I've never listened to the podcast on Spotify all the content from the Joe Budden podcast I get has always been on youtube. I wonder how many others are like me.
Never listened on Spotify. What for? Why would I? I’m right here on RUclips everyday. I only go to Spotify for music. RUclips needs to do a deal with JBP. Or Tidal... but Tidal doesn’t have enough subscribers nor do they have a free account option which would limit viewership.
Dave Chappelle turned down 50 million Becuase integrity meant more to him than the money. Today he Is one of the Highest paid comedians. Hold on to your integrity guys, it will pay off!
Easier said than done when all you have is $20 to your name like he said, and all because he spent it all like a SIMP. He needs to stop b*tch*ng so much and take the red pill and go MGTOW so he can be in a better situation to negotiate. Dave wasnt simping until he was down to his last $20 like Joe.
Isaiah Kyuga I actually have done the same Isaiah, Twice. I had high earnings with one company and they hired an Italian person to do my job at a lower salary, then tried to force me into another position in that company, which would have caused me to have unstable earnings. I took my severance and talents to a whole new company. At the new company, I held the highest earnings on my teams for several years and led them out of financial loss and into profit for back to back to back to back years. When I wasn’t being treated right or fairly, I threatened to leave unless things changed, and they did. However my situation is completely different than that of Joe Budden and the guys over there. Joe is used to seeing an industry profit off of the creativity and hard work of people of colour. An industry who only sees people of colour as numbers and/or monolithic. These businesses abuse their positions by putting people of colour into bullshit contracts and then use that money to line their own pockets or line the pockets of people who share the same image as them. What Joe is doing is bringing awareness for others coming after him(them) to know their worth and to be PAID according to their worth, and according to what they bring to the table. The two MUST match. Especially since, the Joe Budden Podcast has been around BEFORE their deal with Spotify. Spotify did not erect the Joe Bubben Podcast. Also the biggest issue here is that the earnings Spotify was making from the Joe Budden Podcast was bringing other podcasts to Spotify. Joe Budden should be compensated for the acquisitions of those podcasts. His brand gave Spotify that leverage and power. The ridiculous part is that these companies think these tactics still work in 2020. Anyone still getting in 360 deals or anything that resembles that, clearly is NOT paying attention. There has been too much exposure about this and it baffles me that business still offer this to talent. If the Joe Budden Podcast is the number one podcast on Spotify two years in a row, week after week, then the earnings and stock shares should reflect that. Spotify offering a Rolex watch rather than stock earnings to these grown ass men is not only an insult, its a con’ artist tactic. It’s like offering your kid candy if they would just keep quiet, after taking that kids piggy bank money. It’s ridiculous. If I built a product, that I was earning a living off of and someone came along and said, “I’ll give you a bigger platform and here’s what I’ll pay you for the first two years” and during those two years, my product was number one week after week, the smartest thing for me to do is investigate what those earnings are and to be sure I renegotiate my contract to be in line with those new earnings and potential earnings going forward. If that person who gave me that platform keeps moving the goal line for me to earn more and also becomes less trust worthy, why would i or anyone for that matter, want to remain in business with someone they cannot trust?? The money is not worth the stress, especially if it’s a product that I , created. I will take my business elsewhere. Companies and Brands do this all of the time. I pray from this situation, people will learn to pay attention to their business, their earnings, never sell themselves short, and not be con by big business.
@〔TFGG〕 how about you learn how to articulate yourself properly and don't address anyone unless you have something credible and pleasant to say. You sound like you lack education.
@@KWU_369 Educate yourself. No system is perfect, but capitalism has produced the most prosperous, privileged & egalitarian nations in history. Joe & JBP crew are direct beneficiaries of our system & indeed are examples of the American Dream, showing that Inspiration + Perspiration = Success
@@scarlet8078 I am aware of the benefits of capitalism but I also know that pushing for less regulation and attempting to get closer to pure capitalism with weakened social programs is unsustainable. Everyone in the world wants to live like Americans but the planet doesn't have the resources or capability for our excess. It's not profitable to forsee the negative societal effects of a business and do different.
Say what you want about Joe, but I appreciate the fact that he understands his value & has no problem sharing that with the public. He's leading by example and giving us the game. Much respect. 🙏🏿
All y’all need is the people fellas , this was free game y’all put on display , everything isn’t about the money , we gon support y’all in whatever journey this pod takes next !!
@@sheltonshort7052 no you wont,that's why the NBA players will cut this protest quick ,and get back to playing number 1 China runs nba ,and like podcast or music,we as a group goes as a froup,tidal is afloat but getting ran over cause the industry wants to kill it off and push the more lucrative,competitive business to control the market,this is stronger then your support
This is why I love JB and something I’ve learned over my time at my current workplace. I also know about putting your foot down when people try to lowball you. I also got to learn how people move once you recognize your worth. I’ve made many enemies in high places because of me not selling my self short. They won’t touch me because I know I’m worth more and for the time it’s a mutual I do my thing and you do yours but if it ever came to them wanting to get me out they would in a heart beat. The great thing though is I’ve already recognize I can do more outside than we’re I currently am and regardless I will thrive. Sometimes you have to see how unfair the game is to those that play fairly, meanwhile those that learn it, get their weight in gold, know your worth Kings and Queens!
i wish i could take your comment blow it up, put it on a billboard and place it outside spotify HQ. can i put this on my twitter. it really resonates with me lmao
I really respect Joe for how he's speaking out and how intelligent he is. I respect how he countered Charlemagne without beef. He had some jokes but he was not disrespectful at all. This is black empowerment. Joe has matured so much.
When Jimi Hendrix died, his estate wrote 250k checks to his 2 band mates. They took it. Since then, 8 tracks,records, cds, blurays and streaming have all came to be and they don't see a dime. Know your worth.
Do you know how to calculate for inflation? That’s over a million back then. Not to mention it wouldn’t be commonplace for bands to own much. Not that hard to figure out that it was a good deal for them. They were the band. Not Jimi.
“Everything was cheaper then so that was a lot of money.” Y’all are correct. 250k back then may have secured a nice life for them. Having pieces of that catalog could’ve taken care of generations after them though. Were they stupid for taking the deal? Not at all. That being said, a pretty picture can be created from a small piece of an even more beautiful painting.
This is important for all content creators & entrepreneurs!!! Can’t give in to the first big check you get offered!! Gotta know your worth & trust your gut! Thank you Joe & the boys for the insight & work, the fans can’t thank y’all enough
Krulos ive been watching joe building his online brand since 09-10 on youtube & blog tv. Sure he was a rapper but there weren’t many rappers vlogging/streaming online like that back then & he eventually built his pod up to what it is today....i dont see why he all any of yall shit 😂
@Mr. Marshall They are not on Spotify. He is talking about how they are number 1 on Spotify, not all podcasts. Second how are you gonna tell him how much his brand is worth? You’re on the outside looking in.
Listen man I just wanna pay homage cause most people wont appreciate how powerful this is until you're gone... this energy is greater than any protest or hashtag... this is power... if everybody had this same spirit inside them in every industry they operated in, we would quickly return back into our rightful position in the ways of our ancestors... this entire society is built off our backs... from the labor that financed & built the infrastructure... to our ancestral teachings & artifacts that were stolen by these current nations in power... to the inventions & the raw talent that gets monetized for billions and trillions... to our ancestral homelands that get pillaged by the world powers for resources & raw materials still till this day while the natives suffer and have to flee to foreign nations for opportunity .... to our music that gets monetized for trillions... also the brain drain caused by our best & brightest going to work in these companies where they get monetized and underpaid.... combine all these things & you'll quickly realize why we struggle as a collective... you're a revolutionary bro... you're a legend.... you're gonna live forever... I'm 24 and this is motivation... the young brothers are watching... we laying low in the cut gathering knowledge and resources.... keep fighting the good fight bro... its much appreciated
@@tevinvezina1766 not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.
@36 Freeze not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.
@@kazquillo essentially the ad revenue generated from one popular podcast is used to make other desirable acquisitions, that's what he's saying. Not sure if it's accurate but that's what he's saying.
CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY A BILLION?? 😂😂 obviously you're exaggerating but we really don't know what they offered Joe. From what he said it was more than he had ever seen in his lifetime.
This segment made me cry tears of gratitude and happiness for this podcasts foresight... you can’t put a price on what the JBP has brought into my life... they deserve everything 😭
Appreciate the knowledge you've been kicking over the years. As a creator, knowing your value and what you bring to the table is the most valuable asset
poetmm no they offered 8... 1st it was 7 figures now 8. If they offered 9 I’m sure he’d sign but he also not giving up his teams rights as well. He/they deserve 9 tho. I’m sure their bringing in a billion. Give him/them 10 percent.
@@darrellanderson7445 facts!. I'm sure they have tons of concepts that he can produce for a good contract . They even joked about parks having his own cooking show I'd imagine with rem and chairsey . Rory and baisly sounds like another one , mal reviews could be another basically like aks shows , pull up , pod , live shows another . Like Joe said he's a walking proof of concept that's worth 9digits for sure
I like when joe talks buissness because his kind of a rare find ,getting to hear insights from a person that is intelligent but dint do the school thing(incremental progression with a degree at the end) thats important and usfull understanding the utility of knowing your value and corretly batering for it is a skill that should be taught and this guy discusses it freely
@@henrybriley1334 Well he wasnt complaining 2 years ago, when he signed the deal and was walking around with the fedora hat and the big ass chinchilla coat.
Nah this is toxic energy.. joe is an awful business man... the guy signed a contract and then wanted to get out of it a few months in what kinda loser shit is that
Joe still thinks this is 2006 having a hip hop podcast is going to get you maybe thousands of views hip hop is not the dominant genre of music it once was. He is never going to attract new listeners by doing a 2 hour podcast twice a week he should of signed more diverse podcasters under his show. Or created multiple podcasts. He claims to be the podcast og but he doesn’t realize the new wave is having multiple podcasts.
Comedians are eating like crazy based of podcasts because they all collab and have like 3 different podcasts. Plus ppl tune in to hear a difference of opinion or a debate half the time Rory joe and mal share the same opinions how is that interesting
@@NoDDinOuTMeLoDy where did you get that info from? Hip hop is still the #1 music genre do your research. You are definitely not from the hip hop culture or community. The hip hop culture brings in billions of dollars still to this day. Joe is not letting the culture vultures eat off of him or own him anymore. Agree to disagree respectfully
I never really cared where this podcast ranked. We just want the energy and laughter we get every episode. Spotify really had the nerve to know what YOUR audience would do?😂 where ever yall go thats where WE’RE gona go
Wow, Spotify tried to offer the Black Company a sucker's offer thinking they would say "Thank you" and not renegotiate and try to maintain their ownership.
@@TrinidadSuperman People with MBAs fail a bunch too. Failure is necessary. I think people who drop out of school respect credentialing and degrees too much. There's a lot of dumb people out here with MBAs
No he's not good at business, thats why he was a rapper. That's the point he's making, he's finally starting to learn the tricks & trying to share it with people.
If Joe would have went to school he would have known how to make a good business deal based off streams and sells etc before being scammed by the industry. It took him 20 years of getting f-cked over before he got here. Compared to a 2 to 4 year business program he could have done online -
Proud of yall fr. This is a power move. • Know your worth • Demand your value • Remain in abundance Yall been pioneering & trailblazing, and have continued pushing the culture forward. Keep growing. Thank you for sharing game.
They need to fr do the membership thing on here. I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't mind paying $5 a month for the content we get. Especially when you get the podcast, cartoons, and the pull ups. Throw in some master classes and some kinda BTS stuff like engineering with parks or whatever and they got a whole network
Gtfoh. Go get an onlyfans or some bs. Always looking to make money off of the FREE CONTENT you’re willingly putting on youtube. You want ppl to pay for it then stop putting it out free
The dope thing about this, is he's telling independent folks to know your worth. Then on top of that, making sure that his crew around him, flourish along with him. And I only mention that because I'm listening to this thinking the same way he's watching out for the JBP Boys. He tried to do w/ AK as well. Continue feeding the soil
My third time watching this episode. Joe is a brilliant story teller. But Mal, Rory, and Parks provide the energy that makes it electric. He’s not like this in his other jobs. They have great chemistry. It would not be the same if he were alone. He needs a balance. 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Its ironic how joes says we can all look at a house from the outside and say its beautiful, but we dont know until we go inside the house. Well joe, its clear why you refused to let rory and mal inside the house. Clown
@JBcoolbreez Master P shares a story about turning down $1M early in his career in Solange's seminal album, "A Seat at the Table". I am not suggesting I know more than Joe because I haven't made my millions. I am sure Joe knew they were undervaluing his podcast, but alas, black people are put into that same position at every socioeconomic level. It's expensive to be broke.
c He always was. The reason he went to Spotify was to learn and to get the analytics/data. They lied to him. This happens all the time, unfortunately. But he honored his contract
Say what you want about Joe but there is no denying the foresight and tact this man has. He's doing groundwork for soooo many future (and present) creators. 🙌🏾
I'm an attorney but this isn't legal advice; just an observation. I think JBP has it right - they are in the pillaging business and they're unsure of how long the gravy train will last. They've diversified since onboarding his podcast 2 years ago and financed other deals in the content/listenership direction they chose which cater to the masses -- while JBP would be considered an "urban" niche listener/viewership. Within 6 months of outperforming the contract, they attempted to open negotiations on an extension but realized he wasn't a pushover by summarily rejecting the offer. My Professional Responsibility professor in law school referred to this as the "Sweet Pimp." They then began a string of broken promises, moving the goalposts on bonuses, and pushy behavior to keep the gravy train going for the duration of the contract, even enlisting BS to cold call for them to resume podcasting during the pandemic when his father was gravely ill from COVID-19. Again, my professor referred to this as the "Gorilla Pimp." When you are used to devaluing and underestimating a certain segment of the population, certain implicit biases come into play, including the propensity for low-balling and lack of equity sharing. Clearly, JBP believes they have brought in 9 figures or at least $100 million by virtue of their continuous #1 ratings, not to mention Time Spent Listening (TSL) and audience/customer experience (SAI). However, they are playing hardball, withholding important performance data with the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse, and attempting to force JB to negotiate in the blind. He therefore has to extrapolate to determine his value -- at the very least 10x what they offer. I applaud the team for sticking together and betting on themselves. Contract with multiple DSPs and maintain ownership and creative control of your brand and content.
Im supporting Joe wherever he goes 🙌🏽 I’ve been listening to this podcast weekly for the last 3 years, and it makes me happy that it ain’t going anywhere! 💯
I canceled my premium Spotify a couple of months ago. Heard they don't treat black women right. It was a wrap for me after hearing that info. I believe everything Joe is saying. Glad Joe knows his worth. He's giving us free game!
Cuffing or just do what Shultz and a lot of smaller podcast do and just have a patreon... I’m sure thousands of people would sign up if it was like 5 dollars
Other than Dame Dash I haven’t seen many talking about how the industry works down to the details. TLC/Left Eye dropped info on points on a CD but those days are over. First time I started listening, this is the first show I’ve listened to, this is good content.
Aye Virgo Joe.... you don't know how much I appreciate your personality dawgie. Like so many people are late fans because it took them forever to realize how genuine you were. In their eyes you were just a rapper but now you actually get to talk and show that Virgo soul. Enjoy your Birthday tomorrow because I'll be turning up on September 8th.
As money came in from a of you guys hard work, they were immediately spending the predicted earnings on Bill Simmons and them other 2 guys I've never heard of that you mentioned 🥴 😂🤣 at the other 2 ppl we never heard of with big extravagant names.
Hurricane9146 charlamagne has been basically hating on Joe ever since he agreed to do Complex. He said Joe would ruin it. After Joe left that show look at all the things he has accomplished. CTG was apart of some of those things... while still hating. Soon as Joe left Complex, here comes charlamange saying, “see I told you he would ruin it”. When Joe’s podcast went #1, CTG was hating on the breakfast club while his podcast brilliant idiots wasn’t as popular. People started saying Joe was basically replacing CTG in certain aspects. Now, Joe is leaving Spotify and who’s the first to give their opinion/hate on it?... Charlamagne. Today they talked about Joe on the breakfast club. Watch how Joe levels up once again because he knows his worth. Why does CTG continue to hate from afar? If he’s so good where he is, why is he always hating? Besides all that, CTG didn’t even listen to this whole segment before he made his comments in the first place. It’s clear he didn’t even know the points Joe clearly discussed
Im sitting here rewatching this in July 2021 and just 3 minutes into it im sitting here wondering "How did it get so messy with Joe and these two gents", they seemed so tight and genuine with each other.
My brother I’ve never heard of you before. I learned of you when your name was mentioned in a podcast. I must say I learned more in just a few minutes than any other podcast I’ve ever heard. God Bless You Bro great Job.
I've never listened to the podcast on Spotify all the content from the Joe Budden podcast I get has always been on youtube. I wonder how many others are like me.
Me too, but Spotify is rolling out video too now. Something to do with Joe Rogan IIRC
My sentiments exactly, brother...not ONE TIME, have I gone to Spotify...
Never listened on Spotify. What for? Why would I? I’m right here on RUclips everyday. I only go to Spotify for music. RUclips needs to do a deal with JBP. Or Tidal... but Tidal doesn’t have enough subscribers nor do they have a free account option which would limit viewership.
same here
McDonald's Big Mac definitely me
Dave Chappelle turned down 50 million Becuase integrity meant more to him than the money. Today he Is one of the Highest paid comedians. Hold on to your integrity guys, it will pay off!
Exactly
Easier said than done when all you have is $20 to your name like he said, and all because he spent it all like a SIMP. He needs to stop b*tch*ng so much and take the red pill and go MGTOW so he can be in a better situation to negotiate. Dave wasnt simping until he was down to his last $20 like Joe.
Isaiah Kyuga I actually have done the same Isaiah, Twice. I had high earnings with one company and they hired an Italian person to do my job at a lower salary, then tried to force me into another position in that company, which would have caused me to have unstable earnings. I took my severance and talents to a whole new company. At the new company, I held the highest earnings on my teams for several years and led them out of financial loss and into profit for back to back to back to back years. When I wasn’t being treated right or fairly, I threatened to leave unless things changed, and they did.
However my situation is completely different than that of Joe Budden and the guys over there. Joe is used to seeing an industry profit off of the creativity and hard work of people of colour. An industry who only sees people of colour as numbers and/or monolithic. These businesses abuse their positions by putting people of colour into bullshit contracts and then use that money to line their own pockets or line the pockets of people who share the same image as them. What Joe is doing is bringing awareness for others coming after him(them) to know their worth and to be PAID according to their worth, and according to what they bring to the table. The two MUST match. Especially since, the Joe Budden Podcast has been around BEFORE their deal with Spotify. Spotify did not erect the Joe Bubben Podcast.
Also the biggest issue here is that the earnings Spotify was making from the Joe Budden Podcast was bringing other podcasts to Spotify. Joe Budden should be compensated for the acquisitions of those podcasts. His brand gave Spotify that leverage and power.
The ridiculous part is that these companies think these tactics still work in 2020. Anyone still getting in 360 deals or anything that resembles that, clearly is NOT paying attention. There has been too much exposure about this and it baffles me that business still offer this to talent.
If the Joe Budden Podcast is the number one podcast on Spotify two years in a row, week after week, then the earnings and stock shares should reflect that. Spotify offering a Rolex watch rather than stock earnings to these grown ass men is not only an insult, its a con’ artist tactic. It’s like offering your kid candy if they would just keep quiet, after taking that kids piggy bank money. It’s ridiculous.
If I built a product, that I was earning a living off of and someone came along and said, “I’ll give you a bigger platform and here’s what I’ll pay you for the first two years” and during those two years, my product was number one week after week, the smartest thing for me to do is investigate what those earnings are and to be sure I renegotiate my contract to be in line with those new earnings and potential earnings going forward. If that person who gave me that platform keeps moving the goal line for me to earn more and also becomes less trust worthy, why would i or anyone for that matter, want to remain in business with someone they cannot trust?? The money is not worth the stress, especially if it’s a product that I , created. I will take my business elsewhere. Companies and Brands do this all of the time.
I pray from this situation, people will learn to pay attention to their business, their earnings, never sell themselves short, and not be con by big business.
Michael Francis Tapia hello my MGTOW brother
@〔TFGG〕 how about you learn how to articulate yourself properly and don't address anyone unless you have something credible and pleasant to say. You sound like you lack education.
"....everybody isn't coming to feed the soil, some are just looking to take the fruit!"
ok joe! come through with the word 👏🏾
Capitalism is unsustainable in its purest form. It is possible to take so much that all that's left is despair.
@@KWU_369 Educate yourself. No system is perfect, but capitalism has produced the most prosperous, privileged & egalitarian nations in history. Joe & JBP crew are direct beneficiaries of our system & indeed are examples of the American Dream, showing that Inspiration + Perspiration = Success
@@scarlet8078 Mothers dying in the cold show that it's outlived it's usefulness at this point
*pick the fruit
@@scarlet8078 I am aware of the benefits of capitalism but I also know that pushing for less regulation and attempting to get closer to pure capitalism with weakened social programs is unsustainable. Everyone in the world wants to live like Americans but the planet doesn't have the resources or capability for our excess. It's not profitable to forsee the negative societal effects of a business and do different.
"My education is limited. My knowledge is not " - Joe Budden
Education and knowledge comes from life experiences not just the classroom.
That’s so true
U tink u can decipher this for the people in the back?🧐😅😅
Say what you want about Joe, but I appreciate the fact that he understands his value & has no problem sharing that with the public. He's leading by example and giving us the game. Much respect. 🙏🏿
But he doesnt understand his value... that's the problem
Another naive person who can’t see the bigger picture. Every deal Joe does he ends up ruining because he thinks he’s worth more. EVERY deal
Bossrah how when they offer better deals?
Hurricane9146 he didn’t ruin the deal. The deal is almost done. Nothing has been broken or destroyed. He’s playing it out then leaving
@@Hurricane9146 it was a two year deal, he literally said he completed his deal. Tell me how he ruined a deal he just completed
/honored...
All y’all need is the people fellas , this was free game y’all put on display , everything isn’t about the money , we gon support y’all in whatever journey this pod takes next !!
It's about passive participation in all the money coming in 💪🏾
Right.. create an exclusive app. We'll follow, I promise.
@@sheltonshort7052 no you wont,that's why the NBA players will cut this protest quick ,and get back to playing number 1 China runs nba ,and like podcast or music,we as a group goes as a froup,tidal is afloat but getting ran over cause the industry wants to kill it off and push the more lucrative,competitive business to control the market,this is stronger then your support
🙏🏽
REST IN POWER CHADWICK BOSEMAN
Spotify offered them a pizza party for being number one for two years.
More then they deserve their own numbers were going down maybe ppl got tired of the cringe jokes and lack of difference in opinions
Or maybe the ppl got tired of Mals holier then thou act like he thinks he is the coolest dude in the world
Smart guy lol
@ Chuck E Cheese's, but snuck the pizzas in thru the back from the pizza spot down the street doing the one topping large for $7bucks pick up only.
LeftyManolo their own numbers were going down?
This segment is worth listening to multiple times! Free game!
About a million dollars worth of game
Shane Brown lol see what you did there
Just about to say. My second time listening and im finally getting it
This is why I love JB and something I’ve learned over my time at my current workplace. I also know about putting your foot down when people try to lowball you. I also got to learn how people move once you recognize your worth. I’ve made many enemies in high places because of me not selling my self short. They won’t touch me because I know I’m worth more and for the time it’s a mutual I do my thing and you do yours but if it ever came to them wanting to get me out they would in a heart beat. The great thing though is I’ve already recognize I can do more outside than we’re I currently am and regardless I will thrive. Sometimes you have to see how unfair the game is to those that play fairly, meanwhile those that learn it, get their weight in gold, know your worth Kings and Queens!
Third run now.
spotify thinking an amy schumer podcast would blow up is nuts
Factz
i wish i could take your comment blow it up, put it on a billboard and place it outside spotify HQ.
can i put this on my twitter. it really resonates with me lmao
@Eli Empire bingo
@Eli Empire Period.
Fr lol
I pay for spotify for music.. I only listen to this show from youtube. Idk why but i like the video to go with it.
I also like video. Spotify is implementing video when Rogan launches.
Same
We like the video bc it feels like we are in the living room with the guys/team.
Video always adds engagement with presenters
They launched video already higher learning podcast has video with several others on ringer no comment section.
I really respect Joe for how he's speaking out and how intelligent he is. I respect how he countered Charlemagne without beef. He had some jokes but he was not disrespectful at all.
This is black empowerment. Joe has matured so much.
When Jimi Hendrix died, his estate wrote 250k checks to his 2 band mates. They took it. Since then, 8 tracks,records, cds, blurays and streaming have all came to be and they don't see a dime. Know your worth.
Do you know how to calculate for inflation? That’s over a million back then. Not to mention it wouldn’t be commonplace for bands to own much. Not that hard to figure out that it was a good deal for them. They were the band. Not Jimi.
I get your point but that was in 1970 not many people had knowledge about the music busness like today. Also 250k was good money in those days
La Pulga 250k was worth way more back then.. shit was cheap too don’t forget that. So he was super rich
@@bigazTV Hell yeah everything was cheaper You could buy a house and a car lol
“Everything was cheaper then so that was a lot of money.” Y’all are correct. 250k back then may have secured a nice life for them. Having pieces of that catalog could’ve taken care of generations after them though. Were they stupid for taking the deal? Not at all. That being said, a pretty picture can be created from a small piece of an even more beautiful painting.
Man all this time Rory and Mal sitting there not knowing at all what's going on and just nodding along. That's crazzzzy 😳
🤣🤣
they acted like Parks whole episode 😭
This is important for all content creators & entrepreneurs!!! Can’t give in to the first big check you get offered!! Gotta know your worth & trust your gut! Thank you Joe & the boys for the insight & work, the fans can’t thank y’all enough
Krulos ive been watching joe building his online brand since 09-10 on youtube & blog tv. Sure he was a rapper but there weren’t many rappers vlogging/streaming online like that back then & he eventually built his pod up to what it is today....i dont see why he all any of yall shit 😂
@Mr. Marshall They are not on Spotify. He is talking about how they are number 1 on Spotify, not all podcasts. Second how are you gonna tell him how much his brand is worth? You’re on the outside looking in.
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This a segment is damn near a whole episode 😂😂
I had to check the time and title, I was so confused! 🤣
Getn then 7 episodes knocked out in a week😂
Lmaoooooo I swear it is ... but imma still watch it
JBP Lite
I seen this first....... but the fish has died
I remember when Joe started on Periscope all by himself in his living room getting bitched at by his neighbors for being so loud. Lol
just reminded me to end my spotify subscription
my 3 month trial just ended lol
Spotify dont pay creators our worth in general - he doing the right thing
TANI RENEE our??? Who tf are you
Hurricane9146 indie artists are a thing lol
@@Jesterisim His slick a$$ comment got me curious to check out her channel and watch a video
Anybody double back after the blowup?
Me indeed lol. Junt is crazy
They pretty much tried to treat them like rappers with the Rolexes while everyone getting paid
This next contract is gonna be epic for Joe
18 years of getting ripped off , totally understand this response
What was the revenue that Spotify made from his podcast for the 2 years?
Listen man I just wanna pay homage cause most people wont appreciate how powerful this is until you're gone... this energy is greater than any protest or hashtag... this is power... if everybody had this same spirit inside them in every industry they operated in, we would quickly return back into our rightful position in the ways of our ancestors... this entire society is built off our backs... from the labor that financed & built the infrastructure... to our ancestral teachings & artifacts that were stolen by these current nations in power... to the inventions & the raw talent that gets monetized for billions and trillions... to our ancestral homelands that get pillaged by the world powers for resources & raw materials still till this day while the natives suffer and have to flee to foreign nations for opportunity .... to our music that gets monetized for trillions... also the brain drain caused by our best & brightest going to work in these companies where they get monetized and underpaid.... combine all these things & you'll quickly realize why we struggle as a collective... you're a revolutionary bro... you're a legend.... you're gonna live forever... I'm 24 and this is motivation... the young brothers are watching... we laying low in the cut gathering knowledge and resources.... keep fighting the good fight bro... its much appreciated
Pure facts!!!
Whose music is raking in trillions of dollars lol??
Tevin Vezina he’s saying people’s talents aka hip hop in general bringing in billions , trillions is a stretch but could very well be true
@@tevinvezina1766 not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.
@36 Freeze not debating an empty page with no profile picture.... its alot of fake pages popping up on social media recently trying to spread confusion and false information.. Google is your friend & Amazon has endless literature. Peace. Also if you skipped over the brain drain, robbery of ancestral artifacts, effects of colonization, exploitation of black talent (physical, academic, and creative) - just to focus on music revenue? yeah you trollin. haha.
I just figure it out. They were using Joes podcast to pay for the other acquisitions. It's what venture capital does.
genuinely curious . . could you explain a bit more about this
🤯🤯🤯
@@kazquillo essentially the ad revenue generated from one popular podcast is used to make other desirable acquisitions, that's what he's saying. Not sure if it's accurate but that's what he's saying.
BlaqAdam Yeah but he left out the part about how they paid Joe Rogan A BILLION DOLLARS but wouldn’t give JOE BUDDEN a quarter of that -
CAPITALISTIC SOCIETY A BILLION?? 😂😂 obviously you're exaggerating but we really don't know what they offered Joe. From what he said it was more than he had ever seen in his lifetime.
We will follow you guys to wherever. Its a celebration. On to bigger and better
Nah YOOOOUUU will
How people can’t respect Joe and his business is crazy to me.
cause they don’t watch. they know joe as the pump it up guy and only click when they think he’s hating on whoever their savior is
@@iamjp1 Right👀😍Joe is hellà intelligent!
It has been a pleasure to witness his growth. Proof that experience is still the best teacher.
Were watching Joe go through his Dave Chapelle moment. Incredible.
Spotify's stock has doubled from 2019 to date. Let that sink in.
Doesn't matter where y'all go. I'm going to support the brand.
Big facts
Respect
Word
Same
@@drewdowdeyshow 💅💋Facts🌟💯💯💯💯💯
The Joe Budden show going to win on any streaming platform. Love it
💯
Spotify is going to be hurting when they see this podcast at the top top.
Hell yea
This segment made me cry tears of gratitude and happiness for this podcasts foresight... you can’t put a price on what the JBP has brought into my life... they deserve everything 😭
Awe! How sweet ☺️
Facts!!
36 Freeze I did, because when you see a person sacrificing for the greater good, it’s a beautiful thing
Typical bs
Lmao little girl
Why do the system keep betting against Joe he always win in the long run. Just work with him and be fair he's a visionary.
I agree. His capability is undeniable at this point.
Appreciate the knowledge you've been kicking over the years. As a creator, knowing your value and what you bring to the table is the most valuable asset
"How about Queens? There's a lot of Greeks there."
Rory remains undefeated
Top 10 segment of the whole podcast
9 figures comin soon.
Fucking facts !! And retaining ips
Listen love Joe's podcast. But I don't see how he can even command 9 figures for just one podcast.Joe Rogan has a much bigger name and platform.
poetmm no they offered 8... 1st it was 7 figures now 8. If they offered 9 I’m sure he’d sign but he also not giving up his teams rights as well. He/they deserve 9 tho. I’m sure their bringing in a billion. Give him/them 10 percent.
@@darrellanderson7445 facts!.
I'm sure they have tons of concepts that he can produce for a good contract . They even joked about parks having his own cooking show I'd imagine with rem and chairsey . Rory and baisly sounds like another one , mal reviews could be another basically like aks shows , pull up , pod , live shows another . Like Joe said he's a walking proof of concept that's worth 9digits for sure
@ no way in hell they offered him 100M pluss
“Our households were in shambles no wonder Cyn left” 😂😂😂😂 JOE always gotta go too far at least 4 times every episode😂
So true lok
Joe’s a lot smarter than people give em kredit for...
This feels like deja vu....
I like when joe talks buissness because his kind of a rare find ,getting to hear insights from a person that is intelligent but dint do the school thing(incremental progression with a degree at the end) thats important and usfull understanding the utility of knowing your value and corretly batering for it is a skill that should be taught and this guy discusses it freely
He is intelligent but keep signing bad deals
victor felix he “designed” the contract he’s complaining about being in now. Joe has always been his own worst enemy.
@@henrybriley1334 Well he wasnt complaining 2 years ago, when he signed the deal and was walking around with the fedora hat and the big ass chinchilla coat.
Nah this is toxic energy.. joe is an awful business man... the guy signed a contract and then wanted to get out of it a few months in what kinda loser shit is that
Bragging about getting the Spotify bag for 2yrs now he’s unhappy and underpaid cuz Rogan. Buttons is trash
Joe really know his worth and won’t let anyone take advantage of him .🔥🔥🔥👍
Your freedom is more important than the money! Creative or otherwise.
"You can't expect the person who's been being robbed the whole time, not to rob you." -Joe Budden
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 know your worth. Know your value. Dont let other people and other organisations try play you on what your true worth is...
Joe still thinks this is 2006 having a hip hop podcast is going to get you maybe thousands of views hip hop is not the dominant genre of music it once was. He is never going to attract new listeners by doing a 2 hour podcast twice a week he should of signed more diverse podcasters under his show. Or created multiple podcasts. He claims to be the podcast og but he doesn’t realize the new wave is having multiple podcasts.
Comedians are eating like crazy based of podcasts because they all collab and have like 3 different podcasts. Plus ppl tune in to hear a difference of opinion or a debate half the time Rory joe and mal share the same opinions how is that interesting
LeftyManolo yeah they’re yes men a lot of the time
I agree but again I doubt someone will offer more he doesn’t get that many view or subscribers on RUclips
@@NoDDinOuTMeLoDy where did you get that info from? Hip hop is still the #1 music genre do your research. You are definitely not from the hip hop culture or community. The hip hop culture brings in billions of dollars still to this day. Joe is not letting the culture vultures eat off of him or own him anymore. Agree to disagree respectfully
I never really cared where this podcast ranked. We just want the energy and laughter we get every episode. Spotify really had the nerve to know what YOUR audience would do?😂 where ever yall go thats where WE’RE gona go
Wow, Spotify tried to offer the Black Company a sucker's offer thinking they would say "Thank you" and not renegotiate and try to maintain their ownership.
Joe dropping out of school at 15 is better at business than most people with an MBA
To be fair joe got scammed and failed a bunch of times but sometimes that needs to happen for you to become a sage
@@TrinidadSuperman People with MBAs fail a bunch too. Failure is necessary. I think people who drop out of school respect credentialing and degrees too much. There's a lot of dumb people out here with MBAs
No he's not good at business, thats why he was a rapper. That's the point he's making, he's finally starting to learn the tricks & trying to share it with people.
@@ItachiUchiha-lr3yr preach!
If Joe would have went to school he would have known how to make a good business deal based off streams and sells etc before being scammed by the industry. It took him 20 years of getting f-cked over before he got here. Compared to a 2 to 4 year business program he could have done online -
Proud of yall fr. This is a power move. • Know your worth
• Demand your value
• Remain in abundance
Yall been pioneering & trailblazing, and have continued pushing the culture forward. Keep growing. Thank you for sharing game.
Seems like everyone has a podcast nowadays I remember when it was just Joe Budden combat jack Juan epstein and the read
It’s great I love the diversity
Can’t forget Taxstone
Bill Burr has been doing podcasting just about longer than everyone.
Joe rogan
@Cuffing true but taxstone was branch off combat jack
They need to fr do the membership thing on here. I'm sure a lot of people wouldn't mind paying $5 a month for the content we get. Especially when you get the podcast, cartoons, and the pull ups. Throw in some master classes and some kinda BTS stuff like engineering with parks or whatever and they got a whole network
That’s smart. 👍
Gtfoh. Go get an onlyfans or some bs. Always looking to make money off of the FREE CONTENT you’re willingly putting on youtube. You want ppl to pay for it then stop putting it out free
Absolutely. 20 a month even for the same content but they see all the money? Easy decision and they deserve every penny
Genius
They not that business minded. This could have been done.
If Joe, Mal and Rory thing we're going to sit thru a near two hour Segway they are goddamn right!🔥
Every time Joe says "2 years ago" I say" A friend of mine"....🤣
Lmao u wild
🤣🤣🤣
I do it all the time.
Asked me to say some MC rhymes
So I said this rhyme I'm about to say
The rhyme was Def a-then it went this way
This is why we love this podcast. As real as it fkn gets!!!
Soon as the podcast is off Spotify, Spotify is off my phone.
I will listen no matter where you go! 💪💪
"We"? So it was a "we" 8 months ago? Go figure.
Smh exactly
You ever mess with a channel so much that you like the video as soon as you click on it. Me too. Waddup...
It’s messed up that Rory and Mal forgot this conversation
The dope thing about this, is he's telling independent folks to know your worth. Then on top of that, making sure that his crew around him, flourish along with him. And I only mention that because I'm listening to this thinking the same way he's watching out for the JBP Boys. He tried to do w/ AK as well.
Continue feeding the soil
They didn’t want to cash y’all out because they don’t respect your audience in part. I could be 100 wrong, just my suspension
you not wrong
Obviously since they thought Amy Schumer pod would blow
Makes it feel much better that I’ve never downloaded Spotify once .
I was just about it switch over to Spotify for the podcast specifically but yea nvm
Want a cookie lol
Nah but you ain’t have to sign up to dickeat so you want a cookie?
Rory and Mal quiet. Kinda proves that the pod belongs to Joe. U can see they seem uncomfortable with Joe speaking.
That listening experience part is true. I'm going to support you guys no matter what. Get Money 💵.
My third time watching this episode. Joe is a brilliant story teller. But Mal, Rory, and Parks provide the energy that makes it electric. He’s not like this in his other jobs. They have great chemistry. It would not be the same if he were alone. He needs a balance. 🖤🖤🖤🖤
Its ironic how joes says we can all look at a house from the outside and say its beautiful, but we dont know until we go inside the house. Well joe, its clear why you refused to let rory and mal inside the house. Clown
Came to count how many times he says “we”. I’m guessing by we he meant himself and Ian. 🌚
Joe, Master P told you about this in "A Seat at the Table".
PreeeeeeACH!!!!🤙🏾
He specifically mentioned that
@@FordFourD-aka-Ford4D I missed that part. Seems like he's taking it into consideration now.
@JBcoolbreez Master P shares a story about turning down $1M early in his career in Solange's seminal album, "A Seat at the Table". I am not suggesting I know more than Joe because I haven't made my millions. I am sure Joe knew they were undervaluing his podcast, but alas, black people are put into that same position at every socioeconomic level. It's expensive to be broke.
c He always was. The reason he went to Spotify was to learn and to get the analytics/data. They lied to him. This happens all the time, unfortunately. But he honored his contract
Joe can say a shit ton of words without actually saying anything
👀 that's a mad insight still.
The CNSR!!! Never know where he’ll pop up
Say what you want about Joe but there is no denying the foresight and tact this man has. He's doing groundwork for soooo many future (and present) creators. 🙌🏾
I'm an attorney but this isn't legal advice; just an observation. I think JBP has it right - they are in the pillaging business and they're unsure of how long the gravy train will last. They've diversified since onboarding his podcast 2 years ago and financed other deals in the content/listenership direction they chose which cater to the masses -- while JBP would be considered an "urban" niche listener/viewership. Within 6 months of outperforming the contract, they attempted to open negotiations on an extension but realized he wasn't a pushover by summarily rejecting the offer. My Professional Responsibility professor in law school referred to this as the "Sweet Pimp." They then began a string of broken promises, moving the goalposts on bonuses, and pushy behavior to keep the gravy train going for the duration of the contract, even enlisting BS to cold call for them to resume podcasting during the pandemic when his father was gravely ill from COVID-19. Again, my professor referred to this as the "Gorilla Pimp." When you are used to devaluing and underestimating a certain segment of the population, certain implicit biases come into play, including the propensity for low-balling and lack of equity sharing. Clearly, JBP believes they have brought in 9 figures or at least $100 million by virtue of their continuous #1 ratings, not to mention Time Spent Listening (TSL) and audience/customer experience (SAI). However, they are playing hardball, withholding important performance data with the old "my dog ate my homework" excuse, and attempting to force JB to negotiate in the blind. He therefore has to extrapolate to determine his value -- at the very least 10x what they offer. I applaud the team for sticking together and betting on themselves. Contract with multiple DSPs and maintain ownership and creative control of your brand and content.
Im supporting Joe wherever he goes 🙌🏽 I’ve been listening to this podcast weekly for the last 3 years, and it makes me happy that it ain’t going anywhere! 💯
I canceled my premium Spotify a couple of months ago. Heard they don't treat black women right. It was a wrap for me after hearing that info. I believe everything Joe is saying. Glad Joe knows his worth. He's giving us free game!
I'm telling you it's true! I work at 4 world trade and I see how they're worked,
Wherever JBP go, we go. Appreciate yall standing for something. We got yall 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
Damn, Spotify truly disrespected you and your team, Joe Budden.
Joe I appreciate you being so real and explaining this all in detail for we the people. Keep doin your thing! Jersey City!
This could very well be a moment in podcast. This right here, is a Paradigm Shift.
Y'all on RUclips tho, that's all that matters lol
RUclips pays the worst in regards to ad revenue
They won’t ever make money on RUclips
Cuffing or just do what Shultz and a lot of smaller podcast do and just have a patreon... I’m sure thousands of people would sign up if it was like 5 dollars
Dumbest comment award.
LeftyManolo the fact that y’all think this is even worth money is crazy. People talking. So stupid yet y’all pay money for the sht
Other than Dame Dash I haven’t seen many talking about how the industry works down to the details. TLC/Left Eye dropped info on points on a CD but those days are over. First time I started listening, this is the first show I’ve listened to, this is good content.
Stand for something or fall for anything 🤷🏽♀️♍️
“Mal picked something with a Beze” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I didn't know his dad passed away... WOW!!!😢🙏🏾
To all of our young youth, learn and learn from these words. These talks you might not have in the future, they are worth gold.
I've never used Spotify. I wonder how many others are like me.
Business man knowledge and game. This segment right here is day one legendary.
This is deep...my hats off to y’all for taking a stand on what’s right! ✊🏽✊🏽
This episode was a master class on business and economics thanks Mal, Joe and Rory 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 the culture appreciates you
I'm proud of the way you men are out here moving!! Some of us see it's bigger than 'entertainment' but King, this shit is entertaining 💪🏾💪🏾
This video aged weird... lol
Joe’s commitment to not getting copyrighted is f*ckin hilarious 😂
Aye Virgo Joe.... you don't know how much I appreciate your personality dawgie. Like so many people are late fans because it took them forever to realize how genuine you were. In their eyes you were just a rapper but now you actually get to talk and show that Virgo soul. Enjoy your Birthday tomorrow because I'll be turning up on September 8th.
As money came in from a of you guys hard work, they were immediately spending the predicted earnings on Bill Simmons and them other 2 guys I've never heard of that you mentioned 🥴
😂🤣 at the other 2 ppl we never heard of with big extravagant names.
Im a 50 year old white guy from the uk who loves this podcast many of my friends do to know your value my friend:)
I dont listen on spotify anyway lol i like the video 💪🏽
Charlamange just sit back and learn something...
Seriously? Char worth a lot more then joe Buddens
Hurricane9146 that’s why he saying sit back and learn something. Joe is going to come out of this with a 250 millions dollar deal
Hurricane9146 charlamagne has been basically hating on Joe ever since he agreed to do Complex. He said Joe would ruin it. After Joe left that show look at all the things he has accomplished. CTG was apart of some of those things... while still hating. Soon as Joe left Complex, here comes charlamange saying, “see I told you he would ruin it”. When Joe’s podcast went #1, CTG was hating on the breakfast club while his podcast brilliant idiots wasn’t as popular. People started saying Joe was basically replacing CTG in certain aspects. Now, Joe is leaving Spotify and who’s the first to give their opinion/hate on it?... Charlamagne. Today they talked about Joe on the breakfast club. Watch how Joe levels up once again because he knows his worth. Why does CTG continue to hate from afar? If he’s so good where he is, why is he always hating? Besides all that, CTG didn’t even listen to this whole segment before he made his comments in the first place. It’s clear he didn’t even know the points Joe clearly discussed
He sold his soul to keep his career and joe didn’t
KontryBoy706 big facts!!!!!
Joe Budden is a different type of genius. I can't even put a title on it.
SPOTIFY HAS BEEN TREATING THIS PODCAST LIKE ITS NOT THEIR FRANCHISE PLAYER SMH THEY COULDN'T EVEN GET A BONUS AFTER BEING #1 FOR A WHOLE YEAR 🤦🏿♂️
This is why Tidal needs to make a move toward featuring podcasts.
True!
This whole episode is legendary
Im sitting here rewatching this in July 2021 and just 3 minutes into it im sitting here wondering "How did it get so messy with Joe and these two gents", they seemed so tight and genuine with each other.
This whole time rory and Mal had no idea what that Spotify deal was that’s why Joe never wanted to mention the numbers
My brother I’ve never heard of you before. I learned of you when your name was mentioned in a podcast. I must say I learned more in just a few minutes than any other podcast I’ve ever heard. God Bless You Bro great Job.
I JUST RECORDED MY NEW PODCAST TODAY AND THIS OPENED MY EYES! LONG LIVE THE JBP BOIZ!
Put link in your title going forward
@@tadah21 this is the channel! We are still sorting through a couple of things but thanks for the heads up
This episode will have reverberations throughout the years to come..thank you for this 🙏🏾