Pro Plays Pro: Yuri vs Iraq (observer) // Command and Conquer Yuri's Revenge

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    Spectating a pro Yuri's Revenge game with ZigZag (sov) and Buffalo (Yuri) and bringing you my commentary from a live Twitch stream of Command and Conquer! Please be sure to subscribe and follow me on Twitch for more C&C action!
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  • @vladimirmaslivetc5244
    @vladimirmaslivetc5244 6 лет назад +58

    So glad you are back! Hope things are going well for you :-)
    I really like this type of videos when you are not busy palying the game but comment over it instead

  • @cptxander
    @cptxander 6 лет назад +88

    What I learned in this video: Yuri has cash advantage late game

  • @Rangernewb5550
    @Rangernewb5550 6 лет назад +9

    This is the first time I've seen actual strategy in this game, instead of zerg rushing with cheap troops like I did when I was a kid. Subscribed.

  • @BillTheDisaster
    @BillTheDisaster 6 лет назад +10

    I like a long battle. It's so cool for who collect and can save money first or not. Of course who can work strategy with economy, this one only win. And i like to destroy Massive enemy base in short time. It's really challenging.

  • @wallflips
    @wallflips 4 года назад +5

    Hey man, I'm a new subscriber of yours, I love the seriousness/pro vibe that's going around your gameplay and commentary. From what I've seen so far I really think that it'll be super cool if you could do some pro tutorial series where you can kind of "label" different strategies and techniques and how to train/master them so it would be easier for one to organize their skillset. Thanks and GG!

  • @Arczir1337
    @Arczir1337 6 лет назад +14

    wow, such an interesting match, I love how the players utilized their assets - that grinder coming to play after terror drone strike was one of those little things

  • @yohvh
    @yohvh 6 лет назад +24

    What is this ? Jurrasic park? Ancient channel coming alive

  • @itsjustdex
    @itsjustdex 6 лет назад +6

    I'm surprised the Soviet player didn't send a Desolator or two to deploy over the cliffs and slow the slave miners down a bit.

  • @NeilRoy
    @NeilRoy 6 лет назад +56

    I have always preferred playing Yuri, but never realized you could use the genetic mutator on yourself for money. Wow.

    • @TheKnightOfSmite
      @TheKnightOfSmite 6 лет назад +17

      Neil Roy This strat is one of many that broke Yuri in FFA games and in duels or 2v2 it made Yuri's late game OP

    • @jolin7371
      @jolin7371 5 лет назад +2

      i always use genetic on slaves and sell 😂😂

    • @MA-nx3xj
      @MA-nx3xj 3 года назад +5

      Yuri faction just seems overpowered af..

    • @Serjo777
      @Serjo777 2 года назад

      @@MA-nx3xj It is, and not just because of the endless money thing. Being able to take over enemy troops is also a *_huge_* advantage, the other factions have nothing that can rival that.

  • @chrismilton3240
    @chrismilton3240 5 лет назад +1

    Pro matches in this game are basically wars of attrition, at least early on, its almost like free form chess, calculated moves every step of the way, this is pretty amazing.

  • @scythe91
    @scythe91 6 лет назад +4

    Aww yiss been waiting for a new video since forever!

  • @MagnnuM
    @MagnnuM 4 года назад +2

    06:56 that voice crack tho xD

  • @Anuca6
    @Anuca6 6 лет назад +3

    Welcome back, mate. Hope med school's doing you a good solid. Best of luck.

  • @TheHoboJesus
    @TheHoboJesus 5 лет назад

    Holy shit, all these years and ive never heard of ppl playing competitive Yuris Revenge. This is great

  • @chaldoskillz
    @chaldoskillz 6 лет назад +1

    Nice. Do more of these ProPlays w/ commentary

  • @martynasseniunas9602
    @martynasseniunas9602 6 лет назад +9

    I heard the guy (ZigZag) passed away.. poor guy :/

  • @snow9209
    @snow9209 6 лет назад +4

    DOC, I NEED SOME RED ALERT REMEDIES! Welcome back :)

  • @AdventureTimeWithAsh
    @AdventureTimeWithAsh 6 лет назад

    awesome to see the video finally uploaded

  • @Azzzyyyy99977
    @Azzzyyyy99977 6 лет назад +12

    Yuri is OP on this gane thats Why Nobody allows it on a Match

    • @larsglania9244
      @larsglania9244 5 лет назад

      Yup cuz of that he can shit out a ton of mutations and let him eat these mutations for a huge amount of money so if the Gold field is run out hmm fucks given i have my mutations to feed for money easy game easy life ;D

    • @KotCR
      @KotCR 4 года назад

      @@larsglania9244 The Genetic Mutator infinite money exploit is certainly what tips it over the edge, but there's more to how broken the faction is than that. He doesn't just have a stronger economy anyway, but everything he has is generally more cost-effective than it's Soviet/Allied counterparts. This gives Yuri yet another advantage on the economic front.
      But yeah, that's pretty much all a Yuri play needs to do; Stay on the defensive until the resources are dried up on the map, then simply swarm over any opponent once he's the only side that can maintain any kind of economy. It's lame design, TBH.
      Other games that do this sort of thing, usually try to compensate by making the faction weaker at lower tiers (kind of a, push your advantage to take them out fast, or face the consequences, kind of deal), but this simply isn't the case with Yuri. With stuff like his artillery vessel not needing a tech centre, or his basic combat tank being equal or superior to that of the allies' in everyway, he maintains the early game advantage too.

  • @facu40000
    @facu40000 6 лет назад +11

    Hey Bryan, I love your vids. Can I make a suggestion? Can you put the names of the players in the title or description, kinda like Yuri (playername) vs Iraq (playername)? I know is just a detail but it helps to remember their names if they appear in future videos.
    Greetings from Argentina!

    • @facu40000
      @facu40000 6 лет назад +1

      Bryan Vahey Thanks for responding!

  • @GermanPhoenix
    @GermanPhoenix 6 лет назад

    How do I get my original old Red Alert 2 and Yuri to install and work on windows 10 ?

  • @therealmoose6441
    @therealmoose6441 6 лет назад +6

    6:57 Zig ZAG

  • @VerticalWit
    @VerticalWit 6 лет назад

    Awesome! Ty for the video

  • @eynidhelipp9348
    @eynidhelipp9348 6 лет назад

    Totally wasted an iron curtain with those terror drones instead of the flack tracks to take out that disc fleet

  • @navi0822
    @navi0822 6 лет назад +1

    Hell yeah I have been waiting for this!

  • @cylcyl5885
    @cylcyl5885 4 года назад +1

    You are the first red alert channel host who I found has good voice 😂 like to hear u talk

  • @cobrazax
    @cobrazax 5 лет назад +1

    actually yuri can also get regular inf from the cloning which will basically cost 100 per one...and add them to the mutator for 5 times cost refund!

  • @joshrobbinsditto3055
    @joshrobbinsditto3055 6 лет назад +1

    Would it have been effective for him to use the nuke on the units or not? He could've used the helicopters to lure them in.

  • @smegmalasagna
    @smegmalasagna 6 лет назад

    You could also use the nuke to throw it on your enemies army.

  • @schultydaozzi1477
    @schultydaozzi1477 6 лет назад +1

    hey guys love the game but cant play online any help????

  • @purebaldness
    @purebaldness 6 лет назад

    Don't people still use magnetrons with lasher tanks to spam pick up enemy tanks just long enough for the lashers to still fire? They used to do way more damage whilst tanks were being levitated!

  • @husseinfalih1339
    @husseinfalih1339 6 лет назад

    welcome back man

  • @aratanaenor
    @aratanaenor 6 лет назад

    When did you record this? I haven't seen any YR on Twitch in a while.

  • @katepro5451
    @katepro5451 6 лет назад

    Can anyone please explain why are they building multiple tank factories since u can only produce from one ?
    Also Grinder is my absolutely favorite building in any game , so fun to send units there , especially mind controlled ones xD

  • @drakemguard1407
    @drakemguard1407 4 года назад

    12:28 what the hell the saucer can take the flak trucks!!! Why did he run away!!

  • @frogman1818
    @frogman1818 6 лет назад

    bryan is backkkkk

  • @AdventureTimeWithAsh
    @AdventureTimeWithAsh 6 лет назад

    after i have played with you and i got yuri i realized how noob i'm with yuri so i started playing yuri and i have defeated some good players on TOE it was so funny when you hunt the miner with the mega tank

  • @AHMAD0SHISHANI
    @AHMAD0SHISHANI 6 лет назад

    Can you give the link ' how to play Vs yuri'

  • @jasonstover7557
    @jasonstover7557 5 лет назад +5

    Yuri was very broken even with super weapons on back in the day. These players were well matched for each other, but far from pro.
    Their builds were far from optimal considering super weapons were turned on. Each player if they are controlling their miners from time to time should only need 4 miners to be able to get to a tech lab and still be building tanks non-stop.
    -Both players floating 10k ore at one point
    -Neither player optimizing miners by having them mine the patches closest to the miner
    -No killing slaves with desolators
    -No yuri prime used in an offensive push
    *This can be used to make an offensive grinder against iron curtain terror drones and have a psy tower queued up to grind more units
    -Yuri did not harvest gems until late, he was stretching base the wrong way, 3rd or 4th miner should've gone there
    -Miners not transferred off of ore fields as ore was running out, which leads to inefficient mining
    -Yuri can also create a cloning vat in the super late game, make initiates and genetic mutate them to brutes. It brings in almost double what you can make from slaves.
    I'm sure I will get some people hating or down voting. But, I just wanted to point out that there are no more pro players at this game. The game play is very casual in comparison to when this game was at its peak back in the day.
    All the same, I still love watching it and I hear EA may be re-releasing RA2/Yuris Revenge and were asking about what players would like to see. New UI, better balanced units/races, etc.
    www.kotaku.com.au/2018/10/ea-reveals-command-conquer-remasters-no-microtransactions/

  • @Sunnysideanyway
    @Sunnysideanyway 6 лет назад

    When do you stream?

  • @hemandy94
    @hemandy94 6 лет назад +2

    6:09 mind game against Yuri? Hehehe

  • @khaledfd997
    @khaledfd997 6 лет назад +2

    Dammit Bryan I was going to sleep

  • @krisfrederick5001
    @krisfrederick5001 2 года назад

    The ESPN of C and C. Love it

  • @aleksandarpvp9183
    @aleksandarpvp9183 3 года назад

    what map were they playing on?

  • @AhmedAymanM
    @AhmedAymanM 6 лет назад

    One of the best ways to win as yuri ... :D

  • @ttaddict9988
    @ttaddict9988 2 года назад

    Yuri’s too OP with grinder trick :))

  • @xxlegolas
    @xxlegolas 4 года назад

    Thanks for the video(s)

  • @daanmollema6366
    @daanmollema6366 4 года назад

    So why does nobody on yuri build lasher tanks? Arent they both higher damage and higher armor than gatling tanks?

    • @dracmeister
      @dracmeister 3 года назад

      Because they have the same stats as the Grizzly Tank. And Yuri has more utility units to use money for than just something weaker than a Rhino Tank.
      Still though, there are certain circumstances where Lashers are useful, they just need to outpace the Rhino count.

  • @legolegs87
    @legolegs87 6 лет назад +1

    IMHO ZigZag had to invest at least one Iron Curtain into cutting down disk population with flack trucks.

    • @JasonSmith-bf3mh
      @JasonSmith-bf3mh 6 лет назад +2

      Tej is one of the best yuri's around, i should have probably mixed flak n drones in the ic's but as you can see, i barely got near him throughout the game, fights against yuri are very map dependent. If the Yuri is strong like my opponent here, they will win 90% of maps

  • @pulDag
    @pulDag 6 лет назад

    If Yuri has superior army, why there is no attemp to base trade (attack along with MCV)?

  • @Asidders
    @Asidders 4 года назад

    16:25 Poor Engineer :(

  • @smegmalasagna
    @smegmalasagna 6 лет назад

    7:55 “Zigzag is all out of money though” *Looks at Zigzag’s amount of money* Hmmm 🤔

  • @MCmamont90
    @MCmamont90 6 лет назад +5

    And after that, Yuri is not an OP?

  • @mahmoudabozied2069
    @mahmoudabozied2069 3 года назад

    How about (no brutes farm) with yuri sw.

  • @BinLamim
    @BinLamim 6 лет назад +3

    Hell yeah, new video! Also, more Yuri pls. I am but a student.

  • @Asidders
    @Asidders 4 года назад

    It looks like 4 players playing at once 😅

  • @Spectre483
    @Spectre483 6 лет назад +1

    Yuri vs Iraq should be the name of a movie

  • @turboman9471
    @turboman9471 6 лет назад +2

    Definitely should’ve used the nuke more on his units, could’ve created an opening for your helicopters or tanks to take out the structures.

  • @PeakHealthTypicalLiving
    @PeakHealthTypicalLiving 3 года назад

    Not good ending for the soviet... He invested so much building those crap Choppers that was nearly suicidal.

  • @ZEUSxEIC
    @ZEUSxEIC 3 года назад

    RIP ZIGZAG

  • @wefinishthisnow3883
    @wefinishthisnow3883 Год назад +1

    Didn't Westwood admit that Yuri was intentionally OP to make people play them? They just never rebalanced them.
    * Eco - Their mining is the most efficient + eco late game they get the mutator + grinder. Soviets already had the eco advantage, now Yuri is another step ahead.
    * Air - Discs are amazing at everything and have far too much armour.
    * AA - Gatlings are just amazing at everything and work great with Levitation tanks.
    * Artillery - Levitation tanks are insta-hit and outrange even Prisms!
    * Mind control - Obviously OP, especially when they can outrange any unit and bring them to the mind control units.
    * Virus - They get the UK special faction unit as a normal unit, but she's even better because she spreads damage
    * Sea - Boomers are basically subs + dreadnoughts for the cost of 1 ship.
    * Superweapons - The Yuri ultimate even hurts buildings and unlike the weather control and nuke is insta-hit. Completely OP.
    COUNTERS: Robot tanks are the weakest unit in the game and have a single point of failure so they don't work. Soviet drones as you see in this video are useless because Yuri can just grind them.

  • @pogankvs
    @pogankvs 5 лет назад

    R.I.P. ZigZag... 😫

  • @KevinEontrainer381
    @KevinEontrainer381 5 лет назад

    13:47 because game balancing is important

  • @BLT_Biscuit
    @BLT_Biscuit 6 лет назад

    I wish I could play this in Windows 10.

  • @superbadass4540
    @superbadass4540 6 лет назад

    Keep it up

  • @cookiesandcream8442
    @cookiesandcream8442 4 года назад

    Bias map? The buildings???

  • @dumitrudan608
    @dumitrudan608 3 года назад

    So nice to see someone commentating Yuri games. But I have to be honest, I got dizi while you were clicking around all over the place. Try watching
    LowkoTV play starcraft. you will see that there is a big difference between when he is casting and when he is playing.

  • @SmoKKz0r
    @SmoKKz0r 6 лет назад

    Yuir so OP

  • @tylerpearson3180
    @tylerpearson3180 6 лет назад

    If he would have gotten more value out of his nukes earlier, then he would have had more of a chance of winning.

  • @DasBrotBernd
    @DasBrotBernd 6 лет назад

    Whats wrong here? At 1:21 the Soviet Ore Refinery is under the War Factory, 10 seconds later, it is next to it.

    • @MechaGodAnri
      @MechaGodAnri 3 года назад

      Idk if you figured it out but each refinery you build you get a miner for free then sell the old refinery, that's what happened here. It's cost and time efficient this way since you get money back for selling the refinery so it's as if you just paid for a miner anyway, unsure what % you get back for selling but it's cheaper this way.
      This also frees up your vehicle queues to build military units instead of wasting time on miners and that's important early on. If you were to waste time building a miner in the vehicle factory this early in the game you're pretty much screwed against someone who knows how to play lol.

  • @Sakobedig
    @Sakobedig 6 лет назад

    How can I play online in 2018? Where the community at?

    • @Sakobedig
      @Sakobedig 6 лет назад

      I was serious, but already installed and playing it now online, thanks for the reply

  • @Serjo777
    @Serjo777 2 года назад

    Can you even win against a good Yuri player if you don't just luck out on a rush?

  • @parteuy3434
    @parteuy3434 4 года назад

    Builds desolators..
    Doesn't use them..

  • @mellinu
    @mellinu 6 лет назад

    how can we get this in 2018 ?

    • @mellinu
      @mellinu 6 лет назад

      sorry? u sent me to my vids

  • @Templarfreak
    @Templarfreak 6 лет назад +11

    This is why Superweapons are important and why you shouldn't turn them off. This game would have been easily twice as long and stalematey and boring for half of it because outside of Superweapon usage they were so even for most of the game and right ontop of each other so well to where neither could really do anything. Even with Superweapon usage they were still pretty even.
    ZigZag definitely wasted a lot of those Iron Curtains, he was clearly focusing else-where whenever he moved in those Terror Drones but that was really the most important thing he needed to do instead of focusing on other things and I think that really lost him the game. If he could have had better Iron Curtain control, he would've easily been able to pick off what he wanted in that base because there would've been a lot less Gattling Cannons and Tanks.

    • @JasonSmith-bf3mh
      @JasonSmith-bf3mh 6 лет назад +4

      The yuri player constantly sent waves in order to make me waste the iron curtain on defense rather than use it on offense. there was 1 or 2 incidents where i shoud have sent thedrones elsewhere but im probably dealing with something else, the video happens to miss a lot of the gameplay.

    • @Templarfreak
      @Templarfreak 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah, that's about what I was saying. It looked like you were focused elsewhere, but the problem is you really needed those Iron Curtains to deal as much damage as possible. There were many opportunities where your Terror Drones only got a couple units here or there when you had a whole pack of them. It seemed like you were just settling with getting rid of Masterminds and Magnetrons but you needed to do as much damage as possible. You just had a lot of missed opportunities. Imagine if some of the more early Iron Curtains were as successful as the one at ~7:50 (Although that one probably wasn't the most successful one in the game because they did successfully grind them all)
      Having to play defensive was part of the issue too, I agree. You just never quite got that momentum you needed to dictate the pace of the game, which you really need on a Yuri. Way more-so than any other matchup.

    • @lordesfairgenug
      @lordesfairgenug 6 лет назад +2

      I think this is just bullshit, Superweapons make Yuri even more op than he already is. Mutator is the best secondary superweapon as seen in the game and dominator is also the best because it is the only primary superweapon that can reliably hit armies...

  • @shiniyuxue4728
    @shiniyuxue4728 6 лет назад

    Pro showed u how he played with himself as a Pro.

  • @WhisperingEntity
    @WhisperingEntity 6 лет назад

    6:09 Against Yuri?... yes it is =P

  • @desen6486
    @desen6486 6 лет назад

    6:50 Was expecting to see the helicopters deployed and the Iron Curtain used, probably would have won the game with all the damage it would cause.
    Instead the curtains got continually used on a bunch of Terror Drones. This is HORRIBLE. Yuri gets a 100% refund on vehicles in the grinder, Soviet player sacrificed a bunch of $500 terror drones and several Iron Curtains to deal $0 of damage.

    • @maury11196
      @maury11196 5 лет назад

      this
      he should've just deployed them and iron curtain could've taken out half his shit

  • @braavojohnny2509
    @braavojohnny2509 6 лет назад

    Good

  • @AdventureTimeWithAsh
    @AdventureTimeWithAsh 6 лет назад

    how can i counter a shit load of mirage tank if i were yuri ?

    • @MrWabak
      @MrWabak 6 лет назад

      ِ Ahmad Abn Al Waleed Discs?

    • @AdventureTimeWithAsh
      @AdventureTimeWithAsh 6 лет назад

      Soblet discs are slow actually the whole yuri army such at mobility

  • @superbadass4540
    @superbadass4540 6 лет назад

    Hey brow u are a good Player. Or i wil call pro Player

  • @WuW0w0-m8m
    @WuW0w0-m8m 6 лет назад

    Yuri too op

  • @superbadass4540
    @superbadass4540 6 лет назад

    Play as Yuri make video with Yuri

  • @Yujifanik
    @Yujifanik 5 лет назад

    Why am I not surprised that a Pro player choose Iraq to fight Yuri???

  • @LiracyonLeague
    @LiracyonLeague 3 года назад

    Casting these when Yuri is so absurdly overpowered is a bit pointless. Lol

  • @broccoli4487
    @broccoli4487 6 лет назад +1

    This just shows how unbalanced Yuri is. The other nations can't get free cash when every gold is depleted but Yuri CAN.

  • @VahKing
    @VahKing 6 лет назад +1

    R.I.P The legend himself ZigZag 😪😧

  • @user-yl4is6qs7q
    @user-yl4is6qs7q 6 лет назад

    Im this play ?

  • @vladsid3453
    @vladsid3453 4 года назад

    not allowed to kill miners?

  • @TheWolferinDenver
    @TheWolferinDenver 4 года назад

    He says bro like he just learned to say it.

  • @wikwayer
    @wikwayer 6 лет назад

    yuri is op

  • @sam93931
    @sam93931 6 лет назад

    Yuri are indeed OP, that money buff is ridiculous

    • @sam93931
      @sam93931 6 лет назад

      good to see you as well mate, missed your vids =D

  • @Omnipotent-Q
    @Omnipotent-Q 5 лет назад

    I don’t remember multiplayer’s being this poor at the game back in the day...

  • @kindasimpson9704
    @kindasimpson9704 4 года назад

    I think Iraq lost because of monotonous playing style, all he does is iron curtain terror drone, he could have iron curtain the helis, definitely will destroy yuri’s super weapons.

  • @adonis22_75
    @adonis22_75 6 лет назад

    This game is still awesome till this day...but its NOT multiplayer mitirial.....the game was quit boring....mostly air and anti-air with some super weapons...

  • @omarhammad2843
    @omarhammad2843 3 года назад

    Iraq 🇮🇶 vectory

  • @kingpietro1279
    @kingpietro1279 2 года назад

    allways nuke war factory's

  • @astraldrifter
    @astraldrifter 6 лет назад +1

    i have always told people that Yuri is OP it sucks to play against.

  • @arctichowler8487
    @arctichowler8487 6 лет назад

    dumb back off over desolators.... gatling tank eats them before they can put any damage out, just concentrate fire...

    • @maury11196
      @maury11196 5 лет назад

      lol gatling tanks have paper armor
      they get caught in the radius of a desolator deploy and they all die in a few seconds , so you wasted money and multiple gatling tanks to take out a couple desolators
      bad trade

  • @GabrielHernandez-sz4ux
    @GabrielHernandez-sz4ux 6 лет назад +3

    Wait people still play this? Dude I’m coming back. I was rank 160 world wide in 1v1s when I was 13 lmao I always used Russia. Tesla wrecks.