For all the people out there who think all Republicans were portrayed poorly in this show, here's exhibit A as to why they are wrong. Rep. Bruno clearly has a respect for Leo. He protects him here, and he protects him in season 3 during the hearings into Bartlet's MS. He's exactly what you want in the opposition: someone who isn't looking to score cheap political points going after someone's personal issues.
That's fine. Just don't mix up fictional Republicans like Rep. Bruno with Republicans after Trump was elected President, because they are a whole different, poisonous species.
That was back when the GOP were patriots and could be portrayed as such while having a different point of view. Today they’re seditionist who puts party or personality over country.
Yeah but this was normal. Republicans got co-opted by the extreme right around 2008amd became the super racist, bigoted backward thinking tools we know today.
2:35 That look Leo gives him when he says to call the President foolish, like he's just now thinking "What other bad advice has this guy been giving me?"
Ever since I first saw this episode I've wondered what that guy Simon's deal was. He's described as a "senior Democrat" and he seems to be old friends with Leo (at least up until this scene) and yet he's clearly not a good guy and Leo clearly knows it. What was their history? What was Simon's role in the Democratic party? Why were he and Leo friends up to this point?
From the West Wing wiki: "Congressman Simon Blye (D) was a member of Congress and a friend of Leo McGarry. He wrote an op-ed piece for the Washington Post calling for McGarry's resignation after he admitted to drug and alcohol abuse. McGarry kicks him out of the White House and accuses him of "whoring for Atlantic Oil". "
We see how Leo is always trying to do the right thing, but we shouldn't forget that he is a "world class political operative" and a "big guy in the Democratic Party". You don't get to be that without cultivating relationships, even with bad people.
I think it's less that he's "not a good guy" and more he was basically running his own agenda for the future of the Democratic party, but Leo and Jed ARE the party leadership. Everyone else is trying to run around them and it's pissing Leo off. When Leo says, "the president refused my resignation" that's basically the end of the conversation and Simon should have understood that better. If he takes potshots at the sitting president's Chief of Staff he's just endangering his own future as a politician. And Leo rightly points out how he's using the scandal to get face time in the media.
@@ThiagoNascimelo "Leo is always trying to do the right thing" -- except when he had that scientific research cut from a press briefing CJ was going to do because its facts and conclusions didn't fit the Democrat's agenda
This is what happens. Teens in the White House. You screwed this up from the beginning. You should've been there on McGarry, and run an internal investigation. You come remarkably close to perjury in the Claypool deposition. I'd like to hold hearings into the two of you being stupid.
Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Rev Al Caldwell was played by F. William Parker, and reappears in season 2. Simon Blye was played by Dakin Matthews, and only appears in this episode.
This Simon is acting like a typical Democratic Party big donor and insider. Panic at the first moment of trouble, buckle, and throw your own under the bus.
@@catherinewilliams9680 The Republicans tend to be much stronger. Some of the ex-GOP strategists who support Biden said that the Republicans would have lined up behind their nominee without reservation had he performed as poorly as Biden did in the debate.
Only if one uses the definition of "think" very loosely. Your EEG has been an uninterrupted flatline since birth, and it will continue that way until death.
For all the people out there who think all Republicans were portrayed poorly in this show, here's exhibit A as to why they are wrong. Rep. Bruno clearly has a respect for Leo. He protects him here, and he protects him in season 3 during the hearings into Bartlet's MS. He's exactly what you want in the opposition: someone who isn't looking to score cheap political points going after someone's personal issues.
That's fine. Just don't mix up fictional Republicans like Rep. Bruno with Republicans after Trump was elected President, because they are a whole different, poisonous species.
Made a nice change for him to play someone with some decency instead of Haverhill in NYPD Blue.
That was back when the GOP were patriots and could be portrayed as such while having a different point of view. Today they’re seditionist who puts party or personality over country.
Yeah but this was normal. Republicans got co-opted by the extreme right around 2008amd became the super racist, bigoted backward thinking tools we know today.
Republicans are all about cheap political points. That's why they keep pretending to care about abortion.
2:35 That look Leo gives him when he says to call the President foolish, like he's just now thinking "What other bad advice has this guy been giving me?"
Ever since I first saw this episode I've wondered what that guy Simon's deal was. He's described as a "senior Democrat" and he seems to be old friends with Leo (at least up until this scene) and yet he's clearly not a good guy and Leo clearly knows it. What was their history? What was Simon's role in the Democratic party? Why were he and Leo friends up to this point?
From the West Wing wiki:
"Congressman Simon Blye (D) was a member of Congress and a friend of Leo McGarry. He wrote an op-ed piece for the Washington Post calling for McGarry's resignation after he admitted to drug and alcohol abuse. McGarry kicks him out of the White House and accuses him of "whoring for Atlantic Oil". "
We see how Leo is always trying to do the right thing, but we shouldn't forget that he is a "world class political operative" and a "big guy in the Democratic Party". You don't get to be that without cultivating relationships, even with bad people.
I think it's less that he's "not a good guy" and more he was basically running his own agenda for the future of the Democratic party, but Leo and Jed ARE the party leadership. Everyone else is trying to run around them and it's pissing Leo off. When Leo says, "the president refused my resignation" that's basically the end of the conversation and Simon should have understood that better. If he takes potshots at the sitting president's Chief of Staff he's just endangering his own future as a politician. And Leo rightly points out how he's using the scandal to get face time in the media.
@@ThiagoNascimelo "Leo is always trying to do the right thing" -- except when he had that scientific research cut from a press briefing CJ was going to do because its facts and conclusions didn't fit the Democrat's agenda
@@firstname4337 When did that happen?
"...the sort of friends who make you prefer your enemies..."--Sir Humphrey Appleby, "Yes, Minister."
(Yes, Minister/Yes, Prime Minister) A much better show than The West Wing!
OMG YOU CUT RIGHT BEFORE THE BEST LINE!! 😂
Again!!! What is it with the person uploading these clips??
@@anenglishmaninsandiego Almost like they want you to watch the whole show ;)
This is what happens.
Teens in the White House.
You screwed this up
from the beginning.
You should've been there on McGarry,
and run an internal investigation.
You come remarkably close to perjury
in the Claypool deposition.
I'd like to hold hearings
into the two of you being stupid.
Precisely!
@@philipwhiuk, Yep!
A great scene!
This might be one of the best scenes in the whole show.
There are way too many great scenes to make that statement. Sorry, but we must disagree.
They should've included this part of the scene, "I'd like to hold hearings, on the two of you being stupid!"
simon better get over to the gilmore girls, he has a school to run
If I am not mistaken, this actor also played the reverend in the pilot episode who was part of the meeting where Bartlet's character was introduced.
Unfortunately, you are mistaken. Rev Al Caldwell was played by F. William Parker, and reappears in season 2. Simon Blye was played by Dakin Matthews, and only appears in this episode.
They do look very similar!
That’s a negative sir.
@@MrATimm You are correct. Thanks. I was thinking Dakin Matthews for both.
Simon is strictly a political animal. He’s literally about what’s best for the party - Leo knows this.
He is everything I hate in politics
Not best for the party...what is best for his seat of power.
What's best for his pockets and his time in the limelight*
God the way the camera slides constantlly behind sam and josh is really quite irritating. Not sure what affect they were going for there.
Standout small character.
Simon the traitor... have a spine
Hunter Biden got his own WW episode.
This Simon is acting like a typical Democratic Party big donor and insider. Panic at the first moment of trouble, buckle, and throw your own under the bus.
Simon isn't just a typical Democrat party donor. He's a Typical Political insider/donor. The GOP is filled with Simons as well.
@@catherinewilliams9680 The Republicans tend to be much stronger. Some of the ex-GOP strategists who support Biden said that the Republicans would have lined up behind their nominee without reservation had he performed as poorly as Biden did in the debate.
I see the title and immediatly think Joe Biden at the state of the union.
I’m sure you identify strongly with the title. Now, off to get your fix!
It must to unsettling to discover that Biden is not as addled as right wing media has made him out to be.
Only if one uses the definition of "think" very loosely. Your EEG has been an uninterrupted flatline since birth, and it will continue that way until death.