While they are more expensive I have used Sensaphone Web600 devices to monitor multiple things like room temperature, humidity, and leak detection. They have 6 channel inputs that can be set to N.O. or N.C. and send alerts for each channel. Each channel can be given a custom name. In your case you could actually wire the Alarm, Trouble, and Supervisory relays off the FACP to the Sensaphone and monitor all three. The Web600 connects to an email server (gmail will work) and can be set to email or use the email to text address that most carriers provide. I have found that the email to txt address vs the email to mms messaging sometimes uses the same phone number. This depends on your phone carrier.
What I did is take a ring alarm co and smoke listener and put it next to a horn strobe. This makes it so it alerts me, but won't tell me if there's any other conditions on the panel. Still cool though.
In New Zealand, some Pertronic alarm panels have a feature where you can connect them to your pager or even printer. The best panel I recommend for price to feature ratio is the F100 which i know has that feature and can be configured to do many other things. Or you can use something smaller like the F1 or F4. But i don’t know if they have it.
@@pilotboy Not public info. If you ask enough tecnitions they might give offer you a previusley installed one. I am expecting to get one at the end of the year.
that’s a pretty neat solution especially without building anything software-side. if i had a panel myself i’d probably play around with coding something to DIY it 😂
I also wanted to mention after watching alot of your other vidoes.. it would be really cool if you have annunciator in your room or somewhere in the house so you could monitor or silence / reset the system without having to get up and / or go outside
There is two problems with that though first one being I won't stay in the same room second of all if the fire alarm goes off it's going off for a reason and I need to get out to see the problem ASAP you never ever silence a fire alarm blind if your building is going on fire you're not going to just wake up silence the alarm without going to see what's happening first
@@nics-systems-electric good points.. I just thaught I would suggest it. Also I assumed you had a way to look at your cameras while your in the house and if you could see there was nothing going on (false alarm) you could silence or reset the system from the annunciator
Curious if it works reliably with the door closed on the panel? Other than the plastic window, the red box makes for a bit of a faraday cage which could cause some level of Wi-Fi interference. I suppose if your AP is close by it’s not that much of an issue tho. Good job on the install and engineering; quite the unique “hack” you came up with!
BTW: Did that WIFI unit still connect to the AP after you closed the door on the file panel? I would thing that the fire panel being made out of metal would block the wifi signal from getting out.
I've made a homemade communicator using an esp8266 wifi microcontroller running some basic code to connect to wifi and send an email using SMTP. This method also has no subscription fees and only costs like $5 for the controller. Let me know if anyone wants more info.
Would it work if you switched the normally closed with the normally open so the power will turn back on and it will send a message? Might be better than disconnecting the power and it should still send you a message if it turns back on
I was just talking to my dad about doing this same concept with my garage/pole barn, haha. Is there any way the text can say something like "Alarm Active"?
Please note that this alarm communcator still needs working Wifi. I think a communicator working on comination on fixed (internet) connection and mobile as backup is the best approach, you don't to miss fire alarms due to a malfunction wifi
I talked about this in the video that it does not need Wi-Fi and will still communicate a loss of power without not to mention my Wi-Fi doesn't go out in a power outage
While they are more expensive I have used Sensaphone Web600 devices to monitor multiple things like room temperature, humidity, and leak detection. They have 6 channel inputs that can be set to N.O. or N.C. and send alerts for each channel. Each channel can be given a custom name. In your case you could actually wire the Alarm, Trouble, and Supervisory relays off the FACP to the Sensaphone and monitor all three. The Web600 connects to an email server (gmail will work) and can be set to email or use the email to text address that most carriers provide. I have found that the email to txt address vs the email to mms messaging sometimes uses the same phone number. This depends on your phone carrier.
What I did is take a ring alarm co and smoke listener and put it next to a horn strobe. This makes it so it alerts me, but won't tell me if there's any other conditions on the panel. Still cool though.
Step 1: Get a fire alarm panel.
I mean you could use it for its intended purposes without one lol
@@nics-systems-electric oh i know exactly what i would use it for now
Nifty way to do this. Thanks for sharing.
In New Zealand, some Pertronic alarm panels have a feature where you can connect them to your pager or even printer. The best panel I recommend for price to feature ratio is the F100 which i know has that feature and can be configured to do many other things. Or you can use something smaller like the F1 or F4. But i don’t know if they have it.
im in nz too, whats the average price for a f100a or f220
@@pilotboy Not public info. If you ask enough tecnitions they might give offer you a previusley installed one. I am expecting to get one at the end of the year.
that’s a pretty neat solution especially without building anything software-side. if i had a panel myself i’d probably play around with coding something to DIY it 😂
thats actually a really smart way of doing it, and it seems to work pretty well
Thats actually very smart idea! This will be useful for me in the future
What is "that button"?
Hey nick, look up United security AD-2000
Or IP auto alarm dialer.
More potential options
I also wanted to mention after watching alot of your other vidoes.. it would be really cool if you have annunciator in your room or somewhere in the house so you could monitor or silence / reset the system without having to get up and / or go outside
There is two problems with that though first one being I won't stay in the same room second of all if the fire alarm goes off it's going off for a reason and I need to get out to see the problem ASAP you never ever silence a fire alarm blind if your building is going on fire you're not going to just wake up silence the alarm without going to see what's happening first
@@nics-systems-electric good points.. I just thaught I would suggest it. Also I assumed you had a way to look at your cameras while your in the house and if you could see there was nothing going on (false alarm) you could silence or reset the system from the annunciator
Have you thought of adding a sprinkler head box for spare sprinkler heads?
Yes they are cool since you can store a wrench in there too I only have three extra heads so I can't bring myself to get one
Been wondering! Thanks!
One of my grand parents has one of those in their panel
Curious if it works reliably with the door closed on the panel? Other than the plastic window, the red box makes for a bit of a faraday cage which could cause some level of Wi-Fi interference. I suppose if your AP is close by it’s not that much of an issue tho. Good job on the install and engineering; quite the unique “hack” you came up with!
I haven't had any problems with it
BTW: Did that WIFI unit still connect to the AP after you closed the door on the file panel? I would thing that the fire panel being made out of metal would block the wifi signal from getting out.
I've made a homemade communicator using an esp8266 wifi microcontroller running some basic code to connect to wifi and send an email using SMTP. This method also has no subscription fees and only costs like $5 for the controller. Let me know if anyone wants more info.
I have a bunch of arduinos and wanted to do this
@FireTech7 yeah would have to be one of the wifi/ethernet ones. Just the esp8266 is cheaper and programmed using the same arduino IDE software!
@@rovitogaming I see
Are you going to use this same setup to monitor the house system?
Your your own monitoring company 😂
Would it work if you switched the normally closed with the normally open so the power will turn back on and it will send a message? Might be better than disconnecting the power and it should still send you a message if it turns back on
No because then it would run out of battery and do nothing
@@nics-systems-electricOml i can’t believe I forgot about the battery 💀
My brain isn’t braining properly
Hi nik when you iron out the bug's, hope you get working the way you want if you don't try how are you going to know
I was just talking to my dad about doing this same concept with my garage/pole barn, haha. Is there any way the text can say something like "Alarm Active"?
You don't seem to be able to change the message unfortunately
@@nics-systems-electric that’s what I thought. Did you ever figure out what fried your MS-4, besides that button?
@@FiresideAlarms no I haven't even thought about it in four years
Nic, would you be interested in a proper IP/phone dialer?
Yeah I'm not sure this works well enough for me
By illegal, do u mean you could get in trouble for this or its just not listed for this type of thing?
It's not legal as in not accepted as a means of notification but the system also is not legally required to be here
@@nics-systems-electric Ok. so no is going to come after me if i make this ok. Thanks
If you say "$100", I assume CAD (Canadian Dollars)
Please note that this alarm communcator still needs working Wifi. I think a communicator working on comination on fixed (internet) connection and mobile as backup is the best approach, you don't to miss fire alarms due to a malfunction wifi
I talked about this in the video that it does not need Wi-Fi and will still communicate a loss of power without not to mention my Wi-Fi doesn't go out in a power outage
was this video before you installed it?
Just watch the video it's literally showing me installing it
The real question is, why the fuck did Jamie have Ryan's money? Did he get it back?
Engineering grade bonding method:
zip-tie
Where is that?
In response to the high tech method: tape
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"why are u being such a dick" 🤣🤣
@@mircomamsecosirensnalarms no im laughing at what he said not nic lol