX-Xtreme Dual 750’s soon as I can. Be safe, keep up the great reviews, and tell your Pop to don a helmet! 🤪
Great job citizen! This is just the review I was waiting for! Ever since you did the first review on it! This ebike totally speaks to me! I’m gonna save so that I can buy the “big boy” next year!! Incredible bike!
Glad you enjoyed the video, great little bike 🙂 Guess we know where your tax return is going....
@@CitizenCycle925 haha exactly!
Great review as always. That's impressive for a dual 500w bike. I'm interested in the 60v EMX extreme but only rear drive. I don't do much off roading, and staying within the law is my big concern with the 750w being the max here in Florida. Thanks again!
I am planning to get this next year, hoping that they will sort out any issues they may have with this bike. On their website the red and orange looks very similar so it is hard to tell which colour looks better. I am really liking the new 60 v batteries and the dual 750 watt motors. I also like the adjustments of the seat compared with other cafe style ebike as I'm also 6 feet tall and I can't get a full leg extension on my Rad mini ST. Thank you for showing us new products.
Yes in the pictures it is hard to show the orange. It is on the lighter side of Orange and there were only a few made in orange as a special color which we will not produce again to keep it a limited color. However when its dark it looks like the red.
Great review and comparisons. I seriously considered the EMX-Xtreme before ordering the X52. It's been proven that time never moves slower than when you are waiting for your ebike to ship lol.
Great review. Question: is there any duty when shipped to the US from Canada?
I just ordered a bike from Fabulous. I am on the West Coast U.S. - NO sales tax, NO duty, FREE shipping AND that Exchange rate on U.S. vs. Canadian Dollar CAN'T be beat ! built in discount. :-) Did you order?
@@snosister Good job. I might have ordered one if someone had answered my question above. Instead I bought a Polarna M6 and couldn't be happier. It's an awesome bike.
Thanks for this review, there’s so much great info. This bike reminds me of my first bike - a Raleigh BMX that I rode way past the time it fit me - my knees were hitting the handlebars. Which seat did you put on this? I like the big gel seats as well. Now imagine that bike with a second battery secured to the rack and a toggle switch to jump between them.
you are a prolific Videographer, most people have no ide how much work it is to produce,
so figuring how much time you must have taken to do just 23:39
when I was doing work with KVCR in San Bernardino, it was about 5 to 1. to the finished run.
and that was including all the prep time, editing, and actual shot time, but we had a team.
Kudos to you for all the work you do.
Thank you for noticing the effort! 😁Videos like this one take me about 20-25 hours of work to complete.
Thankyou for your great in-depth review of the Fabulous EMX-Xtreme. I don't understand why there aren't more RUclips reviews for this eBike. Also, I see this review is over a year ago so I was wondering why you never got around to reveiwing the upgraded dual 750 watt motor model? Is it perhaps because it's just recently been released? I've ordered the upgraded dual 750 watt model motor (in transit being shipped as I write this) mostly based on your reviews of it's smaller sibling. Hope you get around to it...but I'll have recieved the bike by then so I guess it woud be a mute point. 😊
Never tried the dual 750w EMX but recently did some videos on the dual 750W Road Warrior..
@@CitizenCycle925 Thanks for your prompt reply. I'll certainly check out your review. I understand the bikes are similar except for wheel size and frame. Thanks again for your great reviews. 👍
The Spark CycleWorks Bandit is something worth you getting your hands on for a review. It’s not an eBike but an eMoped that goes 35+mph, it’s built like a tank and a blast to cruise around town on.
Nice review, I have the 60v dual 750w coming in a day or so. I think u can change the kt3 setting, to get full power from the throttle without having to pedal. CHEERS
the one U r talkin about I am waiting for !!
Great job my friend!
I'm definitely getting the dual 750w motor version
If you get a puncture the tyre will leave the rim and you will fall off😱
got issues with my road warrior se :(... used it for 9 full weeks and now something is up with where they jamed the cables in (above the battery )
also the display is now showing error info 1. So something related to the throttle
& the battery can no longer lock... So I had Bad luck with the first batch of bikes they where selling.
The brakes, the motors, the wheels, the body. Are all still fine. UGHhh this is really annoying !
Thanks for the informative review 👍🏻
Try the Mustache e-bikes,I have the 2019 Friday with the BOSCH battery and motor, thanks!
Nice! I enjoy all your reviews. 👍
I'd want to chuck that thumb throttle too! If the electrical values and number of conductors match, maybe a friend with electronics experience could help adapt the cable to your existing harness connector.
I think i can get the twist throttle if people want. We use thumb throttle because we have trigger shifters. I chose these because it makes for a better riding experience. But in the future i might give the option, throw in the box both and people can switch on their own. For those that bought without, we will gladly send them free upgrades.
@@furious-ebikes Next level customer service! 👍👍
Rare these days.
@@furious-ebikes or maybe throttle type could be an option to select when placing their order.
@@CitizenCycle925 The only real way to use a twist throttle is to use the knob shifters like your other bikes. so the question is the trigger shifter more important or the twist throttle. I don't really switch gears much on these bikes so 1 up for throttle, just that it is so comfortable the trigger shifters. I will work out a solution soon.
@@furious-ebikes I used to have a Pedego with the knob shifters and a twist throttle and I hated it. Trigger shifters are the way forward. And I do love the thumb throttle, it's great to relax my right hand after using a mouse all day in my office. However, I do think that for the moped style ebikes a twist makes more sense.
08:50 I need that basket!
there isnt a lot of info on these bikes out there. im looking at this but the 60v model, or the shadow step. and i cant find anything on either one
Is the throttle on the EMX and the Ariel x52 all or nothing or are you able to ease into it and accelerate slower? Tia
Waas happening my brother?…
GREAT review… my buddy Mark decided to get the 2) 500 watt motor version in blk (its goin thru customs as I type this). The reason he didnt go with the 2) 750 version is because the battery is 20ah….versus the 28.8 on the 2) 500 EMX Xtreme….
I wonder if a 750 in the back and s 500 in the front would be more controllable?….. well.., they're the experts…… thnx for all you do homey!
BTW….. would LOVE to see a review on the Christini AWD (what the military uses)….. They are pricey so yeah, more for the elite people with plump wallets, lol
48v x 28.8Ah = 1,382Wh 60v x 20Ah = 1,200Wh not big difference, dont be fooled by the Ah, Wh count more. Except 60v bike pulls ridiculous speed acceleration so maybe battery performs a little less in this case as i have been testing.
@Fabulous ebikes…Thanks for the clarification…. Mark & I are both lookin forward to it! Btw, Bryan @ Citizen Cycle is a great advocate for you guys to work with… His enthusiasm is enjoyable! Keep up the good work. I love what Im seein..
@@joethompson2910 Yes Mr. Citizen is a great person, we are thinking of sending him a new toy, maybe the 60v Road Warrior X2. I can honestly say its a scary ride haha but we love it. I think i will send him a race video from a 500watt dual against the 750 dual 60v.
@Fabulous ebikes…👍🏻
One thing I wonder is which is better, having two 500 watt motors in all wheel drive or having a single 1000 watt motor? I think it would be pretty close in power but the all wheel drive will always have better traction.
Great great great video.......
On their website they only have a 20 amp battery. I couldn't find a 28 amp battery on their website anywhere!
Another great review. I wish they let you test the 750 dual motor version. From the specs, it really sounds awesome. By the way, what is the lowest seat height with the stock seat and what is the stand-over height of the frame? Thanks in advance.
stand over is 27". I am 5'1" and it fits perfect!
@@susy0360 Nice! Thank you for the info!
Juiced bikes will discontinue it’s Hyper Scorpion and Hyper Scrambler. Seems there is an inability to secure a (patent?) that legally connects them to those names. Seems they’ve been in some sort of litigation over rights to those names. Having made no progress they (it would appear) decided to give it up. They say they will reintroduce the bikes later this year under different names albeit still Juiced bikes. Their web site has a deep price reduction for models currently in inventory. Just saw your race footage with Ariel Rider. I keep hearing great things about that bike. Would have got that if it came in step through. Year that Aerial Ryder bike is a beast!
How is the suspension on this one? What’s the travel?
You are very detailed on your reviews. No thumb throttles for me. Twist or bust. * At least they put the TT on the right side, most locate it on the left (bad)
Yeah, but does the rt hand throttle interfere with the shifting?
My bike has a Lt hand thumb throttle…. I dont like it but my shifters are on the rt side…. For me, I think having owned 9 motorcycles in my life Id prefer a twist throttle on the right and shifters on the left….. well, guess I can get used to anything….
@@joethompson2910 the thumb throttle is special, it has wire connector on top so that it doesn't interfere with the trigger shifters, i did think about this issue, i didn't want that ugly top shifter with buttons. Thats why the throttle connectors are not standard and hard to find on after sale markets. We are experimenting with twist throttle now, update soon.
@@joethompson2910 I can confirm the thumb throttle had no interference with the trigger shifters
@Fab… Sweet
@CC…that explains the connector B
i agree 💯 fabolous gets it 👍
Have you ever used a trigger throttle? I have one on my electric scooter, and find it easy to use, but have never seen one on a bike before. My throttle is built into what's called a minimotors EY3 display.
The only trigger throttle I've ever used was on a super fast electric scooter.
@@CitizenCycle925 I'm guessing on the Apollo scooter a guy let you test.
@@landonferguson7282 Yes that's exactly right, I'm shocked that you remembered that, haha. You may be interested to know I have a mega fast scooter arriving next week, So I'll have a review out on that one before Thanksgiving probably.
@@CitizenCycle925 awesome. I have a diy ebike, but after I bought a kaabo wolf warrior, I never ride the ebike anymore because the scooter is so much more fun to ride.
What camera and mic are you using
GoPro 8 and a lapel mic from Purple Panda
Wondering if there are customs charges when purchasing an ebike from Canada. Emailed Fabulous, no response.
I just ordered a bike from Fabulous. I am on the West Coast U.S. - NO sales tax, NO duty, FREE shipping AND that Exchange rate on U.S. vs. Canadian Dollar CAN'T be beat ! built in discount. :-) Did you order?
Wonder why they didn’t use the box bars , given the name, design , and styling . Would have been perfect
Where it's at - Fabulous EMX Xtreme 60v
yes, looks incredible!
Does this bike have torque or cadence sensor?
Cadence
Sending support from ERMIN O Sis
I like this bike.
Looking forward to seeing the 60v Dual motor version.
My Grizzly V2 can switch from Front, Rear, DUAL, Pedal any combo any order.
They are finally caught up on Grizzly back orders and have started sending out promo bikes to reviewers. Now's an appropriate time to show interest or anytime later as they need more press to promote more sales as summer approaches.
What’s the price?
$3,358.00 CDN for dual 750’s Mine arrives Oct. 26th eight days after ordering to my home in Surrey BC
$2182.80 USD
@@larrybowers64 3,199 you only pay 1 tax in BC, others can pay more tax in canada...USA no Tax. this is the dual motor version.
Great video, but i think you made a mistake, the emx-xtreme 500watt is 48T
Mine is 42T, double checked it, maybe it was a one-off. I might look into swapping it out, could be a good video 🙂 never done that before.
👍🏻
@@CitizenCycle925 Very Strange, sending one to you tomorrow 52T
@@furious-ebikes sweet! Will probably make a good difference. 🙂
That was really close if you put the 60v battery on the EMX you would win 🏆
This bike is a clone of my CSC 750 XP--they offer that bigger battery also.
How does your wife fit on this bike? My gf is 4'11" and I'm wondering if you think this would go low enough for her
@@D-Saved925 this is definitely one of the smaller bikes available out there I don't remember the exact minimum seat height but I think 4ft11 would be OK she's not going to be able to flatfoot the bike but she should be tall enough
@CitizenCycle925 okay thanks! I just ordered the emx ultimate 60v for myself after watching your reviews! I'm super excited!
I was also looking at the Mini Step Elite. However on the older model you reviewed i was surprised to see that your wife seemed to have difficulty touching the floor. Do you think the newer model might be shorter? It says 32in seat height and 31in if I remove the seat post.
Thank you again! Love your videos
@D-Saved925 I haven't seen the newer model in person so I don't know if the seat height is any shorter. My wife is 5 ft 4 and she typically rides with the seat height around 31-32 in if that gives you any help
@CitizenCycle925 okay great! That does help. Thanks for your response
I tried the dual 750w here in Montreal! 😱😱😱😱
How was it? Did it feel stable at high speed?
@@grouchydude3448 It was soooooo fast, stable and so comfortable!!!!
@@grouchydude3448 it is stable and has 52T in front. But dont try to pedal from stop position on level 5 or you might launch the bike in space :)
@@furious-ebikes bahaha 😂
@@susy0360 I'm jealous you got to try that one. 😁
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put that bike up against a 1000 watt bafang ultra mid drive, smaller tires obviously always have better acceleration.
The tyre leaves the rim
when you get a puncture on a
Fat bike,that's why I wouldn't have one😱
My son has one,and that's why he doesn't ride it anymore,he was going about
10mph got front puncture,
Tyre left rim, it threw him off
He said it was like riding on ice, the wheel just went from under him
damaged his wrist and shoulder😰
Is the bike stable hands off, freewheeling, peddling, single and dual motor?
I will have to give it a try and let you know
@@CitizenCycle925 Please do.
I enjoy your channel,
I do wish you would give the grades of any hills you go up, and also stability info to, I rarely ride hands off but it gives a really good indication of over all rideability.
Year ago I bought a bike that was impossible to ride hands off, I hated riding it hands on because it was so unstable and constantly required attention/ correction to keep it going on a straight line, like one of those nasty shopping carts you occasionally get.