he didn't take them to the NFC championship....Eric Dickerson and a stout Rams defense did....he did just enough to not fuck it up....but the Rams were so good in 1985, they made it to the conference title game with a bottom tier QB...
@@bconni2 I see what you're saying, but Ryan Fitzpatrick can "not fuck it up" and he's 37 at this point and still playing. If not playing for the rams, Brock probably should've been at least signed as a backup somewhere and not fallen into obscurity. The best kind of backup short of a Nick Foles or Case Keenum is a player who will keep your team afloat and "not fuck it up." That's essentially what Teddy Bridgewater did for the saints this year and he was signed by the Panthers. You don't need to be a hall-of-famer or even a pro-bowler to stick around in the league, you just have to have the ability to "not fuck things up" and a lot of teams will sign you as a backup or emergency starter for one season at a time.
This guy was legit. I first met him as a kid, my father and him were teammates in college and in Winnipeg. My dad was his left tackle and he told me about his arm and the weighted footballs and that he was the real deal, had he played at a larger school in college and been given an NFL shot at 23 he would have been an All Decade level player. Awesome cool guy.
he might be a great guy in real life, but he wasn't NFL material....he had 3 hall of famers on the O line , a HOF running back, a top 5 offensive coordinator and a budding super star wide out in Henry Ellard , yet he still couldn't figure it out...
I remember this well. All the NFL commentators spoke so derisively of Brock. The rams dipped into the CFL to pay them back for luring Ferragamo away in 81. Ferragamo was terrible in the CFL leading the Alouettes to an awful 3-13 season
And somehow, 3-13 STILL got them in the playoffs. The East was absolutely putrid in 1981. By comparison, Saskatchewan went 9-7 that year. But still missed the playoffs, since they finished 4th in their division.
There are many examples of CFL players stepping up to the NFL. But many NFL stars took big money to come up North to play in Canada...only to fail miserably. Like Vince Ferragamo. Remember him, Rams fans?
So would most any team, I think. Best chances, maybe the 1976 Raiders, with their own dominant defense and killer offensive line. or the Cowboys of the early 90s for the same reasons. By the way, if you want to see the 70s Steelers completely humiliated by the Raiders, watch the 1976 AFC Championship game ruclips.net/video/gP8D24uapJM/видео.html
@Rich Krupp The '86 game was a real shocker. I think Steve Dils completed as many passes as Brock did in the '85 Championship (6) and the Rams still won. The only difference was McMahon was hurt and he was the catalyst on offense for Chicago along with Payton. So Kemp may have had a better chance in the '85 Championship, but it would've taken a miracle performance.
@@Crusader1815 i wouldn't call the 76 raiders defense dominant. yes they went 13-1 but an 18th ranked defense should never be called dominant. as for the AFC championship game, the steelers had over 2000 yards of rushing sitting on the bench that day. rocky and franco were both injured the week before. and if you want to see what the raider killer offensive can do go this video of the 1974 AFC championship game on the same field....ruclips.net/video/VwtxclEVit8/видео.html
A few great CFL quarterbacks - some who also played in the NFL, some who never did......Doug Flutie was the greatest CFL QB, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Joe Theisman. All were successful in the NFL. One guy who never played in the NFL but was great was Marcus Allen's brother - Damon Allen. That guy was awesome.
I remember when I saw the kittle video and you had like 1000 subs. I couldn't believe it because the quality of your videos are great. Keep up the great work dude
My understanding was Dieter Brock was with the Rams in 1986, but his back injury flared up in training camp. Then the Rams quickly moved him to the injured reserved list, effectively ending his season as well as his career. If not for the injury, the plan was for him to be under the center in '86. At least until they thought the highly touted rookie Jim Everett was ready.
I lived or more like existed in Winnipeg in the 1970's when I was a kid and a Football Fanatic... Dieter Brock was and still is the best straight up passer I have ever seen...He had an arm that was almost impossible to believe... I cannot understand why he wasn't picked up by almost any team in the NFL during his prime years of 25 to 30...Believe me he was that good and he is an American, not Canadian and you can see how good he was when he played his one year in the NFL..Sometimes you get these strange anomalies like Dieter that despite the fact he was an extraordinary player he was never drafted by the NFL nor did anyone pick him up when they should have... He would have been a Pro Bowler many times if they had given him a chance... Sigh.. Dieter Brock was an Amazing QB...!!!
Because the NFL always had bad scouting. The fact 3 NFL teams had Cameron Wake on their practice squad shows nothing changed. He went to the CFL won back to back DPoY and then came to the NFL. Now he’s one of the top pass rushers and has been for some time. Again bad scouting.
Actually the Rams didn't acquire Jim Everett until a few games into the 1986 season. In fact, Brock was pegged as the starter that season, with Steve Bartkowski as backup, until Brock got hurt in the preseason.
He was sacked 51 times in 416 drop backs. In today's offenses with ~620 drop backs that would be ~75 sacks. Considering the rules of the game in 1985 he was probably battered pretty badly that year.
I see where you're coming from, but technically he was a rookie.. It was his first season in the NFL. By definition, that made him a rookie.. But you're right, in this case it is a deceitful term..
O.J. Brigdance, Andre (Bad Moon) Rison, Brandon Browner, Mervyn Fernandez, Joe Theisman, Joe Kapp, Doug Flutie, Cameron Wake, Joe Horn, Warren Moon and Jeff Garcia are probably the best to have made the transition from the CFL to the NFL.
The 85 Bears are the most overrated team in sports history. We're they bad? Obviously not. That is not what overrated means. Who did they play all year? Packers, Vikings, Buccaneers and Lions twice. All losing teams, save the 8-8 Packers, but that is still not a good team. Who did the Bears play outside their division and 6 free wins? 4 win Colts 4 win Falcons 7 win Jets 9-7 Cowboys They only faced competition from 3 proven teams 10-6 Redskins 10-6 49ers 11-5 Patriots 12-4 Dolphins, which takes us to my real point. Dan Marino and Miami exposed Buddy Ryan's defense in that game. He built the blue print that continued to dominate his defenses and teams from 1986 and onward. Well know that if Miami had finished the job against NE, they would have shit on the Bears again and nobody would even be talking about them. They were a talented team which had a cake walk to the super bowl and to a ring. They earned it, but there is a reason why the Bears only had one other meaningful season (1988) since.
Paul Gaither “They earned it, but there was a reason the Bears only had one meaningful season (1988) since” A) saying they earned it contradicts what you previously said B) what about 2007?
@@hehehe4364 - Why is it so difficult for people to understand what the word overrated means? People rank the 85 Bears as one of the best teams of all time. They are not. They earned their super bowl victory. They do not belong in the top 5 teams of all time, which they have been placed by many professional sports writers and content creators. The 2019 Patriots defense was performing better on paper than the 85 Bears through 10 games and all you read was how NE had a cakewalk schedule...yet nobody wants to admit that the 85 Bears did as well. For me, the 2000 Ravens were a far superior defense on the field regardless of stats. If we wanted to have a playoff of the best teams of all time, I would bet hard cash that the 85 Bears win at most one round before getting demolished by real teams.
Brock was good. The Rams gave up on him too early after one bad game. That sucks: even though he was 34 coming from the CFL: he was still a good solid QB.
The 85 Bears had a big habit of making just about every quarterback outside of Dan Marino look bad. I remember their game at Texas Stadium and thought that the Cowboys would win. (The game was a pick 'em.) Needless to say I was WRONG! The Bears won 44-0.
I remember the 1985 season as if it was yesterday. The thing is, nobody was going to beat the Bears that year. The Patriots went through a great run in the AFC playoffs where they had a two headed combo of QBs (Steve Grogan/Tony Eason) and a great special teams squad but it wasn't enough, they were crushed by the Fridge and the mosters of the midway in the big game.
I thought this was a very fair assessment of Dieter's season in LA and also his career in general. I was a Winnipeg Blue Bombers season ticket holder throughout his nine and a half seasons here and he was generally excellent as evidenced by the two Most Outstanding Player awards he won while Warren Moon was also in the league. He had a rocket arm with tremendous touch and accuracy. It was often said that he could throw the ball through a car wash without getting it wet (I know. It's an old one.) Unfortunately, due to several different circumstances in playoff games, he wasn't able to lead the Blue Bombers to a Grey Cup game. It's a shame that he is commonly remembered as being a bum in his one season as a Ram because he was anything but during the regular season. One error in the video; Winnipeg traded Brock to Hamilton for Tom Clements during the 1983 season so he went to the Rams from the Tiger Cats not the Blue Bombers as stated. Ironically, he did get to the 1984 Grey Cup game with Hamilton where Winnipeg crushed him and the Tiger Cats 47-17. Watching the 1985 Rams, I couldn't understand why Coach Robinson wouldn't take the wraps off of Dieter's arm. The Rams signed him because he blew them away with his arm strength during his try out but then he only threw 365 passes in what can only be described as a ridiculously conservative offense. Mind you, the offensive line performed horribly that season as Dieter was sacked 51 times and Jeff Kemp an additional 6 times in his one start. Dickerson also had a "mediocre" season with 1,234 yards and only a 4.2 average per carry. Despite being under constant pressure, Brock did set one team record with a 59.7 completion percentage that has since been topped many times. Here's a link to the August 19th, 1985 Sports Illustrated article on Dieter Brock: vault.si.com/vault/1985/08/19/a-rifle-wrapped-in-an-enigma
Now there's a name I had nearly forgotten! My brother was a huge Rams fan (for some strange reason) so of course he had an Eric Dickerson jersey and thought Brock was the best thing ever that season. It is a shame they ran into that Bears defense. Many souls were jarred loose from their bodies during that superbowl run
I remember him on Winnipeg . I still remember in late 1983 Winnipeg traded Dieter Brock to Hamilton for QB Tom Clements and then both teams met in the 1984 Grey Cup with Winnipeg winning 47-17 with Tom Clements at QB . In fairness Winnipeg was much better than the Hamilton Tiger-Cats . Both Dieter Brock and Tom Clements are in the CFL HOF .
Through the years I've heard and read complaints about what Dieter Brock brought to the table for the 1985 Rams, but I think he did okay. I mean, the Rams weren't out anything, and Jeff Kemp was just a serviceable journeyman, so qualifying for the NFC Championship Game with a 34-year old NFL rookie isn't bad (they weren't beating the '85 Bears:-). So, I say good for him.
Chris Wenke was drafted by the Panthers at age 29. He started when Steve Beuerlein got hurt and finished the season with his own shoulder injury ( the Carolina O-line broke 4 quarterbacks that year).
Growing up in Vancouver, Canada, I remember watching Dieter Brock as the QB for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. He was a great quarterback. I remember reading somewhere that he was close to retirement and wanted to try the NFL. I forgot how he did with the Rams in his one full season in the NFL.
Dieter Brock. He was an enigma even back THEN. At least Warren Moon had won big in the CFL. And was under 30. Dude was a 34 year old who got thrust on to a prime job in the NFL.
John Robinson never gets the credit for being a great coach. The guy got the most out of a Rams team that only had Eric Dickerson as its biggest offensive weapon, and still kept them competitive after Dickerson was traded. This was a guy that beat Tom Landry and Bill Parcells in playoff games. The guy is seriously underrated when it comes to coaches of the 80s.
Just wanna clear up a misconception here - Dieter Brock didn't attract NFL interest because of his height. Brock often threw sidearm between gaps in the tackles, something that was easier to do on the wider field of the CFL. Long list of great QB's in the CFL in the 70's and 80's who didn't fit the NFL ideal at the time (i.e. White and Tall). A short list is Joe Theismann, Mr. Brock, Conridge Holloway (first QB to successfully execute the "run and shoot" at the pro level) and, of course, Warren Moon.
@@johnhorn3344 The Golden age of CFL Quaterbacks extended well into the 90's. Almost all the CFL passing and scoring records were set during this time. The list of great black QB's and great "short" QB's is extensive. One league's loss is another one's gain. Doug Flutie is another example. I could name many more, but no one outside of Canada would have heard of them - for example Damon Allen played from 1985 to 2007 and holds most of the career passing marks. Amazing talent.
I've wondered about this guy, when I've looked through my football encyclopedia and come upon his single season of play. Interesting to get an explanation on how he came to be a starter and why it came to an end. What thing about Deiter - he took a lot of sacks. He was very similar to Neil Lomax in that he threw the ball well, but needed extra time to make decisions. Like Lomax, I guess the beatings he took played part in shortening his career - though playing till 35 back then was not a small accomplishment, even if he played most of his career in the CFL. Doug Flutie and Jeff Garcia are two other Qb's who performed in the NFL after coming from Canada. I think the talent in the CFL is often overlooked in the States.
I remember it a little different. Robinson was stubborn. His offense was based on running the ball. The dominate type offenses of the era was the West Coast and the Coryell passing offenses. Brock had neither of these. It was a little like one of Jeff Fisher's offenses without the trickery. The 46 Defense was new and the predecessor of the Tampa 2 Defense. Brock never had a chance. To Robinson's credit he found Brock and knew his offense was limited. The next year he brought in a quarterback (Jim Everett) and Coach Zampese that changed the offense. The Rams should have been better, but poor management took a top level franchise degraded it and ultimately moved it to St Louis. Interestingly, poor St Louis had bad luck again as they had with the Cardinals. Both of these franchises were so badly manged they couldn't bring people into the stands.
The CFL to NFL transition is not an easy one for sure. But it's great to see that some of the CFL's best were able to compete in the NFL. Let's think of Joe Kapp, Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon (HOF), etc.... But the transition from the NFL to the CFL has had a few tragedies. Vince Ferragamo with the Montreal Alouettes was a bust. Ricky Williams?!? And What about Johnny Football?!?
I remember watching him in Winnipeg and then in LA. What a great arm! He did things daily that would make you scratch your head and say "holy sh*t did you see that?!!" He was a lot like Jeff George...so much physical talent but there was a piece missing. No idea what that piece was.
He's a great example of someone who's story aged better than people at the time could have ever anticipated. Retrospectively seeing that "hey, this QB from the CFL who was 34 when he first played an NFL game stood up to and beat legends like Joe Montana and was only shut down by the most dominant defense in NFL history and one of the most dominant teams in NFL history," you realize that this guy was far better than anyone then thought he was or could have been.
As a child growing up in Winnipeg, Dieter Brock was my idol. Fun Fact: During his time in the CFL, Brock changed his name from Ralph to Dieter. I loved the guy because he had a rocket for an arm and could take on the dreaded Edmonton Eskimos, who were lead by Warren Moon. I recently heard a radio interview in which he said passing in the NFL was actually easier than passing in the CFL; reason being is the CFL field is bigger than the the NFL, therefore he had much more ground to cover. You might not know this, but Vince Ferragamo was a starting QB in the NFL before being lured to play in the CFL and he turned out to be a disaster. I remember attending his first game against Winnipeg and his team were blown out by some ridiculous score -- something like 52 -- 3. Ralph's (sorry, Dieter's) time in the NFL was prematurely cut short. He went up against what is probably the best defence ever and got clobbered, just like any other team. Ralph (sorry, Dieter) reminds me of Doug Flutie. Flutie came to Canada and tore every record book to shreds. The guy is a fucking legend. Yet he never received the kudos he deserved when returning to the NFL. Guy lead the Bills to the playoffs only to take a seat to Rob Johnson, who promptly shit the bed. You see, despite his accomplishments, Flutie was deemed inferior, and that is a shame. It took the Bills a million years to get back to the playoffs after he retired.
@@joachimguderian4048 Ha! Are you drunk? What makes you think insulting a total rando for making a completely insignificant observation is cool? Seriously, what is wrong with you?
As a Rams fan, I honestly never got into researching this guy! Tbh I don't think I heard of him, I'm barely 21 and became a fan in 2004. Kinda crazy how much history my team has since becoming one in 1937!
I remember Brock when I was a kid. Even then I remember the biggest knock on him was his size. The Rams really were not a good passing team with him there. Some of that might have been the coaching staff, and some might have been because of Brock's limitations. But he only threw for 2600 yards and 16/13 TD/INT rate for the year. The Rams at that time were a team that lived and died with Dickerson. The team won a ton of games running the ball and playing some of the best defense in the league. Having said that, I liked Dieter. I always thought he was a good enough player. I would have liked to see him come back to L.A.
In his one and only NFL season Brock completed 60% of his passes for 2658 yards. He threw 16 touchdowns with 13 interceptions. It's not a crime to be a winning QB and have a fine year. He was certainly better than many of the backup QBs other teams had and probably better than several starters. If it's a crime to not be great he's guilty, but he was certainly a fine rookie NFL QB and could have helped several other pro teams.
The mid-eighties Rams were the worst of bad jokes! Poor decisions, BAD ownership, Brock to Crissie, and E.D. just ran away. The whole team went "POOF".
I remember during one of the prime time games the Rams played in 1985, Brock launched a pass from his own 10-yard line that landed (incomplete) at the other team's 5-yard line. That's 85 yards in the air with an NFL football. I think his receiver stopped running about 20 yards too soon. The announcing crew was speechless.
Fact check- The LA Rams traded for Jim Everett AFTER the start of the 1986 season. Everett was holding out after being drafted by the Houston Oilers. The LA Rams started Steve Bartkowski for the first couple games of the 86 season.
When Brock played with Winnipeg, he had great seasons but Warren Moon was in Edmonton at the time. Edmonton with the help of the refs at critical times always came out on top in terms of championships in many close games. I was a Winnipeg fan and so I watched the games with a critical eye. Warren Moon was a great player but so was Dieter Brock. They both had unbelievable arms and both should have made the NFL sooner. Warren Moon never won a superbowl either. I think Doug Flutie was the best quarterback to play in the CFL. Flutie had wonderful roll out ability on a wider CFL field than the NFL has which made it an even greater asset.
The CFL is a very QB driven league. This has been the case since the 1970s. The NFL started to look to the CFL for players at the skilled positions. By the time he got to the NFL he was pretty beat up and past his prime. Jeff Garcia would be the next older CFL QB.
Never underestimate the power of the CFL, but the weakness of the NFL. I liken Dieter to Flutie. Both were beasts, cast aside because of their size. Both showed up and dominated, transcending the game.
11-4, makes it into the divisional round of the playoffs as a rookie then disappeared? Odd. That would never happen in the Internet Era. Brock would certainly would found another home to finish off his short football career. Brock's throwing passes reminds me of John Elway another man who can throw footballs like cannons.
Completely left out was that he actually played for Hamilton in 83 and 84 after being traded from Winnipeg. Almost took the Ti Cats to a huge upset win over the eventual champs - Toronto - in 83, then led Hamilton to an upset of Toronto the following year before losing to (ironically) Winnipeg in the 84 Grey Cup. Tremendous QB. CANNON for an arm. One of the strongest ever. And, the CFL balls back in those days were enormous compared to the NFL balls. Those suckers were tough to throw a spiral on. Despite his small stature, he could scramble and had a great deep touch on his passes. Loved watching him as a Ti Cat fan, and really was pulling for him to upset the Bears that year.
Your statement at 3:46 is inaccurate you state that Winnipeg is not so sunny. Winnipeg average 316 days of sunshine per year . Los Angeles only has 284 sunny days a year. Granted a lot of those sunny days are when it’s -30 with wind but still your statement is wrong.
CFL Veteran. I remember Brock when the local media welcomed him to Anaheim(yes the Rams played in Anaheim). 1985, Rams Sucked that year too. Just like the year when the Rams brought in Bert Jones.
Fun fact: people that play their first year in the NFL after playing in another league are not recognized as rookies by the NFL. Yes, technically he is a rookie. And no, I’m not hating or correcting, I just saw that on the back of a Topps football card once (I think 2006)
Doesn't happen often, but CFL QB's have had success in the NFL: Warren Moon, Jeff Garcia, Doug Flutie to name a few. Brock was talented enough to be a starter in the NFL had he been given a chance earlier in his career, but he was short by NFL standards and was dealing with back issues by the time he made the jump to the Rams. It was a cool story at the very least.
I was never really recruited out of H.S. because I grew up in a very small town. I sent some tape of a workout in January 2019 and got offers to play in college. I’ll be 28 this year lol. I want to play but I’ve already done 4 years in college and I depend on my income. Man do I wish I could strap those pads back up though.
If you check his stats from his only year in the NFL he was sacked 51 times. It kinda shows how the offensive line was a bit over rated due to how well they run the football. They weren't great pass protectors as the game against the Bears shows. He was a prototypical 1980's pocket QB and would only run to avoid sacks so represented by his 1.9 yrd/carry If only he could have that ball sack manscaping razer as advertised, he could have escaped more pass rushers.
3:23 Gosh, I remember when Broadway Joe went to the Rams, and how weird it looked to see him in a Ram's uniform, and not the Kelly green and white of the Jets.
It was only a season and a half. Half of 83 and all of 84 . But lost 47-17 to his old team in Winnipeg. I still remember the 83 trade when Hamilton sent QB Tom Clements to Winnipeg for QB Dieter Brock and then they met in the 84 Grey Cup. Winnipeg winning 47-17 . In fairness to Brock Winnipeg was a much better team and it wasn't his fault they lost on the Grey Cup. Nobody was being Winnipeg in 84 . Personally i thought Tommie Clements was a bit better but he was small , not a huge arm where as Brock had a cannon for an arm .
Obviously Brock ended up being a scapegoat for the Rams Coach and the offensive line that FAILED and could not compete with the Bears Superior Defence. Rams didn’t have the Balls to admit it
Brock would have made it as a superstar ANYWHERE he'd decided to (or been allowed to) play.... He had one of the greatest most accurate arms in pro-football, at any level. Catch some of his AMAZING CFL performances ... A SUPER MAN !!
The CFL is very pass oriented. The NFL is very run oriented. So CFL QBs have trouble making the adjustment. Likewise, NFL RBs often struggle in the CFL.
The next year after moving on from Brock, the Rams started 34-year-old Steve Bartkowski for 6 games and went 10-6. They lost to the Redskins in the wild card game.
Sounds like a broken record. The Rams were always cheap, numerous players held out over that period. If only they had paid their talent they could have made a legit run at a championship.
This guy only played one year and went 11-5 with a playoff win. That’s crazy I never heard of him he should have definitely gotten more run.
He was a CFL hall of famer
Even with back issues at least keep him on as a backup.
Honestly if a Rookie took my team to the Divisional championship and went 11-5 I don't care he's 34 that's a success.
Austin Worthington hindsight is 2020 no doubt
*glances at Tebow*
Eidenhoek that’s exactly what he’s talking about
he didn't take them to the NFC championship....Eric Dickerson and a stout Rams defense did....he did just enough to not fuck it up....but the Rams were so good in 1985, they made it to the conference title game with a bottom tier QB...
@@bconni2 I see what you're saying, but Ryan Fitzpatrick can "not fuck it up" and he's 37 at this point and still playing. If not playing for the rams, Brock probably should've been at least signed as a backup somewhere and not fallen into obscurity. The best kind of backup short of a Nick Foles or Case Keenum is a player who will keep your team afloat and "not fuck it up." That's essentially what Teddy Bridgewater did for the saints this year and he was signed by the Panthers. You don't need to be a hall-of-famer or even a pro-bowler to stick around in the league, you just have to have the ability to "not fuck things up" and a lot of teams will sign you as a backup or emergency starter for one season at a time.
Lol saw the thumbnail and already knew it was Brock. Guy is a CFL legend
Go Jets! You've got great taste in football analysis!
@@RichardArpin love to see another Jets fan👍
@@VibeDoctor98 Over here! A Redskins fan and bombers fan too!
Just becoming a Bombers Fan, and being a Bears fan too makes this hard to watch...
Still has that rookie record!
why did no team sign this guy after the rams dumped him?? He had 1 bad game against the best defense in nfl history!!!
Patrick Ferguson I mean back then around 35 was the expiration date for qbs. He was bound for regression
Mason Rudolph’s Bae but not even as a backup? That’s a bit harsh. Think about how bad some backups are that still are in the nfl.
Patrick Ferguson it is weird how he didn’t even get picked up as a backup, tru
Mason Rudolph’s Bae he was not bound for regression, he had not played football for the past 15 years like most QBs his body was fresh
BaronVonBielski bruh he was 35
This guy was legit. I first met him as a kid, my father and him were teammates in college and in Winnipeg. My dad was his left tackle and he told me about his arm and the weighted footballs and that he was the real deal, had he played at a larger school in college and been given an NFL shot at 23 he would have been an All Decade level player. Awesome cool guy.
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Interesting im.from winnipeg and this is the first i heard from this guy
he might be a great guy in real life, but he wasn't NFL material....he had 3 hall of famers on the O line , a HOF running back, a top 5 offensive coordinator and a budding super star wide out in Henry Ellard , yet he still couldn't figure it out...
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@@bconni2 so you're saying Nathan Peterman could succeed on that offense too? this is the 85 Bears we are talking about my guy
I remember this well. All the NFL commentators spoke so derisively of Brock. The rams dipped into the CFL to pay them back for luring Ferragamo away in 81. Ferragamo was terrible in the CFL leading the Alouettes to an awful 3-13 season
And somehow, 3-13 STILL got them in the playoffs. The East was absolutely putrid in 1981. By comparison, Saskatchewan went 9-7 that year. But still missed the playoffs, since they finished 4th in their division.
There are many examples of CFL players stepping up to the NFL. But many NFL stars took big money to come up North to play in Canada...only to fail miserably. Like Vince Ferragamo. Remember him, Rams fans?
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I thought it was Joe Montana
Yea it looks more like Montana
Looks more like Steve Young to me
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The Rams could go back in time and play that 1985 NFC Championship game against the Bears a thousand times and they would lose a thousand times.
Agreed! Bears ‘85 defense was just too incredibly dominant to stop
So would most any team, I think. Best chances, maybe the 1976 Raiders, with their own dominant defense and killer offensive line. or the Cowboys of the early 90s for the same reasons. By the way, if you want to see the 70s Steelers completely humiliated by the Raiders, watch the 1976 AFC Championship game ruclips.net/video/gP8D24uapJM/видео.html
@Rich Krupp The '86 game was a real shocker. I think Steve Dils completed as many passes as Brock did in the '85 Championship (6) and the Rams still won. The only difference was McMahon was hurt and he was the catalyst on offense for Chicago along with Payton. So Kemp may have had a better chance in the '85 Championship, but it would've taken a miracle performance.
@Rich Krupp LOL freakin hilarious
@@Crusader1815 i wouldn't call the 76 raiders defense dominant. yes they went 13-1 but an 18th ranked defense should never be called dominant. as for the AFC championship game, the steelers had over 2000 yards of rushing sitting on the bench that day. rocky and franco were both injured the week before. and if you want to see what the raider killer offensive can do go this video of the 1974 AFC championship game on the same field....ruclips.net/video/VwtxclEVit8/видео.html
I knew it was dieter brock....because ive been a rams fan for 41 years
I knew it was him also, ive been a BlueBomber fan for 35 years.
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A few great CFL quarterbacks - some who also played in the NFL, some who never did......Doug Flutie was the greatest CFL QB, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon, Joe Theisman. All were successful in the NFL.
One guy who never played in the NFL but was great was Marcus Allen's brother - Damon Allen. That guy was awesome.
I remember when I saw the kittle video and you had like 1000 subs. I couldn't believe it because the quality of your videos are great. Keep up the great work dude
This is good and correct. He's up there with Kollman.
Ryan Lichtenstein i like kollman for more up to date stuff like draft prospects and set the edge for these stories
My favorite football youtubers are Set The Edge, Strong Opinion Sports, and Brett Kollman.
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My understanding was Dieter Brock was with the Rams in 1986, but his back injury flared up in training camp. Then the Rams quickly moved him to the injured reserved list, effectively ending his season as well as his career.
If not for the injury, the plan was for him to be under the center in '86. At least until they thought the highly touted rookie Jim Everett was ready.
I lived or more like existed in Winnipeg in the 1970's when I was a kid and a Football Fanatic... Dieter Brock was and still is the best straight up passer I have ever seen...He had an arm that was almost impossible to believe... I cannot understand why he wasn't picked up by almost any team in the NFL during his prime years of 25 to 30...Believe me he was that good and he is an American, not Canadian and you can see how good he was when he played his one year in the NFL..Sometimes you get these strange anomalies like Dieter that despite the fact he was an extraordinary player he was never drafted by the NFL nor did anyone pick him up when they should have... He would have been a Pro Bowler many times if they had given him a chance... Sigh.. Dieter Brock was an Amazing QB...!!!
Because the NFL always had bad scouting. The fact 3 NFL teams had Cameron Wake on their practice squad shows nothing changed. He went to the CFL won back to back DPoY and then came to the NFL. Now he’s one of the top pass rushers and has been for some time. Again bad scouting.
Actually the Rams didn't acquire Jim Everett until a few games into the 1986 season. In fact, Brock was pegged as the starter that season, with Steve Bartkowski as backup, until Brock got hurt in the preseason.
He was sacked 51 times in 416 drop backs. In today's offenses with ~620 drop backs that would be ~75 sacks. Considering the rules of the game in 1985 he was probably battered pretty badly that year.
Ralph Dieter Brock with a CFL like on I would hardly call him a rookie He's also in CFL Hall of Fame
I see where you're coming from, but technically he was a rookie.. It was his first season in the NFL. By definition, that made him a rookie.. But you're right, in this case it is a deceitful term..
It's like making the playoffs just to realize you are gonna have to play micheal jordan and his bulls squad
O.J. Brigdance, Andre (Bad Moon) Rison, Brandon Browner, Mervyn Fernandez, Joe Theisman, Joe Kapp, Doug Flutie, Cameron Wake, Joe Horn, Warren Moon and Jeff Garcia are probably the best to have made the transition from the CFL to the NFL.
85 Bears I’m a packer fan but much respect to that squad
The 85 Bears are the most overrated team in sports history. We're they bad? Obviously not. That is not what overrated means.
Who did they play all year?
Packers, Vikings, Buccaneers and Lions twice. All losing teams, save the 8-8 Packers, but that is still not a good team.
Who did the Bears play outside their division and 6 free wins?
4 win Colts
4 win Falcons
7 win Jets
9-7 Cowboys
They only faced competition from 3 proven teams
10-6 Redskins
10-6 49ers
11-5 Patriots
12-4 Dolphins, which takes us to my real point.
Dan Marino and Miami exposed Buddy Ryan's defense in that game. He built the blue print that continued to dominate his defenses and teams from 1986 and onward.
Well know that if Miami had finished the job against NE, they would have shit on the Bears again and nobody would even be talking about them. They were a talented team which had a cake walk to the super bowl and to a ring.
They earned it, but there is a reason why the Bears only had one other meaningful season (1988) since.
Paul Gaither your dumb.
Paul Gaither “They earned it, but there was a reason the Bears only had one meaningful season (1988) since” A) saying they earned it contradicts what you previously said B) what about 2007?
@@hehehe4364 bears all time have one of the greatest defenses dbs could use work but were great
@@hehehe4364 - Why is it so difficult for people to understand what the word overrated means?
People rank the 85 Bears as one of the best teams of all time. They are not. They earned their super bowl victory. They do not belong in the top 5 teams of all time, which they have been placed by many professional sports writers and content creators.
The 2019 Patriots defense was performing better on paper than the 85 Bears through 10 games and all you read was how NE had a cakewalk schedule...yet nobody wants to admit that the 85 Bears did as well.
For me, the 2000 Ravens were a far superior defense on the field regardless of stats.
If we wanted to have a playoff of the best teams of all time, I would bet hard cash that the 85 Bears win at most one round before getting demolished by real teams.
The second you said 85 bears i genuinely started laughing
Brock was good. The Rams gave up on him too early after one bad game. That sucks: even though he was 34 coming from the CFL: he was still a good solid QB.
The 85 Bears had a big habit of making just about every quarterback outside of Dan Marino look bad. I remember their game at Texas Stadium and thought that the Cowboys would win. (The game was a pick 'em.) Needless to say I was WRONG! The Bears won 44-0.
I remember the 1985 season as if it was yesterday. The thing is, nobody was going to beat the Bears that year. The Patriots went through a great run in the AFC playoffs where they had a two headed combo of QBs (Steve Grogan/Tony Eason) and a great special teams squad but it wasn't enough, they were crushed by the Fridge and the mosters of the midway in the big game.
I thought this was a very fair assessment of Dieter's season in LA and also his career in general. I was a Winnipeg Blue Bombers season ticket holder throughout his nine and a half seasons here and he was generally excellent as evidenced by the two Most Outstanding Player awards he won while Warren Moon was also in the league. He had a rocket arm with tremendous touch and accuracy. It was often said that he could throw the ball through a car wash without getting it wet (I know. It's an old one.) Unfortunately, due to several different circumstances in playoff games, he wasn't able to lead the Blue Bombers to a Grey Cup game. It's a shame that he is commonly remembered as being a bum in his one season as a Ram because he was anything but during the regular season.
One error in the video; Winnipeg traded Brock to Hamilton for Tom Clements during the 1983 season so he went to the Rams from the Tiger Cats not the Blue Bombers as stated. Ironically, he did get to the 1984 Grey Cup game with Hamilton where Winnipeg crushed him and the Tiger Cats 47-17.
Watching the 1985 Rams, I couldn't understand why Coach Robinson wouldn't take the wraps off of Dieter's arm. The Rams signed him because he blew them away with his arm strength during his try out but then he only threw 365 passes in what can only be described as a ridiculously conservative offense. Mind you, the offensive line performed horribly that season as Dieter was sacked 51 times and Jeff Kemp an additional 6 times in his one start. Dickerson also had a "mediocre" season with 1,234 yards and only a 4.2 average per carry. Despite being under constant pressure, Brock did set one team record with a 59.7 completion percentage that has since been topped many times.
Here's a link to the August 19th, 1985 Sports Illustrated article on Dieter Brock:
vault.si.com/vault/1985/08/19/a-rifle-wrapped-in-an-enigma
TY for the SI link. Explains why he left Auburn. If he'd have stayed maybe the NFL would've taken a 2nd look at him.
“But sometimes you play the 85’ bears”
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Now there's a name I had nearly forgotten! My brother was a huge Rams fan (for some strange reason) so of course he had an Eric Dickerson jersey and thought Brock was the best thing ever that season. It is a shame they ran into that Bears defense. Many souls were jarred loose from their bodies during that superbowl run
I remember him on Winnipeg . I still remember in late 1983 Winnipeg traded Dieter Brock to Hamilton for QB Tom Clements and then both teams met in the 1984 Grey Cup with Winnipeg winning 47-17 with Tom Clements at QB . In fairness Winnipeg was much better than the Hamilton Tiger-Cats . Both Dieter Brock and Tom Clements are in the CFL HOF .
Through the years I've heard and read complaints about what Dieter Brock brought to the table for the 1985 Rams, but I think he did okay. I mean, the Rams weren't out anything, and Jeff Kemp was just a serviceable journeyman, so qualifying for the NFC Championship Game with a 34-year old NFL rookie isn't bad (they weren't beating the '85 Bears:-). So, I say good for him.
Chris Wenke was drafted by the Panthers at age 29. He started when Steve Beuerlein got hurt and finished the season with his own shoulder injury ( the Carolina O-line broke 4 quarterbacks that year).
Growing up in Vancouver, Canada, I remember watching Dieter Brock as the QB for the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. He was a great quarterback. I remember reading somewhere that he was close to retirement and wanted to try the NFL. I forgot how he did with the Rams in his one full season in the NFL.
Dieter Brock. He was an enigma even back THEN. At least Warren Moon had won big in the CFL. And was under 30. Dude was a 34 year old who got thrust on to a prime job in the NFL.
John Robinson never gets the credit for being a great coach. The guy got the most out of a Rams team that only had Eric Dickerson as its biggest offensive weapon, and still kept them competitive after Dickerson was traded. This was a guy that beat Tom Landry and Bill Parcells in playoff games.
The guy is seriously underrated when it comes to coaches of the 80s.
Just wanna clear up a misconception here - Dieter Brock didn't attract NFL interest because of his height. Brock often threw sidearm between gaps in the tackles, something that was easier to do on the wider field of the CFL. Long list of great QB's in the CFL in the 70's and 80's who didn't fit the NFL ideal at the time (i.e. White and Tall). A short list is Joe Theismann, Mr. Brock, Conridge Holloway (first QB to successfully execute the "run and shoot" at the pro level) and, of course, Warren Moon.
Moon was tall enough, just not white enough. What a disgrace.
@@johnhorn3344 The Golden age of CFL Quaterbacks extended well into the 90's. Almost all the CFL passing and scoring records were set during this time. The list of great black QB's and great "short" QB's is extensive. One league's loss is another one's gain. Doug Flutie is another example. I could name many more, but no one outside of Canada would have heard of them - for example Damon Allen played from 1985 to 2007 and holds most of the career passing marks. Amazing talent.
Ralph Brock , as he was known in Canada, would have been great in the NFL, but at 24 not 34, and Cameron Wake went from the CFL to Miami.
I've wondered about this guy, when I've looked through my football encyclopedia and come upon his single season of play. Interesting to get an explanation on how he came to be a starter and why it came to an end.
What thing about Deiter - he took a lot of sacks. He was very similar to Neil Lomax in that he threw the ball well, but needed extra time to make decisions. Like Lomax, I guess the beatings he took played part in shortening his career - though playing till 35 back then was not a small accomplishment, even if he played most of his career in the CFL. Doug Flutie and Jeff Garcia are two other Qb's who performed in the NFL after coming from Canada. I think the talent in the CFL is often overlooked in the States.
I remember it a little different. Robinson was stubborn. His offense was based on running the ball. The dominate type offenses of the era was the West Coast and the Coryell passing offenses. Brock had neither of these. It was a little like one of Jeff Fisher's offenses without the trickery. The 46 Defense was new and the predecessor of the Tampa 2 Defense.
Brock never had a chance. To Robinson's credit he found Brock and knew his offense was limited. The next year he brought in a quarterback (Jim Everett) and Coach Zampese that changed the offense. The Rams should have been better, but poor management took a top level franchise degraded it and ultimately moved it to St Louis. Interestingly, poor St Louis had bad luck again as they had with the Cardinals. Both of these franchises were so badly manged they couldn't bring people into the stands.
The CFL to NFL transition is not an easy one for sure. But it's great to see that some of the CFL's best were able to compete in the NFL. Let's think of Joe Kapp, Doug Flutie, Jeff Garcia, Warren Moon (HOF), etc.... But the transition from the NFL to the CFL has had a few tragedies. Vince Ferragamo with the Montreal Alouettes was a bust. Ricky Williams?!? And What about Johnny Football?!?
I remember watching him in Winnipeg and then in LA. What a great arm! He did things daily that would make you scratch your head and say "holy sh*t did you see that?!!" He was a lot like Jeff George...so much physical talent but there was a piece missing. No idea what that piece was.
not gonna lie I thought he was playing for the UW huskies at one point until I noticed it's a CFL team lmao
Me to 🤣😂
@@NAT-turners-Revenge Me 3. It's a dead ringer for the old UW uniform. Just uncanny resemblance.
The mid-Eighties Rams were a talented team without a franchise QB. The Raiders had the same problem in those years. Marc Wilson was their Deiter Brock
He's a great example of someone who's story aged better than people at the time could have ever anticipated. Retrospectively seeing that "hey, this QB from the CFL who was 34 when he first played an NFL game stood up to and beat legends like Joe Montana and was only shut down by the most dominant defense in NFL history and one of the most dominant teams in NFL history," you realize that this guy was far better than anyone then thought he was or could have been.
this guy is actually my 3 cousin! I always heard stories about how much hype there was around a family member being in the NFL, great vid! thanks!!!!!
As a child growing up in Winnipeg, Dieter Brock was my idol. Fun Fact: During his time in the CFL, Brock changed his name from Ralph to Dieter. I loved the guy because he had a rocket for an arm and could take on the dreaded Edmonton Eskimos, who were lead by Warren Moon. I recently heard a radio interview in which he said passing in the NFL was actually easier than passing in the CFL; reason being is the CFL field is bigger than the the NFL, therefore he had much more ground to cover. You might not know this, but Vince Ferragamo was a starting QB in the NFL before being lured to play in the CFL and he turned out to be a disaster. I remember attending his first game against Winnipeg and his team were blown out by some ridiculous score -- something like 52 -- 3. Ralph's (sorry, Dieter's) time in the NFL was prematurely cut short. He went up against what is probably the best defence ever and got clobbered, just like any other team. Ralph (sorry, Dieter) reminds me of Doug Flutie. Flutie came to Canada and tore every record book to shreds. The guy is a fucking legend. Yet he never received the kudos he deserved when returning to the NFL. Guy lead the Bills to the playoffs only to take a seat to Rob Johnson, who promptly shit the bed. You see, despite his accomplishments, Flutie was deemed inferior, and that is a shame. It took the Bills a million years to get back to the playoffs after he retired.
His 1st name was Ralph, his middle name was Dieter. Born Ralph Dieter Brock.
Obviously you’re a dumbass
@@joachimguderian4048 Ha! Are you drunk? What makes you think insulting a total rando for making a completely insignificant observation is cool? Seriously, what is wrong with you?
85 Bears were beyond legendary. My Patriots were unfortunately their victims in the Super Bowl that year.
Indeed we were.
As a Rams fan, I honestly never got into researching this guy! Tbh I don't think I heard of him, I'm barely 21 and became a fan in 2004. Kinda crazy how much history my team has since becoming one in 1937!
He was a lengendary cfl qb who I heard about a couple days ago
Yes, not a rookie qb though.
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I remember Brock when I was a kid. Even then I remember the biggest knock on him was his size. The Rams really were not a good passing team with him there. Some of that might have been the coaching staff, and some might have been because of Brock's limitations. But he only threw for 2600 yards and 16/13 TD/INT rate for the year. The Rams at that time were a team that lived and died with Dickerson. The team won a ton of games running the ball and playing some of the best defense in the league. Having said that, I liked Dieter. I always thought he was a good enough player. I would have liked to see him come back to L.A.
FYI he’s from Alabama, played at Auburn & Jacksonville St.
He played football in Canada.
He was known as the Birmingham Rifle in Winnipeg.
What if he was ACTUALLY uncle Rico
In his one and only NFL season Brock completed 60% of his passes for 2658 yards. He threw 16 touchdowns with 13 interceptions. It's not a crime to be a winning QB and have a fine year. He was certainly better than many of the backup QBs other teams had and probably better than several starters. If it's a crime to not be great he's guilty, but he was certainly a fine rookie NFL QB and could have helped several other pro teams.
Slight correction. Brock has traded from Winnipeg to Hamilton in 1983 and played there for a year and a half before he went to LA.
Wait, check that, CHRIS Everett?
I watched Dieter Brock with the Blue Bombers battle Warren Moon with the Eskimos for years!!
The mid-eighties Rams were the worst of bad jokes! Poor decisions, BAD ownership, Brock to Crissie, and E.D. just ran away. The whole team went "POOF".
I remember during one of the prime time games the Rams played in 1985, Brock launched a pass from his own 10-yard line that landed (incomplete) at the other team's 5-yard line. That's 85 yards in the air with an NFL football. I think his receiver stopped running about 20 yards too soon. The announcing crew was speechless.
Fact check- The LA Rams traded for Jim Everett AFTER the start of the 1986 season. Everett was holding out after being drafted by the Houston Oilers. The LA Rams started Steve Bartkowski for the first couple games of the 86 season.
When Brock played with Winnipeg, he had great seasons but Warren Moon was in Edmonton at the time. Edmonton with the help of the refs at critical times always came out on top in terms of championships in many close games. I was a Winnipeg fan and so I watched the games with a critical eye. Warren Moon was a great player but so was Dieter Brock. They both had unbelievable arms and both should have made the NFL sooner. Warren Moon never won a superbowl either. I think Doug Flutie was the best quarterback to play in the CFL. Flutie had wonderful roll out ability on a wider CFL field than the NFL has which made it an even greater asset.
Brock is a legend. And since spring of '87 Brock has been whereabouts unknown.
How old was Warren Moon when he made the jump from the CFL to the NFL? I'm thinking he must have been in his late 20s already.
He was. Warren Moon is one of my all-time favorites
The CFL is a very QB driven league. This has been the case since the 1970s. The NFL started to look to the CFL for players at the skilled positions. By the time he got to the NFL he was pretty beat up and past his prime. Jeff Garcia would be the next older CFL QB.
Never underestimate the power of the CFL, but the weakness of the NFL. I liken Dieter to Flutie. Both were beasts, cast aside because of their size. Both showed up and dominated, transcending the game.
11-4, makes it into the divisional round of the playoffs as a rookie then disappeared? Odd. That would never happen in the Internet Era. Brock would certainly would found another home to finish off his short football career. Brock's throwing passes reminds me of John Elway another man who can throw footballs like cannons.
How about we talk about the NFL QBs that went to the CFL and tanked
Vince Faragamo is just one and he played in a Super Bowl
Completely left out was that he actually played for Hamilton in 83 and 84 after being traded from Winnipeg. Almost took the Ti Cats to a huge upset win over the eventual champs - Toronto - in 83, then led Hamilton to an upset of Toronto the following year before losing to (ironically) Winnipeg in the 84 Grey Cup. Tremendous QB. CANNON for an arm. One of the strongest ever. And, the CFL balls back in those days were enormous compared to the NFL balls. Those suckers were tough to throw a spiral on. Despite his small stature, he could scramble and had a great deep touch on his passes. Loved watching him as a Ti Cat fan, and really was pulling for him to upset the Bears that year.
Your statement at 3:46 is inaccurate you state that Winnipeg is not so sunny. Winnipeg average 316 days of sunshine per year . Los Angeles only has 284 sunny days a year. Granted a lot of those sunny days are when it’s -30 with wind but still your statement is wrong.
Brett Patterson ain’t not body care
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CFL Veteran. I remember Brock when the local media welcomed him to Anaheim(yes the Rams played in Anaheim). 1985, Rams Sucked that year too. Just like the year when the Rams brought in Bert Jones.
Good lord, the division brackets in the 80s were completely screwed up. I mean NFCW 49/rams/saints and falcons lolol
I'm totally cool with the gaps between the videos you upload man, it makes them much more rewarding.
Fun fact: people that play their first year in the NFL after playing in another league are not recognized as rookies by the NFL. Yes, technically he is a rookie. And no, I’m not hating or correcting, I just saw that on the back of a Topps football card once (I think 2006)
Damn we early bois
Joe Theismann ,Warren Moon, were stars in the CFL and the NFL
Don' t forget Doug Flutie.
The fall of the Atlanta Falcons, Detroit Lions, or Chicago bears or the rise of the San Francisco 49ers , Buffalo Bills.
LETS GO BUFFALO
I mean the fall of the Chicago bears would be the shortest video ever ,you could do it in 1 word: Trubisky
Doesn't happen often, but CFL QB's have had success in the NFL: Warren Moon, Jeff Garcia, Doug Flutie to name a few. Brock was talented enough to be a starter in the NFL had he been given a chance earlier in his career, but he was short by NFL standards and was dealing with back issues by the time he made the jump to the Rams. It was a cool story at the very least.
I was never really recruited out of H.S. because I grew up in a very small town. I sent some tape of a workout in January 2019 and got offers to play in college. I’ll be 28 this year lol. I want to play but I’ve already done 4 years in college and I depend on my income. Man do I wish I could strap those pads back up though.
Sure he might not get a spot in Canton but hats off to you Dieter! That must have been one hell of a season from your perspective.
Where's the CFL hall of fame at, anyway?
@@kyleholtzen6739 It's in Hamilton. He's in that HOF btw
If you check his stats from his only year in the NFL he was sacked 51 times. It kinda shows how the offensive line was a bit over rated due to how well they run the football. They weren't great pass protectors as the game against the Bears shows.
He was a prototypical 1980's pocket QB and would only run to avoid sacks so represented by his 1.9 yrd/carry
If only he could have that ball sack manscaping razer as advertised, he could have escaped more pass rushers.
They didn't run the ball very well either. Dickerson's numbers were way down that season.
16 of 53 for 116 yards and an INT. That's Charles Barkley from 3pt land accuracy for a quarterback in a postseason. Now that's what I call YIKES.
I never heard of this guy ,but it was crazy how the Rams cut him after a 11-5 record.
Best football analyst/story teller out there good job bro!
Better than Joe Buck Troy aikman
3:23 Gosh, I remember when Broadway Joe went to the Rams, and how weird it looked to see him in a Ram's uniform, and not the Kelly green and white of the Jets.
idk how i have never heard of this guy, great video!
At 6:34 that's Jack Kemp # 9 handing off the ball to Dickerson . Not Brock.
That was great! I remember Brock & swear his first name was later inspiration for SNL Sprockets. Lol 😂
Brock was an excellent quaterback. The1985 bears crushed virtually everyone that year. One of the best defences of all time. Love from Canada!
Man I love this channel
What a interesting story. Too bad the Rams happy moment got snatched away.
I love these videos
I remember Dieter Brock as the guy who was the qb when dickerson ran for 248 in the playoffs when i watched the game
One of if not, the greatest blue bomber quarterback
Had great seasons with the Hamilton Tiger-Cats.
It was only a season and a half. Half of 83 and all of 84 . But lost 47-17 to his old team in Winnipeg. I still remember the 83 trade when Hamilton sent QB Tom Clements to Winnipeg for QB Dieter Brock and then they met in the 84 Grey Cup. Winnipeg winning 47-17 . In fairness to Brock Winnipeg was a much better team and it wasn't his fault they lost on the Grey Cup. Nobody was being Winnipeg in 84 . Personally i thought Tommie Clements was a bit better but he was small , not a huge arm where as Brock had a cannon for an arm .
@@quincee3376 Who you gonna call? BROCK BUSTERS! 😁
I'm 38. So you're telling me I can still go pro?
No... cause he was 34
@@snc237 Gee...
Obviously Brock ended up being a scapegoat for the Rams Coach and the offensive line that FAILED and could not compete with the Bears Superior Defence.
Rams didn’t have the Balls to admit it
Brock would have made it as a superstar ANYWHERE he'd decided to (or been allowed to) play.... He had one of the greatest most accurate arms in pro-football, at any level. Catch some of his AMAZING CFL performances ... A SUPER MAN !!
The CFL is very pass oriented. The NFL is very run oriented. So CFL QBs have trouble making the adjustment. Likewise, NFL RBs often struggle in the CFL.
Great story and great video. Thanks for posting.
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The next year after moving on from Brock, the Rams started 34-year-old Steve Bartkowski for 6 games and went 10-6. They lost to the Redskins in the wild card game.
Now do the time that the Rams' quarterback went to the CFL a few years earlier. (Spoiler: it didn't go nearly as well.)
Vince Ferragamo. That lasted one year and he was right back with the Rams.
Sounds like a broken record. The Rams were always cheap, numerous players held out over that period. If only they had paid their talent they could have made a legit run at a championship.
I really miss the previous outro, my man.