Clearing The Air | The Joe Budden Podcast
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2021
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Mal: “You owe your friends respect.”
Joe: “I don’t believe that.”
That should basically tell you everything you need to know lmao
Its facts tho. U don't owe anybody anything. I don't respect someone that demands respect or anything from me just cuz we cool
@@ThisisStephennn okay Joe
@@ThisisStephennn This is a terrible take. Mal and joe are long term friends, they owe eachother respect. What long term friends do you have that you don't respect? None. Otherwise you wouldn't be friends.
@@DrGameNwatch you don't owe anybody anything, you people with this enticement shit are crazy, I choose to respect you if I don't you have the choice to be my friend or not. We all have choices and are not obligated to do anything . Secondly as long term friend mal should've showed up for joe on the pod that's why Joe said he never though mal would've left him hanging like that🤦🏽♂️
@@DrGameNwatch you still owe them nothing. Get out of your feelings. You give them respect because they are your friends. But, first and foremost you give them respect because they're a human. But you owe your friend nothing. Giving respect to your friend or to anyone is part of being courteous and being a good person. How much respect you give varies on the history, interactions and experiences you've had with the person.
My synopsis: Mal - Hard realization that business and friends don’t mix.
Roary - Understands business but didn’t think it would come to this because of friendship.
Joe - Business is business nothing personal. “So What!?”
👌🏾
Basically
No. Its thiss.
Mal. I was round u when u was broke living with me for years. I joined because u asked me to. And made nd helped the podcast grow.
Rory. Nothing to say. Just look at how joe disrespects rory and says shut up rory all the time. And say i wont let a person like u talk to me like that. But when rory responds the same, joe says rorys trippn theyre supposed to be friends. Bjt joe only disrespects rory and tslks down to him.
Joe. I want money. I want the status. I wanna be big time. I love this life and i will cut off my friends to keep the money for the moment going.
Moral of story. Joe should kno money and things dont last forever. He takes his rap career failure and overshoots everything. I see a fake dude in joe. That want attention and is delusional.
Bingo
@@bbkingme8831 LOL no. Original comment is correct.
Fun fact: I actually tallied it up and mal said respect 232 times during this episode. Mad respect
Fam lol PLEASE tell me just threw that out there nd u didn’t seriously count
@@Jaxon_FG24 🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao
“That’s crazy”
Damn, the amount of deflection, projection and contradiction from Joe is wild. I thought he was a sensible guy, but ego and emotions got him ignoring logic.
if you ever listen to Joe he always been that type he speaks really well what may sound like apology for him owning up sometimes be deflections
False. Rory and Mal are actually the two insensitive ones and obv they were plotting for a min. it’s easy to lead someone to act a certain way and then “call” them out for the action that you created.
When did y’all think he was a sensible guy? Lol have y’all not been following his career? Dudes been a maniac
@@ishort8401 My thoughts have nothing to do with Rory and Mal, so you can save the chat about sensitivity. Listening to Joe, he was talking like he doesn't value honour or loyalty.
@Joseph Brandon you’re right. He’s literally ALWAYS been this way. Joe Budden pretty much created the love and hiphop culture with all his internet drama. He is literally one of the first to be a celeb and have his drama continuously aired out on social media. We know too much about Joe to ever think one day he’s going to wake up a mentally and emotionally stable man.
Joe never forgot how mal & rory laughed when Jay said "SO WHAT" to him in public. Seems like he held on to that embarrassing moment and patiently waited for an opportunity to say - through his actions - laugh now "SO WHAT!!"
Not gonna lie I probably would’ve laughed if I was Joe’s friend LOL but I at least also understand frustration with that moment.
Right! When he brought that story up you can tell he was salty about them laughing at him.
Yep Joe the worst kind of friend....hold on to the past, then bring it up later as the excuse for his poor behavior. I couldn't be friends with Joe
No he's using that incident as an excuse to. Validate his actions and feelings towards his boys. These are mutually exclusive occurrences.
He took that personally * Michael Jordan voice
I took a shot every time Mal said “respect”....I’m currently in the ER
😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀
He talmbout respect
He didn’t say it enough🥴
Lol🤣🤣🤣😂✌🏿
ha haha ha ha
Actually shows how real Mal is.. Joe and rory joking and shit. Mal stone faced the whole time.
Mal is a real one. One of the realest out there.
I agree, he ain't no pretender.
He’s confident in what he speaks about. The other two aren’t.
Yeah, Rory was faking it for the pod, Mal was dead serious, wasn't feeling the vibe and kept it real.
@@revirdkcalb Roary was tryna keep his job Mal already knew that they was fired.
Who is back here after Rory and Mal respond to Joe??
I am!
It makes me sick that ppl still support Joe Budden! This D+ rapper now turned businessman is nothing but a black eye on black ppl. Facts! Why isn't joe being cancelled? He has blatantly stole from his friends and co hosts..he then blatantly lied about why he fired them! He then sexually harassed a black woman so why his he still on the air? Is this what you support? This is acceptable..? In my opinion it is not and he needs to go!
This shit is even more interesting to watch after watching their response. To watch how fake joe is being while they’re opening up about everything is crazy
Mal will forever be one of the realest dudes to ever walk the planet 💪🏾
Lol overpaid employees. The show was fire without them their for weeks. And started before they were added to the podcast. They don't have a brand without Joe 😂
If “Friends and business don’t mix” was a group. 😕
Joe the boss them niggas the workers
@@jean522 bro dead ass worker not partners big difference i don’t get it mal mad because Rory got sent home lol wtf
Totally off topic.. thats a fine ass avi 👀👀👀
Never
Facts 🤣🤣🤣
How do you say "this is My show!" Without saying "This is my show!"??😂
Exactly, Joe could of been way more brutally honest about this situation but because they are friends he took it easy on them. Mal out of line talking about he should of stop the pod and it’s something he help built. Hell no Joe built that shit he just took them for the ride.
Just like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@jasondavis244 man shut up
@@treybear8174 so what’s your take on this?
Or maybe you name the podcast after you lol
When Mal said he could get a bag anywhere in the world
Boy he wasn't lying😯😯😯
Was he though
@@beeeee4042 yes, he was lol
@@JonJayAllDay lol you must not know who his brother is
That bag little.
Eh! Would he get that bag w/o the opportunity, given?
Everyone knows that a person who refers to themselves in third person has narcissistic traits. Joe did this multiple times in this video. I feel bad for Rory and Mal. They finally came to the realization of who Joe really is.
I caught that too. He does it often and it’s fine but in a serious convo like this and doing it it comes off like a narcissist for sure.
@Glen Gaines Joe's been a narcissist since forever though. Glad they went their separate ways and are prospering. Hate the pod broke up still tho. I lean more to Mal and Rory than I do Joe. I knew of Joe first but I also felt I couldn't keep just giving him a pass, so to say 🤷🏿♂️ Almost like enabling a alcoholic. I just couldn't keep doing it. I tap in with Joe's pod every now and then but I can't respect how he handled this situation.
Prolly decided to replace them at that point
Lemme save y’all some time. Joe: “This my shit”
Mal and Rory: having to come to terms with it.
In a nutshell. On one hand Joe let them come back even though everyone on this thread knows the show was gonna be successful without them. On the other a fucked up way to show Rory whos runs this shit! But who should have sat who down first. They both were wrong for they way they handled their emotions. IM with Mal Friends go thru shit but RESPECT IS NON NEGOTIABLE. I love this podcast!
😆 funniest comment ever!
Thank you lol
Yep.
Pretty much!
These guys are no longer friends, they just don't know it yet.
Oh yeah, but some random internet nigga knows it OK 👌🏽
@@kaaiwilliams3629 lol you telling truth. Everyone is a damn yin yang master at human relations.
@@kaaiwilliams3629 The subreddit is worse
@@kbhaze6862 Worse than the RUclips comment section?
Damn.
Rory and Mal came into this interview with new energy and tried to move forward. It's clear joe was still in his feelings and made it awkward
Agreed!!
He came in waiting to give that “so what” story
Yeah bruh. JOE is so conceited it makes me wanna punch something.
Once joe gave his sarcastic Cool at (21:40) go look at how Mal's demeanor changes. He's been around him long enough to know Joe was on his bullshit.
That’s Joe tho. He’s emotional, unstable and arrogant. He’s a joke. Idek why people care to listen to any opinion he has. Dude can’t accept he chose the wrong lane, was a failure compared to his peers (because of his personality) and he’ll always self-destruct. Joe made everything about Joe without even once considering their feelings which sums up Joe as a person. Joe loves Joe and has blinders on for any criticism; constructive or otherwise!
Joe should of just showed them the accounting and kept it moving 😄👍
You know why he couldn’t. He was using the company’s accountant to do his personal accounting and billing it to the company.
@@shiohbandecker3643 He was definitely doing something wrong with it.
He could not show them accounting because he stole the 400,000
All facts..joe cries about def jam abusive accounting n then
...does it to his partner's
@@fixitfelix718 narcissists never want done to them what they do to other, they feel like they’re above people for whatever reasons.
Rory seems like he just wants things back to normal.
Mal seems like he's lost all respect for Joe and is just fulfilling his contractual obligations.
Joe seems like he doesn't really care what either of them do cuz he knows that he has solid options in Ish and Ice.
I can see this iteration of the JBP ending once contracts expire
No he doesn't Bc ice and ish don't want to pod twice a week. They sat in as a favor but they don't care to pod
Ain't gone lie I like Ice and Ish better.
@@FolkLoreNoName well they don't want to pod so y'all just gonna have to do with what they already gave y'all
Word
@@megmur1766 You think if Joe offers them a contract they're going to decline? Before JBP, I had no clue who Ish was and only knew Ice as a twitter troll lol. What else do they have going on that's going to give them this type of exposure?
Rory looking stressed af 😂
the stooge is back
if dealing with joe was my main source of income I'd have stress in my eyes too
@@blahblahblah9267 go listen to charla if you hate joe so much.
@@karlsylvain Joe is great to listen to because he’s entertaining, terrible terrible friend tho
lil ak buried him
I extremely miss all three of them being on the podcast together.
Yep! I watch SO many old pods going back to the 200’s (some of the very best!). Compilations too because I have been a supporter from the beginning. I watch & listen to both of their pods now, supporting them. They brought me so many laughs and joy together!
@@ifrr8337 you're not alone in your sentiments 😒
Same
Get over it.
Joe needs to get got
I have so much respect for Mal. This conversation only enhances my respect.
🤡
Joe wanted to say he’s the boss so bad 🤣😂😂😂😂
Charlemagne was right. The moment Joe named the JBP it was a countdown to this day. Joe's a rights holder and in the content game that's all that matters and Joe knows it. he could cut them in with equity but off this episode, don't see that happening.
He is though
He finally said it
Joe told Rory to take a few days off, then hit um with the “no call-no show voluntary termination policy”. Damn!!!
Few days not weeks
Fired on your day off
Well what joe did was low, you don’t tell someone take couple of days off then hit him with the no show card,
@@rachellee8755 but they took weeks off not days
@@godfatther6837 I apologise then
To come back and watch this again lol I see it differently
Joe Budden face says it all for me. He snaked his boys. He been chasing the check since Pump it Up & it finally came
Pump it up 😂
How niggas in Joe pocket who he's trying put on. They was suppose use tye platform to go get the bag. This the thing Jay-Z did, Jay didnt want niggas in his pockets. Shit Joe brung them niggas M's.
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
💯% I REALLY KNEW JOE WAS A CLOUT CHASER. I KNEW IT AFTER HE TOOK HIS SHOT AT 50. Lolol THE DUDE IS A STRAIGHT UP PAIR OF CLOWN SHOES!!!!!
😂😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯💯💯💯💯
Mal and Joe aint never gonna be the same.
I’d go as far as all three of them will never be the same, that’s why I think they shouldn’t have returned. As men they have no self respect. They returned and got put in their place for the world to see✌🏾🇬🇧
facts. This has been eye-opening for Mal. He'll never look at Joe the same. I went through the same shit with a friend. Loyalty & respect is everything.
& it’s all joes fault
MAL literally said he was upset Joe tried to replace them
These dudes in their feelings
that's a LIE , they would be much better !! Men usually don't get the chance to DETOX , this was much needed therapy for all of them . Very Healthy !!!
Sounds like Joe already had his mind set on moving forward without the guys. He knew it was over. His mind was set and made up. Been listening for like 5 years. End of an Era honestly.
I think his mind was set from the get up. He NEVER looked at them as friends but as subordinates and employees
Fr
Right! Cuz he was very disrespectful in this podcast
Mal is that you??
Joe just treated them like some random ass bitches and tried to ghost them. No respect at all.
It tells you everything about the situation when it's a text used to communicate "don't come in". That's wild within itself based on all these years, no matter what context.
So why call someone a friend if they do not owe you respect? Someone owing you something does not equate to entitlement. It’s an exchange, I respect you you respect me. Entitlement is I give nothing and ask for something.
Mal talking about "respect" sounding like Iverson talking about practice 😂
Underrated comment lol
Cadence and everything lol
Oh damn 😂😂😂
On a separate note, just off your username, you hype about 'Rurouni Kenshin: The final/The beginning'? Or you watched it already?
@@mildmayheadless5217 I just put this as my username as a random throwback haha. I didn't know a live action movie was coming out. Tbh most live action films based off anime tend to be trash so I stay away from them
@@hitokiribattousai6114 Haha, aiiight! Totally get it. It's def hard to translate the action in anime to a live setting. Thanks for the answer.
Joe told Mal the business of the pod isn't any business of his and Joe said he doesn't owe his friends respect... This ain't lasting long
Joe owns the pod he doesn’t owe Mal any explanation. Mal just has to turn up, play with his phone and occasionally have some input, tap dance for his celebrity friends and cash his check✌🏾🇬🇧
When Joe tried to reach him for 3 days then he randomly showed up to the pod to press Joe in from of parks and sayvon howd that go... I need the details of that convo because I'd prolly tell mal to same thing. It's like yo I tried to reach you but you purposely ignored me to try and use some type of embarrassment tactic. And not only are you no longer asking about rory like you claimed, you reading these comments online so you came to talk business? I thought you were the cool guy. Nothing matters because your set.
@@jayburnham3994 yeah. You can’t talk about there seemingly being no rush to fix it AFTER I tried to reach you for three days and then on your time when you feel like it, pop up tryna talk. That’s wack
@@LesRed aaaaand there is the disconnect because he was telling the viewers when the Spotify deal ended that he comes to them about business dealings... That must have been bullshit
It's definitely shaky af
It's crazy how relevant the background art is on the last real episode.
haven't listened to this pod in 2 yrs.
i'm just back for the drama
Exactly
No need to pretend she got a little bit of drama with her friends.
Fans go away sometimes they come back.
Rory & Joe seem to be near back to normal but you can tell that things between Joe & Mal will never be the same again
Jamil will be fine
I just said this to my husband the other day...Rory and Joe were always professional friends so I can see that returning with ease but Mal and Joe is a whole different story...
Mal shouldn’t have turned his back on the homie.
@@b.o.1951 he didn't, he was playing mediator & in turn Joe basically told him to back off since nothing belongs to him and he's only a part time employee. Safe to say it hurt Mal's feelings and he probably doesn't care about contributing to the show much.
“Just don’t hit me” - Joe
The saga ain’t over I still feel the tension in the air
Yep I read the room✌🏾🇬🇧
With Mal maybe
because mal is emotional
@@karlsylvain Joe is too. This isn't going to end well with those two.
Fax!
Joe is the master of 2 things...verbal jujitsu and saying a lot about absolutely nothing.
I come back to this pod for genuine entertainment purposes. You learn a lot from the moves of others. Now both parties are thriving individually. It was the best of times it was the worst of times.
Agreed. I still can't help but look at Joe a little bit sideways though. Any man who thinks he doesn't owe his friends respect won't have many good ones when push comes to shove.
@@bmc5180 Agreed. Joe has Ice & Ish on his “team” now but admittedly, Joe & Ish didn’t speak for years over something that was big enough. I’ve been riding with the JBP from the beginning but Joe can be Joe and as viewers/supporters on the outside… we can see how difficult he can be at times. I watch them separately now…
Mal and Rory: Its the respect..we're brothers
Joe: "Aint nobody came to see you Otis"
😭😭
😂😂😂
💀😭
🤣🤣
😭😭😭😂
Mal & Rory are disgruntled employees 😂
@Boy George both mal and rory have equity in the company. they're not employees
@Boy George lmao yeah Ak foreshadowed this shit for so long
Parks isn’t trust worthy his a kind voice for anyone who needs it.. smh!
The akward silence towards the end spoke volumes.
Joe really said that he’d doesn’t respect his friends. This guy wonders why the fans call him a narcissist and why his relationship fail continuously. He also told Rory to stay at home but then accuses him of giving up on the podcast and sabotage him. He doesn’t understand what the word accountability means. Joe needs to realize that he’s the common denominator amongst all these failed relationships.
That's not what he said. He said no one is "owed" respect but he chooses to do so
How he tried to make the argument that respect isn't owed amongst friends, and then turns around and accuses them of "abandoning the show." I love Joe but he is truly unbearable. When Mal said Joe told him the pod is none of his business and Joe didn't bat an eye was very telling. He doesn't respect them at all, but anything less that blind allegiance he takes personally. He absolutely is a narcissist.
@@KC-nh6be everyone is owed respect, ESPECIALLY you're friends & family.
And It's crazy that he's 40 but still hasn't realized this
You said everything i was thinking. The sad part is we knew before hearing them discuss the incident that it was Joe who f'd it up. The comments on the first 2 episodes with Ice, and Ish was majority of fans saying Joe did/said something stupid. Its his track record. He NEVER takes accountability when he screws stuff up. All he does is make excuses, or try to convince us its not him. I love the POD, but Joe has to come back down to earth. He has let fame and money go to his head. Why would you risk ppl who genuinely got your back?
This is like an episode of the Real Housewives where they have to do a reunion special and talk about the fight.
😂😂😂
Joe is Nene. Rory is Kim. Mal is Sheree.
@@Pistolwhipperz For Rory and Amal you have to name people who aren’t in the show. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😭
🤣🤣
@@JustXavier BLOOP! LoL!
At 3:55 that moan was the moan from the ice and ish drop. That means before they actually settled their beef joe already had the new tag set up.. nigga joe sick lol
Noticed that too had to run it back a few times
He played it again at 1:15:55, I always wondered if Joe did it by mistake or on purpose
@@savannahwilliams7027on purpose dude is meticulous like that
@@Goodnightsrest Just went back to watch again man, this nigga pointed to Parks and smiled. 🫠 Smh
MAL you too LOYAL💯people don’t THINK like that nowadays😩it’s EVERYMAN for they selves‼️
+laneesha1000 facts, unfortunately 💯
My mouth literally dropped when Mal said "Joe you told me this podcast aint my business " u can tell he aint wanna air that out
nigga I put the sponge down and said fuck the dishes. the water was too loud over this shit right here.
william looool
@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lhhhhhh
@@user-gd7ed1pc7h lmao
@william u a fool 😂😂
“Call him daddy podcast” Shultz 🤣🤣🤣💀most fitting title for this episode
Ayyyy Brilliant idiots gang
BI podcast brought me here! This two work for Joe, they took some time figuring that.
Schultz not funny
@I hate He hers and he him be normal yup he’s getting to the bag
Watched this after BI. Schulz was too funny but real talk mal looks weak I see Joe’s point lol
One thing I can see Mal is a real stand up guy !! You can see the hurt in his eyes !!
You can see the type of G Mal is 🏁💯
Yeah. He not here laughing and trying to joke like Rory is.
Mal loyalty gone. This just a check now. I ain’t madd about that.
Then they won’t last too many episodes like that before they implode again
I am, 30 people should starve their kids so that Rory and Mall can stay in their feelings? Everybody in the comments definitely from the hood only thinking with y'all hearts and loyalty.
@@72vince27 they forget that part
@@damian999x7 AK actually spoke the truth about these guys. Mall slept in Joe crib and Rory used to be a dusty college grad looking for a job. Joe set them up nicely, now look at them.
@@72vince27 thank you bro I just wrote a long ass comment saying some of the same stuff.
The pod cast wouldn’t have these issues if Joe would've just been honest and told Rory & Mal they’re his employees, not his coworkers.
That's not what the contract says though... otherwise only Joe signs it.. just how he sees it.
@@richiestu8223 we don’t know what the contact saids tho, I’m sure Joe owns most of the podcast & had a bigger take home pay then then both. Let’s be real Joe name brought us here to watch to watch the podcast not Mal & Rory
HES THERE BOSS. And there mad about that
@@kohhor you're either 13 or have no comprehension skills
Joe started this...they are bianco workers
Parks is Joe's lapdog
Joes silence was extremely loud 🥴😂
This episode is like trying it again after breaking up with a Ex. Should of just moved on as it will never be the same.
💯
yup
Was you and your girl making millions together? No. Than its not the same.
@@muhammedalli19 those 2 bums make like 27-30k a year. Joe pays them monthly salary.
@@deneshbm5656 nahhhh no way is that a fact 😳
This is the reason why I’ve never went to restaurants with Co-workers after work.I clock in and clock out.
I wouldn't be able to do this lol
You are a smart man. Can’t say the same for myself. 😂
Facts I did it a couple times and it was awkward
That's dumb. Someone like Mal is a valuable friend to have in your corner at work. Just sift out the Joe's who ride only for self
Some co workers are cool
Had to come back to this…I been rocking with joe for years but joe has always said he hurts people who love him…his history with friends and girlfriends shows this. Lot of pain he comes from, hope mouse he finds peace
mal - it aint about the money , we were gonna give our bonuses to the crew ...
mal - SHOW ME THE ACCOUNTING.
🤷🤷🤷
30 mins of “friends” saying why they feel disrespected.
Joe: “So what?!?!”
They work for him
@@Del_116 if he was smart he would end their employment. this episode proves they all delusional. especially mal. he literally has always added the least to the show. and rory been using jo for a come up since he met him.
@@Del_116 what does that have to do with anything?
We see all the years of therapy and working on himself still has 40 year old Joe emotionally stunted. Talking to life long friend who you lived with for over a decade and saying "you're supposed to ride with me" and in the same breath "so what!?
@@Del_116 no they don't they started the podcast together
Mal and Rory finding out how to walk in Dame Dash shoes...Joe always wanted to be the Hov of something lol
Dame dash had ownership unlike mal or rory.
@@raheemharris26 he just talking bruh Niccas say anything for a response
Except joe acting like dame.
@@raheemharris26 ownership of what
@@timbradford1673 dame owned part of rocafella. Mal and rory don't own anything
Rewatching this…aweeee man
Them boys was fina cry 😂😂
Joe was basically Franklin from Snowfall when telling Leon "I built this shit, brick by brick" in the car.
Which is dumb on his part cause he's built nothing by himself in his career. He's always had people contribute
😂😂😂😂
This got me screaming but no fr😭😭😭😭
@Mr Man everything u just named was assisted and co built by other people. Even Joe's rap career. What beats did joe make? Joe had his crew and OGs pushing his tapes and CDs on the streets for years till he got a buzz
😂😂😂 Its well documented though that he did
Money don't change people. Money makes you exactly who u are!!
Yep Joe just got tired of being the little man, his rap career labels never prioritised him over other artists, complex profited off what he built and didn’t want to pay him more. He preached about how sick the industry is and how Spotify did them dirty but the more money he got he turned into the industry people and treated his friends exactly how industries treated him.
Or it changes the people around you
@@FreeBandz658 You clearly only been around Joey for a few years. You’re stupid for saying this, joe gave them a table and brought them the fucken food when they had nothing. You are lost.
Facts.
@@mathews5276 So because someone did a kind act for you, you cant reevaluate a contract? Get real
Respect and transparency, and that’s on period
Crazy because this has always been joe. I hope, they some day reconcile even if the originals never return. Blessings to all three of them
Mal said "Respect" more than Iverson said "practice".. 😂😂😂 ... "we talking bout respect, not money... respect"
Anyone who says it's about respect and not money are always lying. Turns out these two employees was trying to audit Joe books for years.
@@CodeRed1991 to be fair that was rory
@@CodeRed1991 Rory just need to turn up to work on time and shut his mouth 😂. Mal making it seem like respect but it’s the money!
Omg yes
@@ab-xf3mh 00
My friends do not "owe" me respect BUT if my friends don't respect me then we probably shouldn't be friends and definitely shouldn't be business partners.
That's all he was trying to say. He didn't like the "owe" word.
But you do owe friends respect. Even if you don't like how your friend is moving you don't immediately start moving like its beef or you never fucked with them anyway. Its a certain way of moving and Joe just don't understand that. He's always had this problem tho
Why does it feel like I’m listening in on a private conversation 😟
It's like Joe doesn't hear a fucking word anybody is saying It's insane actually
He doesn’t lol. He only wants to hear what will benefit him or agree with his narrative. He’s shown many times in the past and now if you don’t automatically agree with what he says he’s done with you whether you’re boys family business partners whatever. He’s just destructive in every way. Manipulative, narcissist, liar and backstabber. That’s not just an opinion either if you watched joe buddens career and can’t see that you’re blind. Just another great thing on a big list that joe has single handedly ruined.
Narcissist have a special way of shooting them selves in the foot. The only time they are not shooting them selves in the foot is when they’re reloading.
@@troyperry411 don’t forget the number 1 podcaster
@@robinrobinson2354 I mean that’s your opinion you’re entitled to. I certainly wouldn’t say he’s the number 1 podcaster that’s just ridiculous lol. He might be your number 1 podcast but in the actual podcast world, hell no. The podcast was way better with Rory and mal.
@@troyperry411 he is my number 1 podcast. Complex released a list and he was number 1 on that list, initially that’s what I was referring to…yeah I didn’t make that up
I grew up with friends who had Mal mentality, and “friends” who had Joes mentality... needless to say at 40 years old only the Mals are still around as crew
I bet none of y'all ever seen a million
@@raheemharris26 don’t matter. Everybody that’s still around if doing just fine. Better that way than for one or 2 of us to be millionaires
@@raheemharris26 none of us put hands on women either since I see where you goin with this
Truth!
You don't even know these ppl, this RUclips bro
“You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain” - Harvey Dent from The Dark Knight
Joe fought so long against the industry and became that right in front of us during this segment. I love this podcast but we’re all watching these shows differently from now on. With or without Ish and Ice. This was sad to watch. “Outstanding” can’t fix this.
I was thinking this same thing.
@@devine_noise word. Nobody, with the exception of MAYBE Parks, came out of this looking good.
@@nicholasjohnson8617 parks lookin like a jellyfish to me after this
Parks said people need to get paid and was talking to both sides. What more could he do.
Joe becoming the corporate villain he "fought" against for years is really not as deep as it seems. No different than teenagers rebelling against their oppressive parents only to become the same as their parents as they get older and have kids of their own too. Or an employee that thinks he's going to be the cool boss once he becomes one and then gets smacked with the reality that being a business owner or boss has real responsibilities and shit that employees don't know about. Previously Joe was an employee. Now he's realizing that being a boss is different and not as evil as he thought. It happens when you level up.
Mail should’ve gone to work without Rory lol
Joe said “forget Rawry” 😂
Everytime Rory laughs he’s crying inside
This is underrated 😀😀😀
😂
Ruuury runts
He is embarrassed and pissed
😂😂😂
Clearing the air?????😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh air is still wild thick but I’m rollin😂😂
I might look into details too much but you can tell Joe's level of respect for rory by how he addresses dusse-paloza he brushes it off and downs it knowing rory is his "friend" and it means as much to rory as the podcast means to joe
Joe likes to bully people he knows he can bully. Salute to Mal for checking his ass and speaking facts.
Mal spoke nothing but feels
This is why you cannot mix business and friendship
Best comment of the day
But Rory does it with his friends with DP. And they make it work because they respect each other
@@pryncessdi9358 It can go right but it can also go very wrong like you see here.
It can be fine. That's overblown.
Joe taking out his feelings on the “so what” comment from Hov, on Rory and Mal is just disappointing. Did they laugh? Yea, but he should’ve said something to them later instead of waiting till now to use that. Who knows how long he been sitting on that
Or maybe tell hov why it did matter to HIM. Thats not mal and rory issue 💯
The so what part didnt even make sense . Joe is literally nothing to hov (when he took those beats)... but he n mal r close friends... what an awk comparison thT he brought up, kinda telling where his mind set is
Joe just used that as an excuse to negate from how hes behaved in this blow up. Textbook narcissist move.
1. Jay z aint a friend or owes you anything
2.if you truly felt a way at them laughing... explain why that moment was so important to you after that exchange happened. You dont sit on something that happened that you didnt like to then use it as a catalyst for your actions years later. Thats corny.
3. There's no scenario in the world where the respect level with a stranger in the street and a friend should be the same.
As friends you owe it to each other to maintain the respect level between each other IF you deem them a friend and they have earned that from the years of the Friendship.
The biggest takeaway from all this Joe doesn't view Rory and Mal as equals or partners.. so its never gonna be quite the same again. Rory and Mal need to part ways from the business side and at least try and mend there personal friendship.
Joe is soft af taking his Jayz business ptsd on his friends who helped build his brand back. Dude was a flopped rapper bum before his podcast got some real traction and landed his complex gig.
I agree with all of y’all! The line about not owing your friends respect bothers me as well, how you not gonna feel a sense of obligation to respect your friends. Joe just a hurt dude. Wish him the best tho
Looking back, when after your friends vent their frustration, and the whole time you're thinking "So What?" Y'all need to end it
They was tryn force it bond was already broken
A lot of this is coming from Joe needing to feel like he's in charge. He moving super shady and and refuses to admit his role is ruining everything. Rory and Mal are being mature and articulate in giving their points and joe just out here wildin.
Joe puts his own ego on a pedestal and he ready to drop anybody that sees him as an equal. He wants all the money and don't respect others contribution.
Sometimes Mal comes off a little naive and immature, sometimes Joe comes off a little egotistical and narcissistic and Rory comes off a bit angry at Joe for something
Facts
If Joe wanted Rory out, Mal should've followed suit. Rory may come in there and shoot up the whole studio
Rory always seems tight. I wish he was off the podcast tbh
@@theconsciousobserver6829 lmao tf kind of reasoning is that. For one thing it's parks house and Joes the one battling depression and addiction. He's just as likely to shoot up the place as Rory if that's where you're going.
Mal seemed to be the only logical one here tho
Joe's pretty wild, he said "I don't owe my friends respect" but then gets mad when Mal & Rory laugh at shit that happened years ago, then on top of that Joe said on earlier podcast episode that everyone is going to their respective corners and now he's trying to act like they just walked away
You completely misunderstood the situation because you're looking at the order in which they were said and not the order in which they happened lmao. When you actually look at the order it happened you see all joe did was keep the same energy now everyone acting like he starting it
Word, he never said he doesn't owe his friend respect but everybody is running with that.
@@muhammedalli19 he said that exactly... he point blank said no..
Talking to Joe is like arguing with yo girl nd she never wants to b wrong even tho u bring up all the bullshit she said nd she tries to act like I didn't say it or if it was said to me It don't bother me
Joe is a Ho3 at heart
@@ratchettking5925 truth
Joe talks with such “big words” & definitions and, in such a roundabout way that he loses me every time!!
HE is always right. He can’t EVER be wrong. They should have asked him if HE is “owed respect” cause it seems to me that he changes the narrative and, his reasoning for doing and, moving the way he does, when it suits HIM. He’s PERFECTION INFURIATING 🤦🏽♀️🤬 I can’t even fathom what he’s like with a woman 🙄
18:29 that's the mechanic's hustle normally 😂
Mal and rory don't know business obviously. You don't close the shop cause of a beef.
Joe told Rory not to come to the Pod and Joe was rude to Mal. He should have apologised straight away and sorted it out. It's simple. He shouldn't have texted Rory don't come. All three should have sat down and admitted the pod sounds horrible something needs to change like they did in the end. That's what Mal wanted. Why couldn't they do that? Even if it ended up with Rory taking time off at least they would have had the start of some kind of solution.
Joe is psychotic and was the one who initiated the "beef" then got mad when the guys didn't show 😂 Nothing to do with business and everything to do with ego, hence him bringing Mal laughing at him with Jay.
Mal fully lost respect for Joe, their energy will never be the same
Then why is he on his podcast if he doesn't respect him
@@emmanuelmoses7249 money.
@@rmanS2C Maybe. Although they did swear that they didn't care about money
@@emmanuelmoses7249 they have codependent relationship.
People now days need to learn the difference between being a part of something and helping it grow and ownership
When all the dust settles we’ll be able to come back and have honest conversations about how this all went down.
They gotta change them pictures behind them...those messages on those paintings have been promoting energy that has helped brought them to this point.
When I seen the art work I asked myself why? Never know maybe that's why Joe got to where he got. Thst devil worship gets spoken bout a lot in his industry
Facts. Every time I would watch i would wonder why those specific pictures and messages
You know what's crazy? The first time I saw it...I intuitively thought that but didn't really comment on it. And everytime I saw it I thought that. That's crazy you say that...I completely agree that those images and writings are helping them adopt a certain energy.
so what kind of energy does a picture of say Christ bring that so called "holy men" stand in front of but behind the scenes they're sexually abusing children or through these ultra-rich religious institutions are helping to sponsor war atrocities that kill poor oppressed people across the globe throughout history? Guess that moralist or so called righteous "god" iconography/energy didn't work on them. This "image/energy" talk just deflects blame off the individual or institutions that are truly the ones at fault for their own decisions/actions.
@@gregdodson6169 Strawman fallacy.
I respect them for coming on air and talking about their issues. A lot of other shows don’t do that even when the audience can tell it’s something going on. Cause they talk about everybody else’s shit all day lol so salute to them.
This is still where the pod went downhill. Now it’s way less fun because everyone is very aware that they need to adhere to Joe. And Joe still just views them as pions. It still has its moments but it’s never been the same.
Above all, can we appreciate why Joe even put this out? This whole podcast, SEEMS like conversations that are had behind closed doors, to keep structure of a business hidden. We’re all people, and in no way do I mean to offend, but if this can happen on a podcast, it can happen in businesses bigger than this. I’m glad to be able to see this from the viewpoint of a person who hasn’t started a business, you really appreciate the good and the bad of being your own boss.
Do you owe your friends respect?
"No."
😂😂😂🤣
Where did he say that? Where is the time stamp?
@@muhammedalli19 36:00
Bruh 😂😂 Joe is something else
I don't listen to this show very often. Maybe once every few months. But I just listened to the first 30 minutes of Mal and Rory venting their feelings, and the first thing Joe did is launch into his tirade about Jay-Z saying "So what?" I immediately cut it off.
Guys, end this shit while y'all still have your dignity. Joe did not gain the perspective from this, that y'all did. It's over.
Damn, what up Mac! Good perspective, Joe seems like he holds a grudge and hasn't matured at all from this. Better for them all to call it a day before they lose their friendship.
Fax
Agreed! It's a fucking shame too. Like Mal said, if you ain't respect the shit won't work.
One more incident and it’s over
Rory and Mal need a part ownership of the podcast
Love how Joe let mal
Speak and didn’t interrupt one time
The golden era of JBP died from minute 35
What rory said is a fact. Men gotta tlk more about real feelings instead of letting it slide into dangerous territory and blowing up.
Blowing would of been Joe smashing rory in the face with a laptop after telling Joe to meet his hands for a month on live air.
It really sounds like Mal no longer wants to be there.
LIES!!!!
FR... They all sitting mad far from each other. The tension could be cut with a knife.
He's like that every show tho
Well then why come back? He could just stay home frfr lol 😂 I’d rather ish be in his place anyway lmaooo
@Boy George ain’t nobody abt to watch that shit lmaooo
Listening to this back breaks my heart man
2 years later and Joe still looks insane.
update, I never realized how objective and insufferable Mal was until this Drake & Kendrick rap beef. If you don’t agree with him, it’s curtains. Mal & Joe deserves each other.
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Mal unfollowing joe, is insane!!!!!!