Blacksmithing - Mounting my 400 lb anvil
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- In this video I show how I mount my anvil to it's base to make it as silent as possible. I also answer some faq about my anvil and Kohlswa anvils in general.
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I liked the talking episode! You did great ;)
I believe you are required by Dad law to tap those straps and then say "That's not going anywhere"
yea, I'm familiar with this law 😂
like if you have real trouble fitting something into a car or a box or something, when you finally manage to get it to fit, the dad is obliged to say "like it was made for it!", "like a glove!" or "with room for a spare!"
No, I believe that law only applies definitively, if your son is standing a few meters away and looking nervously as if the anvil is suddenly going to jump sideways and land on his feet.
@@Gameboygenius na, it's definitely to be said every time you tighten a strap.
Forgot to mention, enjoyed hearing your voice. Your “Swedish version “ of English is probably more accurate than my “Aussie version “ of it !!!
Too right cobber :)
Ha ha.... but your's is much cooler, mate! I wish I could speak like David Attenborough, then anything would be interesting to listen to. :)
@@torbjornahman Not true. Your voice is quite unique and suits you. Also your pronunciation of the English word is very good. Stay the way you are. That is what we like about you.
@@torbjornahman "Nordic English" have more color to it. Stay your way, please.
Scandinavians are often easier to understand in English than native English speakers. Australians? Not so much.
Yes, extremely interesting! Perfect english too.
Thank you!
His English gets better and better in every video!
I only heard 3 slight mistakes which is WAY better than most Swedes who, in general, believe their English to be better than it actually is!
@@GregorShapiro Well,I'm a Brit living in Sweden and I would say that about a lot of Brits too.
Great video! While it strays from your usual "ASMR"/"Silent" style, I really do enjoy listening to someone tell a story about their tools - it almost felt like a mini-mini documentary about this anvil.
I feel that Torbjörn has the balance perfected. Mostly “asmr” but with a sprinkling of spoken content. Being an arborist, I am also a huge fan of the mini garden adventures.
I liked hearing you talk! You have a fun to listen to accent to my American ears. But do whatever makes you comfortable I'll keep watching!
Let's hear your Swedish accent!
@@moparlarsson yeah, his english is damn perfect with very very little accent, which is totally lovely and interesting, i myself talk like a mexican jejeje
You have one heaven of an anvil there. That's a dream anvil of many blacksmiths, myself included. Congratulations.
The fact that the company went out of business after 4 and a half centuries is kinda saddening
Indeed! I have tried a bit to find out where all the patterns went, but haven't been able to find out more.
I get your point and agree, but to be fair, if any business makes it 450 yrs-the emotional response could easily be pride instead of sadness.
It lived far past the life of the economy that supported it. Tough to make tools for trades that no longer exist at the level that demanded such tools. You can still buy a brand new farrier’s anvil though as a counter example.
@@torbjornahman Aren’t they still talking about MAYBE trying to restart the company? Or it might just be dreams that have been posted online... fingers crossed, cause I’d love to have a brand new one from them. A nice little 100kg A1 or A4
@@Qrunch I'm not so sure... lets hope it's true!
Re: repurposing scale - a potter who lives near me has asked that I save the scale for him to use in the making of custom glazes. Evidently iron oxide creates some interesting colors when blended with other glaze compounds. That seems like dark alchemy to me, but I’ll share a picture if he is successful.
Always enjoy seeing the activities in your shop and homestead. Have a wonderful summer!!
Cool! Yes, you're right. I haven't thought about that. I guess you would have to grind it to powder then...
Pistachio trees love those scales; moist them and mix with soil and feed the tree around the root.
@@torbjornahman My wife is an art teacher and she has a potters wheel and kiln at home in her workshop.
She would love maybe 0.5kg of your scale to grind up and use with glazes.
Please let me know if you would be willing to sell some.
Check out Sculpt Nuveau's products. Good stuff.
@@thecorbies Nice! Send me a message on IG/FB or my web page!
That's a really nice anvil that can and should be handed down from generation to generation! Thank you for taking time to film, edit, and post this video.
On the subject of forge scale, there actually is (was) a use for. I used to volunteer in the forge of the Batavialand historic ship wharf (Dutch museum where they are building ships using historic techniques) and one of the researches found a piece of text regarding using forge scale to make the wood more durable. No idea exactly how it was used as I left to go work somewhere else, but we were asked to keep the forge scale (at least the "clean" bits from the anvil, not from the floor) separate so they could be used to treat the wood with.
Hello Mr fabulous. regarding Batavialand historic ship wharf, I just moved to Leeuwarden and desparate to start blacksmithing again (my previous workshop is in UK). Do you by ANY CHANCE do of any blacksmithing workshops or know of any blacksmiths in Friesland or nearby? I know its a long shot but thought i would ask in case! thanks!
“Ironwood”, lol. We hav a species here in Ohio called Ironwood, as it sparks steel tools that cut it. High silica content.
You can also mix the scale with vinegar to make a stain for the wood.
A friend wanted our scale for home made linseed paint.
Basically her process was wash it.
While suspended in fluid magneticly separate it from dirt (or whatever wont stick to a magnet). Dried into cupcakes pan then ground to powder in a rock tumbler.
From there mixed into her secret blend of oils.
You Swedes has a long and proud tradition of making machines, engines and other industrial equipment of good quality, just like your anvil. And you are a good representative to bring this tradition further👍👍
Very interesting video. The story, old images of Swedish industry, ...
I like this "speaking format" very much.
You’re an Intelligent knowledgeable craftsman with much experience and wisdom. I enjoyed getting to know you a little better. Thank you
Don't be scared of talking to us. I like listening to you!
In the beginning of the video I thought that you would carve out a recess to put the anvil in and maybe fill it with a damping medium of some sort, so that it would be soundproofed from the sides as well.
A nice, tight, deep relief in the shape of the anvil base will do WONDERS...
Honestly mate, you speak better English than the locals here haha, love the accent, love the history, especially how to pronounce words in swedish, reminds me of The Post Apocalyptic Inventor explaining how to pronounce names in German :) Thank you for coming out of your comfort zone to teach all of us a thing or two, and loved those old photos!! Even Swedish factories had beautiful architecture :) Cheers!
Thank you for adding my shop sticker to your shop. I am honored sir.
The pleasure is mine, Robert! Thanks
This is the sexiest anvil on the internet - throughly researched.
I agree
I agree
I think so.
It is nice but I have to say I do like John's new one at Black Bear Forge! :-) I'm just envious as I don't have one of my own. Yet!
@@kirtodam6540 I think a double horn would be sweet.
Loved this. I think the one thing I do like about your channel is very little if any talking. You just get right to work. To many like to hear themselves talk I think. But like many I wish I had a shop as nice as yours. Thanks again.
This anvil is an art piece. If I had one of these, I'd sleep in the workshop. It is quite hard to see anvils here, let alone a Kohlswa, wich I've seen just once, and man, it feels like they are calling you to hammer some hot steel on them
I was told that you dampened your anvil by cutting the top of the block the anvil sits on into an anvil shaped pocket and filling the pocket with horse shit before replacing the anvil !
You did a pretty good job of that ! I was taught in metalworking class on an anvil that had a cast iron block supplied with it, now that was loud !
Always a fan! As someone who did some very minor smithing when I was younger in a rural area, but now lives in an area too urban to allow it, your videos always give me a peek inside what might have been.
Thanks!
You do such a great job, your are a true artist, GOD has gifted you in many ways. My wife is half Swedish and enjoys your work as well, if I was younger and in better health I would buy one of your tools to hang here. Great job and I will look forward to your next video.
Very kind, thanks!!
To quell the last bit of ring, inexpensively, and easily, you might try sticking welding magnets on the underside of the horn, and the tail. I couldn't believe the difference it made on my cheap little anvil. Nice piece, Mountain Bear!
I have already tried that... doesn't work on my anvil for some reason.
Hi Torbjorn! It was really good to have more info about your anvils. If you want get even further out of your confort zone, here in Argentina we use "YUNQUE" for anvils classic shape, and "BIGORNIA" for Norrlandsstad shape (This word is very difficutl for me!).
All the best,
Tomás
Interesting!
It was great to hear you talk about your anvil and (as always) great to see what's going on in your shop. Cheers from Texas!
Very interesting that the company goes back to the 16th century. The oldest companies I know are Beretta, Saint Goban and Hudson Bay Company. This company would be older than Saint Goban and HBC, very interesting to think or put into consideration that this company was around when the Cannon which were used at the Battle of the Alamo in San Antonio, Texas, in the 19th century, were being made, which cannon still survive today. Very cool indeed!
Black Bear Forge got his anvil dead quiet, I was surprised how well it turned out. Yours turned out very similar. He has his anvil pedestal buried in the ground also which helps, however doing that stops you from ever easily moving it. Isolating the wooden block from the floor with rubber will also reduce the resonance as well. You could experiment with an old piece if rubber backed carpet.
I saw that too
Yes he has the post buried and I think that would deaden the last bits here too... I will see if something under the wood helps!
The two ways to make things quiet are isolation and adding mass. You probably aren’t going to make the anvil heavier, but making the whole thing stiffer transfers more vibration into the floor which is like adding mass. But the wooden pedestal isn’t super stiff and only some frequencies are going through to the floor. So you can try to make the pedestal even stiffer and really fix it to the floor or (probably better) isolate the pedestal with sound deadening material. Could be as simple as putting the existing pedestal on a layer of sand in a sandbox. Wet or oily sand may work better. Or you could make something more serious by sandwiching mass loaded vinyl between sheets of plywood. Finally consider that the sound is echoing around the room, reflecting off surfaces, especially the flat concrete floor. You want it to be absorbed, not reflect off surfaces. Adding floor grating might help break up the reflected noise.
@@torbjornahman how about some rubber between the anvil and brackets?
@@marginatux No, I don't think that will do any good.
Thoroughly enjoyed this video. For me there is a fascination with anvil's as I'm sure it is with many people. Thanks for telling us the story about it.
Great, thanks!
Kohlswa anvils are beautiful, such clean and crisp lines, really brings out the beauty of the London pattern. A real shame they're no longer produced
"A bit out of your Comfort Zone"?? You inspire alot of people Torbjorn, including me. I made my own homemade forge from a video you posted. And it works great!! Wanted to say thank you for the idea!!
That's great! Thanks for letting me know!
@@torbjornahman thanks for the inspiration man!! Keep up the great work!! 😊😊
My parents used linseed oil for a lot of things. When I see you use it, I am often reminded of them.
You did a great job in reducing the noise of that anvil. Also, your command of the English language is very good. I wish there was more incentive for people in the US to learn and use multiple languages.
Thank you!
So true, but in usa we usually start in high school trying to learn other languages , way too late
You know, in all your videos that I have watched I have never really 'noticed' the anvil. It is a beauty. Thank you for the information. If I had known you were going to do this I would have asked you to record the 'ring' so that I could try and use it in some music. It is also great to hear your voice.
This is the first video I've heard this man's voice, and I was pleasantly surprised. Keep up the good work!
Hey! the Thunder Bear speaks! It's good to hear your voice my friend.
Thank you Torbjorn. I sincerely appreciate you sharing your work, skills and knowledge of this wonderful artform.
Greetings from Durban South Africa.
Very informative and well spoken! You have a nice and soothing voice to listen to and your english is impeccable ❤️
Your English is perfect my Swedish is like slag good for nothing . Stay safe happy trails.
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@@torbjornahman Your getting to intellectual with your answers Torbjon for this old fart of 78 who can barley type.
Good job Torbjorn. It's good to hear you speak.
Very nice video, Torbjorn. Thank you for sharing your words and humor I love my Kohlswa anvils. I did not know that the company went out of business. That's too bad.
Thank for the information on how to quiet an anvil. I also want to thank you for the background history on the anvil as well. Seeing the photographs of that time period always interests me. Also thank you for all your videos. I have found them very helpful in my shop.
Great! Thanks
My friend’s dad back in my hometown uses steel chains hanging down and around his anvil to reduce the “ringingness” of it. Might come useful.
Much love from Russia! Thank you for your great videos!
I have seen this too from a couple people. Glad someone else commented on it too.
Great to hear from you and appreciated the history.
It works for some, but not on this anvil... not sure why, maybe the size.
I like it when you explain what your doing.And I also like it when your show or put up on the screen what product your using that is so helpful
Thank you for the great video on such an iconic piece of history that is the anvil. I think we could give the anvil credit for being one of the most important tools ever made in building civilization. Personally I think you did a fantastic job mounting the anvil. It's now very quiet and should go a long way in helping the hearing out lol
Thanks! You're probably right, it was a very important tool!
You speak better English than most of my fellow Nova Scotians. Cool video. Very practical and useful.
May I suggest:
When creating a silicone-bed, it may be advantageous to place temporary wedges or shims under the anvil while the silicone is curing. This guarantees a certain minimum thickness of the rubber. In your case, the weight of the anvil probably squeezed away most of the silicone into the wood-gaps, making the silicone layer extremely thin. Then you have a hard-on-hard contact (steel on wood) and that would limit the sound-deadening effect from the rubber.
Of course, once the silicone has cured, the wedges or shims must be removed, otherwise you still have hard-on-hard(-on-hard) contact via the shims.
I don't think you need a layer at all... just contact over the entire surface.
@@torbjornahman I would agree if the damping is almost entirely derived from the wood.
If you are using the "loss tangent" of the rubber as an energy-absorption/dissipation mechanism, then a (controlled) thick-layer would be beneficial.
Nice one! I think that every modern man should have an anvil
Even far away from your comfort zone you delivered once more an instructive and well edited video, Thorbjörn! Really sorry that the Kohlswa Works no longer exist.
Even your english is perfect!
And thank you for not using your voice to annoyingly shouting "please subscribe / like / hit the bell button" like most other channels do.
Best blacksmithing channel on the tube!
BRAVO Thunder Bear! English is really good! Since Americans supposedly speak English......we have our own brand so you did a excellent job!
Beautiful kohlswa anvil! Soderfors and kohlswa are among the worlds best anvils. Nothing beats Swedish steel
hello. I am the lucky owner of two anvils.. The little 45 kg is from 1925 and remains flat. The largest, 160 kg, is about 200 years old and has a marked "cradle" on its surface. Many people advise me to plan it, but if I did, it would lose its identity and would become a different anvil because it would lost the visible samples of the people who used it before me .. I do not ask for advice but it is nice to hear the opinions and their reasoning of people interested in this noble art of blacksmithing. Greetings and thanks for your time and all your videos that inspire us.. greetings from Spain
Great! I wouldn't try to fix that. Learn how to use the surface to your advantage. It's good for straightening stuff for example.
Anvil, the unsung hero of history
No magnets or chain wrapped around it. Awesome clean look not a bunch of garb hanging all over the place. Love your method of silencing, i'm going to do mine that way too. Hope you don't mind if I copy you.
Great idea and the sound is so much quieter with a solid ‘muffle’. jc
You spoke! A lot! And it was awesome! Your channel among others inspired me to begin the craft.
Love from America!
Thanks!
Idag tog vi ett litet dopp i svensk metallurgihistoria. Det här är intressant! 👍
What a pleasant surprise to hear the silent steel smiter narrating this video. Thanks you TA
Thunderbear's Forge Scale and Coke Dust Rub: For when you've got to have the look, but don't have the time.
Here (Argentina) when we want to remove the noise from an anvil, we usually attach magnets to the side. During the blow of the hammer, the magnet separates a few tenths of a millimeter to reattach later. This causes a dissipation of the sonic energy. Greetings from Patagonia
Doesn't work for this one...
Thought for sure you'd get one of those Scandinavian "World's Strongest Men" to come help move it for you. 💪
Like the late great Jon Paul siggmason
Magnus VonMagnuson?
@Charles Brainard I'm a Scotsman and don't know what your talking about lol
@Charles Brainard I know exactly what you mean lol
I really appreciate your explanation of your anvil. I love your normal style of videos, but still it's nice to hear you too. I am English and your spoken English is faultless. I have many English friends I find it harder to understand than your accent. Thank you so much.
Very interesting. I’d be interested to hear about more of the history of your equipment.
beautiful anvil, sharp edges all around, well defined faces and the manufacturer name cast in.
This is relaxing, like a Norse bob ross
Please tell me about a craftsman you respect and admire, yet you don’t enjoy hearing about what they have to say... You do well out of your comfort zone, and it adds another level to what can be taken from and learned from your work. I rather enjoyed it, thanks!
Tusen takk Torbjørn for en nok fantastisk informativ video 😁
Neodymium magnets with a soft rubber or plastic coating (such as "Flex Seal", "Plasti-dip", or even RTV silicone) can help soften localized ringing. I had a nice 55kg anvil that I drilled+tapping some holes and squshed some hokey pucks to it, so the neighbors would be less annoyed by how loud my anvil would sing. It was a week after that, when I learned the magnet trick from an older Blacksmith, which helped cut down the remaining ringing from the horns.
Great. Magnets doesn't seem to work very well on this one...
@@torbjornahman That actually makes sense given the high mass (my experience had been with 100kg and under)
спасибо за видео!!! Удачи! очень нравится смотреть Ваши видео!
I lusted over Kohlswa anvils for my entire career and I ended up settling on the new Scott anvils. Likely not as good, but good enough and obtainable. Several of my friends have Kohlswa anvils that a fellow imported, but imported anvils had to be cut in half for shipping and then welded back together before sale here in North America. Anyway, beautiful anvils and I always have wanted an unmolested one.
More than just a little interesting, TA! Love the info.
Without a doubt some of the best blacksmithing content on youtube!!! Learn something new with every video no matter how many times I have watched them. If you are wanting to learn these skills, this content is a must!!
Thank you so much!
Heavy chain around the anvil and a magnet under its horn makes it even quieter.
Nope, not on this one... have tried a few things already.
I put those on and a lead plate under my Lokomo 50A. Bolted down firmly of course. Quite quiet now.
It's nice to learn a little history once in awhile.
Приветствую. Очень правильный подход! Наковальня это лицо кузнеца и должна стоять мертво и выглядеть идеально!!
great start mate, the horn is always going to ring more. Another trick is to put some strong magnets on the anvil which dampens the sound of it as well.
I can only dream of having an anvil like that.
It's 10:00 p.m., it's dark and it's raining. And what do I do after watching this video? Get into my rubber boots and my raincoat, pick a torchlight and go to the shed to see if there are markings on my anvil... And yes, there are: It's a PFP, german, age unknown, weight around 80-100kg. I never did care about any markings, but you made me think twice, look closer and take more care about the most important tool in the blacksmith's workshop. Thank you!
Great anvil!
Приятно смотреть за уходом инструмента....👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👋👋👋
Interesting to watch the anvil mount, hear the short history of Kohlswa and the story of your anvil, but by far the biggest highlight was hearing you speak.
Really, perfect English, but even if it wasn't, it's good to hear you add this personal touch. Thank you for going out of your comfort zone and sharing.
Cheers from Australia.👍
Спасибо, очень интересно!
Thanks, very interesting!
Hi thanks for this interesting video again. For me your silents videos are not reflect of a confort zone but a realy good and apreciable concept
ficou otimo faz mais videos assim :) fale mais vc si saiu muito bem , Sou Brasileiro porem entendi tudo
in previous video the anvil had a scratching sound, but now the anvil is no longer loud .Rebuilding was great,Thanks for beautiful video
Отличное видео про великолепную наковальню! Спасибо!
I carry a 60lbs Kolswa shoeing horses everyday. Love the video great job
RUclipsr AvE cast a base for his anvil in rubber, that should dampen the sound pretty good I think?
Until you drop red hot metal onto the rubber.
It was a two part epoxy resin he dyed black. Would work great to deaden the ring but that anvil is there forever now! Like was mentioned above, one hot bit of metal would melt it and smoke up real bad, too.
While it does kill the noise It also absorbs alot of the kinetic energy you want reflected back up through the anvil
@@johnnywoodbine9092 I think this is a theoretical question that might need to be addressed by some engineering students. I've been a blacksmith for well over a decade. I have tried solid mounting (anvil directly to solid stump), rubber mat, and silicone adhesive, and everything in between. Anything and everything to take the high frequency ring out of the equation. The silicone is the most effective to date. I have not found it to reduce the hammer's return. The rubber mat was actually the worst in that regard. Here's the point, when you're forging hot steel, you are deforming it, you are putting energy into changing its shape. An anvil may have a 995%+ return with a ball bearing but we don't hit the anvil with a hammer only. There is always something in the way that requires said energy to be deformed. I have had many close calls while forging and have missed or slightly missed the work piece and my hammer has returned violently and nearly hit my face. That experience dramatically demonstrates the energy that the hot steel steals.
Sorry for the long rambling reply.
@@glennwiebe5128 From a purely theoretical perspective, rubber should (and I'm glad you're agreeing) be the worst. I should add I have next to no forging experience, but at one time I was one of those engineering students you speak of. With anything soft and elastically deformable between the anvil and it's base, you effectively have a sprung object, like a car. Much like with cars, if you increase the stiffness of the springs, or if you reduce the length of the springs, you reduce the travel after a given impact or load is applied. Using in this case what is now probably 1-2mm of silicone at the thickest, is a fairly short travel spring, and so will allow the anvil to move far less. In this way a thin layer of silicone is like a track car, and a thick rubber mat is like a trophy truck. They both absorb some impact, but a very different amount.
If your end goal is to get 100% return from a bearing drop test, you need 2 things. 1 - for the surface to fully resist any deformation, and 2 - for the anvil to resist movement after the impact. Number one you'd implement by buying a good anvil with a hard top surface. Number two you'd implement by having the heaviest anvil possible, or having it attached as securely as possible to the biggest heavy thing you can find (the earth). In an ideal, and completely unrealistic scenario, a very overengineered steel grillages cast into a lot of concrete would be best for this, but to have any sound deadening, you need to sacrifice a little bit of the energy input!
TL:DR, sound deadening costs whacking efficiency.
More words were spoken in this video than all previous TA videos combined. Nice work!
I could not translate the mass, but it is clear that a good anvil, a way to get rid of ringing is interesting! I will keep in mind)))
400 lbs = 182kg
@@JustinTopp It's literally cast into the side at 11:54
@@JustinTopp Thank you
@@jimurrata6785 Without knowing the language, even familiar words are incomprehensible because of the dialect, it is very difficult to understand which numbers mean what! Thanks.
@@user-sw8lh8cf7c Your reply in english is quite good!
I meant no criticism. Only to show you where the mass was pointed out.
I'm from Sheffield UK, we have a site called Abbeydale Industrial Hamlet. The tilt forge and hand forges there were built in 1785, though steel has been made at that location since the 1450s. The factory used to buy wrought iron from Sweden to produce the recently developed crucible steel.... I'm going to look in the old ledgers next time I'm on site and see if I can find any mention of where exactly in Sweden they bought the Iron.
Great content as always.
Great info. Yes considerable amounts of wrought iron was exported to Britain from various iron works here in Sweden.
Kolsva is not far from where I grew up. Every little town there was in some way part of the steel industry.
Världens i särklass bästa svarvar kom från Köping, som då också borde vara dina hemtrakter.
Jag har tre. S8-S10-S14. Finfint Svenskt stål.
Skål från Småland,, 🍻😎👍!
Svensk industrihistoria är fascinerade 👍🏻
It was nice to have a talkie. Talk, don't talk, you always do the best work I've seen.
That's a sweet anvil, my youngest daughter recently moved to Finland, maybe she can find and post me one :-P
Sounds like a great idea!
Torbjorn, your English is perfect and you present yourself very well. You have nothing to worry for. Thank you for sharing; it is a beautiful piece of steel.
Thunder Bear didn't just dead lift that anvil off the post? What is the world coming to?
Good video, you definitely have a beautiful anvil and you definitely made it a lot quieter. Nice to hear you talk again. 👍
Звенит так, что и сыграть можно запросто на ней..
your videos as well as your voice are always enjoyable and relaxing. I love your anvils. I hope to have one close the size of your 400 someday
Thanks