JOE BUDDEN SAYS THE "CLOCK WAS TICKING" ON RORY & MAL... BREAKSDOWN THE FALLOUTS ON HIS NETWORK
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Joe is good at saying nothing and having people think he’s playing 3D chess.
Lmaoo
Laughs…
Politicians are excellent at that,but most of us see through the BS
Exactly...he says a whole lot but says nothing. He's the type to talk in circles and if you're not careful you'll fall for his BS. I bet no one in the shop truly understands what he was saying...niggas it just nodding their heads agreement. Dude is exhausting
Super facts
Joe is like those old guys that pretend like they're having a conversation with you but they actually just want an audience while they talk to themselves
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100% facts. He’s brutal. He also does the knee jerk “no” in response to anything someone else says. He’s a contrarian. But then, he will reiterate exactly what the other person said as if it’s different. It’s a really annoying character trait or flaw.
This was great
Joe is a master of sounding like he's saying something deep and profound but really saying nothing at all. Thats a real skill I wish I had.
nah, he just forces you to infer what's being implicitly said.
You have to be a text book narcissist…it’s in their make up
And I don’t say that from a place of I don’t like Joe…but that’s something I don’t like about him
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Hell you just did it with your comment
Joe just gotta realize it’s okay to be “wrong”sometimes. Being wrong won’t kill you, if your open minded it’ll help you truly grow and learn. So in the future you’ll get it “right”.
Clearly it's alot of closed minded people because the stoopid shyt that happens on a daily is mind boggling
I don’t think that happens for people after 40. But I pray he figures it out.
He admits wrongdoing fairly often. The problem with that is people just believe the other side without knowing what’s really going on. You’re allowed to not believe someone, you aren’t allowed to say they didn’t take actual accountability without knowing.
Talkin bout that argument he had at complex😂
Joe avoids accountability at all cost
Love joe but he needs to stop talking about this if he gonna keep digging a another hole. He hurting his brand. Tell truth let it die. They said accounting wasn't right. Stop my guy. Nasty😂
Lol he's like a woman when they don't want to admit they're wrong lol
Why? It’s his show and they brought nothing to the table
He's Aquarius ♒ so him doing that is warranted. If you know you know
@@TheSub-SaharanAmericanLegend I take offense to that as an ♒️ 😂😂 sike naw, I’m unfazed 😂😂😂
Joe became the machine he raged against
Bars
That's a BAR
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Well he told y'all
"New Joe Budden!"
When the oppressed become the oppressor
Who watches Joe expecting to learn anything? The man is The Riddler. 😂
I’m dien 😂 😂
lulz
facts
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Joe is the king of bending the narrative 🤦♂️
They weren't on salary, they were percentage based...that's the difference. Joe is being funny with the money
Mr innocent has never done anything wrong in his life
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Lmaooo for real.
Poor baby sad that they broke up. Do u know the situation. Y’all don’t know these people
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Basically Joe said he wanted to pay them less and was waiting for the time to run out on the contract
And that he was paying them from "net". Meaning that he was moving funds around to other podcasts and projects, like Rory and Mal said.
@@Wizznilliam why is that a problem tho
@@justxliff
Because if their contract says that they are paid a percentage of the profits of the JBP it affects their pay. If they never agreed to risk their part of the profits on other failed podcasts then he is taking money from them without their permission. From them they say they never agreed to starting a podcast network. If that's something that he wanted to do then he could have either waited until they were off contract or used his portion of the money plus the other money he had coming in. Not money out of the group pot.
People hear and see what they want, Joe practices bad business and has a history of it, like you said he could have paid those guys there earned worth and then after came to them offered the plan if they didn't want to do it cool move on, but instead he chose to snake them and then spin a narrative on them, good for them for standing up and speaking the truth it's always hard at first but then you realize you don't need people like that in your life
@@Wizznilliam everyone does that, especially Diddy and Jay. It just no one has the balls to come them out on it for the world to see. You’re not getting Jay on a Pod. You’re not getting diddy on a Pod and ask him how he’s splitting up the proceeds
The saddest thing of all was seeing friendships destroyed. Particularly Mal & Joe who were friends for close to 10 years and LIVED together at one point.
I don’t think Mal was ever truly his friend.
It is sad but thats Joe’sfault
@@shaminturner67 Me either. Mal flipped wayyyyy too quick and jumped into an issue that was between Joe and Rory at one point. Rory always got nasty with Joe. They needed to go.
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Mal was kicking dudes outta blogtv chatrooms.. they seemed tight
basically, joe tried to lowball rory and mall by paying them less. They said no. so he said oh you won't take less?. cool I'll find 2 guys that will.
But it wasn't him, that was Spotify. Do you even listen?
"creative differences" 😂
Salary is not a creative difference, Joe. It's a financial dispute. Stop trying to switch the narrative.
It's not a financial dispute when you are the sole investor
@@richdrb and the only one who was creating content, bruh was begging them niggas to step up.....
@richdrb You're not very smart, are you?
@@steviejay868 they help turn the pod into a multimillion dollar project and since they don’t wanna do more after the fact he can be upset ? Is this what you getting at dog
@@steviejay868 yup, "lets take this pod to the next level". i remember all that.
Joe a spin master 😂 ain’t nobody gonna be happy about going from a percentage to a salary unless the salary was more somehow 😂
Thank you bruh 😂😂😂
Lets break it down from the owner perception. Let’s say they did take the percentage. If the show revenue is down you’ll feel it with a percentage. Salary is guaranteed no matter if the revenue is down. The salary may be less but it’s more likely they will get that salary amount rather having a fluctuating pay. But also no employee gets a percentage. If they signed a contract that stated they were getting a percentage off total revenue they are part owners. If this is in writing no matter what, they could sue for millions and win with no problem. Sound like they were just told this and had nothing in writing.
Joe wanted to put them in the place they made comfortable for themselves. They showed that they just wanted to come in work for an hour or 2 and dip. That sounds like someone that should be on salary. If they were bringing partnership deals to the table, or marketing plans that were viable then that would warrent a percentage based payout. If u move like an employee ima treat u like an employee. And don't get it twisted, their "salary" would have been 7 figures. Only 10% of the American population makes over 100k solo (not as a household). They felt like they provided alot by just showing up and talking. But just like an employee in any job when they left parks house, they didn't show much interest in building the show. They brought not much more then talking to the show. That deserves a check. Not a percentage.
The salary would have been more. They were just over it.
@@hippipdip why wouldn't they accept more money?? 🤔
the funny thing is... If you ask Joe would he accept a salary from Spotify, the answer would most likely be no
creative difference
But there’s nothing wrong with that
but it’s the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST
@@JohnGBeats Everyday Struggle wasn't the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST 🤷🏾♂
Joe be thinking he's outsmarting the questions, but to smart people, it just looks like he's trying to hard
Well said
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this is the clearest Joe tho, there's legitimacy here. he's hard to listen too when he on some bs 🤷🏽♀️😅
MATH IS REALLY KILLING THIS POD CAST THING B!
True
#FACTZ ✌️
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Damn Scott you be on everybody stuff lol
Whenever dis dude post i know its a great interview he watched
Lmao he kept saying creative differences but I didn't hear him mention one creative difference 🤣🤣.. this guy will spin everything
Every relationship/friendship Joe has been in, he either ruined or had a fall out. But he is must watch tv.
That’s why he is where he is.
For better or worse
Joe over explained very simple concepts and creates his own definition for things he himself doesn’t fully understand.
Ex. Not agreeing on a salary isn’t creative differences.
It wasn’t just Rory & Mal. There is also the all women podcast where one host felt wronged and then the other two girls dipped. So I mean come on 6 people vs Joe
And we haven't heard from the girls since. They weren't a draw to being with.
And Spotify and Complex and Joell Ortiz and Crook and Eminem and Charlemagne and..
@@blockwriters5728 both can be true. They could’ve not been a big draw while also not have had a good working relationship with joe
@@Watchingvideoslikeu I'll bet a stack they never had partnership paperwork in the Joe Budden podcast as a legal entity. Not EVER!!! And that partnership paperwork would've contained an operating agreement that specified fixed percentages for all profits generated and /or shares of the Joe Budden Podcast company to the aforementioned parties. I ain't ever heard Rory and Mal mention their partnership stakes in the Joe Budden Podcast in any of their complaints about Joe. They were employees, not partners. They assumed they were partners because they were friends. They didn't set the partnership in writing. How you gonna tell the owner of the brand you ain't taking a salary from them and you ain't in a legal owner/partnership with them? You don't have any basis or standing for dispute. And as the owner and the literal brand itself, Joes has a right to specify salaries to subordinates and/or contractors.
@@Bundles06 don't forget Wu.
Rest in Peace Ol' Dirty
Joe still won't take ANY accountability for the Rory and Mal shit
He pretty much made it simple! How you don't understand is wild! He offered a number, they didn't want it! 🤷🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
@@christopheredwards8427 dont even argue fam you know people just wanna hate joe cause it's easy
Exactly!!! He never take accountability for nothing. Dude is just toxic.
So you want Joe to be accountable for other grown men's decisions...?
@@christopheredwards8427 he tried to play it like the salary was gonna be more money for them this nigga still tried to spin it while taking so called accountability
Joe is masterful with taking one strong point and building his whole argument on it. He mentioned Mal turning down the idea of a salary but didn’t mention the contract they were already under (according to mal) was profit partners. His example of 3 mil/yr as salary is very good. Now was profit partners let’s say 1 year you make 5, the next you make 3 and the last you make 7. Then the totals are 9 mil salary compared to 15 profit partners. For mal to already have an idea of how successful their pod already is, taking a salary could be a loss in earnings compared to profit partners.
Which contract were they under that said they were profit partners? Cause Spotify didn’t view them as such .. Rory hardly mentioned this .. so was this actual a contract or mal’s perception?
Joe allowed them to ride his wave (they put in work) but if his shit he gets the lions share
They were workers
if they were partners, he wouldn't have the ability to downgrade them...even if joe had 50% and they each had 25% of the pod, they would stalemate on that subject. and even with that percentage base, that would make them minority stake holders, not partners.
Yes but with "profit partners" comes risk also. If the pod wasn't profitable them dudes wouldn't get paid. If salaried they get paid regardless, that's the angle Joe was probably trying to get at lol
To Mal the risk was probably worth it, which says he believed in it, but it's all perspective I suppose
He left out that he ended a friendship and threaten to sue them if they started another pod. He’s acting like everybody else was mad but he was level headed but he took things further than everybody else.
Joe: I would DIE for a check weekly
Also joe: threw tantrum on complex when he was getting a salary lol
ALSO IF YOU WOULD DIE FOR A CHECK WEEKLY THEN GO GET A JOB JOE.
He was talking about during his rap career. You mfs don’t listen or only hear what you want to hear🤦🏽♂️
@@barrekelly he could have had his rap career and get a pay check. Same with love and hip hop.
I understood it different... he not used to a Job but he would like to have that... he wouldn't take thr salary thing now cause he used to gettin paid depending on his work n how good it is... he not tryna do numbers n get the same as if he dont...
His issue with complex wasn’t salary it was them having to market products and not get a cut. That’s extra not salary!!!!
Can we take time to Salute Math this podcast for its consistency and growth 🙌🏿
How long has it been around?
This podcast is dogshit
Rory and Mal thought they was co owners in something but had no paperwork to back it up. This happens all the time with tv shows, record labels and other professions. Joe didn't feel he owed them anything and they went they separate ways. The end
I dont get why most these fools in the comments dont get that. Street mentality will never win with proper paperwork and business signatures. Specially when you’re emotionally involved with speculation.
They had a percentage based partnership that Joe didn't pay and tried to swindle them out of with his janky accounting. Definitely happens more frequently than ppl care to admit.
He made these niggas millionaires. I never heard of them before the pid
Business differences most of the times become personal differences. Sad but been there many times
this is STILL nasty to me. even after dust settled. i can't watch/listen to the pod for this reason. no accountability
Same
Ditto... Nasty Joe... Nasty!
Man I couldn’t even finish this clip. That man trash 🗑
There is a reason why everything he do with others fail.
Real talk
Joe is super toxic
And then he wants to talk in riddles about it. He had to go through all of that just to say he was putting pre payout money in other things. Like Rory and Mal said they money was helping fund other new podcasts that had better production than them. Something that they never agreed to. That's why he brought up that he got paid off "net" too.
And he still worth more then you.
I wish I had his fails…. 😐. Cause I know I don’t want YOURS…. 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Non factor haters… lol
Joe word for word on the Clearing the air JBP Episode: “I never thought I’d see the day that you two wouldn’t show up here”
Turns around and says he saw the writing on the wall 😂😂😂😂
He’s a pathological liar
@@juallen4396 you didn’t read my statement correctly, has nothing to do with a zodiac.
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Joe said he is talking "in hindsight". Pay attention.
@@Eiuol81853 your name sounds like a virus that hasn’t been discovered yet.
Hindsight doesn’t matter when you’ve said what you said
Pay attention euiol
This man Joe literally made NO SENSE 🤦🏾♂️😂
Joe’s a master at talkin but not saying anything
Just because you can’t understand it doesn’t mean he ain’t saying nothing lmaoo
His fan just don't get it
Lol and these niggas eat it up😂
Well Rory and mal never had an issue with making money off of “net” they weren’t shown what the “net” was lmao. How are you supposed to get a percentage of net profits and not know what the net profits are…..
Joe is the type to explain a question and never answer it.
He basically said it was money.
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Please get Mal on the pod. We need the other (real) half of the story.
3 sides to every story
@@jarvishodges1006 6
Why can’t people see he’s full of it? If everything you do falls apart you don’t know what you’re doing…
He's completely FOS
They do. That’s why no one is responding. He’s over explaining himself bc joe knows he was gettin more money than them.
@@Thisguyrod he owned the network. He get paid twice as talent and owner. Why ppl don’t understand that?
@@Thisguyrod and he shouldn’t? He owns the platform. Them niggas was contractors and ain’t know it
@@stbcurt4250 That's their fault for not understanding they were contractors. If they were partners in the company, they should have an operating agreement specifying their partnership percentages, shares, etc. They were never partners.
The creative difference is that Joe wasn’t showing the accounting and they wanted to see it 😂🤣
And he didn't have to, that's his shit! Nigga I pay you what I want to pay you! Tf lol... It's simple!
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That's legit the opposite of equity partnership
And unfortunately for the co-hosts, Joe doesn't owe them any accounting. He was signed to Spotify, they weren't. Thats Joe's contract. Not Rory and Mal's
@@mauricestewart8472 the podcast was signed to Spotify. not joe by himself.
Oh my lord! This man should be a politician with the way he answers a question but never answers a question. Soooo many words. The waving of the arms. The voice inflections. But it means nothing.
Word Salad
Joey a professional liar, that’s dangerous. He really can express it as truth
He is good too. He can twist things just enough to get you to drop it and move on.
What did he lie about?🤣 Yall act like if he said "I didn't want to show them the accounting so they left"... it would be the truth somehow.🤣
@@zetsutsuletsu2034 right i know joe is easy to hate but what makes anyone else more credible than him. Niggas will listen to literally anyone say something and believe that as fact over joe
We should be lucky he doesn't study a particular discipline that can really help him do this far better than he does on his own
Joes ability to lie is both his best gift and worst curse
It was a beef because Joe got in his feelings and tried to destroy Rory and Mal's reputation and said some foul stuff and brought it out to the public in the most disrespectful way. And now Mal doesn't F with him and Joe still wants that relationship. Him and Rory are now cool though. THis is EXACTLY why Ish and Ice BOTH have managers that represent with their contracts on the JBP.
Which is wtf mal and rory should've done. We in buisness now its not personal just buisness. Lawyer up and go over that black and white.
@@jasonwilliams9307 Yes, this is true. Ice and Ish didnt want to make the same mistakes trying to work out contracts/negotiating directly with Joe so they hired Managers to that. And since Joe brings it up now every other Pod, LOL, he is feeling a way about it. But Ice don't care that Joe don't like it. It's just a smart business move like you said. If anyone treats podcating like a business, it's definitely Ice. LOL.
I've been watching "expert opinion" all day math this show is gold 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Yeah this ish growing on me cant lie
The clock is always ticking for you when Joe Budden is involved
Funny how he threw in 3 million as an example of salary refusal, then pulled it back by saying “whatever the salary is”, because he didn’t want to be on the hook for quoting a specific dollar offer that he knew wasn’t close to what was actually proposed.
If you know how to read people you’re ahead of the game.
Plus in the past when explaining his side he tried to make it out like he was trying to give everybody a raise. But without showing the real certified accounting. How are they supposed to even know if that is really a raise without seeing the paperwork?
Or, and hear me out…it was a completely hypocritical example
@@firstname2022 😂😂
@5thElementSandwhich You must be Mal or Rory in disguise
@@timoaksproductions no. I’m just someone who has the ability to be objective, while at the same time being a fan. I like Joe, but he stay capping. He can’t be trusted with the bag. We all know someone like that, and have kept them at a distance unless otherwise necessary.
Joe keeps comparing how he got paid in rap to the podcast. It’s not the same thing
a narcissit
Facts, its a completely new playing field. Joe just sees the floodgates about to happen and wanted complete ownership and crontrol. Wanted employees and not business partners
@@damogreen2560 could you blame him? His name is the shows title. I never thought it was anyone's show besides his.
Facts
@@Money6366 It didn't start that way. It was I'll Name This Podcast Later until episode 108.
For someone who prides himself as a media mogul, Joe is a closed book in interviews.
Many secrets
You don’t learn s**t in his interviews!
Well...what is he saying that he's not and why?what I'm hearing is he was putting in the work while they was putting in half the work but receiving the same ...but they feeling themselves to much to notice..and look like a asshole for saying it ..so he walking on eggshells so he dont look a way...thats what I get.
@Stacey Martin that is not what happened .. Mal and Rory wanted to see the books.. Joe wouldn't let them or kept dancing around it delaying them.. This cause Mal and Rory to question why someone would do that (especially a friend).. And the only logical conclusion is there's something to hide!I
Joe playing semantics by saying "we have creative differences" when it has nothing to do with the creative part, it's the business part, is a clear sign of his narcissistic mentality.. The fact Joe said himself "it's my podcast on my channel I don't have to" shows what type of time he was on (which again is ok in business but don't make out your friendship is more important and your a stand up dude with your ride or dies when clearly that isn't the case.early
Granted Rory and Mal should of had their business in order from the start BUT if we friends like that and the show grew with and because of the two co hosts (which it did) why would you want your so called "friends" to be in salaries instead of having ownership WHICH JOE IS A ADVOCATE FOR?! It's backward and contradicting so I can say I smell a d rider or disingenuous person when they try miss the actual reason to push Joes deluded version 🤦🏾♂️
@@azlstrhl end of the day it’s his show, we all knew of budden before the pod. Rory and mal were barely known, Joe has the name it’s his show of course he runs it.
This friendship thing is clouding y’all head, they didn’t do equal work to be paid equal. If they were equals they wouldn’t have had that little strike on the show. Workers go on strike, the boss (joe) shows up and has to get it done no matter what because its HIS business.
Rory and Mal are in a way better place now. Really liking what they’re doing.
Nice conversation with Joe, thats what it is - don´t mix bizness with friends..
Dude is delusional
You didn’t have creative differences you had financial differences lol
1. It was an incentive laden comp plan; the higher the income the more R&M get.
2. They never had equity
3. They never had to sit behind expenses. When joe owns it, and there is no money, he needs to pay for expenses. R&M never need to sit behind expenses
4. SO when spotify money went dry…he was gonna pay them out of his own pocket and be responsible for that no matter how operations performed
5. It depends now, more expenses give them less profit sharing, so the accountants need to now make sure all expenses are valid that go through THE PODCAST business
6. All revenue legally contracted with JBP LLC, would be subject to the profit sharing plan
Did joe try to hide revenues by getting another LLC to sign sponsorship deals so R&M couldnt see it?
Did joe run expenses through so the pod had less income for R&M to participate in?
He said to audit him. That’s totally fine
I stopped watching when Rory and Mal left!!!! They have a great podcast on their own.
@@flygenyus2186 not really. It fell off after a few episodes
Keep the great content coming math
you don't go from partner to salary
Buddens always eurosteppin accountability in every situation he’s been in
Salary means employee…. Employee means tax break for joe and not for mal and Rory…. 🤷♂️
These comments are chewing Joe's ass up *Pause* Joe can never take blame or accountability smh
Everybody time is ticking when you dealing with Joe 😂
That’s the problem
I’ve never heard Joe take any accountability in any situation he’s been in not ever
Joe Budden's problem might be because he's a great talent he thinks he's great at business. And when business is good everything is easy. But when issues arise that's when you know how good you really are.
The issue with Dame Dash belittling people for having a lack of ownership was the assumption that everyone is meant to be an owner. Some people are just talent they're not businessmen.
Joe Budden is a great talent but a bad business runner and operator. He blew up the Spotify deal without a game plan and was stuck when he couldn't pay his cohost.
People need to know their strengths and weaknesses!
I dont believe Joe
He's a master of switching narratives
That's what he always did
It’s hard to do business with friends because if business goes bad you still want to see them again
They was his roommates …at first not really day 1s. . Right !! I don’t see why he should have held on to them
Greediness!!!!!
money is your friend, ( it’s who you want to always see and have with you )
fuck people ! they disappoint always ( who wants to still see them? please )
@@sonicmagnus5312 the realness right here can't put your trust in mankind
Let me just say this IM PROUD OF MATH!!! This platform turned into a mandatory stop in New York hip hop media and that's huge for Math and Battle rap. Back to Joe rambling
Even based on his explanation it’s financial differences, not creative differences.
Matt asked a really good question at the end. And I just know Joe about to dodge it.
Rory and Mal were your partners, Joe.
They weren’t your employees.
Everyone new that but joe, they were never on equal level and Mal & Rory assume they were.
If the paperwork was correct they could not of go bumpt
He just said they all got paid off net and not gross. They aren't partners because they weren't the brand, Joe is. They felt they could outdo Joe on their own. They haven't but they are doing ok. Kudos to them. They're still collecting net somewhere else.
Definitely was employees that’s why he fired them and they couldn’t do shit about it
Partners would mean they would be making some kind of investment or have a stake in ownership. I wonder how much of their own additional money went into it, not just accounting for expenditure before taking their cut.
It’s always everyone else’s fault except for Joe
I love how all the comments calling Joe out on his BS
Math caught Joey on that last question...good job math
Imagine lying as an adult lmaoooo
How do you know he's lying?
Math and the crew I love the way you get an interview and break it up into segments, Very smart its frustrating a little as a fan as in this case the convo was just getting good then it ended but still very smart. Great job to you and your entire team. 92,000 VIEW ONLY 2000 LIKES COME ON YALL HIT THAT "LIKE" BUTTON so the homie Math and grow larger
All that stuff Joe named doesn't exist anymore though (Everyday Struggle, State of the Culture, Pull Up and all the other shows on his network)
This interview has proved that he boldfaced acted like he was a friend and was plotting to drop them.. if the writing was there he would have said. At the end we are going different directions. Not trick them into changing the name and then telling them to dip..
Literally told Rory the writing was on the wall
Joe literally made them boys 💀💀💀 Mal “it’s not about money” but it goes back to “accounting” lmaoo
Mal Is Related To Biggs.. The Co Founder Of Roc A Fella Records.. He And JayZ Look At Each Other As Family.. Trust Me Joe Didn’t “MAKE” Him..
@@QuiseKirilenko bruh😭😭😭 who GAF about him sitting in a studio for a few Jay Z tracks 💀💀💀”Rory and Mal” came from Joe Budden podcast lol they didn’t even know eachother 🤣
@@AliFrankTheTank Rory Worked For Sony Records Sir.. And Mal Was Established Before The Pod As Well.. How About Say Joe Made Them Famous.. But Made Them In General?? Negative.. No He Didn’t.. Rory And Joe Started The Pod Together.. Rory’s Name Is In The Description Of Episode 1 Rory Is The Person Who Used To Put Together The Pods When They First Started.. That’s Documented, All You Have To Do Is Research It. Rory Also Had Henny Poluzza Poppin As Well They Even Sold Out The Barclays.. And The Pod Wasnt Taking Off In Popularity Until Mal Arrived Thats Also Documented From Joe Budden Himself. They Covered That In Episode 200.. It’s Okay To Be A Joe Stan. But Dont Be Bias..
@@QuiseKirilenko Nigga you typed a whole buncha cap and nonsense but only thing i’ll reply to is that Joe Budden Views rant on Drake is what got that pod buzzing 💀💀 and Sony records??? nigga they killed micheal jackson who cares
A disagreement about money is not a creative difference🤦♂️
The non business people will never understand Joe decision.. Mal & Rory still hadn't brought anything but a new show where Mal magically talks more😐...creative difference🤷🏽♂️
Ugh I don't see ish and ice as much difference ..
they know their role
Mr. Budden did right keep grinding for his success. Like he was telling others you need to pay attention to your surroundings in order to learn how to get ahead. Less talk and more observance.
$3 Million sounds like a lot but how much was the show making in total? they wanted percentage for that reason. Joe a funny dude.
Creative differences or accounting differences. Dude is full of it dawg
Math always kills it with the topics
Joe could definitely host a show by himself now that he more seasoned and he's also entertaining to watch when he gets invested in a topic🤣🤣
For some reason he still don't. it's like he needs co-host
naw,Joe the pod father..he can knock them shitsbout on his own,just him and parks
Listening to joe for 3 hrs twice a week plus pateron is Disgusting
Facts
Ain’t no way I’m starting a company with someone then getting put on salary before we sign a multimillion dollar deal 😂😂😂
Joe is selfish and that’s why he will never get what he’s looking for
You think advertisers give AF about rory or mal?
@@tha-story Spotify did
@@Eagles2020 where?? They put only joe on billboards.. Joe was the main attraction my guy
@@tha-story Rory and Mal have signed a $10M deal for a podcast. It has been doing well and is growing. Where have you been?
MAAAAAAAAAAAATH!!!! Mane I got luv 4 this dude n I’m just soooo proud of the success…not to mention this man done pulled off a podcast with such a balance between a street feel yet so progressive at the same time. Kudos
Joe was Jealous of Rory because he was killing it for months when Joe was going through his crap. He is surprised that Mal sided with Rory even though they are all friends.
That's a cap, they ain't killing shit and their views have been falling.
@@juombe lol if you feel that way. The new JB pod isn't as good as the original. That's because of Rory and Mal.
It's several issues here. Joe probably was giving them a great contract in comparison to his bad rap contracts. I believe he was looking out for them in his mind. The problem is they needed or wanted to judge that for themselves with seeing the overall deal. The number 1 issue is they considered themselves partners and not employees. In my opinion they never should have allowed the name change. I feel like it went downhill from there.
Charlemagne told them
My older brother said the same thing. Naming it “the joe Budden podcast” was a bad idea.
Man a partnership doesn't start with a name change you have to PUT MONEY UP. They never did so they have no claim to ownership
@@coachtali5151 that’s where you’re wrong, they all contributed. Joes podcast was also trash before Rory came, then Mal shortly after… money doesn’t equal ownership that’s a fact. There’s a reason ideas and voices are valued the way they are. Joe would even be here if it was for Peter Rosenberg.
No one in there right mind would take a salary not knowing what the overall money was… why would someone take 3 mil a year if you making 300 mil a year???
Joe told Mal plenty of times to start his sports podcast but Mal never did it.
@@flygenyus2186 idk but he would talk about sports on the podcast and Joe said he should’ve made up a segment then he said you should start a sports pod to make more money.
@@flygenyus2186 you can tell some days Mal wasn’t really into podding.
They both was lazy they wanted more than they were worth. I put yall on we eating now I'm showing yall how to get it and yall do nothing with it
Definitely one of the most important facts: Figuring it out by yourself!
joe is the king of deflecting , crazy how i was introduced to rory and mal by joe and respect them more
With all due respect to Joe, Rory and Mal are better off without him. 🤷🏿♂️
That's a cap!
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@@juombe huh?
@@juombe big cap i never heard of them in my life before jbp now they left I don't even know what they're doing no cap.
@@jasonwilliams9307 it's better than being under the thumb of someone emotionally unstable. 🤷🏿♂️
Even Joe Rogan doesn't do the show by himself ,he has the guy behind the scenes who gets involved
Yes but I think that's what it would of been. Don't call me white girl kind of does it herself and it is hilarious with people at the back.
Yeah jaimie plus security and others
He has a guest every episode
Joe doesn't do the show by himself don't you hear him and see him talking to other people.
Sigh.....this is why lead singers go on to have solo careers. Because they are the main attraction.
Joe wants the
1. Authority of men
2. The benefits of being a woman and
3. The accountability of a child
My only question is, if he did steal why aren’t they suing him for the money they say he stole. It’s literally that simple. All this constant back and forth is stupid.
JBP use to be my shit! But I stand with Rory and Mal ✊🏽 Good Content Math!!! 💯
I with you, haven't watched the JBP since Rory and Mal left. Especially after Joe said he didn't have to be respectful to his friends.
It’s not creative difference it’s being greedy and not splitting ownership with the 2 ppl who built the house with him 😴
Joe was the brand before they showed up. He didn't need them to pod. They needed him. Somewhere along the line they got confused about that.
But how can they own the Joe Budden podcast that uses his name???? We didn't know who Rory and Mal were, I would let anyone own my name. Doesn't make any sense.
@@tuesdayschild8994 you wouldn’t know the podcast without Mal and Rory so stop it
Nigga mal was a stay at home wife in Detroit prior to his man’s getting traded to NY and he came with him which led to Joe seeing potential and putting mal on the show, they added hella value but they can’t claim ownership without putting in the same effort and funds to support the pod
@@ItsSpotty it’s happening now. What are you saying? I still know Mal today as bigg’s brother. Let’s not act crazy
That damn gunshot at the end with AirPods on is life threatening. 😂
Joe running laps of confusion! Keep it real Bro 😎
Joe is One of the biggest clowns
Man Joe was one of my favorite rappers, "walk with me" is super dope...and his "mood musik" mixtape series are incredible and underrated.
Def Jam Fight 4 NY
"pray for me" off Padded room is my jam
Joe & Math! ONLY 2 pods I watch!
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This interview is a great example of "creative differences". Different men with different opinions / views but they're able to sit and talk like adults without the bullshit.
When $ becomes part of the equation you need to watch EVERYONE around you and pay attention to the way they move.