An X3M40i/X3M40d comparison would be good. I've owned both but didn't have the opportunity to do a back to back comparison. From memory though I would say that the X3 M40d is more relaxed and quieter than the M40i version. My preference is for the M40i solely because of the sound of the engine (and even though there's 100 miles less range)!
The 2020 X3 M40i makes it even harder to upgrade to the full M or M Comp editions, IMHO, with the new TU1 "Technical Update" engine revision of the B58. 382 HP in the US variant, 350 bar higher pressure fuel system for less pollution and a higher fuelling limit if you decide to get a tune, new chain drive system which reduces friction by 30% and hopefully makes the chains last longer, also a new lighter weight forged crank (reduced rotating intertia by 25%). 4.4 sec 0-60 vs 4.6 in the 2019. This is the same engine as the 2020 Toyota Supra now with the integrated "hedifold" and gets 440 WHP with just a flash tune... Now includes M Sport Steering Wheel, Live Cockpit Pro and iDrive 7, too.
Actually, there was no upgrade whatsoever. Simply put, BMW corrected the performance information that was incorrectly provided on the 2018 and 2019 models. Every single M40i owner of the 2018 and 2019 models knew full well the window sticker specs were wrong. Dyno tests proved it. At least now BMW is providing more correct information on the sticker for 2020 ;-)
PC Gamer The infotainment and some parts in the interior have changed, includes the new gauges aswell seen on the X5 and X7. And yes they did add power to the US spec.
Good video, I love my X3M, I normally drive it in sports mode because comfort doesn’t pick up as much. Like you said it’s meant to be driven hard. Most days I enjoy driving it. Rarely put it in sports plus. Currently have the factory fitted tyres and on certain roads I have to slow right down. My drive to the golf club on the Felixstowe waterfront is an absolute nightmare, can’t get above 25 mph, and I just laugh all the way down the road as I’m flung around in the cockpit! Putting weight in the car seriously reduces the performance. Way much more than expected. I’ll keep it for the term of the PCP. Previously owned a F10 M5 that I got shot of sharp as it tried to kill me constantly. Went from,one extreme to another and had the amazing ride 520d. Just not enough enjoyment in that car. Tried the M2 before I bought the X3M, can’t get the golf clubs in! What next? 8 550i convertible?
Awesome comparison lads! I own X4 M40i here in Sydney Australia and I love this car. Was waiting for the X4 M to come out but I think I ended up making the right choice. Not a big fan of the drop down tow bar and surprised the car cannot tow more to be honest as it has the same towing stats as the lesser engine models. We are a bit obsessed here with going off road in the bush, wonder whether anyone had done a 2inch lift and fitted BF tyres to an X4 M40i before with a kangaroo bar? 🇦🇺😁🇦🇺. Keep up the great reviews. Scouser downunder...
I might be one of a very few, but I actually like the old school turbo lag. I think it really adds to character. It just might not fit the SUV as you guys mentioned.
Just drove the x3m competition yesterday at Bavarian in Belfast. They have an incredible deal just started yesterday with £20k off the list price!!! £5000 deposit and £499 a month.....😲😲 Incredible car, but definitely think the m40i is the better all rounder! Great video and review!
@@myou6675 no, I had an M2 at the time which I was loving, however I have since changed recently to the new x5 for various reasons which is superb! However if I had to choose between X3M Comp and RS4, I’d probably go with the RS4, it’s just a phenomenal car, unless you want to have the higher experience/ride. Both great cars though!
I just got the X3 M Competition and I'm over the moon with it, was concerned about Joe's comments about the stiffness of the ride, but I like the firmer ride to be fair, just handed my not so practical M4 Comp back to BMW and not sorry I made the switch to an SUV. Mine is the 2019 version with v6 iDrive of the OS just wish I had the new version 7 iDrive on the 2020 models
Hey I currently have m4 comp and just had a kid so am getting the x3m - I don’t think the ride is as bad as they making it out to be. Can’t be worse than my current m4 comp!!
Inderpal Hothi from my discoveries I found out that m40d feels exactly like m40i when accelerating, it is just the different with the sound, you do not get that beautiful b58 sound u get in the gas one, instead when you are in sport plus you get only the synthetic sound from the speakers on the diesel
@@tysontao3212 Tyson I brought the m40d because I thought I was going to be doing lots of miles ! In seven months, ends up I have only done 4k. I am impressed with the torque and the handling but would be good to see a back to back regardless!
Thanks for the review. I recently bought an X4M Competition with a mega spec for £450 a month less than your finance example. An £85,845 hot SUV for a similar PCP payment to a Volkswagen T-Roc R, and miles cheaper than an X3 M40. After watching your reviews I was worried about the ride quality, but in my opinion it's not quite as bad as made out and I don't require a cushion. The ride reminds me of my old 911 Turbo (991.2), both being harsh up to 50 MPH but improving as speed gathers, as does the body control. Whilst the engine is quiet, it does sound better than the 911 Turbo as well. I bought it as a performance daily, not as a sports car. It's quite refined as the speed gathers, perhaps too much so, as you feel very insulated from the pace you are travelling it on the motorway. 80 MPH is under 2,000 rpm in top gear, which makes for relaxing progress. Performance is swift, much more junior supercar than hot hatch. I'd say it's a match for my new Vantage, which replaced my 911 Turbo, although the noise isn't as sweet. My biggest gripe is the exterior mirrors, which are huge and cause a bad blind spot. The overall package is outstanding, especially with the outrageous PCP deals on at the moment, although I'd recommend finding one with comfort, parking assistant plus and driving assistant plus packs, which helps fill the gaps in the standard specs for a car of this price range.
Good to hear! Yeah BMW UK sold about 3 in the first 6 weeks of sale, then they discounted the arse out of them and literally sold thousands of them... Only issue is now most of them seem to be getting written off by people who haven't ever driven anything close to 500bhp and 2 tons. Incredible value though so totally get it 👌
I have owned my M40i since March and was lucky to have an X3MComp for the day on Saturday and agree wholeheartedly with you both. The X3MComp was great and as a second fun car (as if) it would be great but to be honest only comes into its own over the M40i at higher speeds or conering a bit faster than should be done of busy UK roads. A great car BUT. Totally agree with comment regarding adaptive dampers on M40i, so glad I chose the option.
Haha great to hear man, had quite a few people on here criticise Pete and I for being biased.... Thought the whole point of a twin test is to pick a winner 😂👌
Thanks for he review, I was thinking about going for a X3M but I think I will stick with my X3 M40i it does everything I want it to do, I don't think I can justify that difference in price..
Great vid guys. Great back to back. I prefer the m40i. I own the 2018 USA version loud as hell and did the same thing - changed the 21 tires out and the entire thing is much closer to the M.
I just test drove one yesterday. (I’m getting the M40i but they didn’t have one in stock so I test drove the M.) I didn’t find it jarring at all. Agree that the seats are quite firm and it did need to be in higher revs to appreciate the power.
The test near the end....thank you. Indicates true daily use. Think am sold on value and daily use of the m40i over the high price tag of the x3m. Thank you for the video! Well done!
Not often I can be bothered to sit through a 45min video, but I was interested in the comparison and Pete is a good mate and knows what he’s on about. Agree with others, we need a M40i and M40d test 👍🏼
I'm convinced BMW uses the softest plastic possible. All those scratches and swirls add up to an interior that although perfectly clean, just doesn't look new for very long. So, you feel like you need a new one, and poof... BMW has more of your money. I swiped my brand new M850i console, with my finger just to feel it, and that left scratches that are there to this day! My finger scratched the plastic. And I work on a computer all day, very soft hands! Love the Oyster leather. Love it!
Great comparison guys. I'm looking to replace my 340i Touring, with either an X3 M40i or 540i Touring. The X3 seems like a good all-rounder, look forward to driving one!
So an update. I recently tried the X3 M40i and the X3M. I bought the X3M. For me the ride was perfectly fine, remember, this is an M car. The x340i was just too similar (obviously) to my outgoing 340i touring, just a little higher and newer tech. The X3M felt like a different car, and like a said earlier the ride is fine, in fact I’d say it’s more comfortable than my outgoing 340i touring (with variable dampers). Also, the deals on the X3m right now are ridiculous. I got 22.5k off list, 2.9% APR on PCP
Owning a Z4M coupe I know what a dedicated sports machine can feel like-with the weather here u must have a winter vehicle and so far the X3M40i has been superb. Engine and trans are brilliant! No need for the X3MComp- ive got my summer toy stored for the season. Cheers.
Because some people don’t do the mileage for a diesel but don’t want to break the bank going to work and back yet still want something fast, if that’s ok with you.
I’ve been driving my m40i in eco mode because the pickup is still there, moving it to comfort or sport in city for quick lane changes. Wouldn’t adaptive suspension pano roof and upgraded stereo are all essentials for anyone wondering
Aftermarket exhaust and map will turn this thing into something else. Free up the flow getting rid of the two off filters and 4 cats the X3M Comp will be a monster.
Watching this from China on my iPad using my data. dreading my bill! My VPN doesn’t work here and in China all google stuff is banned! Great review, Worth it though - confirms what you alluded to in your other review on the X3M. Glad I have the X3M40i . Bimmer ode is a bit of a must with this. Removing the ASD (active sound design) is compulsory. The dials are a nice touch. I have to say that having the heads up display is also good to have, particularly as you quickly get up to illegal speeds and the display glows red to warn you. I keep a pair of non polarised sunglasses in the car. keep up the great work Joe!
Great observation in the comment at ~6:45 on the HUD. That is exactly why I have 2 pairs of non-polarized sunglasses that live in my car. Tony wouldn't have any problem with the HUD if he used non-polarized lenses that are still of sufficient quality to protect his eyes. I test drove an Outback Wilderness recently, and couldn't even see the infotainment screen due to how terribly bad the screen is (polarized lenses make bad screen tech reveal itself, unfortunately also an issue for every HUD implementation I've seen).
Will you be getting your hands on the G20 M340i Xdrive in the near future? Will be good to see the differences between that & the M3 when it comes out.
What’s best pick: 2015-2017 Macan turbo, stelvio QV, x3m, x3 m40i? Really tempted on Macan due to exceptional ride quality but have reliability concerns.
Good video as usual, if a smidge long! Quite often the sweet spot in the range is not the sportiest model, that said I’d take the new 3-series Touring M340i over both of these as cheaper, lighter, lower COG/better handling, better economy, nicer looks/image (in my opinion of course). 👍🏻
Cheers man! Yeah we got carried away with time and filming, the edit took literally days... 🤦🏻♂️ Agree, I think the new M340i touring is gonna be mega, can't wait to drive it soon 👌 Cheers for watching
Seconded. I traded m40i for an x3mc after a year because I knew all along that I really wanted the M but couldn’t find one in my price range, so I settled for the 40i. The x3m is better in every way possible, and honestly, the suspension is totally fine for road trips and DDing in comfort mode.
Great video chaps, detailed but still interesting and entertaining. The X3M has fit the brief it was set right? To give it some space and differentiation to the M40i it would have to be sharper, harder edged and faster. If it wasn't what would be the point of it? But as you've found for the road that's not necessarily better. It's the philosophy of my favourite flavour of BMW - Alpina. I'd imagine the X3M will be a relatively rare sight on the road, until perhaps some crazy deals get offered on them. Until then the M40i looks the smart option. Sounds better to my ear too.
@@PetrolheadTours Suspect they see no point given the M40i exists. The XD3 probably only exists to cover that niche in the range (of a high powered derv SUV)
@@PetrolheadTours Hmm, good point. Difficult to understand BMW's approach to these things as the XD3 and M40d won't differ much in performance. Different offering in the 5 Series range. All a bit odd.
Great video, however it's ruined by all the commercials you allow. The exhaust sounds better on the M40i. I agree completely with Pete and your evaluations of the M40i vs the X3MC.
I'd go M40i. More than fast and capable enough on UK roads and the monthly payment difference is huge... ..for me anyway 😂 BTW great video Joe - im a merc man but i seem to be drawn into watching your videos. Subscribed 👊🏼
Petrolhead Tours exactly my thoughts. Practicality vs fun. We have a 3 series touring at the moment. Do you think the X3 is a step up in practically over the 3 wagon? The interior space appears to be quite similar.
Jeremy Funnell I came from an F31 340i and the front seat space and rear seat space is definitely a huge improvement in spaciousness and quality. The boot size is similar, but the shape of the X3 boot is squarer and hence more useable. I’d say the X3 is on a par with a G31 wagon in terms of useable space in front, in back, and in the boot. And the X3 M40i is way more fun than the F31 340i.
@@PetrolheadTours I agree- I had an X5 40d and a 340i estate and my X3M40i beats both of them easily in comfort and thrills. Super happy with mine; still weird though that the full X3M is not as good or actually better as £20K+ more money
Joe, I love your channel and videos. Could you please please PLEASE do a review on the BMW X3 M40d. I’m really curious to see what you think of it as I want to purchase one. Keep up the good work.
brilliant video mate! it‘s always a pleasure to listen to you talking about cars.. not only because you‘re brilliant in putting your thoughts/impressions into words, but also because there is enthusiasm 👌🏽
The gear ratios are the same between the two cars but the X3 M40i has a 3.385 final drive ratio and the X3M has a 3.150 ratio, but combined with the slightly different tyre sizes this means that at the same speed in the same gear the X3 M40i will be at 5% higher rpm which may help very slightly with the lag issue against the X3M
@@PetrolheadTours ohh yes absolutely, the difference is much much larger than that. Thank you so much for that comparison by the way in the video, you and Joe are the first people to have done this test. It reminds me of driving an A45 which is very laggy but goes crazy past 3000rpm. I found that quite annoying to drive compared to my S63tu M6 on the motorway as it needed to be dropped a few gears to get anywhere. I've driven an X3 M40i and that felt similar to the S63tu in where it comes on boost, just obviously not as quick.
Just found this video while doing some research on the X3M. Tbh guys this video doesn't really make much sence. It seems that you had both already decided that the M was inferior and took the opportunity to criticise it at every opportunity. We now know the S58 is epic and much loved while also being ultra tunable. What was the point of doing acceleration tests when you knew the S58 made power higher up the RPM range. Rather than pointless comparissons from low rpm why didn't you really demonstarte what a ballistic suv the X3M actually is? It might ride harder (remidied on the face lift model) but it also goes and corners a lot harder too. Thanks anyway.
Brilliant video and so pleased I now got my X3 M40i in March. It is such a practical car which sounds great and puts a smile on my face every time I get in it. Have done some coding as well. No ASD, starts in adaptive, and rolls Royce ringtones. 😀 Just wanted to ask, where did Pete get the dog guard and cage from? Need one for ours.
M40d vs M40i must be the most relevant test, I currently drive the 3.0d M Sport Plus and it’s pretty rapid. Would love to see how you rate the M40d.....
What camera did you use to video this ? And what drone ... just interested as the other half is a professional photographer who works for Panasonic as a product expert ... and I have an M40i so have made her endure this video :D
I absolutely love my 2021 X3 M40i. The problem finding the tires with the 21” inch option. 245/40/21 Fronts, 275/35/21 Rears as proper pairs. Don’t know why there aren’t many options. Mostly only the Bridgestone Alenza RFT’s. Wish the seat went back a little more and was a little wider too, but that’s not as a big issue as finding tires.
Brilliant video, Joe, very informative - bought my wife the M40i in 2018, very similar spec to Pete and the pre-OPF sound is great! Very interested in the comments about coding out the ASD and replacing the dials with the Alpina ones - would Pete mind sharing how he achieved this, was it using something like Bimmercode? Have never used anything like that before, but sounds amazing! I wonder what features it can unlock on my M5!! Keep up the good work!
i don't know why i like stiff cars and i feel more safe in it maybe because i drive my car super hard and i need that, well don't think that i go crazy and drive flat out all the way like a moron i drive with full control of the car
Hopefully try the new XD3 soon, far as I know it's a similar price to the X3M spec for spec? Also finance deals on ALPINA's here in the UK are quite poor, therefore mean you pay a fair amount more, this might have changed now though
So now I know why my 2019 X3 M40i doesn’t crackle and pop. I’m a little disappointed that my local BMW Genius didn’t know the reason. Is there a video on how to get the Alpina dials? They were cool. Also, is there a way to know if my car is fitted with the e-dif? I’m in Portugal.
Calvin Chann you need to code the dials - the easiest way to do this is with an app on your phone, I use BimmerCode or Carly. As for the diff, if you put your VIN number into a vin decoder like mdecoder or similar it should come up if you have the diff. The code for the diff option is S2T4A 👍
JED SANDS not legally... ideally you’d take out the OPF and code out the subsequent check engine light, but that would mess with warranty and with MOT (three years later). Hopefully Remus will come out with something though...
I heard you mention factory debadge. Was that a real option? Wish my 2019 M40i had no badges. Also interesting the 2018 has the badges up higher than in 2019.
I criticised your companion in the previous video as having no personality and nothing to say....apologies this was informative and interesting and importantly engaging chemistry between the two of you...👍
Great video guys. But would the X3M without the “Competition” badge be a good compromise between these two? Would probably be the same difference like the M5 and M5 Competition you tested earlier this year, don’t you think so Joe?
An X3M40i/X3M40d comparison would be good. I've owned both but didn't have the opportunity to do a back to back comparison. From memory though I would say that the X3 M40d is more relaxed and quieter than the M40i version. My preference is for the M40i solely because of the sound of the engine (and even though there's 100 miles less range)!
100 miles isnt that bad given the weight disadvantage the diesel has and the platform they are both based on
The 2020 X3 M40i makes it even harder to upgrade to the full M or M Comp editions, IMHO, with the new TU1 "Technical Update" engine revision of the B58. 382 HP in the US variant, 350 bar higher pressure fuel system for less pollution and a higher fuelling limit if you decide to get a tune, new chain drive system which reduces friction by 30% and hopefully makes the chains last longer, also a new lighter weight forged crank (reduced rotating intertia by 25%). 4.4 sec 0-60 vs 4.6 in the 2019. This is the same engine as the 2020 Toyota Supra now with the integrated "hedifold" and gets 440 WHP with just a flash tune...
Now includes M Sport Steering Wheel, Live Cockpit Pro and iDrive 7, too.
Actually, there was no upgrade whatsoever. Simply put, BMW corrected the performance information that was incorrectly provided on the 2018 and 2019 models. Every single M40i owner of the 2018 and 2019 models knew full well the window sticker specs were wrong. Dyno tests proved it. At least now BMW is providing more correct information on the sticker for 2020 ;-)
PC Gamer The infotainment and some parts in the interior have changed, includes the new gauges aswell seen on the X5 and X7. And yes they did add power to the US spec.
Good video, I love my X3M, I normally drive it in sports mode because comfort doesn’t pick up as much. Like you said it’s meant to be driven hard. Most days I enjoy driving it. Rarely put it in sports plus. Currently have the factory fitted tyres and on certain roads I have to slow right down. My drive to the golf club on the Felixstowe waterfront is an absolute nightmare, can’t get above 25 mph, and I just laugh all the way down the road as I’m flung around in the cockpit! Putting weight in the car seriously reduces the performance. Way much more than expected. I’ll keep it for the term of the PCP. Previously owned a F10 M5 that I got shot of sharp as it tried to kill me constantly. Went from,one extreme to another and had the amazing ride 520d. Just not enough enjoyment in that car. Tried the M2 before I bought the X3M, can’t get the golf clubs in! What next? 8 550i convertible?
Awesome comparison lads! I own X4 M40i here in Sydney Australia and I love this car. Was waiting for the X4 M to come out but I think I ended up making the right choice. Not a big fan of the drop down tow bar and surprised the car cannot tow more to be honest as it has the same towing stats as the lesser engine models.
We are a bit obsessed here with going off road in the bush, wonder whether anyone had done a 2inch lift and fitted BF tyres to an X4 M40i before with a kangaroo bar? 🇦🇺😁🇦🇺. Keep up the great reviews. Scouser downunder...
I might be one of a very few, but I actually like the old school turbo lag. I think it really adds to character. It just might not fit the SUV as you guys mentioned.
Just drove the x3m competition yesterday at Bavarian in Belfast. They have an incredible deal just started yesterday with £20k off the list price!!! £5000 deposit and £499 a month.....😲😲
Incredible car, but definitely think the m40i is the better all rounder! Great video and review!
I know this is a year on...but did you end up buying an X3m from Bavarian. Current f80 m3 comp owner and considering an X3m or RS4/ RS5 sportback.
@@myou6675 no, I had an M2 at the time which I was loving, however I have since changed recently to the new x5 for various reasons which is superb! However if I had to choose between X3M Comp and RS4, I’d probably go with the RS4, it’s just a phenomenal car, unless you want to have the higher experience/ride. Both great cars though!
@@davidbest492 thanks for taking the time to reply, cheers.
I just got the X3 M Competition and I'm over the moon with it, was concerned about Joe's comments about the stiffness of the ride, but I like the firmer ride to be fair, just handed my not so practical M4 Comp back to BMW and not sorry I made the switch to an SUV. Mine is the 2019 version with v6 iDrive of the OS just wish I had the new version 7 iDrive on the 2020 models
Hey I currently have m4 comp and just had a kid so am getting the x3m - I don’t think the ride is as bad as they making it out to be. Can’t be worse than my current m4 comp!!
Joe mate - we need to see a comparison of the m40d v the m40i - not a single decent review on the web!
Inderpal Hothi from my discoveries I found out that m40d feels exactly like m40i when accelerating, it is just the different with the sound, you do not get that beautiful b58 sound u get in the gas one, instead when you are in sport plus you get only the synthetic sound from the speakers on the diesel
@@tysontao3212
Tyson I brought the m40d because I thought I was going to be doing lots of miles ! In seven months, ends up I have only done 4k. I am impressed with the torque and the handling but would be good to see a back to back regardless!
Inderpal Hothi I own the m40i, and I love it the fuel economy is pretty good as long as you do not floor it all the time
Thanks for the review. I recently bought an X4M Competition with a mega spec for £450 a month less than your finance example. An £85,845 hot SUV for a similar PCP payment to a Volkswagen T-Roc R, and miles cheaper than an X3 M40. After watching your reviews I was worried about the ride quality, but in my opinion it's not quite as bad as made out and I don't require a cushion. The ride reminds me of my old 911 Turbo (991.2), both being harsh up to 50 MPH but improving as speed gathers, as does the body control. Whilst the engine is quiet, it does sound better than the 911 Turbo as well.
I bought it as a performance daily, not as a sports car. It's quite refined as the speed gathers, perhaps too much so, as you feel very insulated from the pace you are travelling it on the motorway. 80 MPH is under 2,000 rpm in top gear, which makes for relaxing progress. Performance is swift, much more junior supercar than hot hatch. I'd say it's a match for my new Vantage, which replaced my 911 Turbo, although the noise isn't as sweet. My biggest gripe is the exterior mirrors, which are huge and cause a bad blind spot.
The overall package is outstanding, especially with the outrageous PCP deals on at the moment, although I'd recommend finding one with comfort, parking assistant plus and driving assistant plus packs, which helps fill the gaps in the standard specs for a car of this price range.
Good to hear! Yeah BMW UK sold about 3 in the first 6 weeks of sale, then they discounted the arse out of them and literally sold thousands of them... Only issue is now most of them seem to be getting written off by people who haven't ever driven anything close to 500bhp and 2 tons. Incredible value though so totally get it 👌
I have owned my M40i since March and was lucky to have an X3MComp for the day on Saturday and agree wholeheartedly with you both. The X3MComp was great and as a second fun car (as if) it would be great but to be honest only comes into its own over the M40i at higher speeds or conering a bit faster than should be done of busy UK roads. A great car BUT. Totally agree with comment regarding adaptive dampers on M40i, so glad I chose the option.
Haha great to hear man, had quite a few people on here criticise Pete and I for being biased.... Thought the whole point of a twin test is to pick a winner 😂👌
Thanks guys.Greetings from Chicago. Really enjoyed the ride you gave me through the lovely English countryside. I will be buying an M40i next year.
Thanks for he review, I was thinking about going for a X3M but I think I will stick with my X3 M40i it does everything I want it to do, I don't think I can justify that difference in price..
Great vid guys. Great back to back. I prefer the m40i. I own the 2018 USA version loud as hell and did the same thing - changed the 21 tires out and the entire thing is much closer to the M.
changed to what
It takes a lot to get me to sit through a 45 minute video! That was an excellent video guys....👍🏻
Andrew Gibbs thanks 🙏
I just test drove one yesterday. (I’m getting the M40i but they didn’t have one in stock so I test drove the M.) I didn’t find it jarring at all. Agree that the seats are quite firm and it did need to be in higher revs to appreciate the power.
Joe another great video 👍 like a few others have mentioned a X3 M40i vs M40d would be a good future vid. Cheers
Such an underrated channel... great work Joe
Thank you 🙌
The test near the end....thank you. Indicates true daily use. Think am sold on value and daily use of the m40i over the high price tag of the x3m. Thank you for the video! Well done!
Strangely the X3M sounds worse setting still at rev but better when on the move to me.🤔
Not often I can be bothered to sit through a 45min video, but I was interested in the comparison and Pete is a good mate and knows what he’s on about.
Agree with others, we need a M40i and M40d test 👍🏼
Rob Joyce cheers Rob
Petrolhead Tours just curious how many miles have you logged so far and has it continued to be reliable and worry free?
that x3 m is absolutely stunning i have to say! the colour i think really sets it off. incredibly desirable. want!
I'm convinced BMW uses the softest plastic possible. All those scratches and swirls add up to an interior that although perfectly clean, just doesn't look new for very long. So, you feel like you need a new one, and poof... BMW has more of your money. I swiped my brand new M850i console, with my finger just to feel it, and that left scratches that are there to this day! My finger scratched the plastic. And I work on a computer all day, very soft hands!
Love the Oyster leather. Love it!
Definitely need more videos with Pete as a co-host.
Great comparison, guys! Thank you so much! It'd be super cool to compare 2022 models! :)
Great comparison guys. I'm looking to replace my 340i Touring, with either an X3 M40i or 540i Touring. The X3 seems like a good all-rounder, look forward to driving one!
So an update. I recently tried the X3 M40i and the X3M. I bought the X3M. For me the ride was perfectly fine, remember, this is an M car. The x340i was just too similar (obviously) to my outgoing 340i touring, just a little higher and newer tech. The X3M felt like a different car, and like a said earlier the ride is fine, in fact I’d say it’s more comfortable than my outgoing 340i touring (with variable dampers). Also, the deals on the X3m right now are ridiculous. I got 22.5k off list, 2.9% APR on PCP
@@simonwilson7460 Would you mind saying which dealer this was?
Simon Norsworthy Sytner Sheffield. Had a few cars from them now and they have always been great to me.
@@simonwilson7460 Thanks!
Joe and the drone is back. Nice work.
Owning a Z4M coupe I know what a dedicated sports machine can feel like-with the weather here u must have a winter vehicle and so far the X3M40i has been superb. Engine and trans are brilliant! No need for the X3MComp- ive got my summer toy stored for the season. Cheers.
Thank you for confirming that I should get the M40i
Great SUV, but hopefully the M3 powerband will be a little flatter, that's the one thing I don't like about the X#M it takes to long for the turbos.
Glad I got the M40i after watching that.
Such a great allrounder.
That lack low down grunt I’m shocked by. How to make a fast car feel slow.
We love Pete and his shorts loving ways! Great spec X3 M40i
Anup 😂 thanks man 😁
Pete in shorts as ever ! WIll add it to our watch list for later..
What is the point of that test at the end??? Why on earth test an m car at 1000rpm? Usability as a daily? Go buy a diesel...
Because some people don’t do the mileage for a diesel but don’t want to break the bank going to work and back yet still want something fast, if that’s ok with you.
Seems like someone is missing the point of how M cars are meant to be driven..
I’ve been driving my m40i in eco mode because the pickup is still there, moving it to comfort or sport in city for quick lane changes. Wouldn’t adaptive suspension pano roof and upgraded stereo are all essentials for anyone wondering
Aftermarket exhaust and map will turn this thing into something else. Free up the flow getting rid of the two off filters and 4 cats the X3M Comp will be a monster.
Has anyone cracked the S58 ECU yet? The B58 is capable of well over 600bhp as people are showing in their Supras
B58 vs S58, great comparison, is it worth the extra money Joe??
Watching this from China on my iPad using my data. dreading my bill! My VPN doesn’t work here and in China all google stuff is banned!
Great review, Worth it though - confirms what you alluded to in your other review on the X3M. Glad I have the X3M40i . Bimmer ode is a bit of a must with this. Removing the ASD (active sound design) is compulsory. The dials are a nice touch. I have to say that having the heads up display is also good to have, particularly as you quickly get up to illegal speeds and the display glows red to warn you. I keep a pair of non polarised sunglasses in the car.
keep up the great work Joe!
Great observation in the comment at ~6:45 on the HUD. That is exactly why I have 2 pairs of non-polarized sunglasses that live in my car. Tony wouldn't have any problem with the HUD if he used non-polarized lenses that are still of sufficient quality to protect his eyes. I test drove an Outback Wilderness recently, and couldn't even see the infotainment screen due to how terribly bad the screen is (polarized lenses make bad screen tech reveal itself, unfortunately also an issue for every HUD implementation I've seen).
Will you be getting your hands on the G20 M340i Xdrive in the near future? Will be good to see the differences between that & the M3 when it comes out.
4:53 almost feels as if this should have been pixelated 😂
It's because of this video I just bought a 2022 X M3 40i. I was going to buy the True M. The new 2022 3M40i is fantastic!
What’s best pick: 2015-2017 Macan turbo, stelvio QV, x3m, x3 m40i?
Really tempted on Macan due to exceptional ride quality but have reliability concerns.
Good video as usual, if a smidge long! Quite often the sweet spot in the range is not the sportiest model, that said I’d take the new 3-series Touring M340i over both of these as cheaper, lighter, lower COG/better handling, better economy, nicer looks/image (in my opinion of course). 👍🏻
Cheers man! Yeah we got carried away with time and filming, the edit took literally days... 🤦🏻♂️ Agree, I think the new M340i touring is gonna be mega, can't wait to drive it soon 👌 Cheers for watching
Would be interesting to see a non competition x3m. The ride should be softer
They only do the competition in the UK
Fantastic video gents. Could watch you two all night (but not in that way). Cheers.
😂 Cheers buddy glad you liked it 👊
Still prefer the X3M.
Seems matey with the M40 is jealous he didn’t get the the X3M 😂🤣 The whole video is just about picking holes in the X3M
I was thinking the same as you. These dudes just bashing the x3m sorry but x3m FTW and it’s not close.
Seconded. I traded m40i for an x3mc after a year because I knew all along that I really wanted the M but couldn’t find one in my price range, so I settled for the 40i. The x3m is better in every way possible, and honestly, the suspension is totally fine for road trips and DDing in comfort mode.
Instant like just because hours of work to get/edit/etc a 45 min video. #joeisking
M40i sounds better at stand still. I love driving mine. I was thinking of replacing my x5 40e with the x3m but you guys made me change my mind.
The way joe praises his mates car but knowing full will his is way better. Lol.
I’ve always said the same about the lack of M Touring cars. Great vid guys.
Ah nice loving the footage of my current daily commute road :)
Where is this shot?
Footage probably showing gentler driving than your commute ! Hehe :)
Roger Graham Oxfordshire 👍
Why would you put ithe x3m in manual for this test? Who is going to drive like that?
literally everyone with a brain
Great video chaps, detailed but still interesting and entertaining.
The X3M has fit the brief it was set right? To give it some space and differentiation to the M40i it would have to be sharper, harder edged and faster. If it wasn't what would be the point of it?
But as you've found for the road that's not necessarily better. It's the philosophy of my favourite flavour of BMW - Alpina.
I'd imagine the X3M will be a relatively rare sight on the road, until perhaps some crazy deals get offered on them. Until then the M40i looks the smart option. Sounds better to my ear too.
Asim Humayun I like the idea of the XD3, but wish they’d do an XB3...
@@PetrolheadTours Suspect they see no point given the M40i exists. The XD3 probably only exists to cover that niche in the range (of a high powered derv SUV)
Asim Humayun but BMW also make an X3 M40d...
@@PetrolheadTours Hmm, good point. Difficult to understand BMW's approach to these things as the XD3 and M40d won't differ much in performance. Different offering in the 5 Series range. All a bit odd.
Great video, however it's ruined by all the commercials you allow. The exhaust sounds better on the M40i.
I agree completely with Pete and your evaluations of the M40i vs the X3MC.
This video cost me an arm and a leg to produce, adverts at least give me a few quid back over time....
I'd go M40i. More than fast and capable enough on UK roads and the monthly payment difference is huge... ..for me anyway 😂 BTW great video Joe - im a merc man but i seem to be drawn into watching your videos. Subscribed 👊🏼
cy rose £400 a month buys a lot of petrol right? 😁👍
@@PetrolheadTours it makes even more sense since you put it that way 👊🏼
X3m competition is and absolute beast. My brother has one in the sandstorm colour. It pulls like a friggin train
Just the review I was after. Thanks mate. Trying to decide between the X3M40i and an X5 30D
Jeremy Funnell X5 will be softer and more luxurious, but the X3 is way more fun 😁
Petrolhead Tours exactly my thoughts. Practicality vs fun. We have a 3 series touring at the moment. Do you think the X3 is a step up in practically over the 3 wagon? The interior space appears to be quite similar.
Jeremy Funnell I came from an F31 340i and the front seat space and rear seat space is definitely a huge improvement in spaciousness and quality. The boot size is similar, but the shape of the X3 boot is squarer and hence more useable. I’d say the X3 is on a par with a G31 wagon in terms of useable space in front, in back, and in the boot.
And the X3 M40i is way more fun than the F31 340i.
@@PetrolheadTours I agree- I had an X5 40d and a 340i estate and my X3M40i beats both of them easily in comfort and thrills. Super happy with mine; still weird though that the full X3M is not as good or actually better as £20K+ more money
Great video Joe!! I feel the x3m sounds better and more natural 🤷🏻♂️
Joe, I love your channel and videos. Could you please please PLEASE do a review on the BMW X3 M40d. I’m really curious to see what you think of it as I want to purchase one. Keep up the good work.
brilliant video mate! it‘s always a pleasure to listen to you talking about cars.. not only because you‘re brilliant in putting your thoughts/impressions into words, but also because there is enthusiasm 👌🏽
Wish I brought a m40i instead of my epace 😢
Absolutely love your reviews Joe. Fantastic content. Looking forward to the next one 👌
Nice video I do like the X3 m styling and Colour combination but everyday usability the x3 m40i is the way to go I guess
The gear ratios are the same between the two cars but the X3 M40i has a 3.385 final drive ratio and the X3M has a 3.150 ratio, but combined with the slightly different tyre sizes this means that at the same speed in the same gear the X3 M40i will be at 5% higher rpm which may help very slightly with the lag issue against the X3M
Brad Collins good info 👍
But the difference in roll on was way more than 5% would suggest...
@@PetrolheadTours ohh yes absolutely, the difference is much much larger than that. Thank you so much for that comparison by the way in the video, you and Joe are the first people to have done this test. It reminds me of driving an A45 which is very laggy but goes crazy past 3000rpm. I found that quite annoying to drive compared to my S63tu M6 on the motorway as it needed to be dropped a few gears to get anywhere. I've driven an X3 M40i and that felt similar to the S63tu in where it comes on boost, just obviously not as quick.
Just found this video while doing some research on the X3M. Tbh guys this video doesn't really make much sence. It seems that you had both already decided that the M was inferior and took the opportunity to criticise it at every opportunity. We now know the S58 is epic and much loved while also being ultra tunable. What was the point of doing acceleration tests when you knew the S58 made power higher up the RPM range. Rather than pointless comparissons from low rpm why didn't you really demonstarte what a ballistic suv the X3M actually is? It might ride harder (remidied on the face lift model) but it also goes and corners a lot harder too. Thanks anyway.
Having driven both I have been the proud owner of my X3M for over a year now & would not give the M40i a 2nd look.
Way way more special. I drove both and the x3mc is next level. I have an 2020 m340i xdrive and want to trade for x3mc
Good for you
Brilliant video and so pleased I now got my X3 M40i in March. It is such a practical car which sounds great and puts a smile on my face every time I get in it. Have done some coding as well. No ASD, starts in adaptive, and rolls Royce ringtones. 😀
Just wanted to ask, where did Pete get the dog guard and cage from? Need one for ours.
Travall dog guard and divider. Brilliant. Had them on a few cars, they always fit really well with no rattles or squeaks.
Love my x3m40i. Good comparison. X3m is just too harsh for day to day driving
Great video, thoroughly enjoyed watching
M40d vs M40i must be the most relevant test, I currently drive the 3.0d M Sport Plus and it’s pretty rapid. Would love to see how you rate the M40d.....
Very good video two guys made to make good vids well done.
Thanks!
I would buy an M550i Touring tomorrow if one was available here in the UK
What camera did you use to video this ? And what drone ... just interested as the other half is a professional photographer who works for Panasonic as a product expert ... and I have an M40i so have made her endure this video :D
At 34 minutes he mentions turning off the "AFC" in the B58 engine to make it sound better. What is the AFC? Am I hearing him right?
Fantastic review boys. Really enjoyed it.
all the x3 m40i owners looking in envy every time they see an X3M pass by looking down on them..lol
I absolutely love my 2021 X3 M40i. The problem finding the tires with the 21” inch option. 245/40/21 Fronts, 275/35/21 Rears as proper pairs. Don’t know why there aren’t many options. Mostly only the Bridgestone Alenza RFT’s. Wish the seat went back a little more and was a little wider too, but that’s not as a big issue as finding tires.
That's why I went with the 19" tires on my M40i. Also, when I test-drove with both size tires, I noticed a comfort difference right away.
Funny how you said about the radiator guard... my 2019 120d company car did not have one, but my 2019 120i did... odd
Great video Joe as always. An you do Alpina B3 touring please.
Brilliant video, Joe, very informative - bought my wife the M40i in 2018, very similar spec to Pete and the pre-OPF sound is great! Very interested in the comments about coding out the ASD and replacing the dials with the Alpina ones - would Pete mind sharing how he achieved this, was it using something like Bimmercode? Have never used anything like that before, but sounds amazing! I wonder what features it can unlock on my M5!! Keep up the good work!
Bimmercode and/or Carly will do the relevant coding. Really good, really easy.
Good video.. very informative and has helped me to decide between X3M and X3 M40i (I will go for the less powerful but more comfortable one).
Thanks to this video I'm also switching out my runflats. Still not sure what width I'm going for for the Michelin PS4S. 265/40 or 295/35 in the rear
i don't know why i like stiff cars and i feel more safe in it maybe because i drive my car super hard and i need that, well don't think that i go crazy and drive flat out all the way like a moron i drive with full control of the car
i realy want to see 25-60 test in x3 m40d
GLC63S with AMG Performance Exhaust FTW when it comes to sound track.
What dog crate is in the back of the M40i?
Glad to see you got the runner in 😁😉
Hello Joe. The obvious question is - if you're still allowed to - test (borrow) the Alpine X3D - better than both and a lot cheaper than the X3M.
Hopefully try the new XD3 soon, far as I know it's a similar price to the X3M spec for spec? Also finance deals on ALPINA's here in the UK are quite poor, therefore mean you pay a fair amount more, this might have changed now though
Sign me up for that, would love to compare the XD3
Which car would you pick for a roadtrip through North America
So now I know why my 2019 X3 M40i doesn’t crackle and pop. I’m a little disappointed that my local BMW Genius didn’t know the reason. Is there a video on how to get the Alpina dials? They were cool. Also, is there a way to know if my car is fitted with the e-dif? I’m in Portugal.
Calvin Chann you need to code the dials - the easiest way to do this is with an app on your phone, I use BimmerCode or Carly.
As for the diff, if you put your VIN number into a vin decoder like mdecoder or similar it should come up if you have the diff. The code for the diff option is S2T4A 👍
Did they speak about the tire width difference and understeer?
Did you watch the video, surely you can answer your own question?
X3m competition , Is there anyway to improve the sound from exhaust in other words to have the same as America model without restriction we have in uk
JED SANDS not legally... ideally you’d take out the OPF and code out the subsequent check engine light, but that would mess with warranty and with MOT (three years later). Hopefully Remus will come out with something though...
Great watch!
I heard you mention factory debadge. Was that a real option?
Wish my 2019 M40i had no badges. Also interesting the 2018 has the badges up higher than in 2019.
I criticised your companion in the previous video as having no personality and nothing to say....apologies this was informative and interesting and importantly engaging chemistry between the two of you...👍
Alan Wayte thanks! I was very nervous last time - blame the cameras 😁
Just about to pick up a BMW X3 m40i. What customisable settings are recommended for this car?
29:44 lol. yes that was certainly a woah moment.
Great video guys. But would the X3M without the “Competition” badge be a good compromise between these two? Would probably be the same difference like the M5 and M5 Competition you tested earlier this year, don’t you think so Joe?
Sadly the non-Competition version isn't coming to the UK...
Good comparison but the 4th and 6th gear isn‘t the same is it...
Supercars Hunter very close - but the point still stands.