The map doesn't look right. San Marino & The Vatican should be re-absorbed into Italy. While we're at it, Andora and Monaco should get back into France and Spain.
In 1929 Vatican City's independent sovereignty was recognized by the Fascist Italian government in the Lateran Treaty. Sovereignty is exercised by the pope upon his election as the head of the Roman Catholic Church. He has absolute executive, legislative, and judicial powers within the city.
@@coreystockdale6287 doesn't change the rat lines they had to protect Nazis from the consequences of what they did to innocent people.. although I haven't heard of this and it does sound interesting, any good videos on the subject you'd recommend?
@@NiskaMagnusson They were independent. What you are hinting at is alt-history. You really think they would catholicize Italy just to get influence points for the pope lmao
@@jorgosgustavus3183 Catholicize Italy? What would the point in that be? they ARE majority Catholic, what on earth are you talking about? I'm referencing the "rat lines" used to help Nazi officers flee from allied prosecution, amongst other things, you're more than welcome to look it up, otherwise I haven't got a clue what you're talking about...
This was really interesting. Please consider turning down the volume on the sound effects- especially the one that sounds like you are shaking out a bed sheet. Very distracting from the narration.
I think it's also interesting that not only is Vatican city a subject under international law, as are all sovereogn states,but the holy see is a separate subject
And then there's S.M.O.M., the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. It occupies a floor of a building in Rome. I think it's the only "country" with a street address. It is a question if it's actually a country, but it does have international recognition by some places
🇻🇦 and 🇸🇲 inside 🇲🇨 in west 🇱🇮 in north (not neighbor but not far) 🇲🇹 in south Now Corsica in west thinking about an independence. So many small states/nations surround 🇮🇹
The Papal States have been around for millennia. They just used to be bigger. The question is, following on from the unification of Italy and the collapse of the Kingdom of Italy, why are they still independent. You could argue the same thing about Andorra, Liechenstein, Monaco, and San Marino.
The short answer to this video's title is "Because Pius IX was a jerk". And I have a few things to add. For starters, everyone in Italy knew Rome was going to be the capital, simply because only Rome can be the capital of Italy (it's an Italian thing). Thus during the First Italian War for Independence everyone, including the Pope's generals, assumed he was on board with forming a confederation... Then rejected unification, hence the Roman Republic that chased him out. Later the Kingdom of Sardinia, the state that would eventually unify the country, tried to form a confederation with the Kingdom of Two Sicilies and the Papal States with the Pope as president, but Pius IX rejected it on account he'd have to accept the two other kings as peers. Thus it was decided to take over as much of the Papal States as possible and wait out Pius IX to negotiate stuff with his successor. In the meantime, Napoleon III, who needed the support of the French Catholics, made a treaty with Italy guaranteeing Rome's independence and sent a garrison because Italy warned him that Garibaldi wouldn't care - and Garibaldi did in fact repeatedly assemble militias to try and invade Rome, and while Italy usually intercepted him the French had to fight him once. In the meantime, Pius IX would throw provocations at Italy at any chance. Then riots started in various Italian cities, as it seemed the government had given up on Rome, putting the new kingdom on the edge of collapse. The government knew they had to act, and soon. The chance came in 1870, when the proclamation of the Third French Republic nullified the treaty in the eyes of the Italian government... At the same time Pius IX was holding the First Vatican Council, in which he had the Pope proclaimed infallible when talking ex cathedra on religious matters and was trying to do the same in ALL matters, even against the bishops opposition. And thus Italy invaded and liberated Rome on September 20, with the streets leading to the main church of almost any Italian city and town being dedicated to the date to be extra petty (in Rome instead the street starts at Porta Pia, the gate in the walls where the Italians broke through). It was also decided to give the Pope a large allowance and freedom to do everything he wanted as long as he stayed out of politics, but Pius instead declared himself prisoner of Italy, complicating everything for Italy and his own successors. It's at this point that Bismarck suggested Wihlelm I to offer him asylum in Germany, as he fully expected the German Catholics to go Protestant once they were exposed to Pius IX. Eventually the situation was solved in 1929 with the Lateran Treaties signed under Mussolini's rule of Italy and Pope Pius XI, establishing Vatican City and regulating things between them and Italy. And the treaty is so important that even after the fall of Fascism nobody dared to touch it, and it was even enshrined in the new Constitution of the Italian Republic.
why is this so hard to figure out? Catholic Church wants to govern itself with its own laws and rules and no oversight from Italy. Same situation with Washington D.C. and the City of London in which, if you think about it are the epicenters for the Military, Financial, and Spiritual might of the world.
Not sure if anyone in the modern age has ever thought of London or Washington as a Spiritual “epicentre”. And while it may clear to those of us with an interest in history and geopolitics why Vatican is a country, you can’t be angry that an average person is confused by its state. The Catholic Church is explicitly so not just one cultural group and is not trying to form a nation state for all its followers. All other major religions and Christian branches epicentres manage to exist within their respective nations without feeling like they’re under the nations control first instead of to whatever deity they follow. As such I think it’s a perfectly reasonable thing for someone to be confused by and have questions.
@bergjung Obviously you didn't comprehend my comment. So I'm not going to waste my breath but say that the Catholic Church wanted its own state, so they can not be prosecuted for the crimes they commit in their own territory.
Ummm....the Vatican actually was sort of above all of the other kings and emperors for centuries. They crowned the kings and emperors as being below the pope.
Because Italy is a civilized country that allows smaller entities to survive within it borders without feeling compelled to delete them from existence. Besides, political compromises with the most powerful spiritual and one of the influential political authorities on the planet is conveniet for a recently unified State whose population follows, in an overwhelming majority, the doctrine devised by the aforementioned leader.
Population 1000 in Vatican city, but his influence and power reaches out to millions, maybe billions, of Catholics world wide. He is the "head" of the Church.
Alternate Universe idea what if Southern Europeans Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, And Greeks remained at the topple of there positions and never got outperformed by Northern Europeans at any point in the early modern periods all the way to the 2000s?
What if - if any consequence would that have at all? Do you forsee? I think a better question would be what if Mussolini's military wasnt so inept being a liability to Hitler's alliance? That could've really changed things....
Or The idea of Western Mediterannean Supremacy could of stayed at its peek just like The times of ancient Greece and ancient Rome yeah.@@NAT-turners-Revenge
Italy, as a G7 economy, overtook France and Britain twice economically beteween the 1980s and 2009, and Is now growing much faster than both UK and Germany. So outperforming Is a relative rerm
Chiang Kai Shek would have steamrolled tibet if he won. Who would give Tibet support? The Brits are why the Chinese didnt take Tibet back in the 30s. It wasn't internationally recognized.
Meh. Tibet was independent and taken over by the Chinese. The current Llama has already given up on the idea of future Llamas ever being the political leaders of an autonomous Tibet.
@@seanwebb605 yeah even if the ccp got defeated chiang kai shek would have taken it back and it was only a matter of time before an internationally UNRECOGNIZED state would be in the posession of its rightful (recognized) claimant
@@applesyrupgaming The world is pretty much ready to allow China to control Tibet. Honestly Tibet can't stand up on its own anyway. The best that anyone can hope for is some degree of autonomy and greater freedoms for its residents.
So many of these different history channels offer questions like this. And I reject the premise and the conclusions drawn. You're not telling us why the Vatican is an independent state. You are giving us a partial explanation of how it became a state. Not really why nation states became the thing anyway. Not why it remains as it was. It it doesn't tell us if it should remain as it is or if it is likely that it will.
@@JewishAtheist Not exactly. The early Christians were Jew, but they broke with Judaism claiming that Jesus was the chosen one. Like an Anakin Skywalker thing. Protestants are more similar to the orthodox who broke away from Rome.
@@JewishAtheist we're not a part of your old testament religion your people even reject Christ as the prophecies Messiah, so technically we are not part of Judaism as we follow the teachings of the Christ.
Pius XII was a fierce opponent of nazism and fascism. Rome's rabbi testified that the Pope was responsible for saving 700,000 jews, and later that rabbi converted to catholicism. He thought it was better to resist silently and help the victims than to vocally oppose it and risk being persecuted and stomped on as well.
@@JewishAtheist Not really. The early Christians had been Jews but claimed that Jesus wasn't just another prophet in the area but god in human form. They made Jesus the focus of their religion and moved away from Judaism. The new testament wasn't just the old testament in paperback.
@EvilEgg331 The angel who redeems me from all evil, may he bless the children, and may my name and the names of my fathers Abraham and Isaac be called upon them, and may they multiply greatly in the midst of the land.🇮🇱❤️
I really thought it wouldn't be the smallest by LAND AREA, just by population. Turns out the only thing that can be smaller than the Vatican is a state without territory, like Somoliland, Transnistria or France. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area
And there is also San Marino in Italy that is a seperate country.
I think he did a video on it.
The map doesn't look right.
San Marino & The Vatican should be re-absorbed into Italy.
While we're at it, Andora and Monaco should get back into France and Spain.
@@Patrick-y4d1zwtf no respect to these micro-states 💀
also wut about singapore? u want sg to be absorbed by larger neighbours?
without these micro-states, especially singapore n vatica, the impact would be great and much difference from today
In 1929 Vatican City's independent sovereignty was recognized by the Fascist Italian government in the Lateran Treaty. Sovereignty is exercised by the pope upon his election as the head of the Roman Catholic Church. He has absolute executive, legislative, and judicial powers within the city.
considering just how much the Fascists managed to influence the Vatican at the time it does make you wonder just how independent they were though
@NiskaMagnusson there were three plots we know of to kill mussolini launch by the pope
@@coreystockdale6287 doesn't change the rat lines they had to protect Nazis from the consequences of what they did to innocent people.. although I haven't heard of this and it does sound interesting, any good videos on the subject you'd recommend?
@@NiskaMagnusson They were independent. What you are hinting at is alt-history. You really think they would catholicize Italy just to get influence points for the pope lmao
@@jorgosgustavus3183 Catholicize Italy? What would the point in that be? they ARE majority Catholic, what on earth are you talking about?
I'm referencing the "rat lines" used to help Nazi officers flee from allied prosecution, amongst other things, you're more than welcome to look it up, otherwise I haven't got a clue what you're talking about...
It was an informative and wonderful historical coverage work about independence, recognition(Vatican 🇻🇦 ) in Italian peninsulas
Yes, thank you for providing this information. These are things the church rarely mentions.
This was really interesting. Please consider turning down the volume on the sound effects- especially the one that sounds like you are shaking out a bed sheet. Very distracting from the narration.
Thanks for this fascinating information! 👍
Excellent Video BTW ❤❤❤❤. I love ❤ all your videos but this one in particular I definitely enjoyed it and learnt so much. Thanks ❤
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😊
I think it's also interesting that not only is Vatican city a subject under international law, as are all sovereogn states,but the holy see is a separate subject
Thank you for another great video!
Learning something new every day ✝️❤️
Can you do a feature episode about Portugal under Estado Novo
As a fellow Catholic, thanks for making this video explaining how we managed to get our tiny but influential city state. 🇻🇦
Love the history, Blessed Be.
Cool. Thanks man
And then there's S.M.O.M., the Sovereign Military Order of Malta. It occupies a floor of a building in Rome. I think it's the only "country" with a street address. It is a question if it's actually a country, but it does have international recognition by some places
I would argue that It Is regarded as a sovereign State but not necessarily as a country. At least, this Is how people define It here in Italy.
@@giulianoilfilosofo7927 Exactly.
🇻🇦 and 🇸🇲 inside
🇲🇨 in west
🇱🇮 in north (not neighbor but not far)
🇲🇹 in south
Now Corsica in west thinking about an independence.
So many small states/nations surround 🇮🇹
I love with all my heart the Catholic brothers and sisters in Christ from an Orthodox Christian from Russia ☦️🇷🇺❤✝️🇻🇦⛪🗺
Your one of those respectful Orthodoxs I see, my respect to you.
Fucking lol
The Vatican is one of the monuments in the world on which Christian symbolism is depicted 🇻🇦 = ✝️
The Papal States have been around for millennia. They just used to be bigger. The question is, following on from the unification of Italy and the collapse of the Kingdom of Italy, why are they still independent. You could argue the same thing about Andorra, Liechenstein, Monaco, and San Marino.
Its so beautiful ❤😊
The short answer to this video's title is "Because Pius IX was a jerk". And I have a few things to add.
For starters, everyone in Italy knew Rome was going to be the capital, simply because only Rome can be the capital of Italy (it's an Italian thing). Thus during the First Italian War for Independence everyone, including the Pope's generals, assumed he was on board with forming a confederation... Then rejected unification, hence the Roman Republic that chased him out.
Later the Kingdom of Sardinia, the state that would eventually unify the country, tried to form a confederation with the Kingdom of Two Sicilies and the Papal States with the Pope as president, but Pius IX rejected it on account he'd have to accept the two other kings as peers. Thus it was decided to take over as much of the Papal States as possible and wait out Pius IX to negotiate stuff with his successor. In the meantime, Napoleon III, who needed the support of the French Catholics, made a treaty with Italy guaranteeing Rome's independence and sent a garrison because Italy warned him that Garibaldi wouldn't care - and Garibaldi did in fact repeatedly assemble militias to try and invade Rome, and while Italy usually intercepted him the French had to fight him once. In the meantime, Pius IX would throw provocations at Italy at any chance.
Then riots started in various Italian cities, as it seemed the government had given up on Rome, putting the new kingdom on the edge of collapse. The government knew they had to act, and soon.
The chance came in 1870, when the proclamation of the Third French Republic nullified the treaty in the eyes of the Italian government... At the same time Pius IX was holding the First Vatican Council, in which he had the Pope proclaimed infallible when talking ex cathedra on religious matters and was trying to do the same in ALL matters, even against the bishops opposition. And thus Italy invaded and liberated Rome on September 20, with the streets leading to the main church of almost any Italian city and town being dedicated to the date to be extra petty (in Rome instead the street starts at Porta Pia, the gate in the walls where the Italians broke through).
It was also decided to give the Pope a large allowance and freedom to do everything he wanted as long as he stayed out of politics, but Pius instead declared himself prisoner of Italy, complicating everything for Italy and his own successors. It's at this point that Bismarck suggested Wihlelm I to offer him asylum in Germany, as he fully expected the German Catholics to go Protestant once they were exposed to Pius IX.
Eventually the situation was solved in 1929 with the Lateran Treaties signed under Mussolini's rule of Italy and Pope Pius XI, establishing Vatican City and regulating things between them and Italy. And the treaty is so important that even after the fall of Fascism nobody dared to touch it, and it was even enshrined in the new Constitution of the Italian Republic.
Vatican must joint Italy to be 1 big country
why is this so hard to figure out?
Catholic Church wants to govern itself with its own laws and rules and no oversight from Italy.
Same situation with Washington D.C. and the City of London in which, if you think about it are the epicenters for the Military, Financial, and Spiritual might of the world.
Not sure if anyone in the modern age has ever thought of London or Washington as a Spiritual “epicentre”.
And while it may clear to those of us with an interest in history and geopolitics why Vatican is a country, you can’t be angry that an average person is confused by its state. The Catholic Church is explicitly so not just one cultural group and is not trying to form a nation state for all its followers. All other major religions and Christian branches epicentres manage to exist within their respective nations without feeling like they’re under the nations control first instead of to whatever deity they follow. As such I think it’s a perfectly reasonable thing for someone to be confused by and have questions.
@bergjung Obviously you didn't comprehend my comment.
So I'm not going to waste my breath but say that the Catholic Church wanted its own state, so they can not be prosecuted for the crimes they commit in their own territory.
@@thedude232 Yes. We need a repeat of what happened in 1870. For Italy to annex Vatican state.
Ummm....the Vatican actually was sort of above all of the other kings and emperors for centuries. They crowned the kings and emperors as being below the pope.
@seanwebb605 what does that have to do as Vatican being a city state?
Because Italy is a civilized country that allows smaller entities to survive within it borders without feeling compelled to delete them from existence. Besides, political compromises with the most powerful spiritual and one of the influential political authorities on the planet is conveniet for a recently unified State whose population follows, in an overwhelming majority, the doctrine devised by the aforementioned leader.
As a citizen of the Vatican I can confirm this is accurate.
Not sure it's the right niche but if anyone's interested in hardcore Papal and Italian history I strongly recommend Schwerpunkt's videos series
Hola❤
5:20 / 11:50
Viva La Vatican 🇻🇦✝️
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
@@JewishAtheistnope, Christianity is about Jesus Christ not Judaism.
@@JewishAtheistIsrael isn’t real btw
Boooo
With a population of 1,000, I'm assuming managing the Vatican is easy for its pope.
Population 1000 in Vatican city, but his influence and power reaches out to millions, maybe billions, of Catholics world wide. He is the "head" of the Church.
Alternate Universe idea what if Southern Europeans Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, And Greeks remained at the topple of there positions and never got outperformed by Northern Europeans at any point in the early modern periods all the way to the 2000s?
What if - if any consequence would that have at all? Do you forsee? I think a better question would be what if Mussolini's military wasnt so inept being a liability to Hitler's alliance?
That could've really changed things....
Or The idea of Western Mediterannean Supremacy could of stayed at its peek just like The times of ancient Greece and ancient Rome yeah.@@NAT-turners-Revenge
Italy, as a G7 economy, overtook France and Britain twice economically beteween the 1980s and 2009, and Is now growing much faster than both UK and Germany. So outperforming Is a relative rerm
Because the Roman Empire lives on!!
There would probably be a similar phenomenon for Tibet if the Dalai Llama was stronger to stay independent of India and China.
Chiang Kai Shek would have steamrolled tibet if he won. Who would give Tibet support? The Brits are why the Chinese didnt take Tibet back in the 30s. It wasn't internationally recognized.
Meh. Tibet was independent and taken over by the Chinese. The current Llama has already given up on the idea of future Llamas ever being the political leaders of an autonomous Tibet.
@@seanwebb605 yeah even if the ccp got defeated chiang kai shek would have taken it back and it was only a matter of time before an internationally UNRECOGNIZED state would be in the posession of its rightful (recognized) claimant
@@applesyrupgaming The world is pretty much ready to allow China to control Tibet. Honestly Tibet can't stand up on its own anyway. The best that anyone can hope for is some degree of autonomy and greater freedoms for its residents.
@@seanwebb605 yeah it was a foregone conclusion tbh i hope xi's successor is less bad on minorities tbh.
despicable what they're doing to gaza
The Vatican City is the Heart of the Holy Spirit 🇻🇦
How did Great Britain conolized Gibraltar and the island of menjorica
"Panem et Circenses" still to this day!!!
It’s not a country. It’s a city state. There’s a difference.
It is, you sound stupid trying to act smart
Short answer: Money, Influence and Power. Chance my mind. ( Look up the grey pope)
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
They had to put the wealth of the Roman empire somewhere
So many of these different history channels offer questions like this. And I reject the premise and the conclusions drawn. You're not telling us why the Vatican is an independent state. You are giving us a partial explanation of how it became a state. Not really why nation states became the thing anyway. Not why it remains as it was. It it doesn't tell us if it should remain as it is or if it is likely that it will.
What?
Rather foreboding about the future of the Catholic Church there
The video does not properly state the acquisition of land that formed the people states.
Paul VI wasn’t pope at the end of WWII
balogna?
do you mean bologna?
No one wants to mess with d pope la 😂
Short answer: Charlemagne
Long answer: Napoleon
No!
To make the world a worse place and also to annoy me
Probably because of something to do with the pope :)
Because fascist Mussolini restored the temporal power of the pope in the 1920s
It’s actually a city-state.
Sort of a distinction without much or any meaning. A land locked state in any form.
Millions of Catholics world wide. Better that it is not "owned" by any one country, like Italy.
any of my protestants watching? ✝️
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
@@JewishAtheist Not exactly. The early Christians were Jew, but they broke with Judaism claiming that Jesus was the chosen one. Like an Anakin Skywalker thing. Protestants are more similar to the orthodox who broke away from Rome.
@@JewishAtheist we're not a part of your old testament religion your people even reject Christ as the prophecies Messiah, so technically we are not part of Judaism as we follow the teachings of the Christ.
Balogna? really?
Oi
God is lord✝️❤️
Secrecy Jurisdiction.
40 to 50 degree celsius sa pilipinas hanggang di kayo tumatahimik ng gma family nyo
Are they the Itlaian mafia?
The silence of the Vatican during WWII is shameful. Pius X11's cowardly silence regrading the Holocaust will never be forgotten.
Pius XII was a fierce opponent of nazism and fascism. Rome's rabbi testified that the Pope was responsible for saving 700,000 jews, and later that rabbi converted to catholicism.
He thought it was better to resist silently and help the victims than to vocally oppose it and risk being persecuted and stomped on as well.
@@medievalistas The Vatican re-imagining history. Again lies.
“Why is Israel a country?” We all know why. We’re all just too complacent within the comfortability of our own lives to say it out loud.
because jews needed a state of their own
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
How often do you skröppel a decade? 😢
It’s not real
@@JesusOrDestruction has been since biblical times
To avoid international prosecution and deportation ☠️☠️☠️
You don't exist! Stop imprisoning me!
DEUS VULT
Crhist is King
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
@@JewishAtheist Not really. The early Christians had been Jews but claimed that Jesus wasn't just another prophet in the area but god in human form. They made Jesus the focus of their religion and moved away from Judaism. The new testament wasn't just the old testament in paperback.
Christianity was part of Judaism like rabbinical Judaism before the church
@EvilEgg331 of course. She’s Jewish
@EvilEgg331 The angel who redeems me from all evil, may he bless the children, and may my name and the names of my fathers Abraham and Isaac be called upon them, and may they multiply greatly in the midst of the land.🇮🇱❤️
Why do you keep commenting this it’s an obvious fact, that means nothing
2024 and these People still have Power....😱
What would you expect Christianity is the largest religion and Catholicism is the largest denomination
I really thought it wouldn't be the smallest by LAND AREA, just by population. Turns out the only thing that can be smaller than the Vatican is a state without territory, like Somoliland, Transnistria or France.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area
...so the Pope and his compadres can get away with...stuff🤫
You’re thinking of Hollywood and California
Ped power
can you please talk about the lands of kosovo and its history
It’s not a country
Yes It is
Whatever you say gma buwiset 40 to 60 celsius, hanggang lumayas ka.
Jesus said you are not related to him gma tv family. #cnn