The transitions, the editing 🔥🔥🔥 I almost forgot to pay attention to the review. Good thing that was awesome too. I agree Quest 3 just has more at the moment, without the struggles with the lenses.
You simply do not understand price formation. The Vision Pro is very reasonably price for what it is while the Q3 reached that price through subsidization. The thought process here seems to be "big number not worth it, small number worth it," that's not how reasonable people consider the worth of anything.
@@r.m8146fair point. I think there are use cases that will make each headset either worth more or less to each person. Being lucky enough to try both side by side for a weeks in this video, from my perspective, I can say the Quest 3 does the main things I want which are productivity and gaming. While it’s not apple to apples, it’s close enough for what I need, that I would not pay 5 times the price for the Apple Vision Pro, despite me liking it better for productivity and entertainment.
Just curious about the resolution when video editing. I also have a Quest 3 and I love it for gaming ,but not as much for everything else. I'm full in on the apple ecosystem. I'm picking up an AVP used and trading my M4 11' iPad Pro to bring down the price. My main reason for wanting the AVP is for pairing with my 13inch MacBook Air and video editing. The resolution on the Quest using Horizon Workrooms, Immersed, or any of the Remote Desktop apps just isn't enough for me. It's simply too blurry unless I bring the windows too close. Things are legible, but annoying enough to counter any productivity gains. Is the experience much better on the AVP? I also like the idea of going into an isolated zone and zeroing in on writing without distraction. That's another bonus for the AVP. What was your experience editing?
I have done several 4+ hour video editing sessions in Davinci Resolve and even edited this exact video in the headset. I experienced that blurriness at first, but I think a combination of screen position, size, and resolution plays a big role. Is it as sharp as my 49in ultrawide? No, but it’s much larger and I can still read small font. I think internet stability also plays a big role. There are settings in the immersed app both in the headset and on your desktop client to increase the resolution and streaming quality. I have everything set to max and it looks sharp enough for the most part. Now, going into this challenge, I was actually expecting the Vision Pro to be sharper for productivity. It might be overall, but it’s not that big of a noticeable improvement as I thought it’d be. Instead, what makes the AVP feel “better” is how seamlessly it connects to my Mac, how responsive it always is, and how it just works. Every few sessions with Immersed, I have to troubleshoot why it’s not connecting or why it’s stutters. Not a deal breaker, but it’s another selling feature of the Apple ecosystem. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@paulAntill i've been using the vision pro for the past 48 hours. my mind is blown. like you said, the apple ecosystem is the biggest seller. i still love the quest for gaming, but everything else is now apple vision pro. what an illuminating experience. you're also right regarding the resolution. the clarity difference wasn't as significant as i thought it would, be it's big enough that i prefer working on the vision pro more.
The Quest 3 is better as you i mimic the Apple Vision Pro which a app called the Spatial App and it also has Apple TV+ just which a slightly lower resolution screen and the games and apps on the Quest 3 is very vast compared to what Apple offers and the Quest 3 get better with new features every single month and the vision pro doesn't and I have a headphone jack o my Quest 3 which allows me to connect the headsets audio to my soundcard and straight through to Logic Pro X as I sometimes make beats on my Quest 3 and I also use virtual instruments and the vision pro does not offer a headphone jack which Apple could of exploited if they decided to develop logic pro for the headset as its industry standard software
The lack of audio pass through seems like a BIG missed opportunity. In part, I wonder if it was to keep latency down, but I think it might be as simple as them wanting to sell more airpods? But yes, when it comes to working on projects with audio, the Vision Pro could have made that a huge selling feature.
As a meta quest 3 owner I use mine every single day for few months still a blast to play and watch movies on I had a family Member who has the Vision Pro yes it is amazing technology and more clear but 3400 is just wayyyy too much that’s the price of two Apple phones or even a car for something that most people use maybe twice a week
Great review. But both cannot be compared. Quest is really the top gaming VR device while AVP is more on productivity and media viewing. but AVP really is too expensive and I wouldn't suggest it to anyone unless they really love the immersion and use and have some spare to invest/splurge on. And I wouldn't suggest Quest either if they weren't really into games.
After watching your review I finally understand why the price tag is so high - along with the apple tax its most likely all the proprietary app developments and royalties they've had to shell out to both devs and their parent companies to create such seamless interfaces for the vision pro While the quest's short comings is that it has to use a browser and 2D optimized interfaces in order to access youtube and other streaming platforms (along with older hardware), Apple went the extra mile and a half to make sure all the main streaming services and entertainment apps were fully fleshed out. Because of this the quest doesnt have to deal with those fees and is hoping that as VR matures, other companies will handle the optimizations for them, whereas Apple, being known for their complete and premium devices regardless of price was willing to perfect virtually all aspects of the base VR experience - not a terrible choice, and would've had a better outcome for them if VR had a bigger market
There’s really no question, Apple TV+, Disney/Hulu and HBO alone make this incredible for entertainment. Sadly Quest doesn’t have anything close to this yet, and I’m not sure it ever will. You either need to use a browser, download the media, or use a 3rd party app. It’s not as easy to just find or stream your favorite content.
@@eastonbrewer1798eh. I thought this too but then I did my 2nd Vision Pro demo recently and wasn’t too impressed. Things didn’t seem as high resolution as I remembered. Quest 3 doesn’t seem so bad now
I would hope something that cost 3500.00 to something that's 500.00 would be more clear and more advanced. Which is more affordable and can be used by the masses? I'm sure I'll continue to be happy with my quest 3 and the lower cost.
Hopefully apple can make the coming versions of Vision Pro to be a lot lighter than it is now. Vision pro now is heavy, wearing it for long hours is too much work. 😅
You are totally right, the Vision Pro’s price is ridiculous!!! It has the power to run MAC OS and Vision OS but NO!!!! You need a MacBook Pro to pair with it!! I will wait five years until Apple figures this one out, hopefully by then MAC OS, iOS and Vision OS can run from one device.
Whatever you mentioned as good for vision pro is features for apple users... Which is not bad but for what i understand if you have android and windows you either spend a lot of money extra to be in the apple ecosystem or half of what you paid goes to the trash
I don't think I'm the Apple that sells iPhones.1200 Dollar Vision Pro will be made for 1000 If Apple made a $2000 Vision Pro with lighter weight, longer battery life and an M3 or M4 processor, I would buy it.
I think for it to justify the $2000 for me, I’d want it to do more than it already does. It would either need to be very good for actual VR gaming, or have similar app/program support as full MacOs, to use this as more of a dedicated laptop for “real” work. I think we’re getting to the point that it’s powerful enough, it’s just Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize their other products.
You have no idea about Quest 3, but you can throw it away. My meta quest 3 has hope and it's incredibly nice to watch movies.It's even more enjoyable than movie theaters with resolution like mirror
I have a Vision Pro and the immersive videos are sooooo worth it. Cant experience that on a quest, and the resolution of the screen is so much better, which makes it the better product to me. Now is it 3400 no but not 1,000. Maybe a $2499 if they can add live sports and concerts to it im super sold .
I have both, but I can no longer justify using my Quest 3. The AVP is significantly better, though it’s unfortunately heavy and expensive. Moreover, since VR isn’t popular with many people, it’s difficult to find a partner to fully utilize its potential, such as for FaceTime avatar calls. I believe that, anyone who had the money and could try and decide which one to buy, would choose the AVP!
The quest has better resolution capabilities and I'm fine with just watching Pluto TV on a huge screen any size you want in better quality than your 200$ + TV sets
Such a shame they made the AVP so expensive.... doesn't matter how good it is for most people.... just not a realistic purchase. Awesome to see the tech though and exciting to see where they go.... hopefully at a fraction of the price.
This might be Apple’s way of asserting themselves as the dominant premium VR player. It starts very expensive, but eventually settles on being expensive with their future releases. People have it in their mind that this is premium and worth the “expensive” price as we’ve seen how much it was when it first released, and now they’re more willing to buy one. Just a thought. 🙊
The Apple Vision Pro is primarily intended for developers to acquire and create applications for the device. Additionally, it is not yet suitable for general use, and I believe many individuals may not fully comprehend this distinction.
Apple anything sucks every phone they have ever had for sale looks and is the same as the first, it's so funny how they literally think their apple vision "pro" is so "Great" with less res output and field of view and does not play vr games
It’s true, they do think it’s great and while hideously expensive and overpriced, they’re right. I own a Quest 3 and Vision Pro. Love the Quest for its games and love the Vision Pro for its incredible media and productivity.
Apple devices are not typically associated with gaming capabilities. Consequently, a significant portion of users opt for personal computers (PCs) due to Apple’s historical stance against enabling high-level gaming on their devices, particularly MacBooks. This phenomenon is not novel.
It is imperative to cease comparing these two devices. Although they are both virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) headsets, they belong to distinct categories, and this distinction is not a negative aspect.
The pro is strictly a top of the line fancy new way to experience flat screen content. But it's all just sit on your ass media consumption and mac book productivity experiences in a fancier new way. But the Quest 3 actually takes you to new worlds to experience and actively participate, explore, and play in. It also does well at simulating real world activities. Golf/ bowling/ first person shooting/ping pong/ pool/ boxing. All without having to leave your home. PLUS it can do anything the Vision Pro can do, just with lower resolution, and less user friend UX/UI...but you can at least experience anything the AVP has to offer, just not In as amazing fidelity
@ricardoaponte7479 there is no way the Vison Pro is a better gaming system. It's games aren't really even games, the Quest has way more gaming options, WAY more people online to play multi-player with. It has haptic vest for shooting games too. I'm sure the Vison does great at what it does, but its not designed for gaming
@@En1gmatic1I’m sorry, but at that point just go outside and play gold, or go bowling, or go to the pool, you should not need to use a headset to have those experiences.
I don't even think the Vision Pro would be worth it at $500. It has a small FOV (smaller than even the quest 2), is very uncomfortable, have to be connected to the battery with a wire and it sucks at games. With that said I have a Quest 3 on order. Should be receiving it tomorrow!
You haven't use it that's why. I don't get what is wrong with people's head, all they do is bash vr product without trying nor understand the technology in any degree
@@toututu2993 You are right. I have not used it and nothing about it interests me for 3500. I have been happy with my Quest 2 and I'm sure will be even more happy with the quest 3 coming in tomorrow.
Which is better? The Vision Pro or Quest 3?
The transitions, the editing 🔥🔥🔥
I almost forgot to pay attention to the review. Good thing that was awesome too. I agree Quest 3 just has more at the moment, without the struggles with the lenses.
quest 3 is mind blowing for price tag. Its unreal!
vision pro is not worth 3500 at all. quest 500 price point and the amount of things you can do with it makes it a much better value.
You simply do not understand price formation. The Vision Pro is very reasonably price for what it is while the Q3 reached that price through subsidization. The thought process here seems to be "big number not worth it, small number worth it," that's not how reasonable people consider the worth of anything.
@@r.m8146fair point. I think there are use cases that will make each headset either worth more or less to each person. Being lucky enough to try both side by side for a weeks in this video, from my perspective, I can say the Quest 3 does the main things I want which are productivity and gaming. While it’s not apple to apples, it’s close enough for what I need, that I would not pay 5 times the price for the Apple Vision Pro, despite me liking it better for productivity and entertainment.
The components of the Vision Pro are reported at $1900. So no.
@@r.m8146The components of the vision pro are sub 2000 dollars and it‘s quite literally an overpriced quest pro with better specs 😂
I can tell you tried both.
Just curious about the resolution when video editing. I also have a Quest 3 and I love it for gaming ,but not as much for everything else. I'm full in on the apple ecosystem. I'm picking up an AVP used and trading my M4 11' iPad Pro to bring down the price. My main reason for wanting the AVP is for pairing with my 13inch MacBook Air and video editing. The resolution on the Quest using Horizon Workrooms, Immersed, or any of the Remote Desktop apps just isn't enough for me. It's simply too blurry unless I bring the windows too close. Things are legible, but annoying enough to counter any productivity gains. Is the experience much better on the AVP? I also like the idea of going into an isolated zone and zeroing in on writing without distraction. That's another bonus for the AVP. What was your experience editing?
I have done several 4+ hour video editing sessions in Davinci Resolve and even edited this exact video in the headset.
I experienced that blurriness at first, but I think a combination of screen position, size, and resolution plays a big role. Is it as sharp as my 49in ultrawide? No, but it’s much larger and I can still read small font.
I think internet stability also plays a big role. There are settings in the immersed app both in the headset and on your desktop client to increase the resolution and streaming quality. I have everything set to max and it looks sharp enough for the most part. Now, going into this challenge, I was actually expecting the Vision Pro to be sharper for productivity. It might be overall, but it’s not that big of a noticeable improvement as I thought it’d be.
Instead, what makes the AVP feel “better” is how seamlessly it connects to my Mac, how responsive it always is, and how it just works. Every few sessions with Immersed, I have to troubleshoot why it’s not connecting or why it’s stutters. Not a deal breaker, but it’s another selling feature of the Apple ecosystem. Let me know if you have any other questions.
@@paulAntill i've been using the vision pro for the past 48 hours. my mind is blown. like you said, the apple ecosystem is the biggest seller. i still love the quest for gaming, but everything else is now apple vision pro. what an illuminating experience. you're also right regarding the resolution. the clarity difference wasn't as significant as i thought it would, be it's big enough that i prefer working on the vision pro more.
The Quest 3 is better as you i mimic the Apple Vision Pro which a app called the Spatial App and it also has Apple TV+ just which a slightly lower resolution screen and the games and apps on the Quest 3 is very vast compared to what Apple offers and the Quest 3 get better with new features every single month and the vision pro doesn't and I have a headphone jack o my Quest 3 which allows me to connect the headsets audio to my soundcard and straight through to Logic Pro X as I sometimes make beats on my Quest 3 and I also use virtual instruments and the vision pro does not offer a headphone jack which Apple could of exploited if they decided to develop logic pro for the headset as its industry standard software
The lack of audio pass through seems like a BIG missed opportunity. In part, I wonder if it was to keep latency down, but I think it might be as simple as them wanting to sell more airpods? But yes, when it comes to working on projects with audio, the Vision Pro could have made that a huge selling feature.
As a meta quest 3 owner I use mine every single day for few months still a blast to play and watch movies on I had a family
Member who has the Vision Pro yes it is amazing technology and more clear but 3400 is just wayyyy too much that’s the price of two Apple phones or even a car for something that most people use maybe twice a week
Great review. But both cannot be compared. Quest is really the top gaming VR device while AVP is more on productivity and media viewing. but AVP really is too expensive and I wouldn't suggest it to anyone unless they really love the immersion and use and have some spare to invest/splurge on. And I wouldn't suggest Quest either if they weren't really into games.
You can increase the AVP's field of view by removing the light seal and can get controllers, too.
After watching your review I finally understand why the price tag is so high - along with the apple tax its most likely all the proprietary app developments and royalties they've had to shell out to both devs and their parent companies to create such seamless interfaces for the vision pro
While the quest's short comings is that it has to use a browser and 2D optimized interfaces in order to access youtube and other streaming platforms (along with older hardware), Apple went the extra mile and a half to make sure all the main streaming services and entertainment apps were fully fleshed out. Because of this the quest doesnt have to deal with those fees and is hoping that as VR matures, other companies will handle the optimizations for them, whereas Apple, being known for their complete and premium devices regardless of price was willing to perfect virtually all aspects of the base VR experience - not a terrible choice, and would've had a better outcome for them if VR had a bigger market
I don't agree at all that the pro is better for entertainment media.
I mean you're allowed to be wrong.
There’s really no question, Apple TV+, Disney/Hulu and HBO alone make this incredible for entertainment. Sadly Quest doesn’t have anything close to this yet, and I’m not sure it ever will. You either need to use a browser, download the media, or use a 3rd party app. It’s not as easy to just find or stream your favorite content.
@@MarcusWarcus40the displays in the Vision Pro are significantly better which automatically makes it win
@@eastonbrewer1798eh. I thought this too but then I did my 2nd Vision Pro demo recently and wasn’t too impressed. Things didn’t seem as high resolution as I remembered. Quest 3 doesn’t seem so bad now
I would hope something that cost 3500.00 to something that's 500.00 would be more clear and more advanced. Which is more affordable and can be used by the masses? I'm sure I'll continue to be happy with my quest 3 and the lower cost.
The small fov is the biggest deal break for me with the vision pro
What games/apps/experiences do you think are impacted the most for you?
Hopefully apple can make the coming versions of Vision Pro to be a lot lighter than it is now. Vision pro now is heavy, wearing it for long hours is too much work. 😅
You are totally right, the Vision Pro’s price is ridiculous!!! It has the power to run MAC OS and Vision OS but NO!!!! You need a MacBook Pro to pair with it!!
I will wait five years until Apple figures this one out, hopefully by then MAC OS, iOS and Vision OS can run from one device.
The Vision Pro really is not that much
Your partner should try it without lenses. My prescription is prism too, but it works.
quest is your better option. Price Point, Games, Comfort, Wireless, PC Connectivity
Whatever you mentioned as good for vision pro is features for apple users... Which is not bad but for what i understand if you have android and windows you either spend a lot of money extra to be in the apple ecosystem or half of what you paid goes to the trash
AVP is the rich VR
Quest 3 is the people VR
But also the tech is significantly better which makes it more expensive
I don't think I'm the Apple that sells iPhones.1200 Dollar Vision Pro will be made for 1000 If Apple made a $2000 Vision Pro with lighter weight, longer battery life and an M3 or M4 processor, I would buy it.
I think for it to justify the $2000 for me, I’d want it to do more than it already does. It would either need to be very good for actual VR gaming, or have similar app/program support as full MacOs, to use this as more of a dedicated laptop for “real” work. I think we’re getting to the point that it’s powerful enough, it’s just Apple doesn’t want to cannibalize their other products.
Apple could probably take over Quest 3 on gaming if they just gutted it to quest 3 level tech and used their M4 chip with controllers.
Vision Pro for UI and Cinema, Quest 3 for vr gaming
You have no idea about Quest 3, but you can throw it away. My meta quest 3 has hope and it's incredibly nice to watch movies.It's even more enjoyable than movie theaters with resolution like mirror
I have a Vision Pro and the immersive videos are sooooo worth it. Cant experience that on a quest, and the resolution of the screen is so much better, which makes it the better product to me. Now is it 3400 no but not 1,000. Maybe a $2499 if they can add live sports and concerts to it im super sold .
Immersive videos can be experienced on quest. We have 8K downscaled videos via youtube, and you can upload spatial videos from iphone.
I have both, but I can no longer justify using my Quest 3. The AVP is significantly better, though it’s unfortunately heavy and expensive. Moreover, since VR isn’t popular with many people, it’s difficult to find a partner to fully utilize its potential, such as for FaceTime avatar calls. I believe that, anyone who had the money and could try and decide which one to buy, would choose the AVP!
The quest has better resolution capabilities and I'm fine with just watching Pluto TV on a huge screen any size you want in better quality than your 200$ + TV sets
So the vision pro is just the spatial app 😂
Such a shame they made the AVP so expensive.... doesn't matter how good it is for most people.... just not a realistic purchase. Awesome to see the tech though and exciting to see where they go.... hopefully at a fraction of the price.
This might be Apple’s way of asserting themselves as the dominant premium VR player. It starts very expensive, but eventually settles on being expensive with their future releases. People have it in their mind that this is premium and worth the “expensive” price as we’ve seen how much it was when it first released, and now they’re more willing to buy one. Just a thought. 🙊
The Apple Vision Pro is primarily intended for developers to acquire and create applications for the device. Additionally, it is not yet suitable for general use, and I believe many individuals may not fully comprehend this distinction.
Quest is sold at a loss for such an advance techs. As for Apple their hardware price model is different
@@toututu2993 very different. 😁
so much American vocal fry
4:10 lol why are you watching the concord trailer 😂
Apple anything sucks every phone they have ever had for sale looks and is the same as the first, it's so funny how they literally think their apple vision "pro" is so "Great" with less res output and field of view and does not play vr games
It’s true, they do think it’s great and while hideously expensive and overpriced, they’re right. I own a Quest 3 and Vision Pro. Love the Quest for its games and love the Vision Pro for its incredible media and productivity.
Apple devices are not typically associated with gaming capabilities. Consequently, a significant portion of users opt for personal computers (PCs) due to Apple’s historical stance against enabling high-level gaming on their devices, particularly MacBooks. This phenomenon is not novel.
It is imperative to cease comparing these two devices. Although they are both virtual reality (VR) and augmented reality (AR) headsets, they belong to distinct categories, and this distinction is not a negative aspect.
The pro is better in everyyyyy aspect there is no way to compare this products in Ux, ui, the meta is crap is not even an mvp!!!!
Really? Better in gaming? I don't think so
@@chadhero37 you already use both ?
The pro is strictly a top of the line fancy new way to experience flat screen content. But it's all just sit on your ass media consumption and mac book productivity experiences in a fancier new way.
But the Quest 3 actually takes you to new worlds to experience and actively participate, explore, and play in. It also does well at simulating real world activities. Golf/ bowling/ first person shooting/ping pong/ pool/ boxing. All without having to leave your home. PLUS it can do anything the Vision Pro can do, just with lower resolution, and less user friend UX/UI...but you can at least experience anything the AVP has to offer, just not In as amazing fidelity
@ricardoaponte7479 there is no way the Vison Pro is a better gaming system. It's games aren't really even games, the Quest has way more gaming options, WAY more people online to play multi-player with. It has haptic vest for shooting games too. I'm sure the Vison does great at what it does, but its not designed for gaming
@@En1gmatic1I’m sorry, but at that point just go outside and play gold, or go bowling, or go to the pool, you should not need to use a headset to have those experiences.
I don't even think the Vision Pro would be worth it at $500. It has a small FOV (smaller than even the quest 2), is very uncomfortable, have to be connected to the battery with a wire and it sucks at games. With that said I have a Quest 3 on order. Should be receiving it tomorrow!
You haven't use it that's why. I don't get what is wrong with people's head, all they do is bash vr product without trying nor understand the technology in any degree
@@toututu2993 You are right. I have not used it and nothing about it interests me for 3500. I have been happy with my Quest 2 and I'm sure will be even more happy with the quest 3 coming in tomorrow.
@toututu2993 You don't need to use it. Values are in front of our eyes and say fov value
The Meta Quest 3 is a low end Android tablet whereas the Vision Pro is an IPad Pro.
For 7 times the price lol