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Allures 45. The ideal bluewater cruiser?
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- Опубликовано: 10 окт 2012
- Yachting Monthly's Chris Beeson travels to Cherbourg, home of Allures, to test the aluminium Allures 45. Read the full review in the November 2012 issue of Yachting Monthly
Chris Beeson is absolutely superlative at these reviews.
I like his reviews because he always points out great points of the boat, but also points out it could use this or that. Unlike other reviews which just point out how fantastic everything is and it has no flaws at all. He knows his sailboats
yes, he's on point with all features on all boats, a very knowledgeable sailor!
Dude knows his shit and doesn't waste time.
I really like Chris Beason evaluations. If you listen carefully you get an honest sailors’ perspective evaluation of the yacht. Yachting World’s evaluator seems to be just a salesman for the manufacturer. Consequently I disregard anything the other guy says as sales BS and listen carefully to Chris’s evaluations.
I do not make this comment casually as I have listed to scores of evaluations over the past few years and do not wish to name or impune the other guy but instead to complement Chris’s work.
Agreed. I've watched a couple of his reviews recently and he really puts most of the other guys to shame. His low key delivery is laden with relevant info; seemingly unrehearsed (though probably not) just screams "life-long yachtie giving you the straight scoop". The yacht broker reviews are the worst - most of them seem like converted real-estate agents (FRETOYB - Failed Real Estate, Trying Out Yacht Broking)...
@@thePronto Hahaha. That's so true about the Yacht Broker Reviewers. Converted real-estate agents is a perfect description lmao.
meh, don't care. 99% of people watching these (including me) could never buy any of these, so what does it matter? "This $1.5 mill boat is not good" ehm, ok. Guess I won't buy it then.. Lol
@@obidamnkenobi Might not buy this boat, but he points out many interesting features that can be on or added to other boats
Get some balls and name names. What, are we pinky drinking tea and crumpets? Are you all out of Grey Poupon? Talk like a man, instead of a whimpering sophisticate.
The Russel Crowe of boat reviews.
Excellent presentation Chris! I've just ordered one with 2 heads and 3 cabins...
I used to sail back in the 80's & boat design has come so far since then. All the little details have been thought out & major things like swim steps, running all the lines back to the cockpit and roller furling jibs are standard now. We got a roller furling system around 1982 or 83 & it wasn't cutting edge but it got attention around the marina. People wanted to see it & ask how we liked it.
No doubt sailing is still work but new designs have added many conveniences & gotten rid of many of the daily hassles. I really like many new boats out nowadays. Hopefully I will be able to eventually get out on the water again.
shananagans5
When you last sailed people were starting to put solar panels on their boats.
These days they attach a boat to their solar panels.
Chris you do a wonderful job showing boats
How I wish if I could own one allures 45.9 my dream boat !!
Loved your explication of the engine, the electrics, etc.
awesome video. i live vicariously through the host
Making items with a smooth coating, or having them plated, makes the value increase, as well as last longer and resist corrosion of salt and weather elements, as well as makes things like corrosion, or damages easier to discover, when they take place, versus finding out while you may attempt to use it.
Fixed keel, analog controls on all sail management and rudder option, fresh water maker system, fuel cleaning system and just 1 steering wheel and this would be my dream world cruiser, i am in love :)
It's selling point is a go anywhere aluminum blue water cruiser. the lifting keel is perfect for that job.
Oh man I love these reviews I always get new ideas for my sailboat, like this one had the winch handles clipped under the locker cover, loved it! Thanks Chris! Btw u can go round the world in a lot less boat than that, it don't matter the type of mast step or keel only the sailor.
Wow. Beautiful, obviously designed by a sailor to be sailed in comfort. It looked like it had great access to all the mechanical and electronics. How much was it in US?
Not that I could ever afford it. And you sir are the best of all sail boat reviewers. Thank you.
I agree with Yani. The boat looks fantastic, and is really roomy, and while I'm definitely no expert, I too have some doubts about how good the boat would be in really rough conditions... The wide beam, shoal draft, flat bottom, and lack of significant lateral area could make things pretty unpleasant if you get into really rough weather, particularly when running downwind...
The near flush anchor compartment and anchor line and chain, make it a clearer weather deck while moving around attending to running rigging, and mast head lines. while providing dual guiding to below the waterline.
A below deck compartment with a window, is a great idea, rare to see on some sailing yachts of which dark compartments may create a vessel health hazard of sea molds, which can grow on ropes, lines and other material and dark, unlit interior compartment surfaces. Ending the sea mold, and the winner is... a glass doored storage compartment! Also a great precautionary measure to prevent health ailments on longer journeys.
love this boat..... this and the Nordship DS. Sirius are nice too...
A nice looking yacht!
There should be a mandatory course on showing a boat this guy really needs one ☝️.
Lovely boat, one of the best in this size range I've seen. Think it's the first time I've seen a washing machine on a yacht too lol
watch more videos. They're quit common.
Another great review...
How much can I buy this boat for? Exactly the same plan and customization? Its beautiful. woah
Chris Beeson do some more reviews!!!!!
Have a look at Elley Grey a grp St. Malo pilot cutter rplica from 1896 , delivered 2012 built to sail the world by a couple stunning .
how much?
Would love to see more comparison versus the Garcia 45... her sister ship? How's the engine access... eg. change the starter, belts, impeller ok
I agree. However, maintenance access aside, the differences between the two are quite apparent: this one is lighter and probably a bit faster, half the price and much better suited for the palm tree run. The garcia has better, well everything, but is much heavier and most of it just unnecessary unless one is headed towards the poles of this planet. Now I'd pick this one and have the sail controls from the garcia (the new. allures 45.9 pretty much does that) and if I was headed for the poles.. Well, I'd probably go for a boreal.
Good boat but I wouldnt want a keel-less boat in blue water. The danger of knocking down is that much more in a squall. Sure, the owners and designers knew there was a price to pay for being able to beach the boat or make it into shallow waters but personally Its not a price I would be willing to pay for a blue water cruiser. Other than that, fantastic ship.
Depends on how one sees it. The stability curves are pretty much on par with keel boats, she just needs more ballast. However, the ability to raise the keel in tough conditions is definitely a huge plus to avoid knockdowns and broaches. When the keel is lifted, larger waves coming to the beam are far less likely to knock the boat down - instead she will just slide along the wave. Also, when going downwind the keel can be lifted, these boats will track just fine with just the little stub keel but it will pretty much removing the risk of broaching. And of course there is no chance of loosing the ballast as it is built in the hull. Only legitimate concern I can see with this design is the inverted stability being quite high. But since she is somewhat less likely to suffer a knock down... I dunno. But there is a reason why some of the most serious exploration boats (garcia, same hulls as this, boreal) are built with alu hulls and lifting keels.
TeeFunkable for the tropical water where you can sail the boat up to the beach without getting of the keel hits down!!
Maybe you should explain this theory to Skip Novak lol
Or perhaps to Jimmy Cornell who recently did the Northwest passage on a similar type aluminium CB boat? He is a sailor who goes to places much like Novak, could have any boat and chooses a centerboarder. And his previous trips on a even much lighter alu centerboarder. There is a reason why this the most common setup in the serious french expedition boats designed for heavy duty, high latitude sailing. And it's been thoroughly tested from NW passage to Cape Horn. Does standard keel types have benefits over cb? Sure. Bringing the ballast down keeps the boat lighter as less ballast is required and the boats can carry a taller rig and less inverted stability. Particularly upwind is usually better on fixed keel. Does cb have benefits over fixed keel? Sure. No risk of losing the keel, broaching free downwind sailing, wave sliding... Two different things, both with their own limitations and benefits.
I agree with Ariana... just one more thing to leak into the boat. Most C/B boats have wet bilges... You aren't going to take your million dollar boat onto a beach when the conditions are rough so why not take your $4000 dingy anyway? (Oh, and I own and sail on a swing keel cruiser so I'm not talking out of my hat).
I liked the review. Got a question: how loud is the engine, especially below deck?
Just concerned, is there enough storage lockers in there? ;)
Twin helms are for boat shows.
The toilet is on one side facing across. If you are on stbd tack, it is virtually unusable. For a true bluewater boat, it should face fore/aft. I am surprised they misssed that. But it was probably the choice of a toilet or the shower.
Engine access?
Never knew so many listener/ viewer for this video had hearing problems ................... :)
How much is one of these Allures ?
500kUSD
Where can I get a complete rundown on this boat from someone who knows about this boat
I have been looking for a replacement for my Beneteau 411 for 2 years ....... still not found it ! 411 takes some beating
Yes I can see that there is a locker there and a bed there. But how about boat? How is it constructed. Rudder, keel and all that?
I would have loved to see a review of the allures 39.9
" ir rounded up once or twice " hmmm lets see a few do a full circle and some southern ocean at 5-600000....
Very decent yacht. thoughts are whether the keel is lead, iron, and type as others mentioned.
Second is that the performance in my humble opinion is below average. For comparison, our CS30 cruiser/ racer with 5 large Newfoundlanders on it was running a consistent > 7.5 knots on a beam reach in 15-20 knot wind. That's similar to this yacht. Further, I tend to disagree with the reviewer about it being "fully loaded". Naval architects and engineers have studied this issue endlessly and essentially result is: in a monohull, increasing displacement by large amounts like over 10% reduces speed by 1-2%, whereas muliihulls are effected in a more 1:1 fashion.
Anyway, I would expect more performance from a boat of this size, especially being aluminum + more stiff, and with the newer form stability form factor ... beamier aft section
Yup. Plenty of cruiser/ racers in the 30+ feet range will be far faster than this. This is hardly a surprise. Even the 33 finngulf I spend time on regularly makes better speed and that design is close to 20 years old now. However, there are some variability within this. First of all, they were unfamiliar with the boat. The smaller version of this, the 39.9 clocked over 9 knots in a test, albeit it was far less loaded. Whether that difference came from the trim, loading or design is of course an educated guess at best. And since I'm not that familiar with the studies I'm not arguing against them, but I would most definitely like to read them if you can point me to them.Were the tests based on quantitative modelling or real life performance with less than perfect trim? I would still argue that trade of performance is worth if for this design though. Having two large water tanks, plenty of storage, smooth motion and most of all a relaxed sail down the trades with the keel up easily beats one more knot in my books. Not to mention a nice anchorage in five feet of water after crossing the ocean... But it would most certainly be interesting to see the new 45.9, that replaces this boat during this year, keel types compared. It will have ballasted swing keel as an option for the centerboard. Same AVS, 2200 or so kilograms less ballast due to it's location. It will be a direct comparison of the same hull with the difference being in weight.
Not bad. Way too much heeling and no counter space in the galley. What year did it come out?
We’re always get a smart Alec that says if you have to ask the price you can afford it let me ask a smart Alec have you ever bought a boat without knowing the price what I need to know is the price to determine whether I wanna make an offer or not
Love the Allures. But it would be better if the galley is L shape, which gives more space for lounge area. Look at how Beneteau and Jenneau design their lounge.
no
this guy should narrate childrens books on tape
Very interesting review. Does she have the dingy davits on a separate hinging bar? Can you put a dingy on Her Al Arch davits and still fit an Auto Steering Wind Vane System on her?
@@TFT-bp8zk why?
@@giovannialtamore because you have another smaller boat in its place
beauty !!
Forward cabin on a blue water boat?
Does anyone know the make and model of the containers shown at around 3:30? It's surprisingly hard to search for such things it seems.
Try pelican cses or search on ebay for ATA cases. I have one that was a former Mil. Case for my small portable welder.
With your vast experience and knowledge,what vessel would you recommend ? Oh..36 foot to 42 foot..
What is the headroom down below?
Ok it is official I am addicted
what music is this in the video?
I think I'll stick with my Contessa 26 : )
And, closer to home!
@@johnpublic976 Actually there are LOTS of Contessa 26's that have circumnavigated. It is a very sturdy little boat. See Tania Abei's book "Maiden Voyage" as she was once the youngest girl ever to solo circumnavigate (although she didn't get the record because she had her boyfriend on a day cruise between two islands). She knew NOTHING about sailing when taking off and that little boat got her around the world through some impressive storms.
I'm a loozzzerrr
All imaginable gear you have at home. This boat is in fact, a swimming home, requiring a lot of maintenance once the guarantee is over. Two wheels are ridiculous, but fit into the "designer fashion" of our times, with those large, unnecessary sterns.
the two makes it easier to see and the wide haul gives it more stability
how many gallons can the water tank hold?
Im the best you have! I want to be in the winnerteam!
So, what do you do during imminent weather on a long journey. It would seem you're exposed with the wheel at the back of the boat. I prefer a center cockpit
Sorry for answering such an old comment, but you don't seem to know much about sailing the long trips.
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I wonder how she handles in "very very bad blue weather"... Would she still be as comfi and proven trustworthy as a long keel or semi longkeel? Witch one would you prefer to be sailing in, in worst case scenarios? Grtz
Di you think it could wait? Yes yes da, mais oui madame
4 way
Are these Aluminum Hulls!
Yes
otherwise, excellent boat and reviewer
Trouble with this Allures 45 is she has shallow side boards and she is slow, when doing 7 or 8 knots canted right over with the side board buried and one rudder out of the water, good thing she has two.
And she's only a mil and a half msrp. Negotiable of course...
Very nice swimming cupboard :-)
No bow thruster. No water maker?
What was the name of the stove?
GN Espace - we've got one. Very expensive but very good. You can cook everything in them.
Thanks
I wanted to know the same since you can not understand his mumbling of the name.
I'm curious about these yachts. Does having the centerboard instead of a weighted keel make it heel farther?
Keel type is hardly the main deciding factor, although they did mention in the review that they opted for a second reef in just 20 kts of wind on this boat. That said, keel type doesn't decide heeling - location and amount of ballast and the shape of the hull does. But of course, since the centerboard is unballasted, more weigh is required in the bilge to achieve the same amount of correcting moment compared to a normal keel, where the center of mass can be brought further down. That's why this boat would be lighter, if it had a standard keel. All about that leverage. A lifting keel with a bulb would achieve the best of both worlds, but they are far more complex, requiring hydraulics to raise and certainly can't be fitted with a sacrificial bolt that allow the keel to swing up in case of groundings like these centerboarders can. Nor can they raise the keel and keep their stability - a major safety disadvantage in very rough weathers compared to a centerboard. Then again, should all go to hell, they would have less inverted stability if capsized, unless the hydraulics fail...
Whos the cluck running the camera? Presenter is pointing at features and the camera remain on the presenter.
i wish there was an english version of this video.
I had no idea that so many people could not understand Chris Beeson. I am an American and I understand him perfectly. His accent is kind of sexy.
how much
Cool sailboat but very expensive for me. Sorry.
OMG.... you fell in love...
One of my pet peeves is the snobby bees that say something like if you have to ask the price you can afford it but let me tell you something if you don’t ask the price you’re stupid
what freaks me about the sail boats is the fact how far they go to one side
+theboarman not sail boats, what you really mean are mono hulls.
well said Roger Spinks
+theboarman Only to about 30deg or so, anymore and you start reducing sail area as the boat will be side slipping reducing efficiency. Also the side lean keeps the boat stable and reduces the likelihood of sea sickness.
theboarman you need to look into the catamaran
She maybe a step up from a flimsy Med boat but she doesn't strike me as being that tough. In the Southern Ocean or Tasman sea and waves breaking over the boat, .....I'd sooner be on something else.....
On, Like what?
JOHN PUBLIC a submarine...
.....Terrible sound, great review
I think the anchor aboard the vessel is unattractive. Maybe something with a brighter surface is in order. Usually if you have a piece of equipment that looks and works good, it makes it more valuable to the operator, as well as the way it is taken care of. I am sure the type metal the anchor is made of is able to be chrome plates, or shined, like other brightwork, that makes it attractive.
The dumbest head sink idea period but for a passage making boat it’s dangerous.
Stow-age????
+Pfsif Yes, stowage. It's an English word. "space for stowing something in"
Good reviews, at least for the few parts when he tries to actually articulate.
I should add..single handed
The bowl sink is criminally idiotic. It should not be rated.
I'm an Englishman but I still find this mans accent quite off!!
Philip Douglas there's no point in writing that
Would you prefer Jacob Rees-Mogg? Or perhaps 'Arfer' Daly (Minder). Ali G perhaps? Time for the nursing home for you, mate.
Dock jewelry, or boat porn?. Who has that kind of money?
What a confusing review...this is there, that is there, etc,etc etc...however, the camera is so close up to subject, you n ever shows where things are in relation to the whole of the boat!
Check out their website for details.
there is not true.
can someone borrow me 200 k?
It is not the ideal bluewater cruiser.
I want to be a billionaire. So fucking bad...
Around the world with mast on the deck? Give me fucking break.
He mumbles.
if you have to ask the price you generally cant afford it
terrible presentation
Rubbish comentary.
Rubbish comment. Beeson does the best boat reviews on youtube.