Yachting Monthly's Discovery 57 test
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2013
- In a two-part test we saw how the Discovery 57 tamed a gale F8 gusting 10, before going out again in more friendly conditions to get some pictures. For £1.3m you get a tastefully luxurious, beautifully built, easy to sail solo, rock-solid reliable and round-the-world ready passage-maker.
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I miss this guy's reviews. They were the best.
Yachitng Monthly should bring back these videos theyre excellent.
I'm going to buy one of these boats in a few years, these reviews and Chris Beseson are one of the 3-4 reasons why.
We randomly found this design and loved it, only to find out that Ron Holland designed it as well as our Freedom 39 PHS. Can't wait to upgrade to the 55. Also echo the sentiments, Chris Beeson is the man and this is the best review format of any I've ever seen.
Bring this guy back , great review
You do. A great job showing the yachts. Really enjoyed the way u show the yacht.
daniel kinney m
totally hooked on the Discovery 57! now I just need to wait for my lottery check to come in :p
Count me in…. been waiting fo the lotto ticket for a while
i love discovery yachts. very smart layout inside and out!
As always, a very well-done video. What an incredible yacht, amazing performance, and thoughtful design. Want!
Love this guy's reviews
She's a beautiful boat and I like a lot of things about her (that nav station!!!!, the bilge pumps in the water proof compartments, the spinnaker pole handling, and of course her sailing performance) but after spending a lot of time on Amel's, there are some things that bug the crap out of me with her too:
1) Those helm stations are far too exposed. After cruising thousands of miles offshore, the novelty of being out in the elements in force 8 winds has worn off. It makes 3-4 hour watches brutal (although it pretty much guarantees you won't fall asleep as you'll be so miserable).
2) All those windows in the hull and the sides of the coach roof are wonderful on grey blustery days around the UK and northern coasts of France, but in the Med, the Caribbean or South Pacific, it will turn that boat into a greenhouse and all that beautiful woodwork will be bleached to nothing in no time. I love how airy and open it looks but practically, I suspect that within days of hitting the warmer climates, the owners will be installing curtains blocking everything anyway. I also think those hull windows are going to be a source of leaks and condensation.
3) The cabin has no natural flow... you have to walk through a tight galley to get in/out of the aft cabin, the shower was cruel and unusual punishment, the engine room access from inside the boat (you'd think it would be a feature but who wants to smell diesel and bilge smells in the boat on a stormy passage?). I like the way Amel does it with a totally separate (and water tight) compartment for all the mechanical/electric systems much better. It also seemed like a smaller room but that could just be the camera angle.
4) For £1.3m, you should at least get solid lifelines and stanchions rather than those crappy nylon covered cables that rot out in 5 years. Although Chris was impressed with the rigidity of the stanchions, I noticed it wobbled a fair bit as he yanked on them and putting 1" of one end of a 3' pole into the toe rail is giving one hell of a lever to rip your toe rail apart (a 1 lb force at the top of the stanchion will have a 333 lb sideways force at the toe rail). I really wasn't impressed by that.
5) Did you see that Boom Vang at ruclips.net/video/mXgC9c3yUes/видео.html? It doesn't look suitable for anything other than holding the boom up when replacing the topping lift in the marina and even then, it is very short for such a long boom.
6) The Genoa winches (at 4:52) look to be quite hard to access if you are doing them manually... yes, I know the boat is fully automatic but there are times such as on the 2am watch when you don't want to wake up the dead by cranking on the big winches and would do it manually.. they are outside so even if you had the cockpit fully enclosed, you'd have to go out or lift up the enclosure to get at them.
7) I won't get into the whole discussion the virtues of a deck stepped vs keel stepped mast but I do think that bringing a cold mast into a warm cabin is an invitation for condensation, if not leaks around the imperfect seals, so would have liked to see how they drain it (or shown some insulation on the access doors).
Still, she's a beautiful boat and there are lots of things to really admire about her. She seems very well put together and I really liked Chris's review. We miss you Chris... you do the best boat reviews! (And for those who have trouble understanding him, I'd suggest you get off your couch and travel some!)
Horses for Courses.
We delivered a 55 earlier this year. She was a great boat and this new 57 looks even better . Look forward to sailing one. TVYachts
These reviews are great. I also do not see a directed sales pitch, as I notice on other review videos. I see a more truthful concern w/ the evaluation of the vessel. I'd like to see more posts. The most recent review I see on your channel is from 2 years ago. Where are you gentleman?Please, keep it coming.
Beautiful! And what a shame that everyone that would like to have one, can't ! Myself included.
I'd absolutely live aboard this.
This guy knows what he's talking about.
Excellent demo, well done.
I like this vessel but for £1.3m it should at least feel homey, and not so cold. I was also hoping the splashing water sounds wouldn't be as noticeable in the aft cabin. Chris Beeson did a great job presenting this ship.
Ed Rosenberger - Agree that the splashing noises was really odd. Was that one of the bilges?!
Great review! Keep up the good work. Very Sharp setup, Cheers
Amazing vessel.
I now understand why the Discovery is expensive. Beautifully set up.
Beautiful boat, very lucky owner, and who cares if she stays in the marina 98% of the time, you can just sit on her and admire the craftsmanship of the build quality
Brilliant video. Nice presenting.
***** Rum ...
Absolutely. He knew everything inside out, nothing surprised him, and he had light but confident opinions throughout. That will have taken a lot of learning and remembering - my hat's off to him
I love nav stations! cool stuff indeed. I love the way he says ping pong balls! lol
Love it
I would like Chris Beeson back!
Doesn't work for Yachting Monthly anymore!
@@kimfucku8074
Now I know. Thanks.
£1.3m for a Discovery 57 damn that's EXPENSIVE
For 1.3 M Pounds, I would spend 150.000 and build a 60 foot diesel duck. The rest of the loot would pay for diesel for the next 20 years.
Amazing :)
We are delivering one at the moment from Jersey to Gibraltar. Very nice yachts!
+Halcyon Yachts - International Yacht Delivery hey, bring one please.
+gkarjala The Charnleys and Beeson won't return my calls so , you just gotta trust me. It's been approved.
I would love to see more of these & some review comments about the boat as well! The Discovery 67/68 interests me, any input is appreciated!!
I wish the people who own that yacht and are going to sail the world would post video's like Delos does. Perhaps not to raise money as most people that own yachts at least at the time of purchase are rich so they don't need donations . Still video's of this wonderful boat going on great travels would be nice
Don't like the exposed helm stations. Would really be miserable in any rough weather. But love the presentations which he does with his little suggestions on what to make it better.
Dean Merculief Agree about the exposure. That would get old really fast.
Needed a bit more about electronics, navigation, radar, etc.
Very clever...
I would sail with my cats on this boat and very comfortable for them.
why did you guys stop making videos?
The screen housing on the nav station will kill someone in rolling conditions at sea. It’s a weapon.
I hope all the Lords and Ladies will be happy with this one.
Great boat.. helm is awfully exposed. He said an arch with panels would allow the bimini to extend.. but still..
That's a lot of stuff that can break-as it always does.
I watch this video whenever I need to be lulled into a deep, death-like sleep. Thank you.
The reviews are to the point and at speed .Most other reviews are to dragged out,Time to start reviewing more boats.This presenter should do videos teaching sailing.
What happened to the audio right at the moment of the test sail? Kind of a shame, since that's the part that I was waiting for.
Very nice boat but way too expensive for a 57 footer. I would go for the AMEL 55 with the same equipment and save 300K at least.
This boat is more expensively fitted and also has a good knot advantage on the AMEL 55 average.
AEKARA27 you watch too much Delos!!
Only draw back.... the cockpit is in the weather... he says you can have it all covered but as is... it is not... If you have ever crossed the Atlantic and bounced around in the Pacific you know you want a covered, out of the wind, dry, and air conditioned (at least heat) while underway in open seas.
I guess if you can afford it, you pay someone else to take it across the pond!
It is mainly on auto-pilot. I would also prefer a single wheel with better protection though but the boats keep getting wider forcing the double setup more or less.
hello nice video's wich do you take?Moody DS 54 ore DS 62 ore Lagoon 620 ore Discovery 57 we are with 2
Have a look at Elley Grey a grp St. Malo pilot cutter replica from 1896 , delivered 2012 stunning and for sale .
It seems all these yacht owners are very innovative at micromanagement.
I would love to be used on one
This is my kinda boat
So, this boat says 4 things to me: 1) beautiful, 2) fast, 3) stable, 4) easy.
Most of the high end cruising sailboat are semi custom boats , they are over built a more than a production boat .
Wow. One winch probably cost us much as my boat
I would give a left testicle to go back in time and buy a sailboat when my kids were still young.
In the owner’s cabin, why was there so much sounds of water sloshing and slipping around? Very noisy...
Very comprehensive review - pity about sound quality when giving the sailing performance figures. Great job though - thanks - can I have the 67 instead ?? Greedy?maybe !!
Normally great presentations but this time we were not shown either the forward or aft berth. Also, it is an expensive boat that leaves the helmsman high up and exposed.
water splashing sound at the master cabin and aft of the boat ... not quiet at the dock as it seems.
Fussinated its not as loud in real life as it is on video. Same with engine noise, it sounds louder on video than it actually is.
Did I miss it? I did not hear the price on that boat. Of, coarse if you have to ask, you can't afford it. Awesome boat in every way. Too bad I don't play the lottery.
um. wow
shame the master cabin's shower cubicle should be so poky - the guy could barely turn around.
This is really nitpicking here but I don't like the chart table for two reasons. First the electric motor to lift the display is unnecessary and anther part that will fail at some point. (It is a boat and the first immutable fact is that boats break) Second, the sat phone and plotter are under the table, so how long before someone spills a drink and buggers them both. I also don't like to duel helm for the same reason. Mores stuff to maintain and more stuff to break.
How would that compare to a Gracia Yacht Exploration 52?
Garcia is standard alu and have a lifting centre board making the draft like 3 feet. Also it is at least 40% cheaper. So no comparison really.
Fuck all these interrupting commercials!
RUclips is not what it was!!!!
First time I've seen an owner of a multi million dollar yacht use a wind generator
Did you read the video's caption? "For £1.3m you get a tastefully luxurious, beautifully built, easy to sail solo"
I'm sorry but the video is made to you or to the boat - because I saw very little of the boat
It's both. It is >his< review of the boat.
Amel 64
i died laughing at 9:02... too much
Sad that the person who can afford this boat will probably have little time to use it for what it was designed for. Meanwhile what live-aboard cruiser wouldn't love to call this their permanent home?
missing a screw at 2:15?
Majoofi
Nope, flush mount screw.
Great boat. Its a shame majority of these gems sit idle at ports 98% of the year...
Very nice finish on this Discovery, I only see 2 problems with the boat 1st the helmsman is left out in the cold during a rain storm or just a cold night? 2nd problem is it's a mono hull, why spend most of your sailing heeled over, unless you have one leg shorter than the other buy a Catamaran for more space per foot and a level ride. Comes in handy when paying for moorage fees. A 44 or 45 ft. Catamaran will give you as much space as a 60 or 65 ft. Mono Hull?
Cats are great. They are fast, lots of space and, like you point out, they sail flat but they do have drawbacks for serious cruising. In rough seas they have a jerky motion and if they get capsized they will never right themselves. That's why most serious cruisers go for a mono hull. Kinda depends on what you wan't to do & where you want to go with a boat.
Personally, I would give a cat a serious look for all the reasons you mention & I have no real desire to cruise to distant & remote ares.
Cats certainly have their benefits but as another reply pointed out they have some drawbacks too. That said, I think for most people its the romance. Thats an important thing when youre talking about sailors because they clearly want to do things, in part, the old fashioned way, with nothing but mother nature propelling you around the world. And the old fashioned way is a monohull.
+Andres Gonzalez
Roger Spinks It's my understanding that most marinas will charge more per foot of boat length for a catamaran than a monohull.
In our local marina, a 45 foot cat will basically cost you double what a 45 foot mono would do, since a cat that size will take up a pair of pens that two 45 foot monos could occupy. I would have thought marina fees on a 60-odd foot mono and a 40-odd foot cat would be pretty similar.
Cats are also more expensive to buy, because of all the extra complexity in building them. The price seems to be (usually) roughly in line with the usable space too (e.g a new 45ft cat will cost around $600,000 - $1,000,000 in this country - and that kind of money here can also buy you an equally posh 60-something foot mono).
I think in the end it comes down to personal preference, and where you sail.
+Roger Spinks Pointing? Self-righting? Beam? Sailors are practicle people, if cats were all that monohulls would be absolete. depends on what you want and where you going I'd guess.
Brasil ?
So that’s pretty much either for old or for lazy people, right?
Camera man show this man all time. Why don't show yacht ?
Worth visiting www.discoveryyachtowner.com for a fuller picture.
This boat dont cost even $1 million. Much less. Anyway are there sailing boats with less ropes? ta
Sounds a bit of a knock for this price... i'd not pay more than £1mill IMHO. blesses Arek
300$an hour no limits in Hb
how much?
The price is clearly stated in the description directly above your comment.
Wealthy - this boat is $2mill new - 1.3 million pounds - not cheap !! Get that lotto ticket !!!
Some of the features of that boat seem really gimmicky to me. Good video though
why is this boat so expensive? you can buy a beneteau sense 55 for waaay less... and its only a tad bit smaller...
I'd say because everything in this boat looks top notch and everything in a beneteau is mid budget at best.
wolfb4u
True, the most luxurious yachts in this range are Oyster and Discovery. I like both Jeanneau and Beneteau, but comparing them to Oyster/Discovery is like comparing a renault to a Bentley.
Radu Roventa Wish this gentleman would do a review of the Oyster 57. Would like his thorough and honest review. YM's review of the Oyster does not seem very good as it is for the Discovery 57. Love this boat! What great quality!
There are good reasons why a Ferrari 458 Italia is quite a good deal more expensive than a Honda Odyssey. And the Odyssey is even much bigger =D
I like Jeanneau and Beneteau, good boat for the money, but having been on a decent number of them I can point out the numerous problems they have and they just dont even compare in quality to something like a Discovery.
Andres Gonzalez And dont get me confused, Benes and Jennys are great boats but so is a Honda. That doesn't mean I wouldn't rather have a Ferrari if I could and I fully respect why the Ferrari costs so much more.
Nice boat - just a tad cold and sterile. (in my opinion)
not worth twice th price of a new jeanneau 57 i need a 57 caus im 6ft 2-- headrn
This boat seems like a very good performer. Personally, I don't like her lines. I feel she's rather ugly. My big objection, though, is below decks. Her layout seems very choppy and cramped for a 57 ft boat. I also feel that there are too many different materials used below. There's no cohesiveness to the look. It seems a jumble of various parts rather than a whole. Not for me. If anyone wants to see a beautiful, classic-looking boat in this length that also performs very well and has a gorgeous traditional interior, check the Cabo Rico 56 out. She's just about my favorite under 60-65 ft.
As much as you can say I'm not impressed by the rigging,and fittings. This a very expensive big boat and what it provides is almost standard : there is nothing new or outstanding. For instance, you can make a much advertisement you want about the stanchions, it is properly built but you do not show how it is a real safety feature, or that provision has been made so that a minor crash from another boat doesn't cause structural damage…
The camera may be useful sometimes but I would bet that most of the time the glare of the sun would make the screen useless …
For the rest … well, it's a boat. To be honest with that kind of money I know a few architects and yards that could make me a boat as I see fit.
Whatever in God's name happen to this gentleman?
Worth only 1/3 the asking price IMHO. You could get a much nicer boat for half as much.
Give some examples I'm in the market.
Really? 1/3 the price????
Anybody want a kidney for 1.3 million dollars
I wish the presenter would enunciate. Hard to understand.
Holy crap, this filming is so f'ing annoying. Is the cameraman or woman in love with you or something? I want to see the boat, but he/she is so f'ing fixated on your face, all I get to see is you jabbering away, and every now and then a quick sweep of something you mentioned.
I get what you look like now, thank you, very informative. In future, please turn the camera on whatever you are talking about, because that is why I am watching this video.
This guy does a great presentation. Unfortunately his pronunciation is terrible. Hard to follow for a non English mother-tongue (and a boater!). Captions can't follow him neither, so come up misleading.
Junk two Cockpits???? dumb wasted space
What a terrible camera man!
All these for one owner, selfish, should donate to the poor and social security