Praise the Lord. It's amazing just how long God will woo us to bring people to Himself. Even more awesome, you were predestined before the foundation of the world. A very humbling thing that the Lord has revealed to us through His Word. I look forward to seeing you in the life to come, sister. God bless you, and may the peace of Christ be with you all the days of your life. :)
KnownUniverse there is no reason to believe in a god. Praying does nothing and there is no soul or afterlife. Live in a delusion if you want but just know that you don't find out the truth when you die. When you die you cease to exist.
Have a read of the Gospel of John KnownUniverse. It is written for people like you. Ignore ignorant comments that claim they know that there is no life after death. That's quite a claim if that person claims that Jesus isn't for real: how exactly, according to their world view, can they know that?! If you will have Him, Jesus will rescue you and welcome you in to relationship with himself now and into eternity. Trust in Him and what He Has done on the cross. Feel free to message me if you want to know more.
I use to believe without evidence but now that I’ve seen much evidence I feel I’ve grown more firm and bold in my faith for the Bible being the ultimate truth
Mauselio Escobar May I ask: what made you believe without evidence? I mean, why did you believe in the Christian faith instead of the Islamic faith, for example?
Faith is blind by definition... the biblical definition even. If there was evidence for god you wouldnt say you have faith, you would just give the reason to believe. Simple as that. Presupposing, or having faith in something is no way to determine truth, as you can presuppose or have faith in anything.
God has used this ministry in my life over the last few months in a big way. We need more faithful Christians in total rebellion against the world for the glory of Christ and the advancement of His Gospel. Atheist, stop brain gassing all over us and acknowledge the God you suppress in unrighteousness. Repent and Believe. Great Work Jeff. Blessings.
Ah yes, as does the great alien overlord zorkzork. I know because I talked to him… well he wasn’t there, and he didn’t respond, but because I pretend he’s real that means that he is real
@@lepidoptera9337 Your comments on these boards are so silly, trollish and ignorant. You are wrong but don't take OUR word for it: you will find out for yourself soon enough!
I been sobbin I little, but I’m keeping it together. I get choked up thinkin about adopting. Just being out there with a sign helping out.. y’all guys are great, I keep seeing you and the other bearded guy and me jus laying on the ground crying my eyes out on the first day out there.. I have the perfect idea for a sign, perfect design.. a new invention..
We are certain much of the time.. But at times we do have doubts.. Unbelief... But when I am certain - I am certain.. but when I doubt I am not certain
You really must watch the whole debate between Craig and Krauss to understand what Dr. Craig meant. He's coming from the scientific definition if certainty, context is everything. Kind of surprised Jeff let that one come out. Oh well.
Right before the 6:30 mark, this reminds me of the ministries of William Lane Craig, and Frank Turek. The theory is, we give you the evidence, and you see where it leads you, instead of standing on Roman's 1. People are without excuse.
Are you seriously using "pretty rainbow" as evidence of god? Really? Please ...just dont ever vote or have kids or drive public transportation or ever work in an important job.
@@peetee32 Lol! I was asking a question, calm down. The comment was more against the big bang than being in favor of God. Rainbows coming from an explosion seems unlikely to me. You can have your own opinion! /watch?v=MbkIbIZehMM
Doesn't that depend on whether the descendants are conscious creatures capable of appreciating the consequences of their actions, no matter their origins?
I love much of Durbin's work and the folks at Apologia, but I can't say I'm certain that God exists. I'm very convinced of God's existence though. If every saved person is certain, and assuming that Pastor Jeff agrees that William Lane Craig could quite possibly be a brother in Christ, then when Craig said he wasn't certain, he was either lying or he doesnt know he is certain. Neither of those things make sense. Why would he lie about being certain of God's exitence? Or, how could he be unaware of his certainty? Why would i lie about my certainty, or how could i be unaware of my certainty?
Individual 1 faith in Christ is to believe in something you cant see but know that its all around you.you should.practicr.close your eyes and just start to pray talk to God for a while each day if its ten minutes or 5 minutes.God sais draw near to Me and I will drae neer to you.try it give your whole life over to God and start to talk morr and more each day with God by opening your heart to God.so if you seek God then God will come to you and you will start to feel His presens around you try it.and worship God with songs by sining allong with song.and come together with other brothers and susters in Christ to worship God.if you draw near to God then you will start to feel Him around you.try it.Hope this advise helps you
Hello brother :) I hope all is well. I wanted to reach out via a comment. I sent Apologia a email about 2 months ago and never heard back. Thought maybe the system in place to receive and respond to emails might be a little glitchy.
There's something key missing here on the point Mr Durbin is making in the 6-7 minute mark. I'm sure the debate he's referring to would have been recorded and posted, so where is the link?
QAnon Cool, I've heard a lot of them say it.... Actually the foundation of atheist philosophy is that there is no objective absolute truth and that all truth is merely a subjective opinion and that there is no truth rather opinions.... And that's self refuting because the stament it self is an absolute truth claim they're making... JESUS IS THE TRUTH, THE LIFE, AND THE WAY, AND NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD!!
it sounds like you're arguing with yourself . who are trying to impress ??? me or yourself this man is master illustrator at digging out the evidence that proves that god exist and some unbelievers are like vandals who break into your house trying to destroy what you have built its like they are saying i hate the light of your truth so if i don't like the light then you can't have it either if you don't like it then leave oh but you can't do that it would be to easy darkness can not destroy the light you might try but in the end it is wasted effort i can see evidence of god in the delicate petals of a flower or the wings of a butterfly all the trees flowers and the creatures upon the earth is screaming be still and know that i am god etc but heathens insist that god is foolishness because they don't want to believe evolution is silly i don't have the faith to be an atheist
The only book I have ever heard of that is over 2000 years old is the Bible. It has stood against the test of time and still going strong. God is truth and Jesus is the key to everlasting life.
Yes, the only reason why you think it's a good book is because you didn't read Homer's works, which are a couple hundred years older, still, than the bulk of the OT. ;-)
"It has stood against the test of time . . ." By your standards, so did the Rigveda. Older than all or nearly all of the Bible and also still serving as religious scripture. This is a totally b.s. standard. The age of a book is one of the worst qualifications you could ever come up with for a book's credibility. The only reason it's still around is because humans decided, by fiat, that they liked it, and these coerced the rest of society into validating their opinion of it. In reality, this book fails nearly every legitimate test of its credibility. The book is morally repugnant, inconsistent, and (if someone is dumb enough to try to get a single unitary message out of all 66 books) utterly incoherent. If one *actually* wants to understand what the Bible is saying, the only way to do that is to treat it like what it is: a collection of different works by different authors from different times and cultures, each with their own message, not necessarily consistent with the others, and with moral standards informed by the callous and brutal cultures the authors grew up in.
@@Jimmy-iy9plHis definition, makes him feel better about what he's doing, the whole "running from God thing", which includes denying his existence but yet finding himself motivated to retaliate against "He who doesn't exist"? I would know, I did it for 10 years.. but what's bizzare is, even though I knew I was doing it, I didn't realize I was doing it, untill I had a "Spiritual moment", if you will, (I'm not a mystic)
@@bboynewsboy991You folks need to stop hiding behind God. People are fighting *you,* not God. They are fighting you because you are predators, so it would be wrong to allow you to run around sharing your excuses without making it clear how little justification you have for saying the things you say. Silence on our end gives the false impression of a consensus that doesn't exist.
Preaching on Christ authority is good. Why leave out Matt 28:18-20? When we come to Christ as the ultimate Authority, why do we leave out some of the teachings. (Healing the sick, casting out demons, other miracles ect..) He taught his disciples. He told them to go disciple all the nations making more disciples? Could it be the false teaching of ceasing gifts? If so how does cessation of giftings coexist with Christ authority today? And why is there a contradiction with what Christ says in scripture and what is preached in the Sola scriptura? If Christ authority is supreme and the sole scriptura is His authoritative Word (Christ=living Word) why dont we teach the giftings for now today? Because Christ demonstrated and commanded through His authoritative word to "make disciples of all nations teachings them everything I taught you". Very Clearly
Healing the sick, cleansing the lepers, etc., do not convince unbelievers (MAT 28:17. ) It doesn't edify the Church. It becomes divisive. (1 COR 1:22) Miracles are miracles because they are rare, not because they are normal. If we place miracles above the call to minister, we are preaching the former purpose of those gifts. I hope that answers your question.
I'm an atheist- but I respect that beard. Really nice work on the beard. I jumped around the discussion a bit but picked up on the point of certainty. I'm surprised that certainty was hammered on. It seems that belief may be binary (either you believe or dont) but certainty in that belief may be a matter of degrees.
God's very impeccable design. Ever just watched ANTS? They know who their queen is. There is no questions...I know you get me...haha...our CREATOR. I love Jesus I'm madly in love with him...I walk and talk with him DAILY. The author and finisher...the word made flesh...APPREHENDED I have been! Praise our God! Love and prayers to and for all...LIGHT
Ants don't know who their queen is through any sort of cognitive awareness. They identify each other as a group and individually primarily through scent. Don't believe me, go look it up.
@@JMUDoc Marc Wallace and yet here you both are. Why? Because you know who God is and are fighting it. You are here to make your rebellious heart feel better in your unbelief.
"There is nothing a man cannot do once he accepts the fact there is no god." Thought this was probably Nietsche... till I found out it's from a movie called "Don't Breathe."
Can someone reply with what that "certain evidence that god exists"? I'm not sitting through an hour and a half sermon for more of the same old tired apologetics that have been debunked already.
@@joolspools777 I stated that I wasn't going to go through an hour and a half sermon to know what he said....but if someone was able to summarize the points, I would know.
@@SNORKYMEDIA I'm not surprised. It seems that pretty much any theist argument is either presupposition, or "because I say so". But then they will call you "a fool" if you don't believe them. It's all very childish.
@Deavon Reye atheism is the very DEFINITION of childish toddler-tantrumish nonsense. But, sure, you are wiser and more intelligent than the vast majority of the greatest intellects of history, especially the past 2,000 years.
GRATEFUL --- TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION God overwhelms our ingrate pride with the reality that the free gift of life brings with it a debt load of gratitude impossible to repay. Whereupon, if after reflection we choose to suffer the humiliation of admitting that we are not able to make it on our own, a born again experience empowers us with a living spirit and salvation is ours. "We love because he first loved us." For God offers a love relationship full of gifts, we create the gratitude needed to except it and then God gives us the good thoughts of faith, loyalty and trust. And as the indwelling Holy Spirit comforts our grateful heart, while together we endure the stress of trading the pleasures of sin for the pain of being pacifist and poor, surely sanctification is ours.
Tim Sharpe Yup! Although I have always been wary of him ever since he claimed in a debate that he was arguing for bare theism and not the God of scripture. In an attempt to win unbelievers to theism and then add Christ as a footnote. So much for 1 peter 3:15 where we are to set Christ apart as lord in our hearts BEFORE we give a defense.
To my knowledge, Dr. Craig has never professed beliefs or doctrines that are damnable heresy (although Molinism is definitely toeing the line by my reckoning) and so we should treat him as a brother in Christ. Dr. Craig is an incredibly accomplished philosopher which is why he is able to run rings around unbelievers, however it's also his biggest weakness because he comes across as a philosopher first and a theologian second. Because of this I believe his Gospel presentation is sub-Biblical, his approach is generally to present compelling arguments and evidences to "lower the bar" for the unbeliever to put their faith in Christ.
I mean, I agree with most of what this guy stands for, but cmon, i don't see how anyone can think that Calvinism is even relitavly consistent with scripture, and the whole picture of Gods character and his plan. Tell me dear calvanist, what is Gods purpose of creating mankind? Why is man the peak of creation? Is it not freedom of choice? Is it not that the creation has its own free will to choose God and His ways? What differs a tree, a rock, and a human? Is it simply the cmplexity? I tell you the TRUTH - it is freedom of choice. The freedom to choose or reject God and His ways. The one who Chooses God is the peak of creation, because there can be no greater creation that by its own free will chooses God. Everything else kind of has to. Love is only possible with free will. God is Love, the bible is ALL about love. If you program someone for a certain destiny, and rid him/her of free will, love isn't possible. Love is the ultimate expression of free will. Love God, Love your neighbor, that is a commandment. Why do we need a commandment if we have no choice either way? We don't. Thigs just would be as they are. No commandments necessary.
Mans ultimate end is to glorify God, whether in His mercy or His perfect justice. Why did He choose mankind? 🤷🏻♂️ Good question as praise God that He did!! Scripture says he could’ve made rocks sing his praises instead. In regards to freedom to choose, to a degree you’re correct. But as a whole it’s deeper than that.. scripture says that we were slaves to our sin nature, even dead in our sins. Therefore you freely choose to do whatever your sin nature desires. It’s a bondage of the will. Until you are born again in spirit that is.. once born again, the nature changes and with it, your will. At which point you freely choose to pursue Christ. But God first does the work, according to his on council, for his good pleasure, to penetrate the heart. If you put a vulcher in a room with a bowl of meat and a bowl of carrots.. which will he freely choose? If you change that vulcher into a rabbit, which will he freely choose then? John 6:36-37 ; Mathew 11:25-27
@@T-Wyler I would disagree that mans ultimate end is to glorify God. Man does glorify God, because he is the only one who can choose God, without being forced or programmed to.. but he wasnt created in order to glorify God. Man was created because it is Gods nature to create. If man was created TO glorify God, then God was lacking in glory before man... He was not. Man does glorify God, but that in itself was not the reason for creation of man. A man with no free will brings God no more glory than any other animal. But we see that man is the crown of creation. That is because we are "like God". Not all man is the crown of creation.. only those who choose good by their own free will. All others are fruitless trees that will be cut down and burned up. So the ultimate end of man, is to become more like God, which in turn, glorifies God. It is a Godly character we are after, and thats what brings God most glory. But the glory itself is not the purpose, its a consequence.
Constant appeals to shame, guilt & fear of those outside the tribe, and little explanation of epistemology besides jargon words and ‘god says so’. Quintessential demagogue. Disagree? Tell me his main argument here
@@johnforjesus2823 Personally I find a more presuppositional approach as the best. When it comes down to it, the unbeliever is forced to disavow logic and morality if they are to remain consistent when faced against a presup approach.
Presup methods lack any love. As an apologetic tools it is pretty bad. Do you really think everyone will understand this kind of philosophical discourse ?
Its just so weird that in beggining of video that there are an ad abou a playboy game with two ladies in underwhear and them this is a christian video.it blows my mind.
One day the youtube ad that came on before a Christian preaching video I watched had a bunch of people sitting in a crowded bar raising their glasses to one another with a music band in the background singing "we're all going to hell"
"How do I know I shouldn't keep slaves? Because God sa... uh..." Oops. Also, you quote-mined Dawkins. What he actually said was "The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” AT BOTTOM. In the words of Tyrrho, the universe doesn't care about its inhabitants, but its inhabitants do. Dawkins isn't saying there's no design or purpose or good or evil IN the universe, just that it doesn't UNDERPIN the universe.
You are not making any sense again. Either you or Dawkins is confused. By necessity, if there is design or purpose, then that design or purpose MUST underpin the thing designed or given purpose. You are playing semantics. And poorly
I would like to see presuppositionalism pitted up against a solid philosophical system like Stoicism just to see where the dialogue would go. Given that the Reformed faith is rooted in the teachings of Calvin and Calvin, being a humanist, was influenced by Seneca who was a Stoic....just think that would be interesting conversation to witness.
I did watch. But thanks for telling me that I didn't. I'm defending william lane craig. Anyone who claims certainty on something is not exercising faith. no one can know for certain that what we believe is 100% true.
Gosh I love Jeff but he lets people off the hook too easy. If you profess that you're not certain God exists, you by definition are not a Christian a la William Lane Craig
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Matthew 11:28 KJV Jesus lives Jesus Christ is Lord For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 3:23 KJV Jesus loves you repent You're a sinner in need of a Savior That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. Romans 10:9-10 KJV
This is silly. Nobody can be certain about anything other than their own thoughts. We have a high degree of confidence in our beliefs. Indeed, if Jeff is certain then he no longer needs faith, and he has no need for hope.
@@palookakj6622Well, sort of, yes. Of course, you have to have intelligent minds in order to be aware of the concept of numbers, but because the concept of the number one for eg has to be as it is and couldn't be any other way than the way it is, it is absolute and non contingent. I'm not sure i've expressed this idea in the best way, so let me say, it's almost as if these concepts are waiting in the ether for intelligent minds to become aware of them.
WLC said that, because of the questioner, not the question. Krauss was looking to know what physical evidence for god WLC had. On that basis, you need to act like Paul, not Peter. Meet them where they are. WLC often states he believes, because of personal experience. All the same, the facts he presents are not of that nature. So, is Jesus Lord to WLC? Yes. Does he tell someone, who would never accept him on that authority as the first step, saying, 'I believe in Jesus, because he is Lord.', just like that? No! He should not ever do that, unless his listener is receptive to that appeal. Are you trying to foster belief or prove your right? If you want Krauss to believe, you need to start with physical evidence. Krauss is well aware it comes down to a belief that Jesus is telling the truth. That is the bottom line. You, WLC, & Krauss all know that. Krauss would also ring a cowbell at you to drowned you out. Wait, it was a buzzer, my bad. I get your point, but your heavy handed. Again, Did you say William Lane Craig was not sure Jesus is Lord? Is that promoting peace or undermining a fellow worker? William Lane Craig believes because of his personal experiences, the arguments came later. If I am lying I am dying. Beware your tongue. You can catch me off guard also, & I might say things that are harsh or seem like I do not believe in god. I do though.
KC Thank you for taking the time. I find it interesting & challenging to meet someone who disagrees. Of course there are differing opinions. Let's start where you did. You claimed WLC, 'preaches lies of science', claims, '"reasonable faith" is second to telepathy', & does not use Jesus' (not 'Jesus's', that is improper English) word. Let's see if what you brought up backs your claim. Should be enlightening & fun! The wittiness of the Holy Spirit. WLC claims that is a valid way to know God, & so do I. It is not a scientific claim, just isn't. It does not validate or dismiss anything you have scientific evidence for. So it is not a lie of science. It is philosophically the only true way to know, as anything beyond yourself requires you start accepting things you cannot prove are real. That would make it the most direct. It is, in fact, how Jesus claimed it. As it does not conflict with what Christ teaches otherwise, I fail to see your point there. Your personal experience has value. It is in line with Christian teachings. Second, Alen Guth is an atheist. He does doubt the Universe had a beginning, but his reasons are due to his axiomatic metaphysical beliefs, not science. I am fully aware of where he stands, but it does not invalidate the theorem that these three men came up with. 'It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men & proof is what it takes to convince even unreasonable men. With a proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past eternal Universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.'- Alex Vilenkin, Many worlds in one: The search for other Universes (NY Hill & Wong 2006). This is a quote from the scientific findings they have, not a metaphysical position based off his personal axioms. He admits, 'I cannot say it proves God exists, but I would like to.'- Alex Vilenkin (Closer to truth, on youtube). That second statement is from his personal axioms. Every model that is based off the scientific understanding we have right now, & not a metaphysical axiom without scientific basis, has a beginning. Just is. As far as we currently understand, the Universe is NOT past eternal. The rest is speculation without rational from these men. WLC is well within his right to claim this as evidence in his claim. This is not a lie about scientific evidence from WLC. It is a difference in metaphysical axioms between Alan Guth & WLC. He has not lied, nor has he mislead anyone. It is easy to mistake the two different types of claims. That said, metaphysical claims are all philosophical, NOT scientific. I hope that clears it up for you. As for your KCA kick back, it is fallacious. The KCA has premises that are almost Universally accepted by philosophers. Yours is an attempt at disproving his argument, not by addressing the arguments itself, but by making a false analogy. It is called a straw man. That argument you gave in no way invalidates or addresses what WLC is arguing. He is arguing the basics, not specifically about the God of Abraham in the KCA. That is about general theism, not the Abrahamic God sDo you see? All said & done, Nothing you gave evidenced your claim. You claimed he does not preach Jesus, but he does directly at the end address the Holy Spirit as one form of evidence. He also asks people to look into that claim & he has a Historical claim about Jesus directly you ignored. You choose instead to go after the KCA that only posits that there is a God (general theism), not the Abrahamic God specifically. Which you straw manned! Worry about the timber in your own eye before trying to pick out the splinter in WLC's eye. Finally, in no way is 'telepathy' brought up. Whatever gives you that claim as valid is still a complete mystery. I assume it hyperbolic language, in which case it is still illogical & wrong. WLC is making reasonable claims. I am sorry, but you are Not. I hope that was helpful & not overly caustic. I do have to ask, What are your thoughts on God/gods? What is metaphysically/theologically true?
KC No offense, but me ignoring you due to you being belligerent towards me, is not the same as me not enjoying finding out what people know on this subject. I like pizza also, but I do have preferences on what kind of pizza. Either way, I might eat something I did not like to be nice, but would not eat a nonfood item to be nice. I also have trouble with some telling me what morality is, as they disrespect me. It makes it impossible to take you seriously, as your actions directly violate your claims. God Bless son
My apologies but I thaught this video was going to be proving facts for certainty not just you preaching no offense but poeple can say things with opinions but facts and opinion are different
JMUDoc A collection of ancient writings and teachings along with the claims of a 1st century man named Yeshua who claimed to be God and cited those documents and later validated his claims through his resurrection
I would encourage you to check out “The Case for Christ” by Lee Strobel, either read or listen to the book. There’s also a movie, although I personally have never seen it so I don’t know how it compares to the book. You could also just search it on RUclips for videos that probably summarize if you don’t want to listen to/read the whole book. Lee Strobel was a journalist and atheist, and his wife became a Christian. He thought she was crazy so he set off to research the Bible and Christianity to prove his wife wrong. He talked to/interviewed many different people, like historians and stuff, to find out how accurate the Bible is compared to the original documents and things like that. The evidence he found to support what the texts say, and how reliable the authors are was undeniable and overwhelming. He ended up becoming a Christian himself, and remember he set out with the belief that Christians were completely wrong, and the Bible is a fairytale that was written by some guy a long time ago. I hope you’ll keep an open mind and check it out.
And He makes Himself known in creation, in our consciousness, in Jesus and revelation through the bible. Continued with revelation in our hearts and consciousness throughout your walk with Him. We know the word is truth because when embracing those truths they manifest in your life in a physical, tangible, emotional and spiritual way in your life.
@@JMUDoc dont have to prove it! I already have it , dont need to prove it to you live and walk in peace with God. You believe any of the stories anyway
What is up with these nazis on youtube??? Literally just watched a 12 minute video from a guy with a few thousand less subscribers than you guys with 5 ads...…...but youR 1 hour 30 minute video has 0 ads LOL, COULD WE PLEASE TONE THE 1984 DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT!!!!!
1.55: "We face tyrannical forms of gouvernment." Seeing how the church actually tries to infiltrate the gouvernment to enact some pretty authoritarian policies (anti-abortion-laws, anti-lgbt laws, etc), this is some Alanis Morissette level of irony right there.
So is it tyrannical to impose law that prohibit murder? Point being is that God is the author of the Law... He's the one who says what is right and wrong... All the church is doing in the government is try to impose Gods Law and prohibit sinful things.
@@travisanderson3920 Abortion is not murder... it's not forcing someone to give up her rights on her own blood and womb for the sake of someone else. Also, I guess that you believe god told us murder is wrong because of the 10 commandments? So, when shall we start stoning people for working on saturdays, as god commanded? How is that not authoritarian?
@@travisanderson3920 Also, if god really wanted you to prohibit "sinful things", he wouldn't have given us free will, now, would he? Why are you trying to undo the freedoms god gave us? (If he really existed I mean)
@@TsunamiNR if God is truly God then wouldn't he be the ultimate authority? God's law is written on our hearts... We all know murder is wrong... Nobody has to tell you or I that. Abortion is the murder of a baby that's inside of the mother. As soon as there's conception that baby has every piece of DNA that makes up a human being. It's just at a different stage of a life..
@@travisanderson3920 If god existed, the fact that we have free will means he isn't or wouldn't want to be the ultimate authority. We can decide for ourselves what's right and wrong. Also, I don't need someone to "write into my heart" that murder is wrong. I can come to that conclusion purely through logic. I also don't need a someone to tell me that forcing someone to give up their bodily autonomy for the sake of someone else is wrong. Even if the foetus would be human, if it needs your blood to survive, then you can decide whether you want to give it you blood or not. If you don't want to do that, then it dies... and if you don't like that, blame nature / your god for making us mamals instead of egg-laying animals.
You’ll never ever be certain because it is all make believe. I don’t need the reassurance of charismatic salesmen to be certain my house exists or my wife exists.
QAnon im pretty sure if you were mentally ill, you would need convincingly. You are ill in your sin for denying God when he reveals himself to us via creation. Just take a walk outside, thats advertising for you.
And it's your house because a real estate agent sold it to you and she's your wife because you signed a contract? Is that all make believe just because you say so?
I've put it this way to atheists so many times, and the only response that they can give is: "Oh yeah, but... because... in a way... I mean... well, you're ugly." A Creator God is a logical necessity based on the contingent nature of the physical universe. Because the physical universe is contingent, it is not eternal. (Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of origin, cessation, or change, in effect, eternity means no past, present, or future; it is an eternal “now,” but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in creation, living, changing, and dying, ergo matter and energy are not eternal) Every physical (natural) entity is contingent and therefore has a cause, and because causal chains cannot be of infinite length, because that would be an effect without a cause, if you were able to follow the causal chain back to the very beginning where the very first physical entity was effected into being, it's cause HAD to be supernatural, since the “natural” was not yet in existence, something cannot come from nothing, something cannot “be” before it “is,” and nothing can create itself (not even God). The reality of the impossibility of infinite causal chains also refutes any notion of a “multiverse” that some have posited as an explanation of the eternality of the universe, and it also nullifies the question “where did God come from?” that some have posed when God is explained as the ultimate cause of the universe. Others (like Stephen Hawking) have foolishly said that we cannot talk about the origins of the universe since time itself did not exist before the universe began to expand at the Big Bang, so we just cannot know. However, since time is the progression of sequential relationships between two or more contiguous events, if there was indeed a point when there was no such thing as time, but assuming the universe did exist in some previous form, be it as a singularity, a quantum vacuum, or whatever, then because there was no time, then there would be no progression from the universe’s previous condition from “A” where there was no time to, “B” where there is time. Hence, if there was a point when there was no time, then there never would be time unless some supernatural (outside of nature) force created it. Contingent beings are insufficient to account for the existence of contingent beings in the ultimate sense. Frederick Copelston once said, “If you add up chocolates, you get chocolates after all and not sheep. Therefore if you add up contingent entities, you are still left with contingent entities, and not an eternal one”: therefore there must exist a necessary, non-contingent, supernatural being whose non-existence is an impossibility, and from which the existence of all contingent, physical beings are derived (Hebrews 11:3).
Mormons say to him: We are certain the church is true Durbin: How dare you, you disrespectful pal, you're wrong! .... Durbin: I am certain and who doesn't believe is a fool!
You obviously havnt watched jeff street preaching and if you have your misrepresenting Jeff. He def doesnt just go up to people and tell then they are wrong just because they are
This guy loves to bash different religions. He rarely talks about what he believes he just tells people what not to believe. He spreads doubt and confusion not faith and hope. He is a great salesman! And a great debater but I do not trust his intentions. He loves to argue and stir the pot. But most of all he will do whatever it takes to get views
The whole concept of apologetics is fundamentally flawed. There’s no need to defend faith; faith is just the belief that something is so. Faith does not require proof or evidence, just faith itself. If we knew what was true, there would be no need for faith at all. At no point in the bible does it require evidence outside of what’s written in it. Quite to the contrary, belief in the bible only relies on the faith that its contents are true.
According to the scriptures and what other source(s)? Many books make claims, some supported by outside sources, some not. Generally speaking, people evaluate the strength of a statement based on how many sources there are to support the statement, as well as the validity of those sources. It’s inaccurate, or at least intellectually dishonest, to use a given publication to prove the veracity of the publication itself. It’s a bit like saying “It’s true because I say it is true.” So, what other written sources verify the section that you’re referring to (I guess I should clarify by saying, what tangible sources, since some take the default of “god” in lieu of any other verifiable source.) I’m sure that at this point you’re thinking that I have a problem with faith, but that’s not the issue I’m pointing to here. Faith is helpful, fellowship even more so, but it’s important to evaluate the basis of that faith and view it in a critical way. We can’t just say that we believe; we must also think of why we believe and evaluate whether or not our belief is consistent with our thinking. People once believed that the sun rotated around the earth, which we now know to be untrue, for example. To make a short story long, our thinking is just as important (some might even argue, more important?) as our faith.
Christian worldview: feet planted firmly on The Rock, Jesus Christ. atheist worldview: feet planted "firmly" in the air and waving around aimlessly and, often, angrily.
@Deavon Reye Says who? You? On your worldview, you are a soulless meat puppet with no OBJECTIVE worth, value meaning or purpose. Why should I or anyone else care what YOU consider a "strawman" or not? And by what standard do you make that claim? Your mere opinion? You believe you are a descendant of bacteria! Why should ANYone care about YOUR opinion?
By what standard do you decide Spiritual Truth is "hate preach"? Are you ever skeptical of YOUR skepticism? By what standard do YOU deem ANYTHING "hateful"? Your mere opinion? Why should I or anyone else care about YOUR mere opinion? Serious questions.
@@justin10292000 Anti atheist, anti lgbtq, anti logic, anti agnostic, anti science, you can't make sense of morality and science without my fake god.......yada yada yada. You are a sinner, you are going to hell, trying to separate instead of unify the people of this planet. Use vs them, us vs them, us vs them. blah blah blah.......on and on and on an on...just a bunch of dividing crap useless words spewn from men like this for centuries and centuries and centuries......
Thank you for your ministry. I was a JW for 38 years....I'm now born again in Christ. Hallelujah. Thank you.
Praise the Lord! When did you come to Christ?
Tyren Cooper I was baptized last November. I accepted Jesus 2 years ago. 😊
Praise the Lord. It's amazing just how long God will woo us to bring people to Himself. Even more awesome, you were predestined before the foundation of the world. A very humbling thing that the Lord has revealed to us through His Word.
I look forward to seeing you in the life to come, sister. God bless you, and may the peace of Christ be with you all the days of your life. :)
SOME SEEDS , FALL TO THE SIDE OF THE ROAD .. AND DIE ... SOME FALL INTO , GOOD SOIL .. AND GROW ..
Praise God!!! Thank you Jesus!!!
I want to believe in Christ and God- please pray for me that God would guide me out of this confusion
KnownUniverse Stay strong while you seek a relationship with God. Please don’t give up! You will find Him in His Word and in your prayers.
Talk to him as much as you can! The best way to build a relationship is to have him on your mind every second if you can!
KnownUniverse there is no reason to believe in a god. Praying does nothing and there is no soul or afterlife. Live in a delusion if you want but just know that you don't find out the truth when you die. When you die you cease to exist.
Have a read of the Gospel of John KnownUniverse. It is written for people like you. Ignore ignorant comments that claim they know that there is no life after death. That's quite a claim if that person claims that Jesus isn't for real: how exactly, according to their world view, can they know that?! If you will have Him, Jesus will rescue you and welcome you in to relationship with himself now and into eternity. Trust in Him and what He Has done on the cross. Feel free to message me if you want to know more.
Hey bro. Come to a discord server if you like, Christian server.
https :// discord. gg/ sDFumrb
Jeff Durban is a true Fisher of men.
I use to believe without evidence but now that I’ve seen much evidence I feel I’ve grown more firm and bold in my faith for the Bible being the ultimate truth
ya, theres a lot of evidence
Mauselio Escobar
May I ask: what made you believe without evidence? I mean, why did you believe in the Christian faith instead of the Islamic faith, for example?
Many people say it's a blind faith, but the further you delve into it - as you've done yourself - you see that it's definitely not the case.
Faith is blind by definition... the biblical definition even. If there was evidence for god you wouldnt say you have faith, you would just give the reason to believe. Simple as that. Presupposing, or having faith in something is no way to determine truth, as you can presuppose or have faith in anything.
Care to share the evidence? Ive never seen evidence and I can not honestly support believing in anything without a reason.
God has used this ministry in my life over the last few months in a big way. We need more faithful Christians in total rebellion against the world for the glory of Christ and the advancement of His Gospel. Atheist, stop brain gassing all over us and acknowledge the God you suppress in unrighteousness. Repent and Believe. Great Work Jeff. Blessings.
This ministry has blessed me too.! Been so so blessed bc of it!
Glory To GOD!!!
Thank you Jeff Durbin!
Message was on point and a great teaching. Going to share!
"The Chrisitian is supposed to be standing on a different stage."
Bingo! Amen.
I want to meet Jeff so bad! God bless you all and God bless your ministries!
When are you coming to New Zealand Jeff? Would love to meet you 🙂. Godbless
Timmy Kapow November.
Awesome!!! Hope to see you in Auckland.
@@ApologiaStudios When are you coming to NewYorkCity brother Jeff? I would love to meet you too!
Great teacher
Love you guys!! Thanks for the videos
Of course God exists, I spoke with Him this morning ^_^
Ah yes, as does the great alien overlord zorkzork. I know because I talked to him… well he wasn’t there, and he didn’t respond, but because I pretend he’s real that means that he is real
See how narcissistic that is
@@reeferrotrandy458 You are silly, troll. You are wrong but don't take OUR word for it: you will find out for yourself soon enough!
What a fantastic message!
Yes, he made it all up. ;-)
@@lepidoptera9337 Your comments on these boards are so silly, trollish and ignorant. You are wrong but don't take OUR word for it: you will find out for yourself soon enough!
I been sobbin I little, but I’m keeping it together. I get choked up thinkin about adopting. Just being out there with a sign helping out.. y’all guys are great, I keep seeing you and the other bearded guy and me jus laying on the ground crying my eyes out on the first day out there.. I have the perfect idea for a sign, perfect design.. a new invention..
Damn you are simple
@@reeferrotrandy458 HE has a heart for underprivileged children. Darn, you are unfeeling. I bet you are an atheist, aren't you?
Great stuff.. believes everywhere need to hear it
I wish the Q&A’s were posted as well.
jeff is a blessing
We are certain much of the time.. But at times we do have doubts.. Unbelief... But when I am certain - I am certain.. but when I doubt I am not certain
I am confident that there is a Creator though... It's an impossibility for there not to be a God
You really must watch the whole debate between Craig and Krauss to understand what Dr. Craig meant. He's coming from the scientific definition if certainty, context is everything. Kind of surprised Jeff let that one come out. Oh well.
Man that was good!!
Hope is the reason to accept Christ even if you doubt the certainty of God.
Denying doubt is simply a position of insecurity.
Hope for what? That I will go to hell because some god-kid doesn't like me? Dude. Let's get real here. :-)
Great Sermon!
Amen. God bless you and your family.
This is some good stuff! Very educational just what I was looking for no joke! Your speakin too fast for me but I’ll take notes.
You are a pea brain
Very fast lol I was thinking the same. I'm straining to keep up listening
@@reeferrotrandy458 You sure are!
@@reeferrotrandy458 LOL. atheism is toddler-tantrumish nonsense.
How do I stay up to date with your overseas events?
I live in Australia but had no idea you were here last year.
Hello are you currently in Sydney? Would love to sit through one of these :)
Love it!!!
The gate is more narrow than y’all think.
And there is the silly person who threatens everybody with his invisible friend. ;-)
Right before the 6:30 mark, this reminds me of the ministries of William Lane Craig, and Frank Turek. The theory is, we give you the evidence, and you see where it leads you, instead of standing on Roman's 1. People are without excuse.
Wow.. I just realize a few seconds later, that he calls out William lane Craig.. jumped the gun
Wait so the clearly designed 7 color arching rainbow doesn't come from a randomness quantum big bang explosion???
Are you seriously using "pretty rainbow" as evidence of god? Really? Please ...just dont ever vote or have kids or drive public transportation or ever work in an important job.
@@peetee32 Lol! I was asking a question, calm down. The comment was more against the big bang than being in favor of God. Rainbows coming from an explosion seems unlikely to me. You can have your own opinion! /watch?v=MbkIbIZehMM
@peetee32 Yeah; pretty rainbow=God exists. What’s your explanation for beauty and order in the world?
@@kaylar3197 beauty I guess , but mostly the esoteric nature of rainbows
"Defendants of fish have no moral 'oughts' at all."
Doesn't that depend on whether the descendants are conscious creatures capable of appreciating the consequences of their actions, no matter their origins?
@@Whatsisface4 Why so? Why does my ability to analyse the consequences of my actions equip me with moral obligations?
I love much of Durbin's work and the folks at Apologia, but I can't say I'm certain that God exists. I'm very convinced of God's existence though. If every saved person is certain, and assuming that Pastor Jeff agrees that William Lane Craig could quite possibly be a brother in Christ, then when Craig said he wasn't certain, he was either lying or he doesnt know he is certain. Neither of those things make sense. Why would he lie about being certain of God's exitence? Or, how could he be unaware of his certainty? Why would i lie about my certainty, or how could i be unaware of my certainty?
Individual 1 faith in Christ is to believe in something you cant see but know that its all around you.you should.practicr.close your eyes and just start to pray talk to God for a while each day if its ten minutes or 5 minutes.God sais draw near to Me and I will drae neer to you.try it give your whole life over to God and start to talk morr and more each day with God by opening your heart to God.so if you seek God then God will come to you and you will start to feel His presens around you try it.and worship God with songs by sining allong with song.and come together with other brothers and susters in Christ to worship God.if you draw near to God then you will start to feel Him around you.try it.Hope this advise helps you
Hello brother :) I hope all is well. I wanted to reach out via a comment. I sent Apologia a email about 2 months ago and never heard back. Thought maybe the system in place to receive and respond to emails might be a little glitchy.
There's something key missing here on the point Mr Durbin is making in the 6-7 minute mark. I'm sure the debate he's referring to would have been recorded and posted, so where is the link?
Athiest:"There is no truth!"... Christian: Is that true?
Nate Perez
I’ve never ever heard an atheist say that.
you never heard it?one of the greatest 20th century atheist philosopher friedrich neitzsche said it.
QAnon Cool, I've heard a lot of them say it.... Actually the foundation of atheist philosophy is that there is no objective absolute truth and that all truth is merely a subjective opinion and that there is no truth rather opinions.... And that's self refuting because the stament it self is an absolute truth claim they're making... JESUS IS THE TRUTH, THE LIFE, AND THE WAY, AND NO MAN COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF GOD!!
it sounds like you're arguing with yourself . who are trying to impress ??? me or yourself this man is master illustrator at digging out the evidence that proves that god exist and some unbelievers are like vandals who break into your house trying to destroy what you have built its like they are saying i hate the light of your truth so if i don't like the light then you can't have it either if you don't like it then leave oh but you can't do that it would be to easy darkness can not destroy the light you might try but in the end it is wasted effort i can see evidence of god in the delicate petals of a flower or the wings of a butterfly all the trees flowers and the creatures upon the earth is screaming be still and know that i am god etc but heathens insist that god is foolishness because they don't want to believe evolution is silly i don't have the faith to be an atheist
Atheism is not the position that there is no truth. Atheism is a disbelief, or lack of belief, in God or gods, and no more.
The only book I have ever heard of that is over 2000 years old is the Bible. It has stood against the test of time and still going strong. God is truth and Jesus is the key to everlasting life.
Yes, the only reason why you think it's a good book is because you didn't read Homer's works, which are a couple hundred years older, still, than the bulk of the OT. ;-)
"It has stood against the test of time . . ."
By your standards, so did the Rigveda. Older than all or nearly all of the Bible and also still serving as religious scripture. This is a totally b.s. standard. The age of a book is one of the worst qualifications you could ever come up with for a book's credibility.
The only reason it's still around is because humans decided, by fiat, that they liked it, and these coerced the rest of society into validating their opinion of it. In reality, this book fails nearly every legitimate test of its credibility. The book is morally repugnant, inconsistent, and (if someone is dumb enough to try to get a single unitary message out of all 66 books) utterly incoherent.
If one *actually* wants to understand what the Bible is saying, the only way to do that is to treat it like what it is: a collection of different works by different authors from different times and cultures, each with their own message, not necessarily consistent with the others, and with moral standards informed by the callous and brutal cultures the authors grew up in.
"Faith - what you use when you dont have a good reason to believe" MD
Whose definition is that?
@@Jimmy-iy9plHis definition, makes him feel better about what he's doing, the whole "running from God thing", which includes denying his existence but yet finding himself motivated to retaliate against "He who doesn't exist"? I would know, I did it for 10 years.. but what's bizzare is, even though I knew I was doing it, I didn't realize I was doing it, untill I had a "Spiritual moment", if you will, (I'm not a mystic)
@@bboynewsboy991You folks need to stop hiding behind God. People are fighting *you,* not God. They are fighting you because you are predators, so it would be wrong to allow you to run around sharing your excuses without making it clear how little justification you have for saying the things you say. Silence on our end gives the false impression of a consensus that doesn't exist.
Sydney ?? how did I miss this
Preaching on Christ authority is good. Why leave out
Matt 28:18-20? When we come to Christ as the ultimate Authority, why do we leave out some of the teachings. (Healing the sick, casting out demons, other miracles ect..) He taught his disciples. He told them to go disciple all the nations making more disciples? Could it be the false teaching of ceasing gifts? If so how does cessation of giftings coexist with Christ authority today? And why is there a contradiction with what Christ says in scripture and what is preached in the Sola scriptura? If Christ authority is supreme and the sole scriptura is His authoritative Word (Christ=living Word) why dont we teach the giftings for now today? Because Christ demonstrated and commanded through His authoritative word to "make disciples of all nations teachings them everything I taught you". Very Clearly
Healing the sick, cleansing the lepers, etc., do not convince unbelievers (MAT 28:17. )
It doesn't edify the Church. It becomes divisive. (1 COR 1:22)
Miracles are miracles because they are rare, not because they are normal.
If we place miracles above the call to minister, we are preaching the former purpose of those gifts.
I hope that answers your question.
@@TheDeathInTheAir this is a great answer. So many people divide in this and miss the point
Jeff you are a good man
I'm an atheist- but I respect that beard. Really nice work on the beard. I jumped around the discussion a bit but picked up on the point of certainty. I'm surprised that certainty was hammered on. It seems that belief may be binary (either you believe or dont) but certainty in that belief may be a matter of degrees.
God's very impeccable design. Ever just watched ANTS? They know who their queen is. There is no questions...I know you get me...haha...our CREATOR. I love Jesus I'm madly in love with him...I walk and talk with him DAILY. The author and finisher...the word made flesh...APPREHENDED I have been! Praise our God! Love and prayers to and for all...LIGHT
Ants don't know who their queen is through any sort of cognitive awareness. They identify each other as a group and individually primarily through scent. Don't believe me, go look it up.
I don't think ants need to rely on apologetics to demonstrate the existence of their queen; they can just point and say "there's the queen".
@@JMUDoc Marc Wallace and yet here you both are. Why? Because you know who God is and are fighting it. You are here to make your rebellious heart feel better in your unbelief.
Is Jeff in Australia now, or is this a video from a previous visit? I didn't think he'd be here until November 2018.
Why is there a Latter Day Saints (Mormons) AD here..🤔
youtube puts the ads up...ask them
Um, the ad it just played for me to watch this was for Mormonism.
RUclips ads are targeted either by your google search history or by what other RUclips videos you watch.
Psalm 83:18 King James Version (KJV)
18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.
"There is nothing a man cannot do once he accepts the fact there is no god."
Thought this was probably Nietsche... till I found out it's from a movie called "Don't Breathe."
Can someone reply with what that "certain evidence that god exists"? I'm not sitting through an hour and a half sermon for more of the same old tired apologetics that have been debunked already.
If you feel they have been debunked already why are you here? Are you trying to find God?
@@joolspools777 I stated that I wasn't going to go through an hour and a half sermon to know what he said....but if someone was able to summarize the points, I would know.
@@DRayL_ there wasnt any evidence - as usual
@@SNORKYMEDIA I'm not surprised. It seems that pretty much any theist argument is either presupposition, or "because I say so". But then they will call you "a fool" if you don't believe them. It's all very childish.
@Deavon Reye atheism is the very DEFINITION of childish toddler-tantrumish nonsense. But, sure, you are wiser and more intelligent than the vast majority of the greatest intellects of history, especially the past 2,000 years.
GRATEFUL --- TRUE PLAN OF SALVATION
God overwhelms our ingrate pride with the reality that the free gift of life brings with it a debt load of gratitude impossible to repay. Whereupon, if after reflection we choose to suffer the humiliation of admitting that we are not able to make it on our own, a born again experience empowers us with a living spirit and salvation is ours.
"We love because he first loved us."
For God offers a love relationship full of gifts, we create the gratitude needed to except it and then God gives us the good thoughts of faith, loyalty and trust.
And as the indwelling Holy Spirit comforts our grateful heart, while together we endure the stress of trading the pleasures of sin for the pain of being pacifist and poor, surely sanctification is ours.
7:00 Jeff Willam lane craig said that because its a debate tactic. krauss was going to use Craigs certainty of God againts him.
Troy Mason do you know which debate he was referring to where WLC said that?
There is the Q&A
Is that right about Dr William Lane Craig? I liked him 😕
Tim Sharpe Yup! Although I have always been wary of him ever since he claimed in a debate that he was arguing for bare theism and not the God of scripture. In an attempt to win unbelievers to theism and then add Christ as a footnote. So much for 1 peter 3:15 where we are to set Christ apart as lord in our hearts BEFORE we give a defense.
To my knowledge, Dr. Craig has never professed beliefs or doctrines that are damnable heresy (although Molinism is definitely toeing the line by my reckoning) and so we should treat him as a brother in Christ. Dr. Craig is an incredibly accomplished philosopher which is why he is able to run rings around unbelievers, however it's also his biggest weakness because he comes across as a philosopher first and a theologian second. Because of this I believe his Gospel presentation is sub-Biblical, his approach is generally to present compelling arguments and evidences to "lower the bar" for the unbeliever to put their faith in Christ.
I mean, I agree with most of what this guy stands for, but cmon, i don't see how anyone can think that Calvinism is even relitavly consistent with scripture, and the whole picture of Gods character and his plan. Tell me dear calvanist, what is Gods purpose of creating mankind? Why is man the peak of creation? Is it not freedom of choice? Is it not that the creation has its own free will to choose God and His ways? What differs a tree, a rock, and a human? Is it simply the cmplexity? I tell you the TRUTH - it is freedom of choice. The freedom to choose or reject God and His ways. The one who Chooses God is the peak of creation, because there can be no greater creation that by its own free will chooses God. Everything else kind of has to. Love is only possible with free will. God is Love, the bible is ALL about love. If you program someone for a certain destiny, and rid him/her of free will, love isn't possible. Love is the ultimate expression of free will. Love God, Love your neighbor, that is a commandment. Why do we need a commandment if we have no choice either way? We don't. Thigs just would be as they are. No commandments necessary.
Mans ultimate end is to glorify God, whether in His mercy or His perfect justice.
Why did He choose mankind? 🤷🏻♂️ Good question as praise God that He did!! Scripture says he could’ve made rocks sing his praises instead.
In regards to freedom to choose, to a degree you’re correct. But as a whole it’s deeper than that.. scripture says that we were slaves to our sin nature, even dead in our sins. Therefore you freely choose to do whatever your sin nature desires. It’s a bondage of the will. Until you are born again in spirit that is.. once born again, the nature changes and with it, your will. At which point you freely choose to pursue Christ. But God first does the work, according to his on council, for his good pleasure, to penetrate the heart.
If you put a vulcher in a room with a bowl of meat and a bowl of carrots.. which will he freely choose? If you change that vulcher into a rabbit, which will he freely choose then?
John 6:36-37 ; Mathew 11:25-27
@@T-Wyler I would disagree that mans ultimate end is to glorify God. Man does glorify God, because he is the only one who can choose God, without being forced or programmed to.. but he wasnt created in order to glorify God. Man was created because it is Gods nature to create. If man was created TO glorify God, then God was lacking in glory before man... He was not. Man does glorify God, but that in itself was not the reason for creation of man. A man with no free will brings God no more glory than any other animal. But we see that man is the crown of creation. That is because we are "like God". Not all man is the crown of creation.. only those who choose good by their own free will. All others are fruitless trees that will be cut down and burned up. So the ultimate end of man, is to become more like God, which in turn, glorifies God. It is a Godly character we are after, and thats what brings God most glory. But the glory itself is not the purpose, its a consequence.
EXDODUS 6 : 3 , ISAIAH 12 : 2 , ISAIAH 26 : 4 , PSALMS 83 : 18 .. ( JEHOVAH ) .. I AM SURE HE IS THE SUPREME GOD ..! ALSO .. ( EXISTS ) ...!!!
Constant appeals to shame, guilt & fear of those outside the tribe, and little explanation of epistemology besides jargon words and ‘god says so’. Quintessential demagogue. Disagree? Tell me his main argument here
Don’t you just love the carnal perspective. Because I for one don’t dwell in it, I encourage you to follow suit.
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I don't think presupp is good apologetics.
_Apo4x Why is that?
many reasons :) i dont rally want to debate though hope you are fine and god bless
_Apo4x lol alright, was just curious. God bless you too.
@@johnforjesus2823 Personally I find a more presuppositional approach as the best. When it comes down to it, the unbeliever is forced to disavow logic and morality if they are to remain consistent when faced against a presup approach.
Presup methods lack any love. As an apologetic tools it is pretty bad. Do you really think everyone will understand this kind of philosophical discourse ?
Yes right
Its just so weird that in beggining of video that there are an ad abou a playboy game with two ladies in underwhear and them this is a christian video.it blows my mind.
PSJ fellowship RUclips ads have nothing to do with content. Our RUclips videos are also unrelated to their ads.
Advertisements are based on search history. You've been a naughty boy PSJ.
Remember the spiritual battle that wages on? Perfect evidence.
One day the youtube ad that came on before a Christian preaching video I watched had a bunch of people sitting in a crowded bar raising their glasses to one another with a music band in the background singing "we're all going to hell"
"How do I know I shouldn't keep slaves? Because God sa... uh..." Oops.
Also, you quote-mined Dawkins. What he actually said was "The universe that we observe has precisely the properties we should expect if there is, at bottom, no design, no purpose, no evil, no good, nothing but pitiless indifference.” AT BOTTOM.
In the words of Tyrrho, the universe doesn't care about its inhabitants, but its inhabitants do. Dawkins isn't saying there's no design or purpose or good or evil IN the universe, just that it doesn't UNDERPIN the universe.
You are not making any sense again. Either you or Dawkins is confused. By necessity, if there is design or purpose, then that design or purpose MUST underpin the thing designed or given purpose.
You are playing semantics. And poorly
@@palookakj6622 IF there is design.
IF.
Is there?
@@JMUDoc
Yes. Again, from our other discussion, that is logical.
I would like to see presuppositionalism pitted up against a solid philosophical system like Stoicism just to see where the dialogue would go. Given that the Reformed faith is rooted in the teachings of Calvin and Calvin, being a humanist, was influenced by Seneca who was a Stoic....just think that would be interesting conversation to witness.
I think you missed the point of what Dr. Craig said... The context is that Craig believes we can't be certain of anything, which I think is true.
That's also a contradiction to say you can't be certain about anything means you are certain about the claim you cannot be certain about anything
I don't believe god on the grounds of certainty. I believe god on the grounds of faith
zachariahm10 You should watch before commenting next time.
that's what true "faith" is - that's what the Bible considers true faith
I did watch. But thanks for telling me that I didn't. I'm defending william lane craig. Anyone who claims certainty on something is not exercising faith. no one can know for certain that what we believe is 100% true.
zachariahm10 are you certain of that?
yeah I am...
Gosh I love Jeff but he lets people off the hook too easy. If you profess that you're not certain God exists, you by definition are not a Christian a la William Lane Craig
How can someone say so much and say very little.
Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.
Matthew 11:28 KJV
Jesus lives
Jesus Christ is Lord
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Romans 3:23 KJV
Jesus loves you repent
You're a sinner in need of a Savior
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:9-10 KJV
might as well quote Harry Potter....
I was in the brambles myself. First Word I heard that helped...look up, not in.
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This is silly. Nobody can be certain about anything other than their own thoughts. We have a high degree of confidence in our beliefs. Indeed, if Jeff is certain then he no longer needs faith, and he has no need for hope.
Barry Anderberg chemicals reactions that’s it ok lol.
"Nobody can be certain about anything other than their own thoughts".
Are you certain about that?
Jeff seems confused. He described numbers as necessary, but then says they are contingent on God. They can't be both.
Both statements can be true. There are many things that are necessary and still contingent on something else
@@palookakj6622 Even if I have mixed up the word necessary, numbers are concepts that couldn't be any other way, so they are not contingent
@@Whatsisface4
So, the concept of numbers has always existed?
@@palookakj6622Well, sort of, yes. Of course, you have to have intelligent minds in order to be aware of the concept of numbers, but because the concept of the number one for eg has to be as it is and couldn't be any other way than the way it is, it is absolute and non contingent. I'm not sure i've expressed this idea in the best way, so let me say, it's almost as if these concepts are waiting in the ether for intelligent minds to become aware of them.
@@Whatsisface4
So, you do believe in a non-physical universe and these things had no cause.
Yet, you ask for proof of God.
WLC said that, because of the questioner, not the question. Krauss was looking to know what physical evidence for god WLC had. On that basis, you need to act like Paul, not Peter. Meet them where they are. WLC often states he believes, because of personal experience. All the same, the facts he presents are not of that nature.
So, is Jesus Lord to WLC? Yes. Does he tell someone, who would never accept him on that authority as the first step, saying, 'I believe in Jesus, because he is Lord.', just like that? No! He should not ever do that, unless his listener is receptive to that appeal.
Are you trying to foster belief or prove your right? If you want Krauss to believe, you need to start with physical evidence. Krauss is well aware it comes down to a belief that Jesus is telling the truth. That is the bottom line. You, WLC, & Krauss all know that. Krauss would also ring a cowbell at you to drowned you out. Wait, it was a buzzer, my bad.
I get your point, but your heavy handed. Again, Did you say William Lane Craig was not sure Jesus is Lord? Is that promoting peace or undermining a fellow worker? William Lane Craig believes because of his personal experiences, the arguments came later. If I am lying I am dying.
Beware your tongue. You can catch me off guard also, & I might say things that are harsh or seem like I do not believe in god. I do though.
KC
Evidence that claim.
KC
Thank you for taking the time. I find it interesting & challenging to meet someone who disagrees. Of course there are differing opinions.
Let's start where you did. You claimed WLC, 'preaches lies of science', claims, '"reasonable faith" is second to telepathy', & does not use Jesus' (not 'Jesus's', that is improper English) word. Let's see if what you brought up backs your claim. Should be enlightening & fun!
The wittiness of the Holy Spirit. WLC claims that is a valid way to know God, & so do I. It is not a scientific claim, just isn't. It does not validate or dismiss anything you have scientific evidence for. So it is not a lie of science.
It is philosophically the only true way to know, as anything beyond yourself requires you start accepting things you cannot prove are real. That would make it the most direct. It is, in fact, how Jesus claimed it. As it does not conflict with what Christ teaches otherwise, I fail to see your point there. Your personal experience has value. It is in line with Christian teachings.
Second, Alen Guth is an atheist. He does doubt the Universe had a beginning, but his reasons are due to his axiomatic metaphysical beliefs, not science. I am fully aware of where he stands, but it does not invalidate the theorem that these three men came up with.
'It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men & proof is what it takes to convince even unreasonable men. With a proof now in place, cosmologists can no longer hide behind the possibility of a past eternal Universe. There is no escape, they have to face the problem of a cosmic beginning.'- Alex Vilenkin, Many worlds in one: The search for other Universes (NY Hill & Wong 2006). This is a quote from the scientific findings they have, not a metaphysical position based off his personal axioms. He admits, 'I cannot say it proves God exists, but I would like to.'- Alex Vilenkin (Closer to truth, on youtube). That second statement is from his personal axioms.
Every model that is based off the scientific understanding we have right now, & not a metaphysical axiom without scientific basis, has a beginning. Just is. As far as we currently understand, the Universe is NOT past eternal. The rest is speculation without rational from these men. WLC is well within his right to claim this as evidence in his claim.
This is not a lie about scientific evidence from WLC. It is a difference in metaphysical axioms between Alan Guth & WLC. He has not lied, nor has he mislead anyone. It is easy to mistake the two different types of claims. That said, metaphysical claims are all philosophical, NOT scientific. I hope that clears it up for you.
As for your KCA kick back, it is fallacious. The KCA has premises that are almost Universally accepted by philosophers. Yours is an attempt at disproving his argument, not by addressing the arguments itself, but by making a false analogy. It is called a straw man. That argument you gave in no way invalidates or addresses what WLC is arguing. He is arguing the basics, not specifically about the God of Abraham in the KCA. That is about general theism, not the Abrahamic God sDo you see?
All said & done, Nothing you gave evidenced your claim. You claimed he does not preach Jesus, but he does directly at the end address the Holy Spirit as one form of evidence. He also asks people to look into that claim & he has a Historical claim about Jesus directly you ignored. You choose instead to go after the KCA that only posits that there is a God (general theism), not the Abrahamic God specifically. Which you straw manned! Worry about the timber in your own eye before trying to pick out the splinter in WLC's eye.
Finally, in no way is 'telepathy' brought up. Whatever gives you that claim as valid is still a complete mystery. I assume it hyperbolic language, in which case it is still illogical & wrong. WLC is making reasonable claims. I am sorry, but you are Not.
I hope that was helpful & not overly caustic. I do have to ask, What are your thoughts on God/gods? What is metaphysically/theologically true?
KC
No offense, but me ignoring you due to you being belligerent towards me, is not the same as me not enjoying finding out what people know on this subject. I like pizza also, but I do have preferences on what kind of pizza. Either way, I might eat something I did not like to be nice, but would not eat a nonfood item to be nice.
I also have trouble with some telling me what morality is, as they disrespect me. It makes it impossible to take you seriously, as your actions directly violate your claims.
God Bless son
THE SUPREME GOD , OF THE UNIVERSE IS EXODUS 6 : 3 , ISAIAH 12 : 2 , ISAIAH 26 : 4 , PSALMS 83 : 18 ... ( JEHOVAH ) ..
Is being a former alcoholic and former drug addict a prerequisite for becoming a Christian?
Candice Arlebemus No, but being a sinner in desperate need of forgiveness is, and that is something which we all share.
@@michaelburdge6748 I'm not a sinner. What are you talking about?
Candice Arlebemus yes, you are. As are the rest of us. There is none righteous, not even one.
@@michaelburdge6748 I have never violated any laws of your religion. Therefore I have never sinned.
Candice Arlebemus Do you love God with all of your heart? Do you love your neighbor as yourself? And do you do so perfectly?
Certainty is not proof.
My apologies but I thaught this video was going to be proving facts for certainty not just you preaching no offense but poeple can say things with opinions but facts and opinion are different
ruclips.net/video/vQKxoBpV2NE/видео.html
"How do you know?"
"God said so."
"How do you know God said so?"
Your move, Christian.
JMUDoc A collection of ancient writings and teachings along with the claims of a 1st century man named Yeshua who claimed to be God and cited those documents and later validated his claims through his resurrection
I would encourage you to check out “The Case for Christ” by Lee Strobel, either read or listen to the book. There’s also a movie, although I personally have never seen it so I don’t know how it compares to the book. You could also just search it on RUclips for videos that probably summarize if you don’t want to listen to/read the whole book.
Lee Strobel was a journalist and atheist, and his wife became a Christian. He thought she was crazy so he set off to research the Bible and Christianity to prove his wife wrong.
He talked to/interviewed many different people, like historians and stuff, to find out how accurate the Bible is compared to the original documents and things like that.
The evidence he found to support what the texts say, and how reliable the authors are was undeniable and overwhelming. He ended up becoming a Christian himself, and remember he set out with the belief that Christians were completely wrong, and the Bible is a fairytale that was written by some guy a long time ago.
I hope you’ll keep an open mind and check it out.
And He makes Himself known in creation, in our consciousness, in Jesus and revelation through the bible. Continued with revelation in our hearts and consciousness throughout your walk with Him. We know the word is truth because when embracing those truths they manifest in your life in a physical, tangible, emotional and spiritual way in your life.
@@ryancampaine5231 Prove it.
@@JMUDoc dont have to prove it! I already have it , dont need to prove it to you live and walk in peace with God. You believe any of the stories anyway
What is up with these nazis on youtube??? Literally just watched a 12 minute video from a guy with a few thousand less subscribers than you guys with 5 ads...…...but youR 1 hour 30 minute video has 0 ads LOL, COULD WE PLEASE TONE THE 1984 DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT!!!!!
Twoism
Y’all need science
We have plenty of scientists
They will just say that God created science, you can't win with these people. Approach them instead with SE.
God is science
@@billytaglis3586 donkeys can speak
They really need 2 make Wack-a-Mole, Richard Dawkins version
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🤓☄️🔨.… jk!
1.55: "We face tyrannical forms of gouvernment."
Seeing how the church actually tries to infiltrate the gouvernment to enact some pretty authoritarian policies (anti-abortion-laws, anti-lgbt laws, etc), this is some Alanis Morissette level of irony right there.
So is it tyrannical to impose law that prohibit murder? Point being is that God is the author of the Law... He's the one who says what is right and wrong... All the church is doing in the government is try to impose Gods Law and prohibit sinful things.
@@travisanderson3920
Abortion is not murder... it's not forcing someone to give up her rights on her own blood and womb for the sake of someone else.
Also, I guess that you believe god told us murder is wrong because of the 10 commandments?
So, when shall we start stoning people for working on saturdays, as god commanded?
How is that not authoritarian?
@@travisanderson3920
Also, if god really wanted you to prohibit "sinful things", he wouldn't have given us free will, now, would he?
Why are you trying to undo the freedoms god gave us?
(If he really existed I mean)
@@TsunamiNR if God is truly God then wouldn't he be the ultimate authority? God's law is written on our hearts... We all know murder is wrong... Nobody has to tell you or I that. Abortion is the murder of a baby that's inside of the mother. As soon as there's conception that baby has every piece of DNA that makes up a human being. It's just at a different stage of a life..
@@travisanderson3920
If god existed, the fact that we have free will means he isn't or wouldn't want to be the ultimate authority. We can decide for ourselves what's right and wrong.
Also, I don't need someone to "write into my heart" that murder is wrong. I can come to that conclusion purely through logic.
I also don't need a someone to tell me that forcing someone to give up their bodily autonomy for the sake of someone else is wrong. Even if the foetus would be human, if it needs your blood to survive, then you can decide whether you want to give it you blood or not. If you don't want to do that, then it dies... and if you don't like that, blame nature / your god for making us mamals instead of egg-laying animals.
You’ll never ever be certain because it is all make believe.
I don’t need the reassurance of charismatic salesmen to be certain my house exists or my wife exists.
QAnon im pretty sure if you were mentally ill, you would need convincingly. You are ill in your sin for denying God when he reveals himself to us via creation. Just take a walk outside, thats advertising for you.
And it's your house because a real estate agent sold it to you and she's your wife because you signed a contract? Is that all make believe just because you say so?
Sergio Azar
They’re tangible physical things that I can demonstrate exist.
JustJake
I don’t deny god but I’m convinced the god believer is mistaking his own thoughts for god.
QAnon I don't dispute they're physical, but what makes the house your house and the woman your wife? What physical thing binds them to you?
I've put it this way to atheists so many times, and the only response that they can give is: "Oh yeah, but... because... in a way... I mean... well, you're ugly."
A Creator God is a logical necessity based on the contingent nature of the physical universe.
Because the physical universe is contingent, it is not eternal. (Eternity means stability and immutability of essence, the impossibility of origin, cessation, or change, in effect, eternity means no past, present, or future; it is an eternal “now,” but matter/energy is in its essence a compendium of forces and potentialities; it is relativity itself, totally caught up in creation, living, changing, and dying, ergo matter and energy are not eternal) Every physical (natural) entity is contingent and therefore has a cause, and because causal chains cannot be of infinite length, because that would be an effect without a cause, if you were able to follow the causal chain back to the very beginning where the very first physical entity was effected into being, it's cause HAD to be supernatural, since the “natural” was not yet in existence, something cannot come from nothing, something cannot “be” before it “is,” and nothing can create itself (not even God). The reality of the impossibility of infinite causal chains also refutes any notion of a “multiverse” that some have posited as an explanation of the eternality of the universe, and it also nullifies the question “where did God come from?” that some have posed when God is explained as the ultimate cause of the universe.
Others (like Stephen Hawking) have foolishly said that we cannot talk about the origins of the universe since time itself did not exist before the universe began to expand at the Big Bang, so we just cannot know. However, since time is the progression of sequential relationships between two or more contiguous events, if there was indeed a point when there was no such thing as time, but assuming the universe did exist in some previous form, be it as a singularity, a quantum vacuum, or whatever, then because there was no time, then there would be no progression from the universe’s previous condition from “A” where there was no time to, “B” where there is time. Hence, if there was a point when there was no time, then there never would be time unless some supernatural (outside of nature) force created it.
Contingent beings are insufficient to account for the existence of contingent beings in the ultimate sense. Frederick Copelston once said, “If you add up chocolates, you get chocolates after all and not sheep. Therefore if you add up contingent entities, you are still left with contingent entities, and not an eternal one”: therefore there must exist a necessary, non-contingent, supernatural being whose non-existence is an impossibility, and from which the existence of all contingent, physical beings are derived (Hebrews 11:3).
Mormons say to him: We are certain the church is true
Durbin: How dare you, you disrespectful pal, you're wrong!
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Durbin: I am certain and who doesn't believe is a fool!
You obviously havnt watched jeff street preaching and if you have your misrepresenting Jeff. He def doesnt just go up to people and tell then they are wrong just because they are
I mean there’s a lot more to it than that..
This guy loves to bash different religions. He rarely talks about what he believes he just tells people what not to believe. He spreads doubt and confusion not faith and hope. He is a great salesman! And a great debater but I do not trust his intentions. He loves to argue and stir the pot. But most of all he will do whatever it takes to get views
This statement seems to indicate you have not watched very many Apologia vids.
@@TheGimmelstob and aren’t familiar with how much he’s actually done for others!
What a bunch of nonsense you spout!
The earth is a plane who agrees with me?
nope
The whole concept of apologetics is fundamentally flawed. There’s no need to defend faith; faith is just the belief that something is so. Faith does not require proof or evidence, just faith itself. If we knew what was true, there would be no need for faith at all. At no point in the bible does it require evidence outside of what’s written in it. Quite to the contrary, belief in the bible only relies on the faith that its contents are true.
Marc Wallace 1 Peter 3:15. The inspired Apostle disagrees with you.
Sorry, friend. You are flat wrong here. According to the Scriptures.
According to the scriptures and what other source(s)? Many books make claims, some supported by outside sources, some not. Generally speaking, people evaluate the strength of a statement based on how many sources there are to support the statement, as well as the validity of those sources. It’s inaccurate, or at least intellectually dishonest, to use a given publication to prove the veracity of the publication itself. It’s a bit like saying “It’s true because I say it is true.” So, what other written sources verify the section that you’re referring to (I guess I should clarify by saying, what tangible sources, since some take the default of “god” in lieu of any other verifiable source.) I’m sure that at this point you’re thinking that I have a problem with faith, but that’s not the issue I’m pointing to here. Faith is helpful, fellowship even more so, but it’s important to evaluate the basis of that faith and view it in a critical way. We can’t just say that we believe; we must also think of why we believe and evaluate whether or not our belief is consistent with our thinking. People once believed that the sun rotated around the earth, which we now know to be untrue, for example. To make a short story long, our thinking is just as important (some might even argue, more important?) as our faith.
Christian worldview: feet planted firmly on The Rock, Jesus Christ.
atheist worldview: feet planted "firmly" in the air and waving around aimlessly and, often, angrily.
This isn't an "atheist worldview" at all. This is a Strawman.
@Deavon Reye Says who? You? On your worldview, you are a soulless meat puppet with no OBJECTIVE worth, value meaning or purpose. Why should I or anyone else care what YOU consider a "strawman" or not? And by what standard do you make that claim? Your mere opinion? You believe you are a descendant of bacteria! Why should ANYone care about YOUR opinion?
@@justin10292000 You said all of this before....and it wasn't correct then either. You have zero understanding...and approach this topic like a child.
This sounds like hate preach.
By what standard do you decide Spiritual Truth is "hate preach"? Are you ever skeptical of YOUR skepticism? By what standard do YOU deem ANYTHING "hateful"? Your mere opinion? Why should I or anyone else care about YOUR mere opinion? Serious questions.
@@justin10292000 Anti atheist, anti lgbtq, anti logic, anti agnostic, anti science, you can't make sense of morality and science without my fake god.......yada yada yada. You are a sinner, you are going to hell, trying to separate instead of unify the people of this planet. Use vs them, us vs them, us vs them. blah blah blah.......on and on and on an on...just a bunch of dividing crap useless words spewn from men like this for centuries and centuries and centuries......