I bought my elite match 10mm in September of 2015. Never had a singal round misfire besides sellior and bellot ammo on my first mag ever. We can arguee it was the ammo or the gun right? My elite match was 780.00 at the gunshop and was shipped and man milled by an Italian man himself. What folks don't know mostly is this weapon is so accurate almost like a 22call rifle but in your hand. I love them handles you put on yours sir. This is truly the only automatic 10mm I will ever own. It's the best when this model was made by hand. I have ran all types and pressures of ammos sence and never had a failure due to the ammo or gun. But I will never buy sellior and bellot ammo again. And if you ask me them 14 rounds is very tight inside that magazine sir. I mean like a shock in a car tight 😆
@@Icarryone yes i run 15 rounds if i need it in my home with the 10mm but it is so tight i dont like it so i really would keep 13 in mag and one in chamber. i created a 14 round mag for my glock 42 in 380 a year ago which was much fun. it took 2 regular 6 round mags to make a 14 rounder. but it only likes flat nose ammo. im yet to mod my 60 doller 10mm mag to the elite. but to make a shock mag would rock on man hahaha.
Visiting the channel after so many years I need to say I've never had a jam yet in this 10 mm and I love this 10 mm and I love even more that I haven't had to use it on a human yet but I trusted to Fire and be accurate since the day I left the last comments here
Nice video as usual. I love my EAA Witness full size 10mm. I've never has a single issue with it. (Made by Tanfoglio). If shooting a 10mm you may as well shoot the hot loads. That's what sets it apart. Shooting Fiocchi 180 grain factory rounds mine will make three leaf clovers on paper at 25 yards. Not bad.
I love it when you do videos on your CZ's and Tanfoglio's! I so want a Hunter model with the 6" slide and I have the non-ported version of your wonder finish 45. Truly incredible guns!
10mm Auto's rule. When my brother bought his Colt Delta Elite so long ago, I asked him why??? Given time and 15 years, I sought out a 10mm of my own, and purchased a Glock 20SF. I already owned a .40SW in a SW4013TSW. The 10mm Auto was designed for full power loads, else you can shoot the watered down .40SW in a lesser gun (I shoot both). Both 10mm's I own only shoot full power loads, (for field carry) but I have developed loads to help with trigger control for practice. Its like buying a 357 Mag, but only ever shooting .38SPL. But really what you have with either is versatility. Low to High power for the 10mm, and with a .40SW low to Medium power. My 10mm 135gr HP loads are on par with Underwood and shoot accurately out to 200yrds from both my Ruger 1911 10mm and Glock 20SF with Wolf 6in bbl. Energy approaches 800ft-lbs, which is much better than any .357Mag load I can make. Given that and a 15+1 in the Glock, you are looking at 12,800ft-lbs of delivered energy from one mag.
I've got one. I also bought a complete 40cal slide for it as well. Offers great accuracy and versatility. Never had a malfunction or a feed problem. Great gun for the price.
Just about 1 year ago I picked up the high capacity long slide Rock Island Armory 1911 10mm. Dual thumb safeties, magazine well and a great trigger. Adjustable sights as well. It's a great handgun. I plan on reloading for it very soon.
I have tried to like the CZ75 pattern but the safety is too far forward to operate for me. I like the rearward safety of the 1911s. The Rock Island was a better choice for me. Plus, they do have the dual safeties and I'm left handed. Gun companies shut out thirty percent of their customers for not offering a safety for us lefties.
I've had the Witness Elite Match in .40S&W for years and have wanted one in 10mm for quite awhile. I finally found one a few months ago and I very happy with it. I also replaced the front sights with Dawson Precision fiber optic on both of my Elite Match's.
I own one of these. It is a fine firearm. Accurate, reliable, and controllable. It is a little larger than the Government 1911 and a bit heavier. Even though the Match Elite is only somewhere around 0.2" to 0.1" wider than the 1911, the 1911 is much more comfortable for me to carry inside the waistband style (3 o'clock). In the final analysis the Colt trigger is what makes the 1911 the "best" for me.
I love 10mm, my preferred load is SnS casting 180 grain flat point boolit, with 9.5 grains of Longshot and a magnum primer. I tried to replicate old Swampfox ammo ballistics but got a huge variation in standard deviation.
The Tanfoglio is also about half the price of the Sig 10mm, and just as good, so it's a much better value. I have a Glock 20 Gen 3, but I might get one of these.
A big fan of both the 10mm and 45 Super. My 45 Super loads out of a S&W 4506 are 250's at 1050, 230's at 1100 and 200's at 1200. 22# Wolff spring used. Also use the 22# spring in the S&W 1006. 10mm/45 combo kit looks like a pretty good set up. Would like to see that future 45 super video.
I get it. A couple years ago,, when I first purchased my Springfield XDM OSP 10mm with the 4.5 slide & 5.28" threaded barrel, I bought a couple boxes of ammo to go with it, as soon as I found some. It handled no differently than my 9mm. Those were the last factory rounds that went trough it! Now it enjoys a steady diet of my full power 10mm Auto handloads, plus its much more fun to shoot.
Very nice looking handgun! Though I don't have any experience with this Tanfoglio model, I absolutely love the CZ-75 based pistol I do own, an early model IMI Jericho 941 that I was lucky enough to purchase last year.
@@laurogarza4953 If I could only have one handgun. It would be the Tanfoglio Witness Stock3 in 10mm + 45acp slide + 9mm slide + 22lr slide. Would NY count that as one gun? The rest of the country would.
@@WheeledandWellArmed The frame should be the only part considered as a firearm, but with some states and their backwards laws I couldn't tell you about the legalities of owning multiple slides in your state of residence.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Although I am very well acquainted with handguns and most long arms, I had no idea such a handgun yet existed. Thanks for that valuable report.
If you ever get a chance to put the Hunter in a machine rest to see just how accurate the pistol really is be prepared to be humbled, the Hunter is far more accurate than my Colt Gold Cup.
@@Icarryone I'm glad you turned me on to tanfoglio. Eric aka ebomey Love mine so much that he went out and bought his own shortly after shooting mine in his stock form it's been heavily modified since he shot it last.
I love 10mm aswell sir. I have a few I'm trying find more but all i can find is g20 ,already have one of those with lots of parts for it. Have around 1k rounds of full power ammo for it. Love the 10mm ❤
@@Icarryone I've went to around 4. I live in Missouri , small town. There's pawnshops & 2 sportsman's stores. They said they're vendors can't get any. I was going get a Upper lvl one. I ended up getting an 31 yr old colt commander elite. It came on the Trading Post ,radio show. Its on every day people has wares for sale A-Z lol. I've got money put back for a nice 10m. I'm sure I'll find one Hopefully 🤞🏻🙏🤞🏻
I’m a huge 10mm fan but yes, I look forward to your experiment with .45 Super. I know that the CZ 97b can handle .45 Super with no issues whatsoever but I prefer Tanfoglio pistols and am hoping the same holds true.
I've yet to upload a video about it, but yes, this Tanfoglio handles .45 Super extremely well. I simply used the 20lb recoil spring from the 10mm slide to handle the slightly higher recoil.
Oh yeah.... Brought out one of my favorites today!!! 10mm is King!!!! Stay safe, stay blessed and stay dangerous!!! #SemperFi 🇺🇸 🤠👍 Edit: That color of the CZ grips would look really tuff on that two-tone Tanfoglio!!! It'd be a safe Queen called Oreo Lol... 😂👍
Do you know the barrel rifling twist rate for the Tanfoglio 10mm bull barrel? I cannot find it anywhere. I just emailed IFG, current distributor of Tanfo. (EAA apparently lost the contract. And our particular style has been updated as the Defiant model now.)
That's a good looking pistol a friend of mine had a E A A witness in 10mm a few years back and had trouble with it (the slide cracked) so I stayed away but it seems they have figured it out now
I am considering buying a Tanfoglio, specifically a Tannfoglio Witness Elite Limited. I know I can buy conversion kits for the Tanfoglio Match Elite. Do you know if there are conversion kits available for the Witness Elite Limited?
@@Icarryone I did, just after I sent you the note. And yes, you can also change caliber on the competition frames. By the way, I really enjoy your videos. They are informative and fun to watch. Thanks
I have a preference for rubber grips. I know I lose some of the great looks of the gun but it is just my preference. Even my Canik 9 mm has been changed to wrap around rubber grips. Are there any options like this for the Tangfolio or RIA 10 mm?
@@christopherbishop4927 I am looking at both the RIA and the Tangfolio both in double stack. Availability and Illinois are currently letting me take my time to make a decision.
I own two 10mm. One is a glock 20, the other is a springfield range officer elite. Would like to find another 10mm around the price of the range officer elite. I've looked for the one you are doing in this video. Can't find one anywhere around me. What would you suggest,.any incite would be appreciated.
I also have an elite match in 10mm. I really like it except for one issue, every time I fire it the mag won’t drop free when I hit the mag release. I have to push up on the magazine and then pull it out. If I don’t fire the gun, then the mag goes in and out with no issue. I am not sure what is going on with it. Other than that it has been really reliable and accurate. I did upgrade the recoil spring and the guide rod from henning group.
I wanted to know about Hunter model which has 6 inch slide in 10 mm do they have updated square slide (which won't get cracked) and in present if I go to market to buy a witness hunter 6 inch model chambered in 10 mm and Elite match chamberd in 10 mm do they have those updated slides (which won't get cracked)or they can also sell me those round old slides(which gets cracked) ?
Quality en par with CZ (better?), good looks, trigger, big boom - what's not to like!? BTW, is it an aluminum frame? Any MIM-parts? (edit) THX for an appetizing subject vid.
All steel - no alloy. I'm sure there are a few MIM parts but the new CZ 97 10mm has a few MIM parts as well. The 3K price tag attached to the CZ is a little rich for my taste.
@@Icarryone 3k! 😳 I'll settle for a CZ75 in 9 parabellum. Though here I don't have the luxury of choice you 'muricans have across the pond 👍 Thx for the swift answer
Really good to hear that you're having zero issues with full house 10mm in your Tanfo....I have been researching them for a few years and they have a bad reputation in various forums 🤷♂️ I love and appreciate my 9x17 & 9x19 Tanfoglios.....but Oh Yeah 10mm is the Best millimeter, a TRP LONGSLIDE, SR1911, Stainless Target II, Fusion Commander, RIA FS HC..... all attest to my sentiment
Back in the early 1990's some of Tanfoglio's early models (large frame) developed slide cracking issues. This was eventually resolved but that silly stigma seems to persist.
Loved the vid, but anything 10 mm flips my trigger, I can understand having the conversion kit, .45 acp aint nothing to sneeze at with the right ammo these days. Thx for the vid
The new CZ is way overpriced for what it is, couldn't believe they went that high I was on the email list for when they were released I laughed at the price and passed. Tanfoglio does an awesome job and this is on my list
Just checked with PPU 7.62x25. They are 34.75mm long and surprisingly do fit in the RIA 1911A2 10mm double-stack mag (at least 3 of them did). I checked before with a G20 mag and they did not. Maybe they sit more vertically (nose-up) than 10mm rounds.
I really wanted to pick one up. However, I've found that I could not reach the slide release because the safety lever is poorly positioned, is too large & extends out to far. The only way to reach the release is to rotate the pistol in my hand, resulting in a incomplete grip on the pistol as the slide slams closed. Not a safe situation. For those who want to add an insult, I do not have small hands, being able to palm a basketball. The best safety/slide release I've found is on the Beretta 92.
If you slam the magazine home hard enough, the slide WILL drop. Also, you can give it the "HK slap" when you place your non dominant hand to drop it. 😁
I bought the Witness Hunter in 10MM, it came with three recoil springs, none of which were strong enough in my opinion. I got an 18lb spring from Wolff. Even with the Wolff spring, it casts the empty casings over 60 feet... I'm afraid of bashing the frame...
I admire your taste in weapons Sir. Hell of a collection.
Thanks Brian.
I bought my elite match 10mm in September of 2015. Never had a singal round misfire besides sellior and bellot ammo on my first mag ever. We can arguee it was the ammo or the gun right? My elite match was 780.00 at the gunshop and was shipped and man milled by an Italian man himself. What folks don't know mostly is this weapon is so accurate almost like a 22call rifle but in your hand. I love them handles you put on yours sir. This is truly the only automatic 10mm I will ever own. It's the best when this model was made by hand. I have ran all types and pressures of ammos sence and never had a failure due to the ammo or gun. But I will never buy sellior and bellot ammo again. And if you ask me them 14 rounds is very tight inside that magazine sir. I mean like a shock in a car tight 😆
Might as well tube one up and run 15 - right?
@@Icarryone yes i run 15 rounds if i need it in my home with the 10mm but it is so tight i dont like it so i really would keep 13 in mag and one in chamber. i created a 14 round mag for my glock 42 in 380 a year ago which was much fun. it took 2 regular 6 round mags to make a 14 rounder. but it only likes flat nose ammo. im yet to mod my 60 doller 10mm mag to the elite. but to make a shock mag would rock on man hahaha.
Visiting the channel after so many years I need to say I've never had a jam yet in this 10 mm and I love this 10 mm and I love even more that I haven't had to use it on a human yet but I trusted to Fire and be accurate since the day I left the last comments here
Nice video as usual. I love my EAA Witness full size 10mm. I've never has a single issue with it. (Made by Tanfoglio).
If shooting a 10mm you may as well shoot the hot loads. That's what sets it apart.
Shooting Fiocchi 180 grain factory rounds mine will make three leaf clovers on paper at 25 yards. Not bad.
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I love it when you do videos on your CZ's and Tanfoglio's! I so want a Hunter model with the 6" slide and I have the non-ported version of your wonder finish 45.
Truly incredible guns!
Agreed.
Nice 10mm Elite Icarryone.Coooool looking grips to.Great shooting also and thanks,Slim.
Thanks Slim.
There's no denying that is a beauty
Awesome shooter too.
I have to say that my IFG Defiant limited Master 10mm is just a piece of art ... that runs like a dream!
Cheers!
Wait - what??
@@Icarryone
I have a video ... it is awesome!
Went back and found that video. Yeah buddy! 👍
10mm Auto's rule. When my brother bought his Colt Delta Elite so long ago, I asked him why??? Given time and 15 years, I sought out a 10mm of my own, and purchased a Glock 20SF. I already owned a .40SW in a SW4013TSW. The 10mm Auto was designed for full power loads, else you can shoot the watered down .40SW in a lesser gun (I shoot both). Both 10mm's I own only shoot full power loads, (for field carry) but I have developed loads to help with trigger control for practice. Its like buying a 357 Mag, but only ever shooting .38SPL. But really what you have with either is versatility. Low to High power for the 10mm, and with a .40SW low to Medium power. My 10mm 135gr HP loads are on par with Underwood and shoot accurately out to 200yrds from both my Ruger 1911 10mm and Glock 20SF with Wolf 6in bbl. Energy approaches 800ft-lbs, which is much better than any .357Mag load I can make. Given that and a 15+1 in the Glock, you are looking at 12,800ft-lbs of delivered energy from one mag.
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I've got one. I also bought a complete 40cal slide for it as well. Offers great accuracy and versatility. Never had a malfunction or a feed problem. Great gun for the price.
Shoot this, u will never want the Colt again.🤣
Colts ARE basic of 1911s.
Looking forward to the news on the 45 super, just found this channel and it's already becoming a favorite.
Awesome, thank you!
I love my 45acp full steel in wonder finish, with custom grips from Lokgrips which really set it off.
Very nice!
That is a nice one. LOK grips look good on it as well. Great vid Sir
Thanks 👍
Another great video as usual thank you sir !!!
Thanks!
What a beauty, this one has been on my list for a while now 👍
Good choice!
Good looking pistol! Big fan of CZ and their cones, especially the EEA's. Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure Steven.
Just about 1 year ago I picked up the high capacity long slide Rock Island Armory 1911 10mm. Dual thumb safeties, magazine well and a great trigger. Adjustable sights as well. It's a great handgun. I plan on reloading for it very soon.
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I have tried to like the CZ75 pattern but the safety is too far forward to operate for me. I like the rearward safety of the 1911s. The Rock Island was a better choice for me. Plus, they do have the dual safeties and I'm left handed. Gun companies shut out thirty percent of their customers for not offering a safety for us lefties.
I've had the Witness Elite Match in .40S&W for years and have wanted one in 10mm for quite awhile. I finally found one a few months ago and I very happy with it. I also replaced the front sights with Dawson Precision fiber optic on both of my Elite Match's.
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@@Icarryone, also the G10 grips you have, what manufacturer and model are they? I would rather have the G10 grips than the Lava grips I have on now.
@@desertdwellers7294 They are made by LOK Gun Grips. Here is a link to their site: lokgrips.com/
@@Icarryone, thanks for the info.
More 10mm reviews.....please!!!! Very informative!!!
I'll see what I can do Ed.
I own one of these. It is a fine firearm. Accurate, reliable, and controllable.
It is a little larger than the Government 1911 and a bit heavier. Even though the Match Elite is only somewhere around 0.2" to 0.1" wider than the 1911, the 1911 is much more comfortable for me to carry inside the waistband style (3 o'clock). In the final analysis the Colt trigger is what makes the 1911 the "best" for me.
To me, the Elite Match is more of a target & hunting proposition.
That is a beautiful pistol. I recall reading about this type of pistol in the magazines in the early 1990s. 👍😁
They are still around. 👍
I love two tone hand gun's and I love the 10mm. Thanks for sharing! Ruger Rich
My pleasure Richard.
Your editing is really good 👍🏼
I try!
I got 1 6 years ago, and it is outstanding !! That's why I have not purchased another !!
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I love 10mm, my preferred load is SnS casting 180 grain flat point boolit, with 9.5 grains of Longshot and a magnum primer. I tried to replicate old Swampfox ammo ballistics but got a huge variation in standard deviation.
I rarely load cast bullets in my 10mm's. I personally prefer jacketed bullets - but that's just me.
The Tanfoglio is also about half the price of the Sig 10mm, and just as good, so it's a much better value. I have a Glock 20 Gen 3, but I might get one of these.
I endorse this thought. 👍
It’s not a DA/SA, but then again, who wants a DA/SA when it’s a 10mm.
That is a beautiful handgun and in my favorite caliber too.
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A big fan of both the 10mm and 45 Super. My 45 Super loads out of a S&W 4506 are 250's at 1050, 230's at 1100 and 200's at 1200. 22# Wolff spring used. Also use the 22# spring in the S&W 1006. 10mm/45 combo kit looks like a pretty good set up. Would like to see that future 45 super video.
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I get it. A couple years ago,, when I first purchased my Springfield XDM OSP 10mm with the 4.5 slide & 5.28" threaded barrel, I bought a couple boxes of ammo to go with it, as soon as I found some. It handled no differently than my 9mm. Those were the last factory rounds that went trough it! Now it enjoys a steady diet of my full power 10mm Auto handloads, plus its much more fun to shoot.
Agreed!
Beautiful pistol!
Thanks!
Well, I enjoy the conversation. Thank you.
My pleasure!
Have same one and I 💚it‼️ Quality & design is excellent !!! Thanks for video!!
Merry Christmas 🍷🇺🇸🇷🇺
Thanks, you too!
those grips really make the pistol pop!!!! Nice !
Thank you!
Very nice looking handgun! Though I don't have any experience with this Tanfoglio model, I absolutely love the CZ-75 based pistol I do own, an early model IMI Jericho 941 that I was lucky enough to purchase last year.
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When I see a Tanfoglio with a slide conversion auction they always seem to get the full price. Same with CZ and 22lr conversion slide.
Yeah, I noticed that too!
I agree that feature makes this handgun very appealing.
@@laurogarza4953 If I could only have one handgun. It would be the Tanfoglio Witness Stock3 in 10mm + 45acp slide + 9mm slide + 22lr slide. Would NY count that as one gun? The rest of the country would.
@@WheeledandWellArmed The frame should be the only part considered as a firearm, but with some states and their backwards laws I couldn't tell you about the legalities of owning multiple slides in your state of residence.
@@WheeledandWellArmed Although I am very well acquainted with handguns and most long arms, I had no idea such a handgun yet existed. Thanks for that valuable report.
I'm also 10mm fan what a beautiful firearm
Thank you!
I love my 6in witness hunter.
If you ever get a chance to put the Hunter in a machine rest to see just how accurate the pistol really is be prepared to be humbled, the Hunter is far more accurate than my Colt Gold Cup.
All of my Tanfoglio's are extremely accurate.
@@johnparrish9215 I have a Leupold scope mounted on mine planning to use it for deer hunting this year.
@@Icarryone I'm glad you turned me on to tanfoglio. Eric aka ebomey Love mine so much that he went out and bought his own shortly after shooting mine in his stock form it's been heavily modified since he shot it last.
Great video...
Thanks!
I love 10mm aswell sir. I have a few I'm trying find more but all i can find is g20 ,already have one of those with lots of parts for it. Have around 1k rounds of full power ammo for it. Love the 10mm ❤
Your local gun shop should be able to order whatever one you'd like.
@@Icarryone I've went to around 4. I live in Missouri , small town. There's pawnshops & 2 sportsman's stores. They said they're vendors can't get any. I was going get a Upper lvl one. I ended up getting an 31 yr old colt commander elite. It came on the Trading Post ,radio show. Its on every day people has wares for sale A-Z lol. I've got money put back for a nice 10m. I'm sure I'll find one Hopefully 🤞🏻🙏🤞🏻
That is an awesome looking pistol. Damn!!!
Outstanding shooter.
Beautiful piece!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thank you! Cheers!
I’m a huge 10mm fan but yes, I look forward to your experiment with .45 Super. I know that the CZ 97b can handle .45 Super with no issues whatsoever but I prefer Tanfoglio pistols and am hoping the same holds true.
I've yet to upload a video about it, but yes, this Tanfoglio handles .45 Super extremely well. I simply used the 20lb recoil spring from the 10mm slide to handle the slightly higher recoil.
@@Icarryone lol good idea. Full power 10 mm has more power then 45 super so recoil spring from 10 mm should work.
Beautiful gun, you have an eye for good looking grips!!
Thank you!
What a cool gun! I would love one in all stainless.
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Oh yeah.... Brought out one of my favorites today!!! 10mm is King!!!! Stay safe, stay blessed and stay dangerous!!! #SemperFi 🇺🇸 🤠👍 Edit: That color of the CZ grips would look really tuff on that two-tone Tanfoglio!!! It'd be a safe Queen called Oreo Lol... 😂👍
No safe queens - that's the rule!
@@Icarryone with this ammo shortage, some of us don't have a choice anymore 🤣
Wow! Although not a fan of the DA/SA semi-auto, this pistol grabs my attention. 10mm with a .45 ACP conversion? I'm there!
It is actually a single action.
How would you compare a Tanfoglio to say a Kimber in overall quality and performance.
The short answer is; I've had nothing but bad luck when it comes to Kimber firearms. Never had a single issue arise from investing in a Tanfoglio.
@@Icarryone I guess that answers my question. Thank you .
Do you know the barrel rifling twist rate for the Tanfoglio 10mm bull barrel? I cannot find it anywhere. I just emailed IFG, current distributor of Tanfo.
(EAA apparently lost the contract. And our particular style has been updated as the Defiant model now.)
406.40 mm (1 in 16 inches) is the most common twist rate for European made 10mm handguns. Some, 1911 platform 10mm's use a 1 in 10" twist rate.
@@Icarryone Much obliged! 👌
That's a good looking pistol a friend of mine had a E A A witness in 10mm a few years back and had trouble with it (the slide cracked) so I stayed away but it seems they have figured it out now
Must have had one of the older "round top" models.
@@Icarryone it may have been not sure but it shot great until the slide cracked
What magazine do you run with 45acp slide installed? Same ones or do they have to be 45acp mags?
What a beautiful pistol. How many rounds does it hold when converted to 45?
The .45 mags hold 10 rounds.
Beutiful pistol, the lok grips set it off.
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What a beautiful shot on that javelina can you eat those?
Love that pistol it's one of my favorites in your collection.
You certainly can! Pit BBQ or slow cooked on a smoker grill are my favorite ways to cook it.
The closest one can get to the Bren ten now giving some Miami vice vibes
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Love the review, I’d like a 10mm like yours but in an all chrome or wonder steel finish. Can you recommend any. Thanks
Tanfoglio offers similar models with hard chrome and stainless finishes.
@@Icarryone Awesome thank you
Is this a ramped barrel and if not can it be converted to a clark/para/lissner ramped barrel? Reg
The Elite Match already has the ramped barrel.
Sweet looking pistol
Thank you kindly.
Enjoy your videos, thank you so much. In your opinion can the Tangfolio Elite Match be carried 'cocked and locked' like the 1911 ?
Yes, absolutely!
I am considering buying a Tanfoglio, specifically a Tannfoglio Witness Elite Limited.
I know I can buy conversion kits for the Tanfoglio Match Elite. Do you know if there are conversion kits available for the Witness Elite Limited?
You would probably need to contact customer service at EAA.
@@Icarryone I did, just after I sent you the note. And yes, you can also change caliber on the competition frames.
By the way, I really enjoy your videos. They are informative and fun to watch.
Thanks
Nice pistol for sure.Are the CZ 10mms on CZ's listings now?Just for info sake,tell more about the CZ 10mm.Thanks.
At their current price, I doubt I'll purchase one and do a subsequent review.
I have a preference for rubber grips. I know I lose some of the great looks of the gun but it is just my preference. Even my Canik 9 mm has been changed to wrap around rubber grips. Are there any options like this for the Tangfolio or RIA 10 mm?
Is your RIA double stack? If not Pachmyer and Colt make 1911 wrap around grips
@@christopherbishop4927 I am looking at both the RIA and the Tangfolio both in double stack. Availability and Illinois are currently letting me take my time to make a decision.
@@inquisitive980 Sir I don't know of any wrap around grip stocks for those choices
@@christopherbishop4927 Thank you very much for the response.
Christopher is correct, Ken. I don't know of any either.
Love my Tanfo
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Hey! I have a steel frame 10mm witness pro. What grips can I buy? Are they for cz94 framed guns? I want some g10 stuff.
Try the link I provided in the video description box. LOK has a sizing chart specifically for Tanfoglio / Witness handguns.
@@Icarryone thanks so much!
I own two 10mm. One is a glock 20, the other is a springfield range officer elite. Would like to find another 10mm around the price of the range officer elite. I've looked for the one you are doing in this video. Can't find one anywhere around me. What would you suggest,.any incite would be appreciated.
You might could ask your local gun shop to order one for you.
I also have an elite match in 10mm. I really like it except for one issue, every time I fire it the mag won’t drop free when I hit the mag release. I have to push up on the magazine and then pull it out. If I don’t fire the gun, then the mag goes in and out with no issue. I am not sure what is going on with it. Other than that it has been really reliable and accurate. I did upgrade the recoil spring and the guide rod from henning group.
Have you tried another magazine?
@@Icarryone yes sir, I have 3 other magazines and they all get stuck after firing several rounds.
Possible issue with the mag release? It's hard to tell without personally examining the gun.
@@Icarryone I was thinking the same thing. I may try to put the factory grips back on and test it out before sending it back
I can never find a tanfoglio pistol. I would love to purchase this 10 ml. Why is the 10 ml cz very expensive?
The cost of the new CZ 97 10mm is in nosebleed territory: Roughly $2.5-3k, depending on how one wants it configured. My wallet just screams, NO!
You'll love the 45Super
I have a couple of other pistols set up to shoot .45 Super. Really like the ballistics of that round.
I wanted to know about Hunter model which has 6 inch slide in 10 mm do they have updated square slide (which won't get cracked) and in present if I go to market to buy a witness hunter 6 inch model chambered in 10 mm and Elite match chamberd in 10 mm do they have those updated slides (which won't get cracked)or they can also sell me those round old slides(which gets cracked) ?
The Hunter model comes with the updated slide.
@@Icarryone which wont get cracked and can easily shoot full power loads 👉 right?
Right.
I would love 1, but in 38super.
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Sir i wanna talk about stock 3 eaa elite in 10mm. People say that it has square slide which does not get cracked cause its very beefy. Is that true?
Yes, Tanfoglio redesigned their slides many years ago. To my knowledge, cracking issues are no longer a problem.
Very impressive.
Thank you very much!
I remember these and remember I WANT ONE !
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Very nice looking 10mm
Thanks 👍
Does the witness elite match come with 2 recoil springs?
This one didn't.
It ships with a 14lb only, but Henning makes a "power pack" of 18,20, and 22 lb springs. I advise that esp due to its low cost.
Dang I owned a .45 in this gun, traded it for a Kimber Custom II,
I wish I had converted it to 10mm.
I've screwed up so many times😡🇺🇸🪖
Live & learn they say.
Almost a Bren Ten with the 45ACP option. Cool..
Although I'd love to own a Bren, this Tanfoglio is actually a bit more versatile.
That is a beaut. Good all around 10. Thank you.
Thank you too!
Quality en par with CZ (better?), good looks, trigger, big boom - what's not to like!?
BTW, is it an aluminum frame? Any MIM-parts?
(edit) THX for an appetizing subject vid.
All steel - no alloy. I'm sure there are a few MIM parts but the new CZ 97 10mm has a few MIM parts as well. The 3K price tag attached to the CZ is a little rich for my taste.
@@Icarryone 3k! 😳
I'll settle for a CZ75 in 9 parabellum. Though here I don't have the luxury of choice you 'muricans have across the pond 👍
Thx for the swift answer
Thoughts on running 460 Rowland through this Tanfoglio?
I haven't seriously thought about it. Might be an interesting project down the road.
Really good to hear that you're having zero issues with full house 10mm in your Tanfo....I have been researching them for a few years and they have a bad reputation in various forums 🤷♂️
I love and appreciate my 9x17 & 9x19 Tanfoglios.....but Oh Yeah 10mm is the Best millimeter, a TRP LONGSLIDE, SR1911, Stainless Target II, Fusion Commander, RIA FS HC..... all attest to my sentiment
Back in the early 1990's some of Tanfoglio's early models (large frame) developed slide cracking issues. This was eventually resolved but that silly stigma seems to persist.
Damn that’s good looking
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Loved the vid, but anything 10 mm flips my trigger, I can understand having the conversion kit, .45 acp aint nothing to sneeze at with the right ammo these days. Thx for the vid
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have the IFG model.. exceptional. side by side.. CZ trigger a little better but BOLO from Patriot Defense would likely clear this up.
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Can this be converted to decocker?
I don't think so.
Could use a ceracote option
Nah, I'll pass.
I love my Tanfoglio Witness 45/22 combo conversion kit !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah buddy!
The new CZ is way overpriced for what it is, couldn't believe they went that high I was on the email list for when they were released I laughed at the price and passed. Tanfoglio does an awesome job and this is on my list
Yeah, I'll bet we're not the only ones who passed on the new CZ.
Not surprising, they’ve always been overpriced, like anything under the HK brand.
Does anyone make aftermarket stuff for those guns? I want to have barrel made in 7.62x25mm Tokarev.
You won't find anything in 7.62X25.
Will they fit in a mag though? 7.62x25 are 35mm long, 45acp etc (38acp/38super, 10mm) are 33 mm long.
Just checked with PPU 7.62x25. They are 34.75mm long and surprisingly do fit in the RIA 1911A2 10mm double-stack mag (at least 3 of them did). I checked before with a G20 mag and they did not.
Maybe they sit more vertically (nose-up) than 10mm rounds.
Theres a big following for this firearm by Henning Supply. Thats where i spend entirely too much money at least. 😆
@@PaulVerhoeven2 Tokarev tapers a bit. Maybe that affects how they stack?
Good stuff
Thanks, appreciate it!
I really wanted to pick one up. However, I've found that I could not reach the slide release because the safety lever is poorly positioned, is too large & extends out to far. The only way to reach the release is to rotate the pistol in my hand, resulting in a incomplete grip on the pistol as the slide slams closed. Not a safe situation.
For those who want to add an insult, I do not have small hands, being able to palm a basketball. The best safety/slide release I've found is on the Beretta 92.
I personally don't have that problem.
Try using your non-dominate hand.
If you slam the magazine home hard enough, the slide WILL drop. Also, you can give it the "HK slap" when you place your non dominant hand to drop it. 😁
Your hands are too small then lol find a gun that suites your fit…
Sure looks good.
I think so too.
I bought the Witness Hunter in 10MM, it came with three recoil springs, none of which were strong enough in my opinion. I got an 18lb spring from Wolff. Even with the Wolff spring, it casts the empty casings over 60 feet... I'm afraid of bashing the frame...
Yes, it sounds like you still need a heavier recoil spring. (20-22lb.)
Love my Tanfo Defiant Stock I in of course 10MM.
Yeah buddy!
Wish I could find an elite match. Any tips?
gunsinternational has a huge selection of used & new guns. be prepared to pay covid prices however.
Another way is to have your local firearms dealer do a search for you. They generally have the best connections when it comes to finding certain guns.
I've got this same gun just the non rail does anyone know anybody who is making a holster for it can't find one anywhere.
Ya buddy!
Exactly!
Is it Tanfolio...or TanfoGlio?
The "G" is silent.
You like 10 mm? I never would have guessed.🤣
Ive wanted one just never seen one in the shops in go to
You gotta get out of Jersey Joey.
Youm may want to check out SIG X-Ten if you are such a 10-mil fan.
Ahhhh I shall try full powered 10mm ammo
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Cz makes a 10mm now?
Yes, they do. Quite expensive I might add.
@@Icarryone what's the model? Didn't see it on the cz website, only dan wessons
@@LL-dj3oh It's based on the model 97. You have to order one through CZ's custom shop. Be prepared to drop around $2,500 - $3,000 for one.
How were you able to get one? I've been completely unable to find one for almost a year now. Please teach me your sorcery.
No sorcery involved - strictly voodoo!