DON'T BUY Pagani design
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- so I personally have four Pagani design watches in my collection it took 5 to make the 4 and at this time I currently have two turds and one decent watch and a second decent watch but is it only decent because I made it be so it did not come from Pagani that way lol 😂😂😂
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I like my Pagani watches. Alot of watch for the money. Stainless steel. Ceramic bezel insert. Saphire crystal. Seiko nh35 movement. Pagani has great , great watches. Just my opinion.
Agreed 100% the quality for the price is unmatched!
agreed, just got the Pagani Hulk I love it
I own a pd 1751 , which is a Tudor ranger homage. Happy about it
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@@Elskarhenke people we are, not bots
People just upset poor people can have good watch with friction of most luxurious watch price
Nobody's upset about affordable watches that are good quality however Pagani design does not make good quality watches at least not in my opinion the mathematics here for my point I totally support anybody that would like to buy a Kronos a San Martin or a suggess if you bother to go and look at all the rest of my videos you will see that just about every video on my channel is of a brand that is not Rolex
Mine has been faultless. The best value watch on the market. Seiko movement. Sapphire,ceramic. Soild bracelet with screws. I have been impressed with it for over a year now .Just my take on it .
I'm glad you're happy with it you are part of the 50% club because 50% of the people here in the comments have had the same exact experience with them that I have
@userxuserx dilligaf besides I don't know how you could see that I don't even see that in my analytics and I don't give a fuk how many people don't like it the facts are the facts and some people that are retarded and have convinced that they bought something of quality when it's in all actuality a giant piece of s***well they can keep on floating down the river of denial it doesn't make a difference to me I'm just here to tell the truth and especially in this day and time and especially in this damn time where people can't even admit there are only two genders bunch of snowflake ass mother f******get butthurt over watches and everything else LMAO 🤣🤣 have a good day
@userxuserx I just went into my analytics seems like you added a zero it's 326 likes to 145 dislikes so I have no idea where you're getting the thousand from and to be perfectly honest it took me a second to figure out how to pull it up in my analytics but that is as per RUclips and I have no problem putting up a screenshot
@userxuserx well according to RUclips analytics it is 325 likes to 145 dislikes and that's all info I can go off of I've never heard of whatever site you were claiming again I have to say I feel like I've been generous by saying is 50/50 according to the stats from RUclips it's 69% agree while 31% disagree
@userxuserx you too
Got 2 Pagani watches, Speedy black dial and Daytona white dial homages both with Seiko VK63 movements. Both run perfect but changed the straps, Milanese on Speedy and Brown leather on Daytona which improved the looks IMO. I cannot be happier with both purchases.
I bought a Meibo cheap-as-shit submariner homage for $4.49 lol. From Temu. It works great! At quick glance, it looks like a Rolex. And I get just was much respect, and attention from the ladies as a real Rolex, which is zero! and I'm saving $30,000 ha!
Very nice!
I have the PD1701 V3 and I simultaneously Love and Hate the watch, if that's even possible.
I love it as a weekend wear. It has the Speedmaster styling I like, it has twice the water resistance of a Speedy. It comes with a sapphire crystal, a ceramic bezel insert, decent case finishing and a Seiko Mecha Quartz movement. The bracelet, while having some sharp edges, is suprisingly solid and well finished.
Over all, it's a great watch to wear in situations where I don't want to wear my actual Bulova Lunar Pilot (Sorry Omega, I'm not spending $6K on a Speedy, and the MoonSwatch is insulting when placed side by side with the Pagani)
What is infuriating about the watch is it keeps better time than my Bulova Lunar Pilot which is operating at 8 times the oscillation of the Pagani. The Lunar Pilot is several times more expensive than the Pagani, and yet performs worse. And I can't blame Bulova, because the Lunar Pilot is in spec. It's just that that the Seiko movement that came in my Pagani is insane.
When you see what Pagani is offering for less than a Benjamin, it's easy to get angry at the entire watch industry. When Seiko doesn't put a sapphire crystal on anything under $500.00, you have to ask why. When a swiss watch company expects you to pay over $250.00 on a plastic watch with a shoddy movement because Omega printed their name on it, you have to ask why.
Pagani Design is not losing money. They are in fact rolling in it, while offering these watches at such low prices. This tells you simply just how much "traditional" watch makers are gouging you for. Even those who focus on "affordable" watches, like Seiko, Tissot, and Citizen, price their products way above what you get a Pagani design for.
Say what you will about them. They specialize in the "homage" market. But behind the "homage" is typically a surprisingly good watch at a hard to beat price point.
Word 👌🏽💪🏼
Beautifully explained. A smartphone with the most insane engineering and technology costs around 1000 to 1500 usd. A wristwatch that comes with archaic tech and engineering compared to smartphones costs more than twice or thrice.This pricing is not at all realistic.
If your UHF quartz Bulova is keeping worse time than a pagani, there is something wrong with it. My lunar pilot loses about 10 secs every 5 months.
@@CT99234 And that is what the Pagani is doing. The lunar pilot is completely in spec. The pagani is simply over achieving.
The manual says to put the time to 6:30 before you make any adjustments such as date exedra. The downfall is you risk damage to the internals if you do not adjust accordingly.
22:00 - 02:00 am
Doesn't make sense. Why didn't you get a refund. Did you screw up the watches yourself? I have 3 pagani's and they all work. Great value.
I returned the Batman they sent a second one I had to use both of them in order to make one good watch as for the Kermit once I got that and I had a problem with it I just didn't feel dealing with it at the time is early in my collection I felt like I could just live with it at the time as for the Pepsi that was given to me buy a viewer but basically when you have multiple watches that have all had a problem and they keep wanting to send you another watch instead of refund the money and be perfectly honest the damn watches are so cheap the shipping is more than the watch is worth especially when dealing with AliExpress however the three I ordered were all through Amazon and trying to get the first one exchanged with such huge pain in the ass when the second one had a problem I just didn't feel like going through the same shit
I think PD is worth the price, especially if you got them from aliexpress, each piece cost about $50-$70.
What a stupid Post. I have many, all are great quality for the money. This guy is clearly to heavy handed!!!
Yeah you wish asshole these watches are complete pieces of shit 4 out of the five were f***** up right out of the box or do you not understand the English language somehow trying to blame me saying I'm heavy-handed how they were broke before I got them and especially in comparison to most other value brands these are a complete waste of money
I got DD40 and DJ41 homages from Pagani and my main complains are badly aligned dials/date wheels/cyclops, and sharp bracelets. No mechanical issues to date, though, but they all have TMI NH35 or NH36 movements. The alignment issues I tried to fix by myself but found it beyond my expertise to do a proper job, so they're staying misaligned. The bracelets are just like every other Chinese bracelet I've got: they need elbow grease, so I bought a cheap Aliexpress nail polisher tool to grind, sand, and polish them. For the money I paid, I'm not complaining.
I can't speak to the quality of their mechanical watches, but I have two of their quartz watches with Japanese movements and I am totally impressed by them. The quality of the finishing, alignments, printing etc., is excellent. No complaints here. In fact they exceed my expectations and I would buy more without hesitation.
I have heard the quartz stuff is better but they have blown it with me personally I am glad to hear you are happy with your purchases but if you think pagani's are good get a Sugess or San Martin night and day difference in quality
@@mr.eswatchreviews I hope so, 3-5 times the price.
In other news a Patek is better quality than an Omega.
Sugess seaman with nh35a went on sale you can get for around $175 $180 so that's nowhere near three to five times the price that's double and you get double the quality San Martin sn0117 with nh35a $117 on sale again nowhere near three to five times that's even less than double so I don't know maybe you need to go back and work on your math and since Pagani design doesn't even offer a true 28,800 beats per hour movement they can't even compete on that level of the three to five times level because all the ones that cost three to five times have a pt5000 or SW 200 so let's compare apples to apples here
@@mr.eswatchreviews you can't moan about the lack of 28,800 bph movement then talk about watches with an nh35a being better.
Okay nobody's saying 35a is better the point is anything with nh35a is comparable to what pagani sells so when comparing prices you need to compare watches with comparable movements the point you try to make was that San Martin's and suggess are three to five times the price and what I'm pointing out is that all the ones that are three to five times the price have a high beat movement so the bottom line is when you compare the Pagani watches to the better watches offered on aliexpress.com that come with an nh35a the very slight difference in price is well worth the extra quality you get
I got rid of all my Pagani watches. I didn’t really have any problems but while the quality is decent for the price, they just lack the final finishing like a SanMartin.
@@goldfools5445 agreed 💯
Reading over reviews online, it seems like they have an issue with automatics. I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt that some issue with the watches not working properly might be do to shipping. I've never transported watches to a jewelry store before, but I doubt they toss it in the back of an Amazon truck and hope for the best.
This doesn't seem to be an issue with watches using Seiko internal parts. Which makes sense.
The wrist strap, I'm not surprised. All the attention went to the actual time piece itself. I can get a new strap at the mall. Not a deal breaker.
It seems to be hit or miss, with the biggest issue being the strap for the wrist, and the second most common issue being the automatic movement, which I think is a combination of quality and shipping.
That being said. Automatics, whether Swiss made or Chinese made, need to be serviced eventually. And I believe you also want to set the date with the watch at a certain time to avoid damaging the movement.
I have a Pagani PD-1728 white dial no issues , I hope you know some Pagani are automatic watches , but I just ordered a mini focus & the crown was broken so I feel your pain
The thing everyone is forgetting is its just hit and miss with these. Theyre great, theyre shit, theyre both.
Exactly 💯 I just had the unfortunate circumstance of landing pretty much all on the s*** side so I will no longer be risking my money and gambling on their product I rather go to the casino for that
Makes perfect sense. There will be an abundance in the comment section who have had good luck or have been completely sold on their first one, it's when you get a handful of them together and start noticing the small things. Poor bezel action. Dreaded Pearle movement which no one knows too much about other than it's hit and miss. Cyclops just plonked on. And 9 times out of 10 the bracelets give up pretty sharpish.
Good video, subjective obviously, nonetheless facts that shouldn't be ignored. Addiesdive + steeldive, or to go 1 better with a company who add their own slight flare, depth charge. A great UK based watch maker.
Also, there is an abundance of Seiko mods on the market that you really cannot go wrong with, maybe spend double what you'd pay but hey Seiko and quality can be used in the same sentence, and no one can abuse you for having a cheap knock off!
Oh feel free to please check out the entire channel as I have pretty much done a review on every Submariner homage on the market and have videos for all of them I'm sure there's a few I might have missed but I have definitely done my research lol with watches in hand
Perfect summary of Pagini. lol
For me, PD watches look good enough and perform well enough for the money, I don't expect them to be some over the top quality watch at this level of asking money. Maybe my expectations of this brand are just low and I accept them for what they are. They are not collector level watches, but they aren't Benyar or whatever level quality either. They are kinda utilitarian in my view and will be replaced eventually. If my band messes up, I'll replace it without a 2nd thought or I repair it with some thread locker, as for my experience of 5 or so in my own collection, they are holding up and working fine. The NH35a is not gonna be some high level smooth movement, if winding feels like crap in it, just replace the movement for dirt cheap yourself. If the watch gets replaced by Amazon and you got a replacement, then just be happy it got replaced and you didn't get stuck with a non-runner... but again, the movement is so cheap, one can just replace it and move on and not buy the brand again, keeping in mind with the higher end affordable brands, you'll still get (most likely) the same movement, but maybe they at least have a cleaner factory and less debris in the movements or something and finishing will probably more to ones expectations. Thanks for the video and your opinion. We all need both sides of the stories to be able to make educated purchases for ourselves.
I understand and what I'm saying is that the other affordable brands on AliExpress you get way more for your money steeldive Kronos San Martin and Sugess all offer way better quality watches for just a little bit more money the other companies also offer these with nh35a nh34A PT 5000 and sw200 movements and no I did not expect absolute perfection out of these watches when I first got them I thought they were pretty good however once I bought more and more watches from AliExpress to view on the channel it became blatantly obvious the deficiencies of Pagani design and if you look on my channel you will find the video where I modified the Pepsi and change the dial hands and movement unfortunately all those parts cost me as much as that watch brand new assembled but since you're going in there you might as well make it the way you want and for myself personally I will not be wasting any more time or money with Pagani design I already know for a fact I would much rather spend an extra 30 to $50 and get a watch that I don't have to do nothing to and will last even longer than the Pagani thank you for watching hopefully you subscribed I'm not here to bash anybody I'm just here to tell the truth and tell it like it is and just like I said in the video it just dawned on me one day that I had gotten four watches myself personally and the other one was from another viewer who bought it brand new and had issues immediately so for my personal experience 4 out of 5 watches being bad is not odds that I am willing to take I am glad that you have had good luck and I hope you continue to enjoy them
You actually dont want to buy the GMT movements only. The other watches have the seiko NH35 movement but the GMT Paganis have their own in house quesrionable movements.
The non gmt watches work just fine. I have one which is running for the last 4 years and going great
I am now on my 10th Pagani. Never had a dud. All working within or better than specs. My Seamaster 300 homage runs at +1 s/d. Your mileage may vary and yes, Pagani wtches have issues, mostly the atrocious lume and sometimes the lack of AR coating, but you can't fault them for the money you have paid for. Frankly, I rather wear my PD-1701 Speedy homage than my original Speedy. The crystal is better, the bezel is better and the mechaquartz keeps time better than the Omega movement. Even the bracelet is acceptable and if you want a different one, at 20mm lug width the world is your oyster. My worst Pagani, the Explorer II homage still runs at 10 s/d.
If only they would have better lume...
Whats 10sd mean
@@davidgrant3648 10 seconds per day, unfortunately, the Pearl movement in the Explorer II is a bit temperamental and fluctuates between -10 and +10 seconds per day.
@@davidgrant3648 10 seconds per day
I have a Pagani ($89) just like the 5th watch in your video... runs great. My bezel doesn't move as much either. Sorry yours were a bad experience.
Thanks for watching Maurice
I got 4 pagani and they all 4 are working well 2 of them were bought in 2019 and they are still running pretty well. Even more acurate than my Skeiko alpinist...
Maybe you didn't biught them at the right place..
I'm glad that you had a good luck these were purchased off of Amazon at least the ones I bought the one from Philo I don't know where he got it from but it was bad or the box
I've purchased 4 Paganis from Aliexpress 3 are now broken. There quality control and customer service is shocking. I am a obsessed collector and reviewer. Avoid and for a few more pounds purchase a San Martin or a steeldive.
Agreed 💯
There quality control is terrible. It's kind of a lottery really. If you get one that works as it should, you have a watch that would cost several hundred $$$/£££, if made by Seiko, Citizen, Tag Heuer etc. They have great quality control, but it's reflected in a much steeper the price of the watch.
My experience with Pagani is good for the moment, but good.
I have several Pagani's and they all work fine.
Good for you now scroll down through these comments and see where at least half of the people have had s***results so consider yourself very lucky that you've gotten decent results
I have 4 Paganis and have had no problems with any of them. My bezel action is decent on all of them. I don’t dive and strictly use my watch to tell time. If I need to time something I use my phone. If the bezel lines up and the action is crappy, I flat out don’t care! The only time I’ve ever rotated any of my bezels was when I first got the watch.
Well I'm glad that you're okay with mediocre quality control as long as you're happy with the watch man that's all that really matters I was just pointing out that statistically a 75% failure rate to one individual is not acceptable much less across the board
if bezel keeps moving, superglue it in place. Prevents yourself playing with it and it wont annoy others
That's about the dumbest thing I've ever heard I actually I've heard dumber instead I think I'll just buy the other brands on AliExpress that actually have good bezel action
I ordered a Pagani on a whim from Ali, but hated the watch when I got it. The bracelet was too shiny, it looked really cheap, like a watch you win at a fair or in an arcade hall. Also I have no clue how to size the bracelet, the holes are incredibly small and I don't have the tools to set it right. So I decided to return it, but the shop where I bought it denied it was ordered at their shop and refused to let me send it back. That was bummer number one. On top of that I then saw I paid almost double the cheapest price for it, other shops had the same watch at a much cheaper price. So not only I paid way too much for a watch that looks like a piece of trash, I wasn't even able to return it. Or wear it (if I wanted to). Last time for me, I will just stick to San Martin watches.
Good choice
Lol😂 yes I owned 9 Paganis and sold all 8. I didn’t know the issues about them. I sold them and used the little money I received for a Hamilton Field Khaki. Only the Mission to Alaska chronograph I kept. 😂
lol
I have 11 of their watches and only have one problem with one which is like you said the crown comes out. It doesn’t pop. I just deal with it in a way that you would deal with $125 quality watch so my point is they’re nice watches for the price long as you take care of them.
@@chrissullivan268 and my point is for just a little bit more money you don't have to deal with none of this b*******you just get a good watch Sugess cronos San Martin Steeldive All kick the s*** out of Pagani in the quality department they are a little more expensive but they are worth it
I own about 20 PD’s……no issues except the last two recently bought on Amazon……two turds in a row…both returned and good ones sent out to replace.
It is “ luck of the draw” with PD and Amazon.
Agreed 💯
You should have choosen the nh34 movement on that, those watches gmt has seiko nh34 movement options now, i love my paganis actually, all of them are seiko nh35
@@oliviersebastian1516 at the time of purchase the NH 34A did not exist and all the rest of them did have an nh35a
the automatic ones are a little questionable, but i have been very happy with their quartz models
Speaking from experience, have had 2 mecca quartz pieces and both have been fine
If you don’t know high quality watch pagani is ok. But if you already have good quality watch as soon as you open the pagani box you feel it’s cheap watch. Really cheap .
Totally agreed 1000% ignorance can be Bliss but once you know you know lol
The guy at the time might be right but I have 3 and for the money excellent. Looks good everything lines up and a good Seiko movement.
Well I'm happy that you've had a good experience but as I explained my position is not going to change as none of these were bought together they were all bought individually but if you really like these check out San Martin and cronos yes they cost a little bit more but you can get the same Seiko movements or even better ones like the PT 5000 or SW 200 in a little bit higher price tag a lot more quality on paper they look similar but if you have them both in your hands the other two brands blow Pagani away
I disagree with your review. I have had few issues with the 35 Pagani Design watches I've bought on Amazon.
The Japanese movements are said to be better than the Chinese ones but still I see little difference. I did have a bracelet screw work its way out after adjusting the links. But a dab of Lock-tight can solve that issue. My purchases were all in the $84 to $150 range, so anything less I would not trust. Hope you have better luck in the future. 🙋♂
Agree, Mr. E. I bought a PD-1758 GMT from AliExpress and the watch was dead right out of the box. Wouldn’t run after winding the piece of junk over 50x. Sent it right back. I think I’ll go for a Seiko GMT.
Look at San Martin and cronos Sugess is also a great option
That's why I buy Invicta I haven't had an issue with none of my watches of that brand Invicta I have like 30 watches automatc and quartz
@@trevorstepoo8838 when I first started collecting the first watches I bought were Invicta Pagani was the second and as far as the dive watches go I agree however I don't buy either brand anymore
I bought some PDs but I refrained from buying more. Too many complaints. So far mines are good. But yes I bought a quarts 3306 and that shit. Sub dial doesn’t reset. I refunded that I have 6 PDs and it’s a wrap.
Thanks for watching
I love my pagani gmt batman, the only time its off my wrist is to change the date, I've had it five years and its always been a good timekeeper, it does gain a little bit over a month, but i can live with that considering what i paid for it
Out of the four on the table that one was my favorite and I never had a problem with that one running it had bracelet issues
I own 6 different Pagani Design automatic watches and have had zero QC or functional issues with any of them. All were purchased from Ali Express and through a variety of Sellers. Difficult to comment on your personal experience but it's the polar opposite to mine... 🙅♀
Well I'm glad you had a good experience at least
I bought the pagani Daytona and it’s was very disappointing quality. Then I bought the pagani 1662 gmt master and it was really impressive. I’m leaving the verdict open for a while.
I got my PAGANI Batman GMT today. I got it knowing what I’m getting into, no expectations. I own a few Heimdallr, SteelDive, Phoibos, and I love each and everyone. This watch looks good, and has good specs. The bracelet is definitely junk, I had to be very careful adjusting it because some of the screws would not budge. The bezel has very minimal back play and side to side play. Rotation is very loose, in comparison. Time keeping accuracy remains to be seen, but thus far it is on time. If it dies on me I’ll use it for parts and practice. But, in the end I would not recommend it. If you’re on a budget, get yourself a G-Shock, or maybe a SteelDive, or a Heimdallr. Sugess’ are on the pricier side of the spectrum but also a good choice.
Agreed 💯💯💯
So on the Pepsi GMT that you saw in the video there that Philo sent me I ordered a nh34a movement new dial in hands they should be here any day now
I have the same one the guy donated to you. The Pepsi looking one. It done the same thing, mine was branded Haqin. It would run when it wanted. It would randomly stop. I took the movement apart and cleaned it. It had hair and dirt, look like it was built in a dusty strip club. I cleaned it up and put a bit of lube on it. It will run now. But it’s still terrible at timekeeping. About 2 minutes fast a day. It has the DG5833GMT movement which is known to be terrible. I’m thinking of trying to put a NH34A movement in it. If I can source parts and can get all 4 hands to regulate. Or I might just throw it away 😅
Yeah if you look on the channel I actually do a mod on this one I put an nh34a in a new dial in hands came out pretty good
My pagani is very good no issues. But havingooked at many reviews I think there is a variable quality on some. My TAG aquaracer is great, so far, but it cannot watch the quality of my real tag thsts 40x more expensive
I have the same watch my problem was with the bracelet. It was a headache two different jewelry stores for the bracelet. When it was fixed the bracelet was still a pain. Finally put it on a Black NATO strap now it’s a great gym watch.
@@ernestclayboniii656 nice yeah their bracelets are pretty shity
@@mr.eswatchreviews No doubt!
Just got mine yesterday. 80 bucks on alix... super disappointed. I sized it, wound it, set it, and put it on. 2 hours later, it's 10 minutes slow. I set it again, wound it 50 times, and put it on before bed.... this morning when I woke up, at 6 am, the watch said 1145pm and the date wheel was mid change. It's already on a return box.
Yeah unfortunately that's par for the course sorry to hear that happened that is why I put this video out 😔
This guy must be smoking the good stuff.
I've got the best
There's a newer model out that has been upgraded with the Seiko NH34 movement. I think these might be better. But they cost twice as much as the older model with the Chinese movement.
I think you are right about that I personally will not risk it any more there are other brands that do a much better job
You must have some pretty freaky bad luck, man.
I've got nine PD watches and haven't even had one issue. And I've got watches from this sort of price all the way up to my 30th birthday Rolex.
No complaints here. 👍
I'm happy for you sir if you read the comments here you will see it's about 55% of people are having issue 45% are not so a higher than average out come for some type of quality control problem I find steeldive is a better option
@@mr.eswatchreviews It perhaps depends on the source too - I buy direct from the PD website.
Yes, I have a couple of Steeldives as well - solid watches. 👍
@mmd3610 it very well may be all of mine came through Amazon but they were all drop shipped by AliExpress
OMG I was gonna sell my Seiko SNK809 next week to buy one of these Pagani Design Watches. ( Model PD- 1736) Now decided to keep the Seiko ! Thanks
Good choice
Embarrassing! Never never would I get these. Why? If you don’t have it save your money and wait.
My Pagani came out perfect to a T for under $50! almost feel like a $300+ watch along with my Seikos and Citizens.
Glad you are happy with it
I have the original GMT And SUB from the other brand, but as walking the streets in France is becoming dangerous with expensive watches I bought 6 pagani on Ali express.. and maybe I got really lucky but beside going forward 2 minutes every 24h I have no issues so far.
Yes I have had 2 links on 2 watches that needed some wd40
2 minutes per day is a terrible running watch and they shouldn't require lube so not sure I would consider that lucky go back to AliExpress get a Sugess, San Martin, or Cronos all three brands are way better by leaps and bounds
Mine is a 38 mm day date homage and it has lasted me 3 years so far looks brand new
I would expect the CCP to say good things lmao about crap made in China
@@mr.eswatchreviews read my name a little closer bud
Many Pagani Design reviews and some people find them to be really good and some find these watches to be excellent or just ok. I am glad to watch this review- presentation because as you are highlighting there are not just QC problems in fact it is clear that is a serous QC f….. up problem these Pagani Design shit brand..
Let’s allow the many who loves them buy them all. !!
Agreed 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯🤣
Not a fan of their Dive watches. However, I do like their Paul Newman Daytona Chronograph with the Seiko mecaquartz. I have one, and really enjoy it. It's not perfect, but should be reliable. I wouldn't swim with them either.
Nice and I agree 💯
Unless your budget is really really bone dry, I wouldn't get a pagani design. Speaking from experience, I have a pagani design, cronos, and a sugess. Both are more than twice the price as pagani but well worth it
Agreed 💯💯💯💯💯
I am guessing that the two GMT's are both using the Pearl movements. You are lucky to get one that seems to be behaving (for now!). I have had a fairly good run with PD, except for my Exporer 2 GMT and a quartz chrono.....these both ended up in the garbage bin. You pay your small amount of money (mostly) for these cheap chinese knock-offs and hope for the best........sometimes you win and other times not.
I got a Pagani PD-1662 red and blue and it worked for a while and now the stem does not do anything-cannot set the time or even screw it back in. I got a Seiko NH34 watch movement to replace the junky movement that came with it. Looking for a video where someone does that!! I agree with you-they are just junk!!
I'm not saying it's the best video but I actually have a video on my channel where I swapping nh34a in the Pepsi pagani
These watches are barely a 100 dollars in Aliexpress and youre sleeping with it on your arm.who knows what pressure and angles when sleeping you put on the watch.its a 100 dollar watch max i dont know what your expecting.
I expect them to perform like every other watch I own regardless of the price tag I own several other brands around the same price point none of them have had the issues that the pagani's have had loreo steeldive Invicta are all made way better
Got 3 pagani’s… they’re fine… 🤷♂️
good for you I'm glad you had good luck
I sold all my authentic luxury watches spanning from Rolex to Grand Seikos for homages. 😂 I made money from them already not that it was goal in the first place. I just like watches in general from cheap Casios to very expensive timepieces. Once people get taste of luxury, you eventually get sick of them. Also I can wear these homages anytime and if I get robbed, I’d be happy to give my $100 Pagani Design watch than my $10,000 Rolex watch. Although I only kept one of my luxury watches, my Tag Heuer F1 in quartz. Gotta have a quartz in the collection and it has sentimental value because it was my very first entry level “luxury” timepiece. I couldn’t be happier now that I got rid of my luxury timepieces plus I bought insurance for them just in case they get stolen or some other mishap. I sleep better at night now. 😂
Awesome I definitely understand and agree with pretty much all your points
Lets say 1 in 5 is bad.
1 person in 3000 will get 5 bad ones on the bounce.
About 1/3rd of all buyers will get 5 good ones.
Yeah but that's not what we had here we had four out of five bad right out the box
@@mr.eswatchreviews that's just bad luck.
One of my best friends Tag Heuer Carrera (that's a £5k watch) has been back for repair 7 times in 2 years. Does that make all Carrera's unreliable? No. It's just bad luck.
@@fontyyy ummm yeah I would say that is junk sorry not sorry if they could not get it fixed by the second time around there's obviously something very wrong and myself my personal opinion I think tag Heuer is junk and will never buy one and as for anybody who paid $5,000 for one🤦
Pagani Design is my favorite watch brand, although I'm mostly into their mechaquartz chronographs. Sorry you had a bad experience with them.
It is what it is but I honestly check out steeldive chronos in San Martin they are all much better watches
They are indeed very good watches.
Well you are totally entitled to your opinion but math says they are not 4 out of 5 watches with major quality control issues for those who are lucky enough to get one that's decent enough to actually work great for them however when purchasing you have about a 50-50 chance of getting something decent or shit
They are great watches and perfect value for the money. Love my pagani seamaster homage. Yes the straps are crap but you can just buy a replacement.
Finally someone that’s honest about the brand and says the facts as they are
I try my best
I have had 8 in total and one was a issue with that was it
if u want better quality u should check out san Martin
Please go to my homepage and check out all of the other reviews that I have done on all the other homages I have basically damn near reviewed every Submariner homage on the market all of the videos are on my channel
I love them because I buy them for cheap and many of them have little problems, which are solvable or you can live with them. And after I receive them I get a partial refund (50%). So I basically get the watches for 20-40€
yakın zamanda sipariş vereceğim. %50 geri ödemeyi nasıl alıyorsunuz ?
Sounds like you need a slightly longer stem on the Kermit subby, I had a problem with one of my watches and stem just a hair longer fixed the problem. Now having said that, the GMT I ordered from them came with no plastic on it missing the spring bar tool missing the polishing cloth and was covered with scratches and it was supposed to be new.
Just get nh35 seiko movement it should fit perfectly and and you good
Probably I did a nh34a in the Pepsi worked out ok
Go ahead and get the watch you wanna get dont listen to people telling you what what and what happened cause their experience wont be like yours. These watches come with a warranty that you can use once you have issues if any.
I mean it is what it is man if people want to buy them it's not like I'm going to be mad at them for it I'm just letting everybody know what my experience was and as far as the warranty they'll want you to pay for the shipping back if you're getting it through AliExpress and unfortunately the shipping cost as much as the watch did
You say 'good money' but these are ultra cheap watches with great quality components in them, they really don't cost 'good money' plus if you're buying from Amazon it's easy to send them back. They are banging these out at a million miles an hour, so unfortunately a hell of alot of faulty watches get through,. The bracelet issue is an easy fix that if you'd had the patience, you could have found a fix for on RUclips, lol. Just remove the loose push pins, unfold them and push them back in. I've had issues myself, but nearly always been able to fix them myself or found a fix on RUclips. Invicta watches have virtually identical issues, but really aren't up to the same level of build quality as Pagani.
@@LurkingCrassZero wow talking about going around your elbow to get your ass look I have handled and fondled more f****** washes than you can shake your goddamn stick at Pagani sucks in comparison to everybody else including Invicta they are way below on the quality level scale I shouldn't have to fix f****** anything that is brand f****** new and I know how to do all kinds of f****** watch repairs the point is I'm not doing it on f****** s*** I already spent good money on any money that I had to go and work my f****** ass off is good money I don't give a f*** if it was only $50 it doesn't make a s*** to me I don't want to feel like I wasted $50 on a piece of s*** that I have to fix and again I'm using math here not my feelings I bought 10 invicta pro divers one out of the 10 had an issue with the movement. other than that there was no quality control issues however I bought four Pagani designs and three out of the four were no good so Invicta has a 10% failure rate versus a 75% failure rate or quality control issue or however you would like to word it so bottom line i appreciate you watching but please take your head out your ass I'm glad you're satisfied with the Pagani pieces of s***but do yourself a favor and try a Kronos a sugess or San Martin all of them f****** kick the s*** out of Pagani and yes they are worth the extra money basically my point is get you some watches that are actually quality and you will totally understand or at least you should if you have common sense
@@mr.eswatchreviews I think I hit a nerve, lol. Calm down man, you'll give yourself a stroke 😛
I bought pagani BB panda for 26$ on sale as a gift to my second cousin he’s turning 20, please explain why I shouldn’t do it and what should I get instead for same budget?
For $26 I don't really have any suggestions I can make a lot of great suggestions for around $200 to $300 but basically you will find here in the comments you have the Pagani lovers and the haters like me it's genuinely about 50/50 on whether or not the watch will be any good or last any kind of time
Pagani is very good for the price.
I have to disagree you would be much better off to go with steeldive
I've got two quartz ones which are ok and two mechanical ones, both with faulty crowns.
I am starting to see a trend here
F’ em in the bootyhole 😂😂😂. Is it that bad cuz I heard the opposite that the San Martin QC was no better and u pay more for a San Martin. I don’t have either but trying to figure out which one to buy. Thanks for the reviews.
I have a lot of San Martin Sugess cronos pagani invicta steeldive loreo and to be perfectly honest I would recommend any of those other brands over pagani by a lot as far as the AliExpress brands go this is how I would rank them san martin and sugess tied for number 1 cronos number 2nd steeldive 3rd bliger 4th loreo 5th and if I had to put Pagani on the list they would be dead last I did a best Submariner homage video last year I'm going to be doing an updated one here in the next week or so but I have individual videos of all these watches and I have a comparison video between the top three brands on my channel so please subscribe and check them out and as I am not paid by anybody for any of my opinions anything I say anywhere is 100% honest and my own opinions
San Martin and Surgess are both pretty good.
Absolutely
“It runs when it wants to” I know the feeling
You must have bad luck I have 4 soon to be 5 pagani’s and all are just about flawless only problem was my sub homage which ran a tad fast but regulated it and works perfectly fine. You got to get the nh34 movement gmt ones the pd movements are bad
i haven't own a pagani yet but i will someday, i recommend model PD1707 and PD1761 a homage model of an audemars and a tissot PRX
I buy oyster flex bracelets and presidential for all my watches now.
I prefer oyster but I really become a jubilee guy nowadays because they look so fancy and hide scratches really well unlike the oyster
I have a watch by them and so far I haven’t had any problems with it so far
You always have to be a bit lucky when buy made in China. So far I've been pretty lucky but with the money these cost, it's hardly taking a risk.
this leans me more towards seestern, thanks for the upload. i had heard they have QC issues with finishing, not so much the movements, too.
Glad I could help!
12 Pagani watches in my collection no problems at all
I'm happy for you congratulations maybe you should try your luck at the casino then lol
Just got a Batman GMT and it's wildly inaccurate. It picks up 5 minutes every hour LOL. I've bought a million watches over the years and I don't think I ever got one that didn't keep good time. I may keep it though, it makes me laugh it's so bad. :) Love the looks of it.
Yeah it's unfortunate they really do not make quality watches but you got some people on here that are on pagani's nuts 🥜 I think I said everything I need to say in the video but I'll say it again they're absolute s*** and I'll never buy another
Got my Pepsi with the nh34 movement for £50 in the most recent sale, couldn’t be happier to be honest, sorry you’ve had a bad experience with PD…….
Glad you got a good one good luck with it. It is what it is to be honest I have found a few other brands in the price range that I like better I just wanted to share my experience on a different note I ordered a nh34a dial and hands for that Pepsi going to reuse the case
I own 3 a regular 200m diver and a Batman and a Pepsi but I’ve bought mine right from Pagani store I think the amazon ones may be returns ??
I don’t know if buying direct helps but I have owned mine for several yrs and never had an issue maybe I just got lucky or not but yeah I don’t have any idea.
I do wish the bezel turned a bit harder as it does turn fairly easily but my regular diver does everything my steinhart does and I am not comparing Pagani to steinhart in anyway shape or form but buying from Pagani direct are better
I have 3 or 4 pagan and they work great.
have a few without problems . . steeldive is a better option
Agreed 💯
No issues with mine have it 4 years now, it's the blue dial sea dweller homage
Congratulations they must have had better qc back then those at the time of the video all under a year old
@@mr.eswatchreviews it's gone true the mill my one with labour intensive work from hammering with claw hammers to sledge hammers power tools of all sorts from dust to grit and grime never had to do anything with it ok the paint on the basil figures came off of some that's from spraying calon on the back or my wrists but that took 2½ years but that's on only some of the figures . Slows down by 5min every month but it could do with a service at this stage even at that I'd class that as alright . I took it off 2 weeks ago to put on my quarts watch that I haven't worn in 10 months so my dweller will be going back on my wrist Saturday that's for sure When I get back home .
Watch wasn’t having no issues… Besides the eloquent use of the English language I find your take on the Pagani watches wrong. I own a great number of their Time pieces and I find value for money/quality has been very satisfying.
Well good for you I'm happy for you that you are satisfied with such turds but if you're happy with these pieces of s*** then you should really check out the other stuff on AliExpress like sugess Kronos and San Martin as they are f****** 10 times to watch that this is 4 out of 5 bad is what we have here
Gonna watch later.
I would use the watch for parts if needed
@@raymondnoya5653 yeah unfortunately that's about all they're good for I have literally given all of mine away
That's unfortunate. I bought a few ali express watches on the 11 11 sale. Only one was an automatic. It's a Berny and it's been really good so far. I'm surprised at the QC issues with those Pagani stick with the San Martin I don't see many bad reviews on those
Hello, what was the discount on 11/11? Thinking about waiting for it to come. Looking at the PD-1758 for 135$
The pagani watches on ali express are fakes
I don't think anybody is making counterfeit pagani's they're already cheap pieces of s*** so I can't see anybody counterfeiting that
Had to watch your review at 1.75 speed👍👌
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I've 3 of them and I cannot fault them
Oh good for you I'm sincerely happy for you
Mister,
You need to buy a real Rolex to feel happy...
That is not true I own a real Rolex and we'll be putting out the comparison video between my Rolex datejust in my San Martin datejust here in the next week or so but being perfectly straightforward and honest a Rolex is not required to be happy in the watch world i honestly enjoy my Ginault watches more than any that I own
OK, so their QC is mediocre.
But is Seiko really much better ?
If you get a faulty watch, send it back !
You paid $50 ea for Rolex clones....lol
Depending where you bought it from sending it back out getting your money back can be a issue if ordered though AliExpress
@@mr.eswatchreviews Yeah, totally agree ! But, the official Pagani Design store is really good apparently 👍
@edwardfletcher7790 honestly to me even if that's true I'm not going to spend my money with them because no matter who you speak to there are quality control issues some minor some more major and there are a bunch of other brands right around or slightly above pagani's price point that offer way better watches
@@mr.eswatchreviews One brand getting a LOT of attention ATM is Tandorio, pricing under $100, some really cool retro designs, as for quality, who knows ? 😁👍
The only other common Chinese brand people say beats Pagani is Cadisen, but I don't like their designs.