You can always know who's telling the truth when their story never changes. R&M side has always stayed the same but Joe's story changes every time he tells it.
@@dridley318 first he said he showed accounting from a pro , we find out its excel , then he lied about the percentage that he owed them, then he lied about what he said to mal and rory separately
They arguing 2 different points. Mal saying Joe Cheaped him and Rory. Joe saying Mal aways leaning on someone and because he lived with Joe it isn't a big deal that he cheated him out of alittle money.
@@karon718 No, cause that happen to me before. People feel like if they looked you out when you needed them it's ok for them to do bad business with them. I don't agree. The best thing to do is end the friendship. We only hearing about it cause they need the content.
If anybody has a right to feel how he feels I think it is Mal. He defended Joe even when he knew Joe was wrong. He ain’t do nothing to Joe but try and be a friend
definitely. he went there during the height of the "beef" to settle things and understand the issue with him and Rory and Joe took it outside. I also understand Rory's apprehensiveness to speak much on this, he was disrespected WILDLY.
Respectfully I disagree when my friends are wrong I don’t defend them cuz that’s gonna encourage their bad behavior more with them knowing no one will hold them accountable nor will I join in on anyone attacking them. Mal sat back and watched Joe violate how many people and defended him after thinking “oh he won’t do it to me” then he did Mal said in the video fuck the corporations they steal from us the universe ain’t looking at corporations or people stealing is stealing karma came back at Mal for standing by Joe’s fuck shit. Furthermore Mal once again was thinking “he’s not gonna do it too me” all while acknowledging how much of a snake Joe is so question if you know someone is a snake why do business with them? Mal was cool with everyone else getting violated until it was his turn.
Not defending Joe’s actions in anyway shape or form if the accused are true but if I know someone is truly foul friend or not I’m not doing business with you or even wanna associate with you cuz now my name is getting tarnished and my judgement being questioned as to why I would consider myself a good person but defend “snakes”.
@@akeemMagic01 lol a guilty conscious will be present until it’s dealt with oneself. Ik from experience so I can see it on Mal. Cause why Mal n’ Rory ain’t get equity after 2 years of being their respectively. Investing in the future with the company. Id’s will prevail
“I’m not your boss, I’m your partner. I need you just as must as you need me” Respect Mal! I may not always agree with you on certain things, but you’re a man of integrity and that’s why we fuck with you.
If he was an actual partner, he would have put money into the pod. He would have invested. He also would ALREADY have access to accounting. He wouldn't be looking for a paycheck, he'd be looking for where his investment went.
@@NursePN09 this is such a corny way to look at shit. Mal was his friend before all the business shit if your friend thinks you snaking him out bread just show the books and keep it pushing so he know you not snaking him. Pulling the “you didn’t invest” card on your homie is bitch shit.
If he’s on salary and doesn’t receive a share in the profits or losses then he’s an employee not a partner. Treating someone with respect doesn’t make them a partner.
YOU DONT DESERVE DOGS!! Mutt culture is just sickening! How you people can place mutts over human beings is just a coping mechanism on how sick and depraved y’all are!! How can any human being have more compassion and empathy for a mutt than a human being is just mind boggling to me. There are kids. KIDS! Starving to death. TO DEATH!!!!! In Yemen, Ethiopia, SYRIA ETC EVEN WHITE KIDS, are being abused and Trafficked all over the Caucus, Europe and even US! Yet you’re here on about “you don’t deserve dogs”??? UGHHHHH WE DONT DESERVE CHILDREN WE DONT DESERVE MOTHERS WE DONT DESERVE FATHERS WE DONT DESERVE WATER. FOOD! F* A MUTT
With a 100 dollar bill with Mal's face imposed on it with the line "In Taxes We Trust". With the Episode # on one sleeve and a money bag emoji on the nape of the neck.
You can tell it's facts. Joe emotional and Mal doesn't even care about Joe nomore. This is what Joe does to people. Then to know him and Ish are having issues with the contract right now too...Joe should relax. It bothers Joe that Mal left and he never talked to him again. It's was principle and that shit Joe was saying in the rant. Except this time...Mal is far removed. It's funnies to them
When Rory says, "It was the greatest podcast of all time" he's not far off. Definitely music-based it's one of the best ever if not the best ever (at it's peak). A good one used to "Hi My Name is Mark" with Mark Hoppus. That was back in 2006 I believe... it was really good and then all of the sudden they stopped producing episodes. But it was a banger.
This the reality Joe fans got to face… as a former Joe fan myself did before…. With Joe, its never his fault… its always someone else’s. Someone has always done him wrong… or didn’t see the vision… or wasn’t talking about ownership.. or whatever…. From Marisa, to Rory and Mal, to Scottie Beam… to Charlamagne… all the way back to his Def Jam days… At what point do yall see that theres one person who is the through line in all this? At what point you realize that they way he handles people is fucked. Listen you can say things got flipped and the perception of what Rory and Mal were owed wasnt really what they thought. How do you then explain how Joe tried to go out of his way to try to embarrass Mal on that pod? Someone hes been friends with for over 10 yrs? After all this talk about loyalty and respect for years on that podcast… that sounds stand up to some of yall?
Agreed. I was a loyal JBP watcher, but completely stopped tuning in after that highly disrespectful spectacle of Joe doing Rory and Mal like he did. I can't lie, the dude has always shown that side, but we ignored it, but it just hit different and too close to home when he finally did that to these 2. Joe's entertaining, but I've always said he was entertaining because he's a train wreck. Joe's pretty humorous and he has a way with words and I STILL will give him his props as a rapper (he was super dope to me), but I can't rock with him as a person.
@@NursePN09 that’s the issue. They were treated as “employees” while Joe viewed himself as their “boss” … so they left and bossed up for real. It is what it is. Showed quite clearly that they weren’t mere hirelings. If Joe was a smart “boss” he would’ve kept them happy so he could’ve continued profiting from them and the show. But he was too interested in constantly leveraging his power.
Yeah I never heard Jeff Bezo, Elon, Jay z, Kanye etc etc say no shit like that 🤣🤣 nigga I'm yo boss foh if you don't want me to be yo boss GET YO OWN SHIT .. then you'll be a boss 😎
@@ottomarley74 because their enterprise is not a literal podcast with multiple cohosts … they are literal CEO’s etc. They function within a hierarchical structure, the issue is Joe views himself in the same light which shows he completely misunderstood himself and his show. Again, joes behavior led to them breaking up and him losing access to two individuals who can keep up their OWN show with 100+ episodes while progressing and producing good content that can function WITHOUT him. This shows they shouldn’t have been treated as expendable employees. But hey, it seems both sides are doing well so at the end of the day it is what it is
@@millardfilmore1403 the crazy thing is if you watch the JBP back then Joe on multiple episodes told them to start they own thing .... Like how Joe was trying to build the network.. them having they own shows or together (Mal and Rory)but still come together to do the JBP together (all three)
I don’t even know where to start. This was everything. This made my day. I’m going to watch this at least 13 times. And the ending… ohhh myyy gooossshhh! 😂🤣
Both sides been throwin shots....its really corny now. I like both pods & hope this is the end of it. I think it ends with this b/c I dont think Joe gonna respond to this response/request
Joe has publicly said that contracts are meant to be broken but won't show his "friends" the paperwork because he wanna abide by the confidentiality of his contract...something ain't right bout that scenario
Very honest and respectful response. As a business owner when this information came out I knew the accounting was funny. So many things you can "write off" as a business expense. Glad to see how you two landed. Much success
@@hegeliandianetik2009 partnership between 3 different entities, Not partners in a firm/company like them lawyers. That’s why they got different managers, teams and so on
@@j.e3336 example. Mal said he noticed how the crowds were much larger on tour dates, but his cut was the same. If they agreed to be profit partners and Mal did not agree to salary..and Joe doesn't want to open the books..something is wrong. If there is a 400k expense that they notice and there's no real explanation for it, it would seem like 400k is going into a couple of people's pockets and being labeled as some bullshit expense. Then they would see that and ask for detailed accounting and Joe would say no.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 They said profit partners. I think that is something different. People keep saying stuff like they thought they were in a 3 way split with Joe and they explained it very clearly that, that is NOT what they were or thought in their response video. I don't know why people keep saying that.
I respect how mal treats eddin & vice versa. Its jokes but hella respect across the board. Not surprised seeing how mal & rory treated the BTS guys on JBP (savon, erickson, alex, parks before he bandwagon)
@@hegeliandianetik2009 I stop watching JBP around the spotify deal because it became too political. I'd only watch when i saw certain clips to get the full story. But i def cut off when Rory & mal left. I just recently saw a vid of ish & joe arguing about contracts which sounded awfully familiar
@@hegeliandianetik2009 the fuck? Parks gaslight the shit of Joe when he was firing empty chairs on his own house, throwing shades when both Mal and Rory helped him and the rest of the crew with their own money so they could moving on, watch their first response they talk about it and watch the episodes that got leaked from patreon that Joe did, how are u going to let someone disrespect people u worked with tour with for years in your own house and say nothing, let Joe make a full of himself and just clapped like a clown?
@@daffdill5800 they know what they're doing, that's my point, they can get who they want but they know the topics that'll come up. Same thing math Hoffa
The way mal broke Joe down by not getting the solo artist attention and using the podcast to get that attention by pushing Rory and Mal to the side #tough
They were not partner. Joe saying he did cheat Mal. But he is also saying that he put Mal on and now Mal is making enough oney to have his own everything.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 if you listen to mal and Rory’s initial response, they were initially supposed to get the paperwork quarterly and never received it. They only kept going so long because the thought they were close
Joe's track record speaks for itself From Slaughter house to complex to the podcast . I watch now to see how his character will change and how dirty he does Ice and Ish. Parks silence says alot and he turning into a joe yes man lowkey
@@nia4842 man y'all really just be saying shit, Parks hasn't changed his approach, he's always been Joe's guy, wtf were people expecting him to do, stop fucking with Joe?
From a fan of Joe, from way back, heavy in Jerz, used to get all the mixtapes then followed the pod for years, after the split can't even mess with JB, his history, sooo many situations speak for the truth, not a coincidence he has all those issues in business, friends, family all leave you. I hope he works on himself, Rory and Mall keep up the great job and the positive energy. Bless up!
I was and still am a big music fan, but I stopped listening to him when all that happened, and honestly it makes me feel kind dumb. Because the domestic violence shit is all in there and was laid out by him and i ignored mad shit until I saw him so bad to another set of people.
I'm w/u. My bro put me on him back in the mixtape days. Supported ever since. When I realized he's just a person of such poor character I was as off that.
This was great. Joe looking bad. Sold his soul and betrayed his friends for the bag. Doesn't get much nastier. Now he can just slap around Ice and Ish like 2 flunkies. Greed is one heluva drug.
Bra, If he stole from you SUE AND LET IT COME OUT. If someone owes you money you sue them. You don’t just throw a bunch of accusations out in the public. You sue and fight your battle in court so you can get your money. All that other shit don’t matter. Anyone can say anything on a podcast. SAY IT UNDER OATH IN COURT.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 Because his real come up in money didn't come from rap. It came from something built along with a dude that he feels is a freeloader and it can't be erased. That podcast got to where it was with the three of them. And These two have kept going so he can't paint them as worthless, that way he could argue that he built his empire alone.
@@War22652 Bro get out the comments with this bs. The only reason Joe said anything about mal being worthless or that he didn't help build the pod. He just said he don't own shit or can't see shit.....yall niggas so corny lol. Yall sensationalize everything. Joe is the 1# investor of the pod financially and handled everything business wise. If Mal and Rory wanted more say they should've negotiated or said something in the beginning. Not sign a glorified employee contract than get mad when you can't see the books from the person that runs everything. On top of that yal arguing for niggas that aint even showed yall shit, they need to sue the man already.
@@j.e3336 bruh. Joe is not your friend. Calm down.. You are defending him with things that have nothing to do with the issue. They wanted to see the books. Joe said no. That shit is done. What they should have done doesn't matter. What their title was doesn't matter. And what say they had, has nothing to do with money owed. The issue now is they are saying still saying he stole. He is saying he didnt. Ok. Well show the books or shut up.
I love that Mal pointed out the Fake Boss energy. Joe really makes it a point that everybody knows he’s “in charge”. The corny “you’re fired” jokes; the way he reminds people that he “hired” them. Joe’s a super bird.
Nice comeback fellas! Not sure why Joe let a small sarcastic joke get him riled up. He's made a million of those kinds of jokes regarding Rory & Mal since they left and the fellas have kept it pushin. Now Mal has discovered Joe's sore spot and is digging in! HAHAHAHA
You’d be okay with people you used to work with spreading a narrative to the public of you being a thief if it wasn’t true? They been throwing slick shots for a while.
@@rewindmusic937 If it's OK for Joe to throw shots for the past year and a half and create a narrative that Rory and Mal are lazy and don't know how to conduct business, why can't they throw joke shots back? I'm a Joe Budden fan and subscriber and listen faithfully. He throws shots. "The old cast...blah blah." "The old crew...blah blah." It's fair game man. Finally, Mal has made it clear how this can be resolved. Show the books. That solves everything. None of us outside of these grown men know who is really telling the truth and who's not. There are lots of convincing liars in this world. One of these sides is lying.
@@AfanteMusic they both been throwing shots back n forth. Stop acting like 1 side is the victim. Mal & Rory received accounting. Why don’t they just show the “bad” accounting that Joe gave them already? He’s not allowed to show the Spotify deal because if you ain’t know, a lot of times big companies write in non disclosure agreements so it can’t be made public. Better yet, just audit him & get what y’all think y’all are owed in court instead of just playing with public perception. If you think someone stole so much from you, either go get it (audit him) or shut up about it. What’s the point of talking about it almost 2 years later if you not gonna take action?
@@allygunzz right idk what the fuck these niggaz talking bout employees get paid sometimes more than 3rd partners because they get what's after the cut
@@dredre373livedirect9 a G is a man that honour his friends, contracts and associates while looking them in the eye and telling them what his intentions are lol. You on your knees and choking on Joe that your senses are left your body. Mal is everything Joe would love to be.
@@FleeGunnaRiich You people that keep saying this really need to stop. Rory and Mal never...never...never said they were getting..or expected a 3 way split. They said...ON VIDEO..that they know what numbers Joe ran up and what he had going on before they got with him. Saying they were owed more is not the same as as saying they were owed the same amount as Joe. Again they said all this on video.
I can't wait for people to troll Joe with it pains him comments under the podcasts the rest of his career. Mal just created a moment with that phrase. I was crying laughing. And I know it pains him 🤣🤣🤣
I listen to both pods. But this is getting annoying, acting like Joe the only one saying things and then still talking about. Man sue the nigga already lol
The awkwardness in the room on the JBP the other day when joe spoke about cutting the show down to 1-2 days a week but how to adjust the money was hilarious lol
9:00 mark is what Joe is referring to. Mal really thinks that he did more of contribution than he did. He came in and was a Great contributor but his energy died off in a little over a year. Then he was constantly late and then started acting like he didn’t want to be there. So Joe looks at things like He and others (Rory) put in alot more work than Mal did. Which is true. That’s why he said everyone else could say he robbed them except him.
If I’m a profit partner, it doesn’t matter if I’m lazy. The percentage is the percentage. So if Mail wasn’t paid his contractual percentage then he can say he was stolen from.
You can always know who's telling the truth when their story never changes. R&M side has always stayed the same but Joe's story changes every time he tells it.
What changed about Joe’s ?
@@dridley318 first he said he showed accounting from a pro , we find out its excel , then he lied about the percentage that he owed them, then he lied about what he said to mal and rory separately
They arguing 2 different points. Mal saying Joe Cheaped him and Rory. Joe saying Mal aways leaning on someone and because he lived with Joe it isn't a big deal that he cheated him out of alittle money.
@@shantaalli2865 thinking it's ok to steal from someone just cuz they lived with you before is crazy lol
@@karon718 No, cause that happen to me before. People feel like if they looked you out when you needed them it's ok for them to do bad business with them. I don't agree. The best thing to do is end the friendship. We only hearing about it cause they need the content.
If anybody has a right to feel how he feels I think it is Mal. He defended Joe even when he knew Joe was wrong. He ain’t do nothing to Joe but try and be a friend
definitely. he went there during the height of the "beef" to settle things and understand the issue with him and Rory and Joe took it outside. I also understand Rory's apprehensiveness to speak much on this, he was disrespected WILDLY.
That's true ..and I actually listen to both .......... The new rory and mal has been a good listen to me lately
@@ThePrecprec mhm
Respectfully I disagree when my friends are wrong I don’t defend them cuz that’s gonna encourage their bad behavior more with them knowing no one will hold them accountable nor will I join in on anyone attacking them. Mal sat back and watched Joe violate how many people and defended him after thinking “oh he won’t do it to me” then he did Mal said in the video fuck the corporations they steal from us the universe ain’t looking at corporations or people stealing is stealing karma came back at Mal for standing by Joe’s fuck shit. Furthermore Mal once again was thinking “he’s not gonna do it too me” all while acknowledging how much of a snake Joe is so question if you know someone is a snake why do business with them? Mal was cool with everyone else getting violated until it was his turn.
Not defending Joe’s actions in anyway shape or form if the accused are true but if I know someone is truly foul friend or not I’m not doing business with you or even wanna associate with you cuz now my name is getting tarnished and my judgement being questioned as to why I would consider myself a good person but defend “snakes”.
Love the fact that Joe said Mal can’t call him a thief, and Mal proceeds to call him a thief emphatically about 10x lmao.
He was like rory hold my beer lmao
The fact they never sued says everything. 🤷🏾♂️
@@akeemMagic01 thank u, 2 years later n’ u haven’t sued yet smells like bullshit
@@easyyeye Especially when the resources are there.
@@akeemMagic01 lol a guilty conscious will be present until it’s dealt with oneself. Ik from experience so I can see it on Mal. Cause why Mal n’ Rory ain’t get equity after 2 years of being their respectively. Investing in the future with the company. Id’s will prevail
"the most money he ever made was sitting next to me" is wild 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Super cornball
Bruh he would not have this deal without Joe. Idk why he don’t see that. Corny mf
It might be wild but it's also a lie lmao
Show me the lie though
Facts
"It pains him, it hurts..." is a crazy punchline lol.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Mal bucks
It pains him!!! Definitely using that shit
Mal been tight since Joe said he hid the detergent in his room 🤣🤣🤣
That’s really what it’s about lol 😂
😂😂😂😂
😭😭😭
I would be livid too 😂😂😂
Real shit....he did tho lol
“It’s paaainssss him” 😭😭😂😂😂🤣🤣 Mal is hilarious
That segment was hilarious 😂😂😂😂😂
😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
That wasn’t even funny
@@bricesonloving2702 okay if it wasn’t funny to you then keep it moving lmbooo.
@@CJacksonMark bruh up there said it wasn’t funny and it paaaiins him haha
No matter how much they disagree, they all agree on one thing. *They love Hov* lol.
Lmfaoooo facts are facts
LMFAOOOOOOO
,😹😹😹😹
Hovengers
Hahaha😅🤣
Goddamn Jamal now we gonna have to deal with Joe yelling at us 😭😂😂
😂😂
Yall dont HAVE to 🤣 i know i don't
On god 😂😂😂😂😂
@@NotoriousSSV On GOD in heaven.
Real shit, Joe finna throw on that Amiri cap and wife beater combo and lose his fuckin mind next episode 😭😭
Mal saying the pod got him around people that would never give him a feature was a HAYMAKER
Ain’t no lies told
That was the most dumbest thing I heard today. He's delusional.
Yet all them folks be telling Joe to get back in the game at least 1 more time smh
Joe gonna hear “ It PAINSSSS HIM” in his nightmares. 😂😂😂
“I’m not your boss, I’m your partner. I need you just as must as you need me”
Respect Mal! I may not always agree with you on certain things, but you’re a man of integrity and that’s why we fuck with you.
That’s cap
He worked the Podcast no matter how he tries to slice. Call him an independent contractor whatever title makes him feel better that's on him
If he was an actual partner, he would have put money into the pod. He would have invested. He also would ALREADY have access to accounting. He wouldn't be looking for a paycheck, he'd be looking for where his investment went.
@@NursePN09 this is such a corny way to look at shit. Mal was his friend before all the business shit if your friend thinks you snaking him out bread just show the books and keep it pushing so he know you not snaking him. Pulling the “you didn’t invest” card on your homie is bitch shit.
If he’s on salary and doesn’t receive a share in the profits or losses then he’s an employee not a partner. Treating someone with respect doesn’t make them a partner.
Mal paid for those amiri hats and IT PAINS HIM 😂
LOL 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Sounds like Mal is hurt
@@nickmacias2024 telling your side of the story doesn’t mean you’re butthurt. Oh you said hurt oh well I’m too lazy to delete the first part lol
Y'all see how the dog can tell Mal is upset, so he's trying to calm him down by licking his hand? We don't deserve dogs man..lol
LMAOOO facts
YOU DONT DESERVE DOGS!!
Mutt culture is just sickening!
How you people can place mutts over human beings is just a coping mechanism on how sick and depraved y’all are!!
How can any human being have more compassion and empathy for a mutt than a human being is just mind boggling to me.
There are kids. KIDS! Starving to death. TO DEATH!!!!! In Yemen, Ethiopia, SYRIA ETC
EVEN WHITE KIDS, are being abused and Trafficked all over the Caucus, Europe and even US! Yet you’re here on about “you don’t deserve dogs”??? UGHHHHH
WE DONT DESERVE CHILDREN
WE DONT DESERVE MOTHERS
WE DONT DESERVE FATHERS
WE DONT DESERVE WATER. FOOD!
F* A MUTT
@@shehushehu5426 ain't nobody reading all this shit have a Snickers
Definitely peeped that
Baisley 🐶
“Dudes that never had” is a great description for “boss” energy.
He said I'm not gonna talk crazy " you're a thiefff, lol. I love the rant. 😆
Mal got in his bag on this one
While joe spends his money lmao
Gotta put “It pains him” on a shirt👕 😂
I think it’d look better on a shirt because it’s getting too cold for shorts
@@Shallowwam typo🤣I meant shirt
"It PaIn$ THEM"
@@FameBoi1000 yea with the dollar sign 🔥
With a 100 dollar bill with Mal's face imposed on it with the line "In Taxes We Trust". With the Episode # on one sleeve and a money bag emoji on the nape of the neck.
we need shirts with Mal face in a $100 Bill 🤣 🤣 🤣
For sure 😂
Meeeee ahahha
That should be the art for this episode
there has to be a money bag incorporated with this somewhere on the shirt
That’s crazy
The dog felt Mal was upset and came to calme him down! how nice that is
Dat dog cant get enough of that Cocoa Butter cream Body lotion Mal be using 😂😂😂
Neither can I ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Mal coming back to his mud-ready Yeezy boots multiple times has me dying 😂
Mud ready lmao
That’s great marketing
Joe throwing Mal Bucks at the strip club is crazy 😂
Meanwhile I'm over here with my Rory Wad of ones
🤣🤣
Lmaoooo insanity
Yo that's nuts!!!! Lmao
Why is this still a conversation?????
Joe Never expected a response like this, from Mal ….. It Painzzzzz him 😂😂😂
That pocket had me praise dancing lol
You can tell it's facts. Joe emotional and Mal doesn't even care about Joe nomore.
This is what Joe does to people.
Then to know him and Ish are having issues with the contract right now too...Joe should relax.
It bothers Joe that Mal left and he never talked to him again. It's was principle and that shit Joe was saying in the rant.
Except this time...Mal is far removed. It's funnies to them
i'm ready for the face to face. joe can't keep up w/ the truth
@@ToDaMaxxx What's the situation with Ish and Joe and a contract?
@@ToDaMaxxx Ish and Joe having contract issues is hilarious because once again Joe is dealing with a financial situation.
It always goes back to Joe
I was on the edge of my seat waiting for Mal to say his Karma is beautiful.
I know mal got his pistachio/teal sweater hung up like a jersey
Pause
And that no one is gonna defimate his character lol
@@icantbeafraidofyou 😂 i love when he said that
Baisley licking Mal’s hand while he going off is hilarious 😭
Now Joe gone see this and yell like he always do lol
he gonna turn red and start sweating 😭😭😭
He fasho gone yell “Enough‼️” at least twice
@@Duke15k 😭😭😭
With some gunshots that way too loud for any headphone or speaker lol
Doubt it. He’s not turning up for this. And that’s even if he acknowledges it.
I respect this. Just show them the paper work Joe. Simple.
How you accuse someone of stealing and want them to prove it for you?
Asking a man to put his taxes online to win an internet argument is hilariously silly
@@hegeliandianetik2009 He shouldn't put it on the net. He should show them the ACCOUNTING. It's very simple.
@@j.e3336 Joe has a beef with being called a thief. So prove you are not one. Why is this complicated to yall?
@@DivineS0ul that’s not simple lol. If you accuse me of stealing you’re the one that has to prove it
Joe doesn't have PayPal he uses PayMal.
MalPay you mean lol
Thank you 😂😂😂
Chill lmao
VenMal lmao
@@shivasamadhi venmal 😭🤣🤣
MAL! Come with this energy on regular episodes and I’m tuning in every drop. This was GOLD 😂
That’s the issue , y’all niggas only want spicy shit . He always got this energy, he’s literally just talking like he always does .
“Every time he pays for 🐈 thts some of my money” 😂😭
IT PAINS HIM. Is my new saying 😭😭😭
"you knew me before records, you never disrespected me, now that I'm successful, you pull this shit !" - HOV
Hov got a bar for everything 😂
What song is that?
@@dougroyce5784 heart of the city
“Man’s raps hov lyrics with his whole heart and soul” 🦉IFYKYK
When Rory says, "It was the greatest podcast of all time" he's not far off. Definitely music-based it's one of the best ever if not the best ever (at it's peak). A good one used to "Hi My Name is Mark" with Mark Hoppus. That was back in 2006 I believe... it was really good and then all of the sudden they stopped producing episodes. But it was a banger.
Honestly
JBP in the 220-250 episodes is some of the greatest entertainment in history.
So why didn't they just re- negotiate their deal and sort out the work conditions. Once you think someone has stolen from you it is a done deal.
The dog is my favorite part of this video
This the reality Joe fans got to face… as a former Joe fan myself did before….
With Joe, its never his fault… its always someone else’s. Someone has always done him wrong… or didn’t see the vision… or wasn’t talking about ownership.. or whatever….
From Marisa, to Rory and Mal, to Scottie Beam… to Charlamagne… all the way back to his Def Jam days…
At what point do yall see that theres one person who is the through line in all this? At what point you realize that they way he handles people is fucked.
Listen you can say things got flipped and the perception of what Rory and Mal were owed wasnt really what they thought. How do you then explain how Joe tried to go out of his way to try to embarrass Mal on that pod? Someone hes been friends with for over 10 yrs? After all this talk about loyalty and respect for years on that podcast… that sounds stand up to some of yall?
... and let's not forget, he will admit the truth but talk around it then act like he never said shyt.
@@TC_The_Art_Of_Crafting_N_Shyt and slaughterhouse
He admitted he was narcissistic right in front of them one episode and they didn’t catch it. 🤦🏾♂️
Agreed. I was a loyal JBP watcher, but completely stopped tuning in after that highly disrespectful spectacle of Joe doing Rory and Mal like he did. I can't lie, the dude has always shown that side, but we ignored it, but it just hit different and too close to home when he finally did that to these 2. Joe's entertaining, but I've always said he was entertaining because he's a train wreck. Joe's pretty humorous and he has a way with words and I STILL will give him his props as a rapper (he was super dope to me), but I can't rock with him as a person.
ain't tryna explain nothing, I'm just here for the entertainment 😂😂. it's not that serious
7:52 Even Baisley know mal going off 😂😂😂
Getting your hand lick on by a pooch and calling someone a thief is wild lol😂😂
What's funny? You're reaching
It reminded me of the villain from Inspector Gadget. 😆
That last little shot rory got in about taking down a video 2 hours after posting was perfect.
“All that balenciaga he wearing.. I’m paying for it” lmao Mal got in his Rocafella shit talking bag “it pains him” 😭😂😭😂
“It my face on them singles” is hilarious 😂
What Mal said about the “boss” thing was STRAIGHT facts
Then he wouldn't be looking for a paycheck or getting paid from RUclips. He'd already have access. They were employees. Period.
@@NursePN09 that’s the issue. They were treated as “employees” while Joe viewed himself as their “boss” … so they left and bossed up for real. It is what it is. Showed quite clearly that they weren’t mere hirelings. If Joe was a smart “boss” he would’ve kept them happy so he could’ve continued profiting from them and the show. But he was too interested in constantly leveraging his power.
Yeah I never heard Jeff Bezo, Elon, Jay z, Kanye etc etc say no shit like that 🤣🤣 nigga I'm yo boss foh if you don't want me to be yo boss GET YO OWN SHIT .. then you'll be a boss 😎
@@ottomarley74 because their enterprise is not a literal podcast with multiple cohosts … they are literal CEO’s etc. They function within a hierarchical structure, the issue is Joe views himself in the same light which shows he completely misunderstood himself and his show. Again, joes behavior led to them breaking up and him losing access to two individuals who can keep up their OWN show with 100+ episodes while progressing and producing good content that can function WITHOUT him. This shows they shouldn’t have been treated as expendable employees. But hey, it seems both sides are doing well so at the end of the day it is what it is
@@millardfilmore1403 the crazy thing is if you watch the JBP back then Joe on multiple episodes told them to start they own thing .... Like how Joe was trying to build the network.. them having they own shows or together (Mal and Rory)but still come together to do the JBP together (all three)
Sliding in a plug for their tour knowing the JBP tour got cancelled 😂 clever
I mean, them boys selling out their tour and having fun 😂 no bitterness
Thriving
Pod Gods! 💰🍊
Why did it get cancelled
@@aussiekilo lack of ticket sales....IT PAINZZZ HIM
I don’t even know where to start. This was everything. This made my day. I’m going to watch this at least 13 times. And the ending… ohhh myyy gooossshhh! 😂🤣
“It hurts him and I can understand it because I know him”. Mal treated this like a shooting drill
"it pains em" gotta be my new line 😂
Now watch AK come to Joes support per usual because his beef with Rory
i'm the prize!
Rory got ammo. Ak a woman beater
AK needs to worry about his other beefs.
Joe been dissing Mal lowkey all year yall in here cappin
Exactly....a bunch of snide remarks
Exactly
Both sides been throwin shots....its really corny now. I like both pods & hope this is the end of it. I think it ends with this b/c I dont think Joe gonna respond to this response/request
All year? Yeah definitely not, But more than he should have for sure.
Exactly remember the “say something nigga!!!!!“ followed by gunshots
I love how Mal said I would never;then proceeded to.😂😂
Joe has publicly said that contracts are meant to be broken but won't show his "friends" the paperwork because he wanna abide by the confidentiality of his contract...something ain't right bout that scenario
Very honest and respectful response. As a business owner when this information came out I knew the accounting was funny. So many things you can "write off" as a business expense. Glad to see how you two landed. Much success
what information came out? Rory and Mal havent given any information out other than accusations. If he stole why don't they sue?
@@j.e3336 if they really were partners Mal and Rory would have the paperwork they want Joe to show
@@hegeliandianetik2009 partnership between 3 different entities, Not partners in a firm/company like them lawyers.
That’s why they got different managers, teams and so on
@@j.e3336 example. Mal said he noticed how the crowds were much larger on tour dates, but his cut was the same. If they agreed to be profit partners and Mal did not agree to salary..and Joe doesn't want to open the books..something is wrong. If there is a 400k expense that they notice and there's no real explanation for it, it would seem like 400k is going into a couple of people's pockets and being labeled as some bullshit expense. Then they would see that and ask for detailed accounting and Joe would say no.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 They said profit partners. I think that is something different. People keep saying stuff like they thought they were in a 3 way split with Joe and they explained it very clearly that, that is NOT what they were or thought in their response video. I don't know why people keep saying that.
I respect how mal treats eddin & vice versa. Its jokes but hella respect across the board. Not surprised seeing how mal & rory treated the BTS guys on JBP (savon, erickson, alex, parks before he bandwagon)
Parks ain't done nothing different since Mal and Rory were there.
@@hegeliandianetik2009
I stop watching JBP around the spotify deal because it became too political. I'd only watch when i saw certain clips to get the full story. But i def cut off when Rory & mal left. I just recently saw a vid of ish & joe arguing about contracts which sounded awfully familiar
@@hegeliandianetik2009 you’re right. He’s always been a ass kisser to Joe lmao
@@YISHYAWO exactly because joe is a child
@@hegeliandianetik2009 the fuck? Parks gaslight the shit of Joe when he was firing empty chairs on his own house, throwing shades when both Mal and Rory helped him and the rest of the crew with their own money so they could moving on, watch their first response they talk about it and watch the episodes that got leaked from patreon that Joe did, how are u going to let someone disrespect people u worked with tour with for years in your own house and say nothing, let Joe make a full of himself and just clapped like a clown?
Look at Rory's therapy dog tryna calm Mal down
Not therapy dog😭
Young Baissssss
lmao, fake ass therapy dog.
Emotional support Baisley
Rory: Julian don’t post this and then delete it 2 hours later, leave it up😂😭😂😂😂😂😂
I’m fucccing crying I love when they be in their petty bag bro
Joe still mad when Mal laughed at Hov saying… “So What!” Lol
This is a serious moment but I did not expect that pan to Rory to have him with his foot on his knee 😂🧡
lmao im weak 😂
😂😂
I don’t get why that’s a big deal
@@bricesonloving2702 simple. It brought me joy
@@bricesonloving2702 Guess I'm getting old cause I sit like that all the time
Mal said he “wasn’t gonna go back and forth” and immediately started SHOOTING 🤣🤣🤣
Nigga said ima empty the clip and dead this shit right here
I mean when someone keep throwing shade how much can anyone take? rather it's you me or anyone for that matter that's just part of life.
@@god9etherbeing681 they're the ones throwing shade lol look at the guests they bring on too. Logic??? Lol
@@ThuhGGGeenius ???? They're podding, should they get Joe's approval for every guest they bring on? Come one people this is not kindergarden
@@daffdill5800 they know what they're doing, that's my point, they can get who they want but they know the topics that'll come up. Same thing math Hoffa
I knew Joe was Cappin when he said Mal never had anything and he just be standing around 😂😂😂😂😂that shit had me crying
Rory definitely meant shoot the fade. Mal didn't catch it 😂 2:58
The way mal broke Joe down by not getting the solo artist attention and using the podcast to get that attention by pushing Rory and Mal to the side #tough
😂😂😂Mal kept it real. Joe talks a good game but we know he’s not gone expose himself and show any paperwork.
if Mal really was his business partner he would have access to the paperwork
They were not partner. Joe saying he did cheat Mal. But he is also saying that he put Mal on and now Mal is making enough oney to have his own everything.
@@hegeliandianetik2009 if you listen to mal and Rory’s initial response, they were initially supposed to get the paperwork quarterly and never received it.
They only kept going so long because the thought they were close
@@hegeliandianetik2009 this is a dumb ass respsonse, this is the reason they have issues now
@@shantaalli2865 Just show the paperwork.
Joe's track record speaks for itself
From Slaughter house to complex to the podcast . I watch now to see how his character will change and how dirty he does Ice and Ish. Parks silence says alot and he turning into a joe yes man lowkey
Parks is Always been a yes man. Spineless
Lowkey ? It was highkey for everone last year
Parks is also highkey keeping his job 💀
@@tekkenespie Now that his place isn't leverage, he stays bent down.
@@nia4842 man y'all really just be saying shit, Parks hasn't changed his approach, he's always been Joe's guy, wtf were people expecting him to do, stop fucking with Joe?
From a fan of Joe, from way back, heavy in Jerz, used to get all the mixtapes then followed the pod for years, after the split can't even mess with JB, his history, sooo many situations speak for the truth, not a coincidence he has all those issues in business, friends, family all leave you. I hope he works on himself, Rory and Mall keep up the great job and the positive energy. Bless up!
I was and still am a big music fan, but I stopped listening to him when all that happened, and honestly it makes me feel kind dumb. Because the domestic violence shit is all in there and was laid out by him and i ignored mad shit until I saw him so bad to another set of people.
same
I'm w/u. My bro put me on him back in the mixtape days. Supported ever since. When I realized he's just a person of such poor character I was as off that.
I’m with you guys too! I’ll probably still listen to music if he drops any but as far as him as a person I’m good
Same
Something about Baisley licking Mals hand while he's calling Joe a thief is hilarious
Not “I paid for it” 😂 Mal you ain’t have to go there I’m 💀
“but all good jokes contain true shit”
It’s cute because Baisley absolutely loves Mal!!!
Uncle Mal 😂
That’s how you know they really kick it frfr
Just want some affection 😢
Thats a got da@n pillow 🙄
@@deedee-ew6so wrong! You obviously didn’t watch the entire clip
This was great. Joe looking bad. Sold his soul and betrayed his friends for the bag. Doesn't get much nastier. Now he can just slap around Ice and Ish like 2 flunkies. Greed is one heluva drug.
😂
Regret looks funny, Mals skin stress-free apparently.
Too bad ish and ice actually voice they opinion instead of agreeing like these bozos do and this pod mad boring the views show that
@@spaceghost4161 you still subscribed tho sooo?
@@angelusgnz5784 how does his subscription change his point?
The "It Pains Him" shirt has to be on the way
i love how mal is being straight up and no subliminal
Bra, If he stole from you SUE AND LET IT COME OUT. If someone owes you money you sue them. You don’t just throw a bunch of accusations out in the public. You sue and fight your battle in court so you can get your money. All that other shit don’t matter. Anyone can say anything on a podcast. SAY IT UNDER OATH IN COURT.
No post and delete....I see people can stand on their square. Some people rant and delete.
“Every time he pay for pushy that’s some of my money” whether Joe admit it or not that shit stung
Why would it sting if it's not Mal's money?
@@hegeliandianetik2009 because he’s paying women to have sex with…
@@hegeliandianetik2009 Because his real come up in money didn't come from rap. It came from something built along with a dude that he feels is a freeloader and it can't be erased. That podcast got to where it was with the three of them. And These two have kept going so he can't paint them as worthless, that way he could argue that he built his empire alone.
@@War22652 Bro get out the comments with this bs. The only reason Joe said anything about mal being worthless or that he didn't help build the pod. He just said he don't own shit or can't see shit.....yall niggas so corny lol. Yall sensationalize everything. Joe is the 1# investor of the pod financially and handled everything business wise. If Mal and Rory wanted more say they should've negotiated or said something in the beginning. Not sign a glorified employee contract than get mad when you can't see the books from the person that runs everything. On top of that yal arguing for niggas that aint even showed yall shit, they need to sue the man already.
@@j.e3336 bruh. Joe is not your friend. Calm down.. You are defending him with things that have nothing to do with the issue. They wanted to see the books. Joe said no. That shit is done. What they should have done doesn't matter. What their title was doesn't matter. And what say they had, has nothing to do with money owed. The issue now is they are saying still saying he stole. He is saying he didnt. Ok. Well show the books or shut up.
I love that Mal pointed out the Fake Boss energy. Joe really makes it a point that everybody knows he’s “in charge”. The corny “you’re fired” jokes; the way he reminds people that he “hired” them. Joe’s a super bird.
We need “it pains him” t-shirts asap 😂
I had to watch the video to realize Rory sent a sniper shot at the end, that cut was beautiful 🤌🏾
Came for this comment. Clean ass edit
"it pains him" 🤣🤣🤣
pup agrees with Mal, licking his money hands
Licking money hands" is sick. 😆
9:07 killed me man 🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Rory was trying to calm Mal down… uh uh let that man go off.
Nice comeback fellas! Not sure why Joe let a small sarcastic joke get him riled up. He's made a million of those kinds of jokes regarding Rory & Mal since they left and the fellas have kept it pushin. Now Mal has discovered Joe's sore spot and is digging in! HAHAHAHA
It got him riled up because he’s guilty. Joe knows he ain’t right.
When did Joe say this?
You’d be okay with people you used to work with spreading a narrative to the public of you being a thief if it wasn’t true? They been throwing slick shots for a while.
@@rewindmusic937 If it's OK for Joe to throw shots for the past year and a half and create a narrative that Rory and Mal are lazy and don't know how to conduct business, why can't they throw joke shots back? I'm a Joe Budden fan and subscriber and listen faithfully. He throws shots. "The old cast...blah blah." "The old crew...blah blah." It's fair game man. Finally, Mal has made it clear how this can be resolved. Show the books. That solves everything. None of us outside of these grown men know who is really telling the truth and who's not. There are lots of convincing liars in this world. One of these sides is lying.
@@AfanteMusic they both been throwing shots back n forth. Stop acting like 1 side is the victim.
Mal & Rory received accounting. Why don’t they just show the “bad” accounting that Joe gave them already? He’s not allowed to show the Spotify deal because if you ain’t know, a lot of times big companies write in non disclosure agreements so it can’t be made public.
Better yet, just audit him & get what y’all think y’all are owed in court instead of just playing with public perception. If you think someone stole so much from you, either go get it (audit him) or shut up about it. What’s the point of talking about it almost 2 years later if you not gonna take action?
Didn’t a particular someone from the breakfast club warn them about Joe???
Them not getting payded from youtube is fucckkkinng crazy!!!!!!!
its joes RUclips and show and they were employees
@@CuseBlocksForLife if they employees that’s even worse.. you pay your employees
@@allygunzz right idk what the fuck these niggaz talking bout employees get paid sometimes more than 3rd partners because they get what's after the cut
@@allygunzz he did.... as employees you dont get to see the books
@@CuseBlocksForLife did joe start the podcast by himself ? Like was he ever just sitting there alone podding!?
We have a disgruntled independent contractor crying.
Rory saying it was a lighthearted jab!😂🤣😂🤣 none of these hearts is light
Joe really a walking L. He’s always in his own way and refuses to take accountability for it.
Mal is a G
His not a G, he needs you as you need him kid.
Elite ones
It’s the Roc! Holla!!!
If he’s a “G” I’d hate to see what you think a busta is.
@@dredre373livedirect9 a G is a man that honour his friends, contracts and associates while looking them in the eye and telling them what his intentions are lol. You on your knees and choking on Joe that your senses are left your body. Mal is everything Joe would love to be.
I believe Rory and Mal, but I also believe In Joe’s mind he doesn’t think he stole a dime
They weren't partners in the paperwork, it's his money.
Omission of truth . That’s the hill Joe may just die on
Never underestimate the other man's greed. he knew..
@@p_vic_7 he’s right though. Joe was the boss it was his network. Why would he pay them the same as himself? He was paying for everything!
@@FleeGunnaRiich You people that keep saying this really need to stop. Rory and Mal never...never...never said they were getting..or expected a 3 way split. They said...ON VIDEO..that they know what numbers Joe ran up and what he had going on before they got with him. Saying they were owed more is not the same as as saying they were owed the same amount as Joe. Again they said all this on video.
For once I agree with Joe at this point. You guys have been Talking about accounting for two years… Take him to court! He’s telling you to do it!
I can't wait for people to troll Joe with it pains him comments under the podcasts the rest of his career. Mal just created a moment with that phrase. I was crying laughing.
And I know it pains him 🤣🤣🤣
Ya'll Joevengers in here heavy, way to get in ahead of the rush guys
we here ... but i fucks with both at times
I mess with both sides this whole shit is a mess 🤦🏽♂️I do Believe A Mal tho
I listen to both pods. But this is getting annoying, acting like Joe the only one saying things and then still talking about. Man sue the nigga already lol
Joevengers is nasty work
Let’s be honest. Most ppl here either listen to both podcasts! We just tired of hearing this same issue. Both need to stfu
The awkwardness in the room on the JBP the other day when joe spoke about cutting the show down to 1-2 days a week but how to adjust the money was hilarious lol
ICE thinking ahead by getting his twitch stream going incase Joe turns on em cuz he aint gonna wanna go back to a shoe store
I felt that
😂😂😂😂payment must be per episodes 😂😂😂😂😂Joe lifestyle must be really expensive and having to pay dudes not good
He spending too much on those call girls 😂
@@patrickcee8624 dude got a drip club addiction
Hov wants to see the accounting.
Who called Mal after the slick 'its not your business '?
@@EarthTraveler3087 explain please 🙏🏾
"All that Balenciaga he's wearing I paid for it🤣 it pains him😂😂😂😂"
Rory with the last little jab at the end lmaooo
Can't beat transparency!!!
Ngl when Joe said "first of the month never really meant anything to you" or whatever he said was wild LMFAOOO
Mal rant sounded so much like a Joe rant in tone lmao he really was in a deep dark bag here
Joe is proud deep down
9:00 mark is what Joe is referring to. Mal really thinks that he did more of contribution than he did. He came in and was a Great contributor but his energy died off in a little over a year. Then he was constantly late and then started acting like he didn’t want to be there. So Joe looks at things like He and others (Rory) put in alot more work than Mal did. Which is true. That’s why he said everyone else could say he robbed them except him.
“Even though I cheated you, you can’t claim it because in my eyes you ain’t put in no work” is insane logic.
@@saxking101 yeah he buggin
If I’m a profit partner, it doesn’t matter if I’m lazy. The percentage is the percentage. So if Mail wasn’t paid his contractual percentage then he can say he was stolen from.
Joe next pod: 🤬💨
Ice: 😔
Parks: 😣
Ish: 🙄
Shoutout Mal for standing his ground, using his platform for good and making money doing so.
Exactly lol the Hoevengers will have an excuse for it though 🤣
Youngboys in the back: 🗣
It pains himmmmmm
He made his platform off joe name 😂
@@Fatta007 Joe fathered these niggas. A PodFather if you will🤲🏾