When Crook speaks, you can feel the genuine nature in this voice. The yelawolf example, the text message with Kino, and his desire to get the group to historic levels. I respect dude even more
There's a reason why Joe has a long track record of failed relationships whether it be with the women he's dated, other artists or with friends. He's the common denominator. He even said on a podcast in a round about way that he doesn't feel like he has to respect his friends. He is the problem and that problem has to do with a lack of emotional intelligence in how to treat people.
Facts man! Joe is the common denominator! Everything that man touches becomes cursed! Complex! JBP with those other two ass kissers until it smelt like shit! Then Joe got two new ones now! Also the deal with Shady! He has probably put a spanner into a friendship with Royce and Em because his Joe! And it’s sad to see Royce do all that given what he got from Marshall! At this point Crook is a better friend to Em than Royce is! And crook just kept it real and said there is always different stories but look at the facts
He is also extremely passive aggressive a trait commonly known with intelligent people but intelligence doesn't equal smart. Smart understand treat people like u want to be treated n the arrogance that come with intelligence, is always undermine n condescending to that aspect rather your a billionaire or got 5 bucks. Mutual respect is priceless n costs nothing.
@@keithdior1657 and joe is more successful as a Podcaster than he ever was as a rapper, which feeds his ego so he not gonna be down to come together for the group
As a Joe super fan when it comes to his music, I’m going to have to agree with this take. Love the dudes talent when it comes to telling stories and rap. But as a person… I’m gonna have to pass
The moment is this. When 4 men sit int the same room and talk through it. That’s the real moment. You will rock with who say what you want to hear. Slaughterhouse definitely under appreciated. Respect to all 4 members.
Except they didn’t sit down within the group and talked shit out…like crook said, Joe didn’t even have the nerve to call. Dude had his direct number , could’ve called and he didn’t … that’s extremely disrespectful, especially when you’re working with that person.
If I had waited 11 years and Joe stubbed up and wouldn't put in work, I'd be mad AF. And THEN...they all get off Shady to appease Joe and he still being mad disrespectful and refusing deals, FOH! Esp if they didn't wanna get off Shady, cmon. No way he was coming back to hip hop bc he makes too much money now so he wasn't coming out of retirement no matter what. Joe has been and always will be the problem, period.
@@jerrywalker3788 huh?? So Joe & Royce can talk about all the reasons constantly, but when 2 MC's actually spit like mc's should, they catch the fade? Fuk that. Joell & Crook have always been more str8 up then Joe & Royce thru their careers.
@@CSpad Right. People were so hung up on the name of the album. Like come on man. All the while Royce/Joe said some really foul foul stuff about these dudes and THAT was ok because they are bigger stars? Craziness.
Man u can tell by the way they rap that it's not just for money, they spit top tier verses and that can't be easy, their consistency is off they charts, especially crook, it's passion in those bars
Many didn't hear what Crook said..... It's 4 of us, light workload. All mfkas have to do is do they're respective verses. Egos get in the way too much with rap dudes. Then when you're the one trying to be the fixer or the savior, you're viewed as weak or needy. Naw bro, I just see the bigger picture here....
I still bump Slaughterhouse to this day, a legendary group brought down by the ego of 1 or two members. Respect to Joell and Crooked for clearing the air and keeping it a 100
@@johnye2210 he went on the same podcast right before they went. That’s why they are there to give their side. You’ll have to look it up. Too much to type.
@@tristinhall1275 My bad. Pride is still the most destructive. It almost always comes with other character flaws and is usually the down fall of many successful men.
Where is Esso? He’s the one on the show that was trying to say that they were broke. That’s why they needed to try to do the deal, of course he is not present …, weak move!!.
MAJOR DIFFERENCE in energy, that's why I believe them over Royce and Joe. Crook has receipts, and everything has facts to back them. Even when Math and glasses, "couldn't remember disrespect" Crook reminded them. Glasses energy completely changed, because he saw it to be the truth and logical. The opposite of his energy with Joe and Royce. The vibe is right here, not on those episodes.
They didn't point out any disrespect tho just their own insecurities. Talking about "the energy " they only felt that "energy" cause they was insecure about the situation.
@@TheRealAwestBeats Grill him. Stevie wonder lookin ass, lil Jon in high school before the fame lookin ass, dread head nerd pornstar lookin ass, lupe fiasco if he went to a Halloween party lookin ass 😂
It all goes back to Joe whenever I hear the Slaughterhouse stories because both Crook & Royce has interesting perspectives on the situation, where I can understand both of their points.
When Royce was on the show and talked about his friend who helped him and he didn't pay him a penny and turned it around like his man was stealing money from him, I knew what type of person Royce was.
@@emushow9315 because from the story he said himself his man looking out for him and he didn't pay him anything. Then when his man got some verses for an agreed upon price, his man just added his fee to it and Royce got mad and made it like he took his money.
@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth Nah, Kid Vishis said he has no problem calling out his brother Royce, if there's evidence showing he did the scam nobody was able to prove it.
“Oh you don’t respect me when I bring something to the table”.. that’s interesting because Rory mirrored that same sentiment from Joe when he tried to broker a deal with Tidal for the JBP.
Joe’s out there busy doing business shit and Joe doesnt respect you because you dont bring anything to the table. If you do, why the fuck are you doing deals behind his back? And it’s a shit deal anyway, which is why Joe’s gonna speak to the same people about the same deal himself 💀
@@afnanbogey This gotta be Joe burner account. Cause ain’t no way you know all this information and can speak for other people unless you was there. Aye Joe are you going to all about the Kanye drink champs interview on the next pod 👀.
Who remembers the original Eastsidaz group with Snoop, Crooked I, Techniec, and Lil C Style? They had one song "Feels So Good" produced by Battlecat that came out years before the "official" version of the group Tha Eastsidaz with Trey Deee and Goldie Loc.
Ego is an antidote to success. Many great things can be accomplished if one choose to put ego aside. I've saved many friendships over the years by doing that and later those same people acknowledged me for bringing everyone together.
Understand why Crook & Joell felt disrespect coming from Royce & Joe, if I'm bringing in a massive opportunity that can benefit everybody and I'm not getting no responses from a member of our group is not responding He getting left behind. No more way I'm waiting 11 years for someone to come back
@@phantomface9211 No, they didn't move on. They made an album bitching and moaning about Joe and Royce which took away from any potential they had to make great music. And the music wasn't great anyway.
@@rockwild737 Yeah... that was the album that dropped back in March, "Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse" (and tbh the title tells you what to expect). Less than 6 months later they _moved on_ and dropped a 2nd album just last month called "Harbor City: Season One."
Yo Math, tell Crook and Joell they should flip the brand name to HOUSE OF SLAUGHER and move forward with both the music and the record label! Onward and Upward Kings! Peace and Positivity to You All...
Joe really is the problem here. He’s a narcissist. He never wants to give the picture from all angles. I do agree the shady deal was wack and the whole sound they were attaching to that album was wack because they’re not that. But he’s still wrong for not just completing the contract and moving forward
No real artist who has a passion for what they do is just going to put out some bullishit ,to make someone else happy. Especially when the business is bad. Respectfully 🙏🏽
Was it really wack though??? It was more commercial than we wanted but that's what happens when u sight to a major..... the needed radio play and Em put his all into trying to help these dudes get big... lost money and didn't care.... everyone respected what em did except joe..... Joe is the bad situation for slaughterhouse..... in reality Joe was jelly Royse and Em put out bad meets evil and Royse was blowing up outside the group
its what i noticed about these guys, love the guests they have on, but they play sides, poke the bear by asking certain questions, when someone tells them their side they will disagree like in this clip lol some boys never grow up i guess, and where is Esso?
Glasses never pushed back versus Joe and Royce that’s the problem. That’s why I’m glad math had these guys on. Two sides to the story. I loved that Crook checked glasses! Crook made logical valid points to his argument about the money and the XXL cover.
@@truthspeaker4ever he didn’t check anyone all he said was his feelings were hurt cause there was a narrative that they was doing it for the money ; they like 40 caring about social media narratives grown the hell up
That’s why I don’t respect his opinion. He was leading the charge against Joell and Crook then changed his tune. He acts like he knows everything from every clip I see reality is he doesn’t know shit.
Hella props for this clip here. It provides SO much depth into the history of slaughterhouse. It adjusted some one my lenses on the whole situation. Good job 👍 keep it trucking
Joe just stuck on himself, and I think everyone knows that. Respect to Crook & Joel for keeping it 💯 Much love to Royce too, cuz I think hes just caught in the middle and needs time to process all this correctly. Hope they can make peace with it, and God willing maybe they’ll be on tracks together again.
I wish Slaughterhouse’s story didn’t end like this. Wish Joell and Crooked the best their duo projects have been dope. Good seeing them on Math but nothing new shared in this interview.
Big fan of all room MC’s. Been rocking each of them before they formed Slaughterhouse. But I do agree. It shouldn’t take 10 years for a group to make music. If Joe didn’t like the offers then Joe should of out more effort into finding offers they liked. But in music history the most iconic group never last and that is part of the legacy.
Yeah and Royce saying Joe didn't explicitly day he didn't want to do the deal. If you know Joe is aware of the deal and Joe doesn't say anything, it's obviously assumed he's saying no. Plus how does he expect to get more details about the deal or adjust it if he's not willing to speak?
I know this is not about the lox but that's why you gotta respect them. They battled Roc a fella, G-unit, won the Verzus battle against Dip Set and they are still together.
The bottomlime of the situation is Joe never wanted to come back and rap no matter what he said. His podcast took off and he was and is making more money then he ever saw in rap. Why would he leave that to go back to splitting money 4 ways. Joe should have just come all the way clean. Seems he was misleading them , had them thinking he was down and never truly was. Either that or he wanted the whole situation to be on his terms and his terms only. He may have felt a way about Crook taking the lead and initiative to bring deals to the table.
What I love about Math's show is everyone is in their right mind when they speak their truths. That's not to suggest that I don't enjoy the shows with the booze and bud (because that brings out another sort of truth), but this show is one of the few standouts these days. Good work 🙌🏿 And, Joe...👀 Do better, brother. I'm surprised at Royce.
There is nothing like his truth, her truth, your truth or their truth. There is only one truth which is The Truth. The problem is, people talk about the truth of their situation from their own perspective. That doesn't make it that person's truth. It is their perspective of the truth. They don't own the truth
I didn’t even realize it was over 10 years since that Slaughterhouse record dropped! I played in this basketball tournament with my stepdad( God bless his soul) and one of my homies and we named the team Slaughterhouse because of these guys. Always been a fan of Joell. Shouts to Cooper pjs. Crooked keep doing your thing man. The people gonna feel you
Anybody that doesn't want to place ANY blame on Joe... please... look at his track record when it comes to business deals and even personal relationships. Jay... Def Jam... Amalgam Digital... Ransom... Shady... The JBP... these are just off the top of my head. How many relationships does a dude need to fuck up before you start to notice a pattern? I fuck with Joe. I still bump Mood Muzik 1 - 4 til this day. I been a fan since the Clue tapes. But if we talkin about Joe AS A PERSON.... come on now.
Perception is key. I've had similar issues with associates. Joe could perceive it the exact same way. Listening to all sides all I hear is egos getting in the way
The comments section is why putting things in public makes it a mess. There’s a lot of ppl speaking about men that they don’t know analyzing a situation they aren’t apart of and weren’t there lol
What happened was that Royce and Joe went into different lanes and bags. They didn't care as much anymore. Joell and Crook have money and live comfortably, anyone with a half a brain can see that. They literally just wanted to rap and have the group cemented as all time legends. People don't get how this whole thing became a massive "what if?".
I don’t like picking sides but i got JOELL AND CROOKED on this one, joe is a handful and Royce is loyal to Joe so that’s the downside.. would’ve been fine with slaughterhouse dropping without joe
And no one closer to em than Royce so for Royce to side with Joe over them CLEARLY something is wrong. Also why didn't crook sign to shady if he was so loyal???
Because he sure sat right up there on that show in that barber shop pushing that narrative and you all were co-signing .. agreeing that they were doing it for a bag now the energy is totally different
That condescending shit is what got Royce neutered vs Lupe and Mickey. Royce and Bidden are two of my favorite writers but they seem like extraordinarily corny individuals.
It's Joe the fact that Royce was going between showed that he was still trying ot put things together Joe wasn't following through. But now the house is gone..so let's see who going to do the numbers
When Crook speaks, you can feel the genuine nature in this voice. The yelawolf example, the text message with Kino, and his desire to get the group to historic levels. I respect dude even more
No doubt. It doesnt feel like an act or some sort of facade
Crook is boss 🔥 COB
@@303TAG303 Crook is BROKE 😂😂😂
He always been a real one
And the opposite w joe and Royce. Glad Lupe stomped him
There's a reason why Joe has a long track record of failed relationships whether it be with the women he's dated, other artists or with friends. He's the common denominator. He even said on a podcast in a round about way that he doesn't feel like he has to respect his friends. He is the problem and that problem has to do with a lack of emotional intelligence in how to treat people.
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Facts man! Joe is the common denominator! Everything that man touches becomes cursed! Complex! JBP with those other two ass kissers until it smelt like shit! Then Joe got two new ones now! Also the deal with Shady! He has probably put a spanner into a friendship with Royce and Em because his Joe! And it’s sad to see Royce do all that given what he got from Marshall! At this point Crook is a better friend to Em than Royce is! And crook just kept it real and said there is always different stories but look at the facts
He is also extremely passive aggressive a trait commonly known with intelligent people but intelligence doesn't equal smart. Smart understand treat people like u want to be treated n the arrogance that come with intelligence, is always undermine n condescending to that aspect rather your a billionaire or got 5 bucks. Mutual respect is priceless n costs nothing.
@@keithdior1657 and joe is more successful as a Podcaster than he ever was as a rapper, which feeds his ego so he not gonna be down to come together for the group
As a Joe super fan when it comes to his music, I’m going to have to agree with this take. Love the dudes talent when it comes to telling stories and rap. But as a person… I’m gonna have to pass
Crook is the only one keeping it real lol. I like Royce a lot but he's making excuses for a friend that is a weasel...
EXACTLY
WORD!!!
Facts. Joe use to be one of my fav rappers but as a human he is one of the worse kind. Dude is so manipulative
Making excuses for joe
Strong agree.
I find it hilarious that Esso was talking mad shit about Joell and Crook being broke but when they show up, Esso nowhere to be found.
Lmfao he broke out
Peeped it 1st clip. My man had picked his side.
Probably scared of Joell 😂
Where he at 😂
He hasn't been on a few shows and what validity does he have anyway he has not ties to that camp
The moment is this. When 4 men sit int the same room and talk through it. That’s the real moment. You will rock with who say what you want to hear. Slaughterhouse definitely under appreciated. Respect to all 4 members.
Except they didn’t sit down within the group and talked shit out…like crook said, Joe didn’t even have the nerve to call. Dude had his direct number , could’ve called and he didn’t … that’s extremely disrespectful, especially when you’re working with that person.
Hell yeah
If I had waited 11 years and Joe stubbed up and wouldn't put in work, I'd be mad AF. And THEN...they all get off Shady to appease Joe and he still being mad disrespectful and refusing deals, FOH! Esp if they didn't wanna get off Shady, cmon. No way he was coming back to hip hop bc he makes too much money now so he wasn't coming out of retirement no matter what. Joe has been and always will be the problem, period.
These men don’t have minds of their own ; they don’t have to do whatever joe said
Naming your album rise and fall of the slaughterhouse is nasty. I don't care what Joe or Royce did. You ruined a name that yall built together.
@@jerrywalker3788 huh?? So Joe & Royce can talk about all the reasons constantly, but when 2 MC's actually spit like mc's should, they catch the fade? Fuk that. Joell & Crook have always been more str8 up then Joe & Royce thru their careers.
@@CSpad just not as popular . They waited for joe cuz he moved the needle.when u not the star of a group u have to move with the needle mover
@@CSpad Right. People were so hung up on the name of the album. Like come on man. All the while Royce/Joe said some really foul foul stuff about these dudes and THAT was ok because they are bigger stars? Craziness.
Esso shoulda been here to catch his shots. He was definitely adding spice to the whole “they did it cause they are broke” narrative
He didn't want that heat! It's obvious why he wasn't there. 😂
It’s funny he missed this one after adding those snippets
I said the same shit on one of the previous videos lol
Esso with his "frontal lobe is not developed" takes
No Queens people so that a no show.
Man u can tell by the way they rap that it's not just for money, they spit top tier verses and that can't be easy, their consistency is off they charts, especially crook, it's passion in those bars
Many didn't hear what Crook said..... It's 4 of us, light workload. All mfkas have to do is do they're respective verses. Egos get in the way too much with rap dudes. Then when you're the one trying to be the fixer or the savior, you're viewed as weak or needy. Naw bro, I just see the bigger picture here....
Sidebar: Whomever lined up Crooked's beard is the Real MVP 🔥🔥🔥
I still bump Slaughterhouse to this day, a legendary group brought down by the ego of 1 or two members. Respect to Joell and Crooked for clearing the air and keeping it a 100
Joell never been this tight before, you can tell that Slaughterhouse shit upset him and he feels disrespected by Joe.
9:06 you can definitely hear the pain is his voice.
Him and Joe spoke before all of these recent interviews. They are addressing what Royce said recently now
@@COTTrader whatd roycr say again now ?
Or he know he is lying
@@johnye2210 he went on the same podcast right before they went. That’s why they are there to give their side. You’ll have to look it up. Too much to type.
Is interesting how Joel and crook are so similar & and Royce & joe are so similar.
And that's probably the problem, the division between the four. Joe Buddon is kinda wierd in a good way, kinda like, it;s my way or the Highway.
@@TheodorePendergrass exactly
Right
Joe and Royce are the narcissist
@@TheodorePendergrass these guys are lying. Crook trying to act like he's closer to em than Royce 😂😂😂
Crook in battle rap mode with the rebuttal at the end! 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
That rebuttal so subtle it can't be bottled
At this point I'm ready for these two to continue as a group...
they just dropped a new projet together
Then support them, they have 3 projects together, and all fire!
They already did!
Yeah, long as they don't keep calling the group Slaughterhouse
@@Omega-h4e Joell and Crook from Harbor City nothing about Slaughterhouse
I felt that. Ego and pride are the 2 worst of the 7 deadly
Especially within Joe’s body…he has some really foul shit brewing with him. Fucks over damn near everybody that tries to help his undeserving ass.
Sloth pride greed envy lust wrath gluttony. Ego is not a deadly sin and it's almost the same as pride.
@@tristinhall1275 My bad. Pride is still the most destructive. It almost always comes with other character flaws and is usually the down fall of many successful men.
Joe’s bipolar has a lot to do with it too
Idk man wrath leads to ass murder and shit; thats pretty bad
Slaughterhouse was under appreciated fr 🤦🏾♂️
They didn't make classic songs
We appreciated them they just fell apart
they were been hated just cuz they was rollin with em
@@dassolosyndikat5113 i liked the group but you are right
They didn't have enough material
Where is Esso? He’s the one on the show that was trying to say that they were broke. That’s why they needed to try to do the deal, of course he is not present …, weak move!!.
Facts!!!!!!
He would’ve caught a fade that’s wgy
He is weak bro.Dont respect that at all.Btch move
MAJOR DIFFERENCE in energy, that's why I believe them over Royce and Joe. Crook has receipts, and everything has facts to back them. Even when Math and glasses, "couldn't remember disrespect" Crook reminded them. Glasses energy completely changed, because he saw it to be the truth and logical. The opposite of his energy with Joe and Royce. The vibe is right here, not on those episodes.
Facts , that’s why they (Royce and joe) were so emotional. They refused to rap crooked and Joel snatched control and spoke their truth
Glasses 😆 🤣 😂
The irony of talking about disrespect but calling Mecca "glasses." Easy name to remember, just watch any segment or episode.
They didn't point out any disrespect tho just their own insecurities. Talking about "the energy " they only felt that "energy" cause they was insecure about the situation.
@@thirdburna exactly
Where is son that was talking that they needed the money ish??..u conveniently not there right 😂
XXL was bigger than source at the time when crook n Joell was on the cover. Buddy with the stevie wonder dreads was trippin talkin bout "one of them"
Lmao Stevie Wonder dreads
@@jazzymidear3466 He had me heated watching this! Had to roast his azz 🤣
@@TheRealAwestBeats Grill him. Stevie wonder lookin ass, lil Jon in high school before the fame lookin ass, dread head nerd pornstar lookin ass, lupe fiasco if he went to a Halloween party lookin ass 😂
Buddy stays voicing his opinions extra loud all the time.
It's cause he used to work for the source but he definitely wrong.
I've always believed Crook and Joell side is the story, they are much more authentic
It all goes back to Joe whenever I hear the Slaughterhouse stories because both Crook & Royce has interesting perspectives on the situation, where I can understand both of their points.
When Royce was on the show and talked about his friend who helped him and he didn't pay him a penny and turned it around like his man was stealing money from him, I knew what type of person Royce was.
How wud u know?
@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth Kid Vishis already cleared up the scam thing with Grizzy Hendrix.
@@emushow9315 because from the story he said himself his man looking out for him and he didn't pay him anything. Then when his man got some verses for an agreed upon price, his man just added his fee to it and Royce got mad and made it like he took his money.
@Tien Most Powerful Human On Earth Nah, Kid Vishis said he has no problem calling out his brother Royce, if there's evidence showing he did the scam nobody was able to prove it.
Royce is an alcoholic. Now if he was sober doing that stuff he’s an evil human.
I like Mecca, but sometimes he tries to argue his opinion on too people a little too much it's kinda monotonous
Facts like it’s only one way of seeing shyt he just so square he don’t understand other perspectives
Big facts! I swear I've been wanting to comment that.
He’s annoying AF
One of those guys who always thinks he’s the smartest in the room. Need to be silent sometimes
He gotta be right.
“Oh you don’t respect me when I bring something to the table”.. that’s interesting because Rory mirrored that same sentiment from Joe when he tried to broker a deal with Tidal for the JBP.
Joe’s out there busy doing business shit and Joe doesnt respect you because you dont bring anything to the table. If you do, why the fuck are you doing deals behind his back? And it’s a shit deal anyway, which is why Joe’s gonna speak to the same people about the same deal himself 💀
@@afnanbogey This gotta be Joe burner account. Cause ain’t no way you know all this information and can speak for other people unless you was there. Aye Joe are you going to all about the Kanye drink champs interview on the next pod 👀.
@@afnanbogey aye joe are you ever going to reply to Eminem on a track.
Mecca rolling his eyes over the XXL magazine back and forth 😂 why is he there?
which magazine did he work for
@@BmoreClark The Source😂
and XXL was way bigger then the source, im teling you, these guys are sensitive.
He's there to go on an unwanted diatribe like he knows everything about everything
@@onmyway2yob_tchhouse facts like nigga don’t know everything but swear he does
Who remembers the original Eastsidaz group with Snoop, Crooked I, Techniec, and Lil C Style? They had one song "Feels So Good" produced by Battlecat that came out years before the "official" version of the group Tha Eastsidaz with Trey Deee and Goldie Loc.
They got off shady for nothing lol
thats what jowll n crook got for tryna please joe
They got off bad business? Maybe
Ego is an antidote to success. Many great things can be accomplished if one choose to put ego aside. I've saved many friendships over the years by doing that and later those same people acknowledged me for bringing everyone together.
FINALLY!!!! WHAT WE'RE *ALL* WAITING TO SEE !! STR8 FROM THE HORSE'S MOUTH !! #CrookAndJoell the GOATS of this rap shit!!
How much was it? 😭😭😭 Math be asking them borderline questions
It’s about basic communication. Let’s have that conversation. If you’re not in it anymore, say that. Ambiguity leads no where. With Crooked and Joel
Understand why Crook & Joell felt disrespect coming from Royce & Joe, if I'm bringing in a massive opportunity that can benefit everybody and I'm not getting no responses from a member of our group is not responding He getting left behind. No more way I'm waiting 11 years for someone to come back
So what? Move on and make your own quality music. They could go still go down as a legendary duo if their music is good enough!
@@rockwild737 didn’t they do that?
@@phantomface9211 No, they didn't move on. They made an album bitching and moaning about Joe and Royce which took away from any potential they had to make great music. And the music wasn't great anyway.
@@rockwild737 Yeah... that was the album that dropped back in March, "Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse" (and tbh the title tells you what to expect). Less than 6 months later they _moved on_ and dropped a 2nd album just last month called "Harbor City: Season One."
You caping for Joe says a lot about your character 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Yo Math, tell Crook and Joell they should flip the brand name to HOUSE OF SLAUGHER and move forward with both the music and the record label! Onward and Upward Kings! Peace and Positivity to You All...
the moment we’ve all been waiting for
No the moment Joell and crook been waiting for. They loving the pub they keep Joe in they mouths
Yep
Ong
@@PardonMyPresence -one of Joe’s girls
Whos watching Joe responding next??
Crook & Joell keepin it real
💯
Facts
False ……
truth prevails! their story has never changed and you can see them speaking from the heart
@@AbsoluteApril facta
This is Rory and mal all over again lmao
thank you lol
and Joe is still a sucker
2.0 🤣 people only show interest when they say Joe name. Smh move on that situation is what it is
Really this was before rory and mal though
Except Joe Budden is trash and Crook a better spitter than any rapper out now
Damn I feel bad for Crook this shit changed my mind
Joe really is the problem here. He’s a narcissist. He never wants to give the picture from all angles. I do agree the shady deal was wack and the whole sound they were attaching to that album was wack because they’re not that. But he’s still wrong for not just completing the contract and moving forward
No real artist who has a passion for what they do is just going to put out some bullishit ,to make someone else happy. Especially when the business is bad. Respectfully 🙏🏽
Was it really wack though??? It was more commercial than we wanted but that's what happens when u sight to a major..... the needed radio play and Em put his all into trying to help these dudes get big... lost money and didn't care.... everyone respected what em did except joe..... Joe is the bad situation for slaughterhouse..... in reality Joe was jelly Royse and Em put out bad meets evil and Royse was blowing up outside the group
@@joshtassie9478Facts! Preach it Louder for those in the Back!!
Math and his team acting like they didn't notice how joe and royce was being disrespectful
its what i noticed about these guys, love the guests they have on, but they play sides, poke the bear by asking certain questions, when someone tells them their side they will disagree like in this clip lol some boys never grow up i guess, and where is Esso?
Mecca got amnesia. The entire crew sat up there with Royce and said these 2 were doing it cuz they needed the money.
Glasses never pushed back versus Joe and Royce that’s the problem. That’s why I’m glad math had these guys on. Two sides to the story. I loved that Crook checked glasses! Crook made logical valid points to his argument about the money and the XXL cover.
From the beginning of this whole interview you could tell Joell seemed irradiated at math and crew. I don't blame him they were all dick riding royce.
@@truthspeaker4ever he didn’t check anyone all he said was his feelings were hurt cause there was a narrative that they was doing it for the money ; they like 40 caring about social media narratives grown the hell up
That’s why I don’t respect his opinion. He was leading the charge against Joell and Crook then changed his tune. He acts like he knows everything from every clip I see reality is he doesn’t know shit.
About time you start uploading Parts, way. Cleaner bro 💯🍻
Narcissist don't feel they need to explain or be around you to avoid the situation..There is more power in keeping you on a hook
Hella props for this clip here. It provides SO much depth into the history of slaughterhouse. It adjusted some one my lenses on the whole situation. Good job 👍 keep it trucking
Let's be real. If the fourth man was anybody else other than Joe, they would still be a group
Esso did a lot of talking, he should've been there, no getting around it...even if it was to patch things up, or gain clarity
Facts!!!!!!
Joe just stuck on himself, and I think everyone knows that. Respect to Crook & Joel for keeping it 💯
Much love to Royce too, cuz I think hes just caught in the middle and needs time to process all this correctly. Hope they can make peace with it, and God willing maybe they’ll be on tracks together again.
Joe not stuck on himself...he's trapped into the devil's agenda in hip hop!!! He gotta report to Diddy....that should tell you something
Not happening
I wish Slaughterhouse’s story didn’t end like this. Wish Joell and Crooked the best their duo projects have been dope. Good seeing them on Math but nothing new shared in this interview.
Big fan of all room MC’s. Been rocking each of them before they formed Slaughterhouse. But I do agree. It shouldn’t take 10 years for a group to make music. If Joe didn’t like the offers then Joe should of out more effort into finding offers they liked. But in music history the most iconic group never last and that is part of the legacy.
Yeah and Royce saying Joe didn't explicitly day he didn't want to do the deal. If you know Joe is aware of the deal and Joe doesn't say anything, it's obviously assumed he's saying no. Plus how does he expect to get more details about the deal or adjust it if he's not willing to speak?
Or go fully independent and stop worrying about a deal
I feel the same way about how Mike Shinoda did Styles of Beyond in Fort Minor
Tell him, Joell 🤳 😂
Why it always sound like it’s raining in the background
Being a lyrical curator, this group was major to Detroit cats.
I'm from Detroit too, and I would say they was major to us people that was into BARS & great content.
Thank you, for having Joell & Crook on the show to correct y'all.
I know this is not about the lox but that's why you gotta respect them. They battled Roc a fella, G-unit, won the Verzus battle against Dip Set and they are still together.
My favorite group.
Ortiz look like j.cole if he didn’t stop eating
XXL was the biggest urban magazine at the time.
Was waiting on this
Yeah Mec....a lil push back is good for the culture because Math caught his wave and he will go full NORE in a minute. I can't watch drink champs.
*Is* *that* *Esso* *Running* *by* *the* *window* @2:45? 😄
The bottomlime of the situation is Joe never wanted to come back and rap no matter what he said. His podcast took off and he was and is making more money then he ever saw in rap. Why would he leave that to go back to splitting money 4 ways. Joe should have just come all the way clean. Seems he was misleading them , had them thinking he was down and never truly was. Either that or he wanted the whole situation to be on his terms and his terms only. He may have felt a way about Crook taking the lead and initiative to bring deals to the table.
Griselda doing what Crook wanted slaughterhouse to do
arrogance vs humility
What I love about Math's show is everyone is in their right mind when they speak their truths. That's not to suggest that I don't enjoy the shows with the booze and bud (because that brings out another sort of truth), but this show is one of the few standouts these days. Good work 🙌🏿
And, Joe...👀 Do better, brother. I'm surprised at Royce.
There is nothing like his truth, her truth, your truth or their truth. There is only one truth which is The Truth. The problem is, people talk about the truth of their situation from their own perspective. That doesn't make it that person's truth. It is their perspective of the truth. They don't own the truth
Okay now we getting to the meat of the matter ,people wanna know these things because if y’all don’t speak up they’ll run with Joe and Royce narrative
Royce and Joe seem to love to causing problems for themselves
I didn’t even realize it was over 10 years since that Slaughterhouse record dropped! I played in this basketball tournament with my stepdad( God bless his soul) and one of my homies and we named the team Slaughterhouse because of these guys. Always been a fan of Joell. Shouts to Cooper pjs. Crooked keep doing your thing man. The people gonna feel you
I totally agree with King crook that middle man s*** is not the move it's totally disrespectful.
The problem with Joe is his ego. Joe felt he was on Eminem's level when he was not... That's why he couldn't be on Shady....
Royce watching this clip, with that damn straw still in his mouth.
Anybody that doesn't want to place ANY blame on Joe... please... look at his track record when it comes to business deals and even personal relationships.
Jay... Def Jam... Amalgam Digital... Ransom... Shady... The JBP... these are just off the top of my head. How many relationships does a dude need to fuck up before you start to notice a pattern?
I fuck with Joe. I still bump Mood Muzik 1 - 4 til this day. I been a fan since the Clue tapes. But if we talkin about Joe AS A PERSON.... come on now.
Bro this guys with glasses is shady af. Getting on my nerves.
Lol dawg this will never end
u not lying hahaha
You don’t think they should able to say their peace after Royce went on here talking crazy? 🤔
Did you you this when Royce was on the show? If not stfu
@@khristianpeel7165 they need to be able there truth
@@khristianpeel7165 Royce was just answering the questions from his perspective just like Crook & Joell are doing..
Man this was needed
Not gonna lie math be asking some weird ass questions sometimes
Facts
All the time
😂asking the irrelevant questions jus to feel relevant for 4 seconds
Perception is key. I've had similar issues with associates. Joe could perceive it the exact same way. Listening to all sides all I hear is egos getting in the way
Brooklyn Hanz in the cut 💪🏾
Joel Ortiz is tight tru this whole interview & he can’t even hide it 💯
Harbor City (S-1) is gonna be a Phucc'n Classic!
“How can you make the most money in your life splitting it 4 ways?”
Royce never said they was broke he just ran with the hypothetical that Esso put out to answer the questions.👀
The comments section is why putting things in public makes it a mess. There’s a lot of ppl speaking about men that they don’t know analyzing a situation they aren’t apart of and weren’t there lol
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What happened was that Royce and Joe went into different lanes and bags. They didn't care as much anymore. Joell and Crook have money and live comfortably, anyone with a half a brain can see that. They literally just wanted to rap and have the group cemented as all time legends. People don't get how this whole thing became a massive "what if?".
S/O crook an Joel
That rise an fall of slaughterhouse is a great album no skips!!!
I don’t like picking sides but i got JOELL AND CROOKED on this one, joe is a handful and Royce is loyal to Joe so that’s the downside.. would’ve been fine with slaughterhouse dropping without joe
They even tried to without Joe but Royce wasn't going if Joe wasn't
And no one closer to em than Royce so for Royce to side with Joe over them CLEARLY something is wrong. Also why didn't crook sign to shady if he was so loyal???
Same here
I believe them
I don’t believe Royce or Budden
& I think it’s mainly Budden that’s the problem
Heavy Gratitude
Stop letting cohost speak on Artist then duck once the Artist pulls up
Bro yall just need to get on a joint with em and just run the group without certain characters. Bro the fans still wanna here that!
Ppl just suck nowadays no loyalty no respect
That Allegory Thank you text was a Haymaker...definitely a dope album too
Do a tag team match album 🤷🏿♂️🤣
Lol
I'd prefer just Joel and Crooked by themselves anyway
I been a Joell fan since he opened up in 06 for Banks at BB Kings it was lit that night
Why does no one address joe saying he doesnt abide by contracts to counter his i didnt get the contract details argument
Lmao I remember a video of joe just staring into his camera in the studio while everyone else was in the background talking.
Because he sure sat right up there on that show in that barber shop pushing that narrative and you all were co-signing .. agreeing that they were doing it for a bag now the energy is totally different
That condescending shit is what got Royce neutered vs Lupe and Mickey. Royce and Bidden are two of my favorite writers but they seem like extraordinarily corny individuals.
I still think the Shady 2.0 cypher, Joe made it clear that he was done with Slaughterhouse and Shady. Just take a listen.
You mean the ShadyXV cypher
@@OliverOwen1122 yup
It's Joe the fact that Royce was going between showed that he was still trying ot put things together Joe wasn't following through. But now the house is gone..so let's see who going to do the numbers
Oh shit..here we go
Bigger than tearing anybody down 💯💯
Math without a doubt has the best interviews of 2022 👏💯👏
Agreed..he has the most important interviews of 2022
Him and hov 💯🔥should do a Brooklyn Collab king talk
fr he should win an award for that
Facts he really let in people talk